BONUS Producer Cuts - Jude Law, Ali Siddiq, Gareth Reynolds and more
Guest:Hey, Full Marin listeners, this is Brendan here with this month's installment of Producer Cuts, which means you're going to hear things that got cut out of the WTF episodes in the month of June.
Guest:And I'll tell you why I cut them out.
Guest:And we're going to start out with basically a montage here.
Guest:I'm going to let four clips and they're pretty lengthy clips.
Guest:I'm going to let them all kind of play back to back because they were all cut for the same reason.
Guest:And that's because Mark gave me a pretty substantial monologue on all of these episodes, which had very long guest interviews.
Guest:And so this was starting with episode 1544 with Susie Essman, going all the way through the next episode with Larry David, the next episode with Ed O'Neill, and the next episode with Ali Sadiq.
Guest:So you basically had four monologues where I found four chunks of those monologues that could come out and make the episode a little more manageable lengthwise, mostly because these were either repetitive themes, things Mark has talked about before,
Guest:Or in the case of the one with the Larry David episode, he's talking about a product that we were going to advertise and didn't.
Guest:And I figured, well, we don't need to do free advertising for this product that didn't pay us.
Guest:You'll hear all four of these clips.
Guest:I'll kind of put a little silence in between them so you know where they transition.
Guest:But let's let these play out.
Guest:And then I'll tell you on the other side, the other things we're going to be listening to.
Marc:Is it a good week?
Marc:Are you happy?
Marc:What a dumb question.
Marc:I'm sorry.
Marc:Are you all right?
Marc:Are you even?
Marc:Are you level?
Marc:How often are you dipping under the line?
Marc:Into the darkness.
Marc:What's going on?
Marc:I know who you are.
Marc:I know who's listening.
Marc:Nice to talk to you.
Marc:Hope you're doing okay.
Marc:I am having this series of revelations about... And I've talked about this a bit before, but I just did not think that turning 60 would put the zap on my brain as much as it has.
Marc:I guess because I'm...
Marc:I am childless and overly focused on three felines that, you know, my the relative kind of experience I'm having with life is probably not as occupied and engaged as some other people.
Marc:You know, I'm pretty much, you know, I have a girlfriend, you know, but I live primarily by myself.
Marc:And sometimes I wonder with my interactions with my phone, just what is my primary emotional relationship?
Marc:I have talked to you about this before and I just I've got to pull back.
Marc:I've got to pull back.
Marc:There are these things, these dominating kind of corporate entities that seem to be guiding most of our emotional decisions and, you know, purchasing decisions and, you know, decisions about how we feel about, you know, the world, how we react.
Marc:I mean, there just seems to be a monopoly on our fucking brain.
Marc:I mean, yeah, there's a lot of choices, but how many are there, really?
Marc:I mean, you know, you got Netflix and you got a...
Marc:You got YouTube and you got Instagram.
Marc:And I guess, you know, if you're involved, you've got TikTok.
Marc:But if you really wonder just what you're taking in and how you're taking it in and what it's doing to you, it's just a few fucking entities.
Marc:It's like the illusion of choice.
Marc:Just because there's a lot of garbage out there that you can flip through doesn't mean that that means that you're having a choice about things.
Marc:It's easy to get lazy and just kind of let it roll over you.
Marc:All this to say is that my emotional engagement with who's ever deciding on what reels I should flip through on my fucking Instagram app is driving me a little crazy.
Marc:And I'm starting to feel like a drug addict.
Marc:Outside of being a drug addict, a recovering drug addict, the nicotine thing has become kind of pressing, and that needs to stop.
Marc:Apparently, there's a Zin shortage, and it's very weird when you've got a bunch of fucking junkies who have gotten used to the certain substance, and all of a sudden, for whatever reason, it's all gone.
Marc:You've got a lot of people scratching their arms outside of 7-Elevens wondering where their Zins are.
Marc:And then you have to go, you know, find alternative modes.
Marc:You got to go to the Walgreens, get some nicotine.
Marc:I'm tired of it.
Marc:I'm tired of it.
Marc:I'm tired of flipping through reels.
Marc:I just don't know what my algorithm is, man.
Marc:I just... And the emotional engagement...
Marc:And I've talked about this before.
Marc:I don't even know if our brains are designed to handle it.
Marc:I'm just sitting there flipping, and you just have this experience of like, oh, look, they saved that cat.
Marc:What?
Marc:A pancake burrito?
Marc:Oh, my God.
Marc:That lady caught the biggest fish.
Marc:Hey, look.
Marc:jerry garcia 1974 oh shit did that guy even live through that jump yeah and by you know 10 minutes in yeah i've cried i've experienced fear i've experienced elation i wonder about whether or not they're going to let the fish go i don't know why i've become so sensitive about almost any living thing and look
Marc:I know you people expect certain things for me.
Marc:I get it.
Marc:But there are just some things I've got to sort of keep a lid on because the odd thing outside of making you feel better about your life or your point of view, does anything I do here facilitate change outside of the certain things that I talk about on a personal level that may make people feel less alone or may make people think that they can get through something?
Marc:These are the things I think about.
Marc:You know, I know that Trump was convicted of 34 felonies and he was found guilty.
