BONUS Producer Cuts - Doug Stanhope, Jennette McCurdy, and more from October
Guest:Hey, Full Marin listeners, it's Brendan, the producer of WTF, here for another round of Producer Cuts.
Guest:This is when I go through the things I had to cut out of the recent WTF episodes for whatever reason.
Guest:I'll tell you why, and then we'll play the bits.
Guest:These are all things from the month of October, and it's a good mix of stuff that was in Mark's monologues and then some kind of substantial sections of him talking to guests, particularly Doug Standhope.
Guest:But first, let's go to episode 1479 with Rob Halford.
Guest:And this was from Mark's monologue.
Guest:It was already going to be a long episode.
Guest:I was looking for places to cut.
Guest:And this is a kind of example, as you've heard on other producer cuts, of somewhat of a loosey-goosey monologue stretch where Mark is talking about a place he traveled to, this time when he was up in Washington State.
Guest:Felt like this was something that didn't have to stay in the show.
Guest:There was also...
Guest:There was a particular stretch of this where he's talking about Naomi Klein and makes a joke about stalking, and you will listen to this, and I'm sure we'll have no negative reaction to it.
Guest:I didn't have any negative reaction to it personally, but in the world we're in, I did not want us to get any kind of headline about Marc Maron jokes about stalking Naomi Klein.
Guest:It was not worth it for that, but I think...
Guest:All you Fulmarin listeners can hear this in the spirit in which it was intended, as well as Mark talking about Washington State.
Marc:I don't know what's wrong with my fucking brain, but how are you guys?
Marc:Are you guys all right?
Marc:I really don't know what's wrong with my brain.
Marc:So I'm coming up here and I'm staying at this nice hotel.
Marc:I've not been to Bellingham.
Marc:I thought I had been here before.
Marc:I feel like there was...
Marc:a gig up here many years ago that was attached to the Seattle original comedy underground run.
Marc:There was a one nighter in a, in a mall.
Marc:I think it was called the elephant in castle or something.
Marc:Meet me.
Marc:I don't know.
Marc:But I certainly did not know it's so beautiful.
Marc:It's this beautiful marina town.
Marc:I don't know if it's old, but it's a fishing town.
Marc:And it's on an inlet or a sound or something.
Marc:It's water.
Marc:There's water.
Marc:And I stayed at one of the nicer hotels there that had all these walks and runs and bicycles.
Marc:And all I could think of when I was leaving was, how can I just bring one bag for everything?
Marc:So how do I pack as economically as possible to just have the bare minimum of clothes and not – this is like I could have went on a nice hike.
Marc:I could have done a nice run, but I'm like, no, I'm not going to bring the sneakers.
Marc:I'm not going to bring the shorts.
Marc:I'm not going to bring the shirt because I'm not going to go to the gym.
Marc:But I didn't even think to research that I was going to be in one of the most beautiful places in the country, and I could have at least done a hike.
Marc:But no, I brought nothing.
Marc:I brought nothing, and I was so proud that I had one carry-on bag, like no second one, just one.
Marc:And then I was just sort of like, well, fuck.
Marc:So that just unfolded into a day of like, you fucking idiot.
Marc:Why don't you bring your goddamn shoes?
Marc:Couldn't bring the hiking shoes, couldn't bring the shorts.
Marc:You wear them constantly.
Marc:You're always doing that at home.
Marc:Why not do it in the beautiful mountains of fucking the Pacific Northwest, you idiot?
Marc:But I didn't.
Marc:So I took a drive on, I think it was called Chuckanuck, Chuckanuck, Chuckanuck, some drive.
Marc:And I rode along the sound or whatever it is.
Marc:I should look.
Marc:I can look at a map.
Marc:GPS wasn't working.
Marc:It literally was showing me as if I were in a submarine that the blue dot was well into the water for the whole time.
Marc:But it's lovely up here.
Marc:It's really one of my favorite parts of the country.
Marc:It really speaks to me.
Marc:That's why I have the fantasy of living in Vancouver on an island somewhere.
Marc:I need to live near Naomi Klein.
Marc:And I'm not saying that like a stalker.
Marc:But I know she's in Canada somewhere.
Marc:I know she lives in a beautiful place.
