BONUS The Friday Show - You Ask, We Answer
Guest:My criteria for if I'm going to say it's a great wrestling entrance song, it needs to be for a heel.
Guest:It should be obnoxious, but still a good song.
Guest:There's still something cool about it.
Guest:And I can picture it playing while I'm at the grocery store, like shopping.
Guest:I walked in and this song starts out and it's like, oh no, this guy's here.
Guest:He's going right to the produce.
Marc:Hello, Chris.
Marc:BMAC.
Marc:How's it going?
Marc:It's going good.
Marc:How are you, pal?
Marc:You know, I was listening to the episodes this week and I talked about saying, oh, I just left the jet strip and I'm ready to talk.
Marc:And I was like, first of all, maybe I shouldn't try to be a comedian on the WTF.
Marc:Wait, I don't even remember that reference.
Marc:What was the jet strip?
Marc:It was from this last episode on Thursday.
Marc:You guys had... Oh, Felicia Michaels?
Marc:Yeah, Felicia Michaels.
Marc:And she said that she stripped at the jet strip.
Guest:That was the name of the strip club.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And he's like, oh, that's the sad strip club.
Marc:And then she was like, yeah, I used to work the daytime on the weekdays.
Marc:It's like, oh, that's the ultimate said.
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Guest:I was so taken by the sadness of the description that I completely forgot the name of the club.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Yeah, you don't want to be at the airport strip club in any regard.
Guest:Working there, patron, anything.
Guest:Bad scene.
Guest:Cop.
Guest:You don't want to be a cop who had to go there.
Guest:All of it's bad.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:You know, I must say, I was never a strip club kind of guy, like, in my youth.
Marc:Like, I've been to one strip club, and it was for my brother's bachelor party, and I hated every second of it.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know what?
Guest:You know why I think you and I are like that?
Guest:Because we like wrestling.
Guest:And so we know the strip club is fake.
Guest:Oh, it's funny.
Guest:We know that they are kayfabing us.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:That's a great point.
Yeah.
Guest:You can't pull one over on me.
Guest:Maybe some other rube who thinks a guy really got hit with a steel chair, but not me.
Guest:Totally.
Guest:Well, something that was happening this week because it's for the next week's full Marin bonus content, it's the Ask Mark Anything stuff.
Guest:So I was going through, I was trying to cull all the content.
Guest:And by the way, you still have time to ask a question for that if you want.
Guest:I'll actually put the link to Ask Mark Anything in there.
Guest:in this episode description, just in case it's something you want to contribute to.
Guest:You didn't ask a question from Mark yet.
Guest:That will be answered on next Tuesday's bonus content by Mark.
Guest:And so just in addition to the comment form that we have for the Friday show, I'll put the Ask Mark Anything link in there.
Guest:Go ahead and ask him a question.
Guest:And because I was trying to put all the Ask Mark Anything stuff together, sent to Mark, I went back through
Guest:our comments, because sometimes people leave stuff from Mark there.
Guest:So I wanted to go through.
Guest:And as I was going through, I saw there was just kind of like a grab bag of stuff that we could address and some stuff that just kind of got past me because of, you know, a couple of weeks, maybe not having checked it.
Guest:And so I want to go through this like kind of like a mailbag episode.
Guest:And there's stuff that pertains to WTF.
Guest:There's stuff that pertains to the culture at large.
Guest:There's some wrestling stuff in here.
Guest:Let's just get into it.
Guest:First of all, this is just a kind of public service announcement for one person, but maybe it's helpful for others.
Guest:This was from a guy named Murad.
Guest:And he wrote in saying, sometimes I would like to listen to year old episodes where
Guest:What's the fastest way for me to get a specific episode?
Guest:And if I had answered this when you sent it in, Murad, I might have given you a substandard answer, depending on what app you're using.
Guest:But I noticed within the last couple of weeks...
Guest:Apple has fixed their Apple podcast app so that you can actually search private feeds.
Guest:What that means is like this full Marin feed that you're using in the Apple podcast used to not be able to search and it was a real pain in the butt.
Guest:Like if you wanted to find a specific episode, you'd have to just scroll down hundreds of episodes to find it in your, in your full Marin podcast feed.
Guest:Now they allow for searching for,
Guest:That feed, which means if you go into like the Apple podcast app and you say, put in Dane Cook, you want to hear that Dane Cook episode, you enter Dane Cook, hit enter, and then go to the tab that says my library, right?
Guest:And if you're in my library...
Guest:then the Dane Cook episode will come up because it is in your library.
Guest:You have that private feed of full Marin stuff.
Guest:So that's the fastest way to search it in a podcast app.
Guest:Most other apps have that.
Guest:And I've just been kind of hesitant to suggest it because up until a few weeks ago, Apple didn't have it and they're the most popular one.
Guest:So now it's kind of almost uniformed.
Guest:That any podcast app, you can just search in the private feed and it'll pop up.
Guest:There's also always on WTFPod.com, we have a search function that if you just go to that and enter, you'll find the episode and the episode number.
Guest:But really, now that Apple has fixed that, that's the best and fastest way.
Guest:Now, if you're just saying you want to listen to year-old episodes...
Guest:The fastest way is going to be a scroll back a year.
Guest:It takes like five seconds to go down the list a year.
Guest:It might take a little more than that to go down the list, you know, all the way back to 2009 and try to find a one specific episode you're looking for.
Guest:And in that case, I would recommend using the search bar.
Marc:So I just did the search in Apple Podcasts.
Marc:And yeah, episode 89, Dane Cook.
Marc:Also what comes up for some reason in my library is Tork Live with a How Did This Get Made episode.
Marc:So I'm actually, now I want to listen to that episode of How Did This Get Made to see what they say about Dane Cook.
Guest:Yeah, he's in Tork.
Marc:Oh, is he?
Marc:That's what it is?
Guest:Yes, yes.
Guest:torque was like a fast and the furious but with motorcycles dane cook is like the wacky guy in that that was before he broke as a stand-up comic he was just you know oh we need a funny wacky guy go get that guy he's like tj miller right oh so so they needed a tyrese uh from the fast and furious yeah there you go dane cook and tyrese i think that's appropriate
Guest:What about you, Chris?
Guest:Did you have anything, any questions you had listening to the show this week or anything that you thought of related to WTF?
Marc:So this week's episodes, loved both of them.
Marc:A couple of things came up that I didn't understand what they meant.
Marc:You can probably tell me.
Marc:So during the Rami episode, Mark says that they reformat the room.
Marc:Like, what does that mean?
Marc:to reform it.
Marc:Wait, in what context?
Marc:What was it?
Marc:They were, I guess, Rami bombed and then it doesn't matter because the next guy comes up and he just reformats the room.
Marc:He's like, oh, look at this purse and does a whole bit about the purse.
Marc:What does that mean?
Guest:You know, a comic who bombs can kind of infect
Guest:other performers right like if you go out there and bomb and you make the room like you make the audience kind of sour on the show it's gonna be much harder for the next comic and the rest of the night really or vice versa if you're like killing it and and being like super high energy all the time and
Guest:And then a good comic coming out after is somebody whose act would normally make people laugh, but it's not a rock show, right?