Marc:He was found guilty of these felonies.
Marc:And however your point of view or your perspective or your position on things is willing to either rationalize that or celebrate it, you know, that's on you.
Marc:But there are questions.
Marc:And the funny thing is about him running around talking about how it was rigged.
Marc:What criminal doesn't say that?
Marc:What criminal has not said, I'm innocent?
Marc:It was a setup.
Marc:The system is rigged.
Marc:There's nothing unique about him.
Marc:That's what they all say.
Marc:It was a setup.
Marc:It's rigged against me.
Marc:The system is rigged.
Marc:I'm innocent.
Marc:I'm not guilty.
Marc:So on some level, he's just behaving like any criminal that got caught.
Marc:And all I'm thinking about in terms of, you know, for me, and I don't talk about it as much and I don't talk about the world as much because, frankly, I don't need to be part of the cultural conversation that is not unlike professional wrestling where people are just trying to bait people against each other and yell at each other.
Marc:We live in the great era of yammering.
Marc:And does it solve anything?
Marc:Does it actually do anything?
Marc:Is it even proactive other than to get a little juice through saying something that is going to rub up against somebody else and then having all these provocateurs running around trying to start shit?
Marc:Does that actually accomplish anything?
Marc:Does it do anything other than make somebody go fuck that guy or I knew he thought like me?
Marc:But there is questions.
Marc:And for me, still the biggest fight, and I don't know if it's winnable necessarily, is really the fight against the kind of like bulldozer of fascism that's happening in America.
Marc:And I look, you can say whatever you want about, you know, Biden or Trump or about culture or about my overreacting or like it's going to be OK or, you know, we'll get through it, which we probably will, I guess.
Marc:I don't know if we'll get through everything.
Marc:But but for me, it's still really about that.
Marc:That is the prominent threat in my mind is functioning fascism in the United States.
Marc:And when people forgive this newly convicted felon of an ex-president, you have to wonder about their moral fortitude, their character.
Marc:When you, despite whatever evidence or whatever actual facts about whether or not someone is...
Marc:committed a crime or is just wrong-minded you stand behind that person i mean your character comes into question and you know look i'm i'm no angel and i'm not uh you know coming from a position of of you know complete moral fortitude but the truth is is that you know what is it about your character and either you're you know just gung-ho or
Marc:about minority rule and imposing selective morality on your fellow Americans who just want to live their life, or you're some sort of religious weirdo that believes somehow that Trump is somehow, you know, forgivable in light of the fact that sometimes God chooses flawed messengers.
Marc:Sometimes you need a flawed messenger
Marc:to facilitate what you want to facilitate as a Christian righteous person.
Marc:And look, there are other religious movements that are problematic.
Marc:But someone who is void, devoid of religion, has to question this deal that you're making.
Marc:This accepting, rationalizing, and forgiving, probably arguably one of the most morally bankrupt public figures to have ever been culturally powerful.
Marc:To forgive that in the name of your understanding of God.
Marc:God sends flawed messengers sometimes to facilitate
Marc:His plan.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:He, there was a big one that he actually kicked out Satan.
Marc:And I would say, and this is not overreacting.
Marc:This is not, I would say just in terms of what I've read, the poetry.
Marc:The verse that really there's been nobody closer to the character of Satan in my lifetime than this newly convicted felon of an ex-president.
Marc:So I don't know.
Marc:Maybe I'm saying I'm sure I'm just talking into a void.
Marc:But maybe reassess, you know, what a deal with the devil really looks like.
Marc:And what kind of deal are you in?
Marc:Who am I talking to?
Marc:I'm just being entertaining.
Marc:I'm just being entertaining.
Marc:That's all.
Marc:I'm not even going to mention because I thought we were going to promote it, but we didn't.
Marc:And then I got one.
Marc:I don't know.
Marc:Did we promote it?
Marc:But I got one.
Marc:And it's one of these ones that kind of registers things that I don't understand.
Marc:And it has to do with recovery.
Marc:Did I recover?
Marc:Even if I slept, it's like my recovery is 29%.
Marc:But I had a fairly decent night's sleep.
Marc:Oh, maybe I didn't.
Marc:Five hours, 42 minutes.
Marc:That's not great.
Marc:But I don't know what the recovery means.
Marc:I don't know what it means in relation to what I got to do today.
Marc:All I know is that despite feeling like I do all the time,
Marc:That clearly some part of me is fucking exhausted.
Marc:But I'm back up here.
Marc:I came back up and had a day.
Marc:I actually was at home for quite a few days because I'm not shooting.
Marc:There was rain going on.
Marc:I have actually only shot one day since we've last spoken.
Marc:Since this show began, I've shot one day of scenes.
Marc:It was with Owen.
Marc:But I guess tomorrow we're going to get into it.
Marc:We're going to be doing some RV work.
Marc:which means recreational vehicle work, going to be in motion, going to be doing some chit-chat at a lobby restaurant.
Marc:Yeah, big day.
Marc:Got to cram the head full of lines and try to get more sleep.
Marc:I'll be honest with you.
Marc:There's an issue up here, and I'm no prima donna, and I'm not going to complain.
