Episode 867 - Rob Huebel
Guest:Lock the gates!
Marc:Alright, let's do this.
Marc:How are you, what the fuckers?
Marc:What the fuck buddies?
Marc:What the fucking ears?
Marc:What the fuck sticks?
Marc:What the fuckettes?
Marc:What's happening?
Marc:I'm Marc Maron.
Marc:This is my podcast, WTF.
Marc:Welcome to it.
Marc:How's everybody?
Marc:Rob Hubel is on the show today.
Marc:Rob has a series that he created and stars in Do You Want to See a Dead Body?
Marc:It's on YouTube Red.
Marc:I didn't, you know, I never had Rob on.
Marc:But we turned out it turned out to be hilarious and had a great conversation.
Marc:I got a real kick out of him.
Marc:We kind of had a good time in the Hubel.
Marc:So I'm a little I'm a little bonkers, you know, moving, moving, man.
Marc:It's just like it just never.
Marc:And I have not touched the garage.
Marc:The garage is like this.
Marc:preserved museum of me that is now just sitting out here by itself the house is uh is getting emptier uh it's uh i moved the fucking cats which is no small deal
Marc:It's very odd how cat like I am.
Marc:And I know I talked about this, but I can't.
Marc:It's very weird coming back to this house with no cats in it.
Marc:I realize that I've been worried about this house for, you know, almost two decades because of those cats.
Marc:What's going on with the cats?
Marc:One of the reasons I can never leave the house was ever was the cats.
Marc:What about the outdoor cats?
Marc:What about Boomer?
Marc:Like when I went bankrupt and I was going through that divorce, I didn't know how if I lost the house, how would I go anywhere?
Marc:Boomer was outside.
Marc:I couldn't move Boomer.
Marc:Well, that's over.
Marc:But now this house has never had no cats in it.
Marc:And it's weird because I can just leave the door open now.
Marc:And every time I walk by it, I'm like, oh, shit.
Marc:But nope, there's no cats in it.
Marc:It's so weird.
Marc:And there's almost no me in it.
Marc:It's so fucking bizarre.
Marc:And everything just seems like moving is never ending.
Marc:This is a small house.
Marc:But obviously I'm going to stay here in the garage for a bit.
Marc:My house is not in that bad of shape.
Marc:I just have to fix it up.
Marc:I don't know what I'm going to do with it.
Marc:I think I might just maybe keep it as a cabin.
Marc:Maybe keep it as a workspace.
Marc:Maybe just have the garage here and use it as the office.
Marc:I don't know.
Marc:I don't know.
Marc:I know that I have to use it for an extended period of time.
Marc:I don't know.
Marc:The most difficult thing I got to move is this garage and it has remained untouched.
Marc:Anyways, what I do want to reach out about here is that...
Marc:Somebody that we know and like a lot is dealing with something really tough right now.
Marc:We want to lend a hand here.
Marc:Barry Crimmins is a great comic and someone we've enjoyed having on this show.
Marc:I did an episode with him back in like 2013, and then he was back on with Bobcat Goldthwait in 2015.
Marc:And if you saw the documentary that Bob made about him, Call Me Lucky, you know Barry's story, that he's been a tireless advocate on behalf of victims of sexual abuse.
Marc:Now, we found out that Barry's wife, Helen, who is an artist in her own right, very, very good.
Marc:A great photographer is in the middle of a cancer fight and the cost of treatment has become overwhelming.
Marc:The copays alone are just staggering for the two of them.
Marc:And it's just it's tragic.
Marc:It's really heavy what they're both going through.
Marc:And with all the help that Barry has given to people in his life as an advocate and human rights activist, we figured we can help lift Barry and Helen up right now.
Marc:If we can lift them up just a bit, that would be tremendous.
Marc:If you go to Barry's Twitter page, you'll see the pinned tweet has a link to Helen's GoFundMe account.
Marc:That's at Crimin, C-R-I-M-M-I-N-S on Twitter.
Marc:And someday we can hope to live in a country where they actually fix health care so that no one can ever be driven into financial peril because they got sick.
Marc:But until that time, we're going to have to help each other.
Marc:So let's help Barry and Helen out.
Marc:OK, go to go to at Crimmins on Twitter and look at that pin tweet for that link to the GoFundMe so we can help save Helen's life.
Marc:So Godspeed, Barry and Helen.
Marc:Sorry you're going through that.
Marc:And I hope I hope we can help out a little bit.
Marc:So that's horrible, but there is hope there.
Marc:There is hope there.
Marc:We've been in touch with Barry a bit.
Marc:So I am in the middle of this move and projecting a lot onto my cats and onto my own situation and wondering whether I can handle it, whether I deserve it, whether I should have just burrowed in here.
Marc:But it's a trip to move those cats, man.
Marc:You know, Monkey and LaFonda and me have been together for a long time, since 2004, 13 years.
Marc:Gone back and forth with Monkey in New York, and LaFonda has made that trip once.
Marc:But this is really the only home outside of their childhood home in Astoria, Queens, where I found them in the alley.
Marc:that they've ever known and uh it was weird for me like i i think i was just it was getting sort of sad just to just the cats here yeah as i took things out and there was part of me that thought well maybe i could um you know maybe they they just stay at the house when i'll just have them i'll come over when i record and sleep here and uh and they'll just they'll just live here
Marc:But then I realized I was ridiculous.
Marc:So now I moved them and they freaked out, but they, you know, they're going to be all right.
Marc:Everyone's going to be all right.
Marc:I'm having a hard time throwing stuff away.
Marc:There's a, there's bits and pieces from different parts of my life.
Marc:There's canned goods from my relationship to, you know, like from years ago, there's furniture and things from my marriages.
Marc:It's just, it's a little, it's a little bit much.
Marc:You know, it's like an emotional sarcophagi in there.
Marc:And I think a new page will be nice.
Marc:So Rob Hubel has this great new series that he stars in.
Marc:I mentioned that he created it.
Marc:It's Do You Want to See a Dead Body?
Marc:It's now on YouTube Red.
Marc:And we had a great talk.
Marc:I had a good time with him.
Marc:It was fun.
Marc:It's a fun one.
Marc:Fun one with a funny guy.
Marc:This is me and Rob Hubel.
Guest:Now, what did you just say?
Guest:Are you going to ask me about Glow?
Guest:About the show I'm on?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:How much you liked it?
Guest:I haven't seen it yet.
Guest:Everyone loves it, but I'm that asshole.
Guest:I've seen so little of what you do.
Guest:That's what I appreciate.
Guest:I'm glad that we are all now at the point where my best friends, I can say, man, I haven't seen it.
Guest:I don't.
Guest:There's so much on.
Marc:I can't.
Marc:There's too much.
Guest:What do I owe you?
Guest:I like you.
Guest:Too much.
Guest:I'm psyched that we're all making money.
Guest:I hope.
Guest:But I can't.
Guest:I'm not going to watch your show.
Guest:I do want to watch your show, though, because everybody loves it.
Guest:I know we talked on a live one once before.
Guest:Yeah, me and Joe Latrulio.
Marc:Joe Latrulio.
Guest:That was at the Steve Allen Theater.
Marc:Steve Allen Theater, yeah.
Marc:Oh, it was a long time ago.
Guest:Yeah, it was like five, six years ago.
Marc:It's long, right?
Marc:Yeah, yeah.
Marc:A lot has happened.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:You have children.
Marc:I do.
Guest:I got a one-year-old, yeah.
Guest:Wow.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:How's that?
Guest:How's parenting?
Guest:Super easy.
Guest:How's the kid?
Guest:Super easy.
Guest:She's great.
Guest:She's great.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:We got off to a little bit of a rocky start.
Guest:She was very premature.
Guest:Oh.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So my advice if you're having kids is don't have them prematurely.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:You can avoid it.
Guest:Do you have control over that?
Guest:No, you don't.
Guest:that's what they, like how premature.
Guest:She was very early.
Guest:She was three months early.
Guest:So, uh, God, did they have to put her in the thing?
Guest:Yep.
Guest:She was in the thing.
Guest:She was in the little box for, uh, I think that's the term.
Guest:It's called a little thing.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:They put her in the thing.
Guest:I'm making jokes about my baby.
Guest:That was premature.
Guest:Um, but, uh,
Guest:They put her in the NICU in the little box for four months, actually.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So it was great.
Guest:That was a big part of my last year.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It was intense, dude.
Guest:It was very intense.
Guest:But like, was it touch and go?
Guest:It's like not anymore.
Guest:Like nowadays, it's sort of like The Matrix.
Guest:Like it's very sci-fi what they can do now.
Guest:Like this baby was born, when the baby was born, and we don't have to go into this for days and days, but like she was under two pounds.
Guest:She was one pound, 15 ounces.
Guest:So you're looking at like a tiny little alien, you know?
Guest:And what they do is they scoop them up and they run down the hall with them with a bunch of doctors and then they they plug them into all of these machines and gadgets eating them and everything.
Guest:Yep.
Guest:And and nowadays it they can they can you know pull off.
Guest:Miracles.
Guest:So it's, uh, it was, it was, you know, it was intense.
Guest:That's hard.
Guest:But, uh, yeah, it was really crazy, but I'm super psyched to have health insurance.
Guest:And, uh, and now we have this awesome one year old, totally healthy baby.
Guest:Really?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I mean, she has, uh, the thing that we're waiting to catch up is just her lungs.
Guest:Like when they're born that early, their lungs are like, you know, uh, are really little.
Guest:So, you know, we can't like, she's not going to climb Everest, uh, tomorrow, but I'm not going to do that anyway.
Guest:Um,
Guest:No.
Marc:There's no reason for her to do that.
Marc:You don't need to either.
Guest:You know what?
Guest:No one has to.
Guest:What baby needs to be up on Mount Everest?
Guest:I don't think you should pressure her to do that kind of thing.
Guest:Although it would get a lot of likes.
Guest:Oh, yeah.
Guest:It would get a lot of likes.
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Guest:So that'd be cool.
Guest:But other than the lungs, she's all good.
Guest:And then the lungs will catch up.
Guest:I'm happy for you.
Marc:That must have been crazy.
Guest:so you and your wife are over at the hospital every day yeah yeah yeah yeah oh my god yeah which is uh super fun tons of fun not stressful on your marriage at all i've only been married like we got married like two years ago two and a half years ago and i'm old and uh my wife is young and we were like whoa oh i'm old and i'm gonna die how old are you i'm 48
Marc:really yeah how old is she she's 36 37 yeah yeah that's it's not like yeah yeah i'm not i'm not like a pervert yeah she's not like 20 yeah you know even then it would it be i don't know if that's no no offense to 48 year olds that are dating 20 year olds it's it's a little telling it's on the cusp of yeah you know i try to look at it frame it more as like that's sort of a sad situation and
Marc:That's not gonna end well for him.
