Episode 908 - Sam Tripoli

Episode 908 • Released April 18, 2018 • Speakers detected

00:00:00Guest:Lock the gates!

00:00:09Marc:Alright, let's do this.

00:00:10Marc:How are you, what the fuckers?

00:00:12Marc:What the fuck buddies?

00:00:13Marc:What the fuckineers?

00:00:14Marc:What the fucksters?

00:00:15Marc:What the fuckadelics?

00:00:16Marc:How many of those do I have to do?

00:00:18Marc:I'm on the road.

00:00:20Marc:I'm not in the country.

00:00:21Marc:Not that that has any bearing on how many of those silly names for WTF listeners that I come up with, but I'm out of the country.

00:00:29Marc:I'm out of country.

00:00:31Marc:I'm out in the world.

00:00:33Marc:I was just in London.

00:00:34Marc:The last time I talked to you was when I was slightly nervous, maybe, maybe a bit full of anxiety and perhaps a little bit of dread about my London show at Royal Festival Hall, a large room down at the South Bank Center that seats about twenty five hundred or something.

00:00:54Marc:But I'm here to report because I know a lot of you are like, I wonder how it went for Mark over there.

00:00:59Marc:I wonder how Mark's doing in that other country.

00:01:02Marc:It went great.

00:01:04Marc:Had a great show.

00:01:05Marc:Josie Long opened for me.

00:01:06Marc:She was spectacular.

00:01:08Marc:Then I went out there.

00:01:09Marc:I sat down and I had them.

00:01:12Marc:You know what the deal was?

00:01:14Marc:Not only was I good, and you know I don't toot my own horn often.

00:01:20Marc:Look, I did what I do, but I was happy it went well.

00:01:23Marc:It was a great show.

00:01:24Marc:Everyone enjoyed it.

00:01:24Marc:People came from many different places around the countries here.

00:01:29Marc:But I think the trick was, and this is a rare bit of experience.

00:01:32Marc:Let me say before I go on much longer.

00:01:36Marc:that a couple of things sam tripoli is on the show today and that's a handful that's a lot to deal with that was a lot for both of us i think that was sam tripoli is you got you just gotta you gotta sort of strap in and you hold on to the sides of the chair a little bit but uh but it was good it was a long time coming you know i see sam a lot he's one of those cats who who i know from the comedy store

00:02:00Marc:I've known him for many years now, actually.

00:02:03Marc:We don't hang out, but I know him.

00:02:05Marc:You know, I remember when he was going through some trouble with the drinky.

00:02:09Marc:And, you know, I've just seen him around.

00:02:11Marc:It was one of those things where I'm like, yeah, man, I got to have you on.

00:02:13Marc:I got to have you on.

00:02:14Marc:And then it just finally happened.

00:02:16Marc:Years after the day I first said, you got to do the show.

00:02:20Marc:So Sam's on today.

00:02:21Marc:It was a good conversation.

00:02:22Marc:We travel some distances.

00:02:24Marc:He's a manic cat.

00:02:27Marc:with some big ideas, some of them sort of twisted and gnarled that traversed the conspiracy arc.

00:02:36Marc:Yeah, we discussed that.

00:02:38Marc:You know, I try to keep that out of my head by choice.

00:02:42Marc:But what if it's true, man?

00:02:43Marc:You know, okay, maybe it's the what if that bothers me.

00:02:47Marc:I mean, you think about it, it makes sense.

00:02:49Marc:I don't know.

00:02:50Marc:Think about it, what if.

00:02:53Marc:I got too much imagination for that shit.

00:02:55Marc:Do you understand what I'm saying?

00:02:57Marc:Maybe it's vague to you now.

00:02:58Marc:Perhaps it'll become clearer in a few minutes.

00:03:01Marc:So London, little lesson I learned, and this is for anybody who's going to be playing a space.

00:03:09Marc:This is for anybody who might be performing in a room that has a wall-sized room.

00:03:17Marc:pipe organ on it.

00:03:19Marc:I mean, like the entire wall.

00:03:22Marc:I'm going to say probably 50 feet across, 20, 30 feet high of just a pipe organ, just the pipes for a pipe organ.

00:03:31Marc:Now I, and this is the rare thing, and it's a wisdom that, look, I'm not complaining.

00:03:38Marc:I'm just throwing this out there.

00:03:39Marc:If you happen to play, say, Symphony Hall,

00:03:44Marc:in San Francisco, you're going to be standing in front of a tremendous pipe organ.

00:03:50Marc:And I thought that show was good a couple years ago, but I didn't love it.

00:03:53Marc:I didn't feel, like, I felt dwarfed by the organ.

00:03:58Marc:I felt dwarfed by the expectations of the space, which I was projecting, obviously.

00:04:03Marc:A space is a space, but I believe that that space was accustomed to, you know, woodwinds and whatnot, which is going to be the name of some musicians' memoir.

00:04:14Marc:But here, well, when I was in London, I'm now in Sweden.

00:04:19Marc:I'm in Stockholm.

00:04:21Marc:Coming into the city, I wasn't like, wow, this is something.

00:04:25Marc:But now I'm like, yeah, it is.

00:04:27Marc:It's its own thing.

00:04:28Marc:It's charming.

00:04:29Marc:Architecture is interesting.

00:04:31Marc:The words are very funny.

00:04:32Marc:And I don't mean that in an insensitive way or a condescending way or a stupid American way.

00:04:36Marc:But I do like, I saw a word on a billboard

00:04:40Marc:And maybe I'm immature, but if I see the word F-A-R-T-E-N, I'm going to laugh a little because that says farting.

00:04:49Marc:How can you not laugh a little?

00:04:50Marc:Are you laughing a little in your car?

00:04:52Marc:It just said farting and it had the umlaut somewhere, but I like it and I see boats.

00:04:57Marc:So pipe organs, my advice to you is that if you have the option to have them drop a curtain in front of the wall of pipe organ, I would do that.

00:05:09Marc:I did that in London, and I think it made a big difference.

00:05:12Marc:Maybe not, but I did make the decision.

00:05:15Marc:I had the decision to make, and from my experience at Symphony Hall, my innate gut feeling that I'm being dwarfed by the possibility of that making noise that people would want to hear—

00:05:25Marc:I chose against it, and I feel like it helped my mind, and I think it helped the comedy.

00:05:30Marc:And I was able to pull the people in, make it an intimate space.

00:05:33Marc:So that show went great.

00:05:36Marc:And last night, we went to Sarah Kane, the painter.

00:05:39Marc:Sarah Kane, painter.

00:05:40Marc:Sarah the painter's opening at Timothy Taylor Gallery in London in the Mayfair area.

00:05:50Marc:Swanky.

00:05:51Marc:And that show is great.

00:05:52Marc:A lot of people came, a few weirdos, but that's to be expected.

00:05:57Marc:Art can be of any kind, can be sort of like one of those, like a light to light, like moths, like weirdo moths.

00:06:07Marc:Art brings people.

00:06:09Marc:But the show is great.

00:06:10Marc:Great response.

00:06:11Marc:Went out to an amazing dinner.

00:06:13Marc:I think it was a 27 course meal at a Peruvian restaurant.

00:06:17Marc:I didn't eat today and I felt like I wanted to die last night because I really felt like this was it.

00:06:23Marc:I just have to stop doing that.

00:06:26Marc:Eating.

00:06:27Marc:But the art was great.

00:06:28Marc:The response was great.

00:06:29Marc:If you are in London, you can go see the show for a couple months, I think, at Timothy Taylor Gallery.

00:06:34Marc:There's a nice hearty plug for my, what do we say now?

00:06:40Marc:I say girlfriend.

00:06:41Marc:Who says partner?

00:06:42Marc:Anybody?

00:06:42Marc:Partner?

00:06:43Marc:Don't like it.

00:06:44Marc:I don't like it.

00:06:45Marc:So I'm in Sweden, and if you're listening to this on Thursday and you're in Stockholm or nearby in one of the umlauted suburbs.

00:06:57Marc:Thursday, that's today, night, I'm performing here in Stockholm.

00:07:04Marc:I'll tell you, this is probably the fourth or fifth time.

00:07:06Marc:Oh, did I mention the glow?

00:07:08Marc:Back on the air, June 29th, man.

00:07:10Marc:Women, people, women.

00:07:13Marc:So that's happening.

00:07:15Marc:What was I talking about?

00:07:16Marc:Oh, I was saying that I'm enjoying being out of the country.

00:07:20Marc:I it's very it's relaxing to be out of America and the the sort of chaotic pace of what you put in your head on that continent.

00:07:30Marc:I know things aren't great in London, but it was great to be there because their problems weren't exactly my problems or our problems or the national problems that we experienced in the States.

00:07:41Marc:It's a relief.

00:07:42Marc:It's really a relief to be way up here in Sweden because I feel like I'm way far away.

00:07:47Marc:And I can feel that.

00:07:49Marc:I can feel the ease of my mind in the back of my neck.

00:07:54Marc:I'm not being strangled by the day's news and the constant chaos and possibility of a systemic breakdown, both me personally and the country.

00:08:07Marc:So it is relaxing.

00:08:10Marc:I realized the other day when I was in London and also before I left, I don't know if I had time, but I

00:08:14Marc:I know some people are probably were expecting me to to talk about the death of Mitzi Shore, the owner and really the the life source and overseer and creator.

00:08:30Marc:Of the Comedy Store.

00:08:31Marc:She passed away last week.

00:08:35Marc:And I didn't mention it.

00:08:37Marc:Yeah, I mentioned it on Twitter in one of my rare tweets.

00:08:41Marc:But she had a profound impact on my life.

00:08:43Marc:I can't say that I knew her.

00:08:44Marc:I don't know who did in recent years.

00:08:48Marc:I am going to be running an episode.

00:08:51Marc:Shortly with Eleanor Kerrigan, who's a comedian and was a waitress at the store and was sort of Mitzi's assistant for a while.

00:08:58Marc:We've talked a lot about Mitzi on this show.

00:09:01Marc:She definitely, as I said, that place and her.

00:09:05Marc:A lot of people, you know, talk to me.

00:09:07Marc:They ask me questions about the comedy store or about Mitzi.

00:09:11Marc:Like, you know, you must be sad or you probably, you know, are going to miss her or whatever.

00:09:15Marc:I didn't know her.

00:09:16Marc:I worked at the comedy store.

00:09:18Marc:I was there years ago and she was around, but I didn't know her then.

00:09:21Marc:They talk about the place and her like it's a normal situation, like this was a normal person or that comedians of that era

00:09:33Marc:And some now are living normal lives.

00:09:37Marc:I mean, that place was this very magical, dark, mystical castle for me.

00:09:43Marc:And I was out of my mind.

00:09:44Marc:And she was the queen of like a mythological universe that had complete power over my head and the head of many comics.

00:09:52Marc:It was outside of Hollywood.

00:09:54Marc:It was outside the realms of show business.

00:09:55Marc:It was its own planet, the comedy store.

00:09:58Marc:And she was the reigning deity.

00:10:02Marc:Some of the older guys knew her better.

00:10:04Marc:Some people had relationships with her, but I was there shortly when she was cognizant.

00:10:08Marc:I was there for a little under a year, and any exchange I had with her was deeply meaningful.

00:10:13Marc:You just ran around being afraid of running into her, and if you did, just hoping that she liked you and hoping she didn't take away your spots or tell you you couldn't work there anymore or won't let you work the door.

00:10:23Marc:You used to worry about not being able to do your door shift because you pissed her off.

00:10:28Marc:But you always thought she had the answers, the comedic answers.

00:10:32Marc:And she would give notes sometimes.

00:10:34Marc:And I've told this story many times before.

00:10:36Marc:Before I got all fucked up on drugs and I was just a hungry, wide-eyed, slightly drugged up, aggravated Jewish kid who had come in from New Mexico and

00:10:48Marc:She did see me do comedy and you just really want her to say something to you.

00:10:51Marc:And as some of you know, you've heard this story.

00:10:53Marc:She said, you're a poet.

00:10:55Marc:You should wear a scarf on stage.

00:10:58Marc:Barely doing a good Missy impression.

00:11:00Marc:You're a poet.

00:11:02Marc:You should wear a scarf on stage.

00:11:06Marc:And.

00:11:07Marc:I was like, thank you.

00:11:08Marc:Thank you, Mitzi.

00:11:09Marc:And I did.

00:11:10Marc:I did.

00:11:10Marc:I found a scarf.

00:11:12Marc:I wore it a bit.

00:11:13Marc:I think I have pictures of me on it.

00:11:15Marc:I promise you if I find the pictures of me wearing a scarf at the Comedy Store on Mitzi's recommendation, I will share them on my social media platforms.

00:11:27Marc:So, rest in peace, Mitzi Shore.

00:11:31Marc:You changed a lot of lives.

00:11:33Marc:For better or for worse.