Marc:And I thought maybe not next door, but maybe a few miles away, just in case I need to get up to speed on what's really happening in the world.
Marc:I'm going to be that guy.
Marc:I'm going to be like, hey, you know, we...
Marc:We had a great chat.
Marc:I just thought I'd move down the street from you because I'm a little panicky and you seem to have a handle on things.
Marc:So would it be okay if I stopped by impulsively to pick your brain for a few minutes and have you comfort me with some sort of very incisive leftist cultural assessment so I can know what's really going on and what I'm up against?
Marc:Would that be weird?
Marc:Would it be weird?
Marc:If I moved five minutes away just so I could stand outside and go like, I need help understanding something.
Marc:Would that bother your family?
Marc:All right, maybe I've gone too far.
Marc:Maybe this idea is not on the level.
Marc:Man, I love it up here.
Marc:And I think it has something to do with the fact that when I was a little kid, my family lived in Alaska.
Marc:You know, I must have been in between age.
Marc:It was like 69.
Marc:So I was six, maybe seven, six and seven, maybe part of eight.
Marc:But it was this vibe up here, man.
Marc:It really has stuck with me.
Marc:Same with New Mexico, but very different.
Marc:But this one's deeper.
Marc:I feel very connected to these.
Marc:Are they old forests up here?
Marc:But just the heaviness, the big pine trees, the rocks, the weight of the sky.
Marc:God damn it.
Marc:I love it up here.
Guest:OK, again, that was from episode 1479.
Guest:The next one is the Doug Stanhope episode.
Guest:That was episode 1480.
Guest:And because this was Doug and a shorter interview with Louis Katz, these two person episodes, they're always kind of bulky.
Guest:In fact, I had to put most of the Louis Katz talk right here on the full Marin for you.
Guest:That meant that the Doug talk was going to be longer.
Guest:I was going to try to keep it more robust.
Guest:But what that means is that like these parts, which are kind of like unstructured, that's the stuff that can come out.
Guest:This stretch here was about 10 minutes of Mark and Doug talking about Doug's movie, The Road Dog.
Guest:And then just some like odds and ends where I was just kind of having a hard time getting back into.
Guest:into the conversation right like you have to cut the part about the movie out that seemed like something that could go but then how do you get back in and you'll hear you know there's a lot of kind of like stop and start of their thoughts and they don't stay on any one thing for very long so i was just kind of waiting for that moment in the meantime all this stuff hit the cutting room floor and now you can hear it and i think you know we have a lot of people who
Guest:are longtime WTF fans who love Doug Stanhope and figured this was a great thing for full Marin subscribers and extra really like 11 minutes of Mark and Doug.
Marc:I thought that the stuff that they got right was pretty, you know, most of it was pretty good.
Marc:I thought that the stuff with Greg Fitzsimmons as the hack that never left, it's a real guy.
Marc:And you know that guy.
Marc:I was a little disappointed that they didn't, you know, that they didn't give him a real bit on stage.
Guest:That bit was... He wanted to use his own hackneyed
Guest:bit.
Marc:That would have been the right call.
Guest:They steered him.
Guest:They were really...
Guest:were hot on that, like, where's the beef thing.
Marc:Yeah, I think that was a mistake.
Marc:But who the hell's going to notice?
Marc:It was a fucking mistake because, like, you know, a hack's a hack.
Marc:You don't have to accentuate it.
Marc:People are going to know.
Marc:There's a million things.
Marc:Like, I mean, yeah, Greg could have easily pulled up, you know, a joke that he's doing now.
Yeah.
Marc:he's got that coming that guy always sticks me on his show he's got one coming
Marc:That guy, he'll say things, and he's like, I wasn't trying to fuck with him.
Marc:I'm like, yes, you were.
Marc:You were trying to fuck with me.
Marc:No, he's a great comic, but that moment took me out of it.
Marc:It's like, because that's not a real thing.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And it bummed me out.
Marc:I'm trying to think what else.
Marc:I thought the church thing was good.
Marc:It made a point.
Marc:I don't know if it would have happened quite like that, but it was good.
Guest:I fought them, and I said, this should be like a...
Guest:Yeah, I'm doing a charity event.
Marc:Sure.
Guest:Because everyone has that story.
Guest:Or even the lunchtime college show.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And they go, no, this is a real thing.