Guest:That's going to be a harder time for them.
Guest:And I guess the idea that you reformat the room is that if your tone or style or something is going to be different than the person who came before you, whether they bombed or whether their energy was different or whether it's just a kind of ill-fitting act for what's coming next...
Guest:a person with the skill to reformat the room or, or kind of recalibrate everything makes it as though people are just now sitting there fresh, right?
Guest:Forget what you saw before.
Guest:Now it's just me.
Guest:And, and I think there are basically the way they're talking about that.
Guest:I guess that it's a lot of it is somebody's ability to do crowd work.
Guest:You know, they could get the crowd back into their zone and,
Guest:By just, you know, all right, hey, I'm going to take your purse.
Guest:I'm going to do this or that.
Guest:And then you're, you know, no longer thinking about what happened on stage before he came out.
Guest:Gotcha.
Guest:Okay.
Marc:Great.
Marc:Thanks.
Marc:And then in the last episode with Felicia Michaels, Mark kept saying, like, a bunch of door guys got passed.
Marc:Like, what does that mean?
Guest:Oh, passed just means now you're a regular at that club.
Guest:That you're allowed to go up.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Gotcha.
Guest:So the door guys, which Mark famously was one, are generally aspiring comics who show up.
Guest:They say, you know, you got any work for me?
Guest:I'll, you know, do the door.
Guest:I'll take tickets.
Guest:I'll, you know, scrub the bathrooms, whatever.
Guest:And the hope is, you know, you get a spot.
Guest:when it's available whether it's the potluck which is like the open mic night there or whether it's like oh it's late and somebody didn't show up we need you to go on go ahead and uh you know sometimes nothing comes of that but if you're good you know back in the day was with mitzi now it's with somebody else they watch you and they say okay yeah you're past you can come back basically now and then there's levels after that you're either a paid regular you're just somebody who gets
Guest:various spots, but being past means you can work here.
Guest:Gotcha.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:Thank you.
Guest:I'm just curious about it.
Guest:Thanks.
Guest:Well, that's good.
Guest:I'm glad you should always feel free to ask.
Guest:Anybody who's listening should feel free to ask.
Guest:We'll answer them here in this part of the show, which is basically what we're doing today.
Guest:We're going to go through the comments you've sent in the episode description.
Guest:And some of these are going back.
Guest:Some of these were from like several weeks ago, and I just didn't get around to them.
Guest:So it's good to do some spring cleaning.
Guest:This comment came into to our page here from someone who listened to last week's show.
Guest:And it says regarding American gladiators, Action Park, a water park in New Jersey, had a gladiator experience where children and teens had to run the obstacle course and get just as injured by gladiators.
Guest:No kidding.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And if you've seen, there is a documentary about Action Park on HBO Max or Max or whatever it's called now.
Guest:And it's just called Action Park.
Guest:I think initially the title was Class Action Park, which is a great title, but maybe it was too confusing for people.
Guest:So they just called it Action Park.
Guest:And it is about this death trap in northern New Jersey that anyone who grew up around here knows about.
Guest:Because I never went to it, but I sure as hell knew everybody who went to it got hurt.
Guest:That was any person knew that that was a death trap.
Guest:And the ads were constant on television.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Especially like afternoon cartoons and stuff like that.
Guest:You'd see action.
Guest:I mean, they advertised it to children and then children went and got like obliterated.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:I never, I never went myself.
Marc:My brother went.
Marc:But even as a kid, I knew that that shit was too dangerous.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:My parents were like, yes, that's fine.
Marc:Jay, you can go.
Marc:Well, that got me thinking like there were a lot of things like that.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like, I remember a lot.
Guest:I grew up, you know, mainly I was born here in New York City and spent some time here.
Guest:But but a lot of my growing up was in upstate New York.
Guest:And that was the kind of place where parents were like, go outside, do whatever you want to do.
Guest:And that meant, like, yeah, we'll go down to the creek.
Guest:We'll be in the woods.
Guest:And, like, there's all manner of horse shit you can get up to.
Guest:And, you know, I was thinking about it.
Guest:Did we ever do anything particularly dangerous in that case?
Guest:Not really.
Guest:Like, I remember my brother one time, he was out screwing around.
Guest:It was one of those things, oh, yeah, go out and play.
Guest:So he goes over to a friend's house.
Guest:And that friend has a BB gun.
Guest:And, uh, my brother, they told, he told him the BB gun was empty.
Guest:He checked it.
Guest:He shook it and whatever.
Guest:But there was like, you, like BBs, like you can't get it.
Guest:It's not like, uh, Oh, there's a, you know, six in the clip, one in the chamber, right?
Guest:Like you don't, you don't know.
Guest:And he just like a kid does.
Guest:Cause kids are stupid.
Guest:Uh,
Guest:wanted to feel how much air would come out of a gun.
Guest:Like if you, if you could feel the force of it.
Guest:And so is this empty?
Guest:Yeah, it's empty.
Guest:Check it.
Guest:Oh yeah.
Guest:Nothing there.
Guest:So he put the BB gun, it was a pellet gun, you know, handgun, not a rifle.
Guest:He put it over his finger and,
Guest:and pulled the thing and bb embedded right into his finger so uh i remember he came home it was he was in full panic mode he shot himself and my you know of course i shot myself and my parents think oh no like this kid's gonna die and no then it turns out it's just a bb in the finger and he was you know i had to go get it cut out it was fine uh but i remember like at like dinner the next night and we were kind of like talking about that
Guest:They were like, it was stupid, but whatever.
Guest:It could be much worse.
Guest:And I said to my dad, did you ever do anything like that when you were a kid?
Guest:And he was like, no, no, not that, not that.
Guest:Like, there was some stupid things.
Guest:Like, you know the Belt Parkway?
Guest:My dad grew up in Bay Ridge in Brooklyn.
Guest:And the Belt Parkway is a big highway that goes down around the bottom of Brooklyn, right under the Verrazano Bridge.
Guest:And I knew it.
Guest:We'd been there quite a bit.
Guest:I said, yeah, I know the Bell Parkway.
Guest:He was like, yeah, there was, uh, there was this like hill on the side and a vine that like came off of a tree.
Guest:And, uh, so we used to swing on that vine, swing out over the Bell Parkway.
Marc:That's, that was awful.
Guest:Like, I was like, wait, wait, wait, hold up.
Guest:Like what cars are going by.
Guest:He's like, yeah, you just go swing out over the top of the cars and come back.
Marc:Can you imagine driving and seeing this kid swinging a vine?
Guest:I have to imagine that's why they did it.
Guest:They're like, wouldn't this be so great if you're in a car and there's a kid just all of a sudden swinging at you?
Guest:Wow.
Guest:I always remember there was a Sinbad had a joke about that where he was like, when we were kids, we played a game called jump out in front of the car.
Guest:Sometimes you win.
Guest:Sometimes you lose.
Guest:That's what makes it a good game.
Marc:You know, that reminds me, when I was in Staten Island, I was like 15.
Marc:I befriended for some reason the ice cream man.