00:11:35Marc:I will throw that in.

00:11:37Marc:I will.

00:11:38Marc:Sam Tripoli is...

00:11:41Marc:A unique person.

00:11:43Marc:A funny person.

00:11:45Marc:Very funny.

00:11:46Marc:Live Wire.

00:11:47Marc:Happy to have him here.

00:11:49Marc:I talked to him in... It's actually still another one of the old garage interviews.

00:11:55Marc:You can check out his podcasts, Punch Drunk Sports, and Tinfoil Hat with Sam Tripoli.

00:12:00Marc:Also, get his stand-up dates at samtripoli.com.

00:12:05Marc:This is me and the Sam Tripoli...

00:12:10Marc:Back in the old garage.

00:12:17Guest:How long have you lived here?

00:12:19Guest:In Los Angeles.

00:12:20Guest:I've been here since, I think, 2000.

00:12:22Marc:Really?

00:12:22Marc:Yeah.

00:12:23Marc:It's a long time already, huh?

00:12:25Guest:It flies, though, dude.

00:12:26Guest:It seems like yesterday.

00:12:27Guest:Does it?

00:12:28Guest:It seems like five years equals one year to me.

00:12:31Guest:I don't know why, but it just seems, maybe it's not three or four years.

00:12:34Marc:I guess it's true.

00:12:35Marc:Yeah, the last ten have gone by.

00:12:37Guest:And it goes really well, and you're expecting these things to happen, and it just blends, and it just goes, and the next thing you know, you are where you are.

00:12:45Guest:yeah yeah the thing doesn't happen it does happen it does happen or a different thing like what you wanted to happen all of a sudden 10 years down the line you're like i did a lot of shit yeah it means something i mean just think about when you started this that we're doing right now how like this really didn't exist like this medium of podcasting wasn't really there right i always had this theory like what if you were the greatest at something that's never been invented yeah like you are the greatest at before time travel

00:13:13Guest:Hide and go seek.

00:13:14Guest:You can hide better than any other time.

00:13:16Guest:But it hasn't been invented yet.

00:13:19Marc:I'm great at disappearing into Nazi Germany when the game started in caveman times.

00:13:26Guest:It doesn't exist, but here's this medium that showed up and now you've mastered it.

00:13:30Marc:Yeah, well, I guess it's the ahead of your time thing.

00:13:33Marc:If you're ahead of your time and they don't have the resources, you're just a weirdo.

00:13:38Guest:By the way, you never want to be the first guy in the trailblazer.

00:13:41Guest:That guy usually dies a horrible death in obscurity.

00:13:45Guest:It's the third dude who comes in and collects all the glory, right?

00:13:47Marc:Yeah, exactly.

00:13:48Marc:There's always the genius behind the guy that makes it.

00:13:51Marc:The sad genius.

00:13:53Marc:It's like Friendster.

00:13:54Marc:That dude's got to be on suicide patrol all the time.

00:13:56Marc:I have no idea what happened to that dude.

00:13:58Marc:everybody was worked up about Friendster that was like that was really the first one yeah and I remember when I got here in 2002 I had to get on there yeah and I got on there and I didn't understand the point of it and then there's someone started imitating me on I had a fake account oh that's how you know you made it pretending to be me but that was 2002 I hadn't made it and I freaked out and I got a friend who's a lawyer and I got her involved in it and shut the guy it was that like I was like what the fuck is happening

00:14:24Marc:Now it happens.

00:14:25Marc:You're like, oh, this guy, another annoying asshole.

00:14:27Guest:Good for him.

00:14:28Guest:Yeah.

00:14:28Guest:I hope he doesn't get more popular than me.

00:14:30Guest:I've always wanted to start a fake profile account called Alternative Sam and just see who could get bigger.

00:14:35Guest:Why haven't you done it?

00:14:36Guest:Because I do a conspiracy podcast.

00:14:38Guest:You do?

00:14:38Guest:I love it, dude.

00:14:39Guest:I have such a great time doing it.

00:14:40Guest:What's that called?

00:14:41Guest:Tinfoil Hat with Sam Tripoli.

00:14:43Guest:When did you start that?

00:14:45Guest:uh the what the the version of it now started last march yeah and that how's it going i mean like for me it's doing great numbers you know for you you probably cry like what's wrong with my life what's the angle yeah what happened why did it go wrong uh yeah why are we down to 50 000 uh but it's great i just enjoy i've always been into it do you know when i started believing in conspiracies dude i i was sort of engaged with conspiracies back in the day and i've pulled out so yeah i want to know when did you start

00:15:15Guest:When they discovered the Iron Sheik and Hacksaw Jim Duggan drunk in a car together, and I was a huge wrestling fan, and I'm like, there's fucking, that's bullshit.

00:15:26Guest:Why are they hanging out together?

00:15:28Guest:They're supposed to be, he's a hero, he's a terrorist, and they're shit-faced, and I swear to God, that's why I go, oh man.

00:15:35Guest:It's all true.

00:15:36Marc:The Jews run the world.

00:15:37Guest:The Jews don't run the world.

00:15:38Guest:Luciferians run the world.

00:15:40Marc:Luciferians.

00:15:40Marc:Yeah, but they, listen.

00:15:42Marc:There's no Jewish Luciferians.

00:15:43Guest:I fight anti-Semitism all the time.

00:15:45Guest:My girlfriend's Jewish.

00:15:46Guest:Her family's all Hebrews.

00:15:47Guest:Love them all.

00:15:48Guest:Hebrews, yeah.

00:15:48Guest:The Hebrews, what do we call it?

00:15:49Guest:Sure, that's fine.

00:15:50Guest:If I call them Jews?

00:15:51Marc:I don't care what you call them.

00:15:52Guest:You know?

00:15:53Guest:I prefer fucking Jews.

00:15:55Guest:Yeah, I love fucking, I do love Jews.

00:15:57Guest:I watch Israeli fucking twerk videos all day, dog.

00:16:00Guest:Of Israeli troops twerking, they're fucking wonderful.

00:16:03Marc:But wait, who are the Luciferians?

00:16:05Guest:Well, it's my opinion that there is a group of people out there that use religion as kind of masks that walk amongst us.

00:16:14Guest:Yeah.

00:16:15Guest:So they'll be like, oh, I'm a Jewish, I'm Muslims, I'm all that, when really they're not.

00:16:19Guest:And they're into these, whatever you want to call them, dark art shit.

00:16:22Guest:Yeah.

00:16:23Guest:And that's really who runs everything.

00:16:26Guest:It's like there's these dark arts people who use this fucking really dark shit to do stuff.

00:16:31Marc:Do we know any of them?

00:16:32Marc:Have you named any of the dark arts folks?

00:16:35Guest:Or are they just nebulous?

00:16:38Marc:They're just around us?

00:16:39Guest:No, there's like the Rothschilds, and I hear that.

00:16:41Guest:But then the House of Sod, they're in on it.

00:16:43Guest:Then I found out about this really old ancient banking group from Italy that are now Muslims.

00:16:50Guest:So there's Muslims.

00:16:52Guest:Then the Vatican's really darkened to the whole shit.

00:16:55Marc:So you've really done your homework on this.

00:16:56Guest:I love it.

00:16:57Marc:I can read it and watch it and look at it all day.

00:17:00Marc:But do you ever study legitimate history?

00:17:03Marc:Such as?

00:17:03Marc:Well, I mean, do you put this stuff into context?

00:17:05Guest:I think that's the only way you could study this stuff.

00:17:08Marc:You just cherry pick this stuff and connect the dots.

00:17:10Guest:Like, what would be your real history that you think I should look into?

00:17:15Marc:No, what I'm saying is that, yeah, the secret societies and the banking families.

00:17:19Guest:Yes.

00:17:19Marc:That was a real thing.

00:17:20Guest:Right.

00:17:20Marc:You know, whether or not the torch has been passed in the exact same way through through like weird coded sacrifices or rituals.

00:17:32Marc:I don't I know that's where it gets a little dicey that, you know, over generations and centuries that you're saying it's a long game they play.

00:17:39Guest:It's not necessary.

00:17:40Guest:And it sounds crazy, but it's a long game.

00:17:42Marc:It's a long game.

00:17:43Marc:What I'm saying is that hasn't the control of large chunks of money and property always been by the few in small rooms with or without hats?

00:17:55Marc:Right.

00:17:56Marc:Right.

00:17:56Marc:Probably.

00:17:57Marc:So what I'm saying is does it have to be- No, they have hats for sure.

00:18:00Marc:Okay.

00:18:01Marc:So what I'm saying is like, is it always necessarily shrouded in mystery and ritual as opposed to just people, you know, doing what is necessary to hold on to massive wealth, which is usually owning politicians, owning armies, owning whatever.

00:18:18Guest:Okay, that's a great point.

00:18:20Guest:You're like, isn't this just human nature?

00:18:23Marc:No, it's like we know who they are.

00:18:25Marc:They're not hiding.

00:18:27Marc:But I think some people are hiding, though.

00:18:29Marc:You go to that big G8 or whatever it is.

00:18:32Marc:I mean, I know about the Bilderbergers and the Freemasons and the Illuminati and the Trilateral Commission and the Kissinger and the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers and whatever.

00:18:44Marc:Sure.

00:18:45Marc:I mean, I know about it as much as I know about it.

00:18:47Marc:Right.

00:18:47Marc:Do you know what I mean?

00:18:48Marc:Like I know about 33 degree masonry.

00:18:51Marc:I get it.

00:18:52Marc:You know, but like, yeah, you know, like sometimes you got to be careful in this day and age we live in, you know, conspiracy theories are a way for stupid people to seem smart and for uninformed people to get all worked up about stuff that might be bullshit.

00:19:06Marc:And then they kind of sacrifice their mental disposition to two negative forces who may be working at behest of the conspiracy.

00:19:14Marc:Okay.

00:19:14Marc:I get it.

00:19:14Guest:get what you're saying i'm not calling you stupid no for a moment i was like who's he talking about i did flunk first grade uh but that's fine it doesn't count you know here here's the thing i i you're totally right you're you're totally in on you're totally correct it's like maybe this is human nature maybe this has all existed but for me it's like what what is the truth though it's like right is it this weird shit that you go on a reddit you do this do this well that's what i'm saying

00:19:39Marc:I don't think it's human nature.

00:19:41Marc:I think it's how people how power works.

00:19:44Marc:Right.

00:19:44Marc:So it's not it's not essentially human nature.

00:19:46Marc:It's, you know, however civilization was put together and who put that together and however far you want to go back.

00:19:52Guest:Right.

00:19:53Marc:And whatever the legacy of those original Masons were, whatever.

00:19:56Marc:Did you ever see the man who would be king?

00:19:58Marc:Yeah.

00:19:58Marc:Right.

00:19:59Marc:So, you know, that's one of those like trippy.

00:20:01Marc:That's a great conspiracy book.

00:20:02Guest:I totally agree with what you're saying.

00:20:04Guest:Let's take this, the Iraq war of early in 2000s, right?

00:20:09Guest:This is all I'm talking about.

00:20:10Guest:And this is, we'll sum up exactly what I'm talking about.

00:20:13Guest:So we have this Iraq war.

00:20:14Guest:We are told of these weapons of mass destruction, which later on we find out is not true.

00:20:19Guest:And then Wesley Clark has that video where he talks about, you know, something.

00:20:22Guest:Sometimes if you're a hammer, everything's a nail, stuff like that.

00:20:26Guest:And you list all these countries, right?

00:20:29Guest:And then you kind of do a little more research and go, oh, all those countries also don't have centralized banks.

00:20:36Guest:And now after those groups, there's down to three of them that no longer have centralized banks.

00:20:40Guest:To me, that's what I find interesting.

00:20:43Guest:Is there a darker motive to what we're being told is going on?

00:20:47Marc:So you're saying the global banking cabal.

00:20:50Guest:yeah through the the cheney cult yes was making their move but i mean you know i'm not i mean i'm just right that to me i find interesting is what i like to interview like is there another motive is there a dark other than money other than money power and everything but the cell of patriotism oh right and propaganda right

00:21:09Guest:Yeah, and us having to be like, oh, man, we got to do this because it's a threat to us.

00:21:14Guest:And you have these hillbillies.

00:21:16Guest:America, you're going to fuck with America.

00:21:18Guest:You hit us and all this shit.

00:21:20Marc:Right, and they've just been sold out.

00:21:21Marc:They've been taken advantage of.

00:21:23Marc:Yeah, well, that happens.

00:21:24Marc:That interests me.

00:21:25Marc:Well, yeah, well, that's just dirty politics.

00:21:27Guest:That's fine.

00:21:28Guest:Then that's what I'm into.

00:21:29Marc:I love knowing the truth.

00:21:30Marc:And I'm not going to sit there like we're going to change it or follow the money.

00:21:33Guest:I just like to know about it.

