Episode 945 - Jo Koy

Episode 945 • Released August 26, 2018 • Speakers detected

00:00:00Marc:all right let's do this how are you what the fuckers what the fuck buddies what the fucksters what's happening uh i'm mark maron this is my podcast wtf i'm a little punchy i'm a little tired i was up late last night i'm actually recording this a couple days shy i'm

00:00:26Marc:of when it's supposed to to go out so again if anything dramatic or awful oh okay why don't I just rephrase that so all the shit that's dramatic and awful that's going to happen in the next couple of days I might not have a reaction to it I don't necessarily always have a reaction to it publicly anyways but but if it's uh if it gets real bad just know that uh this might be happening in a two-day vacuum all right that's all I'm saying like if I should be here saying like oh god this is it

00:00:54Marc:We all knew this day would come.

00:00:55Guest:I don't even know if we can get this up.

00:00:58Guest:I don't even know if the grid is working anymore.

00:01:00Guest:I don't even know.

00:01:01Guest:Oh God, I knew this would happen.

00:01:04Guest:Oh God, I got to go.

00:01:05Guest:I got to go.

00:01:06Guest:They're here.

00:01:07Guest:They're here.

00:01:08Guest:Oh my God.

00:01:09Guest:I'm going to go in the attic.

00:01:12Marc:If that happens, I might have missed it.

00:01:15Marc:But let's hope it doesn't get that bad.

00:01:18Marc:Anyway, Joe Coy is on the show today.

00:01:21Marc:Joe Coy is a comic.

00:01:22Marc:He's been around for a bit of time.

00:01:25Marc:I've known of him.

00:01:26Marc:I knew he was out there.

00:01:27Marc:I knew he was big.

00:01:28Marc:I didn't know him.

00:01:30Marc:I don't even think I had met him really.

00:01:32Marc:Maybe once we discuss it.

00:01:35Marc:Uh, and, uh, and, but I, I just, I ran into a Montreal and I'm like, all right, I'd, I'd like to talk to you.

00:01:41Marc:I'd like to know your story.

00:01:42Marc:So Joe Coy is here.

00:01:44Marc:Joe Coy is a big act.

00:01:46Marc:He's a big act.

00:01:48Marc:He's currently on his break the mold world tour through the end of the year.

00:01:51Marc:And, uh, he, he puts it out there folks.

00:01:56Marc:Yeah.

00:01:56Marc:He's a worker.

00:01:58Marc:So I was in Chicago all week.

00:02:00Marc:I've talked to you when I was there, but I just left there.

00:02:03Marc:Uh,

00:02:03Marc:Last night, I shot until 2.30 in the morning.

00:02:07Marc:As you know, we're shooting, I think it is the final episode of Joe Swanberg's Easy.

00:02:13Marc:And it was my third time doing the show as the same character.

00:02:18Marc:We take Jacob Malko, a comic book artist, graphic novelist, and put him through the mill again.

00:02:26Marc:I grew my beard out for it.

00:02:27Marc:Me and Jane Addams is there.

00:02:30Marc:and Melanie Linsky came out, literally flew out for one scene to Chicago, and there was a lot hanging in the balance of that scene, and this is all improv, and I love Melanie Linsky, and I love Jane Addams.

00:02:42Marc:I'm working with two of the best actresses around, and I'm nervous, but we're improvising in these characters and moving through the emotions, and...

00:02:52Marc:It was pretty good.

00:02:54Marc:It was pretty harrowing.

00:02:58Marc:Jacob goes down a bit this season.

00:03:01Marc:But it was exciting.

00:03:02Marc:But nonetheless, shot till 2.30.

00:03:05Marc:Got back to the hotel at 3.

00:03:07Marc:Had to get a car at 6.45.

00:03:09Marc:So got about two and a half hours.

00:03:11Marc:Threw all my shit into a bag.

00:03:13Marc:And here I am.

00:03:15Marc:So look.

00:03:16Marc:Buying tickets to shows.

00:03:19Marc:You're smart people.

00:03:21Marc:But go to the site of the show.

00:03:24Marc:Do that before you just Google Marc Maron tickets wherever.

00:03:28Marc:Because you're going to get those scalper sites.

00:03:30Marc:Now all of a sudden I get tweets and emails from people going like, why does it cost $900 to get tickets to your show?

00:03:37Marc:Oh, because you didn't go to the site of the venue or the site of the festival or the appropriate site for the show that you're speaking of.

00:03:44Marc:You went right to a scalper and there's tickets left.

00:03:46Marc:So just be aware, man.

00:03:50Marc:Anyway...

00:03:52Marc:The thing I wanted to clear up on the Shooter Jennings episode, okay, I get it.

00:03:57Marc:I said John Glenn instead of Scott Glenn.

00:04:00Marc:Scott Glenn was the guy in Urban Cowboy with the tequila and the worm in his teeth.

00:04:06Marc:John Glenn was an astronaut.

00:04:08Marc:Oddly, Scott Glenn was in the right stuff with Ed Harris playing John Glenn.

00:04:13Marc:But, you know, let's not play these games.

00:04:14Marc:I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

00:04:16Marc:It doesn't mean anything.

00:04:17Marc:It's just a fucking coincidence.

00:04:19Marc:You can connect the dots to almost anything, right?

00:04:21Marc:So John Glenn, played by Ed Harris, was in The Right Stuff with Scott Glenn, which was about the space race, which involved the Russians and Jeff Goldblum, who is a Jew and still is a Jew.

00:04:35Marc:But he was working for the government and the Russians got a rocket up first.

00:04:40Marc:And that's why they didn't have anything to do with election tampering.

00:04:46Marc:See how easy it is to do that?

00:04:49Marc:See, that's their currency.

00:04:50Marc:That's how it works.

00:04:51Marc:There might be one doofus right-wing guy out there going, that makes sense.

00:04:55Marc:I got to watch that movie again because, you know, make America great again, right?

00:05:01Marc:So anyways, cleared that up.

00:05:03Marc:It was an old man's mistake, and I did it twice apparently.

00:05:07Marc:Uh, what is the other thing I want to clear up?

00:05:10Marc:Oh yes.

00:05:10Marc:I wanted to read this email because this seems a relatively, uh, a learning moment for all of us from the Tanya Donnelly episode.

00:05:19Marc:I received an email midwife versus doula.

00:05:22Marc:So glad you explored Tanya's doula adventure.

00:05:24Marc:Just want to make a friendly addition to your birth movement data bank.

00:05:28Marc:Uh,

00:05:28Marc:thank you because uh that oddly that one is not filled up mark asked if the doula thing was new and then stated that maybe doula is now what a midwife used to be just as a clarification midwives are still around i happen to be one midwives are the actual health care providers who catch the baby doulas are birth assistants

00:05:50Marc:who support women during labor, birth, and postpartum, but they are not health care providers, and they do not catch babies.

00:05:58Marc:Again, thanks for taking the time to explore this with her.

00:06:01Marc:We birth workers always love to hear our work being discussed.

00:06:04Marc:Kate in San Antonio, thank you, Kate, for that clarification, and thank you for catching those babies out there.

00:06:12Marc:Got to be out there.

00:06:13Marc:Someone's got to be out there catching the babies.

00:06:15Marc:Okay, so Lou Malnati.

00:06:19Marc:Lou Malnati's pizza.

00:06:20Marc:I do this every time I fucking go to Chicago.

00:06:23Marc:I got no regrets about it.

00:06:25Marc:And here's the interesting thing.

00:06:26Marc:Now, you guys have been with me a long time.

00:06:28Marc:You've heard me talk to a lot of people.

00:06:30Marc:And a lot of times we get along great.

00:06:32Marc:And that's it.

00:06:33Marc:That's the only time I talk to those people.

00:06:36Marc:I'm not spending time with them.

00:06:38Marc:Occasionally I run into them.

00:06:39Marc:And I don't even know if they necessarily remember we talked or if it had any impact whatsoever.

00:06:43Marc:Usually it does.

00:06:45Marc:But I think you can also notice when I really get along with somebody out of nowhere, and you might assume that we've met before, but we haven't.

00:06:52Marc:Good examples of this, I think, would be Josh Brolin recently, David Harbour, and Tracy Letts.

00:07:00Marc:These are all people whose work I enjoy.

00:07:03Marc:But what are you going to do?

00:07:05Marc:I don't even have Josh Brolin's email address.

00:07:07Marc:I don't have his phone number.

00:07:08Marc:I got nothing.

00:07:09Marc:I felt like, hey, we could be friends.

00:07:10Marc:But then I really thought it through.

00:07:12Marc:I mean, can we?

00:07:13Marc:What, am I going to go out to the ranch and hang around?

00:07:16Marc:Like, I don't know.

00:07:18Marc:Maybe we could.

00:07:19Marc:I mean, we got along good, but I wouldn't take the first step there to hang out.

00:07:24Marc:And also, as you get older, it gets harder, man.

00:07:26Marc:It's weird to make friends.

00:07:28Marc:And I've only got maybe...

00:07:30Marc:how many do i have left i got a few friends but i haven't rotated them out and some of them i don't talk to very often some of them are mad at me because i don't talk to them and it's just you get busy and you just you got those two or three friends man

00:07:45Marc:You better keep water in that garden.

00:07:48Marc:But anyway, I'm in Chicago and Tracy Letts lives in Chicago.

00:07:53Marc:I'm a big fan of Tracy Letts, genius playwright, great actor.

00:07:57Marc:Just, I don't know, man.

00:07:59Marc:If you listen to it, we got along.

00:08:01Marc:So I figure, what the fuck?

00:08:03Marc:I'll text him.

00:08:03Marc:I'll tell him I'm in town.

00:08:05Marc:He texted me.

00:08:06Marc:He said, yeah, let's do it.

00:08:06Marc:So we went.

00:08:09Marc:Me and Tracy Letts went to Lou Malnati's and had a deep dish.

00:08:16Marc:Though he initially was not, you know, I said, do you eat the pizza?

00:08:19Marc:He goes, no, I don't eat it.

00:08:21Marc:I live here.

00:08:22Marc:That's tourist stuff, that deep dish.

00:08:23Marc:But I want you to have a good time.

00:08:24Marc:And I'm like, how do you never eat it?

00:08:26Marc:And I've been once a year...

00:08:28Marc:Twice a year, you know, it's tourist stuff.

00:08:29Marc:It's like, but it's fucking Lou Malnati's like the butter crust.

00:08:33Marc:I mean, come on.

00:08:34Marc:I mean, you know, other people have other opinions, but you're not even telling me that you have another opinion about another place.

00:08:40Marc:You're just like, you know, writing the whole thing off as some sort of ride at the Chicago amusement park.

00:08:46Marc:But we go, man.

00:08:47Marc:We went and we had it.

00:08:51Marc:Had the Lou Malnati salad and then the deep dish classic with sausage and cheese for two people.

00:08:58Marc:And constant refills of Diet Coke and iced tea.

00:09:02Marc:And we talked for like two hours, a couple hours and change.

00:09:06Marc:Had a great time.

00:09:07Marc:And it was fucking amazing pizza.

00:09:09Marc:He enjoyed the pizza.

00:09:10Marc:I don't know if he'll go back again.

00:09:12Marc:But what was interesting is we're sitting there

00:09:15Marc:And I got recognized like two or three times, like right off the bat, like maybe even four or five times.

00:09:20Marc:And I'm not, look, I'm not bragging.

00:09:23Marc:But it was sort of interesting because he'd get recognized like once or twice sitting at the table.

00:09:27Marc:Then one guy came up and recognized him.

00:09:29Marc:And that was the third time.

00:09:30Marc:And then the guy looked at me and goes like, oh shit, you're that guy from the other thing.

00:09:33Marc:And that was, it was exciting.

00:09:35Marc:But I started, I feel bad because I thought that my count was higher.

00:09:39Marc:So I told him maybe we should just hang out until it evens out and then go.

00:09:43Marc:And we had a laugh.

00:09:46Marc:I guess why I'm telling you this is because sometimes I do become friends with the people I talk to.

00:09:55Marc:Most of the time, it's just a good talk.

00:09:58Marc:That's all I'm saying.

00:09:59Marc:I had a good time in Chicago.

00:10:01Marc:Thank you for asking.

00:10:02Marc:Joe Coy, like I said, I met him in Montreal.

00:10:06Marc:It was interesting this interview because...

00:10:09Marc:I saw him in Montreal, and he got an award for the best comedian of the year, I think.

00:10:14Marc:He got choked up about it, about his past, about working with Tiffany Haddish at the Laugh Factory, starting out and stuff.

00:10:21Marc:And he was very emotional.

00:10:23Marc:Everyone got a little emotional.

00:10:25Marc:I got a little emotional, but that happens.

00:10:28Marc:But everyone was a little emotional in accepting their awards or giving awards.

00:10:31Marc:It was sort of an emotional night for some reason.

00:10:33Marc:He got emotional, Joe Coy did.

00:10:35Marc:And then we do this interview, and he's talking about his brother.

00:10:38Marc:And it's a very difficult story, what he went through with his older brother.

00:10:41Marc:It's difficult.

00:10:42Marc:And it's a bit harrowing and sad.

00:10:44Marc:And while we were talking...

00:10:49Marc:Yeah, I noticed he was sort of like flat toned about it.

00:10:53Marc:You know, it felt like I've been talking to people a long time in here and I thought, you know, maybe maybe like there was sort of like it wasn't that the emotion wasn't connected to him talking about his brother, which was a sad and tragic bit of business.

00:11:07Marc:And I didn't I didn't say anything like, you know, what are you sociopath?

00:11:10Marc:What's happening?

00:11:12Marc:But I did notice it and I didn't say anything after either.

00:11:15Marc:But he told me it's like he said like that stuff about my brother's heavy.

00:11:19Marc:I know it's heavy and I usually get really emotional about it.

00:11:22Marc:But today I was just sort of like, I'm not going to do it.

00:11:25Marc:I'm not I'm not going to get emotional about it.

00:11:27Marc:And I'm like, I noticed that.

00:11:29Marc:And of all the shows, you're not going to get emotional about it.

00:11:32Marc:You chose this one to see if you had the metal to not engage emotionally with the sad story.

00:11:40Marc:All right.

00:11:41Marc:Okay.

00:11:42Marc:But it was a lovely chat.

00:11:45Marc:And again, Joe Coy is currently on his Break the Mold World Tour through the end of the year.

00:11:51Marc:And this is me talking to Joe Coy.

00:11:54Joe Coy.

00:11:55Marc:I got to turn this air off.

00:11:58Marc:If it gets hot, I'll turn it back on.

00:12:00Marc:Perfect.

00:12:01Marc:You can take it.

00:12:02Marc:No, I'm the guy that hates AC.

00:12:04Marc:So you're against air conditioner in general?

00:12:06Guest:I'm from, I lived in Vegas.

00:12:08Guest:I'm from Seattle originally.

00:12:10Guest:As a policy, you're an anti-AC guy.

00:12:13Guest:Anti-AC.

00:12:14Guest:Because the minute I moved, because I went from Seattle to Vegas, and when I moved to Vegas, I fell in love with that heat.

00:12:20Guest:My allergies went away.

00:12:21Guest:Oh, yeah?

00:12:21Guest:Just everything.

00:12:22Guest:I kind of like it too, and you feel kind of high all the time.

00:12:24Guest:Yeah.

00:12:24Guest:It's weird.

00:12:25Guest:You feel, I don't know, I feel energized.

00:12:27Guest:Yeah.

00:12:27Guest:When that sun hits your skin, I'm like, let's go.

00:12:30Guest:Oh, really?

00:12:30Guest:Yes.

00:12:30Marc:I'm more like sort of like, oh, let's just slow down.

00:12:34Guest:You want to slow down with the sun?

00:12:35Marc:Yeah, I just want to like, when I go to Phoenix where my brother's from, it's 116.

00:12:39Marc:Yeah, let's just stay in.

00:12:41Marc:No, I'm outside.

00:12:42Marc:I'm like, this is great, but I'm like, I'm just going to enjoy it.

00:12:45Marc:Because you dehydrate so quickly that your body's just sort of knocked out.

