BONUS Unauthorized Episode 64 - Road Trip with Eddie Pepitone

Episode 734078 • Released February 6, 2024 • Speakers not detected

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00:00:00Hey folks, it's Brendan.
00:00:08I just wanted to introduce what we're doing here today on The Full Marin.
00:00:12This is an episode that very few people have heard in the format you're about to hear it.
00:00:20Maybe if you were back with us all the
00:00:22way from the start of doing this.
00:00:25And you've stuck with us all that time.
00:00:26You've heard this episode in this form, but no one else has.
00:00:30And I'll explain what that means and why we're doing this.
00:00:33Just last week, Mark had Eddie Pepitone into the garage for a full WTF interview, which you will hear soon.
00:00:41Actually, let you know something here.
00:00:43We were going to air that this week.
00:00:45But we had to shift some scheduling things around and John Oliver is going to be airing this Thursday and the Eddie Pepitone will air later in the month.
00:00:53But this was still part of the schedule on the full Marin was to re-release this episode, episode 64, Road Trip with Eddie Pepitone, in the form that it was presented when we released it on April 15th, 2010.
00:01:08Here's the thing.
00:01:09We did not think a lot of people were ever going to listen to WTF.
00:01:13We didn't really have any sense of what it was going to become.
00:01:17We didn't really have any sense of what podcasts were going to be.
00:01:21And frankly, we thought it was a thing that, you know, a small group of people were enjoying and they would continue to be kind of insider fans of this show.
00:01:31And the Road Trip with Eddie Pepitone episode was one that I personally wanted the show to be like overall kind of fantastic.
00:01:40Field pieces, Mark traveling to places with guests.
00:01:45I really felt like I could stretch my legs production-wise in doing something like this.
00:01:50And what wound up happening was Mark and Eddie went on a weekend trip to Arizona doing some gigs and they visited Mark's brother.
00:01:58And it was overall a really fun episode to put together.
00:02:01And what I wound up doing was put a lot of...
00:02:05third-party content into this episode.
00:02:09That was totally naive and totally wrong.
00:02:11And it was very soon after this, maybe within the next year, that we realized any of the unlicensed music that we had in all WTF episodes had to go.
00:02:21And we went back and replaced all the files with shows that had our own original music, either bumpers that we had commissioned for us or some of the things that Mark plays on the show.
00:02:33So this version of the road trip with Eddie Pepitone is kind of like the unauthorized version, but it is exactly the type of show at that time, April 2020, that Mark and I thought, oh, this is the thing that we're going to be doing.
00:02:48This is the best version of the type of show that we can make.
00:02:53And it just so happens that about three episodes later,
00:02:57Mark had his interview with Robin Williams, which, frankly, changed the direction of the show forever.
00:03:04It really became primarily an interview show with one guest from that point on.
00:03:10But before this, it was a variety-based show.
00:03:13We had lots of different segments.
00:03:14And this episode, Road Trip with Eddie Pepitone, was much like the episode that we did where Mark was on a road trip in New Mexico and visited Zach Galifianakis, visited his friend Dean...
00:03:25that these were episodes we thought we would be doing much more of.
00:03:29So I hope you enjoy listening to this road trip with Eddie Pepitone.
00:03:33And if you are from Sesame Workshop or the estate of Frank Sinatra, I apologize.
00:03:40And if you insist, I will take this down again.
00:03:49Fuck the game!
00:03:49Fuck the game!
00:03:49Are we doing this?
00:03:51Really?
00:03:51Wait for it.
00:03:52Are we doing this?
00:03:53Wait for it.
00:03:55What the fuck?
00:03:57And it's also, eh, what the fuck?
00:03:59What's wrong with me?
00:04:00It's time for WTF.
00:04:02What the fuck?
00:04:07With Mark Maron.
00:04:11Hi, Eddie.
00:04:13What's going on?
00:04:14I think you can just put that in the back there.
00:04:17Yes, sir.
00:04:18You alright?
00:04:20I'm a little tired, but... Are you tired?
00:04:23No, I'm actually pretty good.
00:04:28What happened?
00:04:30I'm actually pretty good, but I usually have horrific insomnia.
00:04:35You know, where I wake up at about 5 a.m.?
00:04:41This time I got up at... Ooh, maybe reverse.
00:04:44I don't want to... 4.45.
00:04:45I had a dream about my cat.
00:04:48One of my cats, I have five, and I had a dream that one of my cats was just following me in this huge mall...
00:04:57where I was asked to tell everybody in the mall they have to close up their restaurant.
00:05:03And I was like, you're kidding me.
00:05:05And my beautiful little cat, Criswell, was with me.
00:05:07And it was a little bit of an abandonment dream.
00:05:10You know, it was an abandonment dream.
00:05:11How do I get to LAX?
00:05:15You want me to look at the directions?
00:05:15Left, left.
00:05:16No, I know where you're going.
00:05:17You sure?
00:05:18101 north to 405 south.
00:05:19Right.
00:05:20That's exactly what my direction said.
00:05:22Yeah, correct.
00:05:22So, all right, so... So I had this beautiful little cat, Criswell.
00:05:27And I think it's this abandonment dream because I was like a mothering... I was like, Criswell, don't get lost in this huge foreign mall.
00:05:36It was like this mall.
00:05:36Can we roll down this window?
00:05:38Ah, this huge farm wall.
00:05:42He was just with me, and I was carrying my cat.
00:05:44And you know cats, you don't take cats out.
00:05:46No, I know.
00:05:46You don't take them out.
00:05:47You don't walk them like a dog.
00:05:48No, no, no, it's ridiculous.
00:05:50I just let them out.
00:05:53But I just so didn't want to lose them.
00:05:55So what do you think that, you know what I mean?
00:05:57Like, I didn't want to lose my cat.
00:05:58Well, you could be like that lady.
00:06:00She's got two chihuahuas on her lap in the car next to her.
00:06:04If those aren't Siamese chihuahuas, she's got a problem.
00:06:08Two on her left.
00:06:09Oh, my God.
00:06:09What do you got in your ears?
00:06:11Oh, what do you think of this?
00:06:13I've been getting a lot of heat for this feather earring.
00:06:15I don't know, unless you're going to grow a mullet to match it.
00:06:18Oh, you see, you don't like it either.
00:06:20No, no, it's all right.
00:06:21Karen loves it, and I have taken some heavy-duty heat from, like... It's a dangling feather.
00:06:27I mean, not, but it's like a metal feather.
00:06:29A silver feather, not a real feather.
00:06:31And I have... Did she buy it for you?
00:06:35We both kind of bought it, but then when I started putting it on, the only way I would wear it is with the hat because it's so big.
00:06:42It's big and dangling.
00:06:45One girl said to me, oh, my God, it covers the entire part of your left head.
00:06:50Your left face is just so big.
00:06:54And, you know, I'm feeling like, fuck, man.
00:06:57Did I make a mistake with this earring?
00:06:59Well, the good thing about earrings is you just take it out.
00:07:04You just take it out.
00:07:06Is this a mistake?
00:07:07Because I'll take this thing out.
00:07:08No, what are you talking about?
00:07:10You don't have to worry about that.
00:07:12You should just let me.
00:07:13Do I get right here?
00:07:14Right here?
00:07:15Right here.
00:07:17You should just let me beat myself up for flying us out of LAX.
00:07:20I'm a fucking idiot.
00:07:24Burbank is like five minutes from here.
00:07:26It's right here.
00:07:27I know where it is.
00:07:28It's right by my house.
00:07:29And yet I saw this ticket sitting there.
00:07:32You know, I printed it out.
00:07:33I feel like I'm responsible, though.
00:07:35I feel like.
00:07:36All right.
00:07:38No, I feel like.
00:07:39I feel like why didn't I say anything?
00:07:41Want me to put the air on?
00:07:44I feel like, why didn't I say anything?
00:07:46And then I'm like, well, Mark.
00:07:47No, it's just stupid.
00:07:49I'm a guest.
00:07:50This is Mark's gig.
00:07:51You're not a guest, you're working.
00:07:53Well, I know, I know.
00:07:54But I don't know what the hell I was thinking.
00:07:56In my mind, I somehow said, like, maybe they'll have a direct one from Phoenix.
00:07:59But, of course, they do every five minutes.
00:08:01And then this morning, I was like, maybe.
00:08:02From Burbank, they do?
00:08:03Of course.
00:08:04And then I'm sitting there thinking this morning, maybe I can change it now.
00:08:07Like, you know, I'm about to get in the car.
00:08:09Ha, ha, ha, ha.
00:08:11Like, I didn't have enough time for the last three fucking weeks.
00:08:16Well, you have been busy, have you not?
00:08:17I'm always busy.
