BONUS Producer Cuts - Jeremy Strong, Adrian Belew, Denver Boots and Termites
Guest:Hey, it's Brendan here with another round of producer cuts and gonna get right into it.
Guest:The first clip here is from a recent episode with Jeremy Strong.
Guest:This happens sometimes where Mark and the guest finish talking and they turn the mics back on because Mark thinks, oh, you know, we're still talking about something that is interesting here.
Guest:Let's just record it.
Guest:And sometimes it just doesn't work.
Guest:What they're talking about has no real entry point into the conversation that they have already concluded.
Guest:So this is just what happened with Mark and Jeremy.
Guest:When the mics went off, they decided to keep talking.
Guest:And Mark turned the mics back on, said, hang on, this is good stuff.
Guest:And it is good stuff.
Guest:And I just figured you guys should hear it since it didn't make it into the main episode.
Marc:In talking about like, because I'm watching this, the, the, in getting back to the idea of, of self.
Marc:Right.
Marc:So when I'm watching that Paul Newman thing, he was in the shadow of Brando and knew that he wasn't Brando.
Marc:And he had to tap in to some sort of realization that he was sort of a simple, limited guy who had to work from that place.
Marc:And we were just talking off mic for a minute about how we make these assumptions about these great actors and you romanticize that whole process.
Marc:Right.
Guest:Sure.
Guest:Well, I certainly I certainly project onto someone like Newman and onto many actors.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:A kind of supreme, you know, you know, a sort of omniscient ability that comes from that process that comes from that process.
Guest:What do you mean?
Guest:From that crew.
Guest:Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Guest:Because that was the model, right?
Guest:So you want to be like them.
Guest:And so for a long time, I think, like many of my peers, you're trying to sort of model yourself or fashion yourself, you know, after some of these guys, you know, trying to...
Guest:You know, because you worship them when you're a young actor.
Guest:Of course, of course.
Marc:You're just waiting for your opportunity to put on 50 pounds.
Guest:And then you have to come up against and contend with and sort of take real inventory of your own limitations and accept that...
Guest:you are not them.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:You are some version of you.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:And you can, um, I think you can, you can take lessons.
Guest:Sure.
Guest:But, but really what you said about Newman accepting some fundamental basic, you know, I'm not this anything extraordinary.
Guest:I'm not this, um,
Guest:when you, you ever read Richard Ford?
Guest:Have you ever read The Sports Writer?
Guest:No.
Guest:The Sports Writer is this, it's an incredible book.
Guest:At the center of the book is this idea of a person who learns to be within himself.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And so I guess that's what I'm talking about, is there's a moment where if you're lucky, and I think if you are in right relationship to your life, you start to be within yourself.
Guest:And when you're within yourself in a very simple, unremarkable way, that gives you a density that is what allows you to be an actor.
Guest:Great.
Marc:That's it.
Marc:That's it.
Marc:So that answers the question that I asked you.
Marc:You may not think, well, you can think whatever you want to think of yourself.
Marc:But, you know, the journey to what you're talking about, that moment where you realize it's like, you know, when Jerry Garcia went into a coma from drugs, he was in a coma for I don't know how long, and apparently when he woke up, the first thing he said was, hey, I'm not Mozart.
Marc:Well, it's quite liberating, too.
Marc:Well, that's it.
Guest:There's an old adage in the recovery racket, compare and despair.
Guest:Yeah, well, exactly.
Guest:But, you know, a lot of my 20s and 30s
Guest:We're really about getting to a point where I had to let the fantasy of, quote, making it die.
Guest:It became clear on those terms or in general, in general.
Marc:OK, I thought not in the terms of like the the the method heroes, the superheroes.
Guest:No, well, you know, I already knew by then that I'm just the actor that I am.
Guest:Okay, good.
Guest:And that I have to contend with my own mystery.
Marc:So you had to let go of the idea.
Guest:I had to let go of the fantasy of what.
Marc:Right.
Guest:Of what it might look like in terms of life, in terms of the work I might get to do, in terms of ever getting a chance to be fully expressed.
Guest:You had to get right-sized.
Guest:I had to get right-sized, and I had to let the dream die.
Guest:Yes, yes.
