BONUS The Friday Show - Don't Know Where, Don't Know When
Guest:Terry, who pointed out that this was the first good podcast about a podcast he ever listened to.
Guest:So thank you for that.
Guest:I'm glad we have that distinction.
Guest:That's great.
Guest:Hello, Chris.
Guest:Hello, Brendan.
Guest:So let's do this one more time, right?
Guest:For the last time we're doing this.
Guest:You know, the sad thing is it's the last time for people listening to us.
Guest:The thing that's like hard for me to like, you know, feel a certain way about this is that it's like...
Guest:It's not the last time for us.
Guest:We do this all the time.
Marc:All the time.
Marc:Off mic.
Marc:It is quite fun.
Guest:So I do apologize to everyone out there for no longer giving you access to the ramblings of Chris and Brendan.
Guest:But this will be the final episode of the Friday show.
Guest:However...
Guest:You can be with the Friday show now and forever.
Guest:Thanks to Supercast, which as of today has officially taken all your feeds, migrated all your subscriptions over.
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Guest:That's support at supercast.com.
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Guest:$3 subscription gets you everything that we have.
Guest:And you can do a yearly option, which has a reduced price.
Guest:I think it's $30.
Guest:So, you know, basically getting two months free if you just want to
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Guest:I honestly felt like when we dealt with a bunch of options of what we could do going forward, this was the best one, especially for the time being.
Guest:We wanted to minimize the amount of movement going on with our subscribers.
Guest:Didn't want you to have to end your subscription, start anew.
Guest:So this made sense to do it with a process that could shift you right over.
Guest:We're very happy with it so far.
Guest:So as long as you want to keep your WTF subscription and get access to everything in the archives, it is there for you.
Guest:Chris, how about you?
Guest:What have you been doing this past week as we've been migrating to new environs?
Marc:Well, I got to say, I was shocked that the last episode of WTF is Tracy Letts interview.
Marc:That was surprising.
Marc:I mean, I'm not mad, just surprised.
Marc:That's the last episode?
Marc:I mean, isn't it?
Marc:Because this is the last Friday show and we recap the WTF with Marc Maron show.
Guest:So you're saying canonically, like for us in the Friday show, that's the last episode?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Although, I mean, I guess it would be weird for you and I to get on the mics after Mark has ended the show for us to then recap it.
Marc:But it does feel weird.
Marc:Like, I guess we're just going to recap it on our own when we hang out.
Guest:yeah yeah i mean like here's the thing too just in case people are wondering like is this mean this that next week there's no show no like i mean honestly it's the fact that we have basically eliminated the full marin as of today like this is a kind of special bonus episode for anyone who's subscribed now since everything is down to one tier and there will be one more uh bonus episode with mark uh
Guest:But I mean, as of as of the end of this, we're like done with our contractual obligations to any kind of bonus material that we had through our hosting partnership.
Guest:And, you know, now going forward, we we don't have a bonus feed.
Guest:So it's like the bonus.
Guest:end of what we do is done.
Guest:And, you know, the show is still, we still have episodes of the show to come.
Guest:I assume there will be an announcement of the final episode at some point, but I know that both Mark and I are not ready to
Guest:do that yet i mean just good on the basis of uh of the episodes we're still doing uh we're not ready to announce a final episode yet so um you know hang with us uh as we said always said it would end in the fall i think we're pretty close uh but we're not done yet and uh the show will keep going we definitely we have two guests for you uh next week as mark mentioned on the at the end of the tracy let's episode
Guest:Jimmy Pardo is, is going to be on next week, which is like one we really wanted to do as like a very close to the final episode, a guy who's, you know, hugely responsible for comedians doing podcasts in general.
Guest:So that's, that's next week.
Guest:And,
Guest:I'll tell you, while we record this, if a text comes in to me that Mark has finished his interview and it was successful with a person he is currently speaking with right now, as Chris and I record this, that's going to be the other episode next week.
Guest:And it is someone we wanted on for a very long time and a person who has a rich vein of comedy history that they could talk about.
Guest:Very glad that we're getting to make this happen before the show wraps up.
Guest:Fingers crossed.
Marc:Man, that's great.
Marc:And I really hope just people keep on wanting to come on.
Marc:And you guys never announce a final episode, honestly.
Guest:Yeah, well, I mean, it's like, it's there.
Guest:It's in the viewfinder, right?
Guest:Like, I see it.
Guest:And then it's just about, like, what are you filling the rest of the frame with?
Marc:Right, right.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Ben, I was also thinking about the WTF is a podcast and the person who bought the one of one where they can do an interview or a conversation with Mark and they'll only get it.
Marc:So only you, Mark and that person.
Marc:And I was thinking like, what if like Bob Dylan fucking bought it?
Guest:well that would be very cool i don't think he did unless he has a very strange uh avatar that he's using to to fake himself because you can see on that page oh the little circle of the person who bought the thing now you can't really tell you zoom in as much as you can you can see and who knows it could be a fake picture i don't know wait a computer enhance nothing's working
Guest:Wait a minute.
Guest:Do I see a Stetson hat in there?
Marc:I think I do.
Marc:Oh my God.
Guest:Does that person have a harmonica around their neck?
Guest:Oh my God.
Guest:Maybe it's David Fincher.
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:He's finally going to do it.
Guest:But hey, who knows?
Guest:Maybe that person will say, I want you to put this episode up on your Supercast feed.
Marc:So hey, who knows?
Marc:That would be really fun.
Guest:But yes, that person can do with it what they wish.
Guest:And I'm actually like really kind of excited about that because I know...
Guest:You know, we'll have not have done this for a long time.
Guest:It'll be several months from now.
Guest:And we will be like, I guarantee we'll all be jonesing to do something like this.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And it'll just be fun.
Guest:It'll be a fun thing to make an episode with a just regular ass person.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And who we know nothing about.
Guest:Like, that's another kind of amazing thing.
Marc:Are you going to have to do research?
Marc:Like, hey, I looked on his, you know, on their Facebook and I saw like from 2011, like something like, what is like, are you going to do the work?
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:I don't think so.
Guest:I think it's more like Chris Gethard used to do a show called... I think it was called... I mean, the name I know it as is Beautiful Anonymous because that was how it was shortened to on the thumbnail.