00:08:19I'm going out of my mind.
00:08:20Now I'm worried we're going to get to this place.
00:08:22We'll be fine.
00:08:23No, we're going to have a good time.
00:08:24But, you know, this guy, you know, he's paying us good money.
00:08:26It's his first big show.
00:08:27It's his big idea.
00:08:28This is his first big show?
00:08:29Well, it's his big idea.
00:08:30You know, he's going to start bringing alternative comedy in.
00:08:32He's got Jimmy Dore coming, Jimmy said.
00:08:34He wants to know how it is, I'm sure.
00:08:36Yeah, yeah.
00:08:36So, I mean, but I don't know what the situation is, but I do know that we're going to get there, and he's going to be like, yeah, I don't know what happened.
00:08:43You know, I publicized it the best I could.
00:08:45That's my anticipation.
00:08:49Who the hell knows?
00:08:50I just picked Eddie up, Eddie Pepitone.
00:08:52We're going to Tempe, Arizona.
00:08:54And by the way, folks, I am a little tired.
00:08:58I am not a morning person.
00:08:59I think you are, Mark.
00:09:00I don't know.
00:09:01Did you just put on your broadcaster voice?
00:09:03Before we have a casual conversation.
00:09:06No, no, no.
00:09:06By the way, people.
00:09:09Welcome to the show.
00:09:10Look at these poor saps on... Look at this traffic.
00:09:15405 South.
00:09:16Coming this way.
00:09:17I'm just glad it's not going the other way.
00:09:19Oh, right.
00:09:19We're not on the 405 yet.
00:09:21We're on 101.
00:09:21No, but these people are going to work, and we're going to fucking LAX, and then I've got to find that goddamn parking lot.
00:09:28Oh, man.
00:09:29You know what?
00:09:29I'm making a big deal out of nothing.
00:09:31We're going to have a good time.
00:09:32My brother's picking us up.
00:09:33We're going to have a car.
00:09:34It's not that it matters to you.
00:09:35I'm just lumping you in to all of my plans.
00:09:38If you would rather the owner of the club pick you up and take you directly to the hotel, you can do that.
00:09:43I don't know.
00:09:44What's your plan with your brother?
00:09:45Nothing.
00:09:46We're just going to go get a car.
00:09:47He's going to lend us a car.
00:09:49And we've got a radio show.
00:09:50Oh, shit.
00:09:51We've got to do radio in an hour from the airport.
00:09:53Are you serious?
00:09:54We've got to do a phoner.
00:09:55But you and I are going in to do radio at four.
00:09:59Okay, yeah.
00:10:00I brought a CD for that.
00:10:01Oh, you did?
00:10:02What do you mean you brought a CD?
00:10:03You're not going to talk and you're going to say, I know I'm here.
00:10:08But just, let's just play the thing from the CD.
00:10:10It's much better than anything I could do here.
00:10:13I think you should start tailgating this cop.
00:10:15Oh, good.
00:10:15He's leaving.
00:10:16It gets me so nervous when cops are either directly in front of me or particularly directly behind me.
00:10:23I feel like they're going to find out every fucking thing about, like, it has nothing to do with my driving.
00:10:27It's all about, like, what they're going to find out.
00:10:29So you think they're going to do a background check and find your psychological history?
00:10:34We know you don't have any drugs, Mr. Peppertone.
00:10:37And you were driving fine.
00:10:38But there's some things in your past that concern us.
00:10:40But why didn't you love anybody?
00:10:43Why haven't you?
00:10:43Like, he pulls me over and he's like, how come you use people?
00:10:47Really?
00:10:48You're a narcissist?
00:10:49You better write that down.
00:10:51Afraid of cops.
00:10:53Not because I'm doing anything wrong.
00:10:54But if they do a background check, they're going to take me to task for my entire psychological history.
00:10:59For how bad I've been to people on an emotional level.
00:11:02Totally.
00:11:03Totally.
00:11:04I'm serious that I really have that with cops.
00:11:07When they come to the window, because I was speeding, and I've recently gotten two speeding tickets driving from L.A.
00:11:14to San Francisco, which is fucked, you know?
00:11:16On the 5?
00:11:17On the 5.
00:11:18It's a long haul.
00:11:19On the 5.
00:11:20It's a longer haul on the coastal route, but it's prettier, and you can get nauseous.
00:11:25Yeah, the curves is unbelievable.
00:11:28Have you seen the sea elephants?
00:11:30Where are those seals?
00:11:32Where are they?
00:11:32That is amazing.
00:11:33You have not seen them?
00:11:34I have seen them.
00:11:35Where is it, though?
00:11:36It's outside of... They're called... Yeah.
00:11:38Elephant seals?
00:11:39The elephant seals, but they're right outside of San Simeon.
00:11:42Right by the Hearst Castle.
00:11:43That's where I've seen them.
00:11:44For two months a year, they sit there and they just fuck on the beach and they lay around and people stop and look at them.
00:11:50That's right.
00:11:51And they're just sitting there fucking.
00:11:52I didn't know they were sitting there fucking.
00:11:54When I saw them.
00:11:55We go to South.
00:11:57When I saw them, they just lay there and it's wild.
00:12:02I thought it was spectacular.
00:12:03Yeah, they're like two tons.
00:12:05On the beach, just hanging out, fucking.
00:12:08And there are kids watching it, so their parents have to explain that.
00:12:12I didn't know they were fucking.
00:12:13What do you think they're doing there?
00:12:14Well, I've seen them a couple of times.
00:12:18And yeah, they're beautiful.
00:12:20They're beautiful.
00:12:21So Eddie and I are going to Tempe, Arizona to do a show together.
00:12:24We have not worked together in this context.
00:12:26That's right.
00:12:27We have no idea what we're getting into.
00:12:30In terms of audience or anything else.
00:12:33Jim Earl told me, watch out for the blue hairs.
00:12:35Marin draws blue hairs.
00:12:37Now, did he do a show with you at a piano place or something?
00:12:41Somewhere?
00:12:43And he said there were a bunch of blue-haired ladies who loved you and hated him.
00:12:48Well, I mean, he's going to think they hate him no matter what, but that's besides the point.
00:12:52It wasn't relative to...
00:12:54to the experience he had with me.
00:12:56But no, the woman who booked that show has a mailing list, and they're older Jewish lefty type of people.
00:13:02Oh, lefties, huh?
00:13:04Yeah, I draw some old hippies.
00:13:05You know, this looks pretty good.
00:13:06And actually, you can use the carpool lane, which is nice.
00:13:10Because I got you in the car?
00:13:11That's right.
00:13:12So we're going to Tempe.
00:13:13We're doing two nights.
00:13:15We're going to see my brother.
00:13:16We're going to spend some time trying to get Eddie to enjoy life.
00:13:19Because a lot of people have been asking Eddie.
00:13:21They've been saying, why don't you have Eddie on for the whole show?
00:13:24And I say, have you ever tried to talk to Eddie?
00:13:27You know, what are you going to do?
00:13:29Are you going to race me on this?
00:13:31Oh, you prick.
00:13:32You won.
00:13:33You prick.
00:13:35Now, where do you stand on road rage?
00:13:38I don't care.
00:13:39Oh, okay.
00:13:39Are you good at letting it go?
00:13:40Like, I don't have it.
00:13:42You don't have it?
00:13:44What am I going to do?
00:13:46Because I get real macho.
00:13:47Like that guy.
00:13:48Now, folks, you didn't see this, but this guy just cut Mark off.
00:13:51Mark is entering the highway, and this guy would not let him enter.
00:13:55And he sped up and cut him off.
00:13:57And really, it was a little bit of a dangerous asshole move on the car.
00:14:00Yeah, because I was stuck without a lane.
00:14:02We're stuck without a lane.
00:14:03A man without a lane.
00:14:04Get to your left.
00:14:05A man without a lane.
00:14:06I'm going to have a lane in a minute.
00:14:08It's going to be to the left of the one that I have.
00:14:11But we're going to Tempe.
00:14:12This guy, we're doing the first of a series of what looks to be alternative, newer comic shows being put on by a guy who has a booker for a theater complex of some kind.
00:14:23My suspicion is we're going to get there, and he's going to think that because of WTF and because of my pictures and my resume, that the college kids are just going to flock.
00:14:34But the college kids should flock to both of us.
00:14:37Look, we can talk in hypotheticals all we want, but from experience...
00:14:42I'm no Dimitri Martin.
00:14:47Does he take a lot of heat, that kid, Dimitri Martin?
00:14:50What I'm anticipating as we get there, the guy says, look, I did everything I could with the publicity, and I don't know, we're going to move you to the small room.
00:14:58You don't mind playing in the coffee shop, do you?
00:15:03So we'll see what happens.
