BONUS Marc's Record Collection - Looking for an Answer

Episode 734254 • Released April 11, 2023 • Speakers not detected

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00:00:07How are you, people?
00:00:08Welcome to the bonus content.
00:00:11There's two things going on with me right now.
00:00:13There's me trying to assess and understand my compulsive record buying.
00:00:21I'm not going to call it a problem because I've pulled back from it.
00:00:24The problem is really when you get involved with something like that and you go hard for a while and then all of a sudden you're surrounded by vinyl records, hundreds of them.
00:00:37In my case, I've probably got about 3,000 of them now.
00:00:42And every once in a while, I'll go through a flurry of organization and purging.
00:00:50It's just a management thing.
00:00:51It becomes literally a problem of space management.
00:00:54This is why...
00:00:56If you have a big record collection, you better have a big house or you better have a place where you can house that record collection.
00:01:05Now, mine isn't completely out of control.
00:01:07It's probably too many.
00:01:08And when you have all these vinyl records, you can understand how CDs were very exciting outside of the push to get people to buy the new format with the idea that it was better somehow, even though in retrospect, not so great.
00:01:22For many reasons, source material, just digitization in general.
00:01:26But I am confronted with the idea that someday this will pass.
00:01:31Someday my record obsession will pass.
00:01:33And it's not even that deep an obsession.
00:01:36I'm not a full on nerd.
00:01:37I'm not looking for grails.
00:01:39I like having all the stuff I have, but there is no fucking way I can listen to it all.
00:01:44And so I've just got all these records and now I've got to figure out, you know, who gets my records when I die.
00:01:51This is the real thing that's going on.
00:01:53I have to rewrite my will and make some decisions.
00:01:56It's strange being childless and debtless.
00:01:59All of a sudden, you got to really think about the people in your life who are here now or were there or what family can use what to be specific about leaving stuff.
00:02:07Sadly,
00:02:08I think I will probably leave my records to the guy I got most of them from.
00:02:14Just return them to the source.
00:02:16I think Dan, over at Gimme Gimme, is going to be willed my collection.
00:02:21So, you know, he can sell it again.
00:02:23But in talking about music, which is really, I guess, why I wanted to do this, I've been...
00:02:32You know I've been playing in a band.
00:02:34I've been playing with some guys occasionally, and I'm terrified to play anything too complicated because I think it would take more work than we're really putting in.
00:02:43I like simple music.
00:02:45I like music that's immediate.
00:02:48I just listened to Nebraska by Bruce Springsteen because I'm reading a yet-to-be-published book by Warren Zanes about Nebraska.
00:02:55I think there's something very earnest about Nebraska.
00:02:57I have to reassess it in a much deeper way because I'm reading this book.
00:03:01But I'm also always trying to figure out playlists to play with these guys when we do play.
00:03:09And some of that has led me back to my, I'm not even going to say guilty pleasure, because I have no shame about owning the first five or six Skynyrd records.
00:03:23Let me rephrase that.
00:03:24To owning all of the Skynyrd records, including the live one.
00:03:27And the one that came out posthumously.
00:03:30And enjoying them a great deal to the point where I'm considering covering Give Me Three Steps.
00:03:35So I've listened to Give Me Three Steps a few times.
00:03:37I've listened to some of those songs off that first album and that second album.
00:03:41And Give Me Back My Bullets, which I think people disregard.
00:03:44But there's a couple of great songs on there.
00:03:46And I'm trying to correct the past in a way.
00:03:50There were a few attempts at a band.
00:03:52when I was younger, that never really stuck because I didn't have the discipline to become the guitar player I could become, to sort of deal with the talent I might have had, or at least focus it.
00:04:05I just liked being able to play things, not well, but how I understood them.
00:04:10But there were a couple attempts at bands.
00:04:11There was a band, the first band that I was in, I may have put together just to do a couple of songs
00:04:20for a student talent assembly when I was in, I believe, eighth grade.
00:04:26I'm going to go with eighth, though it might have been ninth.
00:04:29I'd written a song called Jessica about a girl I had a crush on.
00:04:34Her name was Jessica Jameson.
00:04:36And I was very taken with her.
00:04:38She was older than me.
00:04:40And I wrote this song called Jessica, which roughly has the same chords as Ringo Starr's photograph, I think, give or take.