Marc:And we, you know, I would help, you know, serve kids ice cream and stuff, which was great because it got me talking to people that I, you know, I just didn't normally do.
Marc:But...
Marc:At that time, I think it was like I was 16 or 17.
Marc:I definitely didn't have a license.
Marc:I didn't even have a permit.
Marc:And I was actually driving the ice cream truck.
Marc:And so I'm illegally driving the ice cream truck and, you know, working and handing out ice cream.
Marc:I'm on my way back.
Marc:And there's a traffic stop because there's cops.
Marc:And they're stopping everyone for, I guess, like drunk driving or whatever.
Marc:And here I thought, oh, my God, I'm dead.
Marc:I just ruined my life by illegally driving this ice cream truck.
Marc:And I like the entire time I was like, well, if I make a U-turn right now, A, I can get away.
Marc:But B, they'll probably follow me.
Marc:And then probably.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Good job.
Guest:I like your detective work there.
Yeah.
Marc:Oh, you think so, doctor?
Marc:So I'm now resigned myself to, all right, I'm just going to ruin my life and never be able to drive a real car ever.
Marc:So I then get to the cop, and the cop just waves me by.
Marc:He's like, all right, come on, keep going.
Marc:And I've got to tell you, it was like the end of Shawshank Redemption.
Marc:I was...
Marc:I was so, so thrilled.
Marc:Instead of rain, you're like dousing yourself with soft serve, just pouring it away.
Marc:Ah, victorious.
Marc:Oh my God.
Marc:I mean, I was so terrified.
Marc:I ruined my life.
Marc:And to not, to get away with that was, oh my God.
Guest:First of all, I would have paid any amount of money to see you actually make a U-turn and try to book it in the ice cream truck.
Yeah.
Guest:Like in this line of this line of people waiting to be inspected by a cop and this slow ass ice cream machine tries to turn around, grinding its gears.
Guest:The fucking pop goes the weasel playing as you do.
Marc:Just the visual, like from the cop perspective of just a line of cars and then, oh, that's weird.
Marc:A fucking Uber truck just popped a U-turn.
Marc:That's weird.
Marc:That's suspicious.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I was like, wait, can you hear?
Guest:I think the person inside is crying.
Guest:But the other thing is, I love the idea, too, that these cops would have done anything.
Guest:You're like the friendly neighborhood ice cream man.
Guest:If anything, they're like, oh, let this person go.
Guest:There's nothing to see here.
Guest:This is the safest person in the neighborhood.
Marc:Yeah, thank God.
Marc:All you criminals out there, just be... Although, I mean, I've heard horror stories of the ice cream man selling drugs to kids and stuff.
Guest:Yeah, I bet all of those are false, but yes, it makes for a good story.
Guest:Here's another comment that somebody sent in.
Guest:This was someone saying they just finished listening here in Denmark.
Guest:And this was a few weeks ago when we talked about best finish and best promo and best heel and best baby face.
Guest:And this person said my pick for best finish.
Guest:the 2022 world cup final france versus argentina the match itself is as a full thing as a finish not just like them winning and celebrating and uh she says this was the only soccer game i have sat down to re-watch for fun just to relive the dramatic beat so that's from emma uh thank you emma and uh
Guest:It made me wonder, have you ever done that, Chris?
Guest:Have you ever watched a sporting event like from start to finish, just rewatched it?
Guest:Because, you know, we talk about it all the time with wrestling.
Guest:We watch matches that we've seen a long time ago.
Guest:We rewatch and we talk about them here.
Guest:It's a lot of fun to go revisit matches.
Guest:It's not so much the same with sports.
Guest:And I wonder if you've done that with anything.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:As a kid, I had to tape the 1986 World Series for my dad because he was working as a bus driver.
Marc:And so I would... Back in the day, you'd have a VCR with a little cord where you can stop and start the recording.
Marc:So that's what I did.
Marc:I got rid of all the commercials for them.
Marc:But yeah, so I had...
Marc:all of those games on VHS tape.
Marc:And I used to watch, uh, not just like game six or game seven of the 86, uh, you know, uh, world series where the Mets won, uh, the world series amazingly.
Marc:Um, but like also like the Mets and Astros game six, there was a good game.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:It was a marathon of a game.
Marc:And so I would, I would put those in and just watch them.
Marc:It was, it was just the best.
Guest:But see, as much of a baseball fan as I am, I don't think I've ever watched any baseball game again from start to finish.
Guest:And that includes like when they put them on TV as like Mets classics or whatever.
Guest:Like I'll watch the highlights of things.
Guest:Sure.
Guest:And, you know, those like Mets classic games, they
Guest:don't play them from start to finish it's like condensed to like an hour so that's i'm like yeah that's fine but like i just i i it's very i have that same uh 86 world series as a dvd box set i think i got it in like 2004 or something and i've absolutely watched you know the best parts of it but i've never sat down and watched the full game did you ever re-watch like the super bowls like uh giant patriots
Guest:So the answer there for me is all three of the Giants' Super Bowl wins I have rewatched.
Guest:And that's because, well, the 2008 and 2012 Super Bowls were super exciting.
Guest:Like, those are just, like, the best games.
Guest:The first one is the famous helmet catch, and that's the one that ended the Patriots' attempt for a perfect season, undefeated.
Guest:Giants, you know,
Guest:held them to a tight score, the high-scoring Patriots, and then win the game.
Guest:And then the 2012 version, which was Patriots and Giants again, became more of a shootout.
Guest:And that ended with a huge, long drive with Eli Manning.
Guest:And I've definitely gone back and watched those full Super Bowls.
Guest:But the one I watched multiple times...
Guest:was it's not even as good a game, but it was the one from 1991, the Giants and Bills.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And I think the reason I watched that so many times was it was a game that taught me more about football than I think I ever knew.
Guest:Like at that point in my life, the Giants won that game because of defense.
Guest:I had never seen a game where the defense was so dominant, and I just remember re-watching it because I thought that was so cool.
Guest:Otherwise, I have never watched a full sporting event.
Marc:I want to say I've watched Jimmy Connors at the U.S.
Marc:Open.
Marc:Do you remember 1991?
Marc:I sure remember it.
Marc:Yvonne Lendl and Jimmy Connors, but I definitely did not watch it again.
Marc:Yeah, I mean, I remember it being on, like, ESPN Classics.
Marc:Remember that was a channel?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I remember, like, you know, setting my DVR to that.
Marc:And I watched that once or twice, but never, like, you know, continuously or anything.
Marc:Yeah, and, like, Jimmy Connors was, like, peak.
Marc:He was, like, Hulk Hogan on the tennis court.
Marc:It was awesome.
Marc:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Marc:He was great.
Guest:I loved that guy.
Guest:I liked him way more than McEnroe.
Guest:Like, I was Jimmy Connors' fan.
Guest:McEnroe, I thought, was full of shit.
Yeah.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:I was also an Andre Agassi fan.
Marc:Oh, yeah.
Marc:Tennis was cool.
Guest:Yeah, tennis was cool.
Guest:I mean, I'm sure it is cool to people who still follow it today.