Marc:You know that guy.
Marc:You know who that, yeah.
Marc:Been that guy.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Have you?
Guest:Sure.
Marc:Many times?
Marc:A couple.
Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marc:Where there's like a 20 year difference?
Marc:Couple times.
Marc:Wow.
Guest:And what do you talk about?
Guest:difference does that make i mean like what do because there are some things with my wife where like i can't bring up you know hey let's joke around about the tv shows we watched when we were growing up no i know i have that with i with like music you can't talk about like music that your your girlfriend would be like uh i like the backstreet boys or whoever no i know like i i the woman i'm with now is like 37 i think yeah 36 37 i should really know the exact
Marc:you should and i'm 54 so you look great you moisturize yeah i do yeah me too what do you use uh no you don't have to plug it the lubiderm facial daily facial moisturizer i use that i use that on my privates really no interesting i use uh i love me and you talking about moisturizers on my privates i use uh saliva you do where do you get that right out of my mouth
Guest:I use oil of Olay.
Guest:Why are we talking about this?
Guest:Yes, on my face.
Guest:Not on my privates.
Guest:It's way too expensive for my privates.
Marc:Really?
Guest:I use your saliva on my privates.
Marc:Not when I'm awake.
Marc:This podcast is going down.
Marc:Obama's listening to this shaking his head.
Marc:This is better than Obama.
Marc:What I feel, no, I'm kidding.
Marc:That was an amazing day, but we didn't talk about this stuff.
Marc:What I feel bad about right now is saying what difference does it make when you say, what do you talk about?
Marc:Here's the truth of the matter.
Marc:That came out of my mouth and I realized that was insensitive.
Guest:I gotta take it back.
Marc:Well, I mean, I dated people that were significantly younger than me.
Marc:But, like, looking back on it, the woman I'm with now, I'm no emotional giant.
Marc:No.
Marc:Nor am I. Nor am I. And, you know, quite frankly, the woman I'm with now has really got me sort of level.
Marc:Right on the, yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:It took a long time.
Marc:But, like, the younger people, the young people I've dated, thank God, the young people of this country.
Yeah.
Marc:You know, I never thought about it much until you start going out places.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And I used to do a whole bit about that, where the guy who looks like... The person, the one that looks like the idiot is the guy.
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:Because it's not... No one's like, oh, cool.
Marc:Well, you know what's up with that, right?
Marc:And you can think that he's taking advantage of her.
Marc:But I've found most of the time, that guy's the sucker.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:It's not... Especially where we live, yeah.
Marc:Sure.
Marc:Sure.
Marc:But I genuinely like the women who were significantly younger than me, and I learned things from them.
Marc:And granted, we couldn't talk about TV shows when we were younger.
Marc:Right.
Marc:But they do have a sensibility that is like you get to a certain age and you're kind of locked in things, and you realize how limited your perception is because we're just hung up on how we grew up.
Marc:That's right.
Marc:And they bring a lot more to the table.
Marc:They're definitely more capable with existing in the world than I think I was.
Guest:Have you ever been doing something with her and thought like, what am I doing?
Guest:What am I doing?
Marc:Not with this one.
Guest:Why am I rollerblading?
Marc:No, this one, the one I'm with now is we have a lot in common in those areas where we're like, we don't need to go there.
Marc:You both love rollerblading.
Marc:No, we don't.
Marc:We both love like sitting around going like, do we need to go to that?
Marc:I don't think we need to.
Marc:to go.
Marc:I don't think we need to rollerblade.
Marc:Do you want to rollerblade?
Marc:No, I can't because it's going to hurt my head.
Marc:Let's buy skateboards.
Marc:Let's both buy skateboards.
Marc:No skateboarding.
Marc:None of that kind of stuff.
Guest:It's always fancy.
Guest:It's those fancy modes of transportation that screw you up.
Guest:If you buy one of the little mono wheel things.
Marc:She doesn't get around on that.
Marc:We're not doing that kind of stuff.
Marc:We're both very practical.
Marc:But the last one
Marc:I used to just feel like... It sounds like you burned through them.
Marc:No, I've been with this one for a few years.
Marc:Oh, great, great.
Marc:No, I'm pretty long-term-y.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:But there was one there for a while that was significantly younger.
Marc:I mean, embarrassingly younger.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I might have been 50.
Marc:She might have been 23.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And I thought we were sort of good.
Guest:See an eye to eye.
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Marc:Yeah, but as soon as I got outdoors with her, I was like...
Guest:what am i doing yeah there's nothing i can just look at me yeah i'm that i'm that guy she's like 10 yards ahead of you i'm that guy yeah yeah that's the bit just me just scrambling hey where are we going wait up wait for me uh did you at the time you know like did you drive like a convertible no yeah no that would be bad
Marc:I was never that, and I'm not even sure how it happened.
Marc:What about like a motorcycle with like a sidecar?
Marc:No, I'm not that midlife crisis-y.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I really didn't see any problem with it intellectually or emotionally.
Marc:Right.
Marc:It was really just sort of like you realize like, look, I'm old.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I don't feel that with this one.
Marc:Do you feel that with yours?
Guest:With my wife?
Guest:No, not at all.
Marc:So there you go.
Marc:But it's normal, man.
Marc:It's normal.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:What, less than 10 years?
Marc:Or 10 years?
Marc:Just 10 years?
Guest:11 years.
Marc:11 years?
Marc:It's normal.
Guest:But it's not 20 years.
Guest:It's not 20 years.
Marc:I like that tone.
Guest:No, it's good.
Guest:It's fine.
Guest:It's fine.
Marc:It's just so, I don't know, man.
Marc:You know, love is a weird thing.
Guest:And the end.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:That's the end of the podcast.
Guest:Love is a weird thing.
Guest:Thank you for being here.
Guest:Thank you for being here.
Guest:We figured it out.
Guest:Music credits.
Guest:Roll the credits.
Guest:where did you come from um i came i was in new york when you i remember that yeah yeah um i mean i grew up in dc in that area oh really in like uh virginia like out in the suburbs like your dad in politics no every uh everybody else's dad was no everybody else's dad near me worked at the pentagon no really and uh my dad was an airline pilot yeah so he's a pilot yeah you look like a pilot oh thank you yeah i appreciate that yeah thank you
Guest:You look like the idea of a lot of a lot of pilots look like perverts.
Guest:Is that true?
Guest:I think so.
Guest:They were.
Guest:Well, they marry women 11 years younger than them.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And they wear like the bomber jackets, you know, and they got.
Marc:Well, they're all air force guys.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And they got like weird mustaches.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Bad haircuts.
Marc:But they're the only ones that professionally need aviator glasses.
Guest:That's right.
Guest:They're the only ones legally that should have aviator glasses.
Marc:Aviator sunglasses.
Guest:Everybody else is like ripping them off.
Guest:That's right.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So my dad flew out of what is now Reagan National Airport.
Guest:For what airline?
Guest:An airline that is no longer around called Eastern Airlines.
Guest:I remember Eastern Airlines.
Guest:You remember Eastern?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Sure.
Guest:So he flew for Eastern for like a million years.
Guest:They had the shuttle.
Guest:That's right.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:That's right.
Marc:Before- The Eastern shuttle and they had their own building for a while over there at LaGuardia.
Marc:That's right.
Marc:Right?
Guest:That's right.
Guest:Wow.
Guest:You know a lot about Eastern Airlines.
Yeah.
Guest:What's your dad's name?
Guest:Jerry.
Guest:Oh, shit.
Guest:You know Jerry Hubel?
Guest:Yeah, Jerry Hubel, the pilot.
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Guest:Bomber jacket.
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah, man.
Guest:Wow, that's crazy.
Guest:Yeah, so that's where we grew up, and everybody else worked in, like, at the Pentagon.
Marc:So a lot of kids were like, can't tell you what my dad does.
Guest:Yeah, for real.
Marc:Yeah, for real.
Guest:Because I don't even know.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I think that the, I don't know how that works.
Guest:Like, I guess if your dad is, like, in the CIA or something, what do you tell your kids about?
Marc:i don't know just you just say like um i work at a sporting goods store let your mom handle it yeah yeah mom will tell you yeah no i don't know what i i imagine they come up with some story that they can stick with you know that yeah that but it's like what if the kid's sort of like i want to we take me to work with you yeah no take your kid to work there yeah yeah you want to see me assassinate yeah south american dictator yeah
Guest:dad this is awesome run run like hell just keep running so you knew those guys yeah kids yeah i knew i knew some of those kids what'd your mom do she work in the business no my mom uh took care of us mainly and then when we got older my mom went to work for pbs like doing how many kids were there uh just me and two brothers i got an older brother and a younger brother how much older
Guest:um uh just two years on on either end oh really yeah how'd he turn so we were pretty we're we're all pretty close uh they're all good you know they're yeah they're they're good they're good dudes and my little brother's married and he has uh like teenage kids really he got married way before me yeah my little brother got married um like right out of college and now has kids that are like
Guest:you know full-on teenagers with you know going through you know yeah i'm like i don't know what to tell you man i have like a one-year-old yeah and so in a cool way i can ask my little brother for is he still married to the same lady yeah yeah so he's like yeah he's into it yeah yeah yeah yeah okay totally into it what happened the older brother my older brother is an assassin
Guest:no what for the CIA yep for the CIA that's amazing no my older brother is he lives in South Carolina my whole family lives in South Carolina now except for you except for me yeah so I'm like the black sheep but yeah my older brother is a photographer and you know kind of like doesn't really care that much about like money and doing you know kind of like artiste yep yeah exactly huh exactly like you yeah probably a lot like me he's got books like this
Guest:um let me let me know i just mean like does he have a room like this uh yeah he definitely has a room with books and he knows what books are yeah that's good for sure it's that's different than you right um do you have a room with i don't i don't i have a book with uh magazines i mean i have a room with magazines just tons of magazines mostly dirty so now when you dad like did you go up in the cockpit and stuff
Guest:I did.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And, uh, this is all obviously, uh, before, you know, nine 11, but, uh, but back in the day, you know, free for all, it was a free for all.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like, uh, like when we were little, um, you know, you, we, we, you ride, uh, for free, you fly for free family, right?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So I had a little, basically like a little blank checkbook that you can, you know, you go up and you fill out the from to, you know, like, where am I going?