00:04:50And that was my I didn't even sing it.
00:04:52My singer was a guy named Eric Tittman out of Denver.
00:04:55My drummer was Dean Hines out of New Mexico.
00:04:59I can't remember if we had a bass player that night that day.
00:05:02I assume we did.
00:05:03I'm trying to remember who it was.
00:05:04It might have been this guy, Ralph.
00:05:06Not positive, but I feel like it might have been.
00:05:10And, you know, we played this song at this assembly, this song, Jessica.
00:05:15The band tentatively was called the Midnight Ramblers, which was a bad name that I really wanted to keep.
00:05:22But when I moved on to another band after the Midnight Ramblers, another three-song band that never really played out, that guy, Dave, who's dead now, dead Dave, who was my best friend in high school, refused to...
00:05:38Call the band Midnight Ramblers because he said it sounded like a country band, which might have been true.
00:05:42But but he so we went with change.
00:05:47Yeah, change.
00:05:49That's what we went with change.
00:05:52We had the business cards made.
00:05:53I think I might have made them in graphics class.
00:05:56Graphics class was an important place for me to express my my kind of early on silk screening art ideas.
00:06:08You know, I was once I got the hang of silk screening, but we had to do business cards and do practical things with the with the presses.
00:06:16So I made the cards for change.
00:06:18It might have not been that.
00:06:19It might have been another band.
00:06:21I can't remember.
00:06:22I remember doing doesn't matter.
00:06:24Point is.
00:06:26We play Jessica at the assembly.
00:06:31And I think we might have tried some other song.
00:06:34Had a little fast end part with some guitar lead.
00:06:37Was there another guitar player?
00:06:38I don't remember.
00:06:40So we played it, and obviously Jessica was very moved, but not as moved, I think, in the other direction as her boyfriend, Ted Allen, who after the show came up to me with a weird smile on his face and punched me in the stomach.
00:06:56And I dropped to my knees and he said, just leave my girlfriend alone.
00:07:01And they were like years older than me.
00:07:04He has since emailed me.
00:07:06I don't know if I responded recently within the past decade to apologize for that, because apparently he's working with.
00:07:12Kids who who have bullying problems, something like that.
00:07:17Look, I might be getting the story wrong, but that's where my music got me early on.
00:07:21That might have been a deterrent.
00:07:23That is not the response you want to playing music.
00:07:26But but nonetheless, I've been going back.
00:07:29I've been going back and I've talked about this on the podcast proper.
00:07:34to sort of find something back there.
00:07:37But I needed to correct some things.
00:07:39We did try to play Gimme Three Steps and the band Change, and it wasn't good.
00:07:46We did Taking Care of Business.
00:07:48We did Sweet Emotion badly.
00:07:52Needle and the Spoon.
00:07:56Oh, that's the one.
00:07:58I got to write that down.
00:08:00It was a needle and a spoon and a trip.
00:08:05To the moon, gonna take you away.
00:08:08I think it was about Gary Rossington, who recently died.
00:08:15Skinner guitar player.
00:08:16The last one.
00:08:17But on the treadmill the other day, I was going through the old records and listening to ZZ Top for something maybe I could do.
00:08:26Thought maybe the band could cover Tush.
00:08:28Is it time for a Tush cover?
00:08:30by a 59-year-old Mark Maron.
00:08:33I think it's unexpected.
00:08:35I think that if I whipped out Tush at Largo, that would be something.
00:08:40It's sort of like when I played ACDC on my little bit part when I did guest DJing on Morning Becomes Equlectic.
00:08:50It's like, hey, this is part of me, man.
00:08:52This is the townie part of me, man.
00:08:55I grew up in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
00:08:57All right.
00:08:58I went to Van Halen, the Van Halen concert on their first tour and threw up and passed out during the opening band, man.
00:09:06That's who I am.
00:09:07I saw the Nuge three times and I don't even like the Nuge, but my buddy did.
00:09:12I drove fucking 10 hours from Albuquerque to Denver to see Richie Blackmore's Rainbow with my buddy Dave.
00:09:20I didn't even like Rainbow, but I saw John Cougar Mellencamp open for Rainbow when he was just John Cougar and thought, this guy's good.
00:09:30Yeah, I did that.
00:09:31I drove 10 hours.