Guest:I'm not one of those people.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Okay, another very simple question.
Guest:Somebody just said, what movies have you seen recently?
Guest:And for me, that answer is Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse and Bo is Afraid.
Guest:Those are like the two movies I've seen recently, not much of anything else.
Guest:And I enjoyed both of those immensely.
Guest:So I recommend them.
Guest:Now you, Chris, you see like a movie a day.
Marc:Yeah, I mean, that's the benefit of not having any kids, and my wife works till like 8 p.m.
Marc:most days, so I got lots of time.
Marc:I just recently saw the new Indiana Jones movie.
Marc:We have a friend who's in the press, and he invited me, and the movie was god-awful.
Marc:Yeah, that doesn't surprise.
Marc:I pity the people that go to see this.
Marc:And I actually feel bad for Harrison Ford.
Marc:He just looks as bored as ever doing this.
Marc:And I honestly don't blame him.
Marc:There's nothing practical about any of these movies.
Marc:Like he's super good in this show Shrinking that I told you about.
Marc:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marc:And I think I pinpointed why.
Marc:It's because he can actually like interact with objects and people.
Marc:And in these movies, it's all just tennis balls and, you know, green screen.
Marc:It just sucks.
Guest:He just got a nice paycheck.
Marc:Yeah, yeah.
Marc:So that movie, really bad.
Marc:I saw The Flash on Monday.
Marc:That was really fun, even though the end is like an assault on your eyes and the lead is problematic in real life.
Marc:But The Flash overall, really good, really fun time.
Marc:And then, of course, I saw Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse.
Marc:And I think that's my favorite movie that I've seen recently.
Marc:You know, it's a comic book come to life.
Marc:The visuals are great.
Guest:The art is amazing in it.
Guest:And the first thing I saw when I came out of it was this was really the first comic book movie I saw that let the art do a lot of the storytelling.
Guest:There's a lot of stuff that is communicated through the way things are rendered, how they look as though they are drawn.
Guest:And it's great.
Guest:It really was a kind of
Guest:Perfect combination of artful and exciting and mainstream, accessible, but also thoughtful.
Guest:It's just great.
Guest:Great, great movie.
Guest:And if I'm not giving anything away to you to say this, it is a part one of a two-part movie.
Guest:So if you go to see it, please don't be mad at us for recommending it and then say, where's my second part?
Guest:It doesn't come out for a year.
Guest:You just have to know that going into it.
Marc:Yeah, that's really important to know as people in my screening were like audibly upset.
Guest:I told you this.
Guest:I had people sitting around me screamed like they would have been stabbed with a knife.
Guest:Screamed like it was blood, blood curdling.
Guest:And, you know, they're just going to have to wait a year.
Guest:Sorry.
Guest:Hey, like what did people think happened at the end of Empire Strikes Back?
Guest:You had to wait like three years.
Marc:I know.
Guest:And nobody complained.
Guest:They left the theater and they went, well, I can't wait to see what happens next.
Guest:Right, right.
Guest:That's a good thing to bring up because you seeing all these movies got me thinking that, yeah, these are big movies coming out.
Guest:They're coming out for summertime.
Guest:But like there really is no summer movie season anymore.
Guest:Like, you remember, like, Endgame came out in, like, April?
Guest:Like, they're just... Big movies are out all the time, and it's... Right.
Guest:It's not a thing anymore.
Guest:They put some big movies out during the summer, especially they know people are out of school and whatnot, but...
Guest:Man, the idea of the summer blockbuster season starting was a huge part of my life for so many years.
Guest:Through my 20s and 30s even.
Guest:It's only been in the last decade and a half that it's really gone away.
Guest:And so I started to think, what were the best...
Guest:moments of summer blockbuster season.
Guest:I guess we can tag this as, you know, starting at really the first summer blockbusters considered Jaws, June 20th, 1975.
Guest:So that's like the start of it.
Guest:The first one I was conscious for...
Guest:speaking of is return of the jedi which was which came out 40 years ago now i think it just had its had its 40th uh uh anniversary yeah it was memorial day weekend 1983 and we saw it in the theater five times i remember all five of them i remember specifically five separate times going to the theater to see return of the jedi wow and
Guest:And and so, yeah, that's that's my first memory.
Guest:But my it was very soon after 1984 that I fully understood the concept of like when summer comes, it is time for movies like the best, most fun, biggest, exciting movies.
Guest:And that was because in 1994, we got Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.
Guest:That was on May 23rd, Memorial Day weekend.
Guest:And then on June 8th, the same day, Ghostbusters and Gremlins.
Guest:Wow.
Guest:What a time to be alive, honestly.
Guest:And yeah, then it was off to the races.
Guest:You had like, you know...
Guest:Great blockbuster movies every year.
Guest:I think the one that I remember really looking forward to months in advance was Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
Guest:That was 1998.
Guest:And I remember the anticipation of that really built.
Guest:But nothing can beat that following year.
Guest:Do you remember that following year, 1989?
Guest:No.
Guest:In May, you got Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.
Guest:Wow, you saw that in the theater?
Guest:I saw it in the drive-in theater.
Marc:Yeah, absolutely.
Marc:That's awesome.
Marc:You didn't see it in the theater?
Marc:I don't think I did, man.
Marc:I remember that on VHS tape.
Marc:Like, yeah.
Guest:89 was the, this was like the crazy summer.
Guest:It was Indy 3.
Guest:You also had Ghostbusters 2.
Guest:Mm-hmm.
Guest:There were some smaller blockbusters, but still blockbusters nonetheless.
Guest:Honey, I Shrunk the Kids.
Guest:I remember that, yeah.
Guest:The Naked Gun.
Guest:Right.
Guest:I remember going to see that in the theater.
Guest:But the big one was the Michael Keaton Batman.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And that was the first time like a movie got hyped for months in my in my recollection.
Guest:Like I was aware of that movie.
Guest:I think they released the trailer in February and it was everywhere.
Guest:And there were like news stories about it, about how people were going to buy tickets to movies that they knew the trailer was playing on just so they could see the Batman trailer.
Guest:And then basically it became every year you'd plug in like I think the year after Batman 1990 in that same weekend with Dick Tracy.
Guest:And then like two years later is Batman Returns.
Guest:Like there was always they would plug in to those spots an equivalent movie from previous years.
Guest:And that was joyful.
Guest:You would always know what to expect.
Guest:It's summertime.
Guest:It's going to be Father's Day weekend.
Guest:It's going to be a crazy superhero movie or something like that.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And then, you know, the other big one was 1993, which we just passed the 30th anniversary of its release, was Jurassic Park.
Guest:That was another hype forever.
Guest:I was anticipating that one because I read the book before they even announced the movie.
Guest:And I was reading the book, imagining who would play these parts when they made a movie.
Guest:And the craziest thing about that was I envisioned Sam Neill.
Guest:Why?
Guest:Because he... I'll tell you exactly why.
Guest:He had just been in a movie with Chevy Chase called Memoirs of an Invisible Man.
Guest:Never seen it.
Guest:And I remembered his face, his look, his presentation.
Guest:And I imagined him in Jurassic Park...