Guest:You go up and you hand them the coupon, depending on where you live.
Guest:And they just say, okay, have a seat.
Guest:We'll let you know if there's room.
Guest:And so that's how we traveled, you know, when I was little.
Guest:And, uh, but yeah, for sure.
Guest:Like my dad would take me on, like my dad would try to like buddy up, you know, Hey, let's go on a trip.
Guest:You know, I'm gonna take this kid out on a trip.
Guest:I mean, just me and you.
Guest:And so my dad would like take me on a, like a ski trip.
Guest:trip you know we'd go out to wherever and uh and but my dad i remember one time everybody's getting on the plane yeah and you know you get you come down the jetway and you take a right and you go down to your seat yeah well i came on and my dad like gave me a wink and he like smuggled me into the cockpit like i took a left yeah and got into the cockpit my dad's like get in the closet i was like what
Guest:and i'm not mark i'm not joking my dad's like get in the closet be very quiet i was like okay so i'm sitting in like the little coat closet yeah in the cockpit of the eastern airlines playing this is probably why eastern airlines is no longer around by the way but uh so i just got an extra seat in the cockpit for for the guy for like two or three yeah yeah there's it's called a jump seat yeah yeah and that's for like uh other pilots that are you know going to somewhere else yeah anyway i like the voice you have for just anything that has to do with your dad
Guest:other pilots yeah super cocky yeah let's let's do a loop but uh but so my dad like smuggled me into the cockpit and was just like hang out here in the in the closet yeah and i'll bring it so then we took off and he's like okay it's
Guest:our coast is clear so i came out and then it's just me in the cockpit with my dad and the co-pilot and back then yeah they had a third guy a navigator right who would like decide okay let's go straight okay take a left so there's a pilot a co-pilot a navigator and a jump seat that's right and i'm just i'm just sitting there yeah and
Guest:Well, I would sit on the jump seat.
Guest:And so that happened a few times.
Guest:And so, but it was, like you said, it was a free for all.
Guest:Like I remember some of my memories of it are like, you know, it's just a bunch of guys up there like talking locker room talk.
Guest:Sure.
Marc:Oh, yeah.
Guest:Talking about flight attendants.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know, and I don't know what all went on out on the road, you know.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like maybe my dad has another family, you know.
Guest:Possible.
Guest:Very possible.
Guest:Very possible.
Marc:Is he still around?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I don't know if he listens to the podcast.
Guest:You can just ask him.
Guest:Are they still together?
Guest:No.
Guest:No, they got divorced.
Guest:But thank you for asking.
Guest:Well, they're friendly.
Guest:They're friendly.
Guest:They're in their 80s.
Guest:Wow.
Guest:Yeah, they're friendly.
Guest:Um, but anyway, did that come back around?
Guest:It did.
Guest:It did.
Guest:Well, yes, they, they go, they went through a, uh, a pretty, you know, horrible divorce.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And then eventually I think you get to an age where you're like, fuck it.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I know you.
Guest:Um,
Guest:I'm not going to kill you, you know?
Guest:And it's like, uh, so then they just like, now they're like, you put your guns down and it's just like, we're friends in a way, you know?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You can't bring up certain things.
Guest:Like you can't bring up like the divorce or like, you know, the, the rental house that you got in the divorce or whatever.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:But, um, just keep it, keep that off the table.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Keep that off the table.
Marc:But if you bring that stuff up, it all comes right back.
Marc:Oh yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:They go right back into it.
Marc:I imagine.
Marc:I can see that.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:That was stressful.
Marc:If I start talking about divorce, I can,
Marc:Are you divorced one time?
Marc:Twice.
Marc:Three times?
Marc:No, twice.
Marc:Twice.
Marc:The second time, though, that was the bad one.
Guest:That was the one that took.
Guest:The first time didn't take.
Marc:The first one I left.
Marc:Oh, really?
Marc:The second one I got left.
Marc:You knew her.
Marc:Didn't you know Mishina?
Marc:I did know her.
Marc:I didn't know her, but I knew that you were married to her.
Marc:Because we were around in New York and in here.
Marc:Because I think we all got out here at the same time.
Marc:So your parents are friends.
Marc:That's nice.
Marc:Yeah, it is nice.
Marc:And you're friends with your siblings and everything's good.
Marc:Flying around in planes.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Well, what I was going to tell you, the button on the dumb pilot story was that it was such a free for all in the 80s back then.
Guest:I remember distinctly.
Guest:sitting up there with them and the uh like the navigator guy who's sitting over at the side you know like looking at the radar whatever they're looking at had like pornography like like taped to his desk like like the inside of a locker room and he would just you know once you take off it's just like all these centerfolds came down come on and you see like 70s bushes everywhere yeah
Guest:Yeah, for real.
Marc:This was the 80s, but there were still women with 70s.
Guest:That wasn't his plane.
Guest:Maybe that's a good point.
Guest:That is a great point.
Guest:He couldn't get through a round trip.
Guest:Until this moment, I've never thought about it, but what you said is true.
Guest:He had to bring...
Guest:that pornography with him tape it under the desk tape it onto the thing but i'm telling you i remember all right naked pictures of like a couple of women not a crazy amount but like a couple naked pictures of ladies and be like hey guys when you're not flying the plane look at this look at these boobs
Marc:That guy.
Marc:Maybe he was like a character and they were just sort of like, I'm going to have to fly with him in the picture.
Guest:Yeah, pervy Dave.
Guest:Come on, Dave.
Guest:Put him away.
Guest:Put your thing back in your pants.
Guest:Kid's here.
Guest:Yeah, my son's here.
Guest:Look out that window, boy.
Guest:Look at that.
Guest:Look at that cloud.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Well, that's pretty exciting.
Guest:Yeah, it was cool to have a dad that did that.
Guest:I used to like walking through airports with my dad.
Guest:He was in the uniform?
Guest:Yeah, and you'd walk through and you'd be like, yeah, my dad's the bus driver.
Guest:But he was an Air Force guy?
Guest:yeah he was an air force guy and a marine pilot too yeah in vietnam um no somehow he missed vietnam i don't know maybe he's like i don't know i'll have to ask him um i can't remember i don't know it might have just skipped his his unit but that's how he learned huh yeah yeah yeah i think that's and now my little brother's a pilot my little brother flies for um ups really no plug i don't know if you have you know if they're an advertiser i i had a ups guy over this today
Guest:You did?
Guest:Was it my brother?
Guest:I don't think so.
Guest:He wasn't in a plane.
Marc:He was in a brown truck.
Guest:The pilots do double duty.
Marc:The pilots, yeah, they'll land.
Marc:Yeah, it was weird.
Marc:A plane landed on my street.
Marc:Yeah, there he is.
Marc:So he had a, was he in the Air Force?
Guest:No.
Guest:He just learned?
Guest:No, yeah, I guess he was.
Guest:He was, but in the Air Force Reserves.
Guest:That's what it was, yeah.
Guest:I've never been in the military.
Marc:Have you been in the military?
Marc:No, no.
Marc:I would remember that.
Marc:Yeah, I would remember it too.
Marc:Yeah, no, I was in the military.
Marc:Have you ever done a USO tour?
Marc:I'm over the age now.
Marc:Yeah, you might not qualify.
Marc:No, not anymore.
Marc:I have not done a USO tour.
Guest:Oh, yeah.
Guest:yeah i did i went to iraq with um in 2007 me and uh rob riggle rob riggle set it up he's a marine i know i've talked to rob yeah yeah solid guy marine guy america friendly guy yeah very friendly midwestern yeah yeah yeah uh great guy and so he set it up so we went over there me and him and horatio and paul sheer and did a bunch of comedy for the how was that
Guest:You know, you're welcome.
Guest:You're welcome to the troops.
Guest:That's what I'm saying now.
Guest:It's like 10 years later and I'm still telling them you're welcome.
Guest:Not thank you?
Guest:Nope.
Guest:You're welcome for the comedy.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:No, of course.
Guest:It was amazing.
Guest:It was incredible.
Guest:Did they enjoy it?
Guest:Uh, did they, I think they did.
Guest:You know, it's, it opens your eyes to, uh, when you, when you go over there, you do see it's all, um, 18 year old dudes from like Alabama, you know?
Guest:And, uh, and they are, we went over there during the Iraq situation.
Marc:And you guys are sort of, uh, you know, you're not standard standups per se.
Guest:No.
Guest:We, yeah, we went over there and did like a bunch of sketches and like, uh, making fun of the Pentagon.
Guest:Uh huh.
Guest:And they actually told us, like, we could do whatever we wanted.
Guest:So we had, like, a bunch of kind of, like, funny bits.
Guest:And then we did, like, we threw a bunch of sketches together.
Guest:We did some kind of, like, dating game where we got, like, a few guys up.
Guest:And then, like, Horatio might have come out in, like, a wig.
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:Really?
Guest:But listen, all I'm telling you is it killed.
Guest:It did?
Guest:It killed.
Guest:Yeah?
Guest:We killed in Iraq.
Marc:Is that true?
Guest:I can say that I killed in Iraq.
Guest:Is it true?
Guest:I shouldn't say that.
Marc:Is it true?
Guest:I feel like the shows went pretty well, but only because they're really hungry for comedy.
Marc:Right.
Guest:That's why you should go over there.
Marc:No, but I mean, are you going to the smaller camps?
Guest:Yes.
Guest:We went to- So it must just be terrifying.
Guest:It was really scary.
Guest:We took Black Hawk helicopters everywhere we went, for real.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And they took us to what are called FOBs, Forward Operating Bases.
Guest:And we went way, way, way in, I think, northern Iraq.
Guest:It's not like the Bob Hope Arena situation.
Guest:No, no, no, no.
Guest:We were sleeping in shipping containers.
Guest:They had shipping containers.
Guest:And they punched holes in the thing for windows.
Guest:And then they had a couple cots in there.
Guest:I mean, it was not comfortable.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:But they, uh, but they take good care of you.
Guest:And then they, the main thing is like, you just get to meet all these people that are super psyched to have anyone come over there and entertain them.
Guest:Well, yeah, definitely.
Guest:Um, that's great, man.
Marc:Good for you doing that.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:One time we were flying in a helicopter going to like the next place.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:And it was a really long trip.
Guest:And it was like a two-hour flight.
Guest:And so they open up the doors on the side.
Guest:And so there's just hot wind blowing in.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It looks like the... Yeah.
Guest:Sounds.
Guest:Great sound effects.