00:21:35Marc:Yeah.

00:21:35Marc:Well, yeah, I mean that.

00:21:36Marc:But that's not so much conspiracy as it is that, you know, that it was a massive propaganda push to do a cash grab and just gut Iraq.

00:21:46Guest:But all the conspiracy is.

00:21:47Guest:two people conspiring to do something and that to me is like if 9-11 is an inside job and that's a whole different conversation if it is an inside job there's a conspiracy there and i enjoy looking into that and unboxing independent speculative investigators yeah that's what i used to call them i love it

00:22:05Marc:Sure.

00:22:05Marc:All right.

00:22:05Marc:Well, as long as it's a fun hobby for you.

00:22:08Marc:My problem is, is that, you know, you have two, you know, information realities.

00:22:13Marc:And, you know, if the propaganda is strong enough, which, you know, and has the right outlets and now that everything is bubble land and people can live in bubbles, is that, you know, what you have...

00:22:22Marc:The real problem becomes right now is that the truth becomes unstable.

00:22:27Marc:And people who maybe think along your lines go like, well, who's to say what the truth is?

00:22:31Marc:It's like, well, there is truth.

00:22:34Marc:And it can be assessed.

00:22:35Guest:Okay.

00:22:36Marc:But, you know, like, if you'd rather believe that Hillary Clinton is part of a satanic child molesting cult and you're pretty goddamn sure it's centered at a pizza place in D.C.

00:22:47Marc:and has to do with their chief of staff, then, like,

00:22:49Marc:Maybe we should investigate a little further before you just buy that shit hook, line, and sinker and maybe think that maybe someone might be fucking with your head with an agenda.

00:22:58Guest:Okay, I get what you're saying about that.

00:23:01Guest:So is it the pizza parlor that drives you crazy in that story?

00:23:03Guest:Because that's always what it is.

00:23:05Guest:They're like, okay, something's going down the pizza parlor.

00:23:07Guest:If you mark, if you took a little time because it's only speculative and just jumping in and mouthing off.

00:23:13Guest:Yeah.

00:23:13Guest:Because from your perspective, you haven't been investigating it.

00:23:18Guest:It's not because you're a busy man.

00:23:19Guest:You had your show going.

00:23:20Marc:But where is the information coming from that you're investigating?

00:23:23Marc:I'm telling you.

00:23:24Marc:You know that there are shit mills churning out garbage all day long for vulnerable people who think they're onto something to drag them into a certain way of thinking.

00:23:33Guest:I can completely understand what you're saying about that, Mark.

00:23:36Guest:But if let's say, let's take that part away, right?

00:23:39Guest:Let's take the Hillary, that part.

00:23:42Guest:Now, listen, man.

00:23:43Guest:mark you've known me granted we don't we don't hang out all the time we're passing ships in the night sure you know but for the most part i would say that our interaction is pleasant and i you know i i've always been treat you well never been an asshole all that shit i feel like we get you and i are yeah yeah no doubt say you're like hey sam a good guy i would say for the most part you'd be like oh he's a good guy i don't know him you know

00:24:08Guest:really super close but in my interactions with him it's been really well you know he seems to like being a little off in his head he's a little crazy people talks to himself a lot in the bathroom don't know why um doing a lot of research yeah doing a lot of research but it's very interesting that you know like and maybe it's not you let's say somebody else at the comedy store all right who is a good friend of mine thinks i'm a crazy person yet these people that they see on television that they don't even know at all yeah

00:24:33Guest:um they would take their word over that over over myself whereas i'm doing all this research independently on my own yeah a lot you know extensively well i'm just happy that you're not doing it on meth uh yeah and that you know you haven't ruined your relationship yet

00:24:50Guest:my whole thing is that i just love studying it i study history up to this point and use that history to project what i think and at the end of the day it is what it is and if there is any sort of thought that maybe this is real i just don't know why people don't investigate it and just do a real investigation on it

00:25:09Marc:But real investigating in the age we live in now, in where you get that information, what the outlets are, how is it sourced?

00:25:20Marc:Do documents, hey, they looked real, and this is an arrest record from wherever, but to actually do reporting and get out into the dirt and go look at public records and that stuff on your own, that's impressive.

00:25:32Marc:But just to sort of collect things from different sites that are purveying information...

00:25:38Guest:Why is that what's going on?

00:25:39Guest:Why?

00:25:40Guest:Why?

00:25:40Guest:And this is totally fine.

00:25:42Guest:You know, it's like, why is the notion that someone like a wolf blitzer is giving out real information?

00:25:47Marc:He's not a reporter.

00:25:48Marc:I mean, you know, it's like, you know, they, you know, they, you just have to believe that, you know, most of the time they're sourcing their, their work.

00:25:56Marc:Yeah.

00:25:56Guest:I mean, we are talking propaganda, right?

00:25:59Guest:Isn't that kind of what I've been talking about?

00:26:01Guest:Sure.

00:26:02Guest:Whether you're talking about it's politics or music or whatever.

00:26:06Guest:I'm all about it.

00:26:07Guest:do you play ball that's to me it's the it's the initiation whoever we're talking about whether it's in politics or or or in the music but who's who's the player are you saying the consumer me or you no no no the artist or the politician do they play ball do they play ball with the powers that be and what they want put out

00:26:28Marc:Well, yeah, I mean, but are you hip to the sort of L. Ron Hubbard?

00:26:33Guest:L. Ron Hubbard.

00:26:34Marc:The rocket scientist guy?

00:26:35Marc:Yes.

00:26:35Marc:You got that one going?

00:26:36Guest:And then, you know, the Laurel Canyon studio, which was a very, you know, like Jim Morrison's dad was involved very high up.

00:26:44Guest:Oh, the general?

00:26:44Guest:The general.

00:26:45Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:26:45Marc:Gulf of Tartans.

00:26:46Marc:All right, so you're going full out.

00:26:47Marc:Yeah, good.

00:26:48Marc:Have a good time.

00:26:49Yeah.

00:26:50Guest:And listen, man, it's not that I'm like, we've got to do it, and I'm throwing it in.

00:26:55Guest:I just love knowing about it.

00:26:57Marc:Yeah, no, I have the books.

00:27:00Marc:I've read the stuff.

00:27:01Marc:I was in the hole.

00:27:02Marc:I mean, if you can manage it.

00:27:03Marc:It's great.

00:27:05Marc:Well, good.

00:27:05Marc:I got to a point where it's sort of like I need to ground myself in something tangible in my own life and something true and not indulge it.

00:27:13Marc:You know, not true in the way that, you know, that stuff's all very compelling.

00:27:19Marc:I love to connect the dots.

00:27:21Marc:Right.

00:27:22Marc:But what I what I start to fear in talking about it is like, are we diminishing or detracting from a clearer narrative about what's really happening?

00:27:33Guest:Okay, I understand what you're saying.

00:27:36Guest:I think that our ability to keep the eye on the ball affects the rest of the world.

00:27:43Marc:Who's me and you?

00:27:45Guest:No, me, you, all your listeners, everybody who lives in this.

00:27:48Guest:The eye on the ball.

00:27:49Guest:The eye on the ball.

00:27:51Guest:And who's playing ball?

00:27:52Guest:Well, okay.

00:27:53Guest:So how many wars are we in right now?

00:27:55Guest:Five, six.

00:27:56Guest:How many of them are approved by Congress?

00:27:58Guest:Two.

00:27:59Guest:And now we're thinking about going to North Korea, Venezuela.

00:28:02Guest:Like, our number is getting up to eight.

00:28:04Guest:Eight people.

00:28:05Marc:Yeah, it's a whole business unto itself.

00:28:08Marc:We're just being distracted by bullshit.

00:28:10Guest:We're getting into Hitler numbers, okay, of people we've invaded.

00:28:13Guest:To me...

00:28:15Marc:all under the pretense that we're bringing freedom democracy to people when i think we bring a lot of chaos destruction that's not even the pretense anymore with this guy for me they don't they he's they've outwardly said that is not our agenda anymore we're going to close down the state department who are we to impose democracy on these nice men who kill their own people

00:28:34Guest:I think if you think at that highest level, if you think one side is good, one side's bad, I think... I'm not saying good or bad.

00:28:42Marc:I'm saying there's a policy change that spreading democracy is no longer... There is an outward policy change, an open policy change.

00:28:49Guest:I think the problems between the D's and the R's is that one group can be more honest with what they're doing and the other one has to do it behind the thing because they're playing to a base that's about inclusion, love...

00:29:01Guest:equality, everybody getting the love, there's enough for everybody, let's all work together.

00:29:06Guest:Yeah.

00:29:06Guest:And behind closed doors, they can't do that because that is not what is going on.

00:29:10Guest:Like, what they're calling out Trump right now on the Russia stuff, to me, they have to have that because what they would call him out on real shit, which is war...

00:29:19Guest:spying, all that stuff is what you could say about any president before him and the people above him.

00:29:25Guest:I just personally think we went from two wars to five wars under Obama.

00:29:29Guest:We're going to go to five wars to seven wars, probably under Trump.

00:29:33Guest:And I just think that we're doing bad shit to the rest of the world because

00:29:37Guest:We are too busy on our phones or we don't want to investigate this and we're spread thin and we're so busy that we just want to know what's going on.

00:29:45Guest:So we turn on the tube and somebody like Rachel Maddow or somebody like Wolf Blitzer or Sean Hannity tells us something and we want to believe it's true because...

00:29:55Guest:One, a lot of people have children.

00:29:57Guest:Two, we're too busy and we don't want to believe that we're part of this fucking empire shit.

00:30:02Guest:And that's just my kind of opinion.

00:30:03Marc:So I love- Well, yeah, no, I think that part of that is true.

00:30:07Marc:And I think that, yeah, I think that people are distracted and finding the real information is difficult.

00:30:12Marc:And a lot of people aren't interested if it doesn't affect their life directly.

00:30:15Marc:Yeah.

00:30:16Marc:I think that this country usually functions by enough people being okay with

00:30:21Marc:To not question.

00:30:22Marc:And, you know, I agree with that.

00:30:24Marc:But I do believe that, you know, you can like you.

00:30:26Marc:And I think you're basically saying this, that if you find your sources and you believe your sources and you think that they are justified and doing real work, then then, you know, those are the sources you're going to choose.

00:30:39Guest:For me, it's like study history to see human behavior, how people react and how people act, what they're looking for, whether they want, whether their goals.

00:30:49Guest:And then as you move forward, apply it to what you've learned.

00:30:52Guest:Does this fit human nature?

00:30:54Guest:Does this fit how people have acted in the past that have been in the same position, their goals and what they want?

00:31:01Guest:Does this make sense?

00:31:02Guest:And that's all I kind of do is like follow, use the past to prove the future.

00:31:06Guest:And that's kind of what I do.

00:31:08Guest:okay so that's your job you're a prophet it's it's not a prophet it's just like i just i just i can't get this i just enjoy studying it i have no one did you start like where'd you like let's go back so what what did you study in college i i mark for me man i've been wanting to be a i've wanted to be a stand-up comic from the moment i knew i existed i didn't know it was a job where'd you grow up upstate new york

00:31:31Guest:Upstate?

00:31:32Guest:Outside Syracuse, a place called Cortland, New York to 607.

00:31:35Guest:Really?

00:31:36Guest:I wasn't good at anything.

00:31:37Guest:Big family?

00:31:39Guest:Me, my brother, my mother, my father.

00:31:41Guest:My brother was the number one high school bowler in New York State.

00:31:44Guest:Bowler?

00:31:45Guest:Yeah, he could bowl 300s with both hands, which where I'm from, that's water walking shit.

00:31:50Guest:That's some rock and bowl Jesus stuff.

00:31:51Marc:Yeah, does he still bowl?

00:31:53No.

00:31:53Guest:No, he gave it up.

00:31:54Guest:I don't know what it was.

00:31:55Guest:I think my brother got everything so quickly that he kind of was over it.

00:31:59Marc:Yeah.

00:31:59Marc:He just quit bowling.

00:32:01Marc:Not even for fun.

00:32:01Guest:The best I've ever seen, dude.

00:32:04Guest:I mean, could take his hand, either hand, throw a ball out, get a strike.

00:32:08Guest:I mean, he was a 15-year-old man who was idolized by 40-year-olds just because he was that good at bowling.

00:32:15Guest:He was just great at it.

00:32:16Marc:And at some point, he just turned his back on it.

00:32:18Guest:He got a full ride at Wichita State.

00:32:21Guest:Never took it.

00:32:22Guest:Yeah, never took it.

00:32:23Marc:I didn't even know that was an option at college where you get a bowling scholarship.

00:32:27Guest:Yeah, bowling is a big deal, dude.

00:32:28Guest:It is?

00:32:29Guest:It is, man.

00:32:30Guest:Think about it, dude.

00:32:31Guest:I'm thinking about it.