Guest:as the jeff goldblum character oh no kidding like the way that guy was written he was british i thought sam neill was british he's not but like i i was like oh this is like a slick british dude he's smarter than everybody he's uh you know he's good looking and i envisioned in my head this guy sam neill and then i heard the movie was coming out and who's in it sam neill i thought
Guest:This is crazy.
Guest:This guy is going to be the part that I envisioned in my brain.
Guest:And no, he's the guy who I thought in my mind looked like Rick Rubin.
Guest:Like I was like, oh, this guy who's like a dinosaur scientist.
Guest:He's like...
Marc:Got a big beard and like, this guy looked nothing like Sam Neill.
Marc:Did that fuck with your movie going experience?
Marc:You're like, I can't.
Marc:It did not.
Guest:I surrendered very quickly to it.
Guest:The one casting thing I did have differently in my brain because of that book was I had pictured, do you remember the guy?
Guest:His name is William Hickey.
Guest:And he is in My Blue Heaven.
Guest:He's like one of the mobsters.
Guest:And he's also in Witness Protection Program.
Guest:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:And Steve Martin comes across him in the pet store or something, and he's like, I taught my bird to say, you're under arrest.
Guest:And he's like, oh, it's you, you know?
Guest:So that guy, he's a character actor.
Guest:He'd show up in a bunch of things.
Guest:I envisioned him playing the grandpa.
Guest:Oh, buddy.
Guest:Who, in the book, is a bad person and gets what he deserves.
Guest:Like, he gets killed by the dinosaurs.
Guest:And he's not a nice guy.
Guest:And the movie...
Guest:turned him into an avuncular, you know, jolly fella played by Richard Attenborough.
Guest:But that was one where I was like an early moment of being a casting agent in my head.
Guest:I'm like, oh, this should be that guy, William Hickey.
Guest:And it was because they completely changed the role.
Guest:He couldn't have ever played it.
Guest:But yeah, that was a great memory of anticipating Jurassic Park for so many months, probably being the first thing I ever read before I saw.
Guest:And it was a huge, huge feeling when that finally came out in the theaters.
Marc:I'm so glad that other people like yourself read that.
Marc:you know, books and they envision who would play them like in your head.
Marc:I always wonder about that.
Marc:Like, like when people are reading, are they picturing it like playing out?
Marc:Like it's really happening and who are they, who are they, you know, thinking is, uh, is acting in it or, you know, I try generally to just go by the author.
Guest:Like, I'm not going to like, you know, make some, I'm not going to like make Ben Affleck work for Harry Potter or whatever, but like, he'd be so good.
Guest:I'll see if I can get my brain there in terms of having a person I latch onto that I already know representing this character.
Marc:So my summer blockbuster began much later than you, which is not surprising.
Marc:We have a bunch of movie friends, and you all have a vast knowledge of movies.
Marc:My first summer blockbuster that I can remember being so hyped for...
Marc:was Independence Day.
Marc:That was a huge one.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And they would play the teaser.
Marc:I think they had like a Super Bowl ad that year.
Guest:Well, the Super Bowl ad was like the cornerstone of the marketing campaign because all it was was the scene where they blow up all the buildings, including like the Empire State Building and the White House.
Guest:And people were like, what the fuck is that?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah, so that was my movie.
Marc:I must have saw that like four times.
Guest:Well, I wonder, though, if your memory of it is heightened, though, by the fact that that was, by the time that rolled around, 1996, that was the pinnacle.
Guest:of the summer movie season.
Guest:So much so that they made a big deal of the fact that that year, the summer movie season was going to start in the beginning of May.
Guest:I believe it was May 3rd, 1996.
Guest:And that was because Twister was going to be released on that day.
Guest:And the promotion around Twister was, this is the start of the summer movie season.
Guest:And everyone's like, it's the beginning of May.
Guest:We haven't even gotten to Memorial Day yet.
Guest:That's right.
Guest:How is it to start?
Guest:And they're like, nope, summer blockbuster.
Guest:And it was huge.
Guest:Twister was a huge movie.
Guest:And then so you got Twister, then Mission Impossible, then The Rock, Cable Guy, which I loved.
Guest:It did not do well in the theater, but I anticipated that coming out.
Guest:The Nutty Professor, which was like Eddie Murphy's big comeback and was a huge hit.
Guest:And then you waited till July 4th was Independence Day.
Guest:So that was a huge two months of just like, it was a, it was like a sugar overload.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I mean, in nowadays it's, it's considered, it's like, I mean, nowadays it's like that Spider-Verse movie came out and the next week there's another movie.
Marc:The Flash, right.
Marc:Yeah, The Flash.
Marc:And it's just like, wow, can't you guys give it like, I don't know, three weeks to breathe?
Marc:No, you're just going to keep going.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:Independence Day, I remember seeing the theater too and loving it.
Guest:I liked it less so when I watched it with my son recently.
Guest:In fact, I was pretty sure it's a bad movie and there's just some nice nostalgia moments to it.
Guest:But he loved it.
Guest:So there you go.
Guest:It works if you're a kid.
Guest:In fact, he loved it so much he asked to watch more movies like Independence Day.
Guest:And I said...
Guest:Well, that's interesting.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:What, what is it about Independence Day you like?
Guest:Because it could be a lot of things, right?
Guest:Like, is it that you like that it's about aliens?
Guest:Do you want something more aliens?
Guest:Right.
Guest:I said, or is it just, was it the action?
Guest:Like there's military involved.
Guest:There's a lot of like fighter jet scenes and stuff.
Guest:Do you want something that's more like action and flying?
Guest:And I said, or was it the like disaster aspect?
Guest:Like the people were running and screaming for their lives.
Guest:He goes, people running, screaming for their lives.
Yeah.
Marc:That's great.
Marc:I'm like, oh, all right.
Marc:Well, we can find something like that.
Marc:Man, I was on a Will Smith kick, though, because Bad Boys 2 came out, and Men in Black.
Marc:Remember Men in Black?
Guest:Bad Boys 1 came out around the same time.
Marc:Oh, yeah.
Marc:That's right.
Guest:Yeah, 1995 was Bad Boys 1.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And then he does...
Guest:Independence Day, the next year.
Guest:And then he did Men in Black.
Guest:Men in Black is 97.
Guest:Yeah, exactly.
Marc:I mean, what a three-year run.
Marc:That's a hell of a run.
Marc:I mean, three, and I loved all of them.
Marc:Yes.
Guest:Oh, yeah.
Guest:No, he was unstoppable until Wild Wild West.
Marc:Oh, yeah.
Guest:Put the brakes on that.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Well, yeah.
Guest:Did you have any summer blockbusters that just completely gutted you?
Guest:Like they totally disappointed and you never forgave it?
Marc:Oh, yeah.
Marc:I mean, Batman and Robin.
Marc:That was... I remember being psyched.
Marc:for that movie.
Marc:Like my brother.
Marc:Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Marc:Yeah, Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Marc:And you know, it was just like gonna be like the big movie.
Marc:I remember my brother's friend Brian or Q from Impractical Jokers.