Guest:Great sound effects.
Guest:What, just what I did?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Dude, you're wasting your time.
Marc:I know.
Marc:You've got to get into the sound effects.
Marc:I keep trying to get my agent to do...
Guest:There's no reason why we couldn't use that in movies.
Guest:There's no... Why even... Why even put film in the camera?
Guest:How's that?
Guest:Even better.
Guest:That's a motorboat, right?
Guest:No.
Marc:Jet ski?
Marc:It's kind of... You know the sound... I don't know.
Guest:As just a fart?
Marc:No, it was a generic wind sound.
Guest:Oh, gotcha.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:But but so we were flying to the next base and it was like a two hour flight and everyone was like trying to fall asleep.
Guest:And, you know, they got in either door.
Guest:They have a guy.
Guest:in the door with one of those big guns on a stand, like a huge machine gun.
Guest:I've seen that in movies.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It looks like Apocalypse Now.
Guest:Yeah, right.
Guest:So we're flying along.
Guest:Everyone's like kind of half asleep.
Guest:And all of a sudden, you just hear that someone on the helicopter is just like...
Guest:Like the loudest machine gun.
Guest:Someone's just spraying down the desert, hailing down a hellfire of of artillery.
Guest:And I look over.
Guest:I'm like screaming.
Guest:Sheer is screaming.
Guest:Regal screaming.
Guest:And it's Horatio sitting there laughing his ass off, shooting the mission.
Guest:Like, I guess the guy, the gunner, which is like, yeah, come on over, man.
Guest:And let Horatio just light up the desert.
Guest:Because there's nothing out there.
Guest:There's just nothing.
Guest:So Horatio's just like... It was terrifying.
Guest:It was so scary.
Guest:But that's my main memory.
Marc:That guy did what your dad did with Horatio.
Marc:Yeah, it was the same guy.
Marc:Get over here and play with his gun.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:You guys didn't know it was happening until it was happening?
Guest:I thought we were taking heat.
Guest:Oh, man.
Guest:So I can say I went, you know, in a way I can say I've served.
Guest:Saw some action.
Guest:Yeah, I was in the shit.
Marc:Yeah, a little bit.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:So where did you go?
Marc:You went to college, and when did you start doing the comedy?
Guest:Well, yeah, I went to New York.
Guest:I always wanted to be in comedy, but I didn't know how to do it.
Marc:But did we skip something?
Marc:Did you go to college?
Guest:I went to college, yeah.
Guest:Where?
Guest:Did we skip something?
Guest:Yeah, I went to Clemson in South Carolina.
Guest:Clemson.
Guest:Go Tigers.
Guest:We won the- How many schools have said that?
Marc:I don't know if you're- Go Tigers.
Guest:i don't know a lot of a couple of them yeah a couple of them but uh no big deal we are the football national champions really currently you didn't know that what do i know about sports i don't know you're wearing a football jersey hey shut up don't tell people see i don't know i did you if you had answered the door in a football jersey yeah you would have been like what's happening yeah what are you a big sports guy
Guest:Not really, no.
Marc:Did you play ball?
Guest:No, I played soccer.
Guest:I'm a white guy.
Guest:I played soccer when I was little.
Marc:What does that mean?
Guest:It's just like a suburban.
Guest:Right.
Marc:It seems like a contemporary suburban.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:But I mean, you could have been a quarterback back in the day.
Marc:You're 48.
Guest:Thank you for saying that.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I could have gone pro.
Damn.
Guest:but uh you know i played soccer in high school and you know it wasn't great they didn't even have soccer in high school when i was in high school it wasn't even invented then i don't even think so yeah maybe i'm wrong maybe i just didn't know the teams we had yeah a lot of people think that i'm a sports guy um and i appreciate it i really do i i don't know regal is right regal is a um maybe not
Guest:Yeah, he is.
Guest:Yeah, I think he might have played football and stuff.
Guest:He's a big sports fan, too.
Marc:Oh, he is.
Guest:Yeah, he's from Kansas City, and he's weighing all those sports teams.
Guest:Yeah, because I think I probably... He plays golf, too.
Marc:I don't really... I'm not good at golf.
Marc:I'm happy to hear this, because I think I might have... I had Riggle in here, and I prejudged him.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:He was probably not the kind of guy I would like in high school.
Marc:yeah but he got better i think well you he's a nice guy genuinely a good guy for sure but you would think that um you don't realize uh the there's a lot of layers to him and uh and you don't realize that going into it you think like decent guy though yeah and i imagine some of those guys i prejudged even in high school might have turned out to be decent guys not many of them no not a lot i think it's a small number is there a chainsaw
Marc:Probably.
Marc:The guy comes around with the chainsaw sometimes.
Marc:Are we in danger?
Marc:No, he just runs down the street waving it around.
Marc:Yeah, we got to get the hell out of here.
Marc:We're like, there's the guy again.
Marc:Mark, we got to get out of here.
Marc:Every day, four o'clock, chainsaw man.
Marc:Chainsaw man.
Marc:We got to get out of here.
Marc:I would say that's probably a guy with a leaf blower.
Guest:No, that's a chainsaw.
Guest:Is it?
Guest:We're in danger.
Marc:Do you want me to... Let's just ride it out.
Marc:We'll see what happens.
Marc:I just want to know if it's going to stop.
Marc:And we'll have to go around and shut out the fucking windows.
Guest:Do you have like a... What?
Guest:Like a producer's assistant that'll go out there and give him a hundred bucks to say...
Guest:you know like a shoot get out of here how do those conversations happen it's just sort of like you know you hear dogs well when you're on i think that's a racket i think that if you're filming a tv show a lot of people think like oh i can make a hundred bucks i'm sure they can by the way if you're listening to this here's an easy way to make a hundred bucks and when you see people filming something crank up your start honking the horn and
Guest:Start yelling.
Marc:Doing that yard work with the loud equipment.
Guest:Get your leaf blower out.
Guest:And then some kid will come over.
Guest:Yeah, some 18-year-old kid will come over.
Marc:With a headset on.
Guest:Be like, hey, man, I'm so sorry to bother you.
Guest:Is there any way you could not do that?
Guest:We're rolling.
Guest:People are like, oh, really?
Guest:You're rolling?
Guest:Because I'm trying to make my yard nice.
Guest:You fuck.
Marc:I don't have any time during the week other than now to do this.
Guest:Now's the time to blow my leaves.
Marc:I'm sorry.
Marc:You guys are just going to have to wait.
Marc:How long are you going to be?
Marc:At least an hour?
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Hold on.
Marc:Let me talk to my boss.
Guest:We were shooting something recently in a park out here in Los Angeles where we all live.
Guest:And this old man came out and he said that we were on his property.
Guest:And we said, no, no, no, no, this is a park.
Guest:And he said, no, no, no, all this right here, this is my property.
Guest:And he wouldn't get out of the shot.
Guest:He's a crazy man.
Guest:Yeah, he was a crazy man.
Guest:You pronounced it correctly.
Guest:He's a crazy man.
Guest:Crazy man.
Guest:He's a wolfman.
Guest:And so we offered to pay him, and he said, I don't want your money.
Guest:We're like, really?
Guest:Like, what is this about?
Guest:So we finally had to, like, call, like, the county, like, tax assessor and have them, like, email us the property and show him, like, we're on a park.
Guest:Really?
Guest:Get out of here.
Marc:It went that far?
Guest:It took a long time.
Guest:Oh, my God.
Guest:I still don't.
Guest:Yeah, I don't know why.
Guest:I don't know what he wanted.
Guest:If you're listening to this piece of shit.
Marc:How did I get there?
Marc:Oh, I know.
Marc:I know what this is all leading to.
Marc:I'm going to have to close the windows.
Guest:okay i'll fill time while you close the windows hey everybody it's rob you listen mark's outside so i'm gonna fill time call me on my cell phone right now 212-555-1212 oh you get the 555 number you're a professional
Guest:I'm noticing this glow calendar.
Guest:You guys have calendars for your TV show.
Marc:No, one of the cast members made that.
Marc:The guy, yeah, Chris Lowell, who took a lot of pictures, had those made.
Marc:He's also on the show that you didn't watch.
Marc:I'm going to watch it.
Marc:Do what you want, dude.
Marc:It's your fucking life.
Marc:I will watch it.
Marc:All right.
Marc:So I went to college at Clemson.
Marc:Tigers.
Marc:That's how we got distracted.
Marc:Didn't play football.
Guest:Didn't play football.
Guest:They are the national champions.
Guest:No big deal.
Guest:You can catch them anytime and every Saturday.
Guest:What did you study there?
Guest:Marketing.
Guest:Here's the thing.
Marc:You didn't know what you wanted to do.
Marc:I didn't know what I wanted to do.
Marc:Here's what I thought.
Marc:That's one of those majors.
Marc:Marketing.
Marc:What does that mean?
Marc:Management.
Marc:What is that?
Marc:What did you learn?
Marc:What are even the classes?
Marc:Mark, it's like... It's business.
Guest:It's like, hey, how do we promote this product?
Guest:Really?
Guest:That kind of stuff.
Guest:Sort of, in a way.
Guest:That's a whole major?
Guest:That's a whole major.
Guest:Consumer behavior.
Guest:Why do people buy the things they buy?
Guest:That's a whole major.
Guest:That's a whole major.
Guest:You go to class and they're like, what's going on with... Why do people act like this in grocery stores?
Marc:Is economics part of it?
Guest:yes you take economics all that economics finance uh marketing you did all management yeah yeah yeah did you did you take it in i a little bit here's the thing i wanted to at the time it's this is all going somewhere at the time i thought i i wanted to um be in comedy but i didn't know how to do it so i thought oh you know what i'll do i'll get into advertising
Guest:That makes sense.
Guest:Like you got copyrighted?
Guest:Yeah, that's right.
Guest:That's what I thought.
Guest:I thought I'd move to New York and get into advertising.
Marc:You'd write jingles and blurbs?
Marc:Blurbs and bloopers.
Marc:Jingles and what are those?
Marc:Catchphrases.
Marc:Catchphrases?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:How about a hamburger?
Marc:Hey, let go of the beef.
Guest:hey don't eat that hey eat this get that out of your mouth put this in your mouth yeah you weirdo like that one yeah get that out of your mouth put this in your mouth get that out of your mouth put this in your mouth yeah don't steal that people listening so uh i thought i would work in advertising so because i didn't have the here's the here's the the lesson that i'm trying to uh get across today yeah
Guest:I didn't have the courage to say to myself, why don't you just get into comedy and start writing jokes?
