BONUS Producer Cuts - Jessica Chastain, Felicia Michaels, Marc's fears, resentments and vegan chili
Guest:Hey there, Full Marin listeners.
Guest:This is Brendan, the producer of the show, and these are the producer cuts.
Guest:What we do here is I present to you some of the things we've had to cut out of the show in recent weeks, and I explain to you why we did, and then they're here for you for your enjoyment, whereas otherwise we would be leaving them in a folder on my computer, never to be heard from again.
Guest:And first this week, I want to play for you something that no one has heard yet.
Guest:It is an episode that has not yet aired.
Guest:We were actually asked to hold off on airing it until mid-August.
Guest:And this is with Jessica Chastain.
Guest:I will continue to edit this episode.
Guest:I am not finished yet, but I know that I will not be including at least most of what you're about to hear.
Guest:This happened, if you listened to our producer cuts when we did the Brooke Shields
Guest:episode.
Guest:There was a good example of something that happened when Mark and Brooke started talking right when the microphones were open.
Guest:And it was just something that I couldn't start the actual episode with.
Guest:And this is kind of the same thing.
Guest:It's Mark and Jessica having a very fun talk about Mark's current vegan diet.
Guest:And I thought it was entertaining, but just not a good entry point for most listeners.
Guest:I might be able to save some of this when we do the actual episode.
Guest:But for now, the entirety of this is going to be heard only by you, the Full Marin listeners.
Guest:And this is an episode that won't be coming out until mid-August.
Guest:This is with the Academy Award winning actress, Jessica Chastain.
Guest:You can pull that thing in.
Guest:All right.
Guest:How close?
Marc:That's good.
Marc:Can you hear yourself?
Guest:Yeah, I can hear myself.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:Nice to see you.
Guest:What happened to your hand?
Guest:Cooking?
Marc:Yes.
Marc:I mean, sometimes I think I still have restaurant hands because I worked in a restaurant at some point in my life.
Guest:Cooking in a restaurant?
Guest:Right.
Marc:Just like a short order.
Marc:No, I'm not a real cook.
Marc:It was years ago.
Marc:It was probably the last job I had, 19...
Marc:I don't know.
Marc:I was probably just out of college.
Marc:But, yes.
Marc:But, you know, when you cook in a kitchen, you just think you cook.
Guest:Yeah, of course.
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Guest:Covered in.
Marc:But I did it twice.
Marc:I stuck it into a toaster.
Guest:You stuck it?
Marc:So stupid.
Marc:Because I was dealing with, you know, some sort of, you know, badly melting vegan cheese.
Marc:That's the problem.
Guest:That's the hardest part about the cheese.
Guest:How long have you been a vegan?
Guest:For almost 20 years.
Marc:So that's crazy.
Guest:I know.
Guest:I was like, I was vegan before they even really had store-bought vegan cheese.
Marc:It was an ethical thing?
Guest:When did it start?
Guest:It started, I think, because I didn't have a lot of energy.
Guest:I wasn't feeling well.
Guest:And then a friend of mine who was a famous actress... You can mention her name.
Guest:Okay, Michelle Williams.
Guest:We did a play together, and she had this...
Guest:a two-week food delivery program that they gave her at some award show, and then she wasn't gonna use it, so she gave it to me, and it was vegan food.
Marc:And that was it?
Marc:Yeah, and that was it.
Marc:Wait, so you felt better?
Marc:Like the energy thing resolved itself?
Guest:Yeah, I mean, not only was it vegan, it was like raw vegan, which that was rough.
Guest:That was crazy.
Guest:And I did like a week, and the first week I was just so pissed off all the time, and I just felt like, what is this?
Guest:And then the second week, it felt like I was high.
Guest:Really?
Guest:I was like, all of a sudden, I was like, yeah, man.
Guest:I just felt so happy and calm and cool.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:And then, so yeah, then I finished the two weeks.
Marc:Did that high last till now?
Guest:Well, I'm not raw vegan anymore.
Marc:Well, you think it was the raw thing.
Guest:I think so.
Guest:I mean, when I finished, though, I went and had fish and risotto, and immediately I just felt tired and sick again.
Marc:Really?
Guest:I was like, gosh darn it, I'm vegan.
Marc:What do you think it was, though, the fish and risotto?
Marc:The heaviness, maybe?
Marc:The dairy?
Marc:Because I don't know.
Marc:I don't know what to make of it.
Guest:You know, it's like someone said to me that, you know, when you do your food digestion, your body takes 30 percent of your energy that your body is doing.
Guest:So 30 percent, 30 percent.
Guest:So when you're eating food that's harder to digest, then you're losing energy.
Marc:I just noticed that.
Marc:I just noticed something recently that makes sense.
Marc:Like you just made sense of it.
Marc:Oh, I just started going to the gym without eating better.
Guest:Yes, exactly.
