BONUS We Just Left (Jude Law's Office)

Episode 734023 • Released May 7, 2024 • Speakers detected

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00:00:00Guest:I think, yeah, there we go.
00:00:10Marc:We're going.
00:00:10Marc:All right.
00:00:11Guest:We're going.
00:00:12Guest:Okay.
00:00:13Guest:You sure you can hold that?
00:00:14Marc:Yeah.
00:00:15Guest:Okay.
00:00:15Marc:I mean, if I get pulled over, it'd be interesting.
00:00:18Marc:It's not going to be for a phone.
00:00:19Marc:I'm like, I don't think there's a law about this.
00:00:21Guest:No, it's like, you can't get pulled over for licking an ice cream cone.
00:00:24Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:00:26Marc:Exactly.
00:00:27Marc:Well, I guess they could hold you to the two hands on the wheel thing, but who the fuck?
00:00:31Marc:What kind of cop's going to do that?
00:00:33Guest:Yeah, these cops are spending most of their time playing Candy Crush and Fruit Ninja anyway.
00:00:38Marc:I don't know what's going on.
00:00:39Marc:But I do know when I get to New York, I'm like, you know, society can hold together.
00:00:43Guest:Do you know what I mean?
00:00:45Guest:Yes.
00:00:46Guest:Well, yeah, that's what... I think it was like a Lou Reed thing.
00:00:50Guest:You ever see that movie Blue in the Face?
00:00:54Guest:It was like Blue in the Face and Smoke.
00:00:56Guest:They both came out at the same time.
00:00:57Marc:Oh, yeah, right.
00:00:58Marc:One was a cigar shop and the other one was something else.
00:01:00Guest:They were on the street there in Brooklyn.
00:01:02Guest:I always remember this Lou Reed quote where he's like, everyone I know...
00:01:08Guest:They spend their entire time living in New York wondering when they're going to leave.
00:01:13Guest:And he's like, it's been 30 years for me, and I think about it every day.
00:01:16Guest:Yeah.
00:01:19Marc:Well, I definitely had a kind of, what do we need to get out?
00:01:24Marc:Well, we're trapped.
00:01:25Marc:We're trapped now.
00:01:26Guest:Can we get out?
00:01:28Guest:Thanks.
00:01:29Thanks.
00:01:29Guest:We are leaving the Steiner Studios in the Brooklyn Navy Yard.
00:01:35Marc:I spent some time in a trailer here.
00:01:37Guest:Yeah, this was where you filmed Joker?
00:01:38Marc:Yeah, but I was here for like over a week, wasn't I?
00:01:41Marc:Because I had to be on set every day.
00:01:43Guest:You did.
00:01:43Guest:You were making slash across your throat motions in the background.
00:01:48Marc:Yeah, that was important.
00:01:50Marc:Just like, am I going to be in this shot, Todd?
00:01:54Marc:Do I have to be here, Todd?
00:01:56Marc:Can I eat now?
00:01:57Guest:Well, yeah, that was, you know, one of the reasons why I thought it'd be fun to get on the mics was just because as of yesterday, when you performed in Montclair, you were talking about how basically how this city was kicking your ass.
00:02:10Guest:And so, or I guess the better way to put it was your personal mindset and where you're at right now was not lining up with the energy of this city.
00:02:21Marc:Yeah, I don't know.
00:02:22Marc:I think it was a good thing to know, considering I almost moved here.
00:02:25Marc:But my anxiety ratcheted up.
00:02:31Marc:And it doesn't always do that.
00:02:32Marc:Usually it's different.
00:02:33Marc:Usually it's like, oh man, I'm energized.
00:02:36Marc:But I crossed a threshold.
00:02:38Marc:And I'm like, I don't need this energy, whatever this is.
00:02:41Marc:I'm aggravated.
00:02:42Marc:Things aren't going my way today.
00:02:44Marc:And I just saw myself as this cranky old fuck.
00:02:47Marc:In New York.
00:02:48Marc:And that's a big shift from six months ago where I was thinking like, man, it'd be a great place to get old New York.
00:02:55Marc:You know, I'd be like doing stuff.