Guest:Did you know that that was a possibility?
Guest:I didn't know how you do it.
Guest:How do you do it?
Guest:You just start.
Guest:You had no interest in doing standup.
Guest:That seemed pretty scary to me.
Guest:And I'll tell you why.
Guest:I remember going to Luna Lounge
Guest:and this is after college when you went to this is this is in new york yeah i want to hear about the dark times of floundering floundering you couldn't get a job in new york and yeah and everything was terrible for for real i uh i thought i went to interview at uh after college yep so right after college you're like i'm moving to new york moving to new york yeah more or less i moved to aspen colorado
Marc:What'd you do there?
Marc:Skied for a year.
Marc:Wow.
Marc:Nice.
Marc:Tolerant parents, little money in the bank.
Marc:Good for you.
Guest:I don't know what, I think my parents thought, go, go ahead.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Good luck.
Marc:Enjoy it.
Marc:How are you at the skiing?
Marc:Really good.
Guest:You want to see me?
Marc:Yeah, do it.
Guest:Look at this video on my phone.
Guest:It was a great time.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Did you teach skiing?
Marc:No, no, no.
Marc:You just lived up there?
Guest:I worked in hotels.
Guest:I worked in hotels.
Guest:And at that time, the Aspen Comedy Festival was going on.
Guest:You remember that?
Guest:I was part of it.
Guest:What year?
Guest:This was like early 90s.
Guest:I was there in 95.
Marc:You were?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I missed you.
Guest:That was not a good year for me.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:But I had I bought tickets.
Guest:Gary Shanley performed there when I lived out there and I had front row tickets to Gary Shanley.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And it was amazing.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I bet it was.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And and I didn't know.
Guest:But years later, me and Rob Riggle would go to the Aspen Comedy Festival with a little sketch show that we did.
Guest:And that's how we got agents anyway.
Guest:No big deal.
Guest:came full circle came full circle kind of came yep totally did but you at the time at the time didn't know what i was doing i was like you weren't sitting there going i want to do that i wanted to do comedy didn't know how to get into it other than stand-up stand-up seemed too scary i didn't think what what was i gonna do an average looking white dude yeah from the suburbs of like northern like what's my look like that
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like, what are people going to do?
Guest:Like, oh, that guy's got a hot take on stuff, you know?
Guest:But you knew you wanted to be funny.
Guest:But I knew that I could be funny and I felt like I could do it, you know, but I didn't know until I got to New York, I hadn't seen improv before.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:So you go to Aspen for a year, you ski, you work at hotels, see Gary Shanling.
Marc:See Gary Shanling.
Marc:And then you're like, time for real life.
Guest:Yep.
Guest:Time for real life.
Guest:So then I moved to New York and try to get into advertising.
Guest:Doesn't go well.
Guest:How'd that go?
Guest:I'd like to hear some of those stories.
Guest:Hey, I'm Rob.
Guest:Hey, what's up?
Guest:I'm Rob.
Guest:And I want to work here.
Guest:Oh, cool.
Guest:Where else have you worked?
Guest:Nowhere.
Guest:Oh, cool.
Guest:Where are you coming from?
Guest:I just lived in Aspen.
Guest:Oh, cool.
Guest:What do you mean?
Guest:Oh, yeah.
Guest:I like to ski and smoke weed.
Guest:Oh, okay.
Guest:Uh, get out of here.
Guest:So that's sort of how that went.
Guest:Uh, when I wasn't, you know, so, uh, so I floundered around and the, at the time I was living, uh, with a couple of guys and one of the guys, uh, had a girlfriend, uh, had roommates in New York.
Guest:It was super poor.
Marc:We're in Queens.
Guest:No, I, uh, I lived with these investment.
Guest:Everyone I lived with was making money.
Guest:They were all like these investment banker guys.
Marc:How'd you get hooked up with those guys?
Guest:like a friend of a friend they said hey this guy's got a floor that you can sleep on so I moved to New York and I lived in like you know some place on the Upper West Side but was sleeping under the stairs literally they had like they didn't have a room for me I slept under the stairs in this place and I had like a little egg crate you remember those egg crate mattress like in this room yeah like the things that are soundproof these are my old mattresses no come on you could have done better why do we do that to ourselves
Guest:Because I literally had no money.
Guest:I moved to New York and I had no money.
Marc:No friends.
Guest:I didn't know anyone.
Guest:I thought I'm going to move to New York.
Guest:I'm going to get into advertising.
Guest:I'm going to give myself a year.
Guest:I'm going to give myself one year.
Guest:And I didn't know anything about New York.
Guest:I didn't know anyone in New York.
Guest:So wild, right?
Marc:I didn't know where I was going.
Marc:That must have been sad times.
Marc:Dude, I remember going.
Marc:I temped.
Marc:I had temp jobs.
Guest:Well, that's what I was going to tell you is that my roommate's girlfriend worked at a temp agency.
Guest:And she's like, all right.
Guest:Do you know Microsoft Word?
Guest:No.
Guest:Do you know Excel?
Guest:What?
Guest:Do you know how to make a spreadsheet?
Guest:No.
Guest:I don't know any of that.
Guest:Do you have a suit?
Guest:No.
Guest:I didn't have those things.
Guest:So she would go, okay.
Guest:here go to this place tomorrow morning at nine o'clock don't be late you're going to answer the phones yeah and you know and so i would just go to these places and she would lie for me she would just say yep this guy who's coming in he's a real sharp customer and he knows he knows microsoft word and in excel and he can type type and i was like no i can't i remember i had a temp job at the time warner or time life yeah and
Guest:And my job was inputting zip codes of people that subscribed to Time Magazine.
Marc:Oh, wow.
Guest:So they're like, here you go.
Guest:And then one time I had a job at Goldman Sachs for a couple days.
Marc:Did you meet Steve Bannon there?
Guest:Great dude.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Was he fun then?
Guest:Yeah, a really good guy.
Marc:How about that Gary Cohn?
Marc:Was he there?
Marc:He was probably there.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:He was probably an up and coming guy.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:But my job, you know, again, like I would temp for these people that their receptionist was sick.
Guest:So they would send me in and I would be like, hey, what do you need, Steve?
Guest:And they'd be like, I don't know, staple this stuff.
Guest:And so they'd give me stuff to staple.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And I remember I distinctly remember barging into a very important meeting in a conference room in lower Manhattan and like Goldman Sachs.
Guest:and I had stapled all of these reports together, and I just said, hey, Steve, I'm done putting all the reports together.
Guest:All these guys in suits whip around and look at me like, why are you in here?
Guest:We're a bank.
Guest:We're trying to solve, you know, we're trying to take money from people.
Guest:We are running the world.
Guest:Yeah, we're controlling the money.
Guest:We're controlling all the money everywhere.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And you're happy with yourself?
Guest:Get out of here.
Marc:So that's what I did for- You proud of yourself that you stapled some things?
Guest:yeah so i did that for for like i attempt for like a couple years in new york and then um and then i got you're on the bridge and then i'm on the bridge and some guy comes up to you and says uh and starts an improv yeah yeah uh i started taking improv classes in new york and um and what drove you
Guest:um i saw my roommate at the time i had switched roommates now yeah and my roommate knew did you have a room now um at this point i had a room yeah that's good and um i was living with um a guy who um was a funny guy also trying to get his shit together a guy named mike henry
Guest:who went on later to work for family guy.
Guest:And, uh, he created the Cleveland, the Cleveland show.
Guest:Oh yeah.
Guest:Really funny writer.
Guest:But at the time we're just broke dudes living in New York.
Guest:And he was just a friend of a friend.
Guest:And he said, Hey, uh, you should go see this improv show with me.
Guest:I'm going to go see this improv show.
Guest:And it was, uh, that show, uh, ask cat that Amy Poehler at the old UCB.
Guest:Yeah, not even they didn't.
Guest:They hadn't even started the theater yet.
Guest:So it was like they would do them in these little pop up places.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And so I went to see an ass cat and it was like Tina Fey and Amy Poehler and Adam McKay and like John Glazer and Stephen Colbert and like all these, you know, big Chicago comedy future superstars.
Guest:who had just moved, they had all just moved to New York and were getting it going.
Guest:I think some of them were, I think like, I'm sure McKay was writing for SNL or something like that.
Guest:And anyway, I saw that show and changed my life.
Guest:I was like, oh, that's what I'm gonna do.
Guest:I'm gonna do that.
Marc:That's how you do it.
Marc:That's how you do it.
Marc:That's how you do it.
Guest:If you don't wanna do standup, that's how you do it.
Guest:and and they hadn't even gotten the theater together yet but when they uh a few couple weeks later i think they started this theater and started doing classes and i was like yep the one the original one the one with the weird seats the old the old strip bar that's right yeah there's an old strip bar on on the tent and they got the seats from the bus terminal or something yeah yeah yeah and uh it was an old strip bar and uh they used to get a lot of weirdos coming in there and looking for strip shows and we'd be doing you know improv and sketch shows and people want to jerk off yeah and
Guest:And you'd be like, no, no, no.
Guest:They had to turn away a lot of Orthodox Jews.
Guest:The Hasidim used to come.
Guest:It's true.
Guest:You've heard that story.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It is true.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:For some reason, a lot of Hasidic Jews would come into the theater looking for strip shows.
Guest:And we'd be like, oh.
Guest:And some of them would stay for the conference.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You've heard that story.
Guest:Yeah, I've heard a couple of versions of it.
Guest:Yeah, it's true.
Guest:It's true.
Guest:But we used to have to like go out on the street and hand out flyers.
Guest:On that street?
Guest:No.
Guest:We'd go down to Union Square and other cool places, you know, the East Village.
Guest:And we'd try to hit up college students to come to our improv and sketch shows.
Marc:Right.
Marc:I remember.
Marc:What street was it on though?
Marc:Like 22nd?
Marc:22nd Street.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:That's right.
Guest:And that's how we would get people to come see our shows.
Guest:And that was the one like Matt lived at the top of it.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Walt.
Guest:yeah lived above the theater yep yeah and um so we would just try to pack the house and and at that time it's not like it is now where there's like a million people trying to do shows there it was like we need shows you guys you know walsh and besser and and amy and and ian they'd be like you guys write a show put up a show tomorrow you know yeah so we would just throw up shows and really it was like that
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It was really like, um, you had to, they needed time filled.
Guest:They needed time filled.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I mean, literally if you had an idea for a sketch show, you could do it.
Guest:But were you taking classes or just hanging out?
Guest:Yep.