Guest:I think the long name of it is Beautiful Talks with Anonymous People, I think.
Guest:And the way it worked was he just would...
Guest:make a phone call to someone at the beginning of an episode that, you know, people submitted, like, I'll be a part of this show or whatever.
Guest:And he would just pick someone at random and then be like, this is my episode with this person right now.
Guest:And just have the talk.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And like, sometimes they weren't great.
Guest:And sometimes it was like life changing, you know, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:So it's, that's a great kind of experiment that has, by the way, no space in the current podcasting landscape anymore.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know, like that was the really like, and I'm glad Mark has talked to Jimmy Pardo about this too.
Guest:It's like, that was like the great thing about the early days of doing podcasts was so many people just like were trying things, doing things like improv shows.
Guest:Like, I mean, that's the origin of comedy.
Guest:Bang, bang was like, they took this improv comedy death ray thing they used to do at UCB and put it on first on the radio.
Guest:It was on the terrestrial radio in LA.
Guest:And then as a podcast and like that kind of stuff,
Guest:the best show, right?
Guest:Like I've talked about how that was an inspiration to do a podcast.
Guest:Like you just hearing this kind of stuff, which actually, you know, it brings me to a question.
Guest:I should just read it now that someone sent in,
Guest:And I will get to quite a few of your questions and comments later on in the show.
Guest:But a question came in from Scott, who said, I do have one last kind of weird question, one that I'm not sure you'll be able to engage with.
Guest:Well, try me.
Guest:I was a pretty regular listener to Uh Yeah Dude.
Guest:Now, Uh Yeah Dude, like U-H, Yeah Dude.
Guest:And they would shorten it to U-W-D.
Guest:That was like how you just see that, like kind of like W-T-F.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:For those of you who don't know, it was a podcast roughly contemporaneous to WTF with Seth Romatelli and Jonathan Larroquette.
Guest:And here's the rest of Scott's question.
Guest:Obviously, I listened to episode 380 from 2013 when it came out.
Guest:I haven't re-listened to it, probably will tomorrow, but I have always wondered what the backstory of that episode was and yours and Mark's relationship with them was.
Guest:Obviously another pioneering comedy podcast, but the sensibility, of course, is pretty different from Mark's.
Guest:Was there ever any bad blood?
Guest:I remember the dynamic of that conversation being kind of awkward, but at the time I chalked it up to Jonathan doing most of the talking and Seth being his weird self.
Guest:Listen.
Guest:there was no bad blood that I know of.
Guest:And I don't think there ever would have been afterwards or previous.
Guest:Here's, here's the thing, just going back.
Guest:The reason why this spurred my, my thinking was like, there were so many people of various stripes.
Guest:It was not like comedy camps, right?
Guest:Like the Rogan camp and the, you know, the, the, the Schultz camp or whatever.
Guest:And then, you know, the, the, the, the kind of pod save America and all, like it was not tribal, right.
Guest:It was like,
Guest:there were so it podcasts seemed to be the purview of comedians like there were other podcasts but they were mostly like radio shows and it really isn't until serial popped everything off and people realized like oh we could do true crime podcasts and like i think one of the big there were some storytelling things like risk and
Guest:and the moth.
Guest:There was a popular show called Welcome to Night Vale, which was a fiction show, kind of like Twin Peaks, right?
Guest:But those were like the exceptions, right?
Guest:It was mostly because these were the people who could talk on mics, comedians.
Guest:And, and people in comedy spheres, right.
Guest:Who didn't do what Mark did.
Guest:It was not like this.
Guest:Everyone had a, had a chat show, had a talk show.
Guest:It was comedians trying to figure out what they uniquely did.
Guest:It's how, how did this get made gets birthed.
Guest:Right.
Guest:It's like,
Guest:People sitting around like, hey, we're funny when we talk about movies.
Guest:Let's make it into a podcast.
Guest:So Seth and Jonathan, who were like two friends, they did their Yeah Dude podcast, which I guess like the thing that's closest to that was the Keith and the Girl podcast.
Guest:Another very early podcast with people in the comedy community.
Guest:And there was no sense among the other people doing podcasts at the time that these were like...
Guest:off sensibilities like everybody just did everybody's show yeah so like if you heard if you listen to that episode back then and you're like oh this seems a little awkward like it was all awkward there was no like there was no prep for this stuff there was no template there was no like oh we're gonna go over to mark's and do the wtf interview you know it just was come on the show and talk and it would go the way there was no circuit like right right yeah
Guest:Everybody did everybody's shows.
Guest:So yeah, that's that question, you know, brings to mind a lot of like the origins of this is like, was just like, Hey, this is a small community.
Guest:And that was how we thought of our audience too.
Guest:Our audience was like an audience that knew all these other shows.
Guest:It's why we would get pissed off if we shared guests nowadays, they, you don't care because you know, like, well, my interview is going to be different than the smartless interview or whatever, you know, is doing.
Guest:And yeah,
Guest:Back then, it was like, oh, no, we dropped an episode with a guest the same day Hardwick dropped an episode with that guest.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And it's the same audience listening to both shows, you know?
Guest:So, yeah, that's totally different now.
Guest:And it's in a good way, I think.
Marc:Yeah, absolutely.
Marc:And Jamie Lee Curtis was, boy, she has a lot of stories, huh?
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:She's I mean, I've read an awful lot of interviews with her leading up to that.
Guest:And I think she's like that every single time.
Guest:Like, I think she's just like one of those people that, you know, you turn her on and she goes.
Marc:I loved the, you know, her kind of recoiling at the idea of Mark, like reading comments and then.
Marc:Oh, yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:A little bit further along, she's recanting the story of her doing her last bit of press for the Freak Year Friday.
Marc:And she's like, oh, and the internet, it's the biggest thing I've ever done.
Marc:And Mark's like, oh, well, you've read those comments, huh?
Marc:I just love that.
Guest:I mean, I think, you know, obviously she, I think she's right.
Guest:She probably doesn't engage with that stuff.
Guest:Uh, but like, yeah, sometimes you just can't escape it, especially, you know, if you're publicist or whoever's telling you, Hey, this is what's going on, you know?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:But yeah, like I, it's, it's funny, you know,
Guest:I think one of the reasons she was talking about that is like it became like true that week because she says this thing.