00:02:57Marc:And then I just became this guy wearing his gym clothes, you know, at a coffee shop in Manhattan, mad at the baristas for not giving me a free cup.
00:03:08Marc:A free cup that you wanted to make a parfait or something?
00:03:12Marc:Yeah, well, I wanted to put my fruit and yogurt in it because I was one of those old guys.
00:03:15Marc:I just bought this in the store right here.
00:03:19Marc:You're attached to the Whole Foods, and I bought the yogurt and the fruit so I could put it together, and the salad bar wasn't open so I couldn't steal a bowl, and you're not going to give me a free cup?
00:03:29Marc:And I would not pay the 50 cents, and I sat there stink eyeing them as I ate my yogurt and berries separately.
00:03:36Guest:You know, Mulaney and Kroll got a whole Broadway run out of doing this character.
00:03:42Guest:Who you were.
00:03:43Marc:That's right.
00:03:43Marc:And then all of a sudden I realized that's who I would become if I moved to New York.
00:03:48Marc:Like, there's no glory in it.
00:03:50Marc:It's wandering down the streets with my Strand book bag and Dwayne Reed plastic bags with God knows what's in them.
00:03:58Marc:Laundry.
00:03:59Marc:Oh, my God.
00:04:01Marc:And I just, I hit a wall with the hotel.
00:04:03Marc:The elevators are slow.
00:04:04Marc:And I don't know.
00:04:05Marc:Well, don't hit this guy if you hit a wall.
00:04:08Marc:This guy's moving at a pace that I'd like to think I could do.
00:04:12Guest:That's a glacial pace.
00:04:15Marc:My goodness.
00:04:16Marc:But he's got nowhere to go, enjoying life.
00:04:20Marc:Nah, that's probably not true.
00:04:21Guest:no there's something something there that we don't want to know about well you know those guys that defy cars they actually slow down yeah cross work walks because it's of the small amount of power exactly yeah it's like well i grew up here and that was what that was what all like public transportation was you had to get like this guy's waving at us hey there you had to get you had to enjoy uh you know doing that i don't know i guess he recognizes you have to remember that sometimes dude people know who you are yeah
00:04:49Marc:Well, like yesterday, some guy, you know there's that guy on Instagram that draws these amazing portraits of people?
00:04:56Marc:I don't, but I don't.
00:04:57Marc:Well, yeah, he always kind of corners stars, and he'll sit and draw them, and they're kind of amazing, and he's got a big Instagram presence.
00:05:04Marc:And some guy came up to me yesterday.
00:05:06Marc:He's like, can I draw you?
00:05:07Marc:Can I draw you 10 seconds?
00:05:08Marc:10 seconds.
00:05:09Marc:It was not that guy.
00:05:10Marc:It was another guy.
00:05:11Marc:He's trying.
00:05:12Marc:He's trying to edge in on that.
00:05:13Marc:But he would not leave us alone, and it made LipSide uncomfortable.
00:05:16Marc:Because I'm like, no, I can't do it right now.
00:05:17Marc:He's like, two seconds.
00:05:18Marc:I'm like, what kind of drawing is going to happen?
00:05:20Guest:In two seconds.
00:05:21Guest:It's just a stick figure with a little beard on it.
00:05:25Marc:I don't ask for donations, but if you can help me out.
00:05:30Guest:That would be a great idea.
00:05:31Guest:I'm going to draw you so fast and you just draw like a thumb.
00:05:36Marc:That's not me.
00:05:37Marc:It's like, are you judging my expression?
00:05:40Marc:That guy's a long shirt.
00:05:42Marc:That's a dashiki, I think.
00:05:43Guest:Yeah, we're in a neighborhood that was traditionally black neighborhoods, completely gentrified.
00:05:50Marc:Oh, has it been?
00:05:51Marc:Yeah.
00:05:52Marc:I don't know Brooklyn at all.
00:05:53Marc:I missed it.
00:05:54Marc:I missed the entire Brooklyn.
00:05:55Guest:Well, this is not far from where Do the Right Thing was filmed, where we are right here on Myrtle and Vanderbilt.