Marc:But this beautiful place I'm staying at has got those blinds that come down.
Marc:They're like electric, and they go... But usually, along with those, there's a blackout blind that's supposed to come down, and these don't have them.
Marc:So I've got a wall full of windows, which means that I've got to probably if you're the kind of person which I am is going to wake up with the fucking sunrise.
Marc:It looks like I've got no way to avoid it.
Marc:I know it sounds horrible, doesn't it?
Marc:You guys are like, oh, my God.
Marc:How are you going to get through, Mark?
Marc:How are you going to live?
Marc:Well, I'll tell you how.
Marc:I got myself some little silk night blindfold.
Marc:I got a little silky eye thing that I wear, a little eye mask that I don't know if I'm going to be able to wear without ripping off my face in the middle of the night in a panic that I'm dead for a minute.
Marc:But we'll see.
Marc:I'm all right.
Marc:Not complaining.
Marc:I'm a little concerned, though, in what I'm learning about myself.
Marc:And I've known it before, but I'm a little concerned.
Marc:But let me, I'm not going to ramble on.
Marc:But the Vancouver thing right now is, it's working out.
Marc:I was glad to do comedy, had a nice time, met some of the local comics, and I've been, I got a gym down the street, there's a gym in the building, I bought some cookware that I needed, I brought a little cheap guitar up here, you know, I figured out, I just picked up a Google Chromecast and stuck it on the
Marc:TV here at this short-term rental I'm doing, I'm good.
Marc:I'm probably going to be watching way too much TV, which I don't love.
Marc:I don't like being away from home, but I'm going back pretty frequently, and it'll be okay.
Marc:But we did the acting.
Marc:We did some of the acting.
Marc:Okay, I'll tell you the story.
Marc:And many of you have heard me talk probably enough already about my feelings about waiting, about acting in general.
Marc:Do I like it?
Marc:Am I getting a lot out of it?
Marc:Am I doing it right?
Marc:Do I have any real craft in place?
Marc:What do I want out of it?
Marc:A lot of questions.
Marc:And I'm grateful and excited about opportunity, but I just don't know if I love it.
Marc:And because I'm not like a trained actor and because I've talked to actors of all kinds, trained, not so trained, instinctual, I think a lot of it, despite what anyone says or whoever wants to argue with me, a lot of it is just, you know, either you got it or you don't.
Marc:Either you can do it or you can't.
Marc:I mean, some people are inspired.
Marc:Some people are transformative.
Marc:Some people are, you know, brilliant and go above and beyond anything that you would even realize an actor capable of.
Marc:But I think for a lot of actors, you know, there's just it's not so much a craft as much as it is just getting away with something.
Marc:I mean, there is something about the nature of acting that is sort of... If somebody tells you, like, you know, I really want to be an actor, I think in many cases, they're kind of saying, like, I really don't want to do anything.
Marc:I just don't want to... Yeah, I don't want any kind of real job of any kind.
Marc:And, you know, I seem to be able to pull this off.
Marc:And it's pretty sweet.
Marc:And I get that.
Marc:You know, I think on some level, you're really just... The job is to pretend...
Marc:like you're somebody else.
Marc:And, you know, and I think we all do that to a certain degree.
Marc:I would imagine that most people, if they could really isolate, you know, what part of them does that sort of not, not so much dishonors themselves, but, but just sort of is doing something differently in order to be seen a certain way.
Marc:It's like something everybody does upon waking.
Marc:Almost most people are acting, um,
Marc:But obviously the occupation of actors, there's a broad spectrum of different types of actors.
Marc:Some of them are amazing.
Marc:I'm not knocking that.
Marc:And I've been watching a lot of docs, as I said before.
Marc:I've made fun of docs before, but I'm up here
Marc:And I'm not trying to avoid myself or waste time or get out of myself.
Marc:But I don't watch a lot of stuff.
Marc:I watch movies.
Marc:But there are docs about people that interest me.
Marc:And some of it, I guess, is kind of relevant to the kind of life I've chosen.
Marc:I'm just, you know, I watched, okay, so I watched a doc about, someone was recommending me the Guy Clark doc.
Marc:The Guy Clark cunt.
Marc:Someone recommended me the Guy Clark doc.
Marc:He's a singer-songwriter.
Marc:I guess he's one of the original, it was built on his back, the Americana music genre in a way, contemporary of Townes Van Zandt.
Marc:Rodney Crowell, who I had on, talked a lot about him, that he was sort of the leader or the wise man of this salon of songwriters.
Marc:that took place in Nashville, included Steve Earle and Rodney and Towns and Guy and Guy's wife, who's a very important part of the documentary, though I'm spacing her name, and I apologize for that.
Marc:But it was really about a guy who could only do it one way because of...
Marc:limitations he put on himself, that he chose to write the way he wanted to write and to perform it the way he wanted to perform it, and there was no real compromise there, and every time that he made compromises, he felt bad about it, and he lived a hard life because of it.
Marc:Yes, he gets the respect that he deserves from the people that know who he is, and I didn't, and he was a great songwriter, but it's just this idea that do you choose to live a life
Marc:that's compromised in certain ways to honor yourself.
