BONUS Extra Whitney Cummings
Marc:Hey, full Marin people.
Marc:Listen, this is exciting.
Marc:I I had Whitney Cummings over to my place to have a conversation that we had talked before years ago.
Marc:She'd been on a couple of live episodes and also on her own episode.
Marc:But it's been like 10, 12 years.
Marc:I can't.
Marc:It's been it's been a long time.
Marc:So we wanted to come back on and her and I are friends.
Marc:We're work buddies.
Marc:I see her at the comedy store all the time.
Marc:I've known her forever.
Marc:And I had her on and we talked like it got it just we talked and it went on for a couple of hours.
Marc:And what I'm trying to tell you is.
Marc:is that there was this extra 25 minutes of bits and pieces that my producer, Brendan McDonald, pulled out of the two-hour kind of bouncing around business that we did, and we're going to make it available, okay?
Marc:So the only people who will hear this stuff are you Full Marin subscribers.
Marc:There are some weird tangents about rescue horses, stuff about past relationships, us talking about our hobbies, and some just basic...
Marc:gossip about the comedy store so uh full marin people enjoy your bonus content whitney content so
Marc:When I just drive to the store, I'm like, I'm going to need stuff for the ride.
Guest:Oh, me too.
Guest:But you never know what could happen.
Guest:There could be a fire.
Marc:No, and it's not that.
Marc:It's just sort of like, how can I behave compulsively on the way over there?
Guest:Oh, sure, sure.
Guest:Or how can my scarcity complex make it so that I'm... What is a scarcity complex?
Guest:What is a scarcity complex?
Guest:I think it's when you sort of are growing up and there was a scarce amount of food or provisions and you're used to having to fight or strategize in order to procure.
Guest:I didn't have that.
Guest:Did you have that?
Guest:Scarcity complex?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Why?
Guest:Because I had family members that were very busy all the time.
Guest:And my siblings and I, we would kind of had to feed ourselves.
Guest:And sometimes it was a limited amount.
Guest:Oh, okay.
Marc:But it wasn't like you were in poverty.
Guest:No, no, no.
Marc:Just no one gave a shit.
Guest:No one gave a shit.
Guest:There was a lot of things of fish sticks was big in my home growing up, and we would lick the fish sticks.
Marc:Frozen?
Guest:Well, you cook them and lick them real fast so that no one else would eat them.
Marc:Oh, I see.
Marc:To make it yours.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah, my mom was anorexic, so her cooking skills were limited, and a lot of reheating, TV dinners, that kind of stuff.
Marc:When did you realize she was anorexic, opposed to just gorgeous?
Marc:There's a period there where she got really thin.
Marc:And then there were the times where I'd see her laying on the bed with pliers, pulling up her zipper because she wanted them so tight.
Marc:And you could see her bones.
Guest:When did it happen that I knew that she was anorexic?
Guest:Yes.
Guest:When did you say, oh, that's not just her body.
Guest:That's a conscious choice.
Guest:And she's...
Marc:I don't know.
Guest:Depriving intentionally.
Marc:Yeah, I don't know.
Marc:I just know that I used to do a joke that never worked where I said, I think for the first nine years of my life, my mom just saw me as her fat.
Marc:She thought if she could just eat less, maybe.
Guest:That's really hilarious, though.
Marc:The chubby kid would disappear.
Guest:Or like she looked at me as the thing that made it so her thighs touch.
Marc:Yeah, something.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I didn't go that far back.
Guest:That's slightly more.
Guest:I think as a woman, that's the thing is you go, oh, now I'm going to be a mom.
Guest:My thighs are going to touch.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:So you don't travel with a dog or anything?
Guest:No.
Marc:Okay, good.
Marc:I'm just checking.
Guest:No.
Marc:Do you have a dog?
Guest:I'm not as annoying as everyone thinks.
Marc:I don't think you're annoying.
Marc:I'm a fan.
Guest:I've always been a fan.
Marc:You're just odd.
Guest:I am odd.
Marc:And you've gotten odder.
Guest:And here's what I'll say.
Guest:Here's what I will say.
Guest:You're getting more weird.
Guest:I carried lots of beverages with me at all times.
Guest:My thing is I like to be self-contained.
Guest:I don't like asking people for things.