00:06:02Guest:And that should tell you something, that there's a Chase Bank and a Subway sandwich shop right there.
00:06:08Guest:And that girl with her dog.
00:06:09Marc:Yeah.
00:06:09Marc:It's a different world.
00:06:10Guest:Yeah, there was, I saw a New York Times piece the other day about, like, someone who was living in Crown Heights.
00:06:14Guest:Yeah.
00:06:14Guest:And, like, you know, fretting about the rent, how much it cost and whatnot.
00:06:18Guest:And it was like she was from Alabama.
00:06:20Guest:And it's like, yeah, that didn't used to happen.
00:06:25Guest:Yeah.
00:06:26Marc:I don't think you could have lived here then.
00:06:28Marc:Right.
00:06:28Marc:And then I drove through Jewtown.
00:06:31Marc:Through the Hasidic?
00:06:33Marc:Yeah, down in South Williamsburg.
00:06:33Marc:They're all still there, huh?
00:06:35Marc:Yep, yep.
00:06:35Marc:South Williamsburg and Borough Park.
00:06:38Marc:Like I told you earlier, every time I see them, I'm like, is it a holiday?
00:06:41Marc:I'm a bad Jew.
00:06:42Marc:This must be a holiday.
00:06:43Marc:Nope, they always wear those hats.
00:06:45Marc:They're fully layered at all times.
00:06:47Marc:One guy's carrying some sort of plant, but it wasn't like it was just leaves.
00:06:52Marc:And I'm like, oh, it must be the one with the leaves.
00:06:53Marc:But it's not.
00:06:54Marc:It's not Sukkot.
00:06:55Marc:I don't know.
00:06:56Marc:I don't know what they're up to.
00:06:57Marc:I'll be nice to them right now.
00:06:59Marc:I feel like I've been here.
00:07:01Guest:A lot of this has that feeling, right?
00:07:03Guest:You know, it just seems familiar because you... It's New York.
00:07:05Guest:Yeah, exactly.
00:07:06Marc:All these buildings, restaurants everywhere.
00:07:08Marc:I don't understand how these restaurants stay in business.
00:07:11Marc:I always wonder about that when I see little restaurants.
00:07:13Marc:I'm like, who's eating there enough for that to stay open?
00:07:15Guest:I mean, most restaurants don't stay in business that long, but the ones that are around a long time, it's just like any neighborhood thing.
00:07:22Guest:It becomes a cornerstone.
00:07:26Guest:The guy you were just talking to, is he staying in New York or does he live in London?
00:07:31Guest:He lives in London.
00:07:32Marc:I didn't get too much into where he's staying here.
00:07:35Marc:Yeah, yeah.
00:07:36Marc:Jude Law.
00:07:37Guest:Jude Law.
00:07:38Guest:That's why we were in Steiner Studios.
00:07:40Guest:It was an opportunity to talk to him.
00:07:44Guest:You made a film with him, but not working with him, right?
00:07:48Marc:Well, I told him at the end, I said, it was great working with you.
00:07:52Marc:But he said I did good.
00:07:53Marc:He said that I'm the angel in the movie, the dialogue of Allen Berg.
00:07:58Marc:The broadcast that I did.
00:08:00Guest:This is at least right now called The Order.
00:08:03Guest:The Order.
00:08:03Marc:Yeah.
00:08:04Marc:And but like it's kind of a through line to the thing because I primarily, you know, that part was just me on the mics for a few minutes and then me getting gunned down in my driveway with full.
00:08:16Marc:What do you call it?
00:08:17Marc:Squibs.
00:08:17Marc:Squibs.
00:08:18Marc:And it was funny because I had to die good because they're like, we've only got two jackets.
00:08:25Marc:You blow one out.
00:08:26Marc:Yeah.
00:08:27Guest:I guess we're not cleaning that up.
00:08:29Guest:I remember there's a outtake from Boogie Nights of the rig that is set up on William H. Macy's back to blow his brains out.
00:08:39Guest:And it misfires and goes off when he's not ready.
00:08:42Guest:So he's just standing there like ready to take the shot.