00:15:05That'll fuck me up big time, by the way.
00:15:07It will?
00:15:07Well, then prepare yourself.
00:15:09Oh, my God.
00:15:09What do you mean it'll fuck you up?
00:15:10What are you expecting?
00:15:11What, are you expecting Patton Oswalt fan?
00:15:15You know I can close, but you... You're much more consistent than me.
00:15:21Like, I have home run sets, and I also have... I don't know if that's true.
00:15:25I think that if we were to actually... If there were some rating system...
00:15:30That if we could... I don't know.
00:15:33A Zagat's Guide to Comedians?
00:15:35Well, a Zagat's Guide or some sort of, like, way to go online and say, you know, a Marc Maron consistency graph going back to, say, 2001.
00:15:45I would say... Well, you're very interesting because when you get on stage, you really...
00:15:49It is a relationship with you because when an audience is with you, you really can go.
00:15:56You can just go.
00:15:57You know, and you could go forever.
00:16:00Now, when an audience isn't with you, it's very interesting, as it is, I think, for any good comic.
00:16:07When an audience is not with them, then all kinds of stuff can rear its head, which is very interesting to watch.
00:16:15I'd like you to meet what my parents did to me.
00:16:18Exactly.
00:16:19Exactly.
00:16:19Exactly.
00:16:20This is what my parents did to me, and this is why I'm disappointed with you, but I'm more disappointed with me, thinking that you wouldn't be disappointed with me, and because I'm assuming all these things, someone's got to pay.
00:16:32Now, that's the thing with me, too.
00:16:35When I've gotten angry at an audience, I have realized it is the worst thing.
00:16:39Like, I have gotten viciously angry at some audience members, and...
00:16:46It has been a horrible thing where the rest of the audience turns on me.
00:16:50Sure, because you push it over the edge.
00:16:52You're like, look, he doesn't deserve that because you've got problems.
00:16:56Right.
00:16:56Well, it seems to me, Eddie, that we're going to have a very interesting time, and maybe I should tape some of the sets.
00:17:02You all right?
00:17:02Yeah, I'm good.
00:17:03That was a lot of work for you.
00:17:04I know you're tired.
00:17:04Well, I just got in the car.
00:17:06You want to drink some of my coffee?
00:17:07Did you drink coffee?
00:17:09Are you really going to drink?
00:17:10It's black.
00:17:11Can I have a little bit?
00:17:12Yeah, yeah.
00:17:12Do you know mine?
00:17:14I've gotten my shots.
00:17:15I've gotten my shots.
00:17:16I don't know if I have.
00:17:17It's you're the one at risk.
00:17:19Oh, man.
00:17:20Do you drink it black?
00:17:22I'm old enough to have lived through whatever might have happened 10 years ago, but I can't tell you.
00:17:27I can't vouch for the last two years.
00:17:29The last two years?
00:17:31All right.
00:17:31Enjoy the coffee.
00:17:40So, Eddie, we landed.
00:17:42We're here.
00:17:42We're waiting for my brother who, of course, you know, I've got a schedule here that he's got to pick us up, take us to his house.
00:17:50We can borrow his car so we can get around because that's the way I'm doing it.
00:17:54And also I can see him.
00:17:55But, of course, I call him.
00:17:56He's like, I can't.
00:17:57I just got a call from the school.
00:17:59My kid's sick.
00:17:59I got to pick him up.
00:18:00Then I'll pick you guys up.
00:18:02And pardon me, I'm selfish.
00:18:03I don't know if I'm selfish, but I'm thinking...
00:18:05Always with the kids.
00:18:08You know, I've got to be somewhere.
00:18:09Let me just walk people through what I went through on the plane there.
00:18:14We're on the plane.
00:18:15Eddie has his... Eckhart Tolle.
00:18:18Eddie's got his headset on.
00:18:19He's listening to Eckhart Tolle the whole way.
00:18:21Eckhart Tolle, I think.
00:18:22Isn't it Tolle?
00:18:23Tolle, yeah.
00:18:24That's what you do.
00:18:25You get on.
00:18:25I'm like, what, are you going to leave me here alone?
00:18:28You're like, I've got to listen to Eckhart Tolle.
00:18:30So you're there with your eyes closed, listening to Eckhart Tolle.
00:18:33Behind me, I'm hearing beeping sounds, like somebody left their phone on, like an out-of-range beep.
00:18:39But I'm not panicking.
00:18:40I'm like, it can't be a bomb.
00:18:41Probably the guy just left his phone on.
00:18:42Then about half hour into the flight, the guy starts chanting.
00:18:46But I can't figure out what it is.
00:18:48All I'm hearing is like, but he looks like a Latino guy.
00:18:54So then I stick my ear and I look over the seat and he gives me a crazy cockeyed look.
00:18:57Of course, any look's going to be cockeyed to me after I've established that they've been chanting.
00:19:04And I stick my ear up to the crack, and what he's saying is like, I'm a bad person.
00:19:07I need your help.
00:19:09I am very discouraged.
00:19:10I need your help.
00:19:11I want to be in your presence.
00:19:13I need your help.
00:19:13Now, picture this.
00:19:15I am completely in a peaceful state of mind listening to Eckhart Tolle talk about the fact that we don't need to be imprisoned.
00:19:23And Mark taps me on the shoulder and basically says to me, we are all going to die pretty soon.
00:19:29I didn't say that.
00:19:29I said the guy behind me is chanting.
00:19:31Right.
00:19:32But the subtext was, Eddie, I believe someone is emotionally unstable.
00:19:38There's a beeping thing.
00:19:39He's chanting.
00:19:40And I turned around, and sure enough, he was chanting.
00:19:43He was crying.
00:19:44And he was crying.
00:19:45And this gentleman was crying, a Latino guy in a Dodger cap.
00:19:49Now, look, the Dodgers got off to a slow start, but it's no reason to blow up the plane, you know?
00:19:55I mean, they did win a game against the Pirates.
00:19:57They're 1-2.
00:19:58But Mark...
00:19:59was thinking we're going to be the victim of a terrorist attack.
00:20:02And that's, you know, I'm trying to relax and be calm.
00:20:06And it wasn't the best thing to get woken up to.
00:20:09But it was like five minutes of like, you know, what are the odds that I'm going to be the guy that's in the seat in front of the guy?
00:20:14Am I going to make an issue of it?
00:20:15And I'm a little bit freaking out.
00:20:16But I started listening for keywords like Allah, Allah, keyword Allah, bad.
00:20:22Not bad in the sense that I have any problem with the Muslim religion.
00:20:26or Islam in general, but in the context, with the beeping, with the crying, an Allah would be bad.
00:20:32So I listened for a while longer, and then what happens, we're about 15 minutes out from Phoenix, and he takes a phone call on his phone, in flight.
00:20:39So this is a horrible transgression, according to the new rules of flying, but it comforted me.
00:20:44Because he said, I'm almost on the ground.
00:20:46I'll be there in 15 minutes.
00:20:47I can't hear you.
00:20:48I'm on the plane.
00:20:49Right.
00:20:49He obviously had a connection in Phoenix that he wanted to get to.
00:20:53So Mark and me then calmed down that we weren't going to go up into flames.
00:20:58And then he lost the phone call.
00:21:00And then he started doing the chanting again.
00:21:02And I heard keyword Jesus.
00:21:03And I felt better.
00:21:04Between the phone call and keyword Jesus, I felt better.
00:21:08And then you leaned into me and said, you know, maybe I should do more singing.
00:21:13Maybe I should do lounge singing.
00:21:16This is how you bounce back from the situation at hand.
00:21:19Well, I let terror fuel my comedy, and I'm thinking of doing a lounge act, but not a typical lounge act.
00:21:26Wait, what are you going to put on the tuxedo?
00:21:28You got a full orchestra?
00:21:29Maybe a full orchestra eventually, but at first just a couple of piece band.
00:21:35And I'm just singing kind of Sinatra-like, but the subject matter is about inner demons.
00:21:40You know, sort of like, I grew up in Brooklyn.
00:21:43My mother died alone.
00:21:45Was it my fault?
00:21:47I think so.
00:21:47I think it was.
00:21:49I never loved her enough.
00:21:50And kind of upbeat Sinatra style, but the subject matter is very, very... Keep going with it.
00:21:57Keep going with it.
00:21:57okay i am a person who has inner demons so so many hey do you have inner demons young lady are they as big as mine i don't think i love myself how about you how about
00:22:18I'm scared and frightened and alone, but the one thing I have is this microphone.
00:22:28The way that I deal with my mother's death is to overeat and watch pornography, watching strangers fuck and eating pudding.
00:22:37That's the way I deal with my mother's death.
00:22:41I like it.