Guest:It's that thing of living at your level.
Guest:Yes, and then you can make yourself available for the magic.
Guest:Well, ultimately, somehow, that is what happened.
Guest:But I remember getting to a point where...
Guest:I had to decide, because it just wasn't happening.
Guest:Dude, are you kidding me?
Marc:That's when I started the podcast.
Guest:And out of that, you either in that moment give up,
Guest:Or you commit because you love this thing.
Guest:Or because it's too late to do anything else.
Guest:Or because you're compelled.
Guest:What are you going to do?
Guest:Yeah, and what the fuck else am I going to do?
Guest:But I think commitment without attachment to...
Marc:what it's going to look like well yeah but the thing with me like it because i had this exact thing like you know when i started this podcast out of desperation right i couldn't sell tickets as a comic my career was going nowhere i didn't have dates on the books i was a twice divorced broke motherfucker i was angry i was suicidal and and and there comes a moment where it's like you're staring down the barrel of a very disappointing life
Marc:Right.
Marc:And that's just a fucking reality.
Marc:And that is my biggest fear is an unlived life.
Marc:That's right.
Marc:So, you know, and in that moment, you're like, well, I have to keep going.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It's the Beckett thing.
Guest:It's just like, you know, can't go on, must go on.
Marc:Right.
Marc:You have to go on.
Marc:But the liberation of being honest with yourself.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Which is like, you know, amputating your ego enough to realize like, hey, you know, I'm not Mozart.
Guest:I'm not Mozart.
Guest:I'm not going to get to do.
Guest:I'm not going to get to do dog day.
Guest:I'm not going to get to do any of these things.
Guest:There you are.
Guest:I'm going to get to do this thing that I'm, you know, and I'm going to try and work hard and take risks and in a sense, give up.
Guest:And out of that, you know, it's... It worked out.
Guest:It's sort of amazing.
Guest:You hear... I heard people say similar things.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:You know, about that sort of...
Guest:that kind of experience of, I wouldn't necessarily call it surrender, because it's not like either of us stopped working.
Marc:No, but I think what it presents is that thing you were talking about from the Ford work, is that you go in your... That's right, and then because you're present in that way, then whatever magic you will summon is summonable.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Because now you've made space for things to come to you rather than trying to.
Guest:That's right.
Guest:Great.
Guest:Thanks, man.
Guest:Okay, next up, this is cut from the Adrian Ballou episode, and I can tell you it's cut right from the beginning.
Guest:And this happens fairly frequently with a lot of musicians that come on the show, sometimes with just non-musicians.
Guest:It happens because of the nature of Mark's setup in the garage.
Guest:where he's kind of surrounded by guitars.
Guest:What happens is people start looking at the guitars, and then before you know it, we're into full gear talk.
Guest:It's just like two guitar people talking shop.
Guest:And my feeling about that is it's very specific, almost alienating to the audience at large, especially happening right at the beginning of the episode.
Guest:But for people who like gear talk, guitar talk, they love this stuff.
Guest:So I
Guest:I know I'm talking about a very small subset of people.
Guest:It's now even a smaller subset, considering the people who are subscribed to this WTF Plus content.
Guest:But I just figure, why hide it from the world?
Guest:Here you go.
Guest:This is Mark and Adrian Ballou talking guitar and gear and all sorts of stuff that's very specific and quite alien to me.
Guest:But there's definitely people out there that like it.
Marc:Yeah, I do play guitar, but I mean, I've been embarrassed to say.
Marc:You must play guitar.
Marc:You got enough of them.
Marc:But they're not good ones.
Marc:They're all right.
Marc:That doesn't matter.
Marc:I mean, some of them are good, but I try to get them for free.
Marc:Those are the best ones.
Guest:Almost all my guitars are free.
Guest:Well, you're Adrian Ballou.
Guest:So imagine people throw them at me.
Marc:They do, right?
Guest:As long as I catch them, I get to keep them.
Guest:They do, right?
Guest:Oh, yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I mean, it's like after a certain point, you're like, all right, I'll take another one.
Guest:Yeah, definitely.
Guest:Although right now, I've just had some Fender custom shop guitars made, and I was...