00:08:45Guest:And the back of his head blows off.
00:08:48Marc:A little premature.
00:08:52Marc:Yeah, it worked out all right.
00:08:54Marc:But he said the movie's good.
00:08:55Marc:That's good.
00:08:56Marc:And that was good talk?
00:08:57Marc:I think it was.
00:08:58Marc:I think, you know, like, it's amazing what I put myself through always with these things because I didn't know...
00:09:05Marc:You know, how he would talk, what he would talk about, how forthcoming he would be.
00:09:08Marc:You know, it seemed like when we did some research that there was some stuff that felt like he might not talk about.
00:09:14Guest:Well, because he got obliterated by the tabloids for like a decade plus of his life.
00:09:19Guest:And I think was involved in the major phone hacking trial.
00:09:24Guest:Like, you know, the one that Hugh Grant was involved with.
00:09:28Marc:Well, I think he's sort of like, and we talked about this.
00:09:31Marc:I mean, he's evolved into a guy.
00:09:32Marc:You know, there are these guys that...
00:09:35Marc:I don't think he's one... You're going to turn so you can be in that thing.
00:09:38Marc:I don't think he's one of these guys that failed as a movie star.
00:09:40Marc:I think he's one of these guys that decided to be an actor.
00:09:44Guest:Yeah, but also the interesting thing about that is he didn't fail as a movie star in the sense that I was surprised to look at the films he's been making.
00:09:53Guest:It's almost like now in his life, he more consistently is making these big budget movies.
00:09:59Guest:He was in one of the Marvels, Captain Marvel, I think.
00:10:03Guest:He was in the Harry Potter prequels.
00:10:06Guest:He was in the Sherlock Holmes movies.
00:10:08Guest:So it feels like he's one of these guys that has figured out the calibration to be like, okay, I'm going to make the money doing this stuff and then do these projects that I want to do.
00:10:18Marc:I think he...
00:10:19Marc:He implied that there's very little he won't do.
00:10:22Marc:He doesn't seem like one of these guys that's turning down a lot of stuff.
00:10:26Marc:You know who he's like?
00:10:27Marc:He's like Michael Caine.
00:10:28Guest:That's not surprising, considering the remade Alfie.
00:10:32Marc:Yeah, but we talked a bit about Michael Caine.
00:10:34Marc:But Michael Caine could carry a movie, but he could also be a side player.
00:10:37Marc:No problem.
00:10:38Marc:You know what I mean?
00:10:39Marc:And I think that's sort of what Jude aspires to and what he is.
00:10:42Marc:You know what I mean?
00:10:44Marc:He can definitely carry a movie.
00:10:46Marc:He had some interesting things to say towards the end of the interview.
00:10:50Marc:What the hell is this guy doing?
00:10:52Marc:About, you know, something he learned from Anthony Mengele about the responsibility of being the lead.
00:11:00Marc:And, you know, how that you have to be, you know, the environment you create on set.
00:11:04Marc:But so he's kind of a guy that...
00:11:06Marc:Wasn't trained, but picked all this stuff up as he went along.
00:11:10Marc:Yeah.
00:11:10Marc:You know, tricks and stuff.
00:11:11Marc:But but no.
00:11:12Marc:But when I looked at all the stuff, I realized, like, he's a working actor, but he's also like it's like crud up, you know, like these guys who they can feel that they're being groomed.
00:11:22Marc:Yes.
00:11:23Marc:To be a lead.
00:11:24Marc:And then they're just sort of like, you know.
00:11:27Marc:I just, I want to be an actor.
00:11:28Guest:They're kind of more interesting than that.
00:11:30Guest:Yes.
00:11:30Guest:And I mean, this guy, look, dude, you know me.
00:11:35Guest:I'm a married man.
00:11:36Guest:Yeah.
00:11:37Guest:I identify as, you know, cis heterosexual.
00:11:41Guest:Yeah.
00:11:41Guest:If that guy made a pass at me...
00:11:44Guest:I would have done it.
00:11:47Guest:That is like one of the most attractive people I've ever seen in my life.