00:22:54I think that somebody hit my brother's car while we were sleeping.
00:23:01It just makes me think the human race is not cool.
00:23:04I don't know, man.
00:23:05I just don't know if that dent was there on top of everything else.
00:23:08I know I didn't park that great, but I mean, it looks like it was done out of spite.
00:23:12It does look like it was done out of spite, you know?
00:23:14It's all... And, you know, I'm looking at birds, and right now, you know, we're looking at... There's some birds...
00:23:19And they're beautiful.
00:23:20Shut the window.
00:23:20I'll put the air on.
00:23:22We have a lot to talk about.
00:23:23All right.
00:23:23So we did the first show last night.
00:23:25There were two shows.
00:23:26I feel good about the crowds.
00:23:28I don't feel great about the crowd sizes, but they were there to see us.
00:23:31And this place was a multiplex cinema that they made into an art center, but they didn't really change it that much.
00:23:37How did you feel about it?
00:23:38Um, I loved it.
00:23:40I loved it.
00:23:41The first show was a decent-sized crowd.
00:23:44Second show, you know, small.
00:23:48But everybody was with us completely, you know?
00:23:53I felt like I attacked a guy in the second show who was alone, and I didn't need to do that.
00:24:00You felt bad?
00:24:01I felt bad.
00:24:03Oh, my God.
00:24:04What did we eat last night, Eddie?
00:24:05That was terrible.
00:24:08Are you thinking about that?
00:24:10How did that happen?
00:24:12Well, we only had a couple of minutes in between shows.
00:24:14Right.
00:24:15So we had to go to a place that was right next to the theater.
00:24:20And it wound up being Jack in the Box.
00:24:22Right.
00:24:23And I haven't eaten in Jack in the Box in years.
00:24:26I've seen the commercials.
00:24:27Not a fan of the guy with the ping pong ball head.
00:24:31Wound up getting what you were like, oh, I get the chicken club.
00:24:34So I get the chicken club and it is just covered in bacon and mayonnaise.
00:24:42What do you think a club sandwich is?
00:24:43I mean, that's how you... Is that right?
00:24:45Yeah, sure.
00:24:46I mean, you've been a liar.
00:24:47I don't know.
00:24:48I thought because it was chicken, it would be healthy.
00:24:51But I realized it was just, you know, a heart attack on a bun.
00:24:55How do you feel about it today?
00:24:56I had something called the sourdough beef shit fest I had.
00:25:00Was that what it was?
00:25:01It was just like boxes after boxes of options.
00:25:04I kept looking at it.
00:25:05I never eat a Jack in a Box.
00:25:06I was like, what is the best one?
00:25:08Do I get the number one with the goop and the beef or the number two with the goop and the chicken and the number three with the goop and the fried chicken and the bacon?
00:25:16What is the picture?
00:25:17You know, the pictures they have of the Jack in the Box things are like crime scene photos.
00:25:21You know, you just you just see the you see the the club sandwich after it has killed you or something.
00:25:28Which one's the culprit?
00:25:29Like a lineup?
00:25:30Yeah, it's like a lineup.
00:25:32Oh, that's the one.
00:25:33That's the one officer.
00:25:34That's the one I want to eat.
00:25:36And then after that, how about the reward?
00:25:38Then me and Mark had to reward ourselves.
00:25:40You know, we did the second show.
00:25:41We were tired.
00:25:42I signed some CDs.
00:25:43Thank you all, you WTFers that came out to the show last night.
00:25:46It was very nice to see you.
00:25:47I talked to the people.
00:25:48We had a little bonding.
00:25:50Some guy talked to us about his dreams to be a fiction writer.
00:25:52He's going to Columbia.
00:25:54We were very available, I think, for those people.
00:25:56As a matter of fact, I think we were a little too available because I remember that we started hassling the audience a little bit because we had to get our parking validated.
00:26:04And, again, it was the guy who wanted to be a writer, a very nice guy.
00:26:08And I started heckling his friend who couldn't do the parking validation machine.
00:26:14They're tough machines, you know.
00:26:16They got a little extra show.
00:26:17They got a little extra show, but I felt like afterwards they were like, all right, all right, enough.
00:26:22Thank you, guys.
00:26:23I felt like they were the... Yeah, we were bothering them.
00:26:26We were bothering the fans like, hey, hey, hey, where are you going, guys?
00:26:30Oh, we just got to go home.
00:26:32Can we go?
00:26:33Hey, I need to go to a coffee shop before anything.
00:26:38Oh, yeah.
00:26:39Please, Mark.
00:26:39You're in trouble?
00:26:41No, I mean, I haven't had coffee yet.
00:26:42But what do you want to do?
00:26:43You want to go to the McDonald's?
00:26:45Oh, well, let's go near your brother, wherever you want to go, but I need coffee before your brother's house.
00:26:50I want to drink some coffee.
00:26:51Okay, okay, we're going to get coffee.
00:26:54By the way, so you... I was up early.
00:26:56I made two waffles.
00:26:58I watched the CNN.
00:26:59You made waffles in your Clarion hotel room?
00:27:02No, no.
00:27:03Do you bring batter?
00:27:03They have free breakfast, and you can make your own waffles.
00:27:06They had eggs and bacon and the whole thing.
00:27:08What time were you up?
00:27:10I got up at like 8, 8.30.
00:27:11All right, so after the show, Eddie and I, it's 12.30.
00:27:14There's no reason for us to eat more other than that's what we do.
00:27:18So we had to have a discussion, and the discussion revolved around, do we deserve a reward for what we've done?
00:27:24Like, I don't do drugs.
00:27:25I don't drink.
00:27:26Same here.
00:27:26How is this going to work out?
00:27:28Because I know the best I can do is say, good show, and either go back to my room and masturbate without having eaten ice cream or with eating ice cream.
00:27:37So Eddie and I are like...
00:27:38We're almost out of the woods.
00:27:40We don't have to go eat ice cream because you said you're concerned about your health because you're old and you're not in good shape.
00:27:45I wish you wouldn't put it like that.
00:27:49I'm sorry.
00:27:49You were just concerned because you're... No, it's a slippery slope for me.
00:27:55As soon as I start eating badly again, I binge.
00:28:00I binge for a few days and then I have to go through the withdrawals again.
00:28:04The food addiction is a nasty one.
00:28:07I know I have it too, but apparently not as bad as you.
00:28:10I feel like there's a backhand shot.
00:28:14No, there's no backhand shot.
00:28:15I'll explain it.
00:28:16So we go to Circle K and we try to find out how to reward ourselves.
00:28:20So we walk in.
00:28:21I'm looking in the ice cream case.
00:28:22And then the guy at the Circle K goes, there's more in the back.
00:28:25And you go, literally, your face would up.
00:28:27And you go, pints?
00:28:29He said, pints?
00:28:30You know...
00:28:31Did you not do that?
00:28:32Yeah, I did.
00:28:33I did.
00:28:34And sure enough.
00:28:35We go look at the pints and you choose, and then you get a pint out of the freezer.
00:28:39Triple caramel chunk.
00:28:41Did you eat the whole thing?
00:28:42Oh, yeah.
00:28:43You were funny.
00:28:43Like, oh, I think you got a freezer.
00:28:45You could keep it in the freezer.
00:28:46And I was like, what are you kidding?
00:28:47And I even did the thing where I got more than one plastic spoon, because when you have a pint and it's a little hard, I always go through a few spoons, but I usually only have one spoon, and then I'm like, ah, fuck, I should have got more spoons.
00:29:03But anyway, I did get three spoons.
00:29:05And you want to get right into it.
00:29:06Right.
00:29:07You can't wait until it's done.
00:29:07And I was sort of like an assassin with it because I played it so beautifully.
00:29:12I had to make a phone call to my girlfriend, and I just let it temper.
00:29:17And really, the phone call to my girlfriend, it was just to let this thing temper, you know?
00:29:23Right.
00:29:23You're like, this will give me an excuse, take my mind off the softener, the ice cream.
00:29:27Exactly.
00:29:28I chose to get...
00:29:30the frozen Twix, you know, the Twix ice cream bar, and an ice cream sandwich, a classic ice cream sandwich.
00:29:38And I think that you saw my... You devoured the ice cream sandwich.
00:29:41It was an amazing... Now, you did two hours last night, over two hours, so I felt like you really earned it.
00:29:49I only did like 30 minutes, something like that, and I felt like I deserved a pint.
00:29:54So if I did what you did, I hasten to think... How much I would have eaten?
00:29:58But I think you were a little jealous about my decision because you saw me wolf through.
00:30:02It's true.
00:30:02I wolfed through the ice cream sandwich, and then I was just finishing it up as we got to the hotel, which was literally across the street from the Circle K. And then you noticed in my pocket that I had the backup Twix bar, had a little variety, and I was going to get a little more of that gratification of going in my room with the separate item.