00:12:50Marc:Yeah.

00:12:51Marc:And I'm sober, so I like getting a freebie.

00:12:53Marc:Yeah.

00:12:53Marc:So I'll just...

00:12:54Marc:Free high from the sun.

00:12:56Marc:Exactly.

00:12:57Marc:Yeah.

00:12:58Marc:But the weird thing with you, in terms of my knowledge of things, I've always known you were out there.

00:13:04Marc:Yeah.

00:13:06Marc:I know Joe Coy's out there somewhere, and I don't know exactly how he's doing or what he does completely, but I know he's a big comic, and he's just sort of out there.

00:13:17Marc:I know the name.

00:13:18Marc:I know he's popular.

00:13:19Marc:But I'm like, who is that guy?

00:13:22Marc:Yeah.

00:13:23Marc:Yeah.

00:13:23Marc:And like that was always my thing in terms of like knowing you were out there and I think we've run into each other over the years.

00:13:29Marc:Yeah.

00:13:29Marc:But we never worked together really, did we?

00:13:31Marc:Never, no.

00:13:32Marc:Because like, I think, I don't know, I was already headlining, you were already headlining and we just missed each other somehow.

00:13:37Marc:I guess.

00:13:38Marc:I mean, you were already big in the game.

00:13:41Marc:I'm not big.

00:13:42Marc:I mean, I was known.

00:13:44Marc:I don't know.

00:13:44Marc:I think you're probably bigger than me pretty quickly.

00:13:47Marc:Yeah.

00:13:47Marc:That's my feeling.

00:13:48Guest:It took me a while.

00:13:49Guest:Yeah.

00:13:50Guest:I mean, Nordstrom Rack doing The Tonight Show.

00:13:54Guest:You went to Nordstrom Rack?

00:13:55Guest:No, I was working there the day of.

00:13:59Guest:Yeah.

00:13:59Guest:And this is when Jay was there, and you didn't know how big The Tonight Show was until I got off the next day, and I'm working, and every other customer was like, oh, my God, you were so funny last night.

00:14:11Guest:Oh.

00:14:11Guest:Can I get this in a size nine?

00:14:12Guest:Yeah, yeah.

00:14:13Guest:It just brought you back down.

00:14:15Guest:Do you have these in a 10?

00:14:16Guest:Yeah.

00:14:16Guest:Do you have this in a narrow?

00:14:17Guest:That's so funny.

00:14:18Marc:You don't want to talk about my set?

00:14:20Marc:No, no.

00:14:20Marc:But it's a fundamental lack of respect that people have for comics.

00:14:23Marc:They're just sort of like, oh, nice little thing you did.

00:14:25Marc:Yeah.

00:14:26Marc:But I'm here to get a shirt.

00:14:27Marc:Yeah, if you don't mind.

00:14:29Marc:Not the sort of like, you know, why aren't you out there?

00:14:32Marc:No.

00:14:32Marc:Care less.

00:14:33Marc:They don't care.

00:14:34Marc:Care less.

00:14:34Marc:They think anyone can do it.

00:14:35Guest:Yeah.

00:14:35Guest:I fucking hate that.

00:14:36Guest:I fucking hate it too, Mark.

00:14:38Guest:And I'm glad you said that.

00:14:40Guest:I'm so sick of someone coming up to me and like, yeah, there's this guy at the office.

00:14:44Guest:He's doing comedy too.

00:14:45Guest:I don't give a fuck.

00:14:45Marc:fuck yeah yeah he's he does it on office night he's hysterical during lunch i don't give a fuck i know this is two different things i know but you don't say that to him no i'm like oh cool like yeah best of luck to him yeah i hope it works out for him yeah yeah yeah it's really easy tell him how easy it oh yeah go to elko nevada for a night but we're like we're like i didn't know like i knew that you were uh filipino yeah half

00:15:12Guest:i get it yeah half but i i bet i knew that you played this is a thing i think in my head is i thought you were an ethnic act fundamentally a lot of people did yeah but i it was so funny because when i first started i i chose not to play the asian card for like the first 10 years yeah because i already knew i had that in the bag oh really yeah i'm like i can do that all day might as well build the

00:15:34Guest:audience and then really yeah i mean i'm not gonna hone a crap that i already have right my mom is my my my go-to joke yeah my whole life yeah i'm not gonna like i already knew i had that so when i first started i was going after like you know you know i was so inspired by you know def jam and eddie murphy and richard prior that was your thing i got on the def comedy jam tour well let's go back so like you were your what your mom's filipino my mom's filipino my dad's white

00:15:59Marc:He's white.

00:16:00Marc:Yeah.

00:16:00Marc:Regular white.

00:16:00Marc:Air Force.

00:16:01Marc:Air Force white.

00:16:02Guest:The specific type of white.

00:16:04Guest:That's the white.

00:16:05Guest:Air Force white.

00:16:06Guest:That's the white that brought half-breeds to America.

00:16:09Marc:Yeah, of course.

00:16:10Marc:They went shopping overseas.

00:16:11Guest:Yes!

00:16:12Guest:I always say this on stage, Mark.

00:16:15Guest:The armed forces is like the original Tinder.

00:16:18Guest:You know what I mean?

00:16:19Guest:Yeah.

00:16:19Guest:a lot of soldiers were like you know what that curious swipe left i'm going to the philippines for asian fetish yeah but no disrespect to my mom and dad you know what i mean hey that was that was the time it happened you have to put yourself in that time people don't get it so all right so where did it was your dad in war yeah my dad was in the vietnam war yeah oh really he was part of that yeah he's flying uh no he was loading my dad my dad had an obsession with cargo planes it's the weirdest obsession he was loading cargo

00:16:44Marc:He loved it.

00:16:45Guest:He fucking loved it.

00:16:47Guest:So he was probably loading bodies.

00:16:48Guest:No, well, mostly, he loaded the commissary.

00:16:54Guest:Oh.

00:16:55Guest:So the food, the tanks.

00:16:56Marc:So he wasn't really in the line of fire, necessarily.

00:16:58Guest:Well, I mean, they- Depend what base he was on.

00:17:01Guest:Yeah, it depends on what base, but the-

00:17:02Guest:The cool thing is I always ask my dad because he always told me he goes, I love cargo planes.

00:17:07Guest:Yeah.

00:17:07Guest:And I always go, dad, you're full of shit.

00:17:08Guest:You didn't get a fighter pilot's license and you want to work near planes.

00:17:12Guest:Yeah.

00:17:12Guest:Like I was just being a dick when you're a kid until I met his dad and his dad was like, no, that's all he loved.

00:17:19Guest:He would build cargo planes like the model planes.

00:17:21Guest:He'd always buy the big ones.

00:17:22Guest:My dad had this obsession on he didn't understand how a plane could get a tank.

00:17:26Guest:to another place oh so he's just fascinated he's fascinated by that and he became the loader he was he was a master sergeant he was he loaded the plane loaded the plane and he's good at it he's a fucking packer man he's good and i got that skill set from him yeah yeah i'm not joking you can pack a truck you gotta move bro when they pick our bags up at the airport and i see him just tossing shit on top i'm like just get the go start the fucking car yeah yeah let me let me load this

00:17:52Marc:Or when you see the bags on those carts before they put them on the plane.

00:17:56Guest:Yes.

00:17:56Guest:What the fucking mess?

00:17:57Guest:What the fuck are you guys doing?

00:17:59Marc:Yeah, go on.

00:17:59Marc:I can show you your tricks.

00:18:00Marc:Get the big square ones first.

00:18:01Marc:Put them at the bottom.

00:18:03Marc:So that's sort of an interesting fascination that he just couldn't get it out of his head that they could fly tanks.

00:18:09Marc:So he was fascinated.

00:18:10Guest:Very fascinated.

00:18:11Guest:But it's so hard because I try and explain to these kids today, especially my son, they get to see everything on the internet and it's that fast.

00:18:18Guest:Whereas my dad, it's like...

00:18:20Guest:these planes just got built yeah he had to buy a model he had to buy a model did your kids ever put a model together yeah i used to build not my son never put them are you kidding me they don't do that you get one that can fly i have a goddamn camera the one like glue and paint for dad that's true drone this one this one spies on people dad the are you talking about uh you gotta do that in your act

00:18:44Guest:It's so true, right?

00:18:46Marc:Yeah, it is true.

00:18:47Marc:It's so true.

00:18:48Marc:But these kids are so spoiled.

00:18:49Marc:I didn't love models.

00:18:50Marc:I don't think I ever got to the point where I actually took the time to paint one, but I put a few together.

00:18:55Guest:I put a few together.

00:18:56Guest:But there were those dudes that would do the paint.

00:18:58Guest:Paint my dad.

00:18:59Guest:Oh, he did it?

00:18:59Guest:Yeah, paint them first, son.

00:19:01Guest:Paint them on the rack.

00:19:01Guest:Right.

00:19:03Fuck.

00:19:04Guest:I put together a green plane.

00:19:05Guest:That's all I had.

00:19:06Guest:That's it.

00:19:06Guest:With a green pilot.

00:19:08Guest:Give a fuck.

00:19:09Guest:I'm not painting this gray thing.

00:19:11Marc:And you still had one piece, and you're like, oh, fuck.

00:19:13Marc:Where's that one go?

00:19:14Guest:So how many brothers and sisters do you have?

00:19:17Guest:Man, it's pretty big.

00:19:20Guest:Really?

00:19:20Guest:Well, it's big because it's...

00:19:22Guest:I'm the only one that came from my mom and dad.

00:19:25Guest:So I'm the only half-breed.

00:19:26Guest:My mom already came with kids.

00:19:28Guest:Oh, really?

00:19:29Guest:Yeah.

00:19:29Guest:From the Philippines?

00:19:30Guest:Yeah.

00:19:30Guest:How many?

00:19:31Guest:She had my sister and my brother, Robert and Rowena.

00:19:34Guest:Yeah.

00:19:36Guest:And then we adopted another one who's, you know, she runs my business.

00:19:40Guest:Where's she from?

00:19:41Guest:She's from the Philippines.

00:19:42Guest:You adopted a Filipino?

00:19:43Guest:Yeah.

00:19:44Guest:Yeah.

00:19:44Guest:And your dad had some?

00:19:46Guest:Nope.

00:19:46Marc:Oh, so there's four.

00:19:47Guest:He had four.

00:19:48Guest:He had one, and then the three were like a fucking bonus that he didn't know about.

00:19:51Guest:They just came with the package?

00:19:53Marc:Yeah.

00:19:54Marc:Was that a surprise package?

00:19:55Marc:Oh, by the way, as they were leaving, I forgot to tell you something.

00:19:58Guest:Ah, by the way, there's two more.

00:20:01Guest:And we're also getting one more.

00:20:04Guest:Sorry about that.

00:20:06Guest:You know, I shit on my dad a lot, and I don't talk about my dad a lot on stage, because he did get a divorce when I was like 9, 10.

00:20:14Guest:So when he left, it was partially...

00:20:17Guest:This is a story I figured out on my own, but it's partially due to racism.

00:20:21Guest:He came back from the war with a family.

00:20:26Guest:He's from Buffalo, New York.

00:20:27Guest:But how did he meet your mom?

00:20:29Guest:Vietnam.

00:20:29Guest:But they were overseas.

00:20:31Guest:She was in Vietnam?

00:20:33Guest:Yeah, so they would do this thing where they hire entertainment out there, and she was part of that.

00:20:40Guest:She was part of that package, the bands and stuff that go out there.

00:20:42Marc:What part of the package was she?

00:20:44Marc:no it's dancer i guess dancing package you didn't ask me let's go she's dancing was she playing something they were part of like a group that okay okay so yeah let's let's get into that okay i'm so curious you never asked like what exactly what kind of entertainment was it

00:21:01Guest:Yeah, my dad told me, and it was part of that whole, like they always had entertainers come over and sing.

00:21:06Guest:Oh, there's a lot of them.

00:21:07Guest:The Filipinos are amazing singers.

00:21:08Guest:That's why my sister's a singer.

00:21:10Guest:Isn't a singer from Journey Filipino?

00:21:12Guest:Journey, yeah.

00:21:13Guest:That's our thing, man.

00:21:15Guest:We're great for like...

00:21:17Guest:What is it called when you imitate a song?

00:21:20Guest:Cover bands.

00:21:21Guest:Notorious for cover bands.

00:21:23Guest:People love that guy from Journey.

00:21:26Guest:Arnel Panetta, man.

00:21:27Guest:You know him?

00:21:28Guest:I met him twice.

00:21:29Guest:He's a Filipino guy?

00:21:30Guest:He's about 4'8".

00:21:31Marc:Yeah, he just sings the shit out of those Journey songs.

00:21:33Guest:And he runs.

00:21:35Marc:What do you mean he runs around?

00:21:36Guest:He runs around the stage?

00:21:39Guest:Yeah.

00:21:40Guest:And he's running a mile a minute, man.

00:21:41Guest:And it's pretty impressive to see someone that can hold a note, especially that range.

00:21:47Guest:Yeah.

00:21:48Guest:That's basically my introduction into entertainment because my mom...

00:21:52Guest:when she came to the stage when they divorced you know i say this on stage i'm sorry i'm not trying to do shit that i do on stage but what i say is you know before facebook and myspace yeah and instagram you know we're talking about 71 72 73 my mom had to find other filipinos right to associate with her she had to build a community man she was walking up to mexicans filipino she didn't fucking know you know what i mean she started a clubhouse

00:22:17Guest:She started like a small group of Filipinos.

00:22:21Guest:And it was a group.

00:22:23Guest:They called themselves the Filipino American Association.

00:22:25Guest:Where?

00:22:26Guest:It was in Tacoma, Washington.

00:22:27Guest:So your dad came back and moved.

00:22:29Guest:He was stationed in Tacoma?

00:22:31Guest:Yeah, we went everywhere.

00:22:32Guest:Masawa, Japan.

00:22:33Guest:It was military.

00:22:34Guest:So every three years, we're moving.

00:22:36Marc:In your memory, what do you remember?

00:22:38Marc:Which one?

00:22:39Guest:Ah...

00:22:40Guest:Man, Tacoma is what I always go to.

00:22:42Marc:So he ended up in Tacoma.

00:22:44Guest:Philippines was also good, too.

00:22:45Guest:I remember the Philippines.

00:22:46Guest:Oh, yeah.

00:22:47Guest:Not too much, but I was there for six years.

00:22:49Marc:But, okay, so you're in Tacoma, and that's when you remember growing up?

00:22:53Marc:How old were you when you started growing up?

00:22:55Guest:That is, like, it's so funny because that's, like, the time of my life where it just started to, like...

00:23:01Guest:everything fell apart you know i mean our family fell apart when you're like nine yeah i was like 10 10 10 yeah and you were in you were in the philippines you've been to japan but you don't remember it don't remember and now you're i don't remember st louis now you're up in the woods now we're now we're in the pacific northwest cold fucking i'm sorry if i'm cursing it's all right go ahead just cold raining all the time depressing yeah it's heavy up there uh

00:23:25Guest:My brother, he's dealing with... That's when we find out that it's severe schizophrenia.

00:23:32Guest:Oh, really?

00:23:33Guest:Yeah.

00:23:34Guest:It got bad in St.

00:23:35Guest:Louis and then it... How old was he when it hit?

00:23:38Guest:Oh, man.

00:23:38Guest:It hit right away.

00:23:39Guest:That's why I was trying to tell you that I understand why my dad left.

00:23:44Guest:He's a great guy.

00:23:45Guest:I shitted on him for a long time.

00:23:47Guest:Yeah.

00:23:47Guest:But the older you get...

00:23:49Guest:you start to understand someone's story.

00:23:51Guest:Like, I don't need my dad to tell me.

00:23:53Guest:I know.

00:23:53Guest:You know what I mean?

00:23:54Guest:You're 28 and you marry a woman with two kids.

00:23:57Guest:One's eight.

00:23:58Guest:And then right around 12, he becomes, he's schizophrenic.

00:24:01Guest:He's beating the shit out of you.

00:24:02Guest:You know what I mean?

00:24:03Guest:I get it.