00:11:49Guest:I know.
00:11:49Marc:When he walked in, I'm like, you're like ageless.
00:11:51Guest:That's what you said to him.
00:11:52Guest:You were like, oh, hello, ageless man.
00:11:54Guest:It's unbelievable.
00:12:00Guest:But then you look at that and you're like, well, of course, when he was in his 20s, like everyone with money was like, we're going to make, we're going to invest in this guy and he'll be our huge movie star.
00:12:12Marc:Yeah.
00:12:12Marc:Oh, yeah.
00:12:13Marc:No, he's definitely got that look and he's got that British charm.
00:12:16Marc:But he was coming up where he grew up.
00:12:19Marc:And it's weird because always with these British actors, you think about these generations.
00:12:24Marc:But the guys he was looking towards were like Tim Roth, Gary Oldham, guys from just a little older than him.
00:12:33Marc:And they kind of led him to believe that movies were being made about people like him.
00:12:39Marc:Yeah.
00:12:39Marc:you know, they're the old heroes.
00:12:41Marc:Like he said, Michael Caine lived up the street or like close by.
00:12:44Marc:And he's like, he's worked with them before, but you know, I, I don't know.
00:12:49Marc:I'm always kind of amazed that you, you know, you just, and I've been on sets, but it's still like, I can't make, I can't adjust my brain to not be like, so Michael Caine, you know, you were like just hanging out, you know, like, uh, but I've gotten better at hiding it.
00:13:06Marc:But, um, but, but it,
00:13:08Marc:All this stuff happens in passing, but he had some nice things to say about Michael Caine and about, you know, the experience of doing Gattaca as the first Hollywood movie.
00:13:18Marc:And he's there with Ethan Hawke and Uma Thurman and Arkin and stuff.
00:13:22Marc:But he didn't seem to... Like, I asked him about it.
00:13:24Marc:Like...
00:13:25Marc:He didn't seem to have that insecurity.
00:13:27Marc:You know what I mean?
00:13:28Marc:Like even when, you know, there's a certain disposition to where he's just sort of like, well, I've got I've got to figure this out.
00:13:36Marc:Do you know what I mean?
00:13:36Guest:Yeah.
00:13:37Marc:Like he had the wherewithal to not be like, what am I doing here?
00:13:40Marc:But just sort of like, I'm here and I'm going to take this in.
00:13:43Guest:Well, that was the interesting thing I thought when doing some research on him was like the pattern was very similar to Malcolm McDowell.
00:13:49Guest:Right.
00:13:50Guest:And and Malcolm, you know, as he said to you that it kind of was like too much.
00:13:54Guest:Like he came here and it was overwhelming.
00:13:56Guest:Yeah.
00:13:57Guest:And this guy just, you know, he rooted himself in it.
00:14:01Marc:Yeah, I mean, I just get the feeling from him, you know, and even Malcolm to a degree that and it's important for me to see it and hear it.
00:14:10Marc:It's like they love the job, you know, even if it takes them away from their life or whatever.
00:14:15Marc:But once, you know, Jude talked a bit about his own sort of like, you know, what am I doing or whatever.
00:14:20Marc:But once they get on set, they're like, oh, this is where I live, you know.
00:14:24Marc:And all the other stuff is, you know, it's just part of that, you know, dealing with hotel time or trailer time or whatever.
00:14:32Marc:But it's still, they love it.
00:14:34Guest:Yeah.
00:14:34Marc:Yeah.
00:14:35Marc:And that Henry VIII movie is no slouch of a movie, man.
00:14:39Guest:This is the thing that he just is promoting.
00:14:41Guest:Yeah, Firebrand.
00:14:42Guest:Yeah.
00:14:42Guest:I mean.
00:14:43Guest:So he's, I mean, it's about, though, it's about, what is her name?
00:14:47Guest:Catherine R. Yeah.
00:14:48Marc:Yeah, but it's like, you know, it's about their relationship.
00:14:51Marc:He's not a supporting role.
00:14:53Marc:Right.
00:14:54Marc:But it was funny because, you know, we talked about, you know, like, you didn't want to put on 200 pounds, huh?