Guest:And like, I don't know if you listen to that whole interview, I don't, maybe I'm not representative of most people listening, but I didn't think there was anything strange about how she reacted to the,
Guest:the charlie kirk thing right like if you hear how her brain works she just makes connections to things and one thing leads to the other so she made this connection to this idea of like the internet is poisonous and she then goes into talking about how this guy got killed and everybody's seeing it on the you know on their phones or whatever and it's just like 9-11 and in the midst of that it's
Guest:She's talking about the loss of a human life and it makes her emotional.
Guest:And she's saying, I don't agree with the thing this guy said or whatever.
Guest:And then sure enough, I see a million clickbait headlines about Jamie Lee Curtis cries for Charlie Kirk or whatever.
Guest:And people in the comments of that are being awful about it.
Guest:fuck her she has a trans kid and you know it's like i don't know man this is the problem like right if you just listen to that it's like that's just a human being a human right like it's actually literally no different other than you know her getting choked up than what obama said like two days ago right
Guest:Like Obama was like, I don't agree with anything that this guy said, but he absolutely, it's a tragedy that he was killed, you know, and it's, he's got, you know, it's tragedy for his wife, it's tragedy for his children.
Guest:And it's like, yeah, that's like humanity.
Guest:Like if we lose that, we're fucked.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I mean, we're fucked in a lot of different ways.
Guest:Oh, sure.
Guest:Right.
Guest:But like, you got to hang on to that.
Guest:You got to hang on to the idea of like, no killing.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Right.
Marc:You know, there's one, you know, like, you know, you can't, you can't go over that line, you know, like that, that's, that's a pretty bad one.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And I will say, listen to the Tracy Letts episode.
Marc:First of all,
Marc:Thank you for, you know, having, you know, Mark, you know, break into the episode early and just talk about Jimmy Kimmel being taken off the air.
Marc:And like, you know, that felt good to hear, you know, him before like, you know, the lock the gates thing.
Guest:Yeah, because, you know, the whole episode, you would probably know this because I was at a baseball game with you on Wednesday night.
Guest:The whole episode was done, you know, so and, you know, I'm not going to get home from the I didn't get home from that baseball game till midnight.
Guest:And so, like, I'm going to get home and but we need to have something on the show.
Guest:So we just, you know, I'm literally sitting there in the stands at Citi Field with you texting Mark like,
Guest:what we're going to do and uh you know that was just his ability to do that and then you know put it up on his instagram as well and uh you know i i think it's actually a good template for him going forward like he when he you know he doesn't have to do something regularly he doesn't have to like treat um
Guest:his treat any incident as like something he has to weigh in on but when he feels the need to that's he's got channels he has platforms right you know it's like it's funny an outlet i'm not gonna say which uh but not a good one
Guest:Okay.
Guest:Reached out to him probably for having seen his Instagram thing and was like, hey, would you like to come on for an interview?
Guest:And he was like, what do you make of this?
Guest:I was like, don't fucking do that.
Guest:Like you control your platform.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Don't give it to somebody else.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Because they're just going to fuck with it.
Guest:Like they want it for them.
Guest:They don't want it for good.
Guest:They don't want it for usefulness.
Guest:They want it to help them.
Guest:And they could do that by just exploiting you.
Guest:Fuck.
Guest:fucking with you you know making you into a villain somehow like don't don't do it yeah uh you have the platform you've already made it you've put it out there that's it that's where it stands yeah and that's great and that's good advice and uh really hope he can still you know count on you for some advice uh oh for sure i mean like yeah like that's the thing we're not gonna not be you know connected for the rest of our lives you know right
Guest:And I think that's fun.
Guest:Like that was the thing with the Tracy Lutz thing.
Guest:It's like, I like that it ended with him being like, I'm going to be calling you a bunch.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know, it's like, yeah, there's life after this.
Guest:It's not this like end of the line thing.
Guest:Oh no, I'm not doing this anymore.
Guest:I won't talk to people.
Guest:No, you talk to Tracy Lutz.
Guest:I mean, frankly, that's what we're doing here.
Guest:Like we...
Guest:regardless of how we started this Friday show, ultimately, I think what allowed us to keep doing it was this like, well, we like doing this.
Guest:We talk to each other regularly and like, we can do it.
Guest:Why not just do it?
Guest:Right.
Guest:And I didn't have any expectations about it, but like,
Guest:It's funny, I mentioned this last week, like, I have gone back and listened to some of the early stuff.
Guest:And like, despite us talking a lot about wrestling early on, it just wasn't much different.
Guest:We know how to talk to each other.
Guest:We're friends.
Guest:Like, that's...
Guest:That can translate if you apply yourself to it, right?
Guest:And so, and I think ultimately, like, people do just like hearing friends.
Guest:Like, just with that Tracy Letts episode, like, it's funny that time he busted him up about, like, his dad when he was like, he, my dad, he died, you know, we had put him in a community center or whatever.
Guest:And Mark's like, oh, he died from that?
Yeah.
Guest:like totally like it's like the way you bust up a friend like it wasn't like a joke made on a show it was friends joking and that's great or like tracy's saying i gotta shift my cock around and i loved how mark was like that's staying in yeah that's staying in no matter what
Guest:it was a runner throughout the episode yeah i mean there's no way i would have taken that out even if tracy let's called me personally and was like can you take out the part with the cock i'd be like i would have i mean ultimately if he like put my feet to the fire on it i would have taken it out but i would have highly tried to convince him tracy that's the best part of the episode uh and
Guest:but then the other part i would have cut out like it's it's the kind of thing that we do as a courtesy when someone is like i'm trying to think of something can you give me like a second right so he's taking time to think about i think mark asked him what was the last movie you saw yeah it's like oh the pause yeah can you take that pause out and mark was like nope those that's what makes it
Guest:Totally.
Guest:Totally.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So, but that brings us back to around to what we did here, which, you know, for the rest of the show, kind of want to reflect on that a little bit and have some final words from the listeners on this.
Guest:And it's funny because...
Guest:you know, people I think have stuck with us the whole time saying things very similar throughout that, like, I didn't have any real interest in what you guys were doing when you started, but I wound up enjoying this show.