00:24:04Guest:I get why you left.

00:24:05Guest:I get it.

00:24:06Guest:I respect you.

00:24:06Guest:I told him that.

00:24:07Guest:I respect you.

00:24:08Guest:I get it.

00:24:09Guest:And to this day, he still visits my brother the most.

00:24:10Guest:Out of all of us.

00:24:12Guest:You go to the logbook at the hospital, you'll see my dad's name there.

00:24:15Guest:Your schizophrenic brother is in the hospital?

00:24:18Marc:How old is he now?

00:24:18Guest:He's my eldest.

00:24:20Guest:He's 51.

00:24:22Guest:Wait, shit.

00:24:24Guest:A little older, 52.

00:24:25Guest:Uh-huh.

00:24:26Guest:So did they diagnose it correctly early on?

00:24:30Guest:No, I mean, it's also that time.

00:24:32Guest:You know, Mark?

00:24:33Guest:Yeah.

00:24:35Guest:That time was...

00:24:37Guest:1978.

00:24:37Guest:So they didn't know.

00:24:39Guest:They didn't know.

00:24:40Guest:You know, he's just a kid.

00:24:41Guest:I still remember that vividly.

00:24:43Guest:What did he do?

00:24:43Guest:He said he was a tiger, and he was trying to fight my dad, and my mom put me in the room, and I remember laying there, and they were just calling the cops and trying to contain him.

00:24:54Guest:Twelve.

00:24:54Guest:Yeah, it was about twelve.

00:24:56Guest:And that was it.

00:24:57Guest:That was the start of it.

00:24:58Guest:And it was... He believed he was a tiger.

00:25:01Guest:He believed he was a tiger.

00:25:02Guest:Yeah, it was bad.

00:25:03Guest:It was about, like, one in the morning, two in the morning.

00:25:05Guest:It was...

00:25:06Marc:It was bad, man.

00:25:07Marc:I like that it was sort of an animal that was probably more indigenous to, like, Asian culture.

00:25:13Marc:Yeah.

00:25:15Guest:Than a fucking grizzly bear.

00:25:16Guest:Right.

00:25:16Guest:Yeah.

00:25:17Guest:He chose a tiger.

00:25:18Guest:Chose a fucking tiger.

00:25:19Guest:He said that, too.

00:25:20Guest:I'm a fucking tiger, dad.

00:25:22Guest:I'm a fucking tiger.

00:25:24Guest:It was...

00:25:24Guest:It was rough, man.

00:25:25Guest:He's all lit up.

00:25:26Guest:He's a good guy, too, man.

00:25:28Marc:Well, how long did it take?

00:25:30Marc:What was the wrangling process?

00:25:31Marc:How long did it take to get him diagnosed or get him in the hospital?

00:25:35Guest:It was a lot of cops.

00:25:38Guest:A lot of cops at the house.

00:25:39Guest:A lot of beatings.

00:25:40Guest:On and off, you mean?

00:25:41Guest:Off and on.

00:25:42Guest:I mean, we... Because you didn't know.

00:25:44Guest:No, you couldn't fuck with my brother, man.

00:25:45Guest:Small guy, tiny.

00:25:47Guest:He'll fight six, seven cops.

00:25:49Guest:You could not contain that guy.

00:25:51Guest:He'll punch my dad.

00:25:52Guest:He'll knock my dad's block off all the time.

00:25:54Guest:Really?

00:25:54Guest:Yeah, man.

00:25:56Guest:Punch my mom in the eye.

00:25:56Guest:I remember when she came to the school with a black guy.

00:25:58Guest:I was like, God damn, man.

00:26:00Guest:And when did they finally institutionalize him?

00:26:03Guest:How old was he?

00:26:03Guest:You know, the state can only hold somebody like that for so long because it's...

00:26:10Guest:The hospital gets filled quite often.

00:26:12Guest:My brother's very smart.

00:26:13Guest:He knows how to play the system.

00:26:15Guest:So he'll get out and then he'll start a fight.

00:26:19Guest:He'll rob.

00:26:19Guest:He'll do whatever it takes to go back in.

00:26:22Guest:And that's always been my brother's hustle.

00:26:24Guest:But he doesn't like being out, but he wants to get out.

00:26:27Guest:He wants to get out.

00:26:27Guest:But when he's out, he knows he needs to get in.

00:26:29Guest:Yeah, because there's a shower there.

00:26:31Guest:There's food.

00:26:32Guest:you know what i mean so he's on and off the streets kind of guy yeah and then but my brother it's it's hard man i can't imagine but don't they have shot that special in uh to come my sisters are like let's go visit robert i'm like it's gonna bring me in a different space man oh before the special yeah you gotta wait i can't yeah you know yeah it's tough and and but he's he's in a place now that he can stay

00:26:55Guest:No, he'll get out.

00:26:57Guest:He'll get out.

00:26:58Guest:It's just that it's, you know what I mean?

00:27:00Guest:It's a routine, Mark.

00:27:01Guest:Right.

00:27:01Guest:And what does he do?

00:27:02Guest:Live on the streets?

00:27:03Guest:He'll live on the street.

00:27:04Guest:They'll put him in a group home and then he'll get into a fight and then they'll arrest him and then the judge will put him in.

00:27:09Marc:They can't get him on medicine for schizophrenia though?

00:27:12Guest:My brother's case is worse than anyone can imagine.

00:27:16Guest:It's pretty bad.

00:27:17Guest:So he's, we can call my brother right now and he'll start off as Robert and then it'll just go somewhere else.

00:27:23Guest:And then it's, and it's hard to get off the phone.

00:27:25Guest:Oh really?

00:27:26Guest:Cause like he's talking about other worlds.

00:27:28Guest:Yeah.

00:27:28Marc:He's delusional.

00:27:29Marc:It'll go somewhere else.

00:27:30Marc:That's sad.

00:27:31Marc:Yeah, it is.

00:27:31Marc:In your whole life.

00:27:32Marc:It was just sort of that.

00:27:34Guest:Yeah.

00:27:35Marc:And your dad, you feel like in retrospect, I hated my dad for leaving.

00:27:38Guest:Yeah.

00:27:39Guest:And I hated his parents.

00:27:40Guest:That's why I call them his parents.

00:27:42Guest:You know, I never had a relationship with his parents and, and he knew that he cried.

00:27:47Guest:My dad cried too.

00:27:48Guest:He said it was the time it, you know what I mean?

00:27:50Guest:Like I was, I get it.

00:27:52Guest:And then, so I never had a relationship with that side of the family.

00:27:55Guest:I don't know anyone on that side of the family.

00:27:57Guest:Cause you left at nine.

00:27:58Guest:Yeah, I was 10.

00:27:59Guest:I think I was 10 and it just sucked.

00:28:01Guest:Yeah.

00:28:02Yeah.

00:28:02Guest:So my mom raised me, and then my aunts raised me.

00:28:04Guest:My aunt named me Jokoy.

00:28:06Guest:You know what I mean?

00:28:07Guest:That's where it all came from.

00:28:08Marc:So in Tacoma, your dad takes off, your mom creates the Filipino American Club.

00:28:13Guest:I'm sorry.

00:28:14Guest:I did say that.

00:28:15Guest:She didn't create it.

00:28:16Guest:She became part of it.

00:28:18Guest:They founded this group together.

00:28:20Guest:It was called the Filipino... She's still friends with a lot of them to this day.

00:28:24Guest:But yeah, they would rent out the Knights of Columbus Hall.

00:28:29Guest:I don't know if you know what that is.

00:28:30Guest:It's called the Knights of Columbus Hall.

00:28:32Guest:Rent it every Sunday.

00:28:33Guest:And these families, each family would bring some type of Filipino food because there was no Filipino restaurants out there.

00:28:39Guest:So everyone would bring some type of food and there'd be a big table.

00:28:43Guest:It was potluck.

00:28:45Guest:And of course, they'd make the kids entertain.

00:28:46Guest:And that was my sister and I would do the most of the entertaining.

00:28:49Guest:I would dance and my sister would sing.

00:28:51Guest:Really?

00:28:52Guest:Every Sunday, yeah.

00:28:53Guest:Were there other kids?

00:28:53Guest:There were other kids, yeah.

00:28:55Guest:So everybody's hanging out being Filipino.

00:28:56Guest:Yeah, man.

00:28:57Guest:Being Filipino, that's so good.

00:28:59Guest:Yeah, that's exactly what was going on.

00:29:01Guest:And that's why that was the culture that I identified with the most.

00:29:03Marc:Yeah, because you grew up in it.

00:29:05Marc:There was a big Filipino community in Eagle Rock.

00:29:08Marc:Yeah, yes.

00:29:09Guest:Huge.

00:29:09Marc:And I remember that they opened a Filipino restaurant that I went to once, and then it didn't stay open, but I never had anything like it.

00:29:16Marc:I don't remember any of it, but it was sort of challenging, the food.

00:29:19Marc:Really?

00:29:19Guest:Well, no, I mean like- I got to get you some good food, man.

00:29:22Guest:Our chicken adobo is amazing.

00:29:23Guest:Oh, yeah, okay, that's good.

00:29:24Guest:That seems reasonable.

00:29:25Guest:Soy sauce with vinegar and a little bit of garlic.

00:29:27Guest:Yeah, yeah, that sounds good.

00:29:28Marc:Can't beat it.

00:29:30Marc:But this seemed a little different.

00:29:31Marc:There was some different dish where I was sort of like, that's interesting.

00:29:33Marc:I never had that before.

00:29:34Marc:Yeah.

00:29:34Marc:Our weird dishes, I don't like to eat.

00:29:37Guest:Yeah, but everyone has it.

00:29:38Guest:It's like you got the dinigawans and stuff like that.

00:29:42Guest:What is that?

00:29:42Guest:That's heavy.

00:29:43Guest:That's the intestines and stuff like that.

00:29:45Guest:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

00:29:46Marc:It's always that kind of stuff, brains, intestines.

00:29:48Guest:Yeah, man.

00:29:49Marc:But the old-timers eat it.

00:29:50Marc:Yeah, man.

00:29:51Marc:People that come from poverty have to eat it.

00:29:54Marc:And if they're not in poverty anymore, that reminds them that.

00:29:56Marc:They're out.

00:29:58Marc:And now we're eating it because it makes us feel like we did when we were kids.

00:30:03Marc:Yes, man.

00:30:04Marc:It was what made us feel better back then.

00:30:06Marc:Exactly.

00:30:07Marc:This is the best thing we could get.

00:30:10Marc:This is all we can get.

00:30:11Guest:Yeah, that's right.

00:30:11Marc:For this much money.

00:30:12Marc:The intestines.

00:30:13Guest:But you have money now.

00:30:14Marc:I know.

00:30:15Guest:I know, but it makes us feel comforted.

00:30:16Guest:Yes.

00:30:17Guest:so it was tacoma the whole time tacoma is uh where my dad retired and that's where they got divorced and uh yeah that's where it all started for me well how'd you what were you doing there were you just finishing school hanging out i was a dearly yeah you're shitty i was shitty i was no no i was uh i was a good kid yeah i was but i was very uh i was the only kid i was the youngest kid yeah and uh

00:30:41Guest:Like I said, my brother was in and out of the house and getting arrested.

00:30:44Marc:But that's just insanity.

00:30:46Marc:So he took up a lot of the emotional time of the rest of the family.

00:30:50Marc:Exactly.

00:30:50Marc:Managing your schizophrenic brother.

00:30:52Marc:Yeah.

00:30:53Marc:So you're in that weird position where you got to resent him for being sick.

00:30:56Marc:Yeah.

00:30:57Marc:And then I'm resenting my dad for not being there.

00:31:00Marc:So I imagine everyone's just dealing with Robert, the schizophrenic.

00:31:03Marc:Yeah.

00:31:04Marc:And that took up a lot of energy.

00:31:05Marc:That took a lot of energy.

00:31:07Marc:Yeah.

00:31:08Guest:And I just found myself...

00:31:10Guest:I knew I was the funniest guy all the time.

00:31:13Marc:That's what you did to make sense of things.

00:31:15Guest:Yeah, man.

00:31:15Guest:I loved it.

00:31:17Guest:And I was addicted to stand-up.

00:31:18Guest:I couldn't get enough of it, man.

00:31:20Guest:Is that how you escaped when you were a kid from the chaos?

00:31:23Guest:Yeah.

00:31:23Guest:You'd watch.

00:31:24Guest:Who were your guys?

00:31:25Guest:All of them.

00:31:26Guest:My favorite, of course, this is back when you had the VHS tapes.

00:31:30Guest:And you just put the tape over whatever it was, and then you could record.

00:31:35Guest:And then you put it to extended play.

00:31:38Guest:You could put three or four on there.

00:31:39Guest:And I had one.

00:31:40Guest:My mom just got HBO.

00:31:41Guest:And, of course, it had Bill Cosby himself on there.

00:31:44Guest:Yeah.

00:31:44Guest:It had Robin Williams' Life from the Met, Whoopi Goldberg, Around the World in 18 Motherfucking Days.

00:31:49Guest:Delirious was on there.

00:31:52Guest:And then I started getting...

00:31:55Guest:the other stuff that you could rent at these videotape stores.

00:31:58Guest:My friend, uh, Alan Portugal had a video store rental card and, uh, cause blockbuster wasn't out yet.

00:32:05Guest:Right.

00:32:06Marc:And that's when I got Richard and, uh, and I got, you're just so a family owned video.

00:32:10Guest:Yeah.

00:32:10Guest:And I would get Richard and I got Carlin and then, uh, and then my addiction just started getting worse and worse.

00:32:16Guest:And then Dennis Wolfberg, uh, Brian Regan.

00:32:19Guest:I love the storytellers, man.

00:32:21Guest:Yeah.

00:32:21Guest:So Dennis Wolfberg was like one of my favorites.

00:32:24Guest:Yeah.

00:32:24Guest:I loved it.

00:32:25Guest:Yeah, I couldn't get enough of that guy.

00:32:27Guest:The way he would open his eyes when he would deliver something.

00:32:30Guest:It was wild.

00:32:31Guest:Yeah, it was great, man.

00:32:32Guest:And just the list goes on.

00:32:34Guest:I got to see Chris Rock before he did Bring the Pain.

00:32:38Guest:So you were going to shows?

00:32:40Guest:Richard Jenny.

00:32:40Guest:Yeah, I was going to it.

00:32:42Guest:When you were in high school?

00:32:43Guest:No, after high school, that's when I started going to the shows in Vegas.

00:32:46Guest:Oh, wait.

00:32:47Guest:So when did you end up in Vegas?

00:32:49Guest:89.

00:32:50Guest:Okay.

00:32:50Guest:Yeah.

00:32:50Guest:So your mom moved down there.

00:32:52Guest:Yeah.

00:32:52Guest:Everybody moved down there.

00:32:53Guest:Why?

00:32:54Guest:My grandmother had cancer.

00:32:56Guest:Oh.

00:32:56Guest:Yeah.

00:32:58Guest:It always goes to a depressing stage.

00:33:00Guest:I'm sorry, Mark.

00:33:01Guest:It's all right.

00:33:01Guest:But yeah.

00:33:02Guest:So you packed up the- She had cancer and we all left.

00:33:04Marc:The sisters and the schizophrenic brother.

00:33:06Marc:Yep.

00:33:06Marc:We all moved.

00:33:07Marc:You all went into a car.

00:33:08Marc:Yeah.

00:33:09Guest:And then my brother was only there for about three months.

00:33:11Guest:Not three days into the trip because-

00:33:15Guest:Oh, fuck, he didn't even make it.

00:33:19Guest:He didn't even make it.

00:33:20Guest:He didn't?

00:33:20Guest:Yeah, my mom and him got into a fight in a diner, and my mom gave him all his money.

00:33:25Guest:He demanded all the money, all her cash, and she was so fed up, she just gave him whatever the cash he had, and that was it.

00:33:32Guest:That's all we saw.

00:33:33Guest:That's all we saw of Robert.

00:33:34Guest:And you left him?

00:33:35Guest:Yeah, and I'm probably mixing up a story here, and I'm sorry, but that's my brain.