Guest:Because you have more energy.
Guest:Isn't that strange?
Marc:It was crazy, but it just happened because I was eating like a bowl of oatmeal before I went to the gym.
Marc:And I was like, fuck.
Guest:Well, there's a gosh, I don't remember the name of it.
Guest:But I saw this Chris Hemsworth show where they were talking about all these health like fountain of youthy stuff.
Marc:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:And one thing, it was like, don't eat.
Guest:And he didn't eat for three days.
Guest:He only drank water.
Guest:And they're like, you're going to go deep, you know, like spearfishing or something after three days of not eating food.
Guest:And it, I mean, he talked about it on the show, but all of a sudden there was this influx of energy.
Marc:Huh.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:So now we know.
Guest:Yeah, but I'm not planning on not eating.
Guest:No, I don't.
Marc:I don't fast.
Marc:I actually started.
Marc:Well, it's probably too much information, but I went vegan only because I did a medical procedure just to test, but I had to clean out.
Marc:So I was like pure.
Marc:I felt like it's all gone.
Marc:Only good stuff goes in now.
Marc:So that's when I started.
Guest:And then did you have a plan of continuing it?
Marc:Not really, but I feel like I was starting to have kind of a visceral reaction to large chunks of meat.
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Marc:Where, like, at some point you're like, no, this is part of something.
Marc:But it wasn't an ethical thing.
Marc:I wanted to see if I could get my cholesterol numbers down.
Guest:They weren't even that high, but I was curious.
Guest:Did they get down?
Marc:Yeah, like immediately.
Marc:Like crazy.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah, same with mine.
Guest:I used to have really high cholesterol as well.
Marc:Just genetic?
Guest:Genetic.
Guest:Right.
Guest:I was in my 20s and they're like, we want to put you on medication for it.
Guest:I was like, what?
Marc:Really?
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Because like mine's a little high and I wanted to see how much of it was genetic and how much of it was not.
Marc:So I was on statins the first...
Marc:Two weeks of being vegan.
Guest:Okay.
Marc:And then I had a blood test scheduled anyways, and it went down like 45 to 50 points.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:And then I'm like, well, I'm going to get off the statin and get another one.
Marc:And it went up to like 100, but it was still something.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It was a difference.
Guest:It's crazy.
Guest:Food really does change so much about your body.
Guest:Well, what do you eat, though?
Marc:Like how do you like – do you get worried about the B12 thing?
Marc:Do you take B12 supplements?
Marc:I don't.
Guest:I'm sorry we're talking about this.
No.
Guest:Welcome to our health show.
Guest:No, I don't actually.
Guest:I mean, sometimes I'll get like a B12 shot or something, but not often.
Marc:How's that?
Marc:Good?
Guest:Yeah, fine.
Guest:I mean, that's crazy.
Guest:It gives me a lot of energy.
Guest:But I cook all my food in a cast iron skillet.
Guest:I don't know if you do that because it gives you, it's like an iron supplement.
Marc:Come on.
Guest:No, no, it's crazy.
Guest:So you don't have to take any iron because when you cook in a cast iron skillet, the iron goes into the food.
Marc:I cook some stuff in a cast iron skill, but just like protein-wise, do you have a vegan sort of chemistry brain?
Marc:Do you know how everything goes together?
Guest:I'm not someone who thinks like I need a ton of protein because there's protein in everything.
Guest:Cauliflower.
Guest:Really?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So I'm not – I'm never like – and also I'm not really – I mean I'm muscly, but I'm not like bulking up.
Guest:I'm not like I need to be on a high-protein diet.
Marc:You never had to bulk up?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:For a roll?
Guest:Well, actually, I did bulk up for a roll, and the nutritionist told me to eat a ton of quinoa.
Marc:Really?
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:So that was for the vegan approach.
Marc:Excuse me.
Marc:Good one.
Guest:Thank you.
Marc:Because I was watching it.
Marc:Like, it's funny, though.
Marc:Like, look, I mean, I loved the George and Tammy.
Marc:I watched it all in a day, which is probably not recommended.
Guest:Oh, you did?
Marc:Oh, my gosh.
Guest:That would be depressing.
Guest:Yeah, it was a lot.
Guest:OK, so look forward to that full episode coming out next month.
Guest:And next, we're going to listen to a clip from the Felicia Michaels episode.
Guest:That was episode 1444.
Guest:A great talk with Felicia, someone who Mark has known for a very long time.
Guest:And because of that, they had a conversation about Mitch Hedberg.
Guest:Who, if you're a Full Marin listener and you love comedy, you probably definitely know who Mitch Hedberg is.
Guest:But I think the general audience at large might not know a ton about Mitch.
Guest:And this is a very kind of familiar discussion about him.
Guest:It just kind of dropped into the middle of the conversation.
Guest:And I didn't think it worked.