Guest:They actually know people.
Marc:The church.
Guest:Yeah, that gig.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I've never heard of a church show.
Guest:So, yeah.
Marc:Yeah, and also they kind of crammed a lot of stuff together in those horrible stories about how comics are brought up in certain situations.
Marc:So the whole idea of the preacher talking about, let's say, a prayer for the family that died or whatever.
Marc:Now the comedy, I've heard stories like that that weren't quite that same.
Guest:Yeah, I had one where I did a benefit in Salt Lake City for—
Guest:And the owner of the club was this just giant Viking looking guy.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:And he got up and just burst into tears because his wife had multiple sclerosis or whatever the fucking thing was for.
Guest:And I knew this guy had played his club before and he was like a bookie, like a hard fucking dude.
Guest:And then he balls and they introduced me.
Marc:Oh my God.
Guest:Help me out, Doug.
Guest:Here's Doug.
Guest:What'd you do?
Guest:I don't know if I goofed on him or not.
Guest:I don't know because he was a scary guy even to me.
Guest:But I'm sure I goofed on the situation.
Guest:But as a guy that would book, once he found out the scam, this was, I guess, 60-seater.
Guest:And so if he did any benefit, he'd fill most of it at top dollar with the people from the, you know...
Guest:Cancer awareness, whatever.
Guest:So just their own people are going to sell out the place.
Guest:And he gives a portion to their charity of their own money.
Marc:Yeah, I know that racket.
Guest:Yeah, so I did so many benefits that year.
Marc:It's a scam, but I think those guys think they're doing something.
Guest:No, he definitely knew he was scamming people.
Marc:Oh, he did?
Guest:Yeah, he was that guy.
Marc:I got to speak.
Marc:I'm being honored at a grief organization.
Marc:Oh, yeah?
Marc:For the stuff in the special.
Marc:All right.
Marc:But it's heavy.
Marc:This is like a support system for grief, and they're going to honor me, and I got to go do something.
Marc:But I know what I'm going to do.
Marc:I mean, I know how to make sad people laugh.
Marc:I've gotten good at that.
Marc:People, they appreciate the help.
Marc:So what else in the movie didn't, well, I mean, you can't really talk shit about it.
Marc:Let me just think.
Marc:Well, the one thing I was happy about, they kind of, there was a rush in the sobriety section.
Marc:Talk shit.
Marc:Oh, yeah.
Marc:You know, there was, it wouldn't, you know, first of all, if you were drinking that much and shaking that much, you probably needed to go to the hospital.
Yeah.
Guest:to detox you know because you could have died see i don't i i there was times i had the shakes they cut one scene where like i wouldn't have the shakes when i'm drinking i would have the shakes when i woke up right and that first cigarette and the first cup of coffee all right now my nervous system is right i feel the effects from but you you don't drink and shake as you get drunk you've
Marc:Well, until you settle down, until you get what you need.
Marc:But, like, from what I understand, alcohol withdrawal is really the only one you can die from.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:But nonetheless, that thing all happened pretty quickly.
Marc:But I didn't mind it.
Marc:You know, that, you know, like, I think you played that pretty well.
Marc:It's like, I did it.
Guest:And we're going to do it.
Guest:I've never had, like, when I've...
Guest:quit for periods of time I've never really had any withdrawal symptoms whatsoever and I like and I've just had like lab work done for the first time as an adult and I am in good shape yes nothing terrified my liver's fine yeah everything's fine yeah no shit no high blood pressure no cholesterol no cholesterol was the only issue and my triglycerides were through the fucking roof like the doctor called me and said listen that's good right
Guest:No, the awful.
Marc:Oh, the triglyceride.
Guest:But then after, when I did the follow-up, he goes, okay, and don't forget to fast for eight hours before.
Guest:And I went, you never told me that the first time.
Marc:So you're full of pizza?
Guest:So I had no idea.
Guest:Like, I have no idea.
Marc:Yeah, yeah.
Guest:And so my follow-up, yeah, my triglycerides are a little bit high, but fine, and cholesterol is fine now.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So the only two things, colonoscopy.