Marc:He stole a bus poster
Marc:of that movie for me, and it was literally just hanging in my bedroom.
Marc:It took up my entire wall, and yeah, I was super excited about that.
Marc:Saw it opening day twice, and it was just horrible.
Marc:Or was it one of those ones you saw and you were like, it's okay.
Marc:I'll see it again.
Marc:I'm sure it'll get better.
Marc:No, it was one of those where, okay, I got tickets to like the 4 p.m.
Marc:and the 7 p.m.
Marc:show.
Marc:Oh, no.
Marc:Yeah, like I knew I wanted to see it again.
Marc:And yeah, it was not good.
Marc:It was not good.
Marc:Also, Phantom Menace.
Marc:Star Wars Phantom Menace.
Guest:Yeah, I think it took me years to acknowledge that was bad.
Guest:Really?
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:Like, I mean, I knew it while I was watching it.
Guest:I had a bad feeling about this.
Guest:But it definitely didn't, I didn't get the confidence to acknowledge we had all been had until several years later.
Guest:The one I was furious about in the theater was,
Guest:was the second Jurassic park, the lost world.
Guest:Like I was sitting there groaning that I was so angry about how bad that movie was.
Guest:In fact, we were so angry how bad that was.
Guest:We left the theater and walked into without paying for it.
Guest:Uh,
Guest:Austin Powers, which we had not seen, and it was new.
Guest:It was just, you know, oh, Mike Myers.
Guest:We like Mike Myers.
Guest:And we walked into it, and I'm not saying we snuck into a film, because if someone had stopped us walking in, I was going to say, this is what I'm doing instead of coming up there and asking for a refund for seeing...
Guest:Jurassic Park 2.
Guest:So you can either give me a refund or let me just go into Austin Powers.
Guest:And that didn't happen.
Guest:I just walked right in.
Guest:Nobody said anything.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And that was the right move because I loved Austin Powers.
Guest:I never liked the rest of the Austin Powers stuff, but I loved it.
Guest:loved that first Austin Powers.
Guest:And I have to wonder how much of that was because I just had this terrible taste in my mouth from the Jurassic Park 2.
Marc:You know, walking out of a movie and going to another movie, it just brings up like one of my earliest movie memories.
Marc:And it really changed my life as far as movies.
Marc:Like my buddy and I, his mom dropped us off at the movie theater.
Marc:We were supposed to see
Marc:Like some double feature kids movie.
Marc:I forget what it was.
Marc:I wish I could remember what it was.
Marc:But we went in and we were just bored with it.
Marc:So we snuck into Pulp Fiction.
Marc:Oh, geez.
Marc:And I mean, you know, we were, I mean, I don't know how old I was at the time.
Marc:I forget when that movie came out.
Marc:But it was the scene where Travolta shows up with Uma Thurman ODing.
Marc:And it was just such a crazy juxtaposition from what I was previously watching.
Marc:And now it was like adult.
Marc:Yeah, yeah.
Marc:You Wizard of Oz did.
Marc:Like you walked through the portal.
Marc:Totally.
Marc:And then like Travolta, star of look who's talking, right, is killed in the movie.
Marc:And, you know, startling.
Marc:And then he shows up in another scene later on.
Marc:And my brain...
Marc:Like spilled open on the third floor, man.
Marc:Like I remember hearing, I can still hear the crowd murmuring about it too.
Marc:And like, I honestly think my life was forever changed.
Marc:Like I'm dead serious.
Guest:I mean, I had that feeling with that movie and we went to see it deliberately.
Guest:Like we were like, let's go see Pulp Fiction.
Guest:We had seen Reservoir Dogs.
Guest:We were already...
Guest:yes already fans of that and so we were like well i was anticipating this big time pulp fiction when it came out and but i still remember sitting there in the in the theater being like oh everything just changed yeah like i had that feeling like this changed this changed movies this things are going to be different now and it did i was not wrong yes yeah so so happy to hear that from someone else oh my god that's great
Guest:If there are any other fun movie moments that you have listening to this, send it to us in the comment form.
Guest:I love hearing from people about their great movie experiences.
Guest:I guess it doesn't have to be summer, but just because we're in the summer right now, we're kind of talking about it.
Guest:All right, here's another thing.
Guest:This is on a wrestling note here.
Guest:Someone sent this in.
Guest:saying, I feel like music is a hugely important but underrated aspect of wrestling.
Guest:The wrong theme song can tank a wrestler, but the right theme song can make a wrestler feel special.
Guest:That being said, what are your favorite lesser-known wrestling entrance themes?
Guest:I'm thinking less Undertaker, Stone Cold, or Real American, and more Dan the Beast Severin or Demolition or Orient Express.
Guest:Well, I would quibble with the Demolition one.
Guest:Now it's...
Guest:just amazing kick-ass song that was on a record that you could buy at the store.
Guest:So I think that's well known enough.
Guest:It's not obscure, but I'll take the challenge here, a more obscure theme.
Guest:And I definitely have some, uh, do you, does any come to mind for you, Chris?
Marc:I mean, I mean, when I was a kid, the song that was on repeat, uh, was, uh, Shawn Michaels theme song.
Marc:I feel like that's too, like, uh, what's the word, you know, just too out there.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Yes.
Marc:Yeah, but Coco Beware.
Marc:Oh, now which one?
Marc:Do you have a memory?
Marc:Did you grab it?
Marc:Oh, yeah, I do have it.
Guest:Do the bird, bird, bird.
Guest:Do the bird, bird, bird.
Guest:Come on, everybody.
Guest:Get up off your feet.
Guest:Put your hands together and do the bird with me.
Guest:Yeah, that's great.
Guest:I mean, you know why that's great?
Guest:Because anybody can do the bird.
Guest:What's the bird?
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:Just wave your hands around.
Marc:I remember my dad telling me to shut this off because I would just crank it so hard.
Guest:Well, that's great.
Guest:There's so many good ones from that era because they had this guy, Jim Johnston, along with Jimmy Hart, the manager.
Guest:But Jim Johnston, who is the main guy who did the WWF theme songs, he was so good at these very simple, repetitive patterns that you just could loop over and over again.
Marc:And you're like, oh, yeah, now I'm totally ready for this guy to come out.
Marc:I didn't know Mouth of the South did that.
Marc:Like, that was his real gimmick.
Guest:Yes, yes.
Guest:I think he worked a lot more closely with songs that had, like, lyrics to them.
Guest:Like, the Honky Tonk Man song.
Marc:Well, that was my other one.
Marc:I love the Honky Tonk Man's theme song.
Marc:Like, that was the best.
Guest:Yeah, I mean, the Honky Tonk Man's theme.
Guest:Here, we'll play a little bit over here.
Yeah.
Marc:You can play this on the radio.
Guest:I got long sideburns and my hair's slicked back.
Guest:I'm coming to your town in my pink Cadillac.
Guest:I'm just a honky-tonk.
Guest:Yeah, I mean, that's a great song, just like you said, and it was on an album.
Guest:Like, you could buy it at the store.
Guest:That's like a real song, but it worked great for this guy.
Guest:He was an Elvis impersonator and comes out, and his whole thing was, you want to hear me sing my song?