00:09:33in two cars, my Datsun B210 and my buddy Chris's Maverick, white Maverick.
00:09:40And we'd stopped at the place I worked, the Posh Bagel, and loaded up on all kinds of sandwiches and sauces and had food fights between the cars to the point where we had to stop at a car wash and spray the Thousand Island dressing off the cars before we got to Denver to Sunday Jam 2, which was UFO, the cars, the rockets,
00:10:03Hart and Ted Nugent again, I believe.
00:10:07Is that possible?
00:10:08Hart, Ted Nugent, the cars, the rockets, and UFO.
00:10:12Is that possible?
00:10:14Someone check that.
00:10:15My buddy Andy, who wasn't really my friend, he didn't really like me, but we were both friends at Dave's.
00:10:21He took acid and watched the horse on top of Mile High Stadium trot around the parameter of that stadium.
00:10:29I think he might have been one of three people who saw it.
00:10:32So I've been going back, going back into the files, trying to find these songs that define my youth.
00:10:39As some of you know, I've been playing songs that were put in my head by my father on the A-track in the station wagon, the Capri station wagon that the family used to drive around in.
00:10:49My dad used to listen to the soundtrack of American Graffiti.
00:10:53I've done several of those songs, the ones he liked, some part of my father that I can hold on to.
00:10:58I don't think he can hold on to them.
00:11:00We had Buddy Holly's greatest hits.
00:11:02We had the American Graffiti soundtrack.
00:11:04And we had Hocus Pocus by Focus.
00:11:21We had that.
00:11:23We had Abbey Road by the Beatles.
00:11:25But we did The Stroll.
00:11:28I like the Peppermint Twist.
00:11:29I can do that.
00:11:30We did Slippin' and Slidin' from the Buddy Holly thing.
00:11:33I used to like get a job.
00:11:35Get a job.
00:11:37Anyway.
00:11:41getting back to it, going through the past, trying to find things, but oddly to sort of loop around on the record collection business.
00:11:51And I know I said that I may have may read from some of the journals, um,
00:11:59that I found up in my attic.
00:12:01These were written specifically during the separation, after my wife left me.
00:12:07And I told you about them.
00:12:09I'm going to have to really figure out what I can read from this.
00:12:12Because when I look at it, there's stuff in it that's pretty important stuff, and I think helpful stuff.
00:12:19But I have to go through it.
00:12:20I can't just start reading this stuff.
00:12:24It would be too heavy without some editing.
00:12:28I don't know.
00:12:29I think the point of it was that that past that's 2007, you know, the one thing I realized about that, those events is that how long does PTSD last, man?
00:12:45You know,
00:12:47After Lynn's death, I mean, I don't know.
00:12:49I don't even know if I'm really all the way through it.
00:12:51But after your wife leaves you, I mean, that's another shattering thing because what went on in these journals, my memory of it is not great.
00:12:59And there was a lot going on.
00:13:01But anyways, maybe we'll get to that.
00:13:04On another bonus conversation.
00:13:07So back to the records, you know, now I have to kind of I've gotten completionist about a lot of stuff like I did replace or get all of my Skinner records, all my Aerosmith records, all my records.
00:13:20Tom Waits records.
00:13:22I got all of the ACDC records.
00:13:24I have all the ZZ Top records.
00:13:26I have records that were important to me when I was younger, both townie and non-townie, both townie and art records.
00:13:32But I do.
00:13:33The great thing about collecting vinyl is just how many records you have that you've never seen before.
00:13:38And artists that have been around forever or were at a different time have many records out that
00:13:45I didn't know anything about, or I just knew two songs.
00:13:49So all that to say recently, and this happens with artists occasionally in my collection, I've decided that some of the big answers might lie in the canned heat catalog.
00:14:01I'm not sure what I'm thinking.
00:14:03It's probably, I run a little weird about my own playing and the guys I'm playing with.
00:14:11Like there's part of me that wants to take it seriously and try to understand the sound that I'm trying to get or define better the sound that I think represents me.
00:14:21And then I go like, come on, dude, you're a comic.
00:14:25Don't, you know, fucking don't pressure yourself.
00:14:28But I had this moment
00:14:30Where I was watching, I was flipping through the Woodstock movie.
00:14:37And because I don't I maybe in my recollection, look, that's not my era.
00:14:42You know, I saw it as a midnight movie when I was in high school.