00:30:20And it seemed like, and this is my head.
00:30:23I'm a professional.
00:30:23I know how to plan this stuff.
00:30:25And it also, part of the jealousy was, too, I was like, oh, wow, Mark is only having two little things, and I'm having this huge pint of triple caramel chunk, you know?
00:30:37I just really couldn't commit to that because with me, I do play this game with a pint where I'll eat.
00:30:41What do you do?
00:30:42Well, I'll eat half of it, and then I'll put it in the freezer, and I'll sit down and watch TV for a half hour, and then I'll go back, and I'll eat two spoonfuls, and then I go back to the couch, and I'm like, you know, maybe just a little more.
00:30:51And then usually I'll leave literally three spoonfuls in and say, like, I didn't eat the whole thing and go to bed.
00:30:59I like the way that in the parking lot of the Circle K, because we knew we were rewarding ourselves, that both of us held our ice cream products over our head as if we just won the gold in the Olympics.
00:31:08And there was nobody in the parking lot but a guy with a puppy that, quite honestly, the guy with that puppy in the parking lot looked more lost than the dog did.
00:31:17I did.
00:31:18Well, all in all, the shows went pretty well as far as our performances and the audience seemed to like them.
00:31:23Tonight is Saturday.
00:31:24We have two shows.
00:31:25Now we're driving to Craig's house, my brother, to break in the news.
00:31:28Oh, about the car.
00:31:30Yeah, yeah.
00:31:31But he's getting bagels.
00:31:33Oh, is he?
00:31:34And whitefish and lox.
00:31:36What do you think of that?
00:31:37Well, I think that's great.
00:31:38Now, you know, I cut out sugar and flour and lost 45 pounds.
00:31:41So, you know, eating the sugar, eating the flour, it's a little guilt for me.
00:31:47I don't want to die of a heart attack, but I also want to enjoy life.
00:31:51So it's this balancing act of, like, I want to enjoy life, but I don't want to die of a heart attack.
00:31:56So I don't know.
00:31:58I think that if I exercise later, I'll be fine.
00:32:01Today?
00:32:02Yeah, but I'm not going to do it today.
00:32:03There's no way.
00:32:04There's no way.
00:32:05Maybe I can stop and get you some nice vinegar coleslaw or salad.
00:32:09Uh-oh.
00:32:10It looks like I missed a turn.
00:32:12Ah, shit.
00:32:14I don't even know what I got to do now.
00:32:15Vehicle fire.
00:32:16And there's a vehicle fire up ahead, folks.
00:32:19There's a sign that just said vehicle fire.
00:32:21Oh, man.
00:32:22Let's get off this.
00:32:22Let's.
00:32:24Freeway exit on the right.
00:32:26All right, well, this is turning into a little bit of a nightmare.
00:32:29The car's dented.
00:32:30There's a freeway fire.
00:32:31I haven't had my coffee.
00:32:34Everybody's exiting here, too.
00:32:36Oh, boy.
00:32:37I don't... Just relax.
00:32:39Relax.
00:32:39Maybe we'll luck out, and this fluke of having to get off here will give us a coffee place.
00:32:44By the way, Tempe, I would think they have a lot of freeway fires.
00:32:47I would think things just spontaneously...
00:32:49Combust in Tempe.
00:32:51It's like 190 degrees.
00:32:52I got a lot of laughs talking about the weather here.
00:32:54People laugh at it.
00:32:55Yes, you got laughs.
00:32:56You're very funny.
00:32:59Look, folks, I'm just a laugh approval machine.
00:33:05I like how you interjected every 10 minutes in my act.
00:33:08Oh, man.
00:33:09Now, I thought it was funny at first.
00:33:12And then there was a point where I thought you really did get angry, and maybe rightfully so.
00:33:19And you were very honest on stage saying, you know, Eddie, I have a rhythm here.
00:33:23And I'm thinking, oh, am I fucking up Mark's rhythm?
00:33:25I mean, we did talk about doing some stuff together.
00:33:28This is doing stuff together.
00:33:30But was it bothering you after a while?
00:33:31I thought we were going to plan this stuff.
00:33:33I didn't realize that you were just going to heckle me.
00:33:35I love heckling other comics.
00:33:37I really do.
00:33:38I really do.
00:33:41I get heckled a lot in clubs, but it's usually generic but accurate, like, Eddie, you suck.
00:33:50But I was wondering, I was wondering, what would the heckling be like if someone in the audience knew me as well as I know myself?
00:34:01What would the real specific heckling be like?
00:34:03I think it would go like this.
00:34:10Hey, Peppertone!
00:34:13How come you dream about red birds attacking you at night?
00:34:19What the fuck is that?
00:34:26Your shrink says the red represents the inside of a vagina!
00:34:32Or your angle, what do you think?
00:34:35Also, how come you eat Napoleons at 2 in the morning?
00:34:41That's an afternoon food, look at you!
00:34:44You wear Moo Moo shirts now!
00:34:51Yeah, I'm talking to you.
00:34:54Or don't fucking give me shit.
00:34:55You wrote this bit.
00:34:59Yes, you are a self-sabotager.
00:35:02You even heckle yourself.
00:35:05How come your sister starts all our emails to you, dear garbage, and you haven't paid your father back that 15 grand?
00:35:15Oh, I know he doesn't need it!
00:35:19But you said you were gonna make a payment arrangement!
00:35:22And you never fucking did!
00:35:25You never did!
00:35:30No, you cannot get me back there!
00:35:33You cannot get me back!
00:35:35How come you always watch the JFK assassination in a loop late at night?
00:35:40and you jerk off to UFC fights!
00:35:44Nobody knows that about you!
00:35:49Fuck you, buddy!
00:35:52Fuck you!
00:35:54You also went to a western store today called Sabba's and you always try to blend in.
00:36:02You got a couple of cowboy shirts
00:36:04But you're a Jew!
00:36:07You can't do it, you motherfucker!
00:36:10You cannot look like a cowboy!
00:36:19What an asshole!
00:36:22What an asshole!
00:36:25You don't like that, I think.
00:36:30Oh, wow.
00:36:30Look at this traffic.
00:36:31You made a wrong turn.
00:36:33And now we're stuck in a lot of shit.
00:36:34No, but we're getting off.
00:36:35We're okay because the traffic is on the highway.
00:36:38This exit traffic is just other people that were like, we better get off of this.
00:36:41Wow, this looks terrible.
00:36:43This looks L.A.
00:36:44proportions now.
00:36:46I'm glad we got off, and I'm mad that I missed the turn, but we're talking.
00:36:49We'll go back, right?
00:36:51No, of course we'll go back.
00:36:52What are the other options?
00:36:55No, sometimes when I get lost, I feel like I'm going to have to settle down in the town nearest the next exit because I have no idea where the fuck I am and I'm going to have to raise a family in some exit.
00:37:06I don't know where I am.
00:37:07That's the only time you actually think about raising a family?
00:37:09Yes, the only time I think about raising a family is when I miss an exit on a highway.
00:37:14It's like, I'm going to have to be a homesteader.
00:37:17I'm probably going to have to, I better find a lumber store because I'm going to have to build a house for my future wife and children.
00:37:24All the old-timey references come back.
00:37:26I feel like I'm foraging for things.
00:37:29Uh-huh.
00:37:29You had a very funny thing about how let's talk, when you addressed the audience at the beginning of the second show, which was very sparsely populated, you said, let's talk.
00:37:38See, now we could lie.
00:37:39You know, we could lie.
00:37:39We could lie.
00:37:40I never thought it was a good idea to lie about it.
00:37:42Why lie?
00:37:42No, I know.
00:37:43I'm not that kind of.
00:37:43I don't like spin.
00:37:44I don't like spin.
00:37:45Other comics would have been like great crowds.
00:37:47You know what I mean?
00:37:48Right, right, right, right.
00:37:49If I could paint the picture, I'm recording this for perhaps use on the podcast because Eddie and I are doing a sort of road trip version of WTF.
00:37:59I don't know if you listen to WTF, but thank you very much.
00:38:02So you're probably going to know some of the stories I'm going to tell, but I just want to paint a picture.
00:38:06We're in a movie theater that they really went out of their way to make it feel like it's not a movie theater anymore.
00:38:13That it was once a multiplex.
00:38:15How the fuck does a multiplex fail?
00:38:19So it's someone's idea to make it an art center.
00:38:22Now, let me try to paint a picture.
00:38:23From the stage, given that I really... What it looks like is, you know, if you were watching a movie, and in the movie, they were watching a movie, and then they cut to the audience, and it wasn't a full theater.