Guest:interestingly surprised to find that they you still have to pay something for a signature yeah so like I said they make an Adrian blue guitar they will next year I believe and you gotta pay for it and what they said is is if you know if Eric Clapton or Jeff Beck orders one of their new models right they have to pay something for it you know really heavily discounted what the fuck that's crazy I know that's what I said too but you know I love fender it's okay but fender's your strats are your thing right
Guest:They will be next year.
Marc:So wait, now, okay, so Fender says, all right, we want to make a blue guitar.
Marc:You're like, okay, you need to put an engine in it.
Marc:What do you tell them you need?
Marc:Twin turbo.
Marc:Bentley.
Marc:A Holly double pumper.
Marc:Yeah, a little of that.
Guest:Yeah, it reminds me of when William Shatner, I did his Has Been record, and he came over to me and he said, I hear you do a lot of wild sounds with your guitars.
Guest:I said, yeah, he's got, well, we got this song that's about suburbia, you know?
Guest:So I want it to sound like a suburban lawn area, you know?
Guest:Can you do a lawnmower?
Guest:Did you do it?
Guest:I did.
Guest:I tried.
Guest:I actually unplugged something in my system and it started going.
Marc:But what do you, but like, I'm just curious because I, you know, I know people that see like that, that sparkly blue one.
Marc:That's a Jay Mascus Telecaster.
Guest:See, I would like that.
Guest:I like sparkly blue.
Marc:Yeah, and he doesn't play one of those on stage.
Marc:He plays a jazz master, but he had those made because that was his studio guitar.
Marc:It was like a 72 Tele, and I asked him if he had one laying around.
Marc:I said, fine, and he sent it to me.
Marc:The custom, the Les Paul custom, I got because I did a video for Gibson.
Marc:They gave it to me.
Marc:I think those are- Nice.
Marc:That custom, I think, is the, what is it, like a 69 or something, the one they always make?
Marc:It's just the custom.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:This thing is a guy in Georgia.
Marc:He made Banker, the guy's name.
Marc:That's the brand.
Marc:Yeah, I see it.
Marc:He usually makes Carina, Explorers, and Flying Vs, but he does this thing called the Leslie, and those are two P90s that were coiled with the same machine that they used to do the ones at whatever, at Gibson.
Guest:But it's something, right?
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Guest:I used an Epiphone on a lot of the new record elevator for their off.
Guest:They've got a five-way switch on them that sort of...
Guest:phases, puts them in and out of phase.
Guest:Did you say Jazzmaster?
Guest:No, it was called a Wiltshire when they first brought it out.
Guest:A Fender?
Guest:No, an Epiphone.
Guest:Okay, Epiphone Wiltshire.
Guest:And it has a five-way switch on it, so you can get these really out of phase guitar sounds that I really liked.
Guest:Right.
Guest:But if I was your friend there that's got the, does the blue sparkle, but he's got a Jazzmaster, I would definitely have a blue sparkle Jazzmaster.
Guest:Sure.
Guest:That would be a gorgeous guitar.
Marc:He's got a purple one that he used to make.
Marc:But tell me, so Fender says we want to do one.
Marc:Did you reach out?
Marc:They reach out to you.
Guest:I reached out to them this time because when I was going to do festivals again with Jerry Harrison, Remain in Light, I knew one thing about festivals.
Guest:I don't do a lot of them, but I knew that you just have to have the least amount of gear and a straight-on guitar and plug in, and there you are on stage.
Guest:You get about five minutes to do something.
Guest:My normal gear is all MIDI'd.
Guest:I have a laptop involved in the whole thing.
Guest:And it's actually, you know, it's one of those things.
Guest:You want to have two hours sound check to make sure that it works.
Guest:Really?
Guest:So I said, well, I'm just going to go back to having a Strat and a simple setup.
Guest:And what's it like?
Guest:A Strat and a pedal board?
Guest:Yeah, it's kind of a pedal board.
Guest:I use what's called an Axe FX.
Guest:It gets a lot of different sounds.
Guest:And then you have a MIDI pedal board that changes the programs where you want them.
Guest:It's really a pretty solid, simple operation for these days.
Guest:So the Strat's just going to be like a straight Strat?
Guest:They are.