Guest:And, you know, frankly, you and me both, whoever, because it's like,
Guest:The fact is we just didn't have any expectations with this much the same as starting WTF and probably the same with whatever I do after this.
Guest:It's like probably the best things creatively in my life have come from just not having any expectations about it.
Guest:And I was fairly certain we would stop doing this, you know, within a few weeks, maybe a month or two.
Guest:Once I started to see enough churn from the influx of listeners that came in during our wrestling with Mark series that
Guest:And it didn't turn off.
Guest:And not only did it not turn off, the people who were listening to the bonus material initially were all listening to the Friday show.
Guest:So we just kind of had to open it up.
Guest:We had to make it a show for everybody.
Guest:And I feel pretty proud about that.
Guest:I think based on the reaction that we've gotten, I think everybody enjoyed this.
Guest:And I...
Guest:I'll get your take on this, Chris, but I did want to say this.
Guest:I hope everyone out there who paid $5 a month, I really need you to know this.
Guest:This is just not a bullshit thing.
Guest:It is front of mind for me every single time we do this.
Guest:Every time I put my headphones on, every time I sit down at the computer, it is front of mind that you are paying your money for this.
Guest:And I fucking owe it to you to deliver something.
Guest:That is not bullshit.
Guest:That is like exactly why you were listening to this.
Guest:Because I made sure that you got it because you were paying for it.
Guest:I would...
Guest:I would have just as soon canceled our contract with a cast if I couldn't deliver that because that is the, like, there would be no bigger sin to me than to have your money coming in to this product and you not getting something for it.
Guest:so i i uh i just want you to know that i took it really fucking seriously and i hope it it paid off i i have gotten enough responses from people listening to this show that they felt very satisfied with their five dollars a month people saying it was well worth it that to me um is really everything that's the whole thing because if it you know
Guest:there's all sorts of reasons for mark and i doing wtf which is freely available and it has ads or you can pay for with no ads but like ultimately we have a lot of like kind of reasons that we think about the show why the show exists why the show exists for mark's creativity the reason this thing exists and it has existed this friday show as well as the bonus material that you get on tuesdays is because you paid for it and you were owed it and that's it i mean like
Guest:Great.
Guest:Anything creatively that came out of that is awesome.
Guest:And Chris and I have had fun.
Guest:And I know that like it's been a nice extension of having the podcast to have this.
Guest:But bottom line is you paid for it.
Guest:It was owed to you.
Marc:And to just piggyback on that, I took it as a big responsibility to not let your listeners down.
Marc:And honestly, mostly do not let you down.
Marc:Like I never, ever want to...
Marc:not show up for you and, uh, in, in, you know, as well as your listeners.
Marc:And I, I hope, I hope that, that, that shined through in, uh, in my performance.
Marc:And, uh, you know, I, I honestly, it's, it has been a complete honor to be a part of your show in such a small, you know, you know, in a small way and, you know,
Marc:I don't take that lightly.
Marc:And I am, I am honestly, um, in awe of it.
Marc:And, uh, I really do hope, uh, I, I never let anyone down.
Guest:Well, that's for sure.
Guest:You have it.
Guest:I mean, like you, you delivered exactly what I was saying.
Guest:You, you showed up for work, you know, it doesn't necessarily feel like work when you're having fun, but it was work.
Guest:And like, like you have another job.
Guest:And so like, that's, that, that was a hugely meaningful that you did this.
Guest:And, uh, you know, I think,
Guest:That the both of us, like, just kind of approached it from the right way.
Guest:We kept it open-ended.
Guest:And, you know, it's interesting.
Guest:Like, people now are writing into the show and saying, like, are you guys going to continue doing this somehow?
Guest:Are you going to... Like, you guys seem to do this well.
Guest:And it's like...
Guest:You know, you and I have never really even talked about that.
Guest:And I think maybe it's maybe that's to my detriment that I never brought it up with you or anything.
Guest:But like, I guess I never did because I just don't want to.
Guest:And it's not because I don't want to talk to you.
Guest:Like I said, we're going to talk and do stuff for for, you know, whenever we want.
Guest:Right.
Guest:But like, I don't know, maybe like people don't realize this because we've kind of jumped into the show.
Guest:We've seemed self-assured about it.
Guest:Like I said at the beginning, it seems pretty much the same as it seems now at the end.
Guest:I don't like doing this.
Guest:Like, I don't mean I don't like talking to you.
Guest:Like talking?
Guest:Yes.
Guest:It's the talk.
Guest:Like, like there are a lot of times during the week when we're like building up to like, oh, Thursday's coming and we're going to have to record the Friday show.
Guest:I'm like, God damn.
Guest:I wish I didn't have to talk this week.
Guest:You know, it's just like, I don't.
Guest:And I'll tell you this for sure.
Guest:Forever.
Guest:If this was not a subscriber-only feed, I would not be doing it.
Guest:I am not the person to want to be a public individual.
Guest:I don't... Like, it's weird.
Guest:I think one of the things that works on this recording, on this show, and when I do bonus recordings and talk with Mark, is like, I am like an extroverted person.
Guest:You and I are both extroverts.
Guest:Like, we enjoy, you know, like, kind of...
Guest:we show up in a place we want to have fun, right?
Guest:We don't like recede to the back of the room.
Guest:We want to introduce ourselves to people.
Guest:We want to like be laughing, be enjoying ourselves.
Guest:But like, I think we both also have a thing where we're like, I kind of do just want to keep to myself when I want to.
Guest:Like, I like having that option.
Guest:Right.
Guest:You don't want to be such a public person.
Guest:Yeah, and I just like to have the option even in real life.
Guest:Like, I can't tell you how many times in my life, it used to happen to me in school all the time.
Guest:It happens like with Dawn's friends, just people who don't know me yet.
Guest:When they first meet me, I think their impression is like, that guy's, you know, he's stoic.
Guest:He doesn't even say anything.
Guest:He's quiet.
Guest:And I always think what it is, is I am very discerning
Guest:And I spend, you know, a good deal of time taking things in first.
Guest:And I'm not going to just let my guard down right away.
Guest:I'm not one of those type of people.
Guest:But then what always winds up happening is like, you know, one of Dawn's friends will say to her like, oh my God, I never knew Brendan was so funny.