00:32:32Guest:If you think about the NBA, the NFL, all that stuff, there is a small group of people that can actually get those jobs.

00:32:38Marc:Right.

00:32:39Marc:If you're a bowler, if you work hard.

00:32:41Marc:If they're willing to play ball.

00:32:42Guest:Yeah, if they're willing to play ball.

00:32:44Guest:There you go, dude.

00:32:46Guest:If you're a bowler, you're up against the population.

00:32:48Guest:Everybody can bowl.

00:32:50Guest:And everybody can go for it.

00:32:51Guest:Sure.

00:32:51Guest:Just didn't want to do it, man.

00:32:53Guest:Huh.

00:32:53Guest:But for me, I- What did he end up doing?

00:32:55Guest:Running strip bars, you know?

00:32:57Guest:Really?

00:32:58Guest:Yeah.

00:32:58Guest:My mom hooked up with my dad, who was what they were called a slicker back in the day.

00:33:03Guest:You remember the outsiders?

00:33:05Guest:Yeah.

00:33:05Guest:All those slickers.

00:33:06Guest:That was my dad growing up.

00:33:07Guest:And my mom was a police officer's daughter.

00:33:11Guest:Like the bad boy, put out two knucklehead kids, man.

00:33:14Guest:And you know, it's ever, that's ever.

00:33:16Guest:What'd your dad do?

00:33:17Guest:My dad gave me two things, man.

00:33:20Guest:My sense of humor and the work ethic.

00:33:21Guest:He worked really hard.

00:33:22Guest:My dad had a bunch of jobs.

00:33:24Guest:He owned property, was a teacher, was a real estate agent.

00:33:28Guest:I just always watched him work hard.

00:33:32Guest:Work hard, man.

00:33:33Guest:And I kind of gleaned that from him.

00:33:35Guest:And your mom?

00:33:35Guest:teacher yeah she taught they were both teachers man you know so i grew up and i from the moment i knew i exist i wanted to be a comic and i remember getting funniest guy in sixth grade and i'm the only person who ever went into high school maybe i wasn't but i wanted i only cared about being class what kind of name is tripoli it's italian but i'm half armenian half italian

00:33:54Marc:Armenian on which side?

00:33:56Guest:On my mother's side, Bedorians.

00:33:58Marc:Bedorians?

00:33:59Marc:Yeah.

00:34:00Marc:Did you have a lot of Armenian family?

00:34:02Guest:I had a lot of Armenian family.

00:34:03Guest:They lived in the neighborhood?

00:34:04Guest:They lived in Niagara Falls.

00:34:06Guest:There was a big Armenian community.

00:34:07Guest:For some reason, my grandmother never passed on Armenian language to my mother, or she did, but they never passed on to me.

00:34:15Guest:They were from a different generation.

00:34:17Guest:where they basically, it was about assimilation instead of now where it's kind of like carve your niche and stay.

00:34:26Marc:Everyone wanted to pass.

00:34:28Guest:Yeah, everybody wanted to be American.

00:34:31Guest:And a lot of people who had the Tripoli last name changed their name to like Triple or something like that.

00:34:36Guest:Whereas my family kept their name.

00:34:37Guest:Yeah, Trippi or something like that.

00:34:39Guest:And my family stayed with Tripoli.

00:34:42Guest:yeah but i yeah the armenians what's the religion of the armenians christian we were the first country to ever adopt christianity as its national religion armenia armenia and it's very interesting because uh for about 16 years i've been doing a giant event at the comedy store in the main room yeah a cousin of mine a leak got a bone marrow cancer and they couldn't find a match for the meaning armenian

00:35:04Guest:guy yeah armenian woman i mean lady she's gonna be a doctor right and then uh she uh she couldn't find a match because armenians have a very unique genetic makeup and it's basically because armenia is surrounded by muslim countries and there was no interaction so armenians which is this very tiny area yeah just hooked up with other armenians yeah so basically we're the hillbillies yeah you know a lot of like

00:35:29Marc:So you're saying there was a lot of cross-pollination, a lot of... Or not cross-pollination, just hooking up with our own.

00:35:35Marc:But that, I mean, that happens, but did they pace it out right at least?

00:35:38Marc:Or was there someone in charge of like... Not your cousin, you know?

00:35:41Marc:What, I mean, are there genetic problems?

00:35:44Marc:Yeah, that's why it's hard to find... But that's just a specific genetic type.

00:35:48Marc:Are you saying that there's a genetic weakness across the board?

00:35:52Guest:Yeah, within Armenians, which is why they have to do these...

00:35:56Guest:They started this, Dr. Frida Jordan and my cousin started, my cousin Michelle Topalian started the Armenian bone marrow registry.

00:36:06Guest:And like I got picked up at the comedy store, I think about 2000.

00:36:10Guest:And then three or four years later, I found out my cousin had bone marrow cancer and I go, how can I help?

00:36:16Guest:And they're like, well, could you help us raise money?

00:36:18Guest:So I put this huge event on in the main room.

00:36:22Guest:It's like probably the oldest running show there, even though it's only once a year.

00:36:25Guest:It's the oldest running show.

00:36:26Guest:And we sell it out every year.

00:36:28Guest:And they raise money.

00:36:29Guest:And it's like this weird charity where you can actually see the fruits of your labor.

00:36:33Guest:Like, you know, sometimes I'll do charity events.

00:36:35Guest:I'm like, hope that money gets to whoever needs it.

00:36:38Guest:But they build a giant facility in Armenia.

00:36:41Guest:They've had a bunch of like connects where these people...

00:36:44Guest:You know, connected with someone with their blood type and bone marrow type.

00:36:47Guest:And so it's been pretty cool, man.

00:36:49Guest:That's great.

00:36:50Guest:Yeah.

00:36:50Guest:Doing good in the world.

00:36:51Guest:I try.

00:36:52Guest:It's my, I call it my karma show.

00:36:54Guest:Good.

00:36:54Guest:And for a while, everybody who did it, I could see who was going to blow up.

00:36:57Guest:They do it.

00:36:57Guest:And all of a sudden, boom, they became huge.

00:36:59Marc:Oh, is that true?

00:37:00Guest:Yeah.

00:37:01Guest:When he comes, it blew up.

00:37:02Guest:El Magical did it, got picked up as a regular comedy store.

00:37:05Marc:You think it's the magic of your show?

00:37:07Guest:I think it's just my vision, doc.

00:37:09Guest:No, I just luck.

00:37:11Marc:We're all going to find out by the end of this podcast that Sam Tripoli is secretly running everything.

00:37:16Marc:Yes!

00:37:17Marc:He's running...

00:37:18Guest:The pyramid scheme?

00:37:19Marc:It's like me and Queen Elizabeth?

00:37:22Marc:He's at the top.

00:37:22Marc:He's right up there with the Bilderbergers.

00:37:25Marc:He's the one above the 1%.

00:37:27Marc:Sam Tripoli.

00:37:27Guest:Dude, there's snipers everywhere around here.

00:37:29Guest:Sure, buddy.

00:37:29Guest:There's blocks on lockdown.

00:37:30Marc:Yeah, but you don't see him.

00:37:31Marc:That's how fucking deep state you are.

00:37:33Guest:Yeah, they're shapeshifters, dude.

00:37:34Marc:Yeah, shapeshifters are protecting Sam as he moves through.

00:37:37Marc:My podcast is loved by the reptilians, dude.

00:37:39Marc:Sure, the reptilians.

00:37:41Marc:Pull up those masks, fellas.

00:37:42Marc:We want to see what's underneath.

00:37:44Guest:I'm super excited to be on.

00:37:46Marc:Are you?

00:37:46Guest:Yeah, man.

00:37:47Guest:I feel like you've had everybody but me.

00:37:49Guest:I feel like you just had the dishwasher from the comedy store on.

00:37:52Marc:I can get him on.

00:37:53Marc:Can you text me?

00:37:54Marc:Yeah, he's in.

00:37:55Marc:Juan, get down here.

00:37:59Marc:I don't know.

00:37:59Marc:You fell through the cracks.

00:38:00Marc:I don't know what happened.

00:38:02Guest:I guess I'm a crazy person.

00:38:03Marc:No.

00:38:04Marc:There's other people.

00:38:05Marc:I get it.

00:38:08Marc:All right, so let's go back, though.

00:38:10Marc:So you grew up in upstate.

00:38:11Marc:Yeah.

00:38:11Marc:Your brother gives up bowling.

00:38:13Marc:The family's, like, can't understand it.

00:38:15Marc:Yeah, nobody can.

00:38:15Marc:He just went out.

00:38:16Marc:And then for, like, for years, he was just in Siberia or just didn't, like, know what the hell he was going to do.

00:38:21Guest:He is a rolling stone.

00:38:24Guest:Yeah.

00:38:25Guest:He just loves to move around and do his own thing.

00:38:27Marc:Yeah.

00:38:28Guest:You know, neither of us had kids, so I feel bad for my mom.

00:38:30Guest:And sometimes I get frustrated, like, have a kid for her, you know?

00:38:33Marc:Is he married?

00:38:34Guest:No.

00:38:34Guest:He just likes to roam, dude.

00:38:36Marc:And he manages strip clubs.

00:38:38Guest:Yeah.

00:38:38Guest:He manages strip clubs.

00:38:40Guest:He kind of flips them.

00:38:41Guest:His job is to go into ones that aren't doing well and flip them.

00:38:43Marc:Oh, so he's a strip club wizard.

00:38:45Guest:Yeah, strip club wizard.

00:38:47Marc:Yeah, dude, for sure.

00:38:49Marc:And when you graduated high school, you didn't have a plan?

00:38:53Marc:What did you do?

00:38:54Guest:I wanted to be a stand-up.

00:38:55Marc:I get it, but did you go to college or anything?

00:38:57Guest:I went to UNLV.

00:38:58Guest:I thought, well, basically, it's very funny.

00:39:00Guest:My father, over time, worked to me in convincing me I should move to Vegas because he's like, yeah, you should go to school.

00:39:07Guest:Go to Vegas.

00:39:08Guest:Because you wanted to be a comic?

00:39:10Guest:Because I thought it would be a great place to start.

00:39:13Guest:I don't know why, but you'd always hear people like, oh, he's playing Vegas.

00:39:17Guest:All the greats play.

00:39:18Guest:I'm like, oh, I'll go to Vegas.

00:39:19Guest:My father was pushing me, and little did I know they wanted to go out there and buy a house that I would rent out, and they could use it as a business expense to go gamble all the time.

00:39:29Guest:that was his plan he had a long game dog a long game right and that's all he does now he lives in Prescott Arizona he gambles all day and that's he calls me from the office this is the Indian casino he's at and he lives a life where's your mom my mom still lives in Cortland my dad lives in upstate New York so they he split

00:39:47Guest:yeah they split up and me like the day after my brother graduated high school and left for arizona to go to asu my mom was like boom get out dude i and my foot my poor father just wandered and then why was he like a pain in the ass the whole way through was he a gambling sick gambler i think my father you know my father is like 75 i think right now

00:40:10Guest:You know, he's from that generation where you just get married, have kids and, you know, and it's just like he's not that he didn't want to do that.

00:40:17Guest:You know, I think he just wanted to be like a like my brother, a Rolling Stone, just like go live his life, have fun, bang chicks and, you know, party and all that stuff.

00:40:26Guest:But that wasn't what you did back then.

00:40:28Guest:You know, like then it was like get married, have kids.

00:40:31Marc:And there are always people that did that.

00:40:32Guest:I think they were, and I think my dad did that on the side.

00:40:36Guest:Right.

00:40:36Guest:I don't think he was perfect.

00:40:37Guest:Right.

00:40:38Guest:And when my parents got divorced, my dad jumped all right into it.

00:40:42Guest:I mean, my brother jumped in the middle of it with trying to sell things, and I'm like, nah, dude.

00:40:48Guest:I don't want to know any of it.

00:40:50Guest:I love you both.

00:40:51Guest:Get it over with.

00:40:52Guest:Get divorced.

00:40:53Guest:I don't want to know.

00:40:54Guest:And I love my dad to death.

00:40:57Guest:I knew he was a shady motherfucker.

00:40:58Guest:You know what I'm saying?

00:40:59Guest:I just didn't need to know about it because I didn't want my dad not to be in my life.

00:41:04Guest:So I'm like, he's not perfect.

00:41:05Guest:And as you grow older as a man, because you know, you love your mom.

00:41:10Guest:You grow up, that's your mom.

00:41:12Guest:You do anything for your mother.

00:41:14Marc:I don't know.

00:41:14Marc:Both of them are draining to me.

00:41:16Guest:Really?

00:41:16Guest:But at no point when you were a really young kid, did you just not love your mom with all your heart?

00:41:22Marc:No, I don't think we had the same situation.

00:41:25Guest:And that's definitely true.