Marc:And if that doesn't work out, you know, what are you left with?
Marc:And it didn't work out for him for many years.
Marc:And it's just, it's interesting the stubbornness
Marc:And then for me, as doing what I do, I don't really know how to do it any other way, and it's not really a choice.
Marc:So I guess that plays into it, and I can understand that part.
Marc:And I've done all right for myself, but it took a while.
Marc:But the creative life is kind of baffling to me because I think a lot of people that live it who aren't just in it for the bread, in it for the money, or figuring out how to make money,
Marc:you kind of wrestle with this stuff.
Marc:And why is it that the people that are unique or odd or interesting or doing something different seem to be the ones on the margins?
Marc:And how do you exist there when you're looking at the inside of what you're kind of on the outside of or whatever you're judging yourself against?
Marc:It's just an interesting question.
Marc:I guess you've got to really love
Marc:what you do or as i said before not be able to do it any other way but are compelled to do it like you have no choice it's kind of rough mentally emotionally spiritually then i watched lost angel about judy sill another fucking heartbreaking story about a creative genius
Marc:And look, I'm not saying I'm a genius.
Marc:I'm just saying that I live a creative life.
Marc:And some of the things that people struggle with in it are fairly common.
Marc:But Judy Sill was, I have both her records.
Marc:And I know the third one was put together and issued by someone.
Marc:But I didn't quite lock into it.
Marc:And I didn't know her story.
Marc:I knew it was kind of a dark story.
Marc:But I didn't know.
Marc:Like, I heard the records.
Marc:I listened to them.
Marc:And I'm like, okay, it's kind of an approach to folk singing or singer-songwriter singing.
Marc:But I didn't know the whole context of her.
Marc:And it's just fucking devastating, man.
Marc:And she was a real genius.
Marc:I mean, her second record is like, you know, it's like divinely inspired.
Marc:And she had that brain, that composition brain, the orchestra brain, the sort of almost like, you know, mathematical music, musician brain where she could hear everything in her own mind.
Marc:And she wrote sort of, you know, mystical, spiritual kind of yearning lyrics that are, that are almost operate in a, a mythical place.
Yeah.
Marc:And I knew nothing about her, and she was hardcore.
Marc:She looks like a very fragile woman in pictures, but she was hardcore.
Marc:Rough childhood, trauma, abuse, jail time, learned how to play piano in reform school.
Marc:She was robbing, stealing, strung out on dope.
Marc:And this is before dope was even that popular.
Marc:She was prostituting herself in her 20s, and she just hit a wall.
Marc:thank God, had a kind of spiritual catharsis and leaned into the music and then was part of that whole Laurel Canyon kind of troubadour folk scene-ish.
Marc:She was one of the first artists signed to Asylum Records with Geffen, along with Jackson Brown, The Eagles, Linda Ronstadt, J.D.
Marc:Souther, Joni Mitchell was around, and she was just this oddball for that crew because...
Marc:She felt things so deeply and was looking for spiritual deliverance in her music.
Marc:And her second record, it's like comparable to Brian Wilson in terms of the way she could hear it in her mind and the way she took control over everything about it to the point of conducting.
Marc:And there's kind of different classical modes.
Marc:It was just sort of mind-blowing.
Marc:And nobody knows who she is.
Marc:Her records didn't sell.
Marc:She got into a bad relationship.
Marc:She got into an accident.
Marc:She had several surgeries and accidents.
Marc:She got strung out on drugs again, was dead at 35.
Marc:And some people are finding her, but I now have to re-listen to all of it.
Marc:But just to sort of struggle with self and with deliverance, you know, what are you trying to do as an artist?
Marc:I mean, how do you do art...
Marc:Or whatever it is you do creatively.
Marc:And I guess it's different for everybody.
Marc:But for me, it's always been somehow life or death with this stuff because it's all I do, comedy.
Marc:And I just started thinking, how do you feel like it's not a fight?
Marc:I mean, like...
Marc:I mean, the fight with self, I guess it's just what it is, but how do you feel like you're not fighting against something, you know, dominant culture, bad art, what you consider expectations, you know, what you consider, you know, shallow, dumb, you know, dominant culture.
Marc:Like if you're a little off to the side or you're a little weird thinker or you're a little bit of a, you know, an oddball, I mean, it's on them.
Marc:It's on the weirdos to fight the fascism.
Marc:It's on the weirdos to fight the dominant culture of pseudo-enlightened meatheads and garbage thinkers and regurgitators and bullies and talking point fire hoses.
Marc:It's like dominant culture has always been, the status quo has always been
Marc:a bit shallow.
Marc:If everybody likes something, it can't be great.
Marc:I mean, maybe it can, but you know what I'm saying.
Marc:So without even a motive, it's on the shoulders of the weirdos to keep that fire alive of originality and almost spiritual communion because you have found a space that only exists from you.
Marc:It's just a, I don't know, man.
Marc:I guess maybe my brain is bending a little bit.
Marc:I mean, how do you just accept and do because it's what you do?
Marc:Without, you know, thinking you're not doing enough or you're not doing it right or you're not, you know, doing it in a way that would be successful.
Marc:It's just, it's the creative life is a struggle.
Marc:And again, I'm not complaining.