Guest:And everyone would boo, and he'd go, all right, thank you very much, a beautiful audience.
Guest:And then he'd sing his song.
Guest:Like, that's a great gimmick.
Guest:Like, amazing heat to get out of that.
Guest:And I like any song, much like you mentioned with the Shawn Michaels one, I like any song where the bad guy sings.
Guest:Yeah, totally right.
Guest:The Mountie was another guy who had a song where he sang.
Guest:That's great.
Guest:See, I have criteria for this.
Guest:For me to say, Oh, that's like, cause any song can be kind of awesome.
Guest:And you use it as an entrance song.
Guest:Like all it needs is like some driving guitar.
Guest:Like think about the ultimate warrior.
Guest:Like there's nothing to that song, but it's amazing to have this guy running to the ring and it's going like, you're like, Oh geez.
Guest:Wow.
Guest:It's crazy.
Guest:But I, my criteria for, if I'm going to say it's a, it's a great wrestling entrance song, it needs to be for a heel and
Guest:It should be obnoxious, but still a good song.
Guest:Like still, there's still something like cool about it.
Guest:And I can picture it playing like while I'm at the grocery store, like shopping.
Guest:Like I walked in and this song starts out and it's like, oh no, this guy's here.
Guest:He's going right to the produce.
Guest:Oh man, now this guy.
Guest:That's why MJF's song is great.
Guest:Like that's a great, that fits all the criteria.
Guest:Like it's, it's, it's a, you hear it.
Guest:Everybody starts booing automatically.
Guest:You know, he comes out, he's walking like a jerk to the, in time to this music.
Guest:But then you listen to it and you're like, that's kind of good music.
Yeah.
Guest:So I have this two times.
Guest:I have two songs that I think qualify for this.
Guest:And they also fit the criterion of the listener who said, no mainstream songs, nothing that people know.
Guest:This should be lesser known songs.
Guest:So not only is this a lesser known song, this is for a lesser known act.
Guest:This was for the Beverly Brothers in the WWF.
Guest:And they were a heel tag team in like the early 90s.
Guest:There is really nothing to say about them.
Guest:Bo and Blake Beverly, a bad name with a bad gimmick of that they were rich kids.
Guest:They were managed by the genius.
Guest:And so you're just kind of supposed to boo them because, right?
Guest:Well, I think the reason they got any heat whatsoever was because of their awesome, awesome music.
Thank you.
Guest:You picture these two guys coming out in these purple robes with stars on them.
Guest:They're blonde.
Guest:The genius is walking in front of them.
Guest:He's like telling the crowd they suck and everything.
Guest:These guys are strutting out there to this.
Guest:It sounds like it's like level two on Sonic the Hedgehog.
Marc:It actually sounds like the price is right.
Marc:Like, all right, tell them what you want.
Guest:And then it just loops right back to this.
Guest:It's so douchey, but like it will be in your head all day now.
Guest:That's a great, great wrestling entrance song.
Guest:But my favorite, this is like a legit favorite entrance song.
Guest:It's not just an obscure favorite entrance song.
Guest:I love this entrance song.
Guest:And it was for a bad guy wrestler.
Guest:And he, you know, the goal was to get him hated and get people booing him.
Guest:And they would the minute they heard the song.
Guest:And then what's great about this song is it has a ramp up.
Guest:so that he can allow the song to play out as he walks down the aisle.
Guest:And then when he gets in the ring and he can stand up on the ropes and try to do the pose where you bask in the glory of the crowd, and they can reign him with booze.
Guest:And right at that moment, it would kick into a better part.
Guest:And this was for a wrestler named Rick Martell, who, when he went heel, adopted the gimmick of the model.
Guest:And the model was just a guy who looked sexy, I guess.
Guest:And he...
Guest:would show you his great face and his great clothes.
Guest:And here was the model's theme as he came out.
Guest:So also booze immediately from that like harp at the beginning.
Guest:Totally.
Guest:And now you just like you get to take your time walking down the aisle.
Guest:He had a he came down with an atomizer, you know, like a thing you put water in and spray.
Guest:And he said that was his cologne.
Guest:And it was called arrogance.
Guest:And he would spray this on the fans as he's coming out.
Marc:And Jake Roberts.
Guest:yes right and this saxophone music is playing and people are booing the shit out of him and now he's at the point where he's like at the ring right yeah and then you can hear it it kind of like kicks in a little bit more he's in the ropes the model rick martell now he's up on the ropes
Guest:Glorious.
Guest:Oh yeah.
Guest:That's nice.
Guest:This awesome Casio keyboard they're using.
Totally.
Guest:I think Jim Johnston agrees with me, though, because he had this habit of recycling songs.
Guest:Like when a wrestler would leave, then many years later, you'd hear that same melody or sometimes the same outright song for another guy.
Guest:And that Rick the Model song got turned into the song for a wrestler named Val Venus, who was a porn star gimmick.
Guest:And in the Val Venus gimmick, which is terrible, but I'll play it for you.
Guest:He the it's the same general song.
Guest:It just has a way more prominent saxophone up front so that it sounded more like, I don't know, a cheesy porno video.
Marc:Oh, wow.
Wow.
Guest:I mean, it's still good.
Guest:It's more cartoonish, but it works well.
Guest:And this guy would come out with, he'd be wearing, made to look like he was wearing only a towel, but he has wrestling trunks underneath.
Guest:And so here, at the big build part, he'd put his arms out, he'd grab the towel, and he'd whip it off and spin it around.
Marc:The kids loved it.
Guest:Yeah, not my favorite era of wrestling when they got into all that stuff.
Guest:They all need a job.
Guest:They all need a job.
Guest:Everybody's got a job.
Guest:If you're not the Repo Man, you're a porn star.
Guest:Well, if you are a big wrestling fan and you have your own thoughts of this, send them in.
Guest:We'd love to hear your favorite wrestling theme songs.
Guest:It can be obscure.
Guest:It can be just regular ones.
Guest:Let us know.
Guest:Just go to the episode description.
Guest:We got the comment link right there.
Guest:And there's also the link to Ask Mark Anything, so you can send him a comment.
Guest:He'll be doing that on Tuesday of next week for you Full Marin subscribers.
Guest:And we're about to wrap up here.
Guest:Anytime we see that the comments are getting full, we'll go through them again and maybe have another kind of grab bag episode like this.
Guest:And before we go, let's just address the thing we always do at the end of the Friday show, the best thing we saw in wrestling this week.
Guest:Chris, what is your choice?
Marc:Oh, man, this was tough.
Marc:Can I just say AEW Dynamite?
Marc:Because I just want to say... Yeah, it was a hot show.
Marc:They loaded it up.
Marc:I mean, there was a... The first match was MGF versus, you know... Adam Cole.
Marc:Adam Cole.
Marc:I was calling Michael Cole, too.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And it's funny because there's always, you know, it's always in the background where they're announcing who's coming down the aisle.
Marc:And it's like, oh, it's a 30-minute time limit.
Marc:And it's just like, all right.
Marc:You know, it's, like, totally in the background.