Guest:did you get it yeah i got it yeah golden fucking asshole no problem really celebrate yeah that's great i mean it's great it's off-putting though like i kind of counted on i used to do bits about like i'll never go to a doctor unless i'm trying to get out of something yeah the only reason because i know if i ever went to a doctor for even a routine checkup they're gonna find something that i probably need to be hospitalized immediately yeah we gotta take that out
Guest:Yeah, that'll get me out of, oh, I got drunk and agreed to go to a fucking wine country with the in-laws.
Guest:But now I can't.
Guest:And I really expected something's going to be fucked up now.
Guest:That's good, man.
Guest:That's good.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Did you get COVID?
Marc:Yeah, a few times.
Marc:Yeah?
Marc:I might have it now.
Marc:Oh, fuck.
Marc:I'm going to go get a booster after this.
Marc:I don't know if it's going to save me.
Guest:Wow, skank fest.
Guest:You just feel like you must have.
Guest:I just did skank fest.
Marc:A bunch of unvaccinated animals running around everywhere.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Celebrating.
Guest:Yeah, I got it a couple times, and I didn't know.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:That's how bad I feel on a daily basis.
Marc:That's the thing.
Marc:These people who talk about long COVID, I'm like, I don't think I know.
Guest:I don't feel that great.
Guest:Yeah, I had to get that antigen test.
Guest:I was just killing time.
Guest:Have you done an antigen test?
Guest:I'm like, no.
Guest:And they go, oh, yeah, you definitely had COVID.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:All right.
Marc:Got through it.
Marc:That's wild, man.
Marc:But why'd you go to the doctor?
Marc:You decided you might want to live?
Guest:It's a weird story.
Guest:Just a kid that I knew growing up as a seven-year-old lived in the neighborhood.
Guest:uh, was a, is a doctor where I live, like in Tombstone.
Guest:No shit.
Guest:Down the road from where I live.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And so, uh, so I was going to see him anyway.
Guest:I thought it would be funnier to schedule it as an appointment.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I haven't seen you since I'm seven now.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Here we are.
Marc:Hold my balls.
Guest:Yeah, exactly.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah, that's why I did it.
Marc:So now we hang out.
Guest:Well, that's good.
Marc:That's a good friend to have.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:Yeah, especially if your coverage isn't great.
Marc:Yep.
Marc:Yeah, you got to have those friends as doctors.
Marc:I got a lot of lawyers, but I was lacking doctors on the road.
Marc:I'm kind of lacking doctor.
Marc:My dad was a doctor, but he's got dementia, so he's no help.
Guest:Oh, yeah.
Guest:How's that working out?
Guest:As much as I'm with you on the no kids, when someone my age still has parents that are alive, you're like, oh, fuck.
Guest:It's like having kids.
Marc:It's kind of, it's sad.
Marc:You know, my aunt, my mother's sister just passed away.
Marc:They're both in their 80s, but he's losing it.
Marc:I mean, he's still relatively, you know, old memories.
Marc:He knows who I am and all that stuff, but nothing's sticking that long.
Guest:Do you feel like a responsibility to take care of him?
Marc:Well, you know, his wife is still hanging in there.
Marc:And the way I see it is I basically said, look, I got money.
Marc:So when you need to put them somewhere, just tell me whether it's a box or a place.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:And we'll take care of it.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Can I buy my way out of this?
Guest:Exactly.
Marc:I worked really hard to be a man who can buy his way out of things.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Because she's like, why doesn't he come stay with you for a couple of weeks?
Marc:I'm like, that's not happening.
Marc:There's no way that's happening.
Marc:And I talked to the guys my age, a little younger, like, yeah, I had to change my dad's diaper today.
Marc:I'm like, I'm never going to do that.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I'm just not going to do it.
Guest:May it pass quickly.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I don't know.
Marc:I feel horrible for you.
Marc:Well, he's a narcissistic fuck, and they take a long time to die.
Marc:His ego is sort of tempered.
Marc:He used to be bipolar.
Marc:Now the depression's gone because I don't think he remembers.
Marc:So now he's just bored all the time.
Marc:But he's still got enough together to where if he knows he's going to talk to me or see me,
Marc:Like he juices up somehow.
Marc:Like, you know, he focuses when he gets really bad.
Guest:Would you consider having him as a guest on your own podcast?
Marc:Well, the problem is, well, I would definitely listen to that.