Marc:I've done all right.
Marc:I'm just... I was considering Judy Sill, you know.
Marc:And people are now finding her music.
Marc:But it's complicated stuff.
Marc:Anyway, I feel like I'm just rambling, but...
Guest:Okay, and again, those in order were from the episodes with Suzy Essman, Larry David, Ed O'Neill, and Ali Sadiq, episodes 1544 through 1547, if you want to go back and listen to those monologues and hear where those were cut out of.
Guest:The next thing is from the Ali Sadiq episode, and this was something I took out of the actual interview because Mark and Ali are talking about people that are mentioned in Ali's specials, right?
Guest:So it's kind of like if you didn't have the context for that and Mark just brings up Charlie, hey, what happened to Charlie?
Guest:you're not going to know.
Guest:But I figure now some people have gone and watched Ali's specials.
Guest:You've checked out his material and maybe you know who he's talking about just as much as Mark did here.
Guest:So figured it was appropriate to let you full Marin subscribers hear this whole bit.
Guest:What did happen to Willie?
Guest:Oh, Willie was a street guy.
Guest:I'm thinking, I'm predicting heavily that Willie probably didn't make it to 19.
Marc:So he was the guy that was driving the Kewas, right?
Marc:No, Charles was driving the Kewas.
Marc:Charles.
Marc:What happened to Charles?
Marc:Oh, man.
Marc:Because Willie, that's the one, in this new one, it was very funny.
Marc:You were like, he's probably dead.
Marc:That was the trajectory.
Guest:That was the ride he was on.
Guest:Okay, so let me tell you, with Charles.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Because he's the guy that brought you into the life, really.
Guest:Yeah, no.
Guest:But he was the major.
Guest:That's who I got busted with.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:So Charles is probably 60.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:60-something.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Charles was married to this lady named Roxanne, which was so physically attractive at the time that when she would come to the room, most of us would look down at the ground because we didn't want Charles to see us looking at her.
Guest:Or if we was outside and you saw Roxanne, you would just look the other way, especially if Charles was out there because she is Jessica Rabbit.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So now she's 60.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Correct?
Guest:All right.
Guest:She's still Jessica Rabbit, which is crazy.
Guest:The 60-year-old woman shaped the exact same.
Guest:She was just in the Samba line as Miss Trinidad.
Guest:So she has three daughters and a son.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:They're at this club.
Guest:With Charles.
Guest:Those are his kids?
Guest:Those are his kids.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:They're at this thing and they're celebrating the birthday.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:In the black community, when you're leaving the party...
Guest:Whatever man is carrying the cake, that's who the lady is messing with.
Guest:That's her guy.
Guest:Because that's who carries the cake out.
Guest:That's cold?
Guest:That is cold.
Guest:It's so much cold that...
Guest:Husbands won't let their sons carry the cake out.
Guest:Like, well, yo, what are you doing?
Guest:You're not the guy.
Guest:You're not the guy.
Guest:You're not the guy.
Guest:You're the guy that came out of what I did.
Guest:You're a result of me being the guy.
Guest:So I know this is cold, but I'm not thinking anything.
Guest:about this because it's the daughters and Roxanne and I'm leaving out and I see them with all this stuff and I say y'all need some help and it's a big cake I grabbed a cake and I'm walking out I put the cake in the car hug everybody and I go get in my car
Guest:Do you understand the next morning I get a phone call from an unknown caller and I answer those phone calls.
Guest:I don't care.
Guest:Anybody going to restrict me from picking up my phone.
Guest:So I was like, oh, so you carrying out motherfucking cakes.
Guest:Who is this?
Guest:Oh, you know the motherfucking voice.
Guest:You know who this is.
Guest:I said, what?
Guest:Nah.
Guest:Since your motherfucking ass around here carrying out motherfucking cakes.
Guest:Man, you trying to fuck my ex-wife?
Guest:Hey, man, I don't got time for all this playing, man.
Guest:Who is this?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And he said it again.
Guest:Hey, man, you know my motherfucking voice.
Guest:And then I catch the voice.
Guest:I said, Charles, yeah, you fucking know who it is.
Guest:Your motherfucking ass around here trying to fuck Roxanne carrying out cakes and shit.
Marc:How'd that call end?
Marc:I don't guess it ended well.
Guest:I said, Charles, I was just carrying the cake out because they needed to.
Guest:Nah, you trying to fuck Roxanne.
Guest:I'm like, bruh,
Guest:Don't say it no more.
Guest:I was carrying the cake out because they needed help.
Guest:Nah, that's what you say.
Guest:You always wanted to fuck Roxanne.
Guest:Yo, Charles, let me tell you something.
Guest:Don't nobody want to fuck your 60-year-old ex-wife, bro.
Guest:You know what I'm saying?
Guest:And don't... Matter of fact...
Guest:Yo, who the fuck is you calling trying to check?
Guest:Let's get this point.
Guest:Who ratted you out?
Guest:Like, who are you to think that you can call me and question me about any fucking thing?
Guest:Yo, man, you better get your motherfucking act together.
Guest:I say, yo, man, let me tell you something.
Guest:You do know what I was like in these streets, right?