Guest:I don't like being needy.
Guest:And I think when you do get whatever modicum of success you and I both have, as soon as you ask for a water, you're an asshole.
Guest:I like being self-sufficient.
Marc:Really?
Marc:You find that in your life that you're like, hey, can I have a water?
Guest:And they're like, no, I just don't.
Guest:I don't want to ask people.
Guest:And I probably don't like I don't want your plastic water.
Guest:I don't want.
Guest:I just I like to bring my own stuff.
Guest:I like to be self-sufficient.
Marc:I like when there's food when I get there.
Marc:I like I like.
Marc:But there's not it never happens.
Marc:But I have kind of food.
Guest:Watermelon that's been lying out for who God knows how long.
Marc:I'll do it sometimes.
Marc:But I don't have a complicated rider.
Marc:I just have raw cashews and stevia ginger ale.
Marc:No, I just, I do like, if people have nice food, I'll eat it.
Guest:What's in your rider?
Marc:Just that.
Guest:Raw cashews.
Guest:That's your whole rider.
Guest:Raw cashews.
Guest:Mark Maron.
Marc:Yes, raw cashews and a six pack of zevia ginger ale.
Guest:Not like a notebook, a pen.
Marc:Nothing, nothing.
Marc:It's the saddest backstage scene.
Marc:And I haven't changed it.
Marc:I get back there.
Marc:There's usually a bag of cashews.
Marc:And in the fridge, there's six Zevia ginger rails.
Marc:And I'm like, they did it.
Guest:They nailed this.
Guest:We could have told him his mom was anorexic based on his writer.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Well, that goes back to like, what do I want?
Marc:Like weird fruit plates that they get at Whole Foods?
Guest:Mine is still- Seriously, tell me what your real writer is.
Guest:A vestige from when I had no money and just use it to buy groceries.
Guest:So it was like scope, toothbrush, bobby pins, like contact solution.
Guest:It was stuff that I just needed.
Marc:It's still there?
Marc:That's still it?
Guest:And every now and then I'll get contacts.
Guest:I'm like, no, I can buy this now myself.
Guest:I don't need to do this on a rider anymore.
Guest:Sometimes it's a venue that I had gone to 15 years ago.
Guest:They still have it or whatever and they haven't updated it.
Guest:But now it's just very simple.
Guest:It's like pens, Sharpies, a charger, bananas.
Marc:I just have food.
Marc:You ask for that kind of stuff.
Marc:I just have food.
Marc:I thought a rider was just supposed to be food.
Marc:You have them give you pants and some shoes.
Guest:I said pen.
Marc:I know, I didn't know.
Marc:But it seems like a lot.
Marc:It's like, could you give me a nice sweatshirt and some slippers?
Marc:I want some Ugg slippers.
Guest:Because if you're going to sign stuff at the end, you want some Sharpies there that actually work.
Guest:It's more for the people in the audience.
Guest:And then if you think of something, you do.
Marc:You still sit and sign?
Guest:I will at the end, yeah.
Guest:For the whole crew?
Guest:People want me to.
Guest:I will just do a meet and greet from stage that's not formal, but I'll stay as long as... So you lean over?
Guest:Yeah, I do.
Marc:For selfies, you're leaning, the weird floating Whitney head.
Guest:Sheryl Sandberg really affected me profoundly.
Marc:Who did?
Guest:Sheryl Sandberg.
Guest:Who's that?
Guest:I'm joking.
Guest:She was the head of Facebook that wrote that book.
Guest:Oh, I should know.
Guest:It was called Lean In and it was like about, it was a quote unquote women's empowerment book.
Guest:But the whole thing was like, just get a nanny and keep working.
Guest:It was for like just billionaires.
Oh.
Guest:Do you actually go on trips ever?
Marc:I'm going next week.
Marc:I'm going to go to Vancouver to go to Tofino.
Marc:I don't usually, I have, I used to go to Hawaii.
Marc:You know, I'd go to Kauai a lot.
Marc:I brought several different women to Kauai.
Guest:Okay.
Marc:There's a history of failed relationships.
Guest:Wow.
Guest:Do you just, it's just, I don't know where else to go.
Guest:It's a beautiful place to fight.
Guest:And it wasn't even that we fought.