00:38:37That's what I'm looking at now.
00:38:40Just scattered people, a couple of guys alone, some couples.
00:38:47It would be cut to in a movie if they were to show that no one was at the theater to create ambiance.
00:38:54And they spared no expense in not doing anything with the screen.
00:39:01There's a full screen behind me, which is always good when you're a comedian.
00:39:05You want something to make you feel smaller and insignificant.
00:39:09And...
00:39:10And the great thing about having a blank screen behind you in a movie theater when you're in front of it is that whether or not any of you are thinking this, because you know in your conscious presence that you're at a comedy show, but some part of you is thinking, when's the movie going to start?
00:39:27When's a guy going to get off so the movie starts?
00:39:31So that's what we're doing here, folks who are listening at home.
00:39:34I don't want to paint a sad picture because, you know, I think it should be said that we're in a very densely populated college town.
00:39:44and that none of them came.
00:39:48Not only do I not attract young people, I repel them.
00:39:52It was almost as if they were maybe looking at the posters around campus going, oh, we've got to tell everyone not to go see that guy.
00:40:01Spread the word, Mark Maron is coming, and we should do everything we can to make sure nobody goes to see him.
00:40:09Because he'll challenge our raw, innocent sensibilities and shit on our fucked up parade.
00:40:18Look at that.
00:40:19Oh, my God.
00:40:20I'm so glad we got out of there right in time.
00:40:22Now, could you imagine us doing the podcast in that?
00:40:25That would have been horrific.
00:40:27It would have been horrific.
00:40:28Oh, my God.
00:40:29Because I would have had road rage in that.
00:40:31But I kind of want to see the burning car.
00:40:32I know.
00:40:33I want to see the burning car, too.
00:40:34All right.
00:40:34So we're going to go to my brother's.
00:40:37I'm looking forward to bagels and lox.
00:40:39Yeah, and I don't know if there's going to be seven children there or three.
00:40:42I tell you, I'm not looking forward to all the kids, though, because when I travel, I get very lone wolfy.
00:40:50Obviously, you're not, since you're visiting 20 people right now.
00:40:55I get very lone wolfy.
00:40:57As opposed to your regular life?
00:40:58Well, my regular life, I am a little social.
00:41:02I am social.
00:41:03I try to be social.
00:41:04But when I get on the road, I'm like, all right, this is my time.
00:41:07This is my time to relax.
00:41:08I got my hotel room.
00:41:10I got my hotel room.
00:41:12I got my books.
00:41:13I love reading novels on the road.
00:41:15I'm reading a novel now called The House of Leaves.
00:41:18Sorry, buddy.
00:41:19Oh, man.
00:41:19We better get off the podcast.
00:41:21I'm just trying to watch the GPS and listen to you.
00:41:24Well, that's why we should maybe get off the podcast while we're driving.
00:41:26No, this is important.
00:41:28This is worth dying for.
00:41:29That's true.
00:41:32You didn't know porn last night?
00:41:34No, but I did masturbate, and it was the first time in a long time.
00:41:37You know, I'm living with someone.
00:41:38We have regular sex, so this was interesting.
00:41:41Was it special?
00:41:41To masturbate for the first time in a while, I really let my fantasies go.
00:41:46Last night, but I don't know about you, but with my masturbation fantasies, it always winds up being a choice of three scenarios.
00:41:55Like, I always focus in on three different people, and it's been going like this for 25 years.
00:42:01I always go back to the same people.
00:42:03Yeah, I used to do a joke about it.
00:42:04You know what I mean?
00:42:05I used to do a joke about it.
00:42:06yeah i've still got like uh there's a few people in there from like when i was in high school like my my my buddy's mom my buddy's mom is in there and i don't you know and i don't i haven't aged them obviously you know i just keep them pristine as i remember them when i was 15 but usually i think i have a fairly broad repertoire you know there's you do yeah well there's about 10 or 15 maybe 20 different people in there wow but like like anything else i always wind up on the same three people yeah well i lock in on a few you do lock
00:42:34But also, I've gotten very lazy because of you, porn.
00:42:37Like, I don't even engage my fantasy.
00:42:38Oh, you know what?
00:42:39I stay away from, again, you know, I hate to keep hitting the addiction note, but I stay away from pornography now because I just think that if I go to it because it's free or like you, porn, red, tube, whatever the fuck, I would just go to it all the time.
00:42:59And I don't want to do that.
00:43:00I don't want to have to withdraw from that crap.
00:43:04do it i don't do it at all maybe i should probably pull out pull away i also find it very frustrating um because when i do do the the free porn thing they give you so many fucking choices no pun intended they give you so many fucking choices and i'm never satisfied it's like trying to find the right suite
00:43:25Or the right drug.
00:43:28It's sort of humiliating to sit there going, no, no, no, no, yes.
00:43:32And then you click on the one that you said yes.
00:43:35And after two seconds, you're like, no, no, this is not what I, I wanted a tie down and I wanted it to be a frenzy and it's not a frenzy.
00:43:47Well, you know, each to their own.
00:43:50Now you're going to make me feel like I'm weird, right?
00:43:52No, you're not weird.
00:43:53No, you know what I mean.
00:43:54Let's find you some coffee.
00:43:56I need coffee, yeah.
00:44:05So, uh, all right, so I called my brother.
00:44:08He wrecked the car.
00:44:09It's not us.
00:44:10Yeah, I told you right away.
00:44:12I said, I bet that wasn't you.
00:44:14But then you convinced me it was, so then I got behind you on that.
00:44:17Like, oh, man, who did it?
00:44:19But now I should have gone with my first instinct.
00:44:21Where's the house?
00:44:22I don't know.
00:44:23It's down here, right?
00:44:24I don't know.
00:44:25Yeah, I think so.
00:44:28I, uh, this doesn't look right.
00:44:31Oh, yeah, it is.
00:44:32Is this it?
00:44:33This is the house here, right?
00:44:34No, this isn't right.
00:44:37Legal U-turn.
00:44:38It's not going to be hard when I call the check.
00:44:40Look at these fucking houses with these columns.
00:44:43What are they thinking?
00:44:45That's called Roman.
00:44:46McMansion's a McMansion, no matter what.
00:44:48You can put columns in front of it, but it looks roughly like a house next to yours.
00:44:51This one's a little nicer.
00:44:54All right, so now there's going to be kids.
00:44:55My wife's... My wife's... My brother's wife's kids, Isaac and Nathan, are here.
00:44:59And my brother's kids...
00:45:01are Shai and I think Eden's here.
00:45:05Who's that?
00:45:05Is that Shai?
00:45:06No, that's a kid.
00:45:07I don't know.
00:45:08All right.
00:45:08It's just a random kid.
00:45:09Here we go.
00:45:11So, are you going to be all right with all the kids?
00:45:14I don't know this kid.
00:45:14I don't know.
00:45:16You don't know?
00:45:16I don't know.
00:45:17What's going to happen?
00:45:18I just, like I said, I'm a lone wolf.
00:45:21You're a lone wolf?
00:45:23I don't even know what that means.
00:45:25How you doing, buddy?
00:45:26Oh, that's, uh, you're Nathan, right?
00:45:30What's your name again?
00:45:31Isaac.
00:45:31You're Isaac?
00:45:33Nice to see you again.
00:45:35Where's your brother?
00:45:36Your brother's Nathan, right?
00:45:38Ethan.
00:45:38Ethan.
00:45:39I was close.
00:45:39Where's Ethan?
00:45:40Hey, man.
00:45:43How's it going?
00:45:47This is my friend, Eddie.
00:45:49Hi, everybody.
00:45:51This is my friend, Eddie.
00:45:53This is my niece.
00:45:55They're shy.
00:45:56Hi, buddy.
00:45:57How you doing, buddy?
00:45:58So what have I missed?
00:45:59When was the last time I saw you guys?
00:46:00Like six months ago?
00:46:01Two months ago.
00:46:02Two months?
00:46:03It's just been two months?
00:46:03I think.
00:46:04Eddie, I'm sorry.
00:46:05You're not getting enough attention.
00:46:07Yeah, I just want to say that things are going good for me.
00:46:10I got a nice big...
00:46:11coffee and um everybody i just want to say hello to everybody i feel like some of the kids like me some of the kids don't that's my first impression some of the kids think you're weird some of the kids think i'm weird but uh yeah when you talk to the kids a lot i feel like you know hey i'm over here you know i know well that's your problem eddie you're a large child but i have a
00:46:33What are your first impressions of Eddie, Shai?
00:46:36What do you think of him right away?
00:46:39Weird teeth.
00:46:40Weird teeth?
00:46:41Weird teeth?
00:46:43Now, I never... My parents never fixed him.