Guest:I'm already using them.
Guest:I have three of them already.
Guest:Of the signature ones?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And they are pretty unmodified, but they are made by Ron Thorne, who's a brilliant guy at the Fender Custom Shop.
Guest:And so, you know, you get the neck and everything that you want and all that.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:But the difference in this one, there's two things.
Guest:One is it has a sustainer, which is something I've come to rely on.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And that's in the neck pickup.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And then secondly, we put in the same DiMarzio humbucker pickup in the bridge position, the same one that I have on my Parker Flies that I've played for the last dozen years.
Guest:So that makes it a very untraditional strap.
Guest:You've got a humbucker in the lead pickup.
Guest:And you got a Strat pickup in the middle.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Then the last thing is I was at the NAMM show looking around trying to figure out, well, I really want to get a great new tremolo arm because that's my thing.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know, bending notes all over the place.
Guest:And I was walking around in the NAMM show and in this little corner,
Guest:There were a couple guys from Spain standing there, and they had just a little kind of real estate with a couple things laying out on their table in Stratocaster there.
Guest:And I had a friend of mine with me, and he would always walk up and say, hey, I have Adrian Blue here, and he would like to see you, and everybody would just give me anything I wanted.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So I walked over.
Guest:He was doing that.
Guest:I sat down, played the Stratocaster, and later he said, it's the first thing you've ever played in this show that sounded like Adrian Blue.
Guest:So he's talking to the guys, and they're just kind of like, so, yeah, okay, well, I hope he likes it.
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:And so the next day, we were scratching our head.
Guest:I said, well, they're from Spain.
Guest:So the next day, we went back, and we walked right by them.
Guest:They ran out and grabbed me.
Guest:And they said, oh, oh, Mr. Blue, here, here, we want you to play somewhere.
Guest:And I looked at my friend and I said, they Googled me.
Guest:Yeah, now they know.
Guest:Now they know what they've done.
Marc:And that's what's on the Strat.
Marc:It's called a Vega trim, and I swear it's the best.
Marc:And what makes it different?
Marc:Is it still hand operated?
Guest:Yes, but first of all, it fits perfectly on a Strat.
Guest:Just unscrew the Strat and put another one on there.
Guest:There's no rerouting or ruining your guitar.
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Guest:It just stays perfectly in tune, pulls up, presses down beautifully.
Marc:So you just make all your variety of blue noises.
Guest:Uh-huh.
Guest:They're there.
Guest:They're waiting to be had.
Guest:So I highly recommend that one.
Guest:It's not that expensive either.
Guest:I think it's less than $300.
Guest:So if you've got a Strat and you want to put a new Tremble on, there you go.
Marc:But then people are sort of like, I want to play like you, but there's only one you.
Guest:Oh, you have to have brain damage to do that.
Guest:Is that what it is?
Guest:Yeah, that's what it is, yeah.
Guest:As I've told you before, sometimes I have to cut stuff from Mark's monologue.
Guest:It's usually the first place I go for cutting material, especially if I can tell Mark, hey, do that again, or you're doing it somewhere else, like in your stand-up act.
Guest:And a lot of times it's that he's done it in his newsletter, like it's something that he wrote for his email subscribers, the email that goes out every Monday.
Guest:And I just felt like if there's a place to cut something, I can cut a thing that he almost did verbatim in the newsletter.
Guest:And this was from a recent trip he had in Denver talking about some boots that he got.
Guest:I know that he basically wrote this entire thing in his email update.
Guest:So if you've got that, you might already know the story.
Guest:But here it is.
Guest:For those of you who haven't heard that or just want to hear him talk about it, this is Mark talking about his Denver boots.
Marc:So Denver, I bought boots.
Marc:Now I'm a grown man.
Marc:I'm going to be 59 this week.
Marc:What day is it?
Marc:I'm going to be 59 on what day?
Marc:What day is today?
Marc:Today's 25th?
Marc:Oh, what?
Marc:26th?
Marc:Tuesday.
Marc:Tomorrow.
Marc:And back when I was a younger man in college, maybe a bit,
Marc:Somewhere in there after college.
Marc:I wore black cowboy boots forever.
Marc:It was just part of this sort of rock and roll-y, southwestern-y thing.