Marc:It was just like, if I was going to go on a vacation, I'm like, I go to Kauai.
Guest:And you do it because you don't have to have a passport to go.
Marc:yeah i don't know yeah i mean i don't know where to go where the do you go i don't like i don't i like to i like people i like places where i don't have a big language barrier i don't like weird food that much okay but like kawaii i went with kim i went with mishina i went with jessica i went with sarah you know that i used to like do open mics with misha i know back in the day sure vermont ramada inn yeah uh paul hughes yes the rock the rock yeah i used to do that show
Guest:And I think I must say, like, I guess something I will say to you... The M-Bar, too, right?
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Yes, the M-Bar on Fountain.
Marc:Yeah, with Death Ray or whatever.
Guest:Melinda Hill.
Guest:Oh, yeah, Melinda Hill did.
Guest:Melinda Hill, Natasha Leggera, and I had a show together that we would book at M-Bar.
Guest:But, yes, Comedy Death Ray used to be there before we moved to UCB.
Guest:See you next Tuesday, all that.
Guest:But also, you, like...
Guest:know me, like you've seen me work hard.
Guest:Always.
Guest:Good work ethic.
Guest:You know I was at the Vermont Ramada.
Guest:Real deal.
Marc:You're the real deal.
Marc:You are.
Guest:That's very sweet to say that.
Guest:You are.
Guest:But so I think people that know you like that, their opinions matter more, and they should.
Guest:Frankly, I don't know why I like you so much.
Guest:I don't either.
Guest:But you know I do.
Guest:I think it's because it's so hard
Guest:You love me.
Guest:I love you.
Guest:I truly love you.
Guest:Like, I think we have some kind of I'm not a big past life regression person, but there's something or we have a deep understanding that we're both like, right.
Guest:So masochistic that we can be sadistic with each other.
Marc:There is a deep understanding of something.
Marc:And it's sort of like, I'm just going to, I like all of that over there, but I'm just going to stay over here on this side of the table.
Guest:But I think we also have strong programs in what we do in our recoveries.
Marc:Relatively strong.
Marc:You seem to be working a multi-tiered program.
Guest:As in I cry three times a day.
Guest:Tears three times a day.
Marc:It seems like your quest for self-actualization and self-realization is, you draw from a lot of disciplines.
Guest:It's all just for restraint.
Marc:To stop you from what?
Guest:To stop me from what I would do with money if I didn't have restraint.
Marc:Didn't you build a climbing wall for a boyfriend or something?
Marc:A rock wall?
Guest:I bought one, yeah.
Marc:I just hear bits and pieces.
Guest:And that's not a reference to my fake tits, by the way.
Guest:It's an actual climbing wall.
Marc:But that guy's gone, right?
Guest:Doesn't matter?
Guest:And it's out.
Marc:So you leave the wall there?
Guest:The wall's still there.
Guest:It's very symbolic.
Guest:It is very symbolic.
Guest:I might just open a gym at my house or something.
Marc:Do you have a gym at your house?
Guest:It is a wild album.
Guest:It is such a symbol of how off my love language is.
Guest:An empty rock climbing wall that no one is using.
Guest:Two months in, I will buy you your dream machine or cumbersome activities.
Marc:Sure, the metaphor of a rock climbing wall for a relationship that fails is pretty great.
Marc:So he just couldn't hang on, that guy.
Marc:I gave him everything.
Guest:It was like trying to squeeze water from a stone.
Guest:Yeah, couldn't do it.
Guest:It's like the metaphors just never end.
Guest:And the only thing that would make it more poignant is he was a Trump supporter and I built a wall.
Guest:I've got it in my backyard.
Marc:Okay, so going back, like,
Guest:But I also believe in taking space and getting back and trying again and taking space and trying again.
Marc:Yeah, but you've been with some hardcore dudes.
Marc:I've also been with a lot of gay guys.
Marc:They were gay coming in?
Guest:I think I've definitely... I mean, if you date me, you're a little gay.
Guest:I'm a drag queen.
Marc:Are you?
Guest:Kinda.
Marc:I guess, maybe.
Marc:But how does that go for you?
Guest:I just have some drag queen energy.
Marc:Right, but do these guys, do they cut it?
Marc:I mean, how long do you guys hang out?
Marc:How long does it work out, generally speaking?