00:33:38Guest:It's all over the place.

00:33:40Guest:That was the last time my mom spoke to my brother, and...

00:33:43Guest:On the way to Nevada.

00:33:45Guest:Yeah, that was it.

00:33:46Guest:That was it.

00:33:47Guest:She wrote him off after that.

00:33:49Guest:She was like, I can't deal with it anymore.

00:33:50Guest:I need to live my life.

00:33:51Guest:It's a lot of drama for a trip.

00:33:52Guest:Yeah, especially going to fun cities like Vegas.

00:33:57Guest:Well, yeah, but your grandma's sick.

00:33:58Guest:That was the last time my mom and brother spoke.

00:34:02Guest:She'll occasionally call him every now and then on the phone.

00:34:04Guest:But he's up in Tacoma.

00:34:06Guest:He went back to Tacoma and that was it.

00:34:09Guest:Wow.

00:34:09Guest:And I'm kind of happy she did that.

00:34:10Guest:it's hard yeah because she didn't want she was we were always yelling at her like just let him go like why do you keep bringing him back why do you keep opening the door can't help him yeah and then finally she's like i'm done so we were like thank god man wow so this so you go from the the woods to the desert and that was that was everything for me man i was so depressed in seattle yeah i was depressed in tacoma man all i had was my comedy tapes man so you were in seattle or tacoma well to

00:34:35Guest:Tacoma, but anyone from Tacoma says they're from Seattle.

00:34:38Guest:That's just how it is.

00:34:39Guest:Wait, because you don't want to sound like a hillbilly?

00:34:40Guest:No, because when you say you're from Tacoma, they're like, where the fuck is that?

00:34:43Guest:And then you go, Seattle.

00:34:44Guest:Oh, why didn't you say that?

00:34:45Guest:So I just said.

00:34:46Marc:Okay.

00:34:47Marc:So Nevada was like nirvana to you, huh?

00:34:50Marc:It was just sort of like, I'm here.

00:34:51Guest:Yeah.

00:34:52Guest:I just got to see sun for the first time.

00:34:54Guest:I was playing basketball at one o'clock in the morning because they have 24 hour parks that are lit.

00:34:59Guest:Yeah.

00:35:00Guest:And brand new.

00:35:00Guest:Yeah.

00:35:01Guest:And Safeway was open 24 seven and streets were perfect.

00:35:05Guest:Yeah.

00:35:05Guest:And this is before anybody else.

00:35:07Guest:This is the barrage hasn't even been built yet.

00:35:09Guest:Uh huh.

00:35:09Guest:So if you can imagine that kind of Vegas.

00:35:11Guest:Right, right.

00:35:13Guest:MGM Grand was still there.

00:35:14Guest:MGM Grand was still there before they knocked that thing down.

00:35:17Guest:Yeah.

00:35:17Guest:Because it was called the Marina or something like that.

00:35:19Guest:Yeah.

00:35:20Guest:So, yeah, that was my, I loved it, man.

00:35:23Guest:How old were you when you moved there?

00:35:24Guest:I was 18.

00:35:24Guest:18.

00:35:25Marc:But so, I remember when I saw you accept the, what was it, Comedian of the Year Award?

00:35:31Marc:Stand-Up Comic of the Year.

00:35:32Marc:Yeah, Stand-Up Comedian of the Year.

00:35:33Marc:At Montreal, that you had told the story about going to see who?

00:35:36Marc:Was it Eddie Murphy?

00:35:37Guest:Eddie Murphy.

00:35:37Marc:Eddie Murphy.

00:35:38Guest:Was that in Vegas?

00:35:39Guest:That was in Seattle.

00:35:40Guest:Oh, it was?

00:35:41Guest:It was 1987.

00:35:42Guest:Oh, so right before you moved?

00:35:45Guest:Yeah.

00:35:45Guest:And I took my mom's credit card and bought it online.

00:35:48Guest:Ticketmaster, you had to call.

00:35:49Guest:Yeah.

00:35:49Guest:You had to call it.

00:35:50Guest:Yeah.

00:35:51Guest:So I called with my mom's credit card.

00:35:53Guest:Did she know you took it?

00:35:54Guest:She, she knew I was going to get something for Eddie Murphy.

00:35:57Guest:She thought it was a movie.

00:35:59Guest:Oh, okay.

00:35:59Guest:Yeah.

00:36:00Guest:So, you know, she doesn't know Eddie Murphy does stand up.

00:36:03Guest:Right.

00:36:04Guest:And then, then as she's driving, like, where the fuck are we watching this movie?

00:36:08Guest:I was like, I'm going to a concert.

00:36:12Guest:I brought my friend William.

00:36:13Guest:Yeah.

00:36:14Guest:So she had to drop us off in Seattle and just drive around for a couple hours.

00:36:17Guest:And that was the first, was that the first live show you saw?

00:36:19Guest:That was the first live, and I had to beg my friend William to go.

00:36:23Guest:Because no one knew, kids didn't like stand-up back then, man.

00:36:26Guest:That wasn't a thing.

00:36:28Guest:That's something your dad did.

00:36:29Guest:You know what I mean?

00:36:30Guest:Yeah, I get that, yeah.

00:36:31Guest:And I could...

00:36:33Guest:I had to beg William to go.

00:36:35Guest:He's like, what's Stan?

00:36:36Guest:I don't want to see him.

00:36:36Guest:What is that?

00:36:37Guest:16?

00:36:37Guest:Yeah, I was like 16.

00:36:39Guest:Yeah.

00:36:40Guest:And we were like 12 rows from the stage.

00:36:42Guest:Man, that concert.

00:36:43Guest:Did he like it?

00:36:43Guest:Mark.

00:36:44Guest:Your friend?

00:36:44Guest:Yeah.

00:36:45Guest:Of course.

00:36:46Guest:did you do you know that concert raw no yeah yeah yeah you didn't get to go you didn't see it yeah but it was all arenas yeah you know he played it was where the sonics played and you know the the red screen where he's they show his silhouette and he's holding the roses that that was a video screen that played all his hits all like all his characters on snl and all his movies and it was just to music and it was just speeding up faster and faster faster and bam it turns red and he's standing behind it and i fucking shit myself i was like is this really happening yeah

00:37:16Guest:And then it pulls up slowly and it's Eddie.

00:37:19Guest:Yeah.

00:37:19Guest:And I'm looking around, there's 20,000 people just cheering.

00:37:22Guest:It was over with, man.

00:37:24Guest:I'm like, I got to do that.

00:37:27Guest:He had a black leather suit on with no t-shirt.

00:37:29Guest:Yeah.

00:37:30Guest:He had driving gloves on.

00:37:32Guest:Yeah.

00:37:32Guest:Leather driving gloves, the kind of, you know, that Velcro right here by the...

00:37:36Guest:And then a diamond ring over the glass.

00:37:38Guest:I was like, this fucking guy, man.

00:37:42Guest:And he just killed for like an hour and a half?

00:37:44Guest:It was like two hours.

00:37:45Guest:Really?

00:37:45Guest:Yeah.

00:37:46Guest:It was like two hours or something like that.

00:37:48Guest:Yeah, it was amazing.

00:37:49Guest:Paul Mooney opened for him.

00:37:50Guest:Holy shit.

00:37:52Guest:Yeah?

00:37:52Guest:Had a pink fedora on.

00:37:53Guest:He sat on the stool for like 40 minutes.

00:37:57Guest:Did all right?

00:37:58Guest:Fucking crushed, man.

00:38:00Guest:You know, I've never seen anything like that.

00:38:01Guest:You've probably worked with Paul, haven't you?

00:38:03Guest:Oh, yeah, I worked with Paul.

00:38:04Guest:But, you know, that's that laugh factory and stuff like that.

00:38:06Guest:Sure, sure.

00:38:06Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:38:07Marc:Yeah, I middled for him once in Sacramento.

00:38:09Marc:How'd that go?

00:38:11Marc:It's good.

00:38:16Marc:The thing I learned about Paul, though, is because Sac...

00:38:19Marc:You know, I remember him, like, from being a doorman at the comedy store, seeing him close enough.

00:38:23Marc:So I knew who he was, and I knew that, you know, he had found this new life with Chappelle and everybody.

00:38:27Marc:Yeah.

00:38:28Marc:And he respected him and Richard, obviously.

00:38:30Marc:But you work with him in SAC, which is not really... It was not a black crowd.

00:38:34Marc:No.

00:38:34Marc:You know, it's just that punchline up there.

00:38:36Marc:Yeah, right next to the... The yard and wall.

00:38:38Marc:Right next to the... The bed.

00:38:39Marc:Bed store, yeah.

00:38:40Marc:Yeah, yeah, right.

00:38:41Marc:Exactly.

00:38:41Marc:The mattress store in the fucking mall.

00:38:44Marc:And, you know...

00:38:47Marc:When he's with white audiences, he'll do two hours or more sometimes.

00:38:52Marc:Yeah.

00:38:52Marc:So the thing is, if you don't think you're racist, he'll find it.

00:38:56Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:38:56Marc:He'll find it in you.

00:38:58Marc:That's his trick.

00:38:58Marc:Yeah.

00:38:59Marc:It's sort of like because it's all driven that way.

00:39:01Marc:Yeah.

00:39:02Marc:So you may think you're open-minded, but some of those white audiences are like, what the fuck?

00:39:06Marc:Yeah.

00:39:06Marc:How much of this shit do we got to tell you?

00:39:07Marc:Yeah.

00:39:08Marc:And I thought it was kind of genius.

00:39:09Marc:Yeah.

00:39:10Marc:And he sits there with the calmest posture, man.

00:39:12Marc:Oh, I know.

00:39:13Marc:I know.

00:39:14Marc:Look at you all.

00:39:14Guest:Look at you, motherfucker.

00:39:15Guest:He's something else, man.

00:39:19Marc:All right, so that blew your mind, but you didn't have a plan after that.

00:39:23Marc:You were sort of like, how do I do comedy?

00:39:25Guest:Yeah, I had no idea.

00:39:27Guest:Yeah.

00:39:27Guest:I had no idea.

00:39:27Guest:When did you figure that out?

00:39:28Guest:I called...

00:39:31Guest:I just started calling.

00:39:33Guest:I called all the comedy clubs and said I could do stand-up.

00:39:35Guest:In Tacoma or Seattle?

00:39:36Marc:No, no, in... When you got down there.

00:39:38Marc:When I got to Vegas.

00:39:39Marc:Yeah, to figure out what you had to do.

00:39:40Marc:Yeah.

00:39:40Marc:You want to start.

00:39:41Guest:Yeah.

00:39:42Marc:And where'd they lead you?

00:39:43Marc:To Sharipa?

00:39:43Marc:To nowhere.

00:39:44Marc:Nowhere.

00:39:45Marc:No one's got it open.

00:39:45Guest:Sharipa would never... And I would call him the most because he was the only one that would answer.

00:39:50Guest:Everyone else would send me the voicemail, but for some reason, Sharipa would always answer the calls.

00:39:55Guest:Yeah.

00:39:55Guest:And I would end up talking to him, and then one day he was like, hey, look, kid.

00:39:58Guest:go to L.A., get an act, and then come back to me.

00:40:03Guest:We don't have open mics here, all right, kid?

00:40:04Guest:But he knew because I would make up different names every time I'd call him.

00:40:08Guest:I'd make up names all the time.

00:40:09Guest:I'm Glenn Herbert.

00:40:11Guest:Why?

00:40:11Guest:What were you asking him?

00:40:12Guest:I would be like, if you have a fallout, I can emcee whatever you want.

00:40:17Guest:But you had not been on stage?

00:40:18Guest:Never.

00:40:19Guest:yeah and then uh and then i found out about uh uh this competition was called the biggest fool and it was at the tropicana comedy stop do you remember that yeah a little bit it's now it's now the laugh factory but back then it was called the comedy i know that room yeah yeah harry basil harry basil yeah right he was the owner right yeah he owns it some part he's got some part of it yeah yeah

00:40:44Guest:Yeah.

00:40:44Guest:And then he had this thing called the biggest fool competition.

00:40:48Guest:And what it was is two open micers go head to head during a regular show during the month of March.

00:40:54Guest:And then you just keep eliminating whoever wins that competition becomes the biggest fool, which is April Fool's Day.

00:41:00Guest:You get to open up for a headliner.

00:41:02Guest:You get to you get to MC or some shit for a headliner.

00:41:05Marc:So they throw you on during a regular show?

00:41:07Marc:Yeah.

00:41:08Marc:Two open micers.

00:41:09Marc:Two open micers.

00:41:10Guest:Back to back.

00:41:11Guest:For what, three minutes?

00:41:12Guest:Three minutes in between the feature.

00:41:13Guest:Oh, man.

00:41:14Guest:Or no, before the feature.

00:41:15Guest:Right.

00:41:16Guest:Right after the opener.

00:41:17Guest:We're going to start off with something a little unique.

00:41:19Guest:Yeah, you're going to love this, you guys.

00:41:21Guest:These guys, if you think they're going to suck, they are.

00:41:24Guest:yeah so that's how you started and if you don't laugh remember they're not comics yeah good here they are here they are how'd you do i i bombed so bad really yeah what were you doing i can't remember just sex jokes dick jokes so you weren't you didn't start with a character or a story no just right to dick jokes yeah nothing

00:41:47Guest:Nothing.

00:41:48Guest:Had nothing.

00:41:48Guest:Didn't win.

00:41:50Guest:Didn't get past a minute.

00:41:52Guest:I remember the routine I wrote.

00:41:53Guest:I was like, this is at least 35 minutes.

00:41:56Guest:How do I scale this down to three?

00:41:58Guest:Freaked out.

00:41:59Guest:Shit.

00:42:00Guest:30 seconds in.

00:42:01Guest:You're just like, I'm done.

00:42:02Guest:Heart in my mouth.

00:42:04Guest:I wanted to die, Mark.

00:42:06Guest:I still remember that feeling.

00:42:07Guest:It's the worst.

00:42:08Marc:It was the worst feeling.

00:42:09Marc:It was packed.

00:42:10Marc:Because you spent like a month thinking about it.

00:42:12Marc:Yeah.

00:42:13Marc:And then you get up there and you're just like...

00:42:14Marc:yeah you know what was crazy mark is seeing the back of the stage because you only see the front yeah oh you mean behind like the green yeah when you're backstage and it was just like it was like oh my god i'm really here i love that part of our business i love it i love when you walk through the guts of theaters yeah this is show business like look at the kitchen look at people working in the kitchen they got real jobs i'm gonna go fucking fool some people for an hour

00:42:38Marc:i just love that part of it even when you do tv and you're just the guy's holding the holding the curtain you're like what's up man yeah we're about to go on tv yeah man make sure they don't see your hand yeah i always want to see like i see like you know over the years like you know you see the same guys doing that like on conan i've done it a lot yeah but i always look at him and go i got nothing man i got nothing

00:43:00Marc:Marc Maron.

00:43:01Marc:Oh, shit.

00:43:02Marc:Now he looks at me and goes, what do you got?

00:43:04Marc:I'm like, nothing.

00:43:08Marc:I loved it, man.

00:43:09Marc:I was addicted.

00:43:10Marc:Yeah.

00:43:10Guest:So how did you then make your... My sister, like I said, she's a singer, and she became a lounge jack in Vegas.

00:43:18Guest:What hotel?

00:43:19Guest:Every single one.

00:43:20Guest:Every single one.

00:43:21Guest:She's got a mouth on her, too.

00:43:23Guest:So it got to the point where my dad and I would always go, when do you think Rowena will get fired?

00:43:27Guest:Because she always got fired from bands.

00:43:28Guest:Right.

00:43:29Guest:Uh-huh.

00:43:29Guest:But then another band went higher because she could sing.

00:43:31Guest:Oh, good.

00:43:32Guest:She was so good.

00:43:33Guest:And then she entered this competition called Star Mania, which was basically like Star Search, but it was like the bootleg version.

00:43:39Guest:And I go watch her do a competition.

00:43:42Guest:Yeah.

00:43:42Guest:And there's a comedian that she's going up against.