Marc:So it was the original four teaching.
Guest:Yep.
Guest:And that was it.
Guest:That was it.
Guest:That was it.
Guest:And then, uh, and then like, you know, a year later or a couple of years later, you would start, like I started teaching there.
Guest:And so I started teaching improv.
Guest:Who'd you take with?
Guest:uh i tried to only take with ian i took i took a class with besser and with amy they were great but when i got in with ian that was my dude yeah yeah and you know ian went on to like write on uh i think he i think he was a showrunner maybe on key and peel but like there's something about him that he's a machine he always scared me
Guest:yeah he's yeah he's one of those guys it's like intimidated me yeah he's like he's kind of a yeah he's out of all of them yeah couldn't get a handle on that guy yeah you can't get a read on him yeah yeah but uh but but comedy wise was a machine and knew um how to make any improv scene funny and like you would do you know when you would take classes with him you would do a terrible terrible fucking improv scene just a disaster and
Guest:And he'd be like, okay, here's what you said.
Guest:And then here's where it went.
Guest:And this is where it took a bad turn.
Guest:And he was so analytical about it and scientific about it.
Guest:He could show you, this is where it went off the rails.
Guest:If you had just gone in this direction, that would have made sense.
Guest:And then you guys would have had a funny scene.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:But you can't control that shit in the moment.
Guest:No, no, no, no, no.
Guest:You just have to fail, dude.
Guest:I'm telling you, man, I feel bad for all of the people that came to early shows.
Guest:So many horrible, horrible shows.
Guest:But you do learn very quickly, oh, that was bad.
Guest:But that still happens.
Guest:For sure.
Guest:There's got to be plenty of shitty shows.
Guest:Yeah, for sure.
Guest:But less so as you, you know, you figure it out.
Guest:Like, eventually, you figure out, like, oh, these are the people I want to perform with.
Marc:These are the guys that I think are funny.
Marc:Well, I guess now, you know, you do enough of the sort of class-driven shows.
Marc:Like, there's not a desperation for shows anymore.
Marc:I imagine you guys are probably out in front of audiences, regular audiences, before you were probably ready.
Marc:For sure.
Marc:For sure.
Guest:And people would be like...
Guest:Oh boy.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Leave there and be like, what was that?
Marc:You know?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I mean, that's why so many people think that improv is bad because like probably because of me.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:You know, it's just, that's all I hear.
Marc:And the guys that I came up with.
Marc:People are like, I don't like improv.
Marc:Because of Rob Hubel.
Marc:Rob Hubel.
Marc:Thank you for calling me Steve.
Marc:Wow.
Marc:Do you have a brother named Steve?
Marc:No.
Marc:Where did Steve come from?
Guest:I don't know.
Marc:Why'd I call you Steve?
Guest:I love it.
Guest:Rob.
Guest:Steve.
Guest:I'm going by Steve.
Marc:Steve Hubel.
Guest:Please tweet at me at Steve Hubel.
Guest:Please.
Guest:I know who you are.
Guest:So that's how- And you started teaching?
Guest:So I started teaching improv classes.
Guest:And then right about that time, I started doing commercials.
Guest:A commercial agent started scouting out.
Guest:The theater started to get a little bit of heat on it.
Guest:Who's there now at that point?
Guest:At that point, it was like Cordury, Ed Helms, Andy Daly, Riggle, Shear.
Guest:And they all came up through the ranks?
Guest:They all came up.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:We all started around the same time.
Guest:It's amazing.
Guest:But what, what changed, uh, things for me was, uh, I got a commercial agent and then I started getting commercials and then that just gives you some, some, uh, ability to tread water.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So I, so I national commercials.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So I got really lucky in that world.
Guest:Um, and that kind of bought me some time.
Guest:Did you get on a roll with him?
Guest:I did.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You were that guy on the commercial for a while.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:There's that guy again.
Marc:That was your that was that was my thing.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:I had a commercial in New York that they used to play before the movies.
Guest:And it was called inconsiderate cell phone man.
Guest:And it was just me being a jackass on my cell phone talking really loud.
Marc:This is it.
Guest:tell everyone to be quiet telling everybody yep to turn your phone there's a movie commercial that's right it's a movie commercial so that was like my first like one of my first pain so you're walking around new york and people like dude dude hey consider it's no everybody said like uh uh uh insensitive cell phone no one could ever get it right right so uh so but yeah so that was my thing for like a few people everybody called me that
Guest:It was great.
Marc:So you're improving, you're making money doing commercials that you're not comfortable with, but you can't fight it.
Marc:No, you can't fight it.
Marc:And of course, everyone in that world is sort of like, no, it's good, dude.
Guest:It's great.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I did a really embarrassing, utterly humiliating Olive Garden commercial.
Guest:that it was really, cause I used to try to only do the funny ones, you know, I would just go out for the funny commercials.
Marc:Right.
Guest:And, and like you said, I got on kind of a roll and, but then I did this one for Olive Garden was like strangely sincere.
Guest:And they were like, they, they, they tricked me.
Guest:They let me, they, I came in and they're like, Hey, uh, we, you know, you're funny and you can just improvise, do whatever you want.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Do whatever you want.
Guest:So they let me do that like all day long.
Guest:And then like, they wore me out and I got really tired.
Guest:And then at the end of the day, they go, Hey, let's just, just for fun.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Just for me.
Marc:Do a serious one.
Guest:Do a serious one.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:And I was like, what do you mean?
Guest:Like, yeah, just totally like dramatic.
Guest:And say, the waitress will come over and give you like your soup salad and breadsticks.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And she'll say, hey, what are you guys here for?
Guest:Are you guys celebrating?
Guest:And then you look at her and you go, no, it's just Monday.
Guest:But say it real sincere like that.
Guest:And I was like, okay.
Guest:So I did that.
Guest:And then the commercial came out.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And it's really, it was really just that.
Marc:Just really straight.
Marc:Like looking right into the camera.
Marc:Yeah, yeah.
Marc:And I was.
Marc:And the idea was like Olive Garden's always good.
Marc:It's always good.
Marc:You don't have to celebrate.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:You can come here on just fucking.
Guest:That's when most people go to Olive Garden.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It's usually for birthday parties and weddings.
Guest:It's just a casual place to eat on Monday.
Guest:just mondays wow so um i was i was upset about that people like judge you for it a lot of people started making fun of me um with the just mondays wine yeah yeah yeah are you celebrating yeah and people say hey what is it uh what day is it and i'd say just monday
Guest:yeah it was a bummer yeah but it's hard to you know it's hard to you learned your lesson I learned my lesson don't ever don't ever not be funny not be funny when they tell you to hey you want to try one just for me that's when they're lying to you yeah that's the one they're going to use that's the one they're going to use so when did you start making movies and television
Marc:Well, you and Aziz.
Guest:Me and Aziz and Paul did this MTV show.
Guest:We got our own TV show on MTV.
Guest:This is back when, is MTV still on?
Guest:I think it's still on.
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:Does your girlfriend know?
Guest:No, does your wife know?
Marc:Paul, how dare you?
Marc:How dare you?
Marc:I think it is on still.
Marc:But I'm looking at your credits, but you did some shit.
Guest:with the upright citizens brigade when they had the show on comedy central yeah yeah yeah but total just like background like you know what'd you do for the awful truth oh i was a producer yeah with michael moore michael moore how did that happen well um it was all interconnected a friend of mine from ucb uh was working on for michael moore
Guest:And he said, hey, do you want to pitch Michael Moore some some comedy ideas, field pieces, some field pieces?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And so I said, yes, you know, for sure.
Guest:And I was a big fan of Michael Moore's movies.
Guest:And so I just sat down and I wrote all these, you know, ideas for field pieces, sent them to Michael Moore and just somehow got lucky.
Guest:And he was like, yeah, these are funny.
Guest:Let's meet this guy.
Guest:So that was when I was doing commercials and everything.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:All simultaneously.
Marc:The Daily Show too?
Guest:Yep.
Guest:So then The Daily Show came right after that.
Guest:You only did a few of those.
Guest:Only did a few, yeah, for like six months.
Guest:It was during the first Bush election.
Guest:That was when I was at the Daily Show.
Guest:Why didn't it stick?
Guest:Why weren't you?
Guest:Well, because I...
Guest:I wasn't very good.
Guest:I wasn't a very good field producer at The Daily.
Guest:It was hard for me because back then, you remember how The Daily Show used to be?
Guest:Like way back, you would go out.
Guest:Was it Jon Stewart?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Oh.
Guest:But way back before they figured out
Guest:you know, what they, before they really hit their stride, I think politically, they would do those funny field pieces where you would kind of go out with the correspondent and you kind of like a little bit make fun of the person.
Guest:You try to find a weirdo that was out there, you know, making, drilling for oil in his backyard.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And you'd go out there and you kind of make fun of him a little bit.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Well, that's kind of when I was there.
Guest:And then and then after that, Bush got elected and they were like, we're not doing this anymore.
Guest:And John, I think John was like, we're not going to start.
Guest:We're not going to make fun of people like now.
Guest:Let's let's get political, you know.
Guest:So that's Bush, too.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:With once he got W. Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So so once that happened, then they the show kind of shifted and they sort of became, you know,
Guest:Super political, and they didn't really do those kind of field pieces anymore.
Guest:But also, I just wasn't very good at field producing.
Marc:And it said that you, like, here I'm looking like McEnroe, you did that?
Marc:Oh, man.
Marc:I think I appeared on that show.
Marc:On the John McEnroe show?
Guest:Yes, it's very possible.
Guest:I feel like I did.
Guest:Yeah, we had a friend that said, hey, why don't you guys come out here to the John McEnroe comedy show?
Guest:You know, John McEnroe is a nice guy.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Question mark.
Guest:And they gave him a comedy show.
Marc:Yeah, like a syndicated talk show.
Marc:Like a syndicated talk show.
Marc:I remember, who else was on that?
Marc:Because I remember doing it and being like, oh, you work here?
Guest:Yeah, well, me and Shear were there writing jokes for John McEnroe, which was tough.
Guest:That was a tough job to try to write jokes for a tennis pro.
Marc:I remember the whole thing felt stilted.
Guest:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:And the guests would come on
Guest:And they would they'd be like and we'd be like, hey, here's a funny idea for you and John.
Guest:And they would try to we would try to write like a sketch for the guest.
Guest:Right, John.
Guest:And it would never go well.
Guest:Right.
Guest:But that was like a very short lived show.
Guest:And right.
Guest:But, you know, again, back then I was just like, yeah, if I'm if I can make a check, get a paycheck.