Guest:You remember, right?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I don't do that for no crew no more.
Guest:I do that for myself.
Guest:So if you step to me with that bullshit again about trying to fuck Roxanne, man, you're going to have to see me.
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, man.
Guest:You just make sure you keep your motherfucking hands off motherfucking cakes and shit and hung up on me.
Guest:Where was he?
Guest:I don't know where he was at.
Guest:He called me.
Guest:Fucking asshole called me.
Guest:Fucking cake.
Guest:He's a fucking asshole.
Guest:Was he in jail still?
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:You have no idea.
Guest:No, he couldn't have been in jail because he was out.
Guest:Then I get in touch with him because on one of the specials, I want to do...
Guest:Like a reunion of us.
Guest:Me talking about when I got busted, I wanted to bring Charles on the screen, Mo on the screen.
Guest:They're all out?
Guest:Yeah, they out.
Guest:Man, I called Charles.
Guest:I'm like, yo, say, man, doing this special.
Guest:I want you to be a part of it.
Guest:How much you paying me?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I said, no, I'm not paying you shit.
Guest:He said, I ain't doing that bullshit.
Guest:He said, I said, hey, man, I would like for you to be a part of it, man.
Guest:We'd discuss pay.
Guest:You just coming at me crazy all the time.
Guest:Nah, nah, nah.
Guest:I don't need to be on your shit.
Guest:You tell your little bullshit ass story without me.
I said, man, fuck
Guest:you Charles, man.
Guest:And that was our last conversations, man, because he's just been a dick.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Well, it's so funny that, you know, you pull your life together, you build this audience, you're doing a thing, and he doesn't give a fuck.
Marc:Because that's kind of a humbling moment for you, too.
Marc:I'm like, I'm doing a special.
Marc:He's like, so what?
Guest:You don't give a shit.
Guest:I don't care.
Guest:I'm not a part of your bullshit.
Guest:Yo, I'm going to mention, you better not say shit about my motherfucking name.
Guest:I'm going to say your whole ass name.
Guest:Fuck you.
Guest:Sue me.
Marc:Have you gotten into any trouble from anybody?
Marc:Nah.
Marc:Nah?
Marc:Nope.
Marc:Because everybody's okay or dead.
Marc:Everybody's okay or dead.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Okay, going back to monologues for a second, and this was from episode 1548 with Jude Law, and I just didn't think we needed a section where Mark explains the plot of the movie Capricorn One.
Guest:But if you want to hear Mark explain the plot of the movie Capricorn One, here it is.
Marc:I think it was a big movie for a lot of TV actors, and the concept was pretty good.
Marc:And Elliot Gould, oddly, is kind of at his best in that movie.
Marc:And Karen Black just has a bit part, and she's always amazing.
Marc:But, you know, it's like James Brolin, Sam Watterson, O.J.
Marc:Simpson, Hal Holbrook.
Marc:A couple other people you recognize, character actors from the 70s.
Marc:And it's about a, not a faked moon launch, which people believe, but a faked Mars launch.
Marc:You ever seen that movie?
Marc:I think that someone should redo it.
Marc:But you can't update it.
Marc:You'd have to redo it for the time.
Marc:But I think it could be done kind of smartly.
Marc:It's basically about NASA in need of money and the state of Texas in need of money.
Marc:You know, have in order to keep the program going, which was kind of like not on the outs, but, you know, the space race was kind of done and they were kind of plugging along.
Marc:So they put together this Mars launch and, you know, at the last minute, the last month or so, they realized that they got screwed on an air supply device or something because they went cheap.
Marc:And they couldn't do the launch.
Marc:But the rocket was ready.
Marc:So they had the guys in the rocket and they pull them out at the last minute and they take them to a hangar out in the middle of the desert where they're kind of blackmailed into faking the Mars launch on this movie set, basically.
Marc:And it's kind of interesting because the plot turn is that...
Marc:After eight months in space, the capsule disintegrates in reentry, you know, in front of, you know, the world.
Marc:And now these astronauts are alive and well at this hangar in the middle of the desert.
Marc:And they kind of understand or figure it out that they're dead to everybody.
Marc:And now they've got to, you know, escape the hangar and not be shot down and not be killed, you know, offed by the dark forces who are behind this deal.
Marc:So they split up in the desert.
Marc:And, you know, try to make it back, you know.
Marc:And Elliot Gould plays a journalist who figures it out.
Marc:It's not a bad plot.
Marc:But the movie's okay.
Marc:But it is a little cheesy.
Marc:It must have cost a nickel to make even at the time.
Marc:But anyways.
Guest:Going back to that episode with Jude Law, this is an outtake from the actual interview.
Guest:And it's because Mark is telling the story of his kind of temper tantrum at a New York City hotel.
Guest:And I just didn't think it was necessary to have it told all over again in the interview.
Guest:And so I cut it out of the episode proper.
Guest:But here you go on the full Marin producer cuts.
Marc:Yeah, I had a bad day yesterday, and I'm not really a diva, but I got very upset at the hotel I was at, and I rarely lose it.
Marc:I just lost it, dude.
Marc:Bad service.
Marc:Well, I got this room, and I've made the mistake before.