00:43:44Guest:Oh, yeah.

00:43:45Guest:Who's that?

00:43:45Guest:I don't even remember.

00:43:46Guest:All I remember is he took his pants off and he had glow-in-the-dark pants.

00:43:49Guest:Yeah.

00:43:49Guest:And I remember him going, I need the spotlight guy to turn off the house lights.

00:43:55Guest:Yeah.

00:43:56Guest:Turn off the lights.

00:43:57Guest:And then he pulled his pants down.

00:43:58Guest:And I fucking remember that.

00:44:00Guest:Like he had this glow in the dark pants.

00:44:02Guest:And my sister was like, she didn't even know I was trying to be a comedian.

00:44:05Guest:Right.

00:44:06Guest:And she's like, you should be doing this.

00:44:08Guest:Yeah.

00:44:08Guest:This guy's fucking stupid.

00:44:10Guest:Yeah.

00:44:10Guest:Stupid.

00:44:11Guest:But she had no idea I was trying to pursue standup.

00:44:14Guest:Oh.

00:44:14Guest:At all.

00:44:15Guest:And then I entered that contest.

00:44:17Guest:Oh, you did?

00:44:17Guest:Yeah.

00:44:17Guest:Behind her back.

00:44:18Guest:She had no idea.

00:44:19Guest:Yeah.

00:44:19Guest:I don't think the glowing pants guy made it.

00:44:21Marc:No, not at all.

00:44:22No.

00:44:22Marc:That was it for him.

00:44:24Marc:I don't think he had another thing in him.

00:44:26Marc:He didn't even have a chance on the biggest fool competition.

00:44:28Marc:How do you get to the glowing pants?

00:44:31Guest:Are you open with it?

00:44:31Guest:Yeah, no.

00:44:34Guest:There was a buildup.

00:44:35Guest:Yeah.

00:44:36Guest:So you entered that competition.

00:44:37Guest:Yeah, and I still remember the bar.

00:44:39Guest:Because what they did is that Starmania would book these...

00:44:42Guest:this show, the Starmania show at local bars, and then the whole catch was, yeah, if you could just let Starmania be here on a Tuesday, and all these people that enter the competition always bring people, and it'll fill your bar.

00:44:54Guest:So I got on this one show, and it was on Tropicana and Eastern.

00:44:58Guest:The bar's still there, and the stage is still there.

00:45:01Guest:I just went and looked at it the other day.

00:45:03Guest:Oh, really?

00:45:04Guest:Oh, yeah, man.

00:45:04Guest:I got all teary-eyed.

00:45:06Guest:I was like, oh, shit.

00:45:07Guest:Oh, you were just in town?

00:45:08Guest:Yeah, well, I bought a house out there, too.

00:45:10Guest:Oh, you did?

00:45:11Guest:Yeah.

00:45:11Guest:So you lived there?

00:45:12Guest:Yeah.

00:45:13Guest:Yeah.

00:45:13Guest:I live here.

00:45:14Guest:Yeah.

00:45:14Guest:But I have a, fuck Mark, I have a restaurant out there too.

00:45:17Guest:Yeah.

00:45:18Guest:So if you want to eat, just go to my restaurant.

00:45:19Guest:Filipino food?

00:45:20Guest:No, it's Japanese.

00:45:21Guest:You bought a Japanese restaurant in Vegas?

00:45:23Guest:I bought a Japanese restaurant.

00:45:24Guest:What's it called?

00:45:25Guest:Joe Coy's?

00:45:25Marc:It's called Yo-Jay.

00:45:27Marc:Yo-Jay?

00:45:27Marc:Yeah, Yo-Jay.

00:45:28Marc:Did you buy it with partners?

00:45:29Marc:I did and then I bought them all out.

00:45:31Marc:You did?

00:45:31Marc:Yeah.

00:45:31Marc:Doing all right?

00:45:32Marc:Yeah.

00:45:33Marc:Okay.

00:45:33Marc:It's doing good.

00:45:34Marc:So you're a restaurant owner?

00:45:35Marc:Yeah.

00:45:35Marc:Why the fuck do show business people get into restaurants?

00:45:38Guest:i don't know it's a weird thing it's it's fun for me because it was a passion project and i just love eating yeah and my sister runs it you know it's fun oh so the younger sister yeah gemma oh that's what she does for you well she runs that oh she runs my shit too she runs your your business my business yeah everything oh everything joe coy and the restaurant and the restaurant and it's popular restaurant

00:45:59Marc:Yeah.

00:46:00Marc:Good.

00:46:00Marc:Yeah.

00:46:01Marc:Where do you get now?

00:46:01Marc:It's a sushi restaurant.

00:46:02Marc:No, it's just shabu shabu.

00:46:04Marc:Oh, it's like the Kobe beef and all that.

00:46:06Guest:Yeah.

00:46:06Marc:And is it on the strip and the other strip?

00:46:08Guest:It's off the strip by my house, Summerlin.

00:46:10Marc:So it's by your house.

00:46:11Marc:Yeah.

00:46:11Marc:So you can just drive down the street to your restaurant from your house.

00:46:14Marc:Yes.

00:46:15Marc:And you have a house out here.

00:46:16Guest:Yeah.

00:46:17Marc:Okay.

00:46:17Marc:Shit.

00:46:19Marc:Where do you keep the kids?

00:46:20Guest:uh my son my my mom my my uh my ex and i you know i made sure that she lives right next to me in vegas no she she lives here in la okay so i have a house and then i moved her right like literally five minutes i'm assuming you get along of course oh good yeah yeah i didn't want our relationship to be like my mom and dad's i didn't want i want i want a good relationship with her and did you end it

00:46:43Guest:We both did.

00:46:44Guest:Oh, okay.

00:46:44Guest:Yeah, we knew that it wasn't right.

00:46:46Guest:Okay.

00:46:46Guest:But we knew we had to be good parents, so.

00:46:48Marc:So now you live down the street from each other.

00:46:49Marc:Yep.

00:46:50Marc:And then when you want, you can just go to your other house in Vegas and shabu shabu.

00:46:56Marc:Yeah.

00:46:56Marc:When you need a break.

00:46:57Guest:Yeah.

00:46:57Guest:Okay.

00:46:58Guest:And I do need that break, man.

00:46:59Guest:You do too.

00:47:00Guest:Don't even act.

00:47:01Guest:No, I know.

00:47:01Guest:People don't know how hard this is.

00:47:03Guest:Well, yeah.

00:47:03Guest:When you're self-employed, you never really stop working.

00:47:06Guest:No.

00:47:06Guest:Yeah.

00:47:07Guest:And when we do stop working, we think about, fuck, we should be working.

00:47:10Guest:I know.

00:47:10Marc:What do we got to do?

00:47:11Guest:Yeah.

00:47:11Marc:I do the thing.

00:47:12Guest:but you know you i mean you run a pretty big operation but like before but like let's get from so you you so i entered that competition yeah and i bombed again yeah i lost to a lionel richie impersonator oh yeah and uh and i love that guy i wish i knew his name because um i was working at a shoe store that day and i remember same thing i was like i got too many jokes here

00:47:35Guest:And I remember in my head, I envisioned the manager calling going this kid.

00:47:40Guest:You got to see him like like a movie moment.

00:47:42Guest:Yeah, that's what I envisioned.

00:47:44Guest:Sure.

00:47:44Guest:Fuck.

00:47:45Guest:It didn't happen.

00:47:45Guest:I tanked right when I got on stage and sat next to the guy that went up before me, the Lionel Richie guy.

00:47:51Guest:And for some reason, I couldn't leave.

00:47:53Guest:I should have left.

00:47:54Guest:You know what I mean?

00:47:55Guest:So bad.

00:47:56Guest:I was getting heckled.

00:47:57Guest:Really?

00:47:58Guest:Yeah, it was so bad.

00:47:59Guest:And then I wasn't even 21.

00:48:00Guest:It was a bar.

00:48:01Guest:I think I was like 18, 19.

00:48:03Guest:Like penciled in my mustache, everything, to get in.

00:48:05Guest:I didn't have an ID.

00:48:07Guest:And I remember they asked me if I wanted anything to drink, and I was like, no, no, no, because I didn't want to get carded.

00:48:11Guest:Yeah, yeah.

00:48:12Guest:And he was like, hey, man, you got really good stage presence.

00:48:15Guest:I remember him saying that.

00:48:17Marc:Yeah.

00:48:17Marc:And that was it.

00:48:18Marc:Did he say it like Lionel Richie?

00:48:20Yeah.

00:48:21Guest:He went, hello.

00:48:23Guest:But he did.

00:48:23Guest:He said that.

00:48:24Guest:And I remember, okay, I got it.

00:48:26Guest:Yeah.

00:48:27Guest:I got it, man.

00:48:27Guest:You got that part.

00:48:28Guest:I got stage presence.

00:48:29Guest:Yeah.

00:48:30Guest:And he wasn't lying.

00:48:30Guest:Yeah.

00:48:32Guest:He goes, you have it, man.

00:48:32Guest:You got something up there, man.

00:48:34Guest:There's something about you, man.

00:48:35Guest:Yeah.

00:48:35Guest:Just work on your jokes.

00:48:37Guest:Write some more jokes.

00:48:39Guest:Yeah.

00:48:39Guest:He wasn't a comedian, but he said the right shit to me.

00:48:41Guest:Yeah.

00:48:42Guest:Because I wanted to quit that day.

00:48:43Guest:I remember going home.

00:48:44Guest:My mom and stepdad were on the couch, and I was all dressed up in a tie and had the fake mustache.

00:48:49Guest:And my mom was like, where were you?

00:48:52Guest:Where did you go, Joseph?

00:48:53Guest:Yeah.

00:48:54Guest:And I couldn't tell her.

00:48:55Guest:I just went right to my room.

00:48:56Guest:So where'd she pick up the stepdad?

00:48:58Guest:Vegas?

00:48:59Vegas?

00:48:59Guest:Tacoma.

00:49:01Guest:Oh.

00:49:01Guest:Another military guy.

00:49:02Guest:And I love this guy.

00:49:03Guest:He beat the shit out of my brother.

00:49:05Guest:So that was the most amazing thing I've ever witnessed.

00:49:07Guest:Robert.

00:49:08Guest:Yeah, because I've never seen anyone throw hands with my brother before.

00:49:11Guest:So your dad splits.

00:49:12Guest:Your mom gets a new guy.

00:49:13Guest:New guy.

00:49:14Guest:And she's still with him to this day.

00:49:15Guest:They've been together 30, shit, 35 years.

00:49:19Guest:And she took care, and he beat the shit out of Robert.

00:49:21Guest:Beat the shit out of Robert when he kicked the door down.

00:49:23Guest:Uh-huh.

00:49:23Guest:Yeah.

00:49:24Guest:And that was good.

00:49:25Guest:When I saw that, I was like, fucking Superman's living with us.

00:49:29Guest:oh man i dare you to come to this house now robert i mean imagine being so he really imagine being bullied and you know terrorized your whole fucking life schizophrenic brother yeah so how old do you when she married that guy oh god she married him later you know i mean i was like 21 when she married him but they were together since i was like 16 17 oh okay i get it oh wow so that so he stepped in huh yeah

00:49:52Marc:All right, so it still doesn't sound like you're getting it together on the stand-up stage.

00:49:56Marc:When does that click?

00:49:56Marc:Oh, it takes a long time.

00:49:59Guest:How long did it take you?

00:50:00Guest:You're a fucking god, by the way, so how did it happen?

00:50:04Marc:Same way.

00:50:05Marc:But I started basically in Boston.

00:50:09Marc:There were open mics at clubs.

00:50:11Marc:That was the only option.

00:50:12Marc:Yeah.

00:50:12Marc:It was to find the clubs that had open mics.

00:50:14Marc:And then, you know, do them.

00:50:16Guest:Yeah.

00:50:16Marc:So like I was doing open mics and, you know, I was out here for a year doing, I was a non-paid regular at the comedy store when I was like 21 or 22.

00:50:24Marc:Yeah.

00:50:25Marc:And I got fucked up and went back to Boston where I went to school.

00:50:28Marc:Started doing open mics.

00:50:29Marc:Got, you know, 10, got like 15, 20 minutes together.

00:50:31Marc:Entered a contest in 88.

00:50:32Marc:Yeah.

00:50:33Marc:and came in second, but it was enough to get me opening work at one-nighters.

00:50:38Marc:So I kind of pulled together 25, 30 minutes, and I was driving to shitholes to open for two-man shows.

00:50:46Marc:So that's how I avoided, that's how I just went, became, like, on the regular road, more of a feature act, because I did that work.

00:50:54Marc:The first work I got was like, all right, you're driving to Maine, you're opening for Kevin Knox.

00:51:01Marc:Yeah.

00:51:02Marc:You need to do 25.

00:51:04Marc:You got to do 30 minutes.

00:51:05Marc:He's going to do 45, and you got to pick him up.

00:51:08Marc:Oh, man.

00:51:09Marc:How many of those have I had?

00:51:10Marc:Right.

00:51:11Marc:That's how I started.

00:51:13Marc:Oh, man.

00:51:13Marc:But once I got going, then you just have no choice.

00:51:15Marc:You got to get the fucking time together.

00:51:17Marc:Yeah.

00:51:17Marc:You were blessed because you lived in a big city that had open mics.

00:51:22Marc:Yeah, but also had those one-nighters.

00:51:23Marc:At that time, those rooms, there was the road road.

00:51:27Marc:Yeah.

00:51:27Marc:But then Boston, there were three guys that booked just pubs and bowling alleys and fucking hotels.

00:51:34Marc:Yeah.

00:51:35Marc:They were booking agencies for one-nighters all over New England.

00:51:38Marc:Yeah.

00:51:39Marc:So you got in with them and you could fucking, if you did it, if you pulled it off, you could work every week and make a little change.

00:51:45Marc:You weren't going to get famous, but you were paying your dues.

00:51:51Guest:Vegas was all about pro shit.

00:51:54Guest:Even those shows, the comedy clubs were seven days a week.

00:51:59Guest:So the headliners worked from Monday to Sunday.

00:52:02Guest:yeah it was ridiculous right they would do they would do two on thursday two on friday two on saturday two on sunday yeah like they just want people in and out in and out they would cut they would rather comp the room just to keep people in their casino right so those shows were always packed but not great audiences necessarily horrible they were just trying to kill time or they were miserable because they have nothing else to go to the worst

00:52:24Guest:The worst crowd.

00:52:25Guest:So how do you start getting on?

00:52:27Guest:It took a while.

00:52:28Guest:And then eventually I found a coffee house that started doing open mics.

00:52:33Guest:Oh, really?

00:52:34Guest:Like a variety show?

00:52:35Guest:No, no.

00:52:35Guest:They were doing straight stand-up.

00:52:38Guest:And that's where it took off.

00:52:40Guest:It was called Buzzy's Cafe.

00:52:42Guest:Uh-huh.

00:52:42Guest:and uh and that's when i noticed a lot of my co-workers were coming to see me right and then from then i started meeting other comics that were opening up other rooms like now this slow oh so the comic open mic it started opening up like this world i started seeing it what year are we talking oh man 90 92 93 uh-huh

00:53:03Guest:and then uh and then uh yeah and then that's how i met you know this you know how it is this comic has a room over here and but they all started having rooms and i started making 100 here 100 there and rob uh this one guy rob was uh kind of like a uh headliner that but only did the b rooms you know i mean idaho and uh-huh and he took me to open for him and uh there was another guy that wrote for a sinbad and and he took me and i had to pick him up just like you said yeah i had to drive right

00:53:29Guest:I remember I was in Elko, Nevada, and I remember I was getting $100 for a night, but I had to pay for my own gas, and I had to drive him back.

00:53:41Guest:It was so fucked, and I remember I had to make a decision.

00:53:43Guest:I had to make a decision.

00:53:44Guest:Do I eat tonight, or do I save this money tomorrow?

00:53:47Guest:for breakfast tomorrow because i want to go home with something i just wanted to go home with like 30 bucks right just so i could show my mom i made money you know what i mean yeah because if i would have ate dinner and ate breakfast i would have went home with like five bucks right for sure yeah but i wanted to go home with something so i remember that oh fuck man elco nevada man red light district for the uh the truckers man yeah

00:54:07Marc:Rough crowd.