Marc:But you're also doing funny movies, little things.
Guest:Well, then I just started to pop up.
Guest:Like through UCB, I started to get little breaks.
Guest:Like McKay started directing movies, you know?
Guest:Right.
Guest:And you knew him at UCB?
Guest:I knew him from the comedy world at UCB.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And so I started to get like little, little cameos and like the other guys with Will Ferrell and stuff like that.
Guest:And so I started kind of popping up doing that.
Guest:And then around that same time, me and Paul and Aziz did Human Giant.
Guest:And that kind of opened up a lot of doors for us in the comedy world.
Guest:We started getting like more opportunities like on sitcoms and stuff like that.
Marc:It kind of blew up and it helped Aziz to stand up.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And he had long, weird mullet hair.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And then Paul, he didn't have any hair.
Marc:He didn't have any hair at that point.
Marc:At that point.
Marc:You had your white guy hair.
Marc:I had my white guy hair.
Marc:It's all about the hair.
Guest:You love guys' haircuts.
Guest:I do.
Guest:I take it in.
Guest:But that show helped us out a lot.
Guest:That show helped us kind of all get together.
Guest:going you built that at ucb we um we would test yeah we would go out with our we had we use the same director the guy that created the show this jason wallner who's super funny smart writer and director and he did other shows like eagle heart that guy yeah you know jason so i interviewed him yeah so we would go out and uh we would shoot uh sketches and then we would take them to ucb we'd show them in front of a live audience and if it got a laugh then we would put it in the tv show
Guest:So that was a great, easy way to sort of best way to do it.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Just show David Sedaris does that.
Marc:Oh, really?
Marc:With his writing.
Marc:Oh, you just do a live reading.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And he'll like, you know, tweak things.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So, okay.
Guest:So it all takes off.
Guest:So, so yeah, so that's how, that's how it went career wise with, with human giant.
Guest:Yep.
Guest:And that got me going.
Marc:And then the other big thing is Children's Hospital.
Marc:Children's Hospital.
Marc:That was big.
Guest:And that was just Friends.
Guest:Corddry was a friend.
Marc:But you did a lot.
Marc:That's a lot of episodes, dude.
Guest:Yeah, yeah, it was great.
Guest:But Mark, those are 15-minute episodes.
Guest:That's not in syndication.
Marc:I haven't seen those.
Guest:That's no money.
Guest:I haven't had a money gig like you.
Guest:I haven't had one of these sweet, cushy podcast deals.
Guest:What about The League?
Guest:I was in like 10 episodes of The League.
Marc:That's not bad.
Marc:Where was my money gig?
Guest:This, the podcast.
Marc:Well, it seems like you've had some pretty good gigs.
Marc:Well, yeah.
Guest:Transparent has been great.
Guest:I do.
Guest:Oh, you're good in that.
Guest:Transparent now.
Marc:You don't watch it.
Marc:I did.
Marc:I watched your first season.
Marc:You did?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Oh, thanks.
Marc:I thought it was good because, you know, you were aggravated the first season.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And you get to be, it's fun to do for me more serious stuff.
Guest:Cause you know, I've done a lot of like jackasses and obnoxious guys and just kind of idiots.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Which I love.
Guest:And I'm, I feel, you know, it's in my wheelhouse.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:But it's fun to do a show where like, Oh, this writing is really good.
Marc:Oh yeah.
Marc:And you can just like,
Guest:and just be in it just say these words trust it yeah yeah and you just like you know oh is this the script hey good job man yeah that's how i thought about glow yeah where you don't feel like oh i i'm not gonna say that yeah that's not the way i would better make this funny yeah yeah yeah yeah so that's what's great about transparent is like it's the writing is really good and the directing like they just make it look amazing it is it's a it's a ballsy show thank you for saying that but uh yeah
Marc:And also you were good in The Descendants.
Guest:That was a good part.
Guest:Pretty good people in that movie.
Guest:Clooney.
Guest:Yeah, he's pretty good.
Guest:Was that intimidating?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And Alexander Payne directed that movie.
Guest:He's good.
Guest:But you don't want to be the weak link in that movie.
Guest:I got to go out to Hawaii where they shot it and I show up and it's Clooney and it's Alexander Payne who's like the best director in the world and then like me.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And so I was like, oh boy, hope I don't drop the ball.
Marc:I thought you did good.
Marc:Thanks, buddy.
Marc:We're not done talking about Clooney.
Marc:So you meet Clooney, nice guy.
Guest:I meet Clooney, nice guy.
Guest:And I thought that very personable guy.
Guest:Seems like it.
Guest:And you know when you're shooting those things and you're in between scenes, you're just hanging out.
Guest:You're sitting around in someone's house where you're shooting and you're just sitting on a couch.
Guest:Next to George Clooney.
Guest:And I remember at one point we were both on our phones and we're looking at our phones and I thought like, I'm just going to ask him for his phone number.
Guest:Like, I'm just going to say.
Guest:Hey, George.
Guest:Hey, George, what, you know, we should have drinks.
Guest:But I lost my nerve.
Guest:I didn't do it.
Guest:I had it.
Marc:Had you talked to him previous or?
Marc:No.
Marc:Have you been talking?
Marc:No.
Marc:So this would have been kind of the first time.
Guest:It would have been the first, you know, meet a guy, you hang out for a few days, but he's really cool.
Guest:He's super funny.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:He's super, he's always doing pranks, you know, everybody says that, and he is, you know, he's always playing pranks.
Marc:You personally hadn't talked to him that much.
Guest:No, but I woke up one day and I went into my trailer and there's a bucket of his urine and it was above my door and it poured.
Guest:Wouldn't that be great if he was like pranking me for no reason?
Guest:Really gross, like aggressive.
Guest:Crass pranks.
Marc:Like just a bucket of shit.
Guest:Hey man, I put a bucket of shit under your couch.
Marc:I know that feeling though because I'll talk to people in here and I don't know how people see me.
Marc:Everybody says you're a prankster.
Marc:Well, no, like what position I hold in the world.
Marc:Because sometimes I'm like, you want me to just email you that stuff?
Marc:Or should I call or have someone call your assistant?
Guest:So you're kind of fishing around.
Marc:Do I get your number?
Marc:But I was like, who should I get in contact with?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Well, you can just call me.
Marc:I'm like, oh, shit.
Marc:Oh, wow.
Marc:I'm going to get Jon Hamm's phone number.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:All right.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Do you ever do that?
Marc:And then I just bother them.
Marc:Do you go through it?
Marc:And they just like text and text.
Marc:Hey, bro.
Marc:You up?
Marc:What's up, Hamm?
Marc:How's it going?
Marc:You up?
Guest:I never, I very rarely will text any celebrity that I've ever, unless- I would like to go through, that would be a great episode of the podcast where we just go through your phone and we just, we don't give out the numbers, but we see who they are.
Marc:Do you want me to get it?
Guest:Who you got?
Guest:If you have your phone handy, I wouldn't mind.
Marc:I feel like it's in the other room.
Guest:I wouldn't mind a sampling.
Marc:That'd be fun.
Marc:Hold on.
Guest:Okay, I'll fill time.
Guest:Hey, guys.
Guest:Mark's going in the other room.
Guest:And so what I wanted to do was tell you that you can call me on my phone anytime.
Guest:I'll pick up.
Guest:I swear to God, I'll pick up.
Guest:two one two five five five one two one two call me right now we can chat we can talk oh here he comes be cool be cool be cool be cool here he is have you been drinking all day no oh that i did have a i came from another podcast where they said do you want a beer and i said yeah oh because i just smelled it and i was like what's he up to wait you smell beer on me just now no is that is that for real
Marc:yeah i smell a little beer oh gross um let's do yours too what do you got okay are we gonna go through our phones why i mean i guess so isn't that the game are we coming up with a new segment on the show well let's go we don't have segments but let's see let's see who okay i'll say one then you say one okay wait wait wait let me catch up i'm in a's okay uh i gotta i gotta i gotta ryan adams
Guest:Wow.
Guest:I got, you're going, you're going, you're going big.
Marc:Nothing in A's for you.
Marc:I got a Pam Adlon and a Steve Agee.
Guest:I got Curtis Armstrong.
Marc:Who's that?
Guest:Man, Booger from Revenge of the Nerds.
Marc:Okay.
Guest:I do.
Guest:I got his number.
Marc:I think I won that one.
Guest:No.
Guest:Who did you have?
Guest:Ryan Adams?
Marc:I had Pam Adlon, Ryan Adams, and Steve Agee.
Marc:That's attractive.
Marc:I have Steve Agee.
Marc:Oh, you have Steve Agee.
Marc:I have Steve Agee.
Marc:Do you have Steve Albini?
Guest:You don't.
Guest:Nope.
Guest:I have Arsh Barker.
Marc:Oh, that's pretty good.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Let's keep going.
Marc:I have Dave Alvin.
Guest:I'm done.
Guest:Oh, I got Aziz.
Guest:I got Scott Aukerman.
Guest:I have Aubrey Plaza.
Marc:Oh, that's pretty good.
Marc:I got some good ones.
Marc:Oh, wait a minute.
Marc:I got a Carlos Als Rocky, and I've got a Jonathan Ames.
Guest:I think I might- Jonathan Ames is my neighbor.
Guest:Oh, yeah?
Guest:You live up there?
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:What else?
Marc:He's a great guy.
Marc:I got- I don't know, but see- Leo Allen.
Marc:I got Leo.
Marc:That's pretty good.
Marc:I got Akiva.
Marc:But you know, Leo Allen actually lives in my old apartment in Astoria.
Guest:Is that true?
Marc:Yes, it is.
Guest:No, he lives out here.
Guest:Oh, he moved?
Marc:Yeah, he lives out here.
Guest:I have Aziz, too.
Guest:Are you worried that people are going to listen to this and think we're dicks?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Oh boy.
Marc:Do you have a Judd Apatow?
Marc:I have Judd Apatow.
Guest:No.
Marc:I have Fiona Apple.
Marc:Whoa.
Marc:Fred Armisen.
Marc:Oh shit.
Marc:Will Arnett.
Marc:Oh, I got Arnett.
Marc:Wait, hold on.
Marc:I got Arnett.
Marc:Tom Arnold.
Marc:Wow.
Marc:Wow.
Marc:That's who I am.
Guest:Is it true that Tom Arnold has the tapes of Donald Trump saying racist things?
Guest:He says he does.
Marc:No, he doesn't.
Marc:I have Dave Attell.