Marc:It never comes up again.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:And this match had, like, the perfect finish to...
Marc:To this great match, which was they count to two and about to count to three and the bell rings and it's over because they reached the 30 minute time of it.
Guest:Do you want to know what's amazing about that?
Guest:What?
Guest:If you go back, if you have it, if you still have it on, you know, a DVR or something and you check out the timing from when the match started, the bell rung.
Guest:Is it 30 minutes?
Guest:It was 29 minutes and 58 seconds.
Guest:No kidding.
Guest:They got it as close as they possibly could.
Guest:Like, you know, they're going to ring the bell at the two count no matter what.
Guest:But they would have rung it if it was at, you know, if they were 30 seconds early or 30 seconds late.
Guest:Who cares?
Guest:Nobody's sitting there with a stopwatch.
Guest:while the match is going on.
Guest:But they got it, the timing of this, to two seconds away from being exactly 30 minutes.
Guest:Wow.
Marc:Crazy.
Guest:That's just great.
Guest:I would say the best thing I saw, though, was in that match.
Guest:I'm going to dial it into a specific moment from that match.
Guest:So there's a spot in wrestling that's called the Eddie Guerrero spot, although it existed long before Eddie.
Guest:It's a classic just kind of heel move.
Guest:But MJF has been doing it recently, and he won a match because of it.
Guest:And what you do is you have a legal object, in this case, a wrestling belt.
Guest:And...
Guest:You have it in your possession when the ref is not looking and then throw it to your opponent and take a phantom bump.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And then the ref turns around and sees your opponent holding the smoking gun.
Guest:Right.
Guest:This in this case, a wrestling belt.
Guest:And you are on the ground and the referee says, oh, you just hit him with that.
Guest:Ding, ding, ding.
Guest:You're disqualified.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So in this match, the ref gets hit in the head by an accidental bump.
Guest:He falls down.
Guest:MJF goes and gets the belt.
Guest:You think that he's going to hit Adam Cole with this belt.
Guest:And MJF looks over.
Guest:He sees the referee is getting up.
Guest:So he decides, oh, I'm going to do the thing that has worked for me before.
Guest:Tosses the belt to Adam Cole.
Guest:takes a big bump on his back and awaits the referee soon to be turning around, seeing this and disqualifying Adam Cole.
Guest:Well, what happens is the ref turns around and collapses because he's concussed or something.
Guest:He is not recovered from this bump to the head he took.
Guest:And so he doesn't see it.
Guest:And now MJF has just handed to his opponent a weapon, which Adam Cole then, after milking the crowd a little bit,
Guest:will he use it will he not use it of course he uses it to smash mjf over the head uh and in a different match that actually probably would have been the finish it was not the finish here because they needed to go the full 30 but i would it's a thing if you watch wrestling every now and then you will see something you've never seen before and i have never seen that i've never seen that spot backfire and it backfired in a great way
Marc:Speaking of something we've never seen before, I really enjoy Chris Jericho and Sting sharing the ring.
Marc:How has that never happened before?
Marc:That's crazy.
Guest:They said that on the broadcast, that those guys have never been face-to-face in a ring before.
Guest:Insanity.
Guest:How?
Marc:They were both in WCW.
Marc:Like, how?
Guest:Yeah, I mean, WCW was incompetent with a lot of that stuff, and they kept people apart.
Guest:I'm just more surprised they were never in the ring together for, like, some type of Legends segment in WWE or even in AEW.
Guest:Like, wow, it's just crazy.
Guest:They've never crossed paths.
Marc:Yeah, so I really enjoyed that.
Marc:I also loved Orange Cassidy talking to the incredible Rene Paquette and how he's like, yeah, how this usually goes is you ask me that question and someone interrupts me.
Marc:Oh, here we go.
Marc:And someone actually doesn't...
Marc:It cracked me up so much.
Marc:I also love like the Young Bucks rocking the Macho Man Randy Savage look.
Marc:I really enjoyed that when they came out.
Marc:Also, did you notice that the graphic that they came out to, it's like the Young Bucks and Hangman.
Marc:Yeah, last week they were calling them the Hung Bucks.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:So now it says formally known by a sexually suggestive and anatomically incorrect team name, which is great.
Guest:I guess they must have gotten some note.
Guest:Hey, guys, we got to stop doing that hung bucks thing.
Guest:But they still made a joke about it in the in the in the Chiron.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Also, especially when I'm wearing headphones, the the young bucks matches are great because I love always talking.
Marc:Always talking.
Marc:It's hilarious.
Guest:I love it.
Guest:I love it so much.
Guest:My favorite is usually like when they're in midair about to hit a guy, they go, see you in hell.
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Guest:And hit him.
Marc:Also, just the last five minutes of that match were awesome.
Marc:What do you mean the last five minutes of the match or after the match?
Guest:Right, after the match.
Guest:Yes, yes.
Guest:After the match, a million guys came out and it seemed like they were running through like five different stories.
Guest:It was like a season finale where they have to get you up to speed on all the plot twists that are happening.
Guest:Yeah, Eddie was my favorite because, I mean, we haven't seen him in a while.
Guest:Eddie Kingston, yeah.
Guest:The great thing about Eddie Kingston, I believe it was my brother who pointed this out.
Guest:He said, Eddie Kingston's gimmick is he thinks wrestling is real, which I think is so funny.
Guest:That's how you would describe a guy in wrestling as thinking wrestling is real.
Guest:But that's what it is.
Guest:It works.
Guest:Everything he does, he's not the guy who's ever going to look the best.
Guest:He's not going to have the killer moves or anything like that.
Guest:But everything he does, he does with conviction because you really believe this guy, he loves wrestling more than anything in the world.
Guest:It is still real to him.
Marc:Yeah, totally.
Marc:And yeah, then they just kept on coming out with Will Ospreay comes out at the end.
Marc:It was just, I mean, if there was ever a doubt that AEW could handle another night of wrestling, they just like showed you that they have the depth for it.
Guest:Yes, well, that'll be this Saturday.
Guest:We'll see how it goes with their new two-hour show on TNT.
Guest:yeah yeah for sure and forbidden door just sign me up i'm i'm in yeah it looks good looks good there's it's i gotta say and this is coming from somebody who is a wrestling fan so much so that i have no problem with doing an hour a week talking about wrestling like we you know we we had wrestlers on our show and i'm you know i'm a fan there's no doubt about that i'm even like oh boy this is gonna be a lot of wrestling in a week i'm not sure i'm not sure every week i'm gonna watch all of this
Marc:I know.
Marc:I was starting to get a little nervous.
Marc:I was like, oh, man, that's a lot of content.
Marc:I might just read a recap.
Guest:I think there might be some times where you're like, oh, yeah, tell me what happened on that because I might not catch every single one of them.
Guest:Yeah, totally.
Guest:All right.
Guest:Well, we will watch the debut of it, which is tomorrow, Saturday.
Guest:And maybe next week we'll have our thoughts on this new two hours of pro wrestling every week.
Guest:But for now, this is The Friday Show.
Guest:I'm Brendan.
Guest:That's Chris.
Guest:Peace.