Guest:without a big setup or without an explanation as to exactly who Mitch is and the context of him in modern comedy.
Guest:If you are listening to this on The Full Marin and you don't know who Mitch is, I urge you to go watch some Mitch Hedberg stand-up, particularly his Comedy Central half-hour, one of the greats.
Guest:And Mitch Hedberg was really one of the truly visionary comics of the last 20, 30 years.
Guest:Anyway, this is Mark and Felicia Michaels talking about the movie that Mitch made, Los Enchiladas, which flows into a conversation about Mitch.
Guest:And it's important to note that Felicia is bringing up who she was married to here and the name Dave.
Guest:If you didn't listen to the episode, that is Dave Becky, who is also Mark's former manager.
Guest:A lot of connections there, but I think this will make sense for you now that they've been explained.
Guest:I'm trying to think who else.
Guest:Los Enchiladas it was called.
Guest:Los Enchiladas.
Marc:Brian Mallow.
Guest:Brian Mallow.
Marc:Was his buddy from wherever.
Marc:I used to know Brian in San Francisco.
Marc:Then I don't remember who the co-star was.
Marc:Atel.
Marc:Todd Berry.
Marc:Wasn't Todd in it?
Guest:Todd Berry was in it.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:A bunch of people.
Marc:Atel played the hotel manager or something?
Marc:What?
Guest:Yes.
Guest:The manager of the Mexican food restaurant in Minnesota.
Yeah.
Marc:And that was the menu writer.
Marc:And then he casted some local guy to be the chef.
Guest:That's right.
Marc:I remember I was the last shot of the movie.
Marc:I think me and the chef wandering off into the sunset.
Guest:You know, there was a young guy that was a PA on that movie.
Guest:And then he got into comedy later and he started doing well, but he passed.
Guest:He had cancer.
Guest:But Andy was his name.
Guest:Nice man.
Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:It was a fun time.
Marc:Yeah, but I mean, didn't you, like, you wrote it out, like, with Jana during the whole kind of breakup and all that other shit, right?
Guest:Oh, yeah.
Marc:I mean, you guys were buddies and there was just all this trouble.
Marc:Like, oh, man.
Marc:You know, I did one of my last drug runs was with him and her in fucking Seattle.
Marc:Like, those two, that Seattle festival and then the Chicago festival of, like, whatever it was, 99.
Guest:With Jana or Lynn?
Guest:Lynn.
Guest:With Lynn.
Guest:Yeah, not with Jana, yeah.
Marc:No, Jano couldn't hold on to that fucking insanity.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:And like, it was fucking... It was pretty brutal.
Marc:It's hardcore, dude.
Guest:It was so... Yeah, and the fact that Dave was his manager, there was a lot, you know... Oh, yeah.
Guest:Dave got a lot of shit, my ex-husband, because people really blamed him for Mitch's passing and drug abuse.
Guest:And it's like, no, you...
Marc:You can't stop a guy.
Guest:You can't stop a guy.
Guest:Not like that.
Guest:Well, you shouldn't have worked with him.
Guest:And then everyone else that doesn't give a shit.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know, he was constantly trying to get into rehab.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know, like, it was, you know, like, that part I don't understand when people pile on like that.
Marc:Well, it just got, sadly, to the point with him where, like, I remember seeing him once at the improv, you know, I think when he was hiding his gangrenous limb.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:You know, I just looked at him.
Marc:I'm like, you know, he's gone.
Marc:It's over.
Marc:I mean, like you pass a point of no return with that shit.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:I just saw it in his eyes where it's like, you know, that weird fallow.
Marc:The skin changes and the eyes shift.
Marc:It's terrible.
Guest:It was a terrible thing.
Guest:And, you know, there was a lot of stuff with Mitch.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I always think that Mitch was on the spectrum.
Guest:That's why I couldn't give eye contact would be my guess.
Guest:I have a brother who's autistic.
Guest:And to me, he was on the spectrum.
Marc:He certainly behaved like that.
Guest:He had a hard time looking at people and talking.
Marc:And the simplicity of his vision, too.
Marc:He simplified everything.
Marc:I mean, it's one of the rare...
Guest:sort of comics that is sort of timeless like you can always discover it's like a children's book yeah like some children's books get read forever there's always going to be generations of people of all ages that can come to that Mitch shit it's kind of insane he is uh to me a miraculous was a miraculous comedian I remember when he died the next morning I went to go there was people staying at our house and I went to go to Starbucks make a Starbucks run
Guest:And you know how they always have like a chalkboard that they used to put inspirational quotes?
Guest:And I remember they were wiping off an Oscar Wilde quote and putting a Hedberg joke.
Guest:And I thought to myself, fuck, that's crazy.
Guest:You know, just like these are the people I'm walking amongst.
Guest:And it was a very sad situation, you know?
Marc:You have a lot of good pictures of Mitch.