Marc:That's a good one.
Guest:I have a guy from- I have Aukerman.
Guest:I have a guy named Brent from Mastodon.
Guest:Do you know the band Mastodon?
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:I have his phone number.
Guest:Hank Azaria.
Marc:You got Hank Azaria?
Guest:Ooh, you got a good one.
Guest:I got a Bob Balaban.
Guest:Wow.
Guest:You're doing... But you, I think you... Maria Bamford.
Guest:I feel like you aggressively solicit these.
Marc:Lance Bangs.
Marc:Lance Bangs.
Marc:Elizabeth Bangs.
Marc:Sorry, Elizabeth.
Marc:Elizabeth Bangs.
Marc:That's a great one.
Marc:Yeah, but I think that's not a real one.
Marc:You got some A-listers.
Marc:I think that's like a contact.
Marc:I got Toni Collette.
Marc:That's like an assistant.
Marc:Look, I got Toni Collette.
Marc:Oh, that's good.
Guest:That's good.
Guest:Rob Corddry.
Guest:Uh-huh.
Guest:Terry Crews.
Guest:Ooh.
Guest:Whitney Cummings.
Guest:I got that.
Guest:These are great.
Guest:I got Alexandra Daddario from Baywatch.
Guest:Do you know her?
Guest:That's pretty good.
Guest:Roseanne Barr.
Guest:That's a good one.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:That's a good one.
Guest:I got Dad.
Guest:I got a Todd Berry.
Marc:You got Dad?
Guest:I got your dad's phone number.
Marc:That's good.
Guest:I got Andy Daly.
Marc:Oh, that's good.
Guest:I'm jumping ahead to the Ds.
Marc:Wow, how'd you get... I got an Ed Begwick.
Guest:I got Rob Delaney.
Guest:That's pretty good.
Guest:I got a Delaney.
Guest:Dude, Patrick Dempsey.
Guest:Oh.
Guest:I got Patrick Dempsey's number.
Marc:I like that guy.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:I have two Lake Bells.
Guest:Yeah, me too.
Guest:Well, I have one Lake Bell.
Marc:I don't know.
Guest:Got a Richard Belzer.
Guest:Wow.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Hey, wait, hold on.
Marc:I got Rachel Dratch.
Marc:Wait, hey, Annette Bening.
Guest:Wow.
Guest:Uh-huh.
Guest:I don't know how much longer we should do this.
Guest:Are we starting to sound like dicks?
Guest:I think we sounded like dicks when we said, hey, yeah, what famous people do you have in your phone?
Guest:People are at work listening to this podcast going, fuck these guys.
Marc:The weird thing is a lot of these are, I'm just looking at names and I might like Teddy Bergeron.
Marc:Let's do like some of the ones that maybe people don't know.
Marc:I got Greg Fitzsimmons.
Marc:Oh, I have dead people in here.
Guest:Oh, who?
Guest:Shelly Berman.
Guest:Oh, don't call that number.
Marc:There's a lot I got to get rid of here.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Well, yeah, I don't ever do that.
Marc:I mean, either.
Marc:Like, and it's crazy.
Marc:I've passed like two dead people.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:John Krasinski, I got.
Marc:Mike Chiklis.
Marc:I don't have Krasinski.
Guest:I'll give it to you.
Guest:Thanks.
Guest:Lizzie Kaplan.
Guest:Dane Cook.
Guest:Tom Lennon.
Guest:Dane Cook.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know, the next step of this is let's call these people.
Guest:one quick oh you know what i'm gonna skip ahead i have will i am's phone number oh that's a that's a good one i'm going i'll skip ahead i have alexander payne's phone number let's call him well you were in the movie okay i win jean-claude van damme you do end of game you do yep that is that's the end of this game jean-claude van damme oh nope david wayne i beat myself hold on i'll beat both of them bob saget wow yeah saget i don't know him nice guy yeah
Marc:Great guy.
Guest:I have Kristen Wiig's number.
Guest:We could call her right now.
Marc:How about Tom Sharpling?
Marc:Do you have Kristen Wiig's phone number?
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Do you want it?
Marc:No.
Guest:Maybe after.
Guest:You know, I love her.
Guest:I can't say that we're pals.
Guest:I think we're neighbors.
Guest:I mean, we're pals, but I don't see her very often.
Guest:Why do you have her phone number?
Marc:I did a table read for her.
Marc:I have her phone number, too.
Marc:So never mind.
Guest:Man, this is not a competition.
Marc:It isn't.
Marc:I thought that's why we did it.
Guest:Do you mind if I take this idea and I start my own podcast called Contact List?
Marc:Yeah, do it.
Marc:The thing is, I don't call or reach out to any of those people because I'm terrified.
Guest:Me too.
Guest:I'm too intimidated.
Marc:Why would you do it?
Guest:Why would I call them?
Guest:I'm not going to call Alexander Payne.
Guest:All right, so wait, what's this new show?
Guest:Let's get out of here.
Guest:The new show I did is called Do You Want to See a Dead Body?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And it's on YouTube Red.
Guest:What's the premise?
Guest:Well, did you ever see the movie Stand By Me?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:So it's a bunch of kids.
Guest:Uh, good.
Guest:They go out in the woods and they, they know about a dead body.
Marc:The whole movie is getting to the dead body.
Marc:That's right.
Guest:Jerry O'Connell shout out.
Guest:And, uh, so I did a TV show based on that, but a comedy version of that where I take different, uh, uh, famous people out to find a dead body, a different dead body every week.
Guest:And, uh, and that's the setup of the show.
Guest:It's scripted.
Guest:It's not like a reality show or anything like that.
Marc:You're not fooling them into thinking you know where a real dead body is?
Guest:No, although Jeffrey Tambor wanted to do the show, and we couldn't work it out.
Guest:He wanted too much money.
Guest:No, that's not true.
Guest:Just schedule-wise.
Guest:But he did ask me.
Guest:I thought it was adorable.
Guest:He said...
Guest:can i ask how these people died and i said oh jeffrey it's not actually a dead but like well you know it's either actors pretending to be dead or you know we get like one of those csi like you know uh decomposing you know fat guy you know that washed up on the beach something like that and he said ah now i get it so uh
Marc:He wanted to prepare.
Guest:He wanted to prepare, you know, like, how am I going to behave when I see this person?
Guest:So it's not really about, you know, there's no, we don't ever know how the person got killed.
Guest:No one ever asked me how I know where all these bodies are.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It's just an absurd premise for hanging out with somebody.
Guest:So it's me and we shot a bunch of these episodes.
Guest:They're all like 15, 20 minutes, but it's like Adam Scott, all the people I just read to you in my phone.
Guest:Sure, the funny crew.
Guest:The funny crew, Rob Corddry, Randall Park, John Cho, Terry Crews, Lil Rel, Judy Greer, Michaela Watkins.
Guest:I love her.
Guest:uh uh yeah so it's all all of our funny friends yeah uh going out on a on a really dumb uh quest to find a different dead body with me how'd it come out uh it's my favorite thing like i've ever done okay it's really so dumb and so funny because it's it's for youtube red which is like their pay yeah version i think you pay like i don't know 10 bucks or something
Guest:and they literally were a year uh i think forever and uh and they but they were just you know it's a new it's one of those new platforms so they're like yeah uh we want people like they're trying to get people that are not youtube stars to do shows there so you know they're like you mean people that
Guest:people have heard of yeah so they're like do whatever you want say whatever you want so you know it's the craziest show i've ever done and uh and it's just super funny like it has nothing to do with anything there's no uh there's no commentary on the real world or politics or anything it's literally just me one-on-one with someone else and we're both acting like idiots oh that's great and it's uh super fun yeah
Marc:That's just pure funny.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Thank you.
Marc:Well, I didn't see it.
Guest:Thank you.
Marc:You think my name is Steve.
Marc:It's been great talking to you, Steve.
Marc:I enjoyed it.
Marc:So don't steal my giant marble.
Marc:I'm not going to.
Guest:I am going to steal this knife.
Guest:no no he can't take in this hammer no there's a lot of there's a unusual amount of weapons in here for a guy that for i will say for a guy that interviewed the president united states they took them all out they took out the hammer yeah and the knife and the knife sure did you did you play the guitar i don't remember no you didn't say hey hey man let's hang out hey man you want to hear me riff yeah let's sing i don't do that only with guitar players sometimes yeah yeah who's the most famous person you ever played with
Marc:uh i play you can say anybody look in your phone i played with jimmy vaughn recently that was exciting for me wow um the most famous person i ever but are you gonna go pro no guitar wise i don't think i can no too late i mean i'd like to play with people and i played with somebody recently but i found it a little intimidating i kind of pussed out
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Ever.
Guest:You ever play on stage with people?
Marc:Yeah, I have.
Marc:Like in sort of like a live aid situation?
Marc:Yeah, play with Grant Lee Phillips and Mark Rivers.
Marc:What, like Farm Aid?
Marc:Not at Farm Aid.
Marc:No, it was Greg Behrens used to do a Bring the Rock thing.
Marc:Yeah, where you tell a story and then play.
Guest:Yep.
Marc:Yeah, I'll put together a great band.
Marc:I play with Brendan Small.
Marc:Wow.
Marc:And that crew.
Guest:Oh, wow.
Guest:Those guys are.
Marc:Yeah, but it's good to play with good guys.
Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marc:But he used to do a similar type of show.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Does your girlfriend, does she enjoy it when you play or is she annoyed when you play?
Marc:she's fine with it i you know she doesn't like when i do it while we're watching television right even if it's electric with not plugged in but you don't like whip out your guitar and play for her and she's like oh no she's like she gets like emotional no no no yeah no i at the beginning you do that yeah and then you put it and then once you like once it's like
Marc:Once you're like, I'm pretty good at this, right?
Marc:It's like, yeah, you're pretty good.
Marc:Yeah, stop playing.
Guest:Please stop playing Smoke on the Water.
Marc:Please stop playing Smoke on the Water.
Marc:Please stop playing your dumb blues noodling.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:All right, well, I'm glad everything worked out with your kid and things are good for you.
Marc:And it was, again, great talking to you, Steve.
Guest:Thank you for having me, Jim.
Marc:Okay, see, I told you that was fun.
Marc:I never hung out with him.
Marc:Now I feel like we should hang out more.
Marc:I don't know if that'll happen.
Marc:Yes, I can play a little guitar.
Marc:Clean, though.
Marc:I'm going to play clean.
Marc:All right, clean.
Marc:Clean.
Clean.
guitar solo
Marc:Boomer Lives!