00:15:00Marc:Because, like, you know, he assumed the posture and there was a lot of heavy clothing.
00:15:04Marc:Yeah.
00:15:05Marc:And there was probably, you know, kind of like...
00:15:07Marc:Some padding?
00:15:09Marc:Yeah, something.
00:15:09Marc:But there is definitely a scene where they're fucking, and I'm like, that's not Jude Law's ass.
00:15:14Marc:They brought in a fat ass.
00:15:15Marc:A stunt ass.
00:15:17Marc:Fat stunt ass.
00:15:21Marc:How do you like to put that on your IMDb?
00:15:23Marc:Stunt ass and firebrand.
00:15:28Marc:But he was very diplomatic about it.
00:15:30Marc:He said it was Henry's ass.
00:15:35Marc:But these British guys, they're very affable.
00:15:38Marc:Oh, yeah.
00:15:40Marc:You know, even if they're going to talk about insecurities or whatever, emotions, you know, they're talking about it.
00:15:46Marc:Accessing.
00:15:48Marc:Yes.
00:15:48Marc:Not accessing.
00:15:49Marc:Right, right, right.
00:15:50Marc:They're not going to break down.
00:15:52Marc:I constantly share that David Harbour story.
00:15:55Marc:which is like one of the greatest things to me.
00:15:58Guest:Oh, about him going blank on stage?
00:16:00Marc:Somebody give me a script!
00:16:01Guest:Yeah.
00:16:02Marc:It's the best.
00:16:03Guest:Well, especially when you talk to guys like him who kind of grew up on the stage.
00:16:07Marc:Well, yeah, we talked about Hamlet and how, you know, whether or not that changed him or whatever, and some of his experiences of doing a fairly, like, huge run of that thing in many different cities.
00:16:18Marc:Yeah.
00:16:19Marc:And it was interesting because, you know, he would have moments, he said only like two times did he,
00:16:25Marc:He used some phrase.
00:16:27Marc:I don't remember.
00:16:28Marc:Did he lose a line?
00:16:31Marc:I guess go clear, clean.
00:16:32Marc:Go dry.
00:16:33Marc:Dry, yeah.
00:16:35Marc:And he had to riff.
00:16:37Marc:And he's like, that's not easy.
00:16:39Marc:Riffing in Shakespeare.
00:16:40Marc:Riff in Shakespeare.
00:16:41Marc:Oh, my God.
00:16:42Marc:But like he said, there were times where he...
00:16:44Marc:Like it was so ingrained in him that, you know, he'd be on stage and was just coming out of him.
00:16:48Marc:But he couldn't help but think like, did I miss a whole chunk?
00:16:51Marc:Yeah.
00:16:52Marc:And people around him like, no, no, no, you're good.
00:16:54Marc:You're good.
00:16:54Marc:Oh, that's interesting.
00:16:56Marc:Well, that must happen all the time.
00:16:57Marc:I was talking to Aubrey Plaza about theater.
00:16:59Marc:It's a very interesting subculture.
00:17:01Marc:And I saw her in New Mexico that she had done that play.
00:17:04Marc:I don't remember which play.
00:17:05Marc:Remember she was in.
00:17:06Guest:Hmm.
00:17:06Guest:Yes.
00:17:07Guest:I do remember she did something like, yes.
00:17:10Marc:But there was like, you know, she was like, she was stressed and it took a lot out of her.
00:17:14Marc:And like one day she was just like, I can't do it.
00:17:17Marc:You'll mentally, I'm like really in trouble here.
00:17:19Marc:And she was backstage, you know, and it was like an hour before, you know, the show.
00:17:25Marc:And she's like, I don't think I can do it.
00:17:27Marc:I'm really not well.
00:17:28Marc:And the stage manager was just sort of like, yeah, well, you go on in 15.
00:17:34Marc:That's a union job.
00:17:35Marc:They're not messing around.
00:17:37Marc:It was just sort of like, look, we've dealt with it all.
00:17:40Marc:I understand you're having some actor problems, but the audience is here.