Guest:Or he's such a, you know, a kind of lively guy.
Guest:And it's like, she's like, yeah, that's what he's like.
Guest:But he's just, I just don't...
Guest:volunteer that up, you know?
Guest:It's a choice.
Guest:And so like I made the choice to do that here on this show, right?
Guest:I made the choice to do that twice on WTF, right?
Guest:The interview after the Obama episode and our 1000th episode.
Guest:But I don't like doing it.
Guest:It's not a preference for me.
Guest:And it's kind of like you hear people say this about acting all the time where they're like,
Guest:If you can imagine doing anything else in your life, do that, right?
Guest:Like you have to love this to do it.
Guest:And I just don't love this.
Guest:I don't love being like the person who puts himself out there in the world.
Marc:So what is next for you?
Marc:Like, do you, like, you just gonna just pause and like take a beat or do you have something lined up?
Guest:I mean, I'm gonna tend to a lot of life that I haven't tended to for a very long time.
Guest:And and I'm going to, you know, enjoy what I can enjoy.
Guest:I'm going to accomplish what I can accomplish.
Guest:And I'm not going to put any pressure on what comes next.
Guest:You know, that's that that's all very important to me.
Guest:That's great.
Guest:And a big, big reason for that is like it's another thing about this show.
Guest:which to me is like a thing where it's like, well, I kind of need to end this.
Guest:It's like, I can't do something halfway.
Guest:So like when we decided we were going to do this and we started, you know, making it a thing where like now I'm making two bonus episodes every week.
Guest:Like,
Guest:There was no going back.
Guest:I just had to do it.
Guest:And I also had to make sure they were always good.
Guest:I couldn't just be like, oh, today's bonus episode is like, you know, we're going to, you know, read some old jokes from a joke book or whatever.
Guest:Like, no, we had to actually have something.
Guest:Right.
Marc:Not be half ass.
Guest:We whole ass.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Whole ass.
Guest:And, you know, it's like the best example I could give of that was there was a time we did an episode.
Guest:It was after Larry David was on with Mark and we did an episode talking about Curb.
Guest:I forget if it was that we had to record real late or maybe it was that I had something immediately after.
Guest:But whatever it was, I wasn't going to be able to edit the show until late that night.
Guest:And, uh, I just remember we started like recording and we're talking about all this curb and I'm like, in my head, I'm like, this shit fucking have the clips.
Guest:Like there's, there's no way this sounds good without the clips.
Guest:And I knew like, I'm going to be editing this at 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock.
Guest:I'm going to have to be up all night if I have to go find clips and edit them in.
Guest:And, you know, yeah.
Guest:And I thought, you know what?
Guest:It's like, we're doing plenty.
Guest:We're doing enough.
Guest:Like we're talking about this.
Guest:It's funny.
Guest:It's whatever.
Guest:And so I'm sitting there and I'm editing the thing and I'm putting it together and I'm like, it needs the fucking clips.
Guest:Just needs the clips.
Guest:And it's like, that was it.
Guest:I had to do it.
Guest:I had to do it.
Guest:And so, you know, it's been to the sacrifice of like, you know, my sleep, my health.
Guest:It really has.
Guest:I, I, I don't,
Guest:say that to get pity from anyone like the that's what the money is for right like you know it's it's not a it's it's not a charity but at the same time like i i i need a break i'm like not a hundred percent well i need to like tend to things and like that's a big reason for it and it's a big reason when you do this for 16 years and you don't let up and then not only don't let up but in the last three years you put twice the amount of work on your right right you know i've been that when you put it
Marc:That way.
Marc:That's 16 years.
Marc:You guys have never stopped.
Marc:And as Mark described it, you know, you're very meticulous in the way you work.
Marc:And, you know, part of me is just like, you know, no one asked you to just keep on doing two episodes.
Marc:You guys could have taken like a hiatus, you know, for six months.
Guest:Yeah, but we've always talked about that.
Guest:It was like it was the, you know, knowing the trajectory of media and audience and routine.
Guest:You do that.
Guest:You are you then coming back and you're starting from a much lower place.
Guest:You're sure.
Guest:But like no one does this.
Guest:You're building stuff up again.
Marc:What's that?
Marc:No one has ever done this.
Guest:Of course they have.
Guest:No, no, no.
Guest:That's where you're wrong because that's the entire game.
Guest:Now, like the, like Mr. Beast has to fucking do this.
Guest:Like, and he's like one of the richest people ever in media now.
Guest:But like, if he lets up,
Guest:It goes away.
Guest:He has to keep making.
Guest:He has to keep doing.
Guest:It's an endless coal fire that you just have to keep feeding.
Guest:Sounds exhausting.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And if you're not doing something that's like...
Guest:rewarding or fulfilling, then it's soul crushing.
Guest:It's not just exhausting.
Marc:Right.
Marc:I'm going to have, we're going to have 16 of the famous comedians be on an Island.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I mean, you know, one thing though, I will say that it's a, it's really part of the reason why I feel like this, uh, was invigorating and, you know, it's not just like talking to you, which is fun.
Guest:Um,
Guest:Like, obviously, we'd never do the show live and I would never do that.
Guest:But tell me if you agree with this.
Guest:There were times doing this, which is not the case when I'm doing WTF, you know, as an editor.
Guest:There were times doing this where it was the closest thing to the feeling I used to have doing live radio.
Guest:100%.
Marc:That's what I would equate it to is like the energy of it.
Marc:Like the fact that we don't have a script.
Marc:We're not like, you know, we don't have a plan.
Marc:It's very loose.
Marc:It's just whatever's coming to mind.
Guest:The plan is a, there's a patina of a plan.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And we fill in the gaps around that as we go.
Guest:And I like, I'll give ourselves a good enough credit for like kind of making these episodes feel like they have some structure because we, but I think that's our training.
Guest:Like we know how to get from a segment to segment on a, on a clock.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And, and,
Guest:i i just like there were times where i'm like this was what it was like when we would do like you know you bring up the floor and i'm like oh that fucking show and then we find the clip and we react to the clip and it's like it has that energy that live energy that like you know you bring up rfk jr's brain worm and i'm like oh i wrote a fucking ai song about that and then you're hearing that for the first time right so it's just like
Guest:those are the things that i felt invigorated by and the fact that they wound up being good and fun is a bonus yeah 100 oh my god yeah it it almost feels like a lava lamp when the the the lava balls like collide sort of yeah oh yeah you know it's like you can watch it for the whole time and they don't touch and then one time they do you're like whoa look at that yes
Guest:Well, listen, a lot of people wrote in some very nice words.