Marc:We've had him on in the past, but not not sick.
Marc:The problem is, is like, you know, it's not as entertaining as you'd want it to be because there's a lot of like, yeah, I guess so.
Marc:Oh, yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I kind of remember that.
Marc:You know, so it's not, you know, there's no delusionary talk or anything.
Marc:It's a little flat, you know.
Marc:But the funny thing is, is that I think over time.
Marc:Now I want to hear the stepfather on your podcast with the stories that go nowhere.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Well, that's a whole other thing.
Guest:Again, that's not a story.
Guest:No, it's not.
Yeah.
Marc:It was a different time.
Marc:That guy.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:That guy never shuts up.
Marc:I don't know if it'd be entertaining.
Marc:And I think I think oddly, you know, when you put civilians on microphones, they don't know how to do.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:They don't know how to be.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Or they either go way over or shut down like the singing frog.
Guest:Hello, my honey.
Marc:Hello, my baby.
Guest:But you bring him to the talent agent.
Marc:Exactly.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Ribbit.
Yeah.
Marc:But, you know, I don't know, man.
Marc:My dad, the funny thing is, is like I think over the years because I did comedy, he eventually has developed a fairly real fear of me somehow.
Marc:You know what I mean?
Marc:So he just wants me to like him.
Marc:And he doesn't really, you know, he's nervous around me, you know, as a person.
Marc:Because I did the show, she drove him out to Vegas when I was just there a couple weeks ago.
Marc:And he was sitting in the back, and the sound is not great back there.
Marc:And I forgot to do the, I got new material about him.
Marc:But he sat back there, and I got off stage.
Marc:He goes, oh, it's great.
Marc:I love it.
Marc:And I got this kid following me around with a camera who went to talk to my dad.
Marc:And apparently my dad goes, you know, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
Marc:He went down to my face.
Marc:He's like, not great.
Marc:It was not great tonight.
Guest:All right, great.
Guest:And the next thing we got up here is back to Mark's monologue.
Guest:This one from the very next episode, episode 1481 with Joan Baez.
Guest:And you'll notice a theme here of the kind of stuff that I cut out when I'm looking for time, when I'm looking for things to cut.
Guest:And it's mostly like local color, like when he's traveling somewhere.
Guest:I think here it was in Portland, Oregon.
Guest:He'll be talking about his trip.
Guest:He'll be talking about things around town.
Guest:And sometimes that's the first stuff to go.
Guest:Just because if I need space, I can cut that stuff.
Guest:It won't affect a larger narrative.
Guest:Oh, my God.
Marc:I went on this hike today.
Marc:I went up to Forest Park here in Portland, Oregon, two days in a row.
Marc:The first day I screwed up and I didn't do the whole loop because I got stuck in another loop.
Marc:And today I went back up there.
Marc:Beautiful.
Marc:There's just this constant mist of water and cloud that you feel like you're walking through in this old forest, this Pacific Northwest, huge trees.
Marc:It was very meditative, very deep, very dark.
Marc:And then I ate at this place.
Marc:Where did I eat?
Marc:Oh, I ate at this place for mentor twice.
Marc:I'll tell you, man, if you're vegan, this is the fucking city for you.
Marc:That's for sure.
Marc:And I go in there and the guy Aaron, Aaron Adams, he owns the place and he's the the king for mentor.
Marc:And it's just it's sort of a fermenting based vegan restaurant that is fucking awesome.
Marc:And there is nothing but great food up here.
Marc:I went to another place.
Marc:I think it's called Harlow.
Marc:But it was good.
Marc:It was heavy.
Marc:It was vegan, but it was too much.
Marc:And I didn't feel the heart and soul of the place.
Marc:But this place, Fermenter, like Aaron's in it.
Marc:And you just get one of these.
Marc:It's sort of the way you eat at home.
Marc:It's like a macro situation where you get a bowl if you want the bowl, which is what I get.
Marc:He makes his own tempeh, makes all his own krauts, the hot sauce.
Marc:He does kombucha.
Marc:He does the caffeine.
Marc:What is it?
Marc:kaffir i don't know it's the the sweeter uh kind of less boozy feeling drinks but you know he's got a kraut he's got a quinoa he's got in-house made tempeh greens beans it was it's just it it was great
Marc:Gave me a book, told me he'd school me on some fermenting if I wanted to do that.