Guest:I mean, how long?
Marc:When I lock in, I lock in.
Marc:Then I just can't get out.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You have trouble breaking up with people.
Marc:It has to get to a point where I feel nothing or I've blown everything up.
Marc:Either the building's on fire or I'm like, I don't even have any feelings anymore.
Guest:What do you do when you work out?
Guest:You do your thing outside?
Marc:Well, that's just a body workout.
Marc:I go up this hill two or three days a week.
Marc:There's an incline, a 50-minute incline, and then you have about 20 down.
Marc:Yeah, but I'm a little deli right now.
Marc:It's kind of bothering me, but I'll be okay.
Guest:I'm definitely in the market for hobbies, calming hobbies.
Guest:Like what?
Guest:Have you seen the list?
Guest:What's on that list?
Guest:Did you make a list?
Guest:Do you have any hobbies you haven't turned into businesses?
Marc:All of them.
Marc:I play guitar, and I'll go hike.
Marc:I love to cook.
Marc:I listen to a lot of music.
Marc:I do have things that I do.
Marc:I'll sit and watch a movie and play guitar at the same time, just practicing things.
Marc:And I can sit and listen to a record.
Marc:Cooking I love.
Guest:I'm trying to get a hobby that I'm not going to try to get great at.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:That I'm just going to be dumb at.
Marc:What are the options?
Guest:I don't know, like skee-ball?
Marc:People love that pickleball.
Guest:I don't even know what that is.
Guest:I don't either.
Guest:It feels like an Instagram.
Marc:No, it's not.
Marc:It's like a smaller tennis court.
Marc:My brother was a pro tennis player when he was a kid, and he loves this pickleball.
Guest:That is wild.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Did your parents push him to do it?
Marc:He pushed him, yeah.
Marc:He pushed him.
Marc:He was at Nick Bolateri's tennis institute.
Marc:He did the whole fucking thing.
Guest:Older, younger?
Marc:Younger.
Marc:Wow.
Marc:But eventually he just realized he didn't have the genetic gifts necessary to keep going.
Marc:But he's one of those guys that he played so much that him just...
Marc:hitting the ball around with anybody it's like holy shit but he's really locked into this pickleball and I guess it's a big craze an athletic craze I don't enjoy most I don't enjoy things a lot of people enjoy like I don't enjoy karaoke I don't enjoy scares me
Guest:Ping-pong is so annoying to me.
Marc:I've been playing guitar with people, which I'm not great at, but I'm getting better at.
Marc:That's been good.
Guest:Do you have to be friends with the people, or would you rather not know them?
Marc:No, no.
Marc:I mean, there's a couple musicians that Flanny hooked me up with, and...
Marc:And we play at Largo every few months, five or six songs.
Marc:And that was a big fear of mine that I've sort of moved through and learning how to play with other people is okay.
Guest:Yeah, like that must be such a like.
Marc:It's cool.
Guest:As being someone who's normally just completely in charge and the only one on stage.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like to be able to just allow.
Marc:But like I appreciate music to a point where I understand what's needed.
Guest:Do you go see live shows a lot?
Marc:I don't.
Guest:You don't.
Marc:I don't know.
Marc:I get exhausted.
Marc:I'm just sort of like, all right, half hour, and then I want to go.
Marc:It's a lot.
Marc:It's enough.
Marc:I think that's a lot of older.
Guest:Yeah, we don't really go see entertainment.
Marc:Not much.
Guest:It's an odd thing, because to me, I'm always like, what do comedians do for entertainment?
Guest:We don't get to...
Guest:enjoy stand-up.
Guest:What is our stand-up?
Marc:I kind of do, though, sometimes.
Marc:I don't fully acknowledge just how much of my spiritual, social, and emotional food is just going to that fucking dark hole three or four days a week.
Marc:I mean, it really does a lot of things for me on a lot of levels.
Marc:And I don't mind watching certain people.
Marc:And I kind of like being around.
Marc:I like being that that's home.
Guest:Can you watch people before you go on?
Marc:Sure.
Guest:And just enjoy it instead of going like, oh, well, now that they left at that.
Marc:No, I don't notice that too much.
Marc:If I do, I can adjust.
Marc:But I like to see what people are up to and sort of like whether or not.