Guest:I have an excellent picture of Mitch because I made a short film that Mitch was in.
Guest:And I just did some, you know, did some snaps on them.
Guest:I'll give you one.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I just gave one to Johnny Buss.
Guest:Oh, yeah?
Guest:At the Ice House.
Guest:Yeah, because he's a big Hedberg fan.
Guest:Okay, that was episode 1444 with Felicia Michaels.
Guest:And we have another thing from that coming up.
Guest:And now these are all Mark things here.
Guest:And if you've been listening to these producer cuts in recent installments, I've told you a lot of times when I'm looking for material to cut.
Guest:The first thing that goes is something that's too long in Mark's monologue.
Guest:Like, if I'm just looking straight up for time, the interview is good, I'm not going to cut the interview down too much, I will look to Mark's monologue and tell him, hey, this part is coming out.
Guest:Then maybe he'll do it again another time, maybe he won't.
Guest:And in cases like this, he didn't, and only you are going to hear it.
Guest:This was on the Felicia Michaels episode, who's speaking about being at the Comedy Store and something that happened with Whitney Cummings.
Marc:Whitney Cummings gave me my $100 back.
Marc:I'm saying that like you're part of this narrative.
Marc:Whitney, who I love, can be a little kooky.
Marc:But like months ago, we were in the kitchen at the comedy store, maybe eating cookies.
Marc:And she's like, do you have any cash?
Marc:I'm like, I do.
Marc:She's like, I need some cash to tip the parking lot guys.
Marc:And I'm like, what do you want?
Marc:Like five?
Marc:She's like, do you have a hundy?
Marc:Do you have a hundred?
Marc:And I did.
Marc:I had a hundred dollar bill.
Marc:Now, I don't know...
Marc:If she was actually tipping the parking guys that much, because I certainly don't.
Marc:I tip them like five dollars.
Marc:But like if she wants to tip them 100, good for them.
Marc:But I think that's a little much.
Marc:But, you know, if you're stinking rich and you want to throw hundreds around, do it.
Marc:But I just gave her 100.
Marc:And it's not like I necessarily care about the 100.
Marc:And she actually left a fairly valuable piece of pottery at my house that, you know,
Marc:I don't know if she listens to this part of the podcast.
Marc:I know she listens kind of I think she listens.
Marc:But but there was part of me that was sort of like, all right, well, that that pottery that she left here that she brought me figs in is probably worth a few bucks.
Marc:So fuck the hundred.
Marc:But then I started thinking about it like, you know,
Marc:Um, it was a hundred bucks.
Marc:And was she just fucking with me?
Marc:Did she just want to see if she could just, you know, get a hundred dollars from me without, you know, much effort?
Marc:So I brought her up on stage last night and, and I said, uh, I asked her from the mic cause I didn't know if she was in the back of the room.
Marc:I said, do you hear?
Marc:And she's like, yep.
Marc:And I said, are you ready?
Marc:And she goes, are you ready?
Marc:And I'm like, I'm always ready for you.
Marc:And then she laughed.
Marc:And I said, can I bring something up here in front of everybody on stage?
Marc:Remember, like, a few months ago, you know, you said, can I have $100 to tip the lock guys?
Marc:And I gave you a $100 bill.
Marc:She goes, yes.
Marc:And I said, where's that at?
Marc:And she paid me back.
Marc:She walked up on stage and pulled $100 out of her wallet and gave it to me.
Marc:So we're even, but I still got that nice piece of old pottery, which she'll probably ask for back, but that's fine.
Marc:All right?
Marc:I'm not worried about it.
Marc:I was a little worried about the 100, and I got that sweet, sweet relief when she gave it back to me.
Guest:All right, a few more things to play from Mark Monologues.
Guest:And this was from episode 1446 with Tom Dreesen.
Guest:And this is one, it wasn't just cut for time.
Guest:It was cut for what I would say familiarity.
Guest:And what I mean by that is I think most of you, if not all of you listening to this, are very familiar with Mark.
Guest:You're very familiar with his temperaments.
Guest:You're very familiar with basically how he presents himself in the world.
Guest:I listened to this while I was in the context of his monologue.
Guest:I did need to cut some things for time, and I think this was something that was probably best heard by his true fans, the people who really understand him, and not necessarily an audience at large.
Guest:This was a good chunk of time Mark spent talking about his computer problems and an issue with sending some food to his friend Sam.
Guest:damn lip sight.
Marc:I've just been kind of spiraling.
Marc:I'm in this ongoing weird dynamic with the guy who's supposed to repair my refrigerator that's gotten ridiculous and I don't even need it repaired really anymore.
Marc:I don't give a fuck.
Marc:You know when you get to that point where you try to fix something, especially older things.
Marc:I do this where I need things to be what they were.