Marc:And, you know, that's what I do.
Marc:And I went and saw my buddy Mike over at Chip John.
Marc:Hung out there for a couple hours.
Marc:Had some straight talk about boots, about seams, about stitches.
Marc:I don't really see myself as that guy, but, you know, when I get into it, I learn things.
Marc:And I'm somewhat happy I'm not a total vintage artist.
Marc:jean or clothing nerd.
Marc:These guys get hung up on stitches on a certain type of seam.
Marc:I mean, look, I believe it looks great, but even after I've been told why it's special, I'm not sure I could repeat it, but I did end up buying some pants.
Marc:I ended up getting a T-shirt, and I might go over there today.
Marc:They're having some in-house tattoo event with a Japanese tattoo artist.
Marc:I do not think I'll get a tattoo.
Marc:I will let you know if I get a tattoo, but I don't think it's going to happen.
Marc:I've come this far.
Marc:I've come to age 60 without a tattoo, so I think I can probably get through the rest of it without a tattoo.
Marc:I don't know what I would put on me.
Marc:I'm kind of beat up.
Marc:I got here.
Marc:Like, it's weird.
Marc:I don't know what to, it's, it's odd.
Marc:Like the day before I left for Portland, I was feeling a little under the weather.
Marc:I felt that kind of nag, like where you don't know, is this allergies?
Marc:Is it a cold?
Marc:And it kind of like, it kind of stuck with me.
Marc:It didn't kind of manifest in anything, but it's a little weird though.
Marc:Cause it's like, you do think like, well, what if it's COVID?
Marc:And then there's, you know, what if it is?
Marc:What do we even do now?
Marc:Is anyone clear on it?
Marc:Is it just sort of up to you?
Marc:What do you do?
Marc:Do you test?
Marc:Do you not test?
Marc:If you test, what does that imply?
Marc:Are we still canceling work?
Marc:It doesn't seem like it.
Marc:It just seems like there's no protocols.
Marc:There's no mandates.
Marc:So it's just sort of like, what do we do?
Marc:And I've gotten very weird with it in the sense that I don't have the COVID right now.
Marc:I don't think.
Marc:Because sometimes you test and it just... I find myself...
Marc:Here's the one holdover from it is that I will still wear a mask on an airplane, but usually only for takeoff.
Marc:And I don't know if it's an old habit, but it's based in a belief system, and I don't even know if it's true.
Marc:I'll get on a plane, and I'll put a mask on.
Marc:I won't wear it in the airport, but I'll get on a plane, I'll put a mask on, because usually I get on in one of the earlier groups, and you're just sitting there as 200 people walk by you.
Marc:And I have a hard time with just people's smells and breath anyways when they're close by.
Marc:Not in a disease way.
Marc:It's just sometimes it's too much information.
Marc:It kind of overloads my senses.
Marc:Even when I hike, I think I've mentioned this before.
Marc:If I'm hiking and people are walking by me, if I can smell the soap they used to shower with, it skeeves me out a little bit.
Marc:Is that weird?
Marc:I don't know.
Marc:But I, for some reason, believe that I should wear a mask before takeoff
Marc:And once they get up in the air and they turn on the air filtration system, I'm like, I'm good.
Marc:But the idea is then to, when you land, to put the mask back on when they turn that filtration system off.
Marc:Like somehow or another, that filtration system on a plane is just going to manage the germs of 200 or so potentially dubious lungs in a can.
Marc:Right.
Marc:um i don't know if it's if it does or it doesn't but it's something that i feel comfortable with and i do it but then i always forget to put it back on when i land and sometimes because usually i don't know if you've had this experience but when you fly i don't really talk to the person next to me i don't you know maybe i'll say hi but for some reason either like 10 minutes before you land or when the descent begins or actually when you get on the ground and
Marc:That's where the person next to you is sort of like, so what do you do?
Marc:I'm like, we're starting this now.
Marc:And then usually because I've forgotten to put my mask on in the middle of them talking, I'll go like, oh, shit.
Marc:And then I'll put the mask on, which is rude.
Marc:But the point is, I don't know what to do about it all.
Marc:I don't know what we're supposed to do.