Marc:I mean, I don't watch whole acts.
Marc:Sometimes I do.
Marc:But there's not.
Marc:I'm trying to think if there's people around.
Guest:We're putting on pants to go enjoy a thing.
Guest:That someone else is, because we do this brain share thing.
Marc:I don't do a lot of it.
Marc:I don't do a lot of it.
Guest:Who do we allow to do brain share to us?
Marc:I go to the theater sometimes in New York.
Marc:I'll go to the museum in New York.
Marc:I'm starting to think maybe I should go to New York two or three times a year just to do that shit.
Marc:I know people who do that.
Marc:Go see some theater.
Marc:Go to the fucking Whitney.
Marc:Go do the thing.
Marc:Eat the food that you can only get.
Guest:To see someone do something you can't do.
Guest:I love watching people do something.
Guest:That's why I like Marina Abramovic.
Guest:It's just like, I would never do that.
Guest:That looks like my nightmare.
Guest:Sure, I like that.
Guest:I like that.
Guest:I like watching people do things, mastering something I could never even start.
Marc:I like it too.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I like watching food being made.
Guest:Soothing.
Guest:Have you watched The Bear?
Marc:I did.
Guest:Do you like it?
Marc:It's okay.
Marc:I don't know what they're going to do second season.
Marc:I don't think I'll give a shit about the new restaurant.
Guest:It's like a play, though.
Guest:Doesn't it feel like a play?
Marc:Yeah, like it's locked into that one zone.
Guest:Yeah, like there's not, like, what is it?
Guest:Like, it's just kind of your, it's half food porn, half, like.
Marc:Like, that's the other thing with me, though.
Marc:Like, I like theater and I like, you know, Tracy Letts and I are kind of friends.
Marc:And like, I went and saw his new play.
Marc:And I like Maria Abramovich.
Marc:I like all that stuff.
Marc:My reaction to her was just sort of like her patterns.
Marc:I don't know that anyone's patterns are necessarily going to help me.
Marc:But or anyone's routines.
Marc:Sure.
Marc:But like when I go to theater, I'm like, why don't I do this more?
Marc:For some reason.
Marc:It's not so much I don't like going.
Marc:It's just sort of it's an ordeal.
Marc:It's like, well, then we got to like if I'm going to go see a fucking show at the Greek or at the Hollywood Bowl, I got to get in touch with whatever contact I might have at Live Nation still.
Marc:Get the VIP parking.
Marc:Is there a way I'll pay for tickets?
Marc:But can you get me?
Marc:I'm not I can't go as a civilian at my age or at my pay where I am in show business.
Marc:The one thing that I need is special treatment.
Marc:But I feel like such a dick for asking for it.
Marc:So when I ask for the favor, it's rare, but I'll do it.
Marc:Can I ask you a question?
Guest:Do you feel like a dick asking for it?
Guest:Something that helped me was realizing, like, how much people love helping.
Marc:Sure.
Marc:And it's not that big a deal for them to do you that favor.
Guest:Like, they're so psyched they get to help Marc Mara and get to this concert.
Marc:But the weird thing is, is, like, once you do show business long enough, you know you got, they got, you know, I got 20 comps sitting in any show.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Always.
Marc:And it's sort of like, they do too.
Marc:And it's like, you know, what is it going to take?
Marc:And I'll pay for it.
Marc:Give me a house seat.
Marc:I'll pay for the seat.
Marc:I just want a good seat.
Marc:Yeah, yeah.
Marc:Haven't I earned that?
Marc:We're in the same business.
Yeah.
Marc:It's not even a money thing.
Guest:You know what I love?
Guest:If I'm going to go see entertainment, my favorite thing is burlesque.
Guest:Oh, yeah?
Guest:I love drag and burlesque, but I used to go to this, the Mayan.
Guest:I think they're starting to do it again, but it was called Lucha Vavum.
Guest:Sure, with the wrestling?
Guest:Yes, yeah.
Guest:Blaine Capach.
Guest:Blaine Capach used to host.
Guest:Yeah, yeah, sure.
Guest:But burlesque makes me laugh so hard.
Marc:I wish it did.
Marc:Sometimes it makes me laugh.
Marc:Sometimes I feel kind of sad.