Guest:I will go through the names of some of our very regular listeners who sent in their well wishes, their very heartfelt thoughts.
Guest:Julian from the Sleepless Cinematic Podcast, thank you for getting back to us with all your suggestions of movies and ideas throughout the months that we've been doing this.
Guest:Terry, who pointed out that this was the first good podcast about a podcast he ever listened to.
Guest:So thank you for that.
Guest:I'm glad we have that distinction.
Guest:That's great.
Guest:Nathan from Illinois.
Guest:Ryan, the school teacher.
Guest:Ben, who has written to us a bunch of times.
Guest:Avital, whose daughter loves Weird Al.
Guest:Robert from Huntsville, Alabama, who's going to be our art hookup if we're ever down south.
Guest:Chuck in Madtown.
Guest:I see your names all very regularly and I saw them all come in with very nice things to say at the end of this run.
Guest:So thank you all for that.
Guest:Alec from North Carolina also had a very nice lengthy message for Chris and myself.
Guest:But he did have this question and I figured I'd put it to you, Chris.
Guest:He says social media connection outreach with Chris.
Guest:Thumbs up or thumbs down?
Marc:Oh, yeah, thumbs up.
Marc:I mean, the thing is, I'm a very boring person on social media.
Marc:I don't do anything fun.
Marc:Like, I'll post pictures of my travel adventures and my cats, which I guess this group of people would really enjoy.
Marc:But, like, I'm a very boring person.
Marc:So, you know, if that interests you, feel free to send a friend.
Guest:You're not going to be there as a content creator.
Marc:No, unfortunately.
Marc:no that's not in my but i do think i get the sense from alec that it's just more like people just kind of wanting to stay in touch yeah feel free i again it's what instagram for you that's your main thing instagram is really all i do i never i i think i have a facebook i don't ever remind me though is it k lopresto or chris it's actually just chris lopresto chris with a k which is uh you know like i say my parents don't not didn't know how to spell yeah most people do not get it
Guest:Yes.
Guest:I mean, we're doing an audio show, so I don't blame them.
Guest:But most comments come in with C-H-R-I-S.
Marc:I mean, that's fine.
Marc:I get it.
Marc:You know, everyone spells it wrong.
Marc:Chris Christopherson got it right twice somehow.
Guest:you do how to do it also alec was saying you know any uh any kind of gmail account for the friday show stuff i mean just keep you we're not ending that wtf pod gmail so you know you can you can keep that um i will probably no longer check the uh the the google doc that is the link to this show like i mean kind of
Guest:Once I'm not, once we're not doing the show anymore, I got no reason to post that link.
Guest:So just send stuff to the WTF pod at Gmail address.
Guest:That should be fine.
Guest:Alec did say congratulations on your well-deserved breaks and so sorry about your career, Brendan.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:My son's belief that my career was over.
Marc:You self-canceled yourself.
Marc:I did, yeah.
Guest:Eric says, every time I see Hulk Hogan for the rest of my life, I'll have the honor of knowing that I was the first to break the news of his death to Chris via Instagram.
Marc:Yep, that is in fact what happened.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:There you go.
Guest:You guys are connected for life.
Guest:This unnamed person had this question, and I figured we could give it a shot.
Guest:Said, I know there is no other podcast that can take the place of WTF, but are there any you can recommend for us longtime listeners, those of us who are bewildered and distraught by the wilderness of mostly mindless choices out there?
Guest:So, I don't know.
Guest:Chris, do you have any...
Guest:thing that you can offer up to people as a, you know, suggestion?
Marc:I mean, I'm, I'm in the same shoes as everyone else.
Marc:I am, I am, I don't know what to, uh, fill the time with.
Marc:Like I said, uh, the best show, uh, last week, um, I, I'll, I'll, uh, start to listen to, but, uh, I've, I've always been a fan of how did this get made?
Marc:You know, they, these, you know, those three people, uh,
Marc:and their guests are just effortlessly funny.
Marc:I think Jason Manzoukas might be the funniest person alive.
Guest:Like that's very high, high, highly possible.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Like he is like a man crush of mine.
Marc:Um, but like, it's, it's honestly just your mileage will vary.
Marc:Like, you know, the cinephiles is out there, like whatever you're, you know, I'm, I'm into baseball, so I'll listen to like a baseball
Marc:football podcast sort of thing.
Marc:I'm, I'm interested in food and, you know, I listened to like home cooking back in the day.
Marc:Haven't, haven't, uh, picked it up, but like, I'm, I'm just thumbing through all of my, uh, my podcasts.
Marc:I'm like, I don't know.
Marc:There's just, it, it just kind of, I, I feel like there's nothing is going to replace WTF, uh,
Guest:Well, but here's I think you're saying very similar to what I was going to say, which was like, I don't have a suggestion of an individual show because the things that are the kind of replacements for me, whether it's for WTF or any other show that I've I've listened to something and then it falls away and I replace it with something.
Guest:It's replaced based on my interest.
Guest:right and so my biggest suggestion to anyone is like what do you like what do you if you had your druthers and could listen to people talk about anything what would that thing be before you decide on the show and then you go find the show based on that interest and
Guest:I guarantee there's something out there for you for whatever it is you're interested in.
Guest:And there are communities that talk about it.
Guest:There are, like, you can find something that you like.
Guest:You know, my wife Dawn, she likes Buffy the Vampire Slayer, found a Buffy podcast that she loved.
Guest:And you know what?
Guest:It's coming to an end because they've gone through all the episodes.
Guest:And she was like, oh, I'm going to miss my Buffy podcast, right?
Guest:But she'll find something else, right?
Guest:So, like, that's...
Guest:all you got to do you got to just check what's in yourself what you like what you want to you know hear do enjoy and just go for it yeah i remember i tried listening to the james bonding uh podcast and i i just realized i didn't like james bond that much yeah yeah that happened to me with a with a one that people always recommended it to me it was called the star wars minute and
Guest:And the idea was each episode was about one minute of the Star Wars saga.