00:41:26Guest:But I feel like for me, I love my mom with all my heart.

00:41:28Guest:Yeah, sure.

00:41:29Guest:And my dad was like, oh, my dad...

00:41:31Guest:be nice to mom you know right and then you grow older and you start interacting with women your own life and you're like oh now i get what dad was talking about yeah yeah these chicks are fucking crazy and they're not perfect and i'm not perfect but how did but so what you so you think your mom was fucking crazy no my mom's one of the most loving people but i know interacting with a woman no matter how nice they are there's one guy that's just like tired of hearing about it

00:41:54Guest:You know what I'm saying?

00:41:55Marc:Yeah, no, no.

00:41:55Marc:Everyone's got their trouble.

00:41:57Marc:So you're saying to me, you know, not all women are crazy, but their relationships are difficult.

00:42:02Guest:No women are crazy.

00:42:03Marc:Everybody's crazy.

00:42:04Marc:That's right.

00:42:06Marc:And I'm not just trying to correct it for the sake of being correct.

00:42:10Marc:It's just that, like, I tend to do that.

00:42:12Marc:You know, I tend to be like, oh, she was crazy.

00:42:14Marc:And, you know, she's got problems.

00:42:16Marc:I got problems.

00:42:17Marc:Yeah, we're all nuts.

00:42:17Marc:Yeah, you know, they work for a while.

00:42:19Marc:Hey, isn't this fun?

00:42:20Marc:We're both fucked up.

00:42:21Marc:And then somebody's got to pull out.

00:42:22Marc:Somebody's got to pull out.

00:42:23Guest:because we're going down yeah the train the plane's going down someone's got eject now my girlfriend who i love with all my heart is a ride or die bitch you know what i'm saying like she's been through you know it's like my partying and all that shit you know she's been through all that she's a great person she drives me fucking nuts but she's a great person you know you've been with her that long 15 years

00:42:47Marc:Wow.

00:42:48Marc:Yeah.

00:42:48Marc:But you're, but I think the point is, that's interesting is that, you know, whoever you demonize growing up or whatever, you know, that you're choosing to draw a line with how much you really wanted to know about your old man, just so, you know, you didn't take sides or, or, or, you know, not have a relationship with him that you're realizing as you get older, it's like, all right, I understand a little bit more, not just because not as some outside observer, but you've got him in you.

00:43:12Marc:Yeah.

00:43:13Oh,

00:43:13Guest:Dude, 100%.

00:43:15Guest:There was a point in my life where I go, oh, man, I'm turning into my old man.

00:43:20Marc:Yeah.

00:43:22Marc:What were you doing?

00:43:24Marc:Like, were you the stripper?

00:43:26Marc:Were you gambling?

00:43:27Guest:No, it was this notion that everybody was jealous of me and holding me back from success.

00:43:34Guest:And, you know, that weird moment you have where it's like.

00:43:36Guest:Paranoia.

00:43:37Guest:Yeah, this paranoia that was instilled in me as a child, you know, from my dad all the time.

00:43:42Marc:What do you think?

00:43:42Guest:He's like, oh, these guys hate me because I'm doing this so well.

00:43:45Guest:I'm killing it.

00:43:46Guest:And everybody hates me.

00:43:47Guest:And like, I remember hearing that over and over.

00:43:50Guest:I'm like, man, you got to get along with people.

00:43:53Guest:I remember thinking as a kid, because some of our neighbors wanted to work with my dad on a real estate project.

00:43:57Guest:And he was like, I don't know.

00:43:58Guest:I'm like, dad, you have to work with people.

00:44:01Marc:Yeah.

00:44:01Marc:He thought everyone was out to fuck him?

00:44:04Yeah.

00:44:04Guest:And they were all jealous of his fucking... Of what?

00:44:07Guest:Of his success and his ability to do shit.

00:44:10Guest:Was he successful?

00:44:11Guest:He was a great real estate agent.

00:44:13Guest:My dad was, like I said, a super hustler.

00:44:16Marc:So it was hyper-competitive.

00:44:18Guest:super competitive and he got and i would talk i talked to him later about that and he goes well that was my father my father was like that too and he installed and it's just this weird cycle of life well through me you know my life i've you know i've gone through stitch where i had to look at myself and be like why is this happen what what's going on my life you know i write down what my resentments are in life and i yeah i find the common theme is me and

00:44:44Guest:And I start realizing the most freeing thing I've ever learned through recovery is that nobody's thinking of me.

00:44:50Guest:And it sounds like you're alone, but it's the most freeing shit in the world where you've come.

00:44:55Guest:Yeah, because you know what they're thinking about?

00:44:57Guest:Themselves.

00:44:58Guest:100%.

00:44:58Marc:So you're saying it's freeing to realize that you're making up most of what you think other people are thinking.

00:45:06Guest:And there's this like, oh, dude, fuck Sam Tripoli.

00:45:08Guest:And there's these meetings, the fuck Sam Tripoli meetings.

00:45:11Marc:Are they part of the conspiracy?

00:45:13Marc:No.

00:45:14Marc:The fuck Sam Dripley meeting.

00:45:15Guest:No, no, I wish.

00:45:16Guest:Have you done research on this?

00:45:17Guest:Yeah, I've done research.

00:45:18Guest:Nobody gives a fuck.

00:45:19Guest:Nobody gives a fuck.

00:45:20Guest:Do you want to hear a great story, dude, about how mentally crazy I was?

00:45:24Guest:I remember when I moved to LA, I came from Vegas, and Vegas at that time was like its own little island of comedy.

00:45:31Guest:It had no interaction.

00:45:32Marc:I had no desire to be part of it.

00:45:34Guest:but but as a coming up you had no clue about the rest of the world so you were just doing your own thing and we couldn't get hired at any of the local comedy clubs because they would just fly locals in from LA it was nothing back then so we couldn't even get up so we had to do our own thing so like when I started doing comedy in LA I'm in Vegas there was one open mic every other week right

00:45:56Guest:So I started making my own shows, and I got all these different shows.

00:45:59Guest:So I had a show every night doing my own thing, hosting my own thing.

00:46:02Guest:I come to L.A., and I showcase for the Montreal Comedy Festival.

00:46:06Guest:I don't even know what it is.

00:46:09Guest:People are like, you got to showcase.

00:46:11Guest:I'm like, okay, I'll showcase.

00:46:12Guest:And I tap into something...

00:46:14Guest:that I have now that I didn't have then.

00:46:17Guest:And I blow it up.

00:46:19Guest:You're going to the Montreal Comedy Festival.

00:46:20Guest:I'm like, oh, that's cool.

00:46:21Guest:I don't even know what the fuck it is, but I'm going.

00:46:24Guest:So I go there, and I'm following Corey Holcomb on stage, who at that time I think was a 20-year vet.

00:46:30Guest:I don't even know how old Corey Holcomb is.

00:46:32Guest:He could be 1,000 years old at this point.

00:46:34Guest:But he's been doing it forever.

00:46:36Guest:Crush, I bomb.

00:46:38Guest:I'm in front of this comic, this lady at Fox named Ann Manny, who's a wonderful person.

00:46:44Guest:I bombed in front of her, and I am consumed now with getting in front of her and showing her that wasn't me.

00:46:51Guest:I'm a better comic than that, and I want to fucking show you how great I am, right?

00:46:55Guest:Yeah.

00:46:55Guest:So for two years, I am consumed with getting in front of Anne Manny's shoulder that Montreal isn't who I am.

00:47:01Guest:I work my ass up.

00:47:01Guest:I come back from Montreal dead in the water.

00:47:04Guest:Nobody wants to do anything with me.

00:47:05Guest:The only person who cared for me was Mitzi Shore.

00:47:08Guest:She was the only one that would give me spots, and I was able to work through my shit.

00:47:11Guest:This was what year?

00:47:12Guest:This is like 2001, 2002.

00:47:13Guest:So she's still mentally there for the most part.

00:47:16Guest:Holding on.

00:47:17Guest:Yeah.

00:47:17Guest:But the Comedy Store isn't what it is then.

00:47:19Guest:It is its own way, its own island.

00:47:22Guest:Where what happened at the Comedy Store stays at the Comedy Store.

00:47:24Guest:Sure, sure, sure.

00:47:24Guest:And nobody gave a fuck.

00:47:25Guest:Back in the day.

00:47:26Guest:Yeah.

00:47:27Marc:The Tommy Time, was that?

00:47:28Marc:No, it was Tommy Duncan.

00:47:28Guest:No, it was before Tommy Time.

00:47:29Marc:Was Duncan booking?

00:47:31Marc:It was at the end of Duncan.

00:47:33Marc:Yeah, yeah.

00:47:33Guest:And then we got into Tommy was after that.

00:47:35Guest:But nothing, you know, nobody was there.

00:47:37Guest:And I was just able to work through this thing.

00:47:40Guest:She saw you?

00:47:42Guest:I saw her.

00:47:43Guest:She hadn't seen me yet.

00:47:43Guest:Two years later, I get a call from Oz Jabrani because I was in this Arabian night show after 9-11.

00:47:48Guest:It was before 9-11.

00:47:50Guest:Mitzi's like, Arab's going to need a fucking voice of comedy.

00:47:54Guest:And put it together.

00:47:56Guest:That's how I got into comedies.

00:47:57Marc:You were doing that pre-9-11?

00:47:59Marc:Yeah.

00:48:00Marc:So 2000, you were with Maz and Aaron and Ahmed Ahmed.

00:48:04Marc:And the only reason I got in.

00:48:05Marc:That happened before 9-11?

00:48:06Marc:Yeah.

00:48:07Marc:Wow, trippy.

00:48:08Guest:Right?

00:48:08Guest:She's like, you guys, she goes, you guys are going to need a voice soon to fucking, right?

00:48:14Right.

00:48:14Marc:what the fuck right crazy like see now like in terms of conspiracy thinking like because most of where my conspiracy meltdown happened i wrote about it in my book was at the store when i was psychotic on cocaine yeah so i when trippy things trippy stories about the store they always kind of send me back like oh no yeah that's it that's witchcraft central over there yeah well dude yeah 100 chaos so i get it's so funny i showcase

00:48:39Guest:At the comedy store.

00:48:41Marc:After Maz, what?

00:48:41Guest:Maz called you and said- Maz and Duncan go, listen, there's a chance for us to get you in at the store.

00:48:46Marc:Yeah.

00:48:47Guest:We're putting together an Arab show.

00:48:48Guest:You're Armenian.

00:48:49Guest:I'm like, yeah.

00:48:50Guest:She's like, I'm like, but that's not Arab.

00:48:52Guest:They're like close enough.

00:48:53Guest:Yeah.

00:48:53Guest:So I remember going up and it was very interesting because Paul Mooney got me in at the store.

00:48:58Guest:I'd done a-

00:48:59Guest:I'd done a show at a place called the Hustler Cafe down the street.

00:49:03Guest:And I did a joke about how hard it is to be a white guy.

00:49:06Guest:And I got off stage.

00:49:06Guest:He's like, oh, you ain't white.

00:49:08Guest:You's Armenian.

00:49:09Guest:And he dropped an N-bomb on me.

00:49:10Guest:And I was like, damn, I just got called the N-word by Paul Mooney, dude.

00:49:14Guest:It's like a badge of honor, right?

00:49:16Guest:So I'm showcasing.

00:49:17Guest:People might not know this about the store, but...

00:49:19Guest:When you showcase at the store, it was so hard because people would hijack your showcase because they were trying to get spots.

00:49:25Guest:So they knew Mitzi would be there and they would sit down and they would try to talk to her, convince her to give him spots.

00:49:31Guest:And you do your set and she wouldn't even listen.

00:49:33Marc:Yeah.

00:49:33Marc:So you think that was because they were trying to hijack it?

00:49:35Marc:They were trying to get spots.

00:49:37Marc:I know, but why would they do that when you're on stage?

00:49:40Guest:Because when you're trying to get spots, you don't give a fuck.

00:49:42Guest:You're like, that's the one time.

00:49:43Marc:So you're just saying when she was in the room, people would distract her.

00:49:47Guest:Yes.

00:49:47Guest:Well, they would.

00:49:48Guest:try to get her ear to get spots.

00:49:50Marc:Whatever you want to call that, we'll label that.

00:49:52Guest:But it wasn't like, I'm going to fuck triple A. No, it wasn't like, I'll hijack.

00:49:55Guest:No, none of that shit.

00:49:56Marc:No, no.

00:49:57Marc:I mean, but they weren't doing it out of spite.

00:49:58Guest:They weren't like, oh, Sam's on stage.

00:50:00Guest:It's time to talk to her.

00:50:01Guest:The shadow people are going to love this.

00:50:03Guest:We're going to fuck him right now.

00:50:05Guest:So I'm doing my set.

00:50:07Guest:Now, Duncan calls me and he goes, okay, this is what you talk about.