Marc:oh well it's just like a mess yeah i mean to me the more ridiculous like i do like jazz a lot these days and i can go sit at a jazz show where in l.a i'm not here but i mean i went like i listened to it and when i was in new york i just like i got a guy who i know over at the lincoln center at the jazz the jazz at lincoln center so i'll just be like because i don't know enough about anybody the new guys you know jazz is a big weird world yeah and
Marc:And I'm just like, who's over there tonight?
Marc:Can I just go?
Marc:And the last time I was in New York, I'm like, I went and saw some guy play the Vibes.
Marc:And I was like, well, I don't know who that guy was, but it was great.
Guest:Can I tell you one of the most incredible things I witnessed as an audience member was...
Guest:I think it was the Geffen downtown, whatever it was.
Guest:I'm obsessed with Foley artists where they make all of the sounds right there.
Guest:It's like Foley artists.
Guest:They have a giant Foley artist.
Guest:So it's like they score the sounds of a movie.
Guest:So their office is basically like 10 different kinds of sand and dirt and 18 different
Guest:cowboy boots kind of glass and like they had it all up there on stage and it was a foley artist scoring an entire play yeah that was like outside and whatever i think hope davis and a bunch of people were like in it that were fancy but you're like watching this guy like run and like ring a bell it's like the way they used to actually do live radio right like garrison keeler yes exactly and then he's like playing the triangle and then he's like you know ruffling boots it was so cool to watch that's fun
Guest:I was kind of like, well, that's kind of what Caratop's doing now, and he gets made fun of.
Guest:But it was very cool to watch someone with this almost antiquated skill.
Marc:Sure, no, it's great.
Guest:Yeah, I love it.
Guest:Those skills that you're kind of like, is that person teaching and mentoring another person?
Guest:Or is that the last generation of people that are going to be doing that?
Marc:Might be.
Marc:I know that just getting things repaired, old things, like old stereos, there's only like two guys.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And I go to one of those guys.
Marc:I'm sorry, it's going to take so long, but no one else does this.
Guest:No one else does it.
Guest:Like my son begrudgingly knows how to do this, but he's out smoking weed and drag racing.
Marc:I guess.
Marc:I don't know if these guys' sons are like sort of like I can fix a Marantz 2275.
Marc:I just don't want to do it right now.
Guest:I'm obsessed with the green and green, that architect that there's some in Pasadena.
Guest:They're the craftsman homes that have that stunning stained glass.
Guest:I don't know why I have such a thing for stained glass.
Guest:I have something in my ancestry.
Guest:Someone threw someone through.
Marc:My old girlfriend, Sarah, did a big stained glass for the San Francisco, like for the airport, I think.
Marc:Yeah, she was.
Guest:Did you watch her make it?
Marc:No, but she was working with, there's only a couple places that do that shit.
Marc:There's one in Highland Park, like a real old one that she was working with.
Marc:So she would go down there and choose colors.
Guest:That could literally be what I'm talking, these sort of artisans that do stained glass.
Guest:Apparently it's getting harder and harder.
Guest:Like if you need to get your stained glass.
Marc:There's one in Germany and there's one here.
Guest:Like if you had some of this antique stained glass, like you don't get it fixed anymore.
Guest:It just takes years.
Guest:That's just fascinating to me.
Guest:Okay, you might cut this out, but just for your fans.
Yeah.
Guest:There is a very, there's a famous, am I allowed to say that Jeremy Piven's doing stand-up?
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:So Jeremy Piven's doing stand-up.
Marc:Are you allowed to say no?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:If that's what you want to call it.
Guest:Okay, so everyone's been- He's getting on stage.
Guest:Everyone's been kind of like struggling with how to like bring him on and bring him off and so-
Marc:Dealing because of what?
Marc:Because of accusations or because of whether he's a comic or not?
Guest:That.
Marc:All of it.
Guest:Maybe that part.
Guest:I think that one of my favorite moments in the comedy store is when someone's bombing and you're going to go on after them.
Guest:We all flock into the room to see what you're going to say.
Guest:Just as they walk on stage, tail between their legs.
Guest:So one time Piven walked on stage and you just went, keep it going for the actor.
Guest:I do that.
Marc:One time I outroed Adam Carolla.
Marc:I said, okay, Adam Carolla, I guess he's trying stand-up now.