Guest:Like they would just go through it in order.
Guest:And I thought that's a cool idea.
Guest:And I started listening to it and I realized it was nothing against the hosts of that show, but it was just like...
Guest:I don't like Star Wars.
Guest:Like I'm not this into Star Wars.
Guest:I'm not so into it that I need to hear like this broken down like this every episode.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I did that with one of the Superman movies.
Marc:Like it might've been like Batman v Superman.
Marc:And I was just like, oh no, I'm not a fan this way.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Right, right.
Marc:Also, you know, they're Snyder fans above Zack Snyder fans.
Guest:That's right.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I'm not a bag.
Guest:Well, let me run through some other nice messages we got.
Guest:I want to point these out specifically.
Guest:Darcy, who I have met personally at Mark's taping at the Bam Harvey.
Guest:And she said, nice meeting you, Brendan.
Guest:Your hard work has given me 14 years of weekly structure and lots of insight and laughs.
Guest:So I appreciate that, Darcy.
Guest:And she said, and Chris, may all your travels fulfill you even more.
Guest:Thanks for being here.
Guest:And this, I thought, was the most important part of what she wrote.
Guest:I feel...
Guest:I feel a sense of satisfaction from this.
Guest:You both got me back to the movies in a seat next to strangers.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:Oh my God.
Marc:First of all, can I just say, excuse me, Darcy is just my favorite person.
Marc:Like I am such a fan of Darcy.
Marc:But the fact that she's, yes, like that was going to be my like, if I could leave you with anything, it's to...
Marc:go out into the movies and sit in a dark theater with other people and experience a thing.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I know Darcy's from the Bay area too.
Guest:And I don't know how many are still left, but man, when I used to go to San Francisco, they had great movie theaters.
Guest:I think some of them are closed now.
Guest:Like the Castro, I think closed, but like, yeah, nice old movie theaters.
Marc:Yeah, I want to go out to California and just do movies.
Marc:Like, I want to go to, like, all the Quentin Tarantino stuff.
Marc:I want to go to the Oscars Museum.
Marc:Like, I want to do it up one weekend.
Guest:The Tarantino theaters are a lot of fun.
Guest:And speaking of that, Ryan from Halifax, who prompted us to do our entire Quentin Tarantino series.
Guest:series said I may be biased because you always talk about things I'm interested in but I really think the Friday show is the best podcast of its type I wish it was going to continue in its own feed for everyone to hear not just us lucky WTF plus subscribers I hope I've given you a little bit of an answer on that Ryan but it's been fun listening to your entertaining intelligent conversations yes that includes you Chris and
Guest:And I appreciate that you never let the darkness of the world encroach on the show.
Guest:Mark did a great job of breaking down the horrors, but then you guys gave us a break.
Guest:It was a nice way to end the week.
Guest:Brendan, the proactive way you tried to create the life you want is inspiring.
Guest:It's easy to settle, but fuck settling if you don't have to.
Guest:Chris, hearing you judge yourself harshly has made me reevaluate how I judge myself.
Guest:I'd shake my head at what you say, but then I realized I say similar things about myself.
Guest:i hope the future is kind to you both and then this is the real creepy part may every day be another wonderful secret god i hope we don't start signing off like that for everyone like does is that going to become a new thing because it gives me the total creeps every time i see that so mission accomplished if that was your idea there ryan but thank you for that message uh not a secret at all anymore we've just shared it with everyone
Marc:Oh man, that's what I loved about what Tom Sharpling and Mark were talking about.
Marc:Like Tom was just like, just beating himself up.
Marc:And I was just like, oh yeah, that's how I talk to myself too.
Guest:Him talking to himself.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You fucking, you idiot.
Guest:You dummy.
Guest:What a dummy.
Yeah.
Guest:Ava, who has written to us before, I wanted to share what she wrote.
Guest:She said, when I first started listening to the Friday show a few years ago, I didn't think it was going to be for me.
Guest:I'm a 74-year-old woman, so maybe not exactly your target demographic, but I got hooked on it just as much as I did on listening to Mark.
Guest:even when i'm not that into the content i just love listening to the two of you do the deep dives and hearing your dynamic together one of my favorite things is the relationship you men have with each other the way the two of you and mark treat each other and relate to each other is such a great model for how men can be with each other deeply respectful but still challenging always loving and supportive and willing to be vulnerable with each other
Guest:And Ava, I think that's awesome that you point that out.
Guest:And I'm glad we could exhibit it.
Guest:It does make me a little sad that it has to be pointed out as like an exception.
Marc:Right, right.
Marc:Like this is this should be like the standard.
Guest:But could you think of any other way?
Guest:Like, I guess it's like a part of it is.
Guest:We didn't have like we had all sorts of bad media influences and that when we were younger.
Guest:But like, man, I don't think there's anything resembling this like manosphere stuff and just like the kind of like toxic social relationships that the hosts have.
Guest:I mean, I don't know, maybe like Andrew Dice Clay and that kind of stuff.
Guest:But I don't know.
Guest:I never like gravitated toward that.
Marc:Well, I, I used to work at Ron and Fez and, uh, those guys were complete assholes to me.
Marc:So, um, so yeah.
Guest:I wonder if you're, that's for you.
Guest:That's the thing.
Guest:It's like, you're like, well, that sucked.
Guest:So I don't want to go near that anymore.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And you've like swerved away.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I think that, you know, that's the kryptonite and I just go away from that.
Marc:So, but yeah.
Marc:That's good to know.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And yeah, I will say our conversations have always just felt effortless.
Marc:So, you know, it just feels very free and, you know, easy breezy.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:For lack of a better term.
Guest:Well, again, everyone who wrote in, I really thank you.
Guest:That's not just people who wrote in now.
Guest:Anyone who's written in at any time, people who stuck with us and listened to us and enjoyed us, it really, really means a lot that we were able to kind of deliver for you and also create something here where you felt like it was a nice part of your week.
Guest:Sean wrote in, and I feel like this was like a great way to kind of sum everything up, not just about what we do here on Twitter,
Guest:Fridays, but just the WTF experience overall and basically what is left from us doing this, what gets where you can take this from here.