00:14:46And that would have been in the, you know, late 70s, probably.
00:14:51And I don't remember it at all.
00:14:53I just remember it being too long and there was a lot of filler.
00:14:57So about a month ago, I was just kind of moving through the Woodstock performances and I got to Canned Heat and I was like, what the fuck?
00:15:11These guys are playing the shit out of this stuff.
00:15:13These guys invented something.
00:15:15These guys might have invented blues rock.
00:15:19Yeah, that's what I'm going to say.
00:15:21If they didn't, there's no more.
00:15:23They were purists, yet they updated it somehow.
00:15:27Like, they don't sound like a bar band playing blues.
00:15:30They sound like fucking Canned Heat.
00:15:32And they fucking rocked the shit out of that stuff.
00:15:34And that guitar player, not Wilson, not Blind Owl Wilson, the other guy, what's his name?
00:15:41Vistain?
00:15:42Why not look this shit up?
00:15:43The Bear?
00:15:44I'm not even sure what that guy's name.
00:15:45The bass player?
00:15:46Why not look it up right now?
00:15:48Okay, so I looked it up.
00:15:49It was Alan Blind Owl Wilson, who died very young, guitar, harmonica, vocals.
00:15:53Bob the Bear Height, vocals, harmonica, who died much later of, not a hotshot, but he thought something was coke and it was dope.
00:16:02Harvey the Snake Mandel, guitar.
00:16:05Wild, dude.
00:16:07He fucking played the shit out of it.
00:16:09Larry the Mole Taylor.
00:16:10I like how everyone has nicknames.
00:16:12And Adolfo Fido de la Para drums.
00:16:17Now, I'm watching this thing, and I'm like, I knew these guys were kind of blues purists, but they just took it to this other level.
00:16:23But there was a moment...
00:16:25during their performance at Woodstock, where I guess a crowd member gets on stage and just starts talking to Height, the bear, and the other guys are soloing, someone's jamming, someone's doing something.
00:16:37And if you listen to fucking Alan Wilson...
00:16:41You know, what's the name of that?
00:16:43Mississippi Records put out an album of just his stuff.
00:16:47His falsetto was flawless.
00:16:49And his harmonica was beautiful.
00:16:51He was like a cypher.
00:16:53He was a channel for something well beyond him and before him.
00:17:00Kind of amazing.
00:17:01He died pretty fucking young.
00:17:03But he was something else.
00:17:05Uh, but I, I've just decided that the answer to the sound I'm looking for is somewhere in can't heat anyway.
00:17:11So this guy gets on stage and just starts talking to height and then, uh, bums a cigarette off him and lights a cigarette.
00:17:19This is on stage.
00:17:21At Woodstock.
00:17:23And I was just so amazed that they're all playing up there and height handling it like they were just like not even in a bar, like playing a house, a house party.
00:17:33It was crazy.
00:17:35So that's the benefit of,
00:17:37of having a lot of records is now I can really zero in and just listen to canned heat, all of it and try to figure out what I am looking for.
00:17:47God damn it.
00:17:48I'm always looking for something, but it's always the same thing to feel whole, to feel relief, to feel abandoned, to feel, uh,
00:17:59Peace of mind to feel elation.
00:18:03Is that all the same spectrum?
00:18:05Is that all the same spectrum?
00:18:07Can't music do that?
00:18:09But also to feel the electricity of some fucking rock, man.
00:18:17But I'll figure it out.
00:18:20You ever listen to that Hooker and Heat record?
00:18:22That's Ken Heat backing John Lee Hooker.
00:18:24It's crazy.
00:18:26Why am I a blues guy?
00:18:28Out of all the things, that's where I come from.
00:18:30That's the source.
00:18:32I don't know.
00:18:33I guess it's that strange, shattered sense of Jewish self.
00:18:38There's something about that specific thing.
00:18:40There's a lot of Jewish bluish guys.
00:18:47I mean, I listen to everything, but for some reason, I've returned to that.
00:18:50And right now, I'm looking for answers in the Canteed catalog.
00:18:55Enjoy yourselves.
00:18:57Be careful.
00:19:01I'm not going to do Boomer Lives.
00:19:03That's not for bonus content.
00:19:36We'll be right back.

BONUS Marc's Record Collection - Looking for an Answer

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