00:50:11Guest:You do one joke about one of your parents, one joke about your ethnic group, and one joke about...

00:50:17Guest:your favorite joke and at a time it was my bit about uh uh asians on ecstasy yeah and the only reason i liked it is because joey diaz goes dog that's a great bit so i'm like okay i'm gonna do that so i did it i start doing my act i see paul mooney sitting down i'm like fuck but i'm just like screw it let's just do the best set we can so i do it i get off stage and um i walk up to her and she's like great set i'm like oh my god she listens she goes are you syrian and like i'm gonna be honest i didn't know what syrian was

00:50:46Guest:But I'm like, yeah, I'm fucking Syrian, dude.

00:50:49Guest:She's like, great.

00:50:50Guest:I want you to showcase one more time for Jay Davis' show.

00:50:53Guest:So that's how I got picked out.

00:50:54Guest:And it turned out that Paul Mooney was like, oh, Mitzi, he's really funny.

00:50:57Guest:You have to pick him up.

00:50:58Guest:He'd be great for the show.

00:50:59Guest:So I got picked up at the comedy store because of Paul Mooney, right?

00:51:03Guest:So for two years, I'm just gigging there, right?

00:51:05Guest:Maz calls me up.

00:51:05Marc:Thinking about Manning.

00:51:07Guest:Ann Manning.

00:51:07Guest:And Maz calls me up.

00:51:09Guest:Hey, I'm doing a showcase for Ann Manning.

00:51:11Guest:Do you want to do it?

00:51:11Guest:I'm like...

00:51:12Guest:it's time it's time yeah i'm strong okay yes so i take i go there and i destroy and here comes ann manny and i've been waiting for this moment two years two years yeah she walks up to me she goes hey man great set i'm like oh my god thank you she goes have you ever been to the montreal comedy festival i

00:51:35Guest:I go, what?

00:51:37Guest:She goes, have you ever been to Montreal?

00:51:38Guest:You do great there.

00:51:40Guest:She didn't even remember me.

00:51:41Guest:And that is my mind, like resentments and holding on to resentment.

00:51:46Guest:And that's when I realized over time that I was become my dad holding on to all these resentments for so fucking long.

00:51:52Marc:Well, yeah.

00:51:53Marc:And also the, the, the idea that, you know, that, that you had failed and that, you know, they were, you were being judged and that they were, that she at least once a day was going like that Tripoli sucks.

00:52:04Marc:Yeah.

00:52:04Guest:Every day, just throwing a fucking darts into a dartboard with my face.

00:52:09Guest:Or just even casually.

00:52:10Marc:You're just sitting there percolating.

00:52:12Marc:Boy, I wonder what happened to that guy that tanked.

00:52:14Marc:With her coffee.

00:52:15Marc:After Holcomb.

00:52:16Marc:Yeah, yeah.

00:52:17Marc:That Tripoli guy sure is terrible.

00:52:19Marc:Yeah, fuck him.

00:52:20Marc:That's funny.

00:52:20Marc:A lot of mental space.

00:52:21Marc:I was the same way.

00:52:22Marc:It took a lot of time, a lot of sobriety for that shit to ease up, for me to really realize it, that they're not thinking about you.

00:52:31Marc:But I'm the same way.

00:52:32Marc:We got a lot to prove.

00:52:34Guest:It's a crazy gig, right?

00:52:35Guest:Okay, so you finished college?

00:52:39Guest:Yeah, I got a degree in psychology, and I always knew I wanted to be a stand-up, but I had to go to college for my parents.

00:52:45Guest:And your dad bought the house out there?

00:52:46Guest:He never bought the house, because I knew I just, then I'm like, I don't want to get into business with my dad.

00:52:51Guest:I love him to death.

00:52:52Guest:I just don't want it, because this is not going to end well.

00:52:55Marc:So you didn't want to know about his fucking shitty past, and you don't want to get into business with him.

00:53:00Guest:Listen, man.

00:53:01Guest:I don't call it a shitty... I call it he's just a fucking human being.

00:53:04Marc:No, I get it.

00:53:04Marc:Okay, you do, but you didn't want to know too much.

00:53:07Guest:Yeah, I didn't want to get in the mix with it.

00:53:08Guest:And then you don't want to get in business with it.

00:53:09Guest:Yeah, I don't want to find out how the hot dogs are made.

00:53:11Guest:You know what I'm saying?

00:53:13Guest:You're one of the hot dogs.

00:53:14Guest:Yeah, I am one of the hot dogs.

00:53:16Guest:So I go to college.

00:53:19Guest:I have to get a degree.

00:53:20Guest:At that time, basic instinct and science of the lambs are big.

00:53:24Guest:And I see that these guys, they're in psychology and they can play with people's heads.

00:53:31Guest:And I go, I'm going to get a degree in that.

00:53:33Guest:I want to get a degree in psychology.

00:53:35Guest:And that's what I got.

00:53:36Guest:I ended up getting a degree in psychology.

00:53:37Marc:Because of silence of the lambs and basic instinct.

00:53:39Marc:I had to pick something.

00:53:40Marc:But you didn't really want to do it.

00:53:42Marc:But you're like, maybe I'll get enough information.

00:53:44Marc:So just moving through life, I'll have a jump on these idiots.

00:53:47Marc:Yeah.

00:53:48Marc:Because I'll know how their brains work and I'll be able to fuck with it.

00:53:51Guest:Yeah.

00:53:52Guest:Yeah.

00:53:52Guest:And then I found out like how much college, how much education you have to do to become a psychologist.

00:53:56Marc:I'm like, I'm out.

00:53:57Marc:yeah but but but you wanted to get some basic uh info yeah yeah but you don't remember mind games you didn't know but you didn't but you they don't teach you that i don't remember doing one fucking ounce of homework i know i did yeah i just but it's funny to me that you like that that the you wanted to be a comic your whole life but your incentive for studying psychology is like i'm gonna get ahead of the curve on this shit yeah

00:54:19Marc:like i it was self-protecting yeah to to to avoid the the treachery of of your father's persecution i don't think at that point it's trying to involve i i was avoiding that i didn't want to get in business with him but i don't think no no but i just mean the state of mind yeah it was like you know because you didn't know you had it then yeah but you were still sort of like you know if my dad's right everyone's out to fuck me

00:54:43Marc:So if I can get a jump on that shit.

00:54:45Guest:Yes, completely.

00:54:46Marc:Right.

00:54:47Guest:I want to be able to see signs.

00:54:49Guest:I'm reading books on body language and shit like that.

00:54:53Guest:They're all coming at you, Sam.

00:54:54Guest:Yeah, yeah.

00:54:55Guest:100%, dude.

00:54:58Guest:100.

00:54:59Guest:It's been mental warfare from the jump.

00:55:03Guest:Yeah.

00:55:03Guest:Just this thought of like, what is this guy doing?

00:55:05Guest:What is that guy doing?

00:55:06Guest:What is he working?

00:55:07Guest:What are they talking about me over there?

00:55:08Guest:Why is he laughing at me?

00:55:09Guest:100%.

00:55:10Guest:What are you guys talking about?

00:55:12Guest:Me?

00:55:12Guest:You know?

00:55:13Guest:Assuming everybody's thinking about me.

00:55:15Guest:No one gives a fuck.

00:55:17Guest:Yeah, nobody gives a fuck.

00:55:18Guest:Maybe two people.

00:55:19Marc:my mom that's about it well you know what you the thing is is that you know you know that because like if you're you know you're working a program so so you know that like you you there are people thinking about you because you probably did some stupid shit so like and then you got to make it right you got on your side of it and you have the tools to do that now so you know the one and you know when you you know like that well that person is thinking about me because i was a fucking dick yeah and i gotta fucking you know make that right

00:55:44Guest:You know, the cool thing is, like, as you go through recovery, you learn about making amendments to people.

00:55:50Marc:Amends?

00:55:51Guest:Amends to people.

00:55:52Marc:I think amendments is sort of... That might be some of the... That goes back to conspiracies about amends.

00:55:56Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:55:57Guest:And I do enjoy doing that now.

00:55:59Guest:I tend to, at the end of the day, self-reflect on some stuff.

00:56:02Marc:Do it as quick as possible.

00:56:03Guest:And I enjoy it.

00:56:05Marc:Yeah, it's a relief.

00:56:06Guest:Because I'm Armenian, dude.

00:56:08Guest:I'm Armenian-Italian.

00:56:09Guest:I go zero to felony very quickly.

00:56:11Guest:And I react, and I'm like, oh, that was the wrong reaction.

00:56:15Marc:Still?

00:56:15Marc:Yeah.

00:56:15Marc:Well, it's a natural reason.

00:56:16Marc:So you apologize to your girlfriend a lot?

00:56:19Guest:I mean, we both go crazy on each other, but I think we're at a point where we don't take it personal.

00:56:24Guest:We both have these weird flare-ups.

00:56:26Marc:Right, so it's sort of like, oh, he's doing that thing now.

00:56:28Guest:Yeah, she's doing that, she's yelling at me, she's a crazy person, and we all move on.

00:56:34Marc:So when he started doing stand-up in Las Vegas,

00:56:38Guest:you had to make your own way there were no clubs i can't remember the you couldn't get in the hotels well the clubs that were there right there were a catch a rising star the comedy stop the improv and uh steve sharipa's uh comedy club at the riviera yeah and none of them are there anymore they're all gone right and i think only one two of them are named different clubs now one's the last factory one is brad garrett's yeah comedy club which is but there was no way to do open mics or nothing

00:57:04Guest:No, they didn't have open mics.

00:57:06Guest:They never had open mics.

00:57:07Guest:And this was really when being edgy and dirty wasn't in.

00:57:12Marc:I like to say you had to be more cleaner, more mainstream.

00:57:16Marc:As a nobody, but I mean, there were definitely edgier, dirty people doing Vegas.

00:57:21Guest:Yeah, well, I just didn't want to do any of that.

00:57:22Guest:And that to this day is the same way.

00:57:24Guest:I just want to be me, and I just want to be on... And I've gained...

00:57:28Guest:The benefits of that, and it's, you know, financially probably hurt me along the lines, too.

00:57:33Marc:What, just being a dirty fuck?

00:57:34Guest:Just being me, dude.

00:57:35Guest:Yeah.

00:57:35Guest:You know, just talking about my shit on stage.

00:57:38Guest:You know, I got this bit now.

00:57:39Marc:I say dirty fuck nicely.

00:57:40Marc:I respect that.

00:57:42Marc:Yeah.

00:57:42Guest:I got a bit about the time I smoked crack with this guy, and he tried to suck my dick, and I had to punch him with all my crack strength and run off.

00:57:48Guest:Yeah.

00:57:49Guest:Some people don't want to hear about that, you know, just, but it's just my.

00:57:52Marc:Sounds like a good story.

00:57:53Guest:It is a great story.

00:57:55Guest:It's fucking funny as fuck.

00:57:57Guest:But some people like.

00:57:58Marc:Well, that's true because like, and I was thinking about this the other day about, you know, just even living the life we live with or without drugs is that we are not part of the workforce.

00:58:10Marc:So that's putting it lightly, right?

00:58:13Marc:So in a lot of times, like a lot of things that we think people relate to, they don't, there's no way they can relate to it.

00:58:18Marc:right so you know you've just got to sell it in a way that they're like holy shit that's fucked up yeah but you know you're not gonna get you know unless you're at a meeting no one's gonna be like dude i know exactly yeah 100 dude 100 there's nothing like doing a good na meeting dude you can tell great story people just explode oh yeah and it's like i got one for you yeah yeah yeah i was the

00:58:42Marc:The guy that tried to suck you.

00:58:43Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:58:44Guest:Hey, that's you.

00:58:45Guest:Yeah, dude, you shouldn't have punched me, bro.

00:58:47Guest:And you're making amends.

00:58:48Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:58:50Guest:I do.

00:58:51Guest:I just find there's so many rules of comedy now.

00:58:54Guest:Is there, though, really?

00:58:55Guest:Yeah, there is.

00:58:56Marc:I think there is.

00:58:57Marc:Really?

00:58:57Marc:What do you mean?

00:58:58Marc:Are they hard rules?

00:58:59Marc:Are they...

00:58:59Guest:I think there's some... It's just cultural expectations.

00:59:03Guest:I think there's also what people are comfortable with on stage.

00:59:08Marc:I think there's always a couple of guys that are out there pushing the envelope, and I think that there'll be a pushback.

00:59:16Marc:i i'm i'm for it i mean i i want people to love each other and try everybody respect but i think that we should also be allowed to talk about all the funny things everybody does so yeah and you know there's oh there's always guys you're gonna you know be there to be the steam valve to blow off the steam and take the hit but usually there's one or two guys everyone can't do it i

00:59:35Guest:I love punk rock.

00:59:37Guest:I love going in and fucking just lighting shit up and burning places down.