Marc:This hotel, it's a suite, but it's a shitty room because it's on the street, and it's on a low floor.
Marc:And they offered my manager, you know, oh, give it a suite.
Marc:And then I get there, and I'm like, fuck.
Marc:And I couldn't sleep.
Marc:And the next morning, I was like, I need another.
Marc:How many times do I have to stay at this hotel?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:You know, that kind of thing?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And I'm not that guy.
Guest:Yeah, but sometimes enough's enough.
Marc:Yeah, but I could tell that, like, I'm clearly, you know, I'm making a scene.
Marc:There's other people involved.
Marc:I'm a public person.
Marc:I'm not that big, but big enough for some idiot to fucking record me.
Guest:Yeah, oh, God.
Guest:But the joys of that now.
Guest:I can't even, you know, get a little pissed off without the fear also of being recorded and having that played back to me.
Guest:Yeah, yeah, just turn around.
Guest:Like, can I please just be allowed to be annoyed?
Guest:A little bit.
Guest:A little bit.
Marc:A little annoyed.
Marc:But the manager did an amazing thing, because I felt embarrassed, because ultimately it's embarrassing.
Guest:And you're a good man, that's why also.
Guest:You don't want to dive into that and walk away going, I gave him what he deserved.
Guest:But sometimes you've got to say it.
Guest:Sometimes it's like, hey,
Marc:right i need this it this didn't happen please but there is a battle with the uh the between the good man and i gave them what they deserve because like when it wasn't going my way and i couldn't get what i wanted i still sat down i'm like i'm gonna go to another fucking hotel i'm gonna get on my podcast i'm gonna take this place down it's happening right yeah well i'm not mentioning we haven't mentioned no names yet yeah
Marc:But right at that point where it was getting ugly, the manager, who's just a young woman, she comes up to me and goes, because I thought I was going to have to wait for the other room.
Marc:And I was livid.
Marc:And I didn't even have anything to do.
Marc:I just didn't want to sit there with my fucking bags.
Marc:I was mad.
Marc:And she goes, we got a room for you.
Marc:And she says, but can I talk to you privately?
Marc:I'm like, what?
Marc:Okay.
Marc:And I'll follow her to another room.
Marc:She's like, look, we're happy to take care of you, but you can't just yell at the counter.
Marc:Oh, wow.
Marc:And I was like, okay.
Marc:Oh, wow.
Marc:It was like emotional.
Guest:And I'm like, I'm sorry.
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:But then, wow.
Guest:I mean, not to take sides, but she handled that really well.
Guest:I was very impressed.
Marc:I was very impressed.
Guest:I am hearing that.
Guest:Gosh, she maintained.
Marc:Oh, bless her.
Marc:She was like, I'm, you know, this is not proper behavior.
Marc:I don't have to take, because it could have went the other way.
Marc:It's like, they don't pay me enough to take your shit.
Marc:That's right.
Marc:But she kept it general.
Marc:Interesting.
Marc:And I was, you know, I was embarrassed and I apologized.
Marc:But then, you know, I already knew I'd done something fucked up.
Marc:I already knew that I kind of blew my stack.
Marc:See, it's one thing to self-generate shame.
Marc:But when you put something into the world that you're ashamed of, you can't put it back.
Marc:So you have to fight that.
Marc:And now I've got to walk by them.
Marc:And I'm sort of like, everything okay?
Marc:Can I get you anything?
Guest:Okay, the final monologue chunk I have here is from episode 1550 with Jewel.
Guest:And this was a story Mark was telling that involved Lily Gladstone being at his show in Vancouver, a set that he did at a Vancouver comedy show.
Guest:And I just thought better of it.
Guest:You know, I don't know what she was expecting in terms of being at that show, if she would...
Guest:If it would be known that she was there, maybe she didn't want people to know she was out and about in Vancouver.
Guest:So I figured, you know what?
Guest:Best to just leave this out.
Guest:And now that it's been over a month since it happened and she's no longer in Vancouver, I think it's totally fine for you to know about it.
Guest:And you can hear this story.
Marc:And then the extra added thing.
Marc:It was weird.
Marc:I mean, I don't know if you care about what goes in.
Marc:I don't know if you care about what goes on in my head.
Marc:I can barely talk.
Marc:Too much coffee.
Marc:Seattle just energizes me with darkness and caffeine.
Marc:God damn, man.
Marc:It's crazy.
Marc:But I mean, there was a couple of things going on and it's weird.
Marc:I'm trying to kind of put it together that, you know, a lot of the production of the show I'm working on was supposed to come to the show.
Marc:And that made me uncomfortable in some weird way.
Marc:Because, you know, I'm on set, I'm doing a thing.
Marc:And, you know, that's that thing.
Marc:And then there's some part of me that's sort of like, well, they're all going to come and see me do the other thing.
Marc:What if I suck?
Marc:What if they don't like me?
Marc:Then I got to be with these people two and a half months pretending like they liked me or me projecting that they didn't.
Marc:I mean...
Marc:I wouldn't recommend whatever mindset I have for anybody.
Marc:But here's what happened.
Marc:The shoot ran late, so they couldn't come.
Marc:And I wouldn't have mind if they came, but it was just that I felt rusty.