00:46:46And that was... Oh, here we go.
00:46:50Weird teeth is the first impression.
00:46:51Really?
00:46:52Sure, just blame it all on your parents.
00:46:56Ethan's calling Eddie on his shit.
00:46:58This kid's 12.
00:47:00Blame it all...
00:47:02Shai, what did you just say about Eddie?
00:47:12Nothing.
00:47:12No, say it again.
00:47:13I said nothing.
00:47:14The more mean we get to Eddie, the more he gets respected.
00:47:21I think that's interesting.
00:47:22I think Eddie's parents had the same idea.
00:47:27What's going on out here?
00:47:35Eddie, you're playing... I'm not doing well.
00:47:39Yeah, it's 11-6.
00:47:42You're playing ping pong.
00:47:47Yes, I am.
00:47:47I try to keep in shape, like I told you.
00:47:49This is what we wanted to do, get you relaxed a little bit.
00:47:54So you're getting cocky now.
00:47:56Look at you relaxing and playing.
00:47:59Do you like this?
00:48:01Nice one, Eddie.
00:48:03I think it was completely lucky, but you got the plan.
00:48:05I don't think so.
00:48:06You don't think so?
00:48:07You planned for it to spin and lob like that and barely hit the table?
00:48:10Yes, I did.
00:48:11I have finesse.
00:48:12All right.
00:48:12You see it on stage with me.
00:48:13I also do it.
00:48:15I think Eddie's turning it around.
00:48:17You know, if Eddie wins, he's not going to be funny tonight.
00:48:20Don't say that.
00:48:21Darn it.
00:48:22Point.
00:48:24Oh, that was a brutal laugh, sir.
00:48:26All right, don't hurt anybody.
00:48:28No, no.
00:48:29You need some crying time?
00:48:31It seems like a good kid.
00:48:41We just dropped...
00:48:43Isaac off at a, I'm sorry, Ethan off at a baseball game.
00:48:51Got the Blackberry doing the GPS thing.
00:48:52I'm in the car with my brother, Craig Marin and Eddie Pepitone in back, who I think did pretty well with the kids.
00:48:58I think it made you feel better, didn't it, Eddie?
00:49:01I like the I like ping pong.
00:49:03I like baseball.
00:49:05It just reminded me.
00:49:06It reminded me of when I used to hang out with my cousins, when my when I had an extended family.
00:49:11I didn't want this to become a sad story.
00:49:14Oh, I'm sorry.
00:49:16No, it's OK.
00:49:17Now, you know.
00:49:19I've talked about my brother on the show before, and Eddie, I'm just going to have you here to witness what's going to happen.
00:49:27I'm going to keep it relatively focused here because I don't want it to get ugly.
00:49:31Because Craig and I, before you know it, I've done something wrong.
00:49:37It just happens that way.
00:49:38So we'll keep it focused on the fact that Craig has three kids, his wife has...
00:49:43And they were all there at the same time.
00:49:45And I think what I need to do now is I think this is going to be an intervention.
00:49:49I've been meaning to say this for a while, but I think you're addicted to children.
00:49:52And I don't know where it stops.
00:49:55Are you planning on having more children?
00:49:56It's funny you should ask that question.
00:50:00Tell me you're kidding.
00:50:03What we're doing, though, this is an organization here in town called Ask.
00:50:07It's called the Aid...
00:50:09Aid to Adoption of Special Kids.
00:50:12And it's an agency for kids who have been passed from one foster home to another foster home.
00:50:16And they have a program called the Special Friends Program where they hook you up with a kid and every weekend or every other weekend they come and spend a day with you.
00:50:24And so the whole idea is to give a kid a look at what it's like and a...
00:50:29That is great, by the way.
00:50:32That is great.
00:50:32In a regular family.
00:50:33So we thought, one, it would make our kids a little more aware of what's out there in the world so they're not quite as spoiled as they are.
00:50:41And I don't know.
00:50:43We thought we'd just see if we can do it.
00:50:45Well, I think that's a noble thing, but, I mean, to bring a kid into a household with seven children and try to pass that off as normal, I think, is a little crazy.
00:50:56I think we stay away from the word normal, and I think that the kid's been jumping around from foster home to foster home, so he's always got a solid nine or ten other people in the house.
00:51:05So I think we should be all right.
00:51:07That's awesome.
00:51:07I think that's great, by the way, Mark.
00:51:09This is something you would never do.
00:51:11You know what I mean?
00:51:12It's a beautiful thing.
00:51:13I'm having misgivings about having you on the microphone.
00:51:17Not unlike the show last night.
00:51:19I'm calling it the way I see it.
00:51:21I'm trying to have a conversation with my brother about something serious, and you take an opportunity to make me look stupid.
00:51:28Is that what you just did?
00:51:29No, no, no.
00:51:30I just want to say... Just behave yourself for five minutes.
00:51:33Now...
00:51:34Seven kids.
00:51:36I think maybe we should let my audience know that your particular ex's situation, you and your wife Rachel's ex's, have a unique situation, and that is?
00:51:45That they got married to one another as well.
00:51:49So our kids are either...
00:51:52Our kids are always with one parent.
00:51:55My kids are always with me or they're with my ex.
00:51:58It's the same with Rachel.
00:51:59So they go back and forth together.
00:52:02The kids, for the most part, see each other more than we do.
00:52:05So basically you're saying that this is all fine for the kids.
00:52:08They just had to make an awkward switch in the middle of things.
00:52:13Okay, mommy lives with those guys' father, and now daddy lives with those guys' mother.
00:52:18And that's it.
00:52:20And they have come to the table once or twice and said, hey, dad, isn't it weird that they're married and you're married?
00:52:29And we say, yeah, it's unique.
00:52:32Do you ever say, yeah, it's weird, and, like, I don't know why she did that?
00:52:38Try to stay away from that.
00:52:40From judgment?
00:52:41Try to stay away from judgment and opinions because at the end of the day, it's all really good to try not to screw it up.
00:52:48Now, what I'd like to also talk about, which is very interesting to me, is that your kids are adopted.
00:52:54All of them are adopted, and you actually met all the mothers of all these children and were there at the births of at least two of them.
00:53:03We were there at the births of all three of the children, and we met the birth parents of all three of them.
00:53:09And now, how do you handle that with them?
00:53:12They all know they're adopted?
00:53:14They all know they're adopted.
00:53:16They all have seen pictures, and we talk about their birth mother.
00:53:19And if we have the information, their birth fathers.
00:53:24We've celebrated that as a positive thing.
00:53:27And my philosophy on that one was it can't be bad that there's more people out there that love you
00:53:33And, you know, they just couldn't they just couldn't, you know, do the parenting role.
00:53:37And so they found somebody who could.
00:53:40Now, do you anticipate and by the way, that's very noble and very touching.
00:53:44Do you anticipate in the future that there's going to be, you know, a moment?
00:53:50Are you anticipating the, you know, I want to meet my real parents, any sort of anger or do you feel that you're nipping that in the bud now?
00:53:57I definitely think we'll get some of that.
00:53:59Up until now, the questions have come at pretty random moments.
00:54:04We're sitting around eating dinner, and one of them will pop out and say, so do I have any other biological brothers or sisters?
00:54:11And we'll be like, well, yeah.
00:54:13We'll talk a little bit about it, and they'll say, are we good?
00:54:16Did I handle the question okay?
00:54:17She's like, yeah, we're fine.
00:54:19And I when we just did when we went through the open adoption at the very beginning, you get a lot of fear.
00:54:24What if they come back and who are they?
00:54:27Are they just going to show up back in our lives again?
00:54:28And at this point, after all these years, I would very much welcome.
00:54:35the opportunity for them to meet their birth mom.
00:54:38I think that would be a great thing for them.
00:54:40So they would know, hey, look, this woman's a great person and she loves me.
00:54:45She didn't get rid of me.
00:54:46So I think that would be great.
00:54:47I don't think it's going to happen, but I would be open to it happening.
00:54:50That's pretty amazing.
00:54:52So, okay, so at this point you don't anticipate, you know, someone showing up angrily and saying, you know, I want my child back.
00:54:58No, but I do anticipate, you know, during a tantrum for the kids to say, well, my real mom and dad wouldn't do that.
00:55:04You know, that's kind of standard adopted kid behavior to your parent.
00:55:09Has that happened yet?
00:55:12Yeah, I'm trying to think.
00:55:13I think I've heard I'm going to go back to Brandy for my eldest in a tantrum, say she's going to do that.
00:55:22And, you know, tantrums like that, you just kind of ride it out.
00:55:29Our eldest
00:55:30Her grandmother, Grandma Sue, works at Costco.
00:55:36This is her birth grandma.