00:59:45Guest:I don't know, man.

00:59:47Guest:I just enjoy it, dude.

00:59:48Guest:I like playing weird fucking gigs.

00:59:50Guest:Can I tell you about the weirdest gig, one of the weirdest gigs I ever did?

00:59:54Guest:Yeah.

00:59:54Guest:I got asked to open up for a cat named Fat Mike from NoFX.

00:59:58Marc:Yeah, I know that guy.

00:59:59Guest:Yeah.

01:00:00Guest:I know of him.

01:00:01Guest:He asked me, his wife is this woman, her name is Soma Snake Oil, and she's a very famous BDSM mistress.

01:00:10Guest:And I got called to do his 50th birthday party, and I talk about this to my act, about how I like it.

01:00:16Guest:like 50 years for a punk rocker is like a thousand years old you know it's like it's like gandalf the white wizard ship so i get called and i go to this uh b it's at a bdsm bar by lax because that's all the weird shit goes down is by the airports where business guys can fly in yeah get weird get back on a plane and get the out nobody knows who they are and so i show up and it's like all like cross dressers and leather daddies they're everybody's in leather cross dressers

01:00:44Guest:And I've been asked to host, you know, you know, and I'm like the guy who did the naughty show and all that shit.

01:00:49Guest:And, you know, so I'm kind of like known as a crazy person.

01:00:52Guest:But in this room, I'm the most vanilla human being out there.

01:00:57Guest:Like, just like I met a girl who was like, you're so vanilla.

01:01:01Guest:I go, what?

01:01:02Guest:I'm like, what are you into?

01:01:02Guest:Like, what's crazy?

01:01:03Guest:She had sex with a knife to her throat.

01:01:05Guest:Like, this is like legit people.

01:01:07Guest:Yeah.

01:01:07Guest:Like, she's like a lawyer by day, like, you know, a hostage by night.

01:01:12Guest:And so I show up, dude, and I do my act.

01:01:14Guest:And dude, I mean, nothing is relatable.

01:01:18Guest:And I am bombing, dude.

01:01:20Guest:But my saving grace is I get heckled

01:01:24Guest:by this guy who looks like a cross-dressing minotaur, okay?

01:01:28Guest:I look out and there's this guy with this giant afro.

01:01:32Guest:He's got these weird devil horn implants, all black, all black eyes in there with contact, full beard and a wedding dress.

01:01:40Guest:Yeah.

01:01:41Guest:And every time one of my jokes bombs, he yells, I want to fuck you in the ass.

01:01:47Guest:And then would explode, and then I'd rip him a new asshole.

01:01:50Guest:So at some point, I stopped doing my act.

01:01:52Marc:And just waited for him?

01:01:53Guest:And I just start ripping in this guy, talking about how I felt like I was in Narnia, and I was about to get fucking prison raped by the lion, the witch, and the wardrobe.

01:02:01Guest:And it ends up saving my fucking act.

01:02:03Guest:Yeah.

01:02:04Guest:Hands on.

01:02:05Guest:oh dude it's like bill burr said until you're famous every show is an away game yeah and then you become famous and every show is a home game right and like that is like i'm just doing shows yeah just survival yeah but what a weird uh what a weird environment

01:02:22Guest:I just love it, though.

01:02:23Guest:Did you host the porn awards?

01:02:25Guest:I did something on Showtime called the Sex Awards.

01:02:28Guest:Yeah.

01:02:28Guest:It was the first and only time they did it.

01:02:30Guest:It was literally the worst gig I ever did in my life.

01:02:33Guest:It was just chaos.

01:02:35Guest:And I walked out and I did my shit.

01:02:36Guest:And everybody's... Like, dude, I walked out to a TV gig with everybody on their phones.

01:02:41Guest:These are all porn stars.

01:02:42Guest:Yeah.

01:02:43Guest:All coked out of their skulls.

01:02:44Guest:Yeah.

01:02:45Guest:Texting people.

01:02:46Guest:Yeah.

01:02:46Guest:I'm like, who are you texting?

01:02:47Guest:You're where it's at.

01:02:49Guest:Yeah.

01:02:49Guest:It's where everybody went.

01:02:50Guest:You're all here.

01:02:51Guest:You're all here.

01:02:52Guest:The only joke that did well was like the biggest winner tonight are the Coke dealers and the place exploded.

01:02:57Guest:After that, fucking nothing but flatlining.

01:03:00Marc:So you're at the store all these years because I remember when I first met you, you were kind of amped up and sweaty.

01:03:06Marc:Your hair was quicker.

01:03:07Marc:You were thinner.

01:03:09Marc:Who was it?

01:03:10Marc:No, I know.

01:03:12Marc:But no, but at some point you hit a wall because I think I was there in your early sobriety, right?

01:03:17Guest:Yes.

01:03:18Marc:Like what happened?

01:03:21Marc:When was that?

01:03:22Guest:You know, man, I've talked about this before.

01:03:23Guest:It's just like, you know, it became at the comedy store where the Coke and the and the sex was more important than the actual performing.

01:03:31Guest:And I just realized I can't do that anymore.

01:03:33Guest:And it's just like, you know, it's like I said, it's like doing Coke is like going to a restaurant, eating and eating and eating.

01:03:40Guest:Yeah.

01:03:40Guest:Like eventually you have to pay your bill.

01:03:41Marc:Yeah.

01:03:42Guest:You have to pay a bill.

01:03:43Marc:It's more like, you know, nodding and not eating and not eating.

01:03:46Marc:Yeah.

01:03:46Marc:Just ordering food and just sitting there.

01:03:48Marc:That's exactly what Coke is.

01:03:51Guest:ordering food ordering food it's just sitting there and they're like you're gonna eat it i'm okay i'll eat it eventually and you just never eat it but now you gotta pay a bill you gotta pay a bill that's exactly what it is you know and how bill but you didn't eat i know i didn't do anything i just sat there grinding trying to get creepy with this young chick who's also not eating you know

01:04:12Guest:i don't know man i have a sex addiction a really bad one and coke and sex addictions go hand in hand how does that play how did the sex addiction play out just like girls like the i mean like they like hookers though and stuff or no not hookers just you know just anybody

01:04:29Guest:No.

01:04:30Marc:Who was game.

01:04:30Guest:I once was, you know, I'd get sober and then I'd relapse and then I would be like, get rid of all the drug dealers in my phone.

01:04:37Guest:Yeah.

01:04:37Guest:And then I'd be like, oh man, I can't, I got no drug.

01:04:40Guest:I got to find drugs.

01:04:41Guest:And I would drive around and this is true.

01:04:42Guest:So one time I got robbed by the same hooker twice in one day.

01:04:47Wow.

01:04:47Guest:Because I was looking for drugs.

01:04:49Guest:I was like, fuck.

01:04:50Guest:So I'm like, hey, you know where to get drugs?

01:04:51Guest:She's like, oh, yeah, I know where to get drugs.

01:04:53Guest:So I give her the money.

01:04:54Guest:She never came back.

01:04:55Guest:I'm like, fuck, I got robbed.

01:04:56Guest:So I drive around, dude.

01:04:58Guest:And like two hours later, I still haven't found drugs, but I see her.

01:05:01Guest:I'm like, no one would do it twice in one day.

01:05:04Guest:Nobody's got that lack of humanity, dude.

01:05:07Guest:So I think she's like, baby, I'm sorry.

01:05:08Guest:It just got weird.

01:05:09Guest:I couldn't find it.

01:05:10Guest:I'm like, okay, just don't do it again.

01:05:12Guest:Give her the money.

01:05:13Guest:Didn't come back.

01:05:13Guest:I'm like, fuck.

01:05:14Guest:Another thing that got me off Coke is it was just getting so bad.

01:05:18Marc:It's been almost 20 years from me.

01:05:20Marc:It's so away from me.

01:05:22Guest:It's so stepped on.

01:05:23Guest:It's so bad.

01:05:24Guest:I'm just like, why am I even doing this?

01:05:26Guest:It's the worst business model ever.

01:05:29Guest:Coke dealers always fucking over their clients.

01:05:31Guest:How do you get repeat business?

01:05:33Guest:Why are you fucking people over?

01:05:34Guest:It's like short dollar game.

01:05:36Marc:Because you gave a hooker twice.

01:05:37Marc:You got robbed by the same hooker twice.

01:05:39Guest:That's why.

01:05:39Guest:Live and learn, dude.

01:05:39Marc:But that's why.

01:05:40Marc:That answers your question.

01:05:42Marc:It's like, they'll come back.

01:05:43Marc:Yeah, you keep coming.

01:05:45Marc:Once in a while, you throw in a good batch.

01:05:46Guest:So crazy, dude.

01:05:48Guest:How long has it been?

01:05:49Guest:It's been a long.

01:05:49Guest:I mean, I had five.

01:05:50Guest:I'm up 200 days now because I smoked weed.

01:05:53Guest:But I had five years at one point.

01:05:57Guest:And now I smoked weed a little while ago.

01:06:00Guest:220.

01:06:00Marc:Oh, so you're back?

01:06:02Marc:Back in the mix.

01:06:03Marc:How long were you out?

01:06:05Guest:Oh, dude.

01:06:06Guest:I mean, like, I get, like, what I do is I get, like, a year, go out and weed.

01:06:10Guest:Yeah.

01:06:11Guest:And then get some time.

01:06:12Guest:Yeah.

01:06:12Guest:And I go back and forth over the last, like, eight years.

01:06:15Marc:Yeah, weed would be the thing that would take me out because it's so easy.

01:06:18Marc:And it's everywhere now.

01:06:19Marc:Yeah, yeah.

01:06:20Guest:I like shrooms too, but I can't do shrooms.

01:06:23Guest:I miss shrooms.

01:06:24Guest:Yeah.

01:06:24Guest:I like shrooms.

01:06:25Guest:I like to talk to God once in a while.

01:06:26Marc:Yeah, sure.

01:06:28Marc:And what does God have to say?

01:06:30Guest:Keep rocking, dude.

01:06:32Guest:You're doing the Lord's work.

01:06:33Marc:Oh, yeah?

01:06:34Guest:Yeah.

01:06:34Marc:That's what he says when you're on shrooms?

01:06:36Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:06:37Marc:Now, I got a question.

01:06:38Marc:Do you think that maybe...

01:06:41Marc:Because we sort of established something here.

01:06:43Marc:I'm not a psychiatrist or a psychologist, but I think it's interesting that it seems that there is sort of a theme in your relationship with your old man in terms of what he's like and then you realizing what he's like and then you studying psychology.

01:07:01Marc:It just seems to be a straight line to this researching conspiracy that there's still this sort of preemptive kind of like, I want to be on top of it because they ain't going to fuck me.

01:07:09Guest:Probably.

01:07:10Guest:Yeah.

01:07:10Guest:This probably isn't.

01:07:12Guest:It probably isn't.

01:07:12Marc:I'm not going to be fucked by any of this bullshit.

01:07:15Guest:100%.

01:07:15Guest:100%, dude.

01:07:16Guest:Without a doubt.

01:07:17Guest:I was thinking as I was talking, I'm like, oh man, that's probably where that all comes from.

01:07:22Guest:You know?

01:07:23Guest:And how like there is that, but I just enjoy it.

01:07:26Guest:Sure.

01:07:26Marc:But what's your dad, what's he up to?

01:07:28Marc:He's just hanging out?

01:07:28Guest:He gambles.

01:07:30Guest:His girlfriend, he's dating a beautiful black woman who used to dance on Soul Train.

01:07:37Guest:And they just live in Prescott, Arizona.

01:07:40Guest:And he just loves his life.

01:07:42Guest:He's always telling me about how he's always working out, yet he loses no weight, which is fine.

01:07:47Guest:That's his thing.

01:07:48Guest:And he just does his thing.

01:07:49Guest:He goes to gamble.

01:07:50Guest:He loves Golden Corral, and he eats that all day.

01:07:53Guest:And he's just...

01:07:54Guest:Living the life I think he always wanted to do, which is not any responsibilities, which is kind of always where I am right now.

01:08:02Guest:When I look at my career versus my friends, that's when I get depressed.

01:08:06Guest:But when I just look at what I'm doing, I love it.

01:08:09Guest:I have no boss.

01:08:10Guest:I make good money doing my own thing, and I fucking love it.

01:08:14Guest:I have no masters.

01:08:16Guest:I just do my own shit.

01:08:17Guest:But when I look at the other people, I go, oh, man, I should be doing all that.

01:08:23Guest:But when I take that out, I'm just like, man, I'm a dude who flunked first grade.

01:08:28Guest:My brother was the number one high school bowler.

01:08:30Guest:I didn't do jack shit.

01:08:32Guest:My only claim to fame in high school was that I was in a breakdancing group called the HDI Breakers, and we were sponsored by the Holiday Inn, and I was most improved on the high school bowling team.