00:17:46Guest:I always remember Amy Poehler talking about that's how Lorne basically treated anyone who was having some type of crisis.
00:17:55Guest:They'd be freaking out about whatever, and he'd be like, no, I understand that, but you'll just do it, and then that's what you'll do.
00:18:02Guest:You'll do the thing.
00:18:04Guest:i guess that's really comes down to it you know what i mean because like you know i got to do this thing in vancouver and all i'm thinking about is like i could still just like fake a heart attack or like there's some ways total tim robinson type thing like there's that sketch where he's like ordering all the food outside at the drive-thru and the guy like comes out to yell at him and he's like oh i could just run he runs out of his car
00:18:32Marc:There's definitely that feeling where I'm like, you know, maybe if I do really bad, they'll fire me.
00:18:41Guest:You know, and I'm just not the right guy for the part.
00:18:43Guest:Now, I have a question for you about that.
00:18:45Guest:Do you think like so, you know, I've seen you come to New York.
00:18:49Guest:You've lived in New York.
00:18:50Guest:We've worked together in New York and I've seen you come back here over and over again.
00:18:54Guest:Do you feel like when you're highly stressed about something like this?
00:19:00Guest:Right now I'm just stressed about the recorder.
00:19:02Guest:How's it going?
00:19:02Guest:Oh, it's going fine.
00:19:04Guest:Do I think what?
00:19:04Guest:Do you think that that plays into everything?
00:19:07Guest:Yeah, right.
00:19:08Guest:So as much as you're like, man, this city, it's getting me down or whatever, a lot of it is just this thing that's in your head.
00:19:14Marc:Overwhelmed about stuff that's going on in my life.
00:19:18Marc:And, you know, it just comes down to that inability to compartmentalize, which I have to really consciously do.
00:19:25Marc:Yeah.
00:19:25Marc:Like, you know, because I woke up this morning early, you know, and I wanted to sleep a little longer.
00:19:30Marc:And then it was just sort of like, well, how am I going to do this?
00:19:34Marc:How am I going to do everything I'm doing?
00:19:36Marc:Like, because I talked about that on the show the other day, that there's some part of me.
00:19:40Marc:The only way I've gotten to where I am is by, you know, contrary action.
00:19:45Marc:Right.
00:19:45Marc:You know, forcing myself to go against my fears to do these things.
00:19:48Marc:But, you know, right now, and it's not uncommon, I'm just overwhelmed.
00:19:55Marc:Right.
00:19:55Marc:And so then that frightened guy is just sort of like, I can't, I just can't.
00:20:01Marc:I can't do all this.
00:20:02Marc:And then I have to be like, well, this is okay here, and that's going to be fine there.
00:20:06Marc:And, you know, this is, you know, I can understand why you're anxious about this, but it'll be okay.
00:20:10Marc:Like, I have to do that.
00:20:11Marc:Right, right, right.
00:20:13Marc:But, you know, when it breaks down, I'm just sort of like, I got to, you know, what am I going to, where am I going to park?
00:20:18Marc:How am I going to, you know.
00:20:19Guest:Yeah, just be any one thing.
00:20:20Guest:That's right.
00:20:21Guest:Why is this parfait not coming together?
00:20:22Guest:Yeah, yeah.
00:20:23Guest:Who the fuck is it?
00:20:24Guest:I can't have a cup.
00:20:25Marc:You know, oh, my God.
00:20:26Guest:Well, and it's funny.
00:20:27Guest:It's like if anybody out there thinks you're making it up when you when you say or you're exaggerating or you're just trying to find some type of hook or an explanation.
00:20:37Guest:When you have said like, oh, you know, doing this podcast is like it's important to me.
00:20:41Guest:It's my socializing.
00:20:43Guest:It helps get me out of myself.
00:20:44Guest:I physically watched it happen to you just now.
00:20:47Guest:I know.
00:20:47Guest:You know, like it's a physical change that comes over you once you're done with a thing like that.
00:20:53Guest:And you're like, you even said you're like, wow, that got me out of myself for an hour.
00:20:57Marc:Western beef.
00:20:57Marc:I went here once.