Marc:Like I have this old fucking Mac computer over at my office which I've cleaned out and I'm now going to re-engage with because I like sitting over there.
Marc:I have an office space
Marc:over near my old neighborhood.
Marc:And it just became cluttered and stacked and dusty and just depressing.
Marc:And it was like it slowly become an old, an overpriced storage unit because I used to use it a bit when I was at the old house because I didn't have room in that house.
Marc:But I don't go over there much anymore.
Marc:But I decided, well, decide what you're going to do with that, man.
Marc:So I cleaned it all out.
Marc:And it's quite peaceful and beautiful.
Marc:And I don't know what kind of work I'm going to get done over there, but I do like sitting there.
Marc:But I have this old MacBook Pro from 2012, a MacBook Retina.
Marc:And it's like it's for the most part useless.
Marc:But I put it over there because I don't need to do much over there.
Marc:I just would like to have a computer.
Marc:And God knows I could bring the one I have over there if I wanted to have something to work on.
Marc:But I had it in my head that I wanted this computer like I still had the computer.
Marc:Why not just make it an office computer now five years later?
Marc:And it was already old when I brought it over there.
Marc:You know, I'm obsessed with getting it up to speed.
Marc:So I spent all this time kind of updating it and reconnecting it to everything.
Marc:And now the battery doesn't work.
Marc:So I ordered a fucking battery for a late 2012 MacBook Pro Retina.
Marc:And it's not an easy installation.
Marc:It's complex.
Marc:You got to take the back off.
Marc:I ordered this battery, comes with a kit, and I don't even know if I can pull it off.
Marc:And on top of that, I believe the operating system is relatively obsolete, but I've got it stuck in my fucking head that I'm going to fix this thing.
Marc:And this can't end anywhere good.
Marc:It's going to end with me getting aggravated, me not being able to get it to work.
Marc:And there's no reason, you know, the best that could happen is I get it all up to speed and then I erase its brain and give it to charity.
Marc:Which is probably what's going to happen if I succeed at putting the battery in.
Marc:But maybe I'll use it.
Marc:But it doesn't matter.
Marc:I don't even need the fucking thing.
Marc:I can do it on my phone.
Marc:But I've locked into this idea that I'm going to make this machine correct again.
Marc:And I'm going to do it by myself.
Marc:And the same thing with this fridge.
Marc:I mean, I've got this guy coming over.
Marc:I just wanted a simple repair.
Marc:Now it's turned into like a month's long adventure, you know, with a guy coming over.
Marc:It's always these Ukrainian guys, which is interesting.
Marc:This guy, Alex, and he's like, you know, trying everything to get an ice maker to work.
Marc:No ice makers work in refrigerators of any kind after a certain point.
Marc:I don't need it, but I got it into my head.
Marc:It's like, do I replace this expensive refrigerator or do I get it up to speed now?
Marc:So it works properly and I'm obsessed with it.
Marc:Now it's gotten ridiculous and I feel ridiculous.
Marc:Because I'm hiding something from myself.
Marc:I need to get more work done.
Marc:I need some new jokes.
Marc:I need some new creativity.
Marc:So I get locked into these weird fucking projects.
Marc:And I'm once removed from the fridge guy project because I got to get the fridge guy to come and he's tried a million things.
Marc:Who knows?
Marc:So now it might never work.
Marc:And maybe if it works, great.
Marc:I got ice I barely use.
Marc:What's the point?
Marc:It's some sort of weird craving for order.
Marc:And then I like I just I order a bunch of things off of Amazon that I think is going to do a little fix of things.
Marc:Fifty percent of the time, the wrong thing comes because I didn't pay attention.
Marc:So then I've got things I'll never use.
Marc:Gaskets, brackets, certain types of bulbs.
Marc:It's this trial and error thing with ordering stuff for self-driven projects off of Amazon.
Marc:And it's sort of ridiculous.
Marc:And then the other night, I'm just ashamed of it all.
Marc:I just need to get to this place where I can express myself because I'm on edge and I'm locking into ridiculous things to try and get some sense of satisfaction where it's only going to come with taking creative risks.
Marc:That's the nature of it.
Marc:Like I got the other day, it was Sam Lipsight's birthday yesterday.
Marc:My best friend, Sam, got a couple of best friends, three, two, probably active.
Marc:But like, I just put off, I didn't know if I was going to get him anything.
Marc:And I didn't, you know, you know, I didn't, I don't, yeah, I'm not a gift giving family guy.
Marc:I don't come from a gift giving family, so I forget to do it.
Marc:But then at the last minute, I'm like, fuck it, man.
Marc:I'm going to get him some Russ and Daughters from Russ and Daughters in New York, get him some Jew food, some herring and some chicken soup and some lox, bagels, whatnot, and just have him, you know, sent up to his house for his birthday.
Yeah.
Marc:So I'm kind of spinning about it.