Guest:So Sean wrote, I'm a late comer to WTF and a fairly recent subscriber of the Friday show.
Guest:I came to it about halfway through your rundown of Tarantino movies.
Guest:Can't exactly remember which episode I started with, but I was instantly a huge fan.
Guest:It's a little odd, actually, because while I became a huge fan of WTF and Mark, I kind of eased into the main show slowly, listening to an episode here and there, usually skipping the monologues when I did to avoid the ads.
Guest:And I did that for a few years before I finally figured out how fucking great the show is when you don't skip the monologues and when you listen to the episodes with guests you've never heard before.
Guest:I got there eventually.
Guest:Anyhow, just wanted to say thanks for the show.
Guest:I genuinely love listening to you guys chat, hearing a little bit about the behind the scenes stuff with WTF and getting your takes on movies and what have you.
Guest:I'm happy that you guys are wrapping up the show when and how you want to and that you're all in a good place and able to do that.
Guest:Also sad to see it go, obviously.
Guest:Just wanted to say thanks, though, for all of it and specifically the Friday show, which has been such a nice break from all the bullshit happening in the world.
Guest:Just hearing two good people have funny conversations about the kind of shit friends talk about.
Guest:And it has really been a nice little break each week from all the aforementioned bullshit.
Guest:Thanks.
Guest:Also, thanks for making sure the show will still be out there.
Guest:I have already started preparing to fill the WTF hole that's about to be left in my life with the back catalog.
Guest:I'm on episode 46 and have a couple thousand more to go.
Guest:So thanks again.
Guest:I mean...
Guest:sean beautiful yeah you you basically you know you wrote the you wrote the epitaph yeah like that's it man that's we did that was what we wanted everything you said including like the stuff about wtf which i've like always known you know don't worry about people skipping the monologues they'll come around like
Guest:I've always known all this, and you confirmed it.
Guest:It was very rewarding to read that, just like it was with Diana Moskovitz's piece a few months ago.
Guest:I'm very happy that what our intention was came through, not just with WTF overall, but with what we did here.
Guest:And, you know, it's...
Guest:it's funny because obviously Chris, you were the person I wanted to come to, to do this.
Guest:Cause like, I don't think I could have talked about wrestling with anybody else.
Guest:And that was what we were doing from the start.
Guest:But if that wasn't the thing, if it wasn't wrestling, like if for some reason Mark came to me and said, Hey, I really want you to start doing like a extra show at the end of the week.
Guest:And I've been like, okay, I don't know what the fuck to do here.
Guest:Let me get Chris and see if he'll do it.
Guest:You know?
Guest:And yeah,
Guest:it's quite something that you said yes to something on spec like that.
Guest:But even more so than that, I think it's pretty amazing that like, I feel we're better friends now than we were when we started.
Guest:That doesn't always happen.
Guest:Like money gets in the way or like people get angry about like,
Guest:you know, how someone's running something, how someone's not doing.
Guest:I mean, like part of it is that, like you said, you always showed up for your job.
Guest:Like you, you considered this a job.
Guest:You took it very seriously.
Guest:You listened to all the episodes.
Guest:You made notes on things.
Guest:You came to this site with ideas.
Guest:Like, uh,
Guest:So I'm very thankful to you for that.
Guest:But I just also think like it was a testament to the fact that if you do this with someone who is truly your friend, those things don't have to get in the way.
Guest:You can do it.
Guest:Right.
Guest:I do feel like, you know, we end this thing in even a better place than we started because I know now like I can rely on you.
Guest:We can do the thing that I've done with Mark for 16 years where we remain friends and also have a work relationship.
Guest:It's really great.
Guest:And so like I...
Guest:Cherish that going forward from this, that like we were able to do this and build on our already existing 20 some odd year friendship and and have it end in a way where it's like, oh, man, that's even better than it was when we started.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And then I also have it forever.
Guest:I have this on.
Guest:proof on recordings that we did this and i can revisit it whenever i want which i do i love going back and listening to like us talking about madam webb or or you know the the floor or uh you know tommy cutlets like there's just funny things that like i think about that like we've probably had conversations like that throughout our whole lives on subways at the bars at the mets games and that and it's like oh some of those would have been really great to have recorded them because they were really funny
Guest:And we did, we have them recorded and we have them now forever.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And I'm, I'm just so glad I was able to just show up for you, you know, like a lot of people, you know, and like, I think people can take that away.
Marc:It's just show up for, for someone, you know, that, that you love and that you care about and good things will happen.
Marc:And what will get filtered out is, oh yeah, we're, we're in a better place, you know, like the, the good stuff will shine, you know?
Guest:Yeah, man.
Guest:Word up.
Guest:And I love you.
Guest:I'm very happy that you said yes to this.
Guest:I'm very happy that we did it.
Guest:I'm happy that the listeners got so much out of it.
Guest:And, you know, I'm happy, just like with WTF, that we get to end it in a nice way.
Guest:We're not ending this because the FCC chair just told us we have to stop.
Marc:unbelievable burning i don't know man we got 13 years of wtf that we have not recapped what do you say we keep it going starting at episode one and two i'm joking i'm joking some someday someone will do that i think by the way like i i fully expect that to be like a thing like you know because you just gotta like i said feed the coal fire
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:There's people, somebody out there is going to be like, we're going to go back.
Guest:We're going to start listening to Mark Maron's podcast from the start.
Marc:Of course it'll be on like virtual reality headsets or something where you're in, where you're in the room with them virtually.
Marc:Yeah, for sure.
Guest:All right.
Guest:Well, that'll do it for us.
Guest:I mean, we could keep going, but why would we?
Guest:This is the last episode.
Guest:So let's wrap it up.
Guest:And once again, a very big thank you to all of those of you who listened, to everyone who supported us doing this.
Guest:And I'm sure, I'm sure.
Guest:you will find your next weekly listen that helps you get through your days, feel like you have something to look forward to, and basically know that there's always other people out there like yourself who just want to enjoy themselves and take a little break and get through life in the easiest way possible.
Guest:And I'm very glad we were able to be here and do that for you.
Guest:Absolutely.
Guest:And until whenever it is next time, I'm Brendan and that's Chris.
Guest:Peace!