00:20:58Guest:Oh, there's a few.
00:21:00Guest:They're all over the place.
00:21:01Marc:I remember when I cooked my first brisket, I'm like, where the fuck do you get a whole brisket?
00:21:05Marc:Yes.
00:21:05Marc:And I don't know.
00:21:06Marc:Someone said Western beef.
00:21:07Marc:And there I was in that fucking place.
00:21:09Marc:They're huge.
00:21:10Marc:Like, wherever they are, I think there's three or four of them, and they're always enormous.
00:21:13Guest:Full of meat.
00:21:14Marc:But I... Yeah, no, it definitely... You know, I do... You know, even, like, last night after the show, I was feeling a little vulnerable and a little fucked up.
00:21:24Marc:And, like, because I know there's part of me that...
00:21:27Marc:you know, I'm doing this stuff and I'm sort of like, you know, I'm offering up too much of myself and, you know, I feel like I have control of the material but I'm not sure why I'm talking about what I'm talking about and I'm projecting that the audience is sort of like, well, this isn't what we expected.
00:21:42Marc:But that's always been my fucking...
00:21:44Marc:inner monologue and like when it overtakes me because of all the anxiety like I'm literally back to that guy who's just starting out with stuff and it's like that guy seems to be you know timeless in me and it's a fucking annoying it's annoying yeah well it's this weird thing where I'm sure it's annoying and it's you wish you could correct it in some way but you know much like when you talk about your process of preparing for an interview you do need some of that to fuel you
00:22:12Marc:It's just I have to look at it that way because it's just the way I am.
00:22:17Marc:Yeah.
00:22:17Marc:Like, you know, I think that's me sort of trying to think like I have some sort of control over it.
00:22:21Marc:This is my this is my process.
00:22:23Marc:And it's like, no, this is like, you know, you know, you're like this all the time.
00:22:28Marc:But a lot of times you're not converging on anything.
00:22:31Marc:It's just like that.
00:22:32Marc:Yeah.
00:22:33Guest:But it usually works out all right.
00:22:35Guest:Well, now we're going to pick up your opener.
00:22:38Guest:What are you going to do?
00:22:39Guest:How are you going to get home?
00:22:39Guest:I'll just get a lift from around here.
00:22:41Guest:It's not that far from my house.
00:22:42Guest:Oh, okay.
00:22:43Marc:But you guys are driving down to Philly.
00:22:46Marc:Yeah, she's like a strong act, man.
00:22:47Marc:She's like a real brassy...
00:22:50Marc:Jewish lady.
00:22:51Marc:Very funny.
00:22:52Marc:Yes.
00:22:54Marc:It's good.
00:22:54Marc:It's good.
00:22:55Marc:I'm not competing with her.
00:22:57Guest:There he is.
00:22:58Guest:There's that guy.
00:22:59Marc:I'm talking myself down.
00:23:01Guest:Here he comes.
00:23:03Marc:Well, it never, like, with Nate at Carnegie Hall, I knew, like, I'm like, he's really got it together.
00:23:11Marc:And I'm like, I'm going to go out there with my pad at Carnegie Hall.
00:23:17Marc:I guess it's what people have grown to expect.
00:23:20Guest:Yes.
00:23:20Guest:Well, this is a rare occasion of us to be on the road doing this.
00:23:24Guest:I figured let's pop on the mics here.
00:23:26Guest:Oh, kitty cat.
00:23:27Guest:Don't run that over.
00:23:28Guest:Oh, fucking hell.
00:23:30Guest:Are you going to save that thing?
00:23:32Guest:No.
00:23:32Guest:Oh.
00:23:32Guest:What am I going to do with it?
00:23:33Guest:Bring it down to Philly.
00:23:35Marc:Pull over.
00:23:36Marc:Yeah, I can't do that.
00:23:37Marc:So she's here?
00:23:38Guest:She's here.
00:23:38Guest:Yeah, we can just text her right now.
00:23:41Guest:But we'll sign off before she gets in the car.
00:23:43Guest:Okay, man.
00:23:44Guest:All right.
00:23:44Guest:I'll hit stop.

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