Marc:So that's something we're all gonna have to deal with.
Marc:That's the best part.
Marc:But I'm an asshole sometimes.
Marc:And I know it's like, I don't know.
Marc:It happens like last night, even.
Marc:Like, I got to bring on Brent Morin.
Marc:And I said, all right, so this next guy, he used to have a show on NBC.
Marc:I don't know what he's doing now.
Marc:Brent Morin, ladies and gentlemen.
Guest:You know what?
Guest:It wouldn't be funny if it didn't deeply resonate.
Guest:You just have this ability to fucking get the needle exactly where the sore spot is.
Guest:You know that game Operation?
Guest:There's no burn.
Guest:You get the thing.
Marc:Allie got off stage.
Marc:Have you watched Allie lately?
Marc:It's all about wanting to get dick, right?
Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marc:I outroed her with, all right, that was Allie Wong.
Marc:She's going to go fuck someone in the parking lot right now.
Marc:It's funny.
Guest:But it's, like, always just the most acute, perfect, like, oh.
Marc:There's a lot of sweetness at the store now, and it's very... I like it a lot.
Marc:Like, I just got the lotion.
Marc:There's not a lot of swinging dicks around, and there's not a lot of bad vibe there, and it feels communal and feels like a lot of people are getting their...
Marc:They're fair shake now.
Marc:And a lot of people who were sort of in the shadows are out doing the work.
Marc:And everybody can do the work.
Marc:And even the people that you didn't notice before.
Marc:It's kind of sweet over there right now.
Guest:Yeah, it feels kind of merit-y, for lack of a better word.
Guest:Merit-y?
Guest:Merit-driven.
Guest:And if someone's not...
Guest:the best comic in the world, they want to be the best.
Marc:That's right.
Marc:And they can do the job.
Marc:And also like, you know, it's eclectic and there's a lot, you know, it seems like Emily's booking a lot of different types of people.
Guest:It's very unpredictable and kind of dangerous and kind of like, I never know if I'm going to eat shit or like I...
Marc:But the audience is still coming.
Marc:And it's like it's a beautiful thing because everybody thought like, you know, after, you know, the the the sort of I don't need to characterize it.
Marc:But once the element that had taken over for so many years left that like, you know, well, that place, no one's going to go there anymore.
Marc:But everyone goes there.
Marc:The audiences are great.
Marc:And and even people that they don't know, that's the great thing about stand up and about that place is like you can go watch people you don't know do the job.
Marc:Do you know what I mean?
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Yes.
Marc:Argus Hamilton kills.
Marc:And, you know, like I walk into the room and he's on stage and I'm like, oh, my God.
Marc:Dude.
Marc:What?
Guest:Argus Hamilton.
Guest:What is he goes?
Guest:Look, he goes, I believe in gay marriage.
Guest:as long as they're the same race.
Marc:Right, yeah.
Guest:Isn't that what he says?
Guest:He says that right now, and it just kills someone that age.
Guest:They're just so simple jokes, simple jokes.
Marc:Have you watched Dom lately?
Marc:I mean, he can barely get through a joke, but the amount of leeway he gets, it's kind of beautiful, because no one's going to fuck with Dom, and he's like, stinky, stinky, stinky, stinky pussy.
Guest:I think that the great ironic tragedy I think of comedies, the more we feel hated, probably the more defensive we get.
Guest:We get defensive against people who love us.
Guest:It's like, we're like, everyone hates us.
Guest:No one wants to say anything.
Guest:I feel like the audience is extra like, go for it.
Guest:We're here.
Guest:We'll catch you.
Marc:I don't feel like anybody hates me.
Guest:I just feel like... It's the opposite of Twitter in there.
Marc:I just feel like, you know, sometimes when I go on, I just feel like there's a lot of people going like, oh man, this guy's a little exhausting.
Marc:Like...
Marc:Why is he talking about this?
Guest:Oh, wait, this is what you've been saying after you bring me up lately.
Guest:You've been like, all right, let's just take the room down.
Marc:Take it down, nudge.
Guest:That was an energy level.
Guest:I'm exhausted.
Guest:I don't want you to get used to.
Marc:I have to.
Marc:I have to.
Marc:I'm not going to just sit there and try to ride your wave.
Bye.