00:54:08Guest:Rough crowd, man.

00:54:09Guest:But those were the gigs.

00:54:10Guest:And it just started all coming together.

00:54:12Guest:And Kevin Kearney was the one that gave me my first paid gig to open for a headliner at Catch a Rising Star at the MGM Grand.

00:54:21Guest:Wow.

00:54:21Guest:And it was $1,000 for like 12 shows.

00:54:23Guest:Nice.

00:54:24Guest:I made a Xerox copy of that.

00:54:26Guest:What were you doing, like 10, 15?

00:54:28Guest:I was doing 15.

00:54:29Guest:Yeah?

00:54:29Guest:Yeah, man.

00:54:30Guest:And then he gave me, the manager gave me a stack of two-for-ones.

00:54:34Guest:Yeah.

00:54:35Guest:They were orange two-for-one tickets.

00:54:36Guest:Hand them to your friends, man.

00:54:38Guest:Bring them to, and I was doing it.

00:54:39Guest:Yeah.

00:54:40Guest:And I noticed everyone in line were my friends and fans.

00:54:44Guest:Yeah.

00:54:45Guest:And I'm like, well, they're here to see me, not this guy.

00:54:48Guest:Yeah.

00:54:48Guest:But yet I'm giving the casino money and then the money they're going to make is more than what I'm getting paid.

00:54:52Guest:Right.

00:54:53Guest:12 shows divided by a thousand.

00:54:55Guest:I think I'm making like 90 bucks a show.

00:54:57Guest:Yeah.

00:54:57Guest:so i went and looked for theaters really on your own wow and i and i rented this theater called the huntridge theater yeah and it was like this old movie theater from like the 50s yeah and it's uh and it's off on charleston and maryland parkway and you just rented it rented it man wow and then i'm trying to had to take out a loan i got sponsors you did yeah and uh but did it work

00:55:21Marc:Yeah, I sold it out.

00:55:23Marc:How many seats?

00:55:24Marc:800.

00:55:25Marc:So you just took it on yourself to promote your own show at the theater?

00:55:28Marc:Yeah.

00:55:28Marc:You just fucking figured it out?

00:55:30Guest:Yeah, man.

00:55:31Guest:I just did the math in my head.

00:55:33Guest:I'm like, why am I going to let this guy get all the money?

00:55:35Guest:And so who came?

00:55:37Guest:everyone i knew the same people that went to that show so that was the beginning of the the business that's why i can wear every hat like yeah that's why when uh when when i knew i could go on the road i i knew i was also able to book the road right i knew how yeah and i knew if i just like this netflix special when they said no to me they were like no we're good we already got all our comics for 2017 yeah

00:56:03Guest:as depressed as i was because i knew that routine was great and i had to do it now because my son's you know if i wait two more years these jokes are dead right right like these jokes are now yeah right my son yeah you know i mean he's 12 now and the jokes are about him being 10 yeah yeah like i if you wait two more years he's gonna be 18 like i gotta do it now and that's why i paid for that special on my own so you self-produced your last netflix special yeah and they picked it up even though they said no yeah and what was that like they said absolutely not i

00:56:33Guest:And then how did you get them to?

00:56:35Guest:I didn't care, Mark.

00:56:37Guest:You made it.

00:56:38Guest:They said, absolutely not.

00:56:39Guest:We are booked for 2017.

00:56:40Guest:And you went and made it.

00:56:42Guest:And then what was the next conversation?

00:56:44Guest:Don't get me wrong.

00:56:44Guest:I was so fucking depressed.

00:56:46Guest:And God bless all the comics that made it that year.

00:56:49Guest:Yeah.

00:56:50Guest:I saw them get their specials and they're my friends.

00:56:53Guest:I think I was one.

00:56:54Guest:yeah you were one yeah yeah and uh and god bless you guys yeah but i knew i should have been on there too yeah and and i was upset that why why can't they make mine yeah why why so i just shot at myself and i was like it if they don't get it then i'll sell it out the back seat of my car i've done it before but how did you get who did you talk to robbie after why my agent well first of all god bless robbie for coming to netflix

00:57:20Guest:Because we all have a relationship with Robbie, and he's a beautiful guy.

00:57:25Guest:Robbie used to work at the Montreal Comedy Club.

00:57:28Guest:Yeah, at JFL.

00:57:29Guest:And he's a big part of my career.

00:57:31Guest:And I shot that thing on my own, and we got it to Robbie just in time to make it during your...

00:57:38Guest:During everyone, you know, that was a big year for Netflix.

00:57:42Guest:Right.

00:57:42Guest:Stand up.

00:57:42Guest:Yeah.

00:57:43Guest:And I'm just happy that I was on it with you and everybody else.

00:57:46Guest:Yeah.

00:57:47Guest:Yeah, it was.

00:57:47Guest:And I wanted to be on that.

00:57:48Guest:Yeah.

00:57:49Guest:Like I was not going to wait.

00:57:50Guest:Everyone knew that everyone, those specials were coming out in 2017 for Netflix.

00:57:54Guest:Yeah.

00:57:55Guest:Everyone knew that Netflix was going to do a huge stand up push.

00:57:58Guest:And for me to be like not on that, I couldn't.

00:58:01Guest:I couldn't, man.

00:58:02Guest:I have 30 years here, man.

00:58:04Guest:And if I have to do it myself, then I'm going to do it myself.

00:58:06Guest:And I did.

00:58:07Guest:And it paid off.

00:58:08Guest:Fuck yeah, it did.

00:58:11Guest:Times a million, man.

00:58:12Marc:But you were already through the course of... So you start doing the theaters early on, self-promoting yourself, but you still had to figure out how to get a name for yourself.

00:58:23Marc:So when did you come out here?

00:58:25Guest:But like I said, Mark, when I first came out to L.A.,

00:58:29Guest:I still went into the factory, and I became a factory comic.

00:58:33Guest:I never went to the store.

00:58:34Guest:I never went to the improv.

00:58:35Guest:Jamie had beef with Bud for some reason, and he was my manager.

00:58:39Guest:Yeah, it's funny.

00:58:39Guest:I never go to the factory or the improv.

00:58:41Guest:I never go to the store.

00:58:42Guest:You only go to the store?

00:58:43Guest:Yeah, I was store gay.

00:58:43Guest:You don't do the improv at all?

00:58:44Marc:Not anymore.

00:58:45Marc:No?

00:58:47Marc:Okay.

00:58:47Marc:But he wouldn't let me.

00:58:49Marc:Once I started to sell tickets, I'm like, why should they make any money off of me?

00:58:54Marc:They did nothing for me.

00:58:55Marc:Yeah.

00:58:57Yeah.

00:58:58Marc:I'd rather just go to the store.

00:59:00Guest:Yeah.

00:59:00Marc:As far as the factory goes, I don't even know.

00:59:03Marc:I know Jay Davis.

00:59:04Marc:A lot of these rooms, it's sort of like, who's doing it now?

00:59:07Marc:Yeah.

00:59:08Marc:Who's booking the real room?

00:59:09Marc:Yeah.

00:59:10Marc:What nights are they actually having real shows?

00:59:12Marc:Yeah.

00:59:13Marc:And I know Jay Davis is down there, but I don't know.

00:59:15Marc:The store right now for me is just, they're real crowds.

00:59:18Marc:Yeah.

00:59:18Marc:There's no fucking pay.

00:59:19Marc:Comedy crowds.

00:59:20Marc:Comedy crowds are diverse and weird and just real crowds.

00:59:26Marc:Every time I'm at the factory, the times I've gone, and they'd let me work there.

00:59:29Marc:I could work anywhere.

00:59:31Marc:At the factory, I'm like, do all these kids come on the same bus?

00:59:34Marc:I never...

00:59:35Marc:Did they get busted from UCLA?

00:59:38Marc:Yeah, I don't know where they're from.

00:59:39Marc:I don't know why.

00:59:40Marc:And the improv, that room even is never a great room.

00:59:43Marc:That's the hardest room, I think.

00:59:45Marc:Hands down.

00:59:46Guest:And now with the new one, it's like... The easiest room is Laugh Factory.

00:59:48Guest:That's true.

00:59:49Guest:Yeah.

00:59:50Guest:But I love the small room at the improv now, the workout room.

00:59:54Guest:The front room?

00:59:55Guest:I love it, man.

00:59:55Guest:The lab?

00:59:56Guest:Yeah, the lab.

00:59:57Marc:The bar, yeah, it's nice.

00:59:58Marc:I love it.

00:59:58Marc:Yeah, I mean, I've done a couple shows here and there.

01:00:00Marc:I just like the store.

01:00:01Marc:Once you figure out how to do the store, it's very rewarding.

01:00:04Guest:yeah all right so anyway so you come out here and you just lock in with jamie so yeah immediately jamie yeah charges me to come to a inside the goddamn oh really laugh yeah i was so fucking pissed i'm like i'm just dropping a tape off yeah i got a tape let me just hand i want to hand it they charge me to go in to the show to the show and i'm like to see dan cook yeah

01:00:24Guest:he was on that night course and I'm like I'm just here to drop off a tape man it's the show that's after this one the book the girl that runs it her name is Amy Anderson that's her name and I just want to get the tape to her please and uh

01:00:40Guest:And they charged me.

01:00:41Guest:That was so depressing.

01:00:42Guest:I was just like, come on, man.

01:00:45Guest:So, but anyways, I got in and Jamie signed me and kind of wouldn't let me go anywhere else.

01:00:51Guest:So I was doing that show.

01:00:52Guest:I was doing that room seven days a week, man.

01:00:54Guest:I was doing every single show.

01:00:55Guest:And then eventually I had to let him go.

01:00:59Guest:He built you up though.

01:01:00Guest:Yeah.

01:01:00Guest:He got me my Hollywood presence.

01:01:02Guest:But he gave me that stage time.

01:01:04Guest:Gave me a lot of stage time, yeah.

01:01:06Guest:That's important.

01:01:06Guest:Yeah, very important.

01:01:07Guest:Yeah.

01:01:08Guest:And then from then, I had to let him go.

01:01:14Guest:Because I needed to make money, man, and he won't let me do the improvs.

01:01:17Guest:And you were working at Nordstrom's?

01:01:19Guest:I was working three jobs.

01:01:21Guest:Yeah.

01:01:21Guest:I was working at Nordstrom Rack.

01:01:22Guest:I was at Wells Fargo and I was doing this yacht every Saturday and Sunday.

01:01:27Guest:People would rent out this yacht and party for like four hours and then re-dock and then I had to clean it.

01:01:33Guest:What?

01:01:33Guest:Yeah, I had to clean all the forks and had to clean the yachts.

01:01:37Guest:fucking depressing and then go on stage with my my waiter outfit on you know what i mean and and i was just like jamie i gotta get on the road man i got a kid i got a brand new kid man i need to make money and the improv's offering yeah so i had to let him go he didn't understand but i had to let him go he didn't understand and i didn't understand you talk to him now still doesn't talk to me oh really yeah it's all good i guess yeah of course improv you know i you know you you make that you you assume initially that these people are your friends yeah they're not

01:02:07Marc:Yeah.

01:02:08Guest:I just didn't understand how you didn't understand that I need to make money.

01:02:11Guest:It's like, come on, man.

01:02:12Guest:I get you have a beef, but dude.

01:02:14Guest:I don't know.

01:02:15Guest:What was his plan for you?

01:02:18Guest:I don't know.

01:02:19Guest:He said, don't worry, buddy.

01:02:20Guest:I'll make you money.

01:02:22Guest:There's other gigs out there.

01:02:25Guest:Yeah, yeah.

01:02:25Guest:Yeah.

01:02:26Marc:Where?

01:02:26Marc:Well, when I opened the Laugh Factory on the Moon, you can play that one.

01:02:30Guest:Yeah, yeah.

01:02:30Marc:Opening one in Chicago and one in New York.

01:02:33Marc:Yeah.

01:02:33Marc:And all those places just went dark.

01:02:35Marc:Never happened.

01:02:37Marc:It didn't.

01:02:37Marc:Did the one in Chicago happen?

01:02:38Guest:Did you see the one in New York?

01:02:40Marc:Yeah.

01:02:41Guest:Did you ever go to it?

01:02:41Marc:It was a strip club.

01:02:42Marc:It was Peep World, I think.

01:02:44Guest:Yes.

01:02:44Yeah.

01:02:45Marc:Yeah.

01:02:46Marc:I gotta go, Jamie.

01:02:47Marc:That's the best.

01:02:48Guest:After I did Peep World, I was like, I gotta go.

01:02:49Marc:The worst fucking block in this city.

01:02:51Guest:There's mirrors.

01:02:52Marc:Yeah, it's still like, yeah, it's still half a fucking, you gotta go upstairs.

01:02:55Marc:Yeah.

01:02:55Marc:It was the weirdest fucking place, dude.

01:02:57Marc:There's a dungeon.

01:02:58Guest:Like, what happened here?

01:02:59Marc:I don't know.

01:02:59Marc:I don't know whose great idea that was.

01:03:01Marc:It was literally... And then you still got the people that are coming in thinking it's the place.

01:03:05Marc:Wait, is it still there?

01:03:06Marc:No, I don't think so.

01:03:06Marc:No, I don't think it's there.

01:03:08Marc:I don't know what happened to those clubs.

01:03:09Marc:There was one in Chicago for a minute.

01:03:10Guest:Oh, that died fast.

01:03:11Marc:Yeah.

01:03:12Marc:Well, anyway, so... All right, so what's the break?

01:03:14Marc:What do you do?

01:03:15Marc:You got a new manager?

01:03:16Guest:I get the new manager.

01:03:17Guest:I went through a few managers.

01:03:20Guest:Improv started taking off.

01:03:22Guest:And then, you know, like I said, I knew that...

01:03:27Guest:Two for ones and all that stuff wasn't going to build my fan base.

01:03:31Guest:That was going to set an image for me.

01:03:34Guest:Yeah.

01:03:35Guest:So I got rid of that right away.

01:03:37Marc:No freebies.

01:03:37Guest:No freebies.

01:03:38Guest:Yeah.

01:03:39Marc:That's what I hate about the improv.

01:03:41Marc:Well, no, you can tell them, though.

01:03:42Marc:I know, but I get it.

01:03:43Marc:Well, back when I couldn't sell tickets, they didn't give a fuck.

01:03:46Guest:Fuck them.

01:03:47Marc:Yeah.

01:03:47Marc:Anyway, go ahead.

01:03:49Marc:I, I, I, well, my relationship with the improv, I have no reason to be resentful.

01:03:53Marc:I wish him nothing but good things.

01:03:54Marc:Yeah, you're Mark fucking Marin.

01:03:56Marc:Are you kidding me?

01:03:57Guest:Look at you.

01:03:57Guest:I, uh, I, uh, I don't have a Japanese restaurant.

01:04:03Guest:Yeah.

01:04:03Guest:You just have a hit show on Netflix.

01:04:05Guest:That's all.

01:04:06Guest:No, but I told them right away, we can't do two for ones if I'm going to come into the improvs.

01:04:13Guest:It's got to be a percentage deal or forget it.

01:04:15Guest:And that's how I did it.

01:04:16Guest:I knew that my brand...

01:04:18Guest:especially my fans, I felt like once you start saying you're two for one there, you're always going to be two for one.

01:04:25Guest:Yeah.

01:04:25Guest:They'll get mad at you if you don't do it.

01:04:26Guest:Yeah.

01:04:27Guest:Yeah.

01:04:27Guest:So I was like, we got to get rid of that now.

01:04:29Guest:Yeah.

01:04:29Guest:So, and that's, that's always been my goal.

01:04:31Guest:And yeah, yo, I, I, I knew what I was worth and that's what I'm going to give you a show.

01:04:36Guest:Just pay for it.

01:04:36Guest:So there were times where like a Thursday night would have eight people, but I didn't care.

01:04:40Guest:And they would ask me, Joe, let's just do two for one.