01:08:43Guest:That was it.

01:08:44Guest:After that, nothing, dog, nothing.

01:08:46Guest:And here I am just making good money, doing my own shit.

01:08:50Guest:I always got told if I was dirty, I wasn't going to make any money.

01:08:54Marc:Well, that's not true.

01:08:57Marc:There's a whole world of guys I came up with.

01:09:00Marc:I think I was dirtier when I was younger.

01:09:03Guest:That's where I am, too.

01:09:04Marc:It's like Attell.

01:09:06Marc:There's definitely a model for it.

01:09:08Marc:He's the best.

01:09:09Marc:I love him.

01:09:09Marc:I could tell that you're of the Attell school.

01:09:13Marc:Yeah, for sure.

01:09:15Guest:The best writer.

01:09:16Marc:I like you, too.

01:09:17Marc:I love what you do.

01:09:19Marc:Well, thank you.

01:09:20Marc:I love Attell, too.

01:09:21Marc:I wonder how he's doing.

01:09:22Marc:Have you talked to him?

01:09:24Guest:I mean, when I see him a couple times in New York, any time the fact that he knows my name is a giant win in my life.

01:09:31Guest:He's like one of those guys where you're like, I love that dude so fucking much.

01:09:35Guest:And he's like, hey, what's up, Triple L?

01:09:36Guest:I'm like, oh, fuck, he knows my name.

01:09:38Guest:Every time.

01:09:39Guest:Every fucking time.

01:09:40Marc:Yeah, I love watching him.

01:09:41Guest:You know, him, Rogan, you guys, Burr.

01:09:43Guest:I love watching what you guys have done.

01:09:45Guest:You know, it's fun to watch.

01:09:46Guest:You know, I heard you say one time,

01:09:48Guest:And I wanted to know what that meant to you was that you said, you know, things are going good for you.

01:09:54Guest:And maybe I'm messing up the quote, but when you started doing what everybody else was doing in terms of like, do you know what I'm saying?

01:10:01Guest:We're like, maybe you were doing it one way and then the successful people were doing it another way.

01:10:06Guest:And then you kind of like, well, maybe I'll try doing it in your own way.

01:10:09Guest:Not that you did them.

01:10:10Guest:Right.

01:10:10Guest:You did you, but in their way.

01:10:12Marc:Yeah.

01:10:13Marc:Yeah.

01:10:13Guest:And I often think maybe I should do that and then, like, start playing the game a little better.

01:10:18Marc:Well, I think what it was was really, like, I don't know if that, like, what I would do was it was more about how I was looser in the sense that, like, I would go out of my way to sort of, like, make sure that I was not

01:10:31Marc:planned like that like you know i knew where i wanted to go most of the time like if i'm doing an hour an hour and a half set but i would kind of wing it and i would wing it on important things and i just i thought that was like that was ballsy and that you know then like and then you're really taking risks and then after a certain point i'm like yeah but you've been doing this a long time and maybe you should structure your shit yes yes

01:10:55Marc:So it was really like when I did the epic special, that special, the epic special, I'm like, I'm gonna have callbacks, I'm gonna work this fucking hour and a half, and I'm gonna bring it in right on the money, and I kinda got off on it.

01:11:09Marc:I was like, I did the work, and I did all the loose work, and there's still, I'm working right up until that day I shoot, like the last special I did, which is the best thing I've ever done, that two reel.

01:11:19Marc:Isn't that cool?

01:11:19Marc:For Netflix, it's like, I didn't have the ending of that set until the day before.

01:11:24Marc:like i was like i was doing i was on the road doing about an hour and a half and they needed 70 minutes so i had to cut 20 that last two days before i taped is i waited that long and i just fucking knocked it out and made a list got rid of unessential shit figured out where the callback was changed the ending made it stronger and nailed another callback and so i just started getting off

01:11:46Marc:on that yes as opposed to just fucking being punk rock details yeah i'm with you dude that was the change it wasn't so much like do it the way other people do it was just sort of like i should be a responsible comedian and do my fucking job properly yeah i'm with you on that too i'm with you on that i battle between my punk rockiness and the understanding that these people are here to be entertained

01:12:11Marc:Yeah.

01:12:12Marc:I mean, you know, punk rock can be pretty entertaining, but like, you know, once you get people who are coming to see you and you realize like, you know, like, you know, I should do new stuff.

01:12:19Marc:Yeah.

01:12:20Marc:And you can get loose with them, you know, and they, they dig it, but you do, you know, it's weird.

01:12:26Marc:It's really, it's not even, I'm not always thinking about them or the entertainment thing.

01:12:30Marc:I'm really thinking about like, fuck it.

01:12:33Marc:I can do that.

01:12:34Marc:Yeah.

01:12:34Marc:I can, you know, like, you know, I, you know, you know, if your callback going to make you look like a genius, I can do fucking callbacks.

01:12:41Yeah.

01:12:41Marc:Yeah.

01:12:42Guest:You ever have a callback?

01:12:43Marc:You're like, whoa, that got big reaction.

01:12:44Marc:They love them every time.

01:12:47Guest:Yeah.

01:12:47Marc:And I'm like, like the one I did for epics, like both of the last two specials, like two or three callbacks.

01:12:53Marc:And I'm like, they just fucking love it because, you know, it's, you know, all of them sort of have a theme, but when you have a callback, it makes it this, this unified thing.

01:13:03Marc:Like, you know, if you call back all the way through an hour, one or two callbacks, it feels like a whole prepare, like it's like a show.

01:13:10Marc:It's a bow.

01:13:11Marc:It's not just a package.

01:13:12Marc:Well, no, it's like there's continuity.

01:13:14Marc:It's not just a guy telling jokes.

01:13:16Marc:You know, like you do a callback at the end, all of a sudden that whole hour and 10 minutes, it's like, oh, it all fit together.

01:13:22Guest:It's just perfect.

01:13:23Guest:Yeah, it's all connected.

01:13:25Guest:Yeah, exactly.

01:13:26Guest:It's all connected if you want to play ball.

01:13:27Marc:If you want to play ball, it's all connected.

01:13:29Guest:This is your best show.

01:13:31Guest:um that this is the best thing to do because that's how i feel like kind of as a comedian i am right now is the best i've ever been yeah and i think that's really cool that you know i'm about to shoot my special i'm shooting it i'm at the viper room i just want to do a small venue yeah that's great yeah i did i did like a 200 seater for thinky pain

01:13:52Guest:I love it, dude.

01:13:53Guest:I'm going to put like 150 in each show, dude, too.

01:13:55Guest:And like, I'm kind of putting it all together right now.

01:13:58Guest:And I just feel like I'm the best I've ever been.

01:14:01Guest:And I think that's kind of amazing being 20 something years into a career and just being able to feel like you're still getting better.

01:14:09Marc:For me, it was finally settling into myself.

01:14:12Marc:To know myself well enough to where I'm not going to drag them through my goddamn problems.

01:14:17Marc:I have enough distance from my bullshit to where I can make it funny as opposed to just going in front of audiences and making them pay for whatever fucking problems I have or however I was brought up.

01:14:32Marc:Yeah.

01:14:32Marc:I get that totally.

01:14:33Marc:I mean, that's entertaining, but you know, it's a little exhausting and it's hard to repeat and it may not be something people want to see again.

01:14:41Guest:I completely get that.

01:14:45Guest:I just been, I work really hard on trying to do simple relatable shit too.

01:14:49Guest:Cause I have such a weird skull and I like to go into weirdness and

01:14:53Marc:I've been doing a little of that and I can feel that.

01:14:56Marc:The thing about going in the weirdness, especially if you're good at it, which you are, is that you get way out into the weirdness and you're like, ah, fuck, I left me on an island down there.

01:15:07Marc:I left Sam sitting on stage.

01:15:09Marc:Where the fuck am I?

01:15:12Marc:But it's fun to come back.

01:15:13Marc:But that's the thing, you can always come back.

01:15:16Guest:land again you know i do love that dude i love the whole just psychology of it all i call my comedy gator roll what that's how my style yeah which is like start really simple yeah at the top and then kind of bring them deep into the waters of chaos you know and like yeah and just psychologically bring them get them ready for the next level of creepiness so that they're not like whoa what the fuck you know just like hey slowly bring it but do you do you leave them in the swamp or do you pull them out at the end i

01:15:44Guest:I think I need to pull them all at the end.

01:15:48Marc:You got to work on that part?

01:15:50Guest:Because I want to tell the crack smoking story on this special.

01:15:54Guest:But I don't think it could be the end.

01:15:57Marc:I had that issue with my last special that there was a beat where it was just dark.

01:16:00Marc:And it wasn't a story, but it was a joke that was pretty existentially dark, even though it was funny.

01:16:06Marc:And I'm like, do I really want to end on that?

01:16:09Guest:At the end of the day, my whole thing is like, everybody's a little weird.

01:16:13Guest:We need to get over being creeped out by that.

01:16:17Guest:That's my point.

01:16:19Marc:Well, I know, but being weird and getting over something is still like, you're still talking to regular people who may not have had a crackhead try to suck their dick on crack.

01:16:28Marc:So they can get over it.

01:16:31Marc:It's your life.

01:16:31Marc:They have nothing invested in it.

01:16:34Marc:But it doesn't need to be everyone's experience.

01:16:37Guest:What do you mean you never experienced this?

01:16:40Guest:You never smoked crack with a robot?

01:16:43Guest:I get that is the weird thing because I don't want people coming here to my shows hearing stuff that they've heard before or that they can come up with.

01:16:54Marc:Yeah.

01:16:55Guest:I want it to be completely unique, but it needs to be relatable because when it gets too unique, it just becomes, what the fuck are you talking about?

01:17:03Marc:No, but I think that a lot of times just your phrasing.

01:17:06Marc:I think that I like when people...

01:17:12Marc:if you blow their minds because they never thought of something like that yeah like i you know i know what you're talking about but i never thought about it like that yeah that's the best you can do yep really and you can doll that up however you want i mean you can you know make you can paint as as or elaborate a picture as you want but ultimately you're sort of like i know where you started but i had no idea where you're going there and i never thought about that like that that's where the comedy comes from the surprise sure surprise and just the execution of it yeah

01:17:40Marc:All right, buddy.

01:17:40Marc:Well, I'm glad we did this fine.

01:17:41Guest:Thank you for having me on.

01:17:42Guest:How'd it go for you?

01:17:44Guest:Dude, I had a great time.

01:17:45Guest:I don't know how you thought.

01:17:46Guest:No, it was great.

01:17:47Guest:I had a wonderful time.

01:17:48Guest:It was good.

01:17:48Guest:I'm so happy for all your success.

01:17:50Guest:Thanks.

01:17:51Guest:I always have been.

01:17:52Guest:Oh, thanks.

01:17:52Guest:I remember when you just started doing this, we were both working out the why together.

01:17:56Guest:And I'm like, hey, dude, your podcast is blowing up.

01:17:58Guest:I'm super happy for you.

01:18:00Guest:And you were like, yeah, dude, I'll have you on.

01:18:03Guest:When was that?

01:18:03Guest:Which why?

01:18:04Guest:30 years later, I finally was on it.

01:18:06Guest:Yeah.

01:18:06Guest:It was at the Hollywood Y. You used to run on the treadmill.

01:18:08Guest:Yeah.

01:18:09Guest:We used to talk all the time.

01:18:10Guest:That's right.

01:18:11Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:18:12Guest:I could have just put you on then.

01:18:14Guest:No, it's fine, dude.

01:18:15Guest:It's at the beginning.

01:18:16Marc:I think people think I'm a crazy person sometimes.

01:18:18Marc:I don't know.

01:18:19Marc:That was never the case.

01:18:20Marc:It was really just sort of like you'd be in my head for a while and then I'd just forget.

01:18:25Marc:I don't think you're crazy.

01:18:27Marc:It was no personal judgment at all.

01:18:29Marc:It's like you were a store guy and I wanted to have you on at the beginning.

01:18:32Marc:Yeah.

01:18:32Marc:But now look, more people listen.

01:18:33Marc:It's better.

01:18:34Guest:No, I'm totally thankful for it and I'm super happy for

01:18:36Guest:you do.

01:18:36Marc:You too, man.

01:18:42Marc:That was lively, wasn't it?

01:18:44Marc:That was Sam Tripoli.

01:18:45Marc:Go to samtripoli.com for all Sam Tripoli info.

01:18:49Marc:Okay, I'll see you in Stockholm.

01:18:51Marc:Tonight.

01:18:52Marc:Right?

01:18:53Marc:Right?

01:18:54Marc:Boomer lives!

01:18:58Marc:But it's going to be hard for him to figure out where he comes back.

01:19:01Marc:Oh, don't add that.

01:19:03Marc:No, go ahead.

01:19:05Marc:Makes it sad, though.

01:19:07Marc:It's a mythical call.

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