00:55:37Yeah, her birth grandma works at Costco, and so every birthday she gets just these killer huge boxes of all these fun things.
00:55:45Like a lot of them.
00:55:46Yeah, like a lot of things.
00:55:47So we have pretty good communication there with Grandma Sue.
00:55:51With the other two, we try for a long time, and we continue to try annually to...
00:55:58to keep the relationship alive through pictures or through a letter and it just hasn't it just we don't know what's happening on the other side but that's okay in one way that's okay too because maybe they can't handle it absolutely and i know there was some concern it's interesting because it seems that i guess the youngest shies what are their ages they're um nine and eleven and twelve and
00:56:21And the youngest was sort of a spontaneous thing.
00:56:23It was a very young couple that weren't married, and she had had several children before.
00:56:28That was Eden's parents, but Shai's parents, it was just an accident.
00:56:32Yeah, we actually got a phone call, which is very rare, but we got a phone call, and I entered the phone, and...
00:56:39Andy and I, at the time, were just sitting on the floor on the phone with our other kids, and the person on the other end goes, Hi, are you looking for a kid?
00:56:47Quote, unquote.
00:56:49And I'm like, yeah, hold on a second.
00:56:51It's like, I got to readjust, get in on mode and just talk through.
00:56:56And the next two or three days later, we were driving up to Cottonwood.
00:57:00Getting a kid.
00:57:01And at least starting the relationship.
00:57:03At that point, they had 20 days before they were going to have a child.
00:57:06Well, I guess another big question is, are you finding that... I guess we're going to find out the real answer to the nature-nurture thing, because on some level, you're a little neurotic.
00:57:15You're a little like me, a lot like me, but you seem to manage better.
00:57:18But it's just going to be interesting to see...
00:57:20How much of that stuff is learned?
00:57:23Are you seeing that these kids are acting like you or acting like their mother?
00:57:26Or do you find that they're like, whose kid are you?
00:57:30I don't know how you're acting.
00:57:33Does that make sense?
00:57:33Yeah, it does make sense.
00:57:34I don't see a lot of mom or dad.
00:57:36Not as hope like hell.
00:57:38Our mom and dad.
00:57:38Our mom and dad, yeah.
00:57:39I think that was part of your hope was to just end that.
00:57:42Cut that nonsense off right in the butt.
00:57:45I'm hoping that happened, but I don't see that.
00:57:49Anyway, I think there is a lot.
00:57:52I see it a lot with Rachel's kids, my stepkids.
00:57:56They're all our kids.
00:57:58But you definitely see parent and grandparent stuff.
00:58:03that you that i don't see as far as your kids and my kids because they're all biological because yeah right because races are all biological that's interesting and good in a way um for me i think it's great i think i think you accomplished i think so i think you were like i'm not gonna let dad's insanity go another generation i i've said it since the day we it's the day we made the decision to adopt
00:58:28Well, I'm just happy that you're dealing with your shit, and everything's okay with you, and we don't seem to be spiraling into some sort of horrendous situation, which we've both done at different times.
00:58:40And I think this is the first time that the timing's actually right, where we're both getting our shit together.
00:58:45I think for a lot of years there, my shit was all fucked up, and then I cleaned up, and then you were all fucked up, but you didn't want to tell me because you were having too good a time.
00:58:52And I think that somewhere in here you're like, I'm not going to do what he's doing because I don't have the same problems he has.
00:59:00Yeah, I think it's about, I don't know if you like to hear it, but I think we both live with a little more hope than we used to.
00:59:05A little more hope?
00:59:07Well, you've got no choice because you're irritating everybody if you're just miserable all the time.
00:59:11I think that's it.
00:59:12Well, I think you're a noble man, and I love you, and I'm proud of you.
00:59:25Thanks, brother.
00:59:28I love you, too.
00:59:31Eddie Pepitone and I are out back of the Clarion Hotel in Phoenix on La Puente Avenue.
00:59:41Eddie's got me sucking on a cigar.
00:59:44I haven't smoked one in months, but Jesus, it's good.
00:59:47Is it?
00:59:47I haven't had one in months.
00:59:50It's a victory cigar.
00:59:51It's the post-show, end-of-the-road-trip cigar.
00:59:57I feel like a king, a king right now.
01:00:00I'll tell you, you really took it up a notch that last show.
01:00:03I did.
01:00:04I felt good the last show.
01:00:05I busted your balls at you.
01:00:06Yeah, you did.
01:00:07That first show.
01:00:09You busted my balls.
01:00:10And I also was a little tired that first show.
01:00:12I don't know if it was the burrito right before the show or playing baseball with your brother's kids all afternoon.
01:00:19You sound like excuses and rationalizations.
01:00:21Are you a professional comedian?
01:00:23I'm sorry.
01:00:24Oh, I thought I did a professional job the first show.
01:00:26I think the second show, I took it up to the level that I'm accustomed to, which I guess the word I'm looking for is amazing.
01:00:34Right.
01:00:35I have to agree with you there.
01:00:36It was very funny.
01:00:36I laughed both shows.
01:00:38Right.
01:00:39I think all in all, it was an interesting trip.
01:00:41I don't think the guy that booked the room was as happy as he could have been with the draw, but I'll tell you, all of you WTFers, you what the fuckers out there who came out.
01:00:51You got some cool stuff tonight.
01:00:53I got lovely fans.
01:00:55One guy brought a bag with a bowl of chili in it.
01:00:58By the way, he was a great guy.
01:01:00He had long hair, glasses, and he was like, I made you chili, and I made you two cookies.
01:01:05And the cookies were the size of Frisbees.
01:01:07One said soul fucker on it, and one said angry fucker on it.
01:01:10Oh, I didn't know one said soul fucker.
01:01:12Is that a phrase you've used before?
01:01:13That's great.
01:01:15Yeah, and then one of them gave me this very small nerd cock painting.
01:01:18And then you got a mug, didn't you, or something?
01:01:22What did you get?
01:01:23Yeah, Krista brought me a mug and some cherry tomatoes that she grew.
01:01:28Oh, the cherry tomatoes were good.
01:01:31Someone brought me a canister of chocolates.
01:01:33I tell you, we had a very short period of time, and I think we got you out of your element a little bit today.
01:01:40And you were with children, seven kids.
01:01:42I was with children.
01:01:43And Eddie was pitching balls and they were hitting him.
01:01:47And also the kids came around at first.
01:01:50It was a little mean-spirited kid making fun of Eddie, the eccentric-looking guy, bald.
01:01:55They're making fun of my teeth.
01:01:56By the end, they're begging me, please, Eddie, pitch one more batter.
01:02:01Eddie, don't go.
01:02:02And that's how I like it.
01:02:03I like it when kids, children, are imploring me not to leave their company instead of going, oh, look at his teeth.
01:02:10Yeah, what happened to the fence?
01:02:11I took that out early in the trip.
01:02:13That didn't last to the car ride to the airport.
01:02:16Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:02:17So I think all in all, we had a successful time.
01:02:19We should do it again.
01:02:20I would love to do it again.
01:02:22I would love to be your opener, you know, and I was heckling you.
01:02:26And I think that that is a very good thing, me and you have going.
01:02:29Yeah, I think that's what people are looking for when they hire on an opener.
01:02:32Is that...
01:02:33They want a guy to open for them, but also sit very close to the stage.
01:02:39I even did it from the back in the last night.
01:02:41That was impressive.
01:02:42The first two shows on Friday, you sat right up front and heckled.
01:02:46And very rarely do people stand up and turn to the audience to heckle.
01:02:51But if you got a good laugh with the first heckle, you stood up and went ahead and followed through, put me in the position to put you in your place.
01:03:01I think you enjoy that.
01:03:02I think that's something you grew up with.
01:03:04Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes.
01:03:05So I guess in closing, thank you for joining Eddie and I on our little road trip.
01:03:10And by all means, go to WTFPod.com and get some...
01:03:14JustCoffee.coop or send a little money into the cause.
01:03:17People are actually giving me donations at the shows, which I find a little awkward.
01:03:21I'll take them, and I appreciate it.
01:03:23I'm going to split them with my buddy Brendan.
01:03:25Maybe I'll buy you a soda at the airport.
01:03:27But I appreciate all the support.
01:03:30And as I said, if you go to the WTFPod.com now, we've got the new mailing list.
01:03:35I'm going to send out the weekly thing.
01:03:36I'm going to send out a picture.
01:03:38You will have already gotten your picture of Eddie and me in front of the cactus if you're on the mailing list.
01:03:43And punchwinemagazine.com for all your up-to-date information on the comedy business, which, Eddie, you should probably go with.
01:03:52It was good working with you.
01:03:53Good night.

BONUS Unauthorized Episode 64 - Road Trip with Eddie Pepitone

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