Marc:I'm like, I don't know how to, I don't know what to do.
Marc:Like I'm an idiot.
Marc:But more, I think on a deeper level, I'm like, hey, wait a minute.
Marc:I know a Russ from Russ and Daughters.
Marc:I know one of the daughters.
Marc:I know Nikki Russ.
Marc:You know, I know I've met her, Nikki Russ Fetterman.
Marc:She runs all the Russ and Daughters, which is a cafe.
Marc:There's two locations.
Marc:They're opening up new locations.
Marc:She's the boss.
Marc:She's not the mail order person.
Marc:She's not the delivery person.
Marc:And I'm just so out of my mind and without a sense of time that like the other night at 9, it was like 8 p.m., 7 p.m.
Marc:maybe here, 10 p.m.
Marc:in New York.
Marc:I know I've got Nikki's number.
Marc:I don't know her well.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I only know her to say like, hey, I'm going to be around.
Marc:Can I come by the cafe kind of thing?
Marc:You know, use a little, a minor connection.
Marc:For some reason, having sort of special treatment at places that have food is relatively important to me.
Marc:I think it's relatively important to many a certain type of older man.
Marc:You just want to be able to be like, is my table ready?
Marc:You know, I used to do a joke about my mom's boyfriend, John.
Marc:That's all he wants out of life is to walk in to a restaurant and have people go, there he is.
Marc:I guess I'm that guy.
Marc:But here I am in some sort of timeless zone because of my life texting Nikki Russ Fetterman, who is the owner of the place.
Marc:Like, hey, how do I get my friend Sam some food?
Marc:And then she very politely responds and says, just order a delivery through the website.
Marc:I'll make sure it's taken care of and we'll make it nice so it feels like a present.
Marc:I'm like, great.
Marc:Then I go on the website.
Marc:Now it's like eight or nine here.
Marc:And it's not letting me.
Marc:It's saying that his address is out of range.
Marc:And it's in the city.
Marc:So then, of course, I text her back late at night.
Marc:This is a person with a regular life who I don't really have a relationship.
Marc:It's inappropriate on some level for me to be pestering her.
Marc:And I'm like, I couldn't do it on the website.
Marc:What now?
Marc:You know, it's just ridiculous.
Marc:And then I'm just sort of like, fuck it, man.
Marc:Another time, you know, sorry to bother you.
Marc:I felt like an idiot when I kind of came out of my focus, my obsessive focus on getting my friends some goddamn bagels and lox.
Marc:And I just said, you know, fuck it.
Marc:And then the next day I tried again and it's not letting me, it's saying it's out of range.
Marc:And I'm like, what does this mean?
Marc:Is the website fucked up?
Marc:I couldn't stop myself.
Marc:I texted her again.
Marc:I'm like, I tried again.
Marc:I don't know if the website's fucked up, says it's out of range.
Marc:And then I realized, like, and then I'm constantly apologizing.
Marc:I'm sorry to bother you.
Marc:And I'm like, what is wrong with me?
Marc:I just think, is there someone else I should get in touch with?
Marc:Like, this is a big goddamn problem.
Marc:I'm not stuck in a submarine next to the Titanic having a hard time breathing.
Marc:This is not a major crisis.
Marc:But I want Sam to have bagels.
Marc:So finally, I'm like, oh, they have gift cards.
Marc:Fuck it.
Marc:So I said, never mind.
Marc:I got a gift card.
Marc:Sorry for bothering you over and over again.
Marc:And all I'm thinking is like, she's like, I'm going to have to block this guy.
Marc:Why did I give my number to this lunatic Marc Maron?
Marc:Because he likes the food here and he's got a bit of a platform and he's a nice guy.
Marc:I've always spoken highly of the food there.
Marc:I love it.
Marc:And she's always been nice.
Marc:But now I'm thinking like she's thinking I'm crazy.
Marc:And I got him a gift card, which is great.
Marc:And then finally she got back to me.
Marc:Sorry, I'm busy opening a new store, setting it up for a big event.
Marc:I apologize.
Marc:I didn't get back to you.
Marc:And like just the life of the mind, man.
Marc:Here I'm thinking she's showing her phone to other people.
Marc:Like this guy won't stop bothering me for his.
Marc:It's like, no, I barely know him.
Marc:He has a podcast and it's just 10 at night.
Marc:He texted about his friend Sam's bagels.
Marc:Nope.
Marc:She was very nice, cordial, and...
Marc:And I, you know, and I just felt like an idiot.
Marc:So that's, that's where I'm at.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:The next is from episode 1448 with Clifton Collins Jr.
Guest:This was in Mark's monologue and it was a little more of what he's been talking about recently about kind of going through a creative struggle.
Guest:And in this case, he talks about feeling disrespected by, um, a peer, let's just say a peer.