Marc:I had black cowboy boots.
Marc:I wore them out.
Marc:Had a couple pairs.
Marc:Had a pair of gray lizard boots, too.
Marc:Wore them out.
Marc:But I haven't worn cowboy boots in decades.
Marc:I got a pair of nice Chelsea's from the people up in Canada, the Love Jewels leather people that I've reintegrated into the thing.
Marc:But I'm up and I'm staying at a place in Denver, the Bourne, Kempton Bourne Hotel.
Marc:Right next door is a Lucchese store.
Marc:And I've always known they make the high-end boots.
Marc:I think it's Lucchese, maybe Lucchese, but I think it's Lucchese.
Marc:These are handmade boots.
Marc:And I go in there and I'm looking at boots.
Marc:And I want to buy boots.
Marc:I just want a pair of black cowboy boots.
Marc:Not the hardcore ones, just the black cowboy boots.
Marc:I think they're rodeo style.
Marc:The kind of Sam Silvia.
Marc:I got a pair of Sam Silvia boots that were made for me by the people that made the boots for Deadwood.
Marc:They did a riff on some vintage ones that they found in wardrobe that were hurting my feet.
Marc:So I got those.
Marc:But I was like, I want to buy some boots.
Marc:I want some black cowboy boots.
Marc:I think I'm ready to return to the black cowboy boots.
Marc:I'm looking at them.
Marc:And I saw the pair.
Marc:They were shorter top and just a soft buffalo.
Marc:I guess they're buffalo black boot.
Marc:And I looked at them.
Marc:I'm like, I'm going to put these on.
Marc:I'm probably going to get them.
Marc:So I'm looking around.
Marc:I'm talking to the guy.
Marc:Now, there's a guy there.
Marc:There's a couple of salesmen.
Marc:This is Denver.
Marc:Now, I don't think these guys were bull riders.
Marc:I don't even know if they rode horses.
Marc:But they were Western.
Marc:I mean, there is a Western thing and Western sensibility that goes beyond fashion.
Marc:It's a way of thinking and a way of life and a way of self-presentation that doesn't necessarily require herding or riding.
Marc:But there's Western people.
Marc:I grew up with them in New Mexico.
Marc:Are they real cowboys?
Marc:It doesn't matter.
Marc:They're people that are cultured that way.
Marc:And the guy, the young guy wearing the hat,
Marc:waiting on me in the store.
Marc:My sales guy is a Western guy, but he's a legit.
Marc:It's a legit Western guy.
Marc:It's a culture.
Marc:You would hope it, Lucchese or Lucchese.
Marc:That's who they have doing the business there.
Marc:So I'm looking at Boots and I kind of decide on this pair that I like.
Marc:But I'm starting, I'm looking at the other ones and I'm asking, there's two salesmen there.
Marc:I say, like, is this the real ostrich?
Marc:Is this the real alligator?
Marc:Is this the real lizard?
Marc:And they're like, yep, it's all real.
Marc:And I'm like, they can use alligator again because they're not endangered.
Marc:And he's like, yep.
Marc:I'm like, do they farm these lizards?
Marc:Yep.
Marc:What about these ostriches?
Marc:These are actually farmed ostriches?
Marc:Yep.
Marc:Now, these boots are real fucking cowboy boots.
Marc:Even the ones that aren't those things.
Marc:They're just a higher top.
Marc:There's some lace work on the boot.
Marc:There's a different heel.
Marc:It's a real deal shit for real cowboys or real Western people.
Marc:And I'm talking to this guy, and it was just a beautiful moment.
Marc:I'm not even sure why.
Marc:But I'm like, all these boots, these are amazing.
Marc:They're beautiful boots.
Marc:I love them.
Marc:But I'm not pretending to be something I'm not.
Marc:And the guy says, he goes, I appreciate that.
Marc:I don't know if it was cause like, we don't want you, you know, thank God, or thank God, you know, or, or, or look at you, look at you knowing your limitations and knowing who you are.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I'm going to take the, the, the lower top boot with the nothing, no embroidery, you know, a casual cowboy boot, you know, because you know, I know my place.
Marc:I know my tier.
Yeah.