01:04:43Guest:I'm like, no, no,

01:04:44Guest:Next year, they'll be 16.

01:04:45Guest:How's that?

01:04:46Marc:Yeah.

01:04:46Marc:So it was that slow.

01:04:47Marc:But what was the relationship with the Montreal Comedy Fest?

01:04:51Marc:Because it seems like I didn't realize, because I've been there a few times, but I'm in and out.

01:04:55Marc:But when I presented the award for the best writers to the creators of GLOW, and you got that award, it really seemed like you have a real relationship with that festival.

01:05:06Marc:Yeah.

01:05:06Marc:They helped you create your... Yeah.

01:05:09Guest:Yeah, that's right.

01:05:10Guest:I got my first agent there.

01:05:12Guest:Oh, yeah.

01:05:12Guest:I remember walking off of New Faces and got my first agent.

01:05:17Guest:Yeah.

01:05:18Guest:She walked right up to me and she's like, yeah, I want to blah, blah, blah.

01:05:21Guest:I want to represent you and hand me a card and thank God.

01:05:24Guest:Yeah.

01:05:25Guest:And then Bob and Ross walked up to me and they were like, you're getting The Tonight Show.

01:05:32Guest:Oh, really?

01:05:32Guest:Yeah.

01:05:33Guest:So you got that out of Montreal back when you could still be a new face.

01:05:36Guest:Yeah.

01:05:37Guest:Right.

01:05:37Guest:Back when you were really a new face.

01:05:38Guest:Right, right.

01:05:39Guest:And and that was it for me, man.

01:05:41Guest:That Tonight Show changed my life.

01:05:43Guest:Interesting.

01:05:43Guest:So that was what year?

01:05:45Guest:Oh, God, that was my son.

01:05:47Guest:Let's say 13 years.

01:05:48Guest:Yeah, it was about 13, 14 years ago.

01:05:51Guest:So it was like it was the number one show.

01:05:53Guest:Oh, it was huge.

01:05:54Guest:Yeah.

01:05:55Guest:I had no idea how huge that show was.

01:05:56Guest:Right.

01:05:57Guest:I got so much stuff from that.

01:05:59Guest:I literally got to quit all my jobs.

01:06:02Guest:So you were actually working at Nordstrom.

01:06:05Guest:Working at Nordstrom the next day.

01:06:07Guest:Everybody watched it.

01:06:08Guest:Everybody watched it.

01:06:09Guest:Every person that wanted a shoe, every woman that came up and gave me a shoe, and I'm not exaggerating, was like, you were so funny.

01:06:14Guest:That's interesting.

01:06:15Guest:So you got in under the wire when that actually made a difference.

01:06:17Guest:Yes.

01:06:18Guest:So that changed your bookings.

01:06:19Guest:Changed my life.

01:06:20Guest:No shit.

01:06:21Guest:I got to quit.

01:06:22Guest:In three months, I was done with all my jobs.

01:06:24Guest:I remember I was so scared to quit Wells Fargo.

01:06:26Guest:I was so nervous.

01:06:27Marc:You had insurance?

01:06:29Guest:Well, I have a son.

01:06:29Guest:Yeah, I had insurance.

01:06:30Guest:I was like, I can't quit, man.

01:06:32Guest:I was holding on to it.

01:06:34Guest:And then finally, I bit the bullet because I was getting all these gigs.

01:06:38Guest:Improvs wanted me.

01:06:39Guest:And I got this commercial deal with Ant Mobile.

01:06:41Guest:I was the spokesperson for the cell company.

01:06:43Guest:I was doing all these private gigs for Ant Mobile.

01:06:47Guest:It was nuts, man.

01:06:48Guest:It just blew up.

01:06:49Guest:I couldn't believe how much money.

01:06:50Guest:I spent all my money on my teeth.

01:06:51Guest:Look at my teeth.

01:06:52Guest:That's for my first big check.

01:06:54Guest:Yeah.

01:06:54Guest:I remember calling my mom going, they want almost $40,000 for my teeth, mom.

01:06:59Guest:Yeah.

01:06:59Guest:And the only reason why I called her is because I knew she would say, no, don't do it.

01:07:02Guest:Yeah.

01:07:02Guest:And she told me yes.

01:07:03Guest:Oh, really?

01:07:04Guest:Fix your teeth.

01:07:05Guest:Yeah.

01:07:05Guest:I'm tired of looking at your teeth.

01:07:06Guest:Fix your teeth, please.

01:07:09Guest:so you got the teeth she wasn't she was actually very very it was it was actually a sweet call yeah yeah yeah she she knew what it meant to me yeah that i had such a bad smile because i broke all my front teeth when i was like 13 i fell on a rock and cracked all my teeth so i had this one tooth that wouldn't grow anymore the other two were yellow and it was bad and she knew what it meant she knew i was trying to do stand-up just get your teeth you deserve it my god so you got your teeth

01:07:35Marc:yeah and everything took off everything changed yeah yeah it was crazy so you were doing like just but clubs though clubs yep and the and and the people were coming yes they were coming big so was that when you started you know leaning on the asian thing or nope still took me a little bit longer uh and then when i finally figured out what it was mark is i didn't want to do the comparison jokes yeah

01:07:59Guest:I didn't want to do like, Filipinos eat like this and white people eat like, I didn't want to do that.

01:08:05Guest:I wanted to figure it out.

01:08:06Guest:And it was hard.

01:08:08Guest:It was hard for me to figure it out.

01:08:09Guest:I wanted to tell stories.

01:08:10Guest:I wanted to do chocolate cake.

01:08:12Guest:I wanted to do Uncle Gus, man.

01:08:16Guest:And I finally figured it out.

01:08:17Guest:I went up on stage and I just told this story about my mom playing the Wii with my son.

01:08:24Guest:And I just thought it was the coolest thing

01:08:26Guest:thing to see my mom play Wii with my son and how she wanted it so bad because it was exercise for me and I had to go buy her this Wii and I went up on stage and told the whole story and it was I was off and running man and it was personal and it was real and you're drawing from real experience and you know you're finding the beats as you go along and they were working out like jokes there were callbacks it was a structured joke but yet it seemed conversational it's amazing to build those things yeah man and that was it

01:08:54Marc:I changed the whole style.

01:08:55Guest:Yeah.

01:08:56Guest:And I remember when my first special came out and I said game over, which was the big punchline that I was touring with.

01:09:02Guest:Yeah.

01:09:02Guest:You know, with that joke of her playing the Wii.

01:09:05Guest:And I remember doing the special and then I was like, I have to let this thing go.

01:09:12Guest:Like, it's gone.

01:09:13Guest:Right.

01:09:13Guest:Like, I can't do that joke anymore.

01:09:15Guest:It's like Gaffigan in Hot Pockets.

01:09:17Guest:Yes.

01:09:17Guest:Yeah.

01:09:18Guest:Exactly.

01:09:19Guest:And I'm like, what am I going to do?

01:09:20Guest:Yeah.

01:09:21Guest:And that's the whole thing about being a headliner.

01:09:23Guest:That's, that's when I was like, okay, let's go.

01:09:26Guest:Let's write again.

01:09:26Guest:And it's crazy.

01:09:28Marc:How many hours have you turned over?

01:09:30Guest:Oh my God.

01:09:31Guest:10 at least.

01:09:32Guest:Yeah.

01:09:33Guest:Just over and over.

01:09:35Guest:Yeah.

01:09:35Guest:There's hours that I couldn't even, you know what I mean?

01:09:38Guest:Cause from lights out to, to live from Seattle, no one offered me an hour and there's so many hours there that I had to drop.

01:09:45Guest:But did you put them on CD?

01:09:47Guest:Nothing, man.

01:09:48Guest:Oh really?

01:09:48Guest:Yeah.

01:09:49Guest:You know, there's a joke on Live Seattle that's on Live from Seattle that's so fucking old and I had to pretend that it was brand new, but I didn't want it to die because I loved that joke so much.

01:09:58Guest:I was like, it's got to live, man.

01:10:00Guest:I hate when they die.

01:10:01Guest:Yeah, I do too.

01:10:02Marc:It's like losing a kid, man.

01:10:05Marc:I don't think about it too much, but what I started to think about it was that we all get into this habit of like, we got to get the new hour, got to get the new hour.

01:10:11Marc:And then when you do something on TV, even though TV doesn't matter like it used to and no one's even fucking watching it,

01:10:17Marc:no one but like it's sort of like i can't do that anymore and then i realized like fuck that i put it took me six months yeah to get that 12 minute bit working and now i'm just not gonna fucking do it yeah so i pulled one out i pulled it back out yeah because no one never saw it good i did on like john oliver's comedy special right yeah and like comedy thing on comedy central but like no one's making note of that it's like and it's like a great piece and it worked great yeah

01:10:43Guest:That's how I feel about this one that I just did on Jimmy Fallon.

01:10:46Guest:And I'm like... And it was so funny because my agent and my fiance, they were all like, you should do it on... It's perfect.

01:10:53Guest:It's the perfect joke.

01:10:54Guest:Yeah.

01:10:55Guest:Oh, not on Fallon, on James Corden.

01:10:58Guest:Yeah.

01:10:58Guest:And I was just like...

01:11:00Guest:I want that in this new hour.

01:11:02Guest:Oh, you don't want to burn it.

01:11:03Guest:I didn't want to burn it.

01:11:04Guest:Yeah.

01:11:05Guest:And I did it.

01:11:06Guest:And I'm just like, damn it.

01:11:08Guest:Like right now I'm still kicking myself because I'm about to shoot my new hour and I'm contemplating.

01:11:13Guest:Do I do it?

01:11:13Guest:Of course.

01:11:14Guest:Why not do it?

01:11:15Guest:I know I'm going to do it.

01:11:16Guest:I'm going to do it.

01:11:18Marc:What's going to happen?

01:11:18Marc:Like three people are going to be like, I saw that one on fire.

01:11:21Marc:It's like, what do you want from me?

01:11:22Marc:What do you want?

01:11:23Marc:It took me fucking months to get that thing working right.

01:11:25Marc:Yeah, man.

01:11:25Marc:That was up on the, you know, I had that thing, you know, I was working on the undercarriage for a long time.

01:11:30Guest:Dude, I did the sleep apnea bit for about a year and a half.

01:11:32Guest:Yeah.

01:11:33Guest:Just talking about how I have sleep apnea and how I got it and how my mom did it and, and, uh,

01:11:38Guest:And then I shot it.

01:11:39Guest:And I remember it took me, it literally took me a month before I had to take my special to get the damn punchline.

01:11:45Guest:Because it fell weak.

01:11:46Guest:It was such a great story.

01:11:47Guest:There's big laughs and everything.

01:11:49Guest:But my punchline was just like, oh, okay.

01:11:51Guest:Yeah, yeah.

01:11:51Guest:I got one.

01:11:52Guest:Nothing.

01:11:53Guest:And then I finally get it.

01:11:55Guest:I finally get the punchline, which was a callback from another joke.

01:11:58Guest:Right.

01:11:59Guest:And...

01:12:01Guest:And I forgot to fucking do it on the special.

01:12:03Guest:And I wanted to fucking kill myself because it was such, it took me so long to write that thing.

01:12:10Guest:And then I do the special and I forget.

01:12:12Guest:I remember walking off stage going, you got to be kidding me.

01:12:16Guest:Yeah, that whole chunk.

01:12:17Guest:And everyone's like, oh God, man, that was a great special.

01:12:19Guest:And I'm like, no.

01:12:20Guest:Fuck me.

01:12:22Guest:Fuck me.

01:12:23Guest:Where's that joke now?

01:12:25Guest:That's on the special.

01:12:27Guest:I won't do it anymore.

01:12:29Marc:Oh, you got it on the new one.

01:12:29Guest:Yeah.

01:12:30Guest:People don't know how hard we write these things, huh, Mark?

01:12:32Guest:Well, when you do it- Don't you want to punch people in their fucking mouths when they don't understand how hard it is?

01:12:37Marc:Sometimes-

01:12:38Marc:Because especially if you do it like you seem to do, like I do, where you're talking things out.

01:12:43Marc:So you're talking things out.

01:12:44Marc:Yeah.

01:12:45Marc:Because a lot of dudes who write right, they're not going to just wait for a fucking punchline to be delivered.

01:12:49Marc:But if you do stories, you're like, it's strong enough, but I know that the end is weak.

01:12:56Marc:But like the story is still interesting and there's enough laughs there.

01:12:59Marc:And then one day it just finishes itself.

01:13:01Marc:Yeah.

01:13:01Marc:And it's a big day.

01:13:02Marc:And you don't know where it came from.

01:13:03Marc:No, you never do.

01:13:04Marc:But like not everybody writes like that.

01:13:06Marc:But for me, it's sort of like it take, you know, some things are around for a year.

01:13:10Marc:Yeah.

01:13:10Marc:And they tag themselves.

01:13:12Marc:You're like, oh, that's it.

01:13:13Marc:You know, and then it's done.

01:13:15Marc:So, yeah, I don't think people understand the relationship that we have with those things.

01:13:19Marc:A lot of people who just write jokes, they can throw them away.

01:13:21Marc:But if you do long form, it's sort of like, I can't throw that shit away.

01:13:24Marc:This isn't disposable.

01:13:26Marc:This stuff's all got to work together.

01:13:28Guest:Yeah.

01:13:29Guest:Mind you, this doesn't have a shelf life.

01:13:32Marc:Yeah.

01:13:32Guest:This is a joke that can live forever.

01:13:34Marc:You want it to.

01:13:35Marc:Yeah.

01:13:36Marc:So Chelsea Lately 2, that helped you out a lot, right?

01:13:38Guest:Chelsea, yeah, man, that was crazy.

01:13:40Guest:I couldn't believe how popular that show got.

01:13:43Guest:And it kind of sucked because I was in... When I came to LA, I was in.

01:13:47Guest:I was at the Laugh Factory, but I was also doing spots at the Improv.

01:13:51Guest:And I was in, and then that Chelsea just...

01:13:54Guest:You know, I had my son and then Chelsea and my special.

01:13:57Guest:It just, it erupted.

01:13:59Guest:The first special.

01:14:00Guest:Yeah.

01:14:01Guest:And I was able to make money on the road and I had to leave Hollywood.

01:14:05Guest:And I think that's why I lost a lot of connection with the guys that I had relationships with.

01:14:09Guest:You know what I mean?

01:14:10Guest:Right, right, right.

01:14:11Marc:And it sucked.

01:14:12Marc:But you're a guy though, but you're not, so you're a working comic.

01:14:17Marc:Yeah.

01:14:18Marc:And that's what you do.

01:14:19Marc:Yeah.

01:14:19Marc:It's not like you're not running around auditions.

01:14:22Marc:No.

01:14:23Marc:You're one of those guys like Gaffigan or Regan.

01:14:25Marc:It's like that's where your money is, is doing the thing.

01:14:28Marc:Yeah.

01:14:29Marc:Not waiting for the thing.

01:14:30Marc:Yeah.

01:14:31Marc:And we're not going to wait for the thing.

01:14:33Marc:No, right.

01:14:33Marc:So you're out working.

01:14:35Marc:Yeah.

01:14:35Marc:So, yeah, you lose the connection.

01:14:37Marc:Yeah, and that's what happened.

01:14:38Marc:With the waiting guys.

01:14:39Marc:Mm-hmm.

01:14:40With the waiting guys.

01:14:40Guest:And I literally did.

01:14:43Guest:I lost connection.

01:14:44Guest:It sucked because I had a nice bond with all these comics.

01:14:48Guest:That's why when we went to JFL and when Tiffany said that about me, I started crying because that was a part of my life, being at the Laugh Factory and seeing someone like Tiffany Haddish that's broke, but wants to be a comedian.

01:15:02Guest:She's trying to make it in this business and I'm buying her hot dogs.

01:15:05Guest:I didn't know that meant anything to her until she...

01:15:08Guest:Started crying on the stand and I started crying because I totally forgot I did that.

01:15:12Guest:Yeah.

01:15:12Guest:You know what I mean?

01:15:13Guest:But it's like a community.

01:15:14Guest:Yeah, you missed that.