Guest:And I thought to cut this out mostly because, um,
Guest:i feel like it was going to start trouble where trouble was not needed and what i mean by that is when thousands upon thousands of people hear this and then decide they want to try to play detective and figure out who it is mark's talking about uh sometimes that can push buttons and i could see a future in which mark's buttons were pushed enough
Guest:that he found it necessary to say exactly who he was talking about.
Guest:And I don't think that's necessary.
Guest:I think as you'll hear from this story, it's best left between them, but you can hear the story and judge for yourself.
Marc:I was discussing with you being up against it the last time I was talking to you creatively, and now it's time to, it's starting to happen.
Marc:I did the comedy store last night, doing some new bits, pushing the envelope a little bit.
Marc:taking the chances that make me feel alive and good.
Marc:But if they don't work, uh, I, I feel a little, a little, I feel like I've, I've some, I feel a little fragile about it, but, uh, you know, it goes away, it goes away quicker than it used to.
Marc:The slight pain of failure, the slight, the tinge, the slight, like a little, a little like, Ooh, that didn't, uh, uh,
Marc:I don't sit with it as long, but I do find that I sit with resentments not as long as I used to.
Marc:But you want to know the worst thing, and I'm sure you guys know this.
Marc:You know when you feel sort of disrespected somehow in a moment by somebody that you know or somebody you might not get along with or whatever, but there's a moment where you're just sort of like, wow, did that just happen?
Marc:Well, that person can go fuck themselves.
Marc:And then...
Marc:you spend a week kind of mildly obsessed about it, maybe scripting in your mind or running through your mind, like how you're going to kind of get them back, how, you know, how, how it's all going to come together, how, you know, just devise the perfect thing to say that'll just stick them back and, you know, maybe not get unstuck too soon and just sort of like kind of run it through your head, that weird satisfaction of following through with some petty kind of,
Marc:hostile comment, you know, because you feel disrespected or you feel like condescended to.
Marc:And, you know, that happened.
Marc:I don't want to go into details because it doesn't really matter.
Marc:But I spent a good week in my brain kind of masticating, mentally masticating what I was going to throw back at this person, kind of not cavalierly, but like kind of like as an aside and
Marc:You know, something well, some well-rehearsed hurtful bit of business that I was going to just drop on them.
Marc:And then the next time I saw this person, they approached me like nothing had happened.
Marc:Now, in my mind, like, did I make a big thing out of nothing?
Marc:Probably.
Marc:Does that mean I didn't feel the way I feel?
Marc:No.
Marc:Does it mean that, you know, they just really didn't notice that they'd done it at all?
Marc:Again, it's possible.
Marc:But the other way to go is like, did they know and now they're overcompensating?
Marc:So like the grownup thing to do and the sober thing to do
Marc:would be to let it all go.
Marc:And I did that.
Marc:I let it all go, but not without talking shit.
Marc:I talked a little shit and that was satisfying.
Marc:But then when, you know, I saw the person and nothing was there, I was like, oh, shit.
Marc:Well, now I talked a little shit.
Marc:But then ultimately, I just look like the asshole.
Marc:And I oddly, I look like the asshole twice because, you know, when I felt disrespected the first time, I kind of threw a little hissy fit and to just one or two people.
Marc:And it was appropriate.
Marc:But then like, so now I'm not in a cover my track situation, but Jesus Christ, man, when does that shit stop?
Marc:I imagine if you are locked into a life where you don't see many people or you only work with a few people, you know, the risk of doing that is greater of sort of lashing out or talking shit.
Marc:But man, I, what am I in high school?
Marc:Jesus Christ, man.
Marc:I let it go.
Marc:It's gone.
Marc:I let it go.
Marc:But it is it is stored and it's stored in a specific box with that person's name on it.
Marc:I'll just say that.
Marc:I feel no hostility, no resentment.
Marc:I've let it go.
Marc:But I did.
Marc:I cataloged it.
Marc:It's you know, it's there.
Marc:It's in the toolbox.
Guest:OK.
Guest:Okay, got a couple more here for you.
Guest:This one's from episode 1450 with Joanna Gleason.
Guest:This aired just after the 4th of July.
Guest:Mark was telling a story about going to a 4th of July cookout, and there was an issue with his vegan chili.
Guest:I'll let him explain it to you.
Guest:This was cut only for time.
Marc:So I did go to my buddy Dan's at...
Marc:My buddy Dan from Gimme Gimme Records, I went to his house because usually we do the 4th of July there.
Marc:So me and Kit went over there and I made the chili again that some of you remember I made for his wife's birthday not long ago, a few weeks ago.
Marc:And there was sort of, again, a question of etiquette because I mentioned that I took the chili home, whatever was left.
Marc:This chili is fucking amazing.
Marc:I'm not even sure why.
Marc:I made vegan chili and vegan cornbread.
Marc:And I brought both of them again, but there wasn't that many people at this party, and a lot of people, Jen made a big pulled pork thing, but two other people brought cornbread.