Marc:I think we're basically supposed to, if you get COVID, you should probably isolate a bit for a few days and then go about your life.
Marc:It's unclear.
Marc:And again, I don't even know, to be honest with you, in terms of COVID, in terms of long COVID, I'm not even sure I wouldn't know if I have long COVID.
Marc:I never, ever feel great.
Marc:But despite all that, I'm okay.
Marc:Everything's fine.
Marc:It's going to be all right, right?
Guest:All right, let's go to episode 1482 with Jeanette McCurdy.
Guest:And this is a good process example here.
Guest:This is a good example of what Mark sometimes needs to do to get a guest to a place where he wants them to be.
Guest:And I'll explain what that means.
Guest:Like, you know, if you listen to that episode with Jeanette McCurdy, you know that they had some very honest, very forthright conversations about eating disorders, body dysmorphia, generally childhood trauma and how it manifests later in life.
Guest:And this was a section where Mark, I think, felt the need to share a lot of his own experiences.
Guest:And that would hopefully bring Jeanette along and kind of like let her guard down and have a conversation in the same space.
Guest:You know, meet Mark where he is.
Guest:He does this a lot.
Guest:And sometimes it doesn't work.
Guest:And we just like hit a dead end and he moves on.
Guest:He doesn't try to go anywhere else with it.
Guest:And what you'll hear is Mark kind of explaining his own history with eating disorders and, frankly, some of it's stuff he has said on the show before.
Guest:But here with Jeanette, it was largely just done to kind of show her that he felt comfortable sharing this stuff.
Guest:This was a safe place to talk about issues like this.
Guest:And the reason I really cut it is because, you know, for one thing, as I mentioned, you've heard some of this stuff before.
Guest:But also, as you'll notice...
Guest:she's really not contributing.
Guest:Like she's slowly testing the waters of how comfortable she feels with what he's talking about.
Guest:By the time you heard it on the actual episode, they were both all good.
Guest:Uh, but this is like the section where they kind of had to sync up.
Guest:Didn't exactly work in the episode itself, but now you get to hear it on the full Marin.
Marc:Uh, you know, it was not something that I really tried.
Marc:And my mother, uh,
Marc:She was more prone to laxatives and actively vomiting.
Marc:Still, I think.
Marc:But that's whatever it is.
Marc:It was very funny because in light of your book that my mother, who's old now, and we get along fine, but the fear of showing up at her house chunky
Marc:You know, it lasted into my 50s, you know.
Marc:But over COVID, she couldn't exercise as much, so she actually put on some weight.
Marc:And I was just sort of like, like, you know, what's she going to say now?
Marc:When I went to her house, I'm like, oh, I don't guess you could talk, can you?
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:I did not have that luxury as my mom was dying.
Marc:She looks good.
Guest:My mom just kept getting so thin from all the – Well, she was sick.
Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:Just like deeply thin.
Guest:But she loved it.
Guest:She loved how thin she was.
Guest:It was horrifying.
Marc:I love it too.
Marc:I love when I'm sick and I can't eat or when I'm dehydrated or when I have to get a colonic or something or a colonoscopy where I have to kind of do the stuff.
Marc:I'm like, this is great.
Marc:Oh, my God.
Marc:I love when I feel emaciated and weak.
Marc:What?
Marc:You know what I'm talking about.
Guest:Light as a feather.
Marc:Yeah, it's so good.
Marc:Sure.
Marc:And you just think, you know, you're like, I fucking feel great.
Marc:And people are like, are you okay?
Marc:Are you sick?
Marc:Like, if you look at me...
Marc:On that third season of GLOW, I'm skeletal.
Marc:And, like, I just—and this is so fucking—this is, like, so eating.
Marc:This is exactly—I didn't even remember this.
Marc:Like, so I knew going into the third season of GLOW—
Marc:That, like, you know, I just want to take off a few pounds so I don't have to freak out about craft services.
Marc:There's going to be food there all the time.
Marc:So I just want to take off a few going in so I won't be worried about it, you know, on set.
Marc:And then I just started, like, I locked into the calorie counting.
Marc:I was losing weight.
Marc:And then I, like, I got too skinny.
Marc:And I'm like, it feels good, though.
Marc:And then, like...
Marc:So I get on set, and I'm doing it on set.