01:15:15Guest:I did miss that.

01:15:17Guest:Yeah.

01:15:17Guest:I was lonely on the road.

01:15:18Guest:I remember being in St.

01:15:20Guest:Charles at the fucking barn at whatever it's called.

01:15:24Guest:I can't remember that damn comedy club.

01:15:25Guest:You know, St.

01:15:25Guest:Charles.

01:15:26Guest:Oh, man, I can't remember it.

01:15:28Guest:The Funny Bone.

01:15:28Guest:Oh, the Funny Bone.

01:15:29Guest:Funny Bone is St.

01:15:30Guest:Charles.

01:15:30Guest:It's in the middle of a cornfield or whatever in a field somewhere.

01:15:33Guest:Oh, don't worry about that.

01:15:34Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:35Guest:and you know like you you're depressed you know you don't have that community anywhere you don't have that your your your comic friends to hang out with fucking universe yeah man and you know and i'm not and i'm not able to bring my features yet so now i gotta wait for who's opening for me and then oh i don't like this guy trying to blow me off stage for a week yeah he's gonna make it hard for me every night yeah exactly who's gonna who wants to become my friend because they want to you know but i don't really like

01:16:01Marc:Them?

01:16:02Marc:You know what it is.

01:16:04Marc:But then the next day, you're like, do you want to go to the mall?

01:16:08Guest:Yeah.

01:16:10Guest:I'll buy you lunch.

01:16:11Guest:Yeah, what are you doing?

01:16:12Guest:You want to go to Cheesecake Factory?

01:16:14Guest:Yeah.

01:16:15Guest:Fuck, man.

01:16:15Guest:There's a Chili's.

01:16:17Guest:Yeah, man.

01:16:18Guest:There's a Chili's.

01:16:19Guest:You like riblets?

01:16:21Guest:Fuck.

01:16:22Marc:Fuck me.

01:16:23Marc:But that's behind you, dude.

01:16:25Guest:Yeah.

01:16:26Guest:But so where are you now?

01:16:28Guest:It's crazy.

01:16:29Guest:I'm doing my last run at Brea Improv, and I think it's like 600.

01:16:33Guest:It's already sold out.

01:16:34Guest:I think we're like 14 shows sold.

01:16:36Guest:Really?

01:16:37Guest:Yeah.

01:16:37Yeah.

01:16:37Guest:Wow.

01:16:38Guest:It's crazy, man.

01:16:39Guest:Yeah.

01:16:40Guest:But are you doing the bigger theaters too?

01:16:43Guest:Yeah.

01:16:45Guest:Lincoln, I just came back.

01:16:46Guest:Lincoln, California, I did 10,000 seats.

01:16:49Guest:That's great.

01:16:50Guest:Yeah.

01:16:50Guest:So that's your huge act.

01:16:52Guest:Yeah.

01:16:53Guest:Not everywhere, Mark.

01:16:54Guest:I know, I know.

01:16:56Marc:I got my spots where I still do the clubs.

01:16:58Marc:Yeah.

01:16:59Marc:Right, but do you find that, like, you know, what's the audience like?

01:17:02Marc:Is there a generally ethnic audience?

01:17:06Guest:Yeah, I'm not going to, yeah, you know, I pay a lot attention to my Filipino people that come out.

01:17:15Guest:It's about 45, 50%.

01:17:16Guest:And then, like I said, when I first started, I went after...

01:17:19Guest:You know, I did Showtime at the Apollo, Def Jam.

01:17:22Guest:I did BET's Comic View.

01:17:23Guest:And then I started doing Latino nights.

01:17:26Guest:And I did the Spanish network.

01:17:29Guest:Yeah.

01:17:29Guest:And got on those tours.

01:17:30Guest:And, you know, I waited before I could do the Filipino stuff.

01:17:35Guest:Sure.

01:17:35Guest:I wanted to get those audiences first.

01:17:37Guest:Yeah.

01:17:37Guest:You know, I got the Chelsea Lately.

01:17:40Guest:John Lovett's people.

01:17:40Guest:I was opening for them.

01:17:41Guest:Yeah.

01:17:42Guest:And every time I opened for somebody and act like that, I always made sure to, like, promote myself, man.

01:17:49Guest:Yeah.

01:17:49Guest:10,000 postcards.

01:17:51Guest:At the end of the show, I'd run out.

01:17:53Guest:I'd be opening for John Lovitz.

01:17:54Guest:I'd run out in the parking lot.

01:17:57Guest:Did you enjoy the show?

01:17:58Guest:I was establishing my audience, man.

01:18:01Guest:They used to make fun of me.

01:18:02Guest:I'm surprised Alonzo Bowden didn't say something during that award because that was his number one go-to.

01:18:10Guest:He would always say that to me.

01:18:11Guest:Go out there and hand out your cards, Joe.

01:18:14Guest:I would.

01:18:14Guest:What was on the card?

01:18:16Guest:It would just say joecoy.com, and then at that time, whatever, like MySpace or whatever, yeah.

01:18:22Guest:Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:18:23Guest:Yeah, and I would hand them out.

01:18:24Guest:Boom.

01:18:24Guest:So you did a lot of that.

01:18:25Guest:Left and right, yep.

01:18:26Guest:Now, what about- I would burn DVDs, Mark, from fries.

01:18:29Guest:I would burn them, and I would give those away for free.

01:18:33Guest:Like from live shows?

01:18:35Guest:Oh.

01:18:35Guest:No, I would burn whatever I did on TV.

01:18:37Guest:I would burn it.

01:18:38Guest:Oh, yeah?

01:18:38Marc:Yeah.

01:18:39Guest:So like my Showtime at the Apollo and BET's Comic View.

01:18:41Guest:No shit.

01:18:42Guest:So you'd spend, like you'd buy bulk DVDs.

01:18:44Guest:Bulk, yep.

01:18:44Guest:Fries.

01:18:45Guest:It'd be $100.

01:18:46Guest:And then I would print, you know, the folding paper that goes inside the sleeve for a DVD.

01:18:53Guest:Yeah.

01:18:54Guest:I would get 10,000 of those printed up so it would look official.

01:18:57Guest:Uh-huh.

01:18:57Guest:And then I would get, my friend worked at Blockbuster and he would give me the cases because he would throw those in garbage.

01:19:02Guest:The gem boxes?

01:19:03Guest:Yep.

01:19:03Guest:I would grab, I would grab,

01:19:05Guest:boxes not boxes garbage bags full yeah and i would just fold them it was just a little you were giving away hundreds a night hundreds of night it was so cool i did a show uh at some theater and uh and a lady waited she she took a picture with me she had the the dvd the old one the old one yeah no kidding yeah

01:19:23Guest:Took a picture with it and everything, man.

01:19:25Marc:So everywhere you go, so you'd open for a headliner and you just like, you'd make sure that they remembered your name.

01:19:30Marc:You said you were one of those guys at joecoy.com.

01:19:32Marc:Yep.

01:19:33Guest:Oh, no, no.

01:19:33Guest:I would hand a card.

01:19:34Guest:But after on stage, thank you.

01:19:36Guest:Thank you.

01:19:37Guest:I'm Joe Coy.

01:19:38Guest:Blah, blah, blah.

01:19:39Guest:I'll be out front.

01:19:40Guest:Yeah.

01:19:40Guest:I never wanted to sell, too.

01:19:42Guest:Never sold.

01:19:43Guest:Wasn't worth it to me.

01:19:45Guest:And you still don't sell?

01:19:45Guest:I've never asked a headliner, yo, can I sell myself?

01:19:49Guest:I knew it was more important to shake everybody's hands and hand a card to them.

01:19:52Guest:You still don't sell?

01:19:53Guest:No, I sell now.

01:19:54Guest:What do you sell?

01:19:55Guest:Just shirts and tees, but I don't really care about it.

01:19:58Guest:That's just something that's tangible.

01:20:01Guest:People want.

01:20:02Guest:I still run out.

01:20:04Guest:You don't have to buy something to take a picture with me because I will literally run out into the audience after my show and take pictures with you.

01:20:10Guest:You'll take like two hours.

01:20:11Guest:I don't care.

01:20:12Guest:Yeah.

01:20:12Guest:Two hours.

01:20:13Guest:Yeah.

01:20:13Guest:I'll do it.

01:20:14Guest:I love it, man.

01:20:16Guest:Yeah.

01:20:16Marc:No, I mean, it's like it's worked out for you.

01:20:18Marc:Yeah.

01:20:18Marc:In a big way.

01:20:19Marc:Yeah.

01:20:20Guest:A lot of people don't like to do it.

01:20:21Marc:I enjoy it.

01:20:21Marc:No, I don't mind doing it.

01:20:22Marc:But like, you know, when you get, I'm not playing 10,000 seats either.

01:20:25Marc:No.

01:20:25Marc:But I mean, if you're doing, you know, an 800 seater, you kind of know sort of like, well, if I'm going to do that.

01:20:31Marc:Yeah.

01:20:31Marc:It's going to be two hours.

01:20:32Marc:Yeah.

01:20:33Marc:And there's going to be a lot of pictures of strangers in a tired me.

01:20:37Marc:Yeah.

01:20:39Marc:You start seeing those pictures.

01:20:40Marc:Yes.

01:20:41Marc:Of just people with you and you're like half like one eyes open.

01:20:44Marc:Yeah.

01:20:46Marc:After a show, you know.

01:20:47Guest:They don't know how tired we are, man.

01:20:49Guest:I know.

01:20:50Marc:They don't know that that hour on stage is tiring.

01:20:52Marc:I don't know either until I see those pictures.

01:20:54Marc:I'm like, oh my God, I thought I was getting away with something.

01:20:57Yes.

01:20:59Guest:So true.

01:21:00Guest:I don't want you to think I play all 10,000 seats.

01:21:02Guest:I've been blessed to- Spread them out.

01:21:04Guest:Yeah, there's a lot of markets.

01:21:06Guest:I've been blessed, man.

01:21:07Guest:I'm so honored to say that there's a city in between Seattle and Tacoma called Kent.

01:21:13Guest:And they built a brand new arena.

01:21:15Guest:It's a hockey arena.

01:21:16Guest:And I sold it out twice.

01:21:17Guest:It was like 11,000 tickets.

01:21:19Guest:And they painted my 10-foot mural.

01:21:23Guest:It says two sold-out shows.

01:21:24Guest:And that's kind of like my...

01:21:26Guest:When I saw that, I was just like, when I was 15, I saw Eddie Murphy and it happened.

01:21:33Guest:Because I remember, Mark, I remember looking at the 300 section going, that's impossible.

01:21:39Guest:There's no way anyone can do that.

01:21:41Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:21:42Guest:So for me to be able to be like, man, if you could dream it, it could happen.

01:21:45Guest:Oh, that's great.

01:21:46Guest:Yeah, man.

01:21:46Guest:And it's like a good homecoming.

01:21:48Guest:And it's always there.

01:21:49Guest:Every game, whatever concert that goes into that venue, they get to see that.

01:21:53Guest:Oh, they leave it there?

01:21:54Guest:Oh, they painted it.

01:21:55Guest:It's on their wall in the hallway, man.

01:21:57Guest:Oh, that's nice.

01:21:58Guest:Local boy.

01:21:59Guest:Yeah, man.

01:21:59Guest:Oh, so, but you get along with your dad now?

01:22:02Guest:Oh, man.

01:22:03Guest:Like I said, man, you know, we both cried.

01:22:07Guest:Yeah.

01:22:07Guest:It was right around, I think I was like 21-ish.

01:22:10Guest:Yeah.

01:22:11Guest:Yeah.

01:22:11Guest:And we both cried.

01:22:12Guest:And I told my dad, I go, dude, I get it, man.

01:22:15Guest:I get it.

01:22:16Guest:Yeah.

01:22:16Guest:You don't have to tell me.

01:22:17Guest:Yeah.

01:22:17Guest:I wrote the story.

01:22:18Guest:I get it, dude.

01:22:19Guest:Yeah.

01:22:20Guest:I would never want to be in that situation.

01:22:22Guest:At your age, I get it.

01:22:23Guest:I probably would have walked away too.

01:22:25Guest:Yeah.

01:22:25Guest:But he's been the biggest supporter of my standup career ever since.

01:22:30Guest:Oh, yeah.

01:22:30Guest:So, yeah.

01:22:31Guest:I remember he maxed out a Visa card just to buy me a website.

01:22:34Guest:Oh, really?

01:22:34Guest:Yeah.

01:22:34Guest:It was like five grand.

01:22:35Guest:Yeah.

01:22:36Guest:And that website could have been free.

01:22:38Guest:Yeah.

01:22:38Guest:But I got ripped off by some guy, but he charged us five grand.

01:22:41Guest:But I remember my dad was like, all right, here.

01:22:44Guest:And he maxed out this credit card and gave me five grand to pay this guy to make my website.

01:22:47Guest:Because I told my dad, I go, dad, I need a website because the website's going to tell the world who I am.

01:22:52Guest:Yeah, sure.

01:22:54Guest:Did you pay him back?

01:22:55Guest:No.

01:22:57Guest:he owed me god damn it there you go and uh all right well great how cool is it that when you said i i knew of you but i didn't know who you were yeah and i'm like i know that because when we got on the plane to jfl i was moving my jacket for you and you were like thanks buddy no i didn't quite put it together i like you know a

01:23:18Marc:Hey, thanks.

01:23:20Guest:Thanks, pal.

01:23:21Marc:Thanks for making space for my suit.

01:23:22Marc:That's true.

01:23:23Marc:That was you, wasn't it?

01:23:25Marc:Yeah.

01:23:26Marc:Was it?

01:23:26Marc:Were you wearing a hat?

01:23:27Guest:Yeah.

01:23:28Guest:Oh.

01:23:29Marc:Yeah.

01:23:29Marc:I really didn't recognize you.

01:23:31Guest:Yeah.

01:23:31Guest:You're like right across from me.

01:23:32Guest:I didn't care, man.

01:23:33Guest:You had your suit, and I'm like, Mark needs to put his suit.

01:23:36Guest:He needs to hang his suit, goddammit.

01:23:38Marc:But you were wearing a hat.

01:23:39Marc:You had glasses on.

01:23:40Marc:Yeah.

01:23:40Marc:And you had something around your neck, and you did not look like you.

01:23:43Marc:Yeah.

01:23:44Marc:And I was wondering, who the fuck is that guy?

01:23:47Marc:Yeah.

01:23:47Marc:But then when you took your hat off and I saw you at the thing and you didn't have glasses on.

01:23:51Marc:Yeah.

01:23:51Marc:I was like, I know who you are.

01:23:53Marc:Oh, okay.

01:23:54Marc:Just not at that time.

01:23:55Marc:No, I didn't.

01:23:56Guest:That was you.

01:23:57Guest:Yeah.

01:23:57Guest:Oh, sorry, buddy.

01:23:58Guest:No.

01:23:59Guest:Yeah.

01:23:59Guest:I was honored to move my suit for you.

01:24:01Guest:But thanks, pal.

01:24:02Guest:Yeah.

01:24:10Marc:that's it man he's selling out the entire state of hawaii that guy wow it was a nice to meet him nice guy solid dude so oh also there's still i believe there's still tickets for some shows i mean most most of the stuff sold out comedy works in denver september 21 and 22 uh if you're in denver and you want to see me i would grab those stand up live in phoenix arizona uh

01:24:35Marc:I would grab those.

01:24:37Marc:Also, I will be at the New York Comedy Festival Saturday, November 10th at the Beacon Theater.

01:24:43Marc:Buy tickets, but go to nycomedyfestival.com and get the link there.

01:24:48Marc:Don't just search it and end up at wherever it is.

01:24:51Marc:StubHub or whatever.

01:24:54Marc:And then ask me, why is it $2,000 for a seat?

01:24:57Marc:All right?

01:24:58Marc:Just go get the correctly priced ones for the event that's not sold out.

01:25:03Marc:And, you know, don't complain.

01:25:05Marc:All right?

01:25:06Marc:Okay.

01:25:07Marc:Should I play?

01:25:57Guest:Boomer lives.

01:26:21I'm tired, man.