Marc:So right out of the gate, I was like, fuck, man.
Marc:Like, my cornbread's not on the main table.
Marc:It's over here because it's in a big tray over here by the chili, which is on the stove.
Marc:It's not in the main table.
Marc:So I immediately started to panic that, you know, people weren't going to eat my cornbread.
Marc:And I started to be concerned about the chili.
Marc:And I realized, like...
Marc:Every time I bring food to a place in my mind, most of what's supposed to happen at that party should rightfully so revolve around whatever food I brought.
Marc:And I know enough to know that that's ridiculous and it's weird and it's self-centered and it's a little dumb.
Marc:You don't want to be hovering over your food and be like, did you have some chili?
Marc:But there is part of me that thinks like this party is basically a showcase for whatever I cooked.
Marc:And I don't think the cornbread came out that good this time.
Marc:But I didn't say that.
Marc:And there was a lot of cornbread left over.
Marc:But this time, some of you will be happy to know, I only took a little bit of the chili back home with me.
Marc:And I gave Dan and Jen...
Marc:Plenty of chili and plenty of the cornbread.
Marc:I don't even know if it turned out that good when I left, but I still have some for myself.
Marc:Is that okay?
Marc:Is that going to be okay?
Marc:But it was pretty spectacular.
Marc:They live up in the hills of Highland Park, so you sort of have this view...
Marc:of the entire expanse of that area of LA.
Marc:And it is firework crazy.
Marc:These are all just driveway fireworks, backyard fireworks.
Marc:But man, I used to do a bit about this.
Marc:It's primarily a Latino neighborhood and they get the fireworks, man.
Marc:And I don't think that I've said it before, but this year it was like above and beyond.
Marc:It was crazy.
Marc:with the fireworks.
Marc:And it was fun.
Marc:It was nice.
Marc:It was nice.
Guest:And the last thing here was cut from our most recent episode, episode 1451 with Lucas Nelson, which just went up yesterday, Monday.
Guest:And what's going on here is something that's been happening since Mark and I started working together.
Guest:Sometimes he will get an email or a comment on social media or any kind of one-person opinion, and he will project that onto all of his listeners.
Guest:And I get the impulse, but sometimes it really just winds up being him talking to one person who had one opinion.
Guest:And I felt like this was one of those times.
Guest:I don't think it was something that needed to be addressed to the full audience.
Guest:But for you full Marin listeners, if you would like to hear Mark personally responding to someone who sent him an email that he didn't agree with, this is for you.
Marc:I do hear from some of you and sometimes I read them and sometimes they're okay.
Marc:Sometimes they're not so great.
Marc:You know, some I got an email about, you know, from somebody who was kind of this idea that I'm overreacting sometimes to to what I perceive as the fascist momentum that that is happening in this country.
Marc:Look, you guys, I don't know, you know, if you're out there with other people socializing, what kind of information you're taking in.
Marc:Everybody has their own menu.
Marc:of stuff they feed their brain every day, and usually it takes up a lot of brain and a lot of time, but it's specific, whether it's an algorithm's choice or it's your choice or you think it's your choice or you have no choice.
Marc:I hope that's not the case, but...
Marc:Look, you can rationalize what's happening in the world however you want to rationalize it in order to get by on a day-to-day basis.
Marc:Look, that is part of being human.
Marc:I think that's part of survival.
Marc:I don't think I'm rambling here, but I do think that, look, if you've got to tell yourself...
Marc:that it's not that bad in order to function, then go ahead.
Marc:You know, I'm choosing to go the other way.
Marc:Maybe it's just the way my brain works.
Marc:I'm choosing the like, wow, this is much worse than I thought it was going to be, even though my yard looks good.
Marc:You know, I can separate the micro from the macro, but I choose to sort of like try to assume not the worst, but at least be rational about what I perceive is happening and work from there.
Marc:But look, man, if you want to say like, hey, man, there's only a few of them or, you know, you know, weather changes, then that's fine.
Marc:That's fine.
Marc:And then maybe you'll be really surprised and I'll be less surprised if the worst happens.
Marc:Uh, and then all I can be, and I'm not one of those people.
Marc:My, my ideology is not, uh, is not, uh, see, I told you like, yeah, I knew, I knew it.
Marc:I'm not that guy.
Marc:Look, I I'm as a, you know, I'm, I'm excited with anticipation for the best and the worst.
Guest:Okay, that's it for another edition of Producer Cuts here on the Full Marin.
Guest:I will bring these to you whenever we have another batch of them.
Guest:And now that we have a full year of Full Marin content, you can go back and listen to all the Producer Cuts that we've released for you so far.
Guest:There will be more to come in the future, though.
Guest:I guarantee it.
Guest:Until then, this is Brendan.
Guest:Thanks for listening.
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