Marc:I'm still in active eating disorder with craft services.
Marc:I'm just still eating carrots and stuff.
Marc:And if you look at me in that third season of Glow, it's almost like, where's the story where Sam has cancer?
Marc:Because clearly...
Marc:In this entire season, he's dying of something.
Marc:I mean, I can see it.
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Marc:And I don't think people registered it, but when I see stills of me and the girls on GLOW, I'm like, oh, my God, what did I do?
Guest:You don't think people noticed?
Guest:People weren't – didn't –
Marc:No, I mean, people still like the season, but my manager's wife is like, what was going on?
Marc:Right, right.
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marc:So some people noticed.
Marc:I imagine the people on set noticed.
Marc:And I'm sure they all did.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I mean, my costumes didn't fit.
Marc:I had to get smaller stuff.
Marc:But I just felt so good.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:My fingers are all bony.
Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marc:And when you're my age, you get drawn, you know, in your face.
Marc:But I was like, this is great.
Marc:I'm light, toned.
Guest:Light body, yeah.
Marc:All right, so the bulimia, so like I, the reason I said I never read an account of it like this is that.
Guest:And the last thing for this month's batch of producer cuts is from the October 30th episode with Dan Soder, episode 1483.
Guest:And this was just some additional context about Mark's
Guest:adventures with his refrigerator and ice maker.
Guest:It had kind of been documented for many weeks, and I was just looking for a place to cut.
Guest:This seemed superfluous, but it also seems like if you've been following the ice maker or refrigerator stories, maybe you want to hear everything.
Marc:And so here it is.
Marc:And here's the sad truth of it is that because of my anxiety and my sense of overwhelming, being overwhelmed all the time, you know, I'd locked into this ice maker.
Marc:Now, look, I can make my own ice.
Marc:I had trays.
Marc:I was doing that.
Marc:And I'm not even, I, to be honest with you, I don't even use that much ice, but I became obsessed with the idea that
Marc:I had this fancy fridge, though it was old and it just wasn't, you know, there was part of it wasn't working and I just needed everything to work.
Marc:I needed everything perfect.
Marc:I needed, I needed order to be restored.
Marc:I needed to see those cubes.
Marc:I needed to see those cubes.
Marc:And it just became a nightmare.
Marc:I had to put a valve downstairs on the line because Alex said the water pressure was too high.
Marc:So now these guys came over.
Marc:They pulled it out.
Marc:I made sure the valve was open.
Marc:We squirted some water.
Marc:I made sure the water pressure was right.
Marc:And to be honest with you, folks, I'll be honest with you.
Marc:Like I went into a mild, you know, a mild sort of panic because I like I got the new fridge.
Marc:It made about 12 cubes and then it just stopped making cubes.
Marc:I'm like, you got to be fucking kidding.
Marc:Was Alex right?
Marc:Is this a pressure problem?
Marc:Is the other one already fucking shot the new ice?
Marc:Is this fucked?
Marc:And I was triggered just opening the freezer.
Marc:I find it triggering.
Marc:Because of what it would cause, the aggravation.
Marc:But then I looked at the computer, one of the several, I guess, that are in this fridge, and went through the settings, and the ice had not been turned on, and I turned it on, and it's just steadily making beautiful little cubes.
Marc:Look, you know, if you can find some respite in this dying world,
Marc:And it happens to take the shape of just cubes.
Marc:And they're modern cubes.
Marc:They're not old-style cubes.
Marc:They're clean, and they're little triangle cubes.
Marc:They're special.
Marc:And I find myself opening the fridge just to look at the cubes.
Marc:And that's going to go on for as long as it goes on for.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:That'll do it for producer cuts this month.
Guest:And, uh, we'll be back next month.
Guest:I got a lot.
Guest:It's already in the hopper for the November producer cuts.
Guest:So, uh, next month, December, uh, we'll bring you those November cuts and, uh, look forward to that.
Guest:Also, we'll have more this week on the Friday show about Mark's interview with Albert Brooks, uh, Chris Lepresto and myself.
Guest:We'll, uh, go through the episodes and backstage behind the scenes details and
Guest:and also a real deep dive into Albert's filmography.
Guest:That's coming up this week on The Friday Show, so thanks for being here on The Full Marin.