Marc:on this western spectrum i got a little in me i grew up i'm legit i'm from new mexico but you're right man i'm just looking for a cool boot i'm not looking to change my life i liked it though
Marc:I liked it.
Marc:I appreciate that.
Guest:Okay, last thing here, and this is kind of weird.
Guest:I am going to give you some producer cuts of something that hasn't aired yet and is only going to air for you WTF Plus subscribers.
Guest:Mark and I sat down and we recorded some bonus content.
Guest:And it's going to air for you next week.
Guest:But this was just he and I talking at the beginning of the recording.
Guest:We wound up talking about stuff that had nothing to do with our planned conversation.
Guest:So this is just some stuff I excised from that planned conversation.
Guest:And this is about stuff going on in Mark's house, particularly a problem he's having with bugs.
Guest:How's it going, man?
Marc:I'm okay.
Marc:I'm a little tired, a little harried.
Marc:I always feel overwhelmed.
Marc:I think it's really a caffeine problem that my brain is, I don't know.
Marc:I worked out this morning.
Marc:I got up at 6.30.
Marc:I did the workout, and now we're doing this.
Marc:Got a lady cleaning the house.
Marc:Got a guy coming over to check for termites.
Marc:And then I got to get my shit together and go on the road at 5.30 in the morning, and I'm going to do three spots of comedy tonight because I'm an idiot.
Marc:How's the termite situation as of today?
Marc:Did it clear up?
Marc:No.
Marc:Last night, it clears up every morning.
Marc:I mean, but they're definitely, at night, they're partying.
Marc:I mean, in a big way.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:But like it happened a couple of weeks ago and now it's happened for the last two days.
Marc:So I'm assuming that I've got a colony in the house.
Marc:I just don't know what that means.
Marc:I mean, tenting is such a- Don't assume you got one in the house, dude.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:I'm serious.
Guest:It could be like within a hundred feet of your house.
Guest:They don't colonize in your house.
Guest:They colonize well under the ground.
Guest:And they come up in the house because the house has wood and cellulose.
Guest:But if they're getting that from trees outside, they're fine.
Guest:They don't need your house.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Cellulose.
Marc:What is that?
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:It's just what's in wood.
Marc:Okay.
Guest:That's why they eat wood.
Marc:Yeah, I don't know.
Marc:It's quite a thing to see and to adapt to.
Marc:I'm just sort of like brushing my teeth and there's hundreds of bugs crawling across my wall.
Guest:Well, also termites are like one of those things like, you know, John Mulaney has that bit about when you're a kid.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You think there's things that are very dangerous in the world that aren't like quicksand.
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Guest:You think a thing you're going to have to deal with a lot in life because we watch cartoons is quicksand.
Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:And I feel like Termites is a similar thing.
Guest:There's got to be at least a half dozen, I don't know, Porky Pig cartoons or something where his house is falling in on itself.
Guest:And it's got that thing.
Guest:that sound and like it's just like the entire thing just goes.
Guest:Little buzzsaw animals.
Marc:Exactly.
Marc:Well, I mean, they do do some extensive damage, but the weird thing about LA is that every old home has been weathered by termites at some point.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:And usually they're not going to eat the whole house, but they can do a bit of damage if you don't stay on top of it.
Marc:But,
Marc:When I had it happen in the old garage, it was crazy.
Marc:It was like thousands of bugs moving across the ceiling of the old garage.
Marc:And that house had been around since 1923.
Marc:This one's been around since 1907.
Marc:They're both wood framed houses.
Marc:But I really started to think that the old house, the old garage was built on some ancient colony of ants and termites and probably is.
Guest:yeah either that or it's just like a nether portal and that's like the pazusa um uh collecting his minions sure that that's always a possibility
Guest:OK, that's producer cuts for this week.
Guest:And like I said, next week, we've already recorded something for you.
Guest:I think you're going to like it.
Guest:I think you're going to like the second thing we recorded for you, too, that we'll be starting basically a new series, kind of a small documentary that we're doing on.
Guest:Well, I'll let that topic reveal itself in a couple of weeks.
Guest:OK, cool.
Guest:Thanks for subscribing and we'll talk to you soon.
Marc:Thank you.