Marc:But here's what happened.
Marc:So I get a text or a call.
Marc:It was a text from my manager that Lily Gladstone is in town, and she wanted to come see the show.
Marc:And I was thrilled.
Marc:It kind of fueled my focus.
Marc:I'm like, Lily Gladstone's going to be in the audience probably.
Marc:And I said, give her my number if she wants to text and come say hi backstage after the show.
Marc:But...
Marc:But there was a point during this set where I'd forgotten my phone.
Marc:I'd forgotten to record myself.
Marc:I'd forgotten to wear my rings.
Marc:I was really not disheveled, but I was not on point with that kind of stuff, my general kind of preparation.
Marc:And I'd forgotten my phone.
Marc:And I needed my phone for my last bit.
Marc:So I had Charlie hand me my phone on stage.
Marc:And then I pretended like I was scrolling on Instagram.
Marc:And then she actually really texted me from the audience, don't look at your phone on stage, which I saw afterwards.
Marc:But it was pretty funny.
Marc:But it was wild.
Marc:She came and after the show, she was there.
Marc:She's got a new movie coming out.
Marc:And she's shooting a TV show up there.
Marc:And the movie's getting really good reviews.
Marc:I believe the movie is called Fancy Dance.
Marc:And I believe it's her niece in it with her.
Marc:And she was very excited about it.
Marc:I don't know anything about it, but I just read an amazing review of it.
Marc:But she was just hanging out, man.
Marc:And she came with her, I believe it was her niece and another friend.
Marc:And then they left.
Marc:And me and Lily and my manager, David, and Charlie, my opening act, all went out for ramen.
Marc:And it was just... I do still get very nervous around...
Marc:you know, people I respect or people that I believe are talented or, or people that are, are, you know, bonafide, you know, movie stars.
Marc:And she's a great actress, even though we had a great conversation on the podcast, I don't really, you know, know her other than that, but, but she just came out and hung out and, and I get to very strangely, you know, codependent and weird.
Marc:We had to wait online at this ramen place and she didn't really want to eat and she just wanted to
Marc:you know, maybe have a drink and I'm like, Oh man, I hope she doesn't mind waiting online.
Marc:And I'm starting to spin out and Mike, what if they don't have the, the sake that she wants or what's going to happen?
Marc:You know?
Marc:And then we get in there and they didn't have the sake and you know, she just had a beer and I'm like, I hope she's okay.
Marc:It's just,
Marc:What is wrong with my brain?
Marc:She was fine.
Marc:She's just a person.
Marc:But I'm like, and then she was walking back to her hotel and, you know, we parted ways.
Marc:I'm like, is she going to be all right?
Marc:And like, I get very concerned and codependent and I'm just living this fucking relationship.
Marc:And this is not with just, you know, actors or movie stars or anybody, you know, that's famous.
Marc:It's with anybody.
Marc:And I think it's one of the reasons I do comedy.
Marc:It's one of the reasons that I, you know, a lot of times in my life, I prefer to be alone because what I'm imagining on a second to second basis, if I'm with somebody else, it's like, what's going on in their head.
Marc:And then I just make it up.
Marc:Just let my brain make it up, make up a bunch of bullshit that I react to emotionally and mentally.
Marc:That's doesn't even, it's not even real.
Marc:Gotta get into the present, man.
Marc:Again, another reason why I do comedy.
Guest:Okay, finally, this is an outtake with Gareth Reynolds from episode 1551.
Guest:And this happens a lot with interviews where they start talking about something right when the mics get turned on and I'm looking for an entry point.
Guest:In particular, with this stuff, I felt like it was okay to cut because it was Mark mostly talking about stuff he's talked about before in terms of working at stadiums, doing stadium shows.
Guest:But I did like hearing Gareth's perspective on Mark doing a theater show.
Guest:So here's the beginning of the Gareth Reynolds interview that didn't make it into the episode.
Marc:I mean, I don't know what you think happens here.
Marc:A lot.
Marc:But it's mostly going to be, you know, to talk about.
Guest:I can ruin it.
Guest:If this is a. I can try.
Guest:Whatever you.
Guest:You want to try and ruin it?
Guest:No.
Guest:And, dude, I got to tell you again.
Guest:I'm sure we'll talk, but your show is so good in Milwaukee.
Guest:I kept thinking about it like days after.
Marc:I appreciate that you were there.
Marc:And there is something happening with me on stage now that's different.
Marc:There's a comfort level that I didn't anticipate that's happening.
Marc:I don't know if it's because I don't give a fuck as much, but it's probably not quite it.
Marc:I think after the last special, after talking so candidly about grief and stuff, it's opened up this window, this portal.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:To realize, like, I can probably talk about anything.
Guest:Well, you know, what's interesting, too, is the way that you talk about the stadium comedians.
Guest:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Guest:Because having been on those shows, you're...
Guest:It's weird because it's like you always are obviously gone like, oh, I wish I was that forever.
Guest:That's going to be in perpetuity.
Guest:You're always going to be like, it could be better.
Guest:But what?
Marc:It's not better, though.
Marc:It's like it's a groundless comparison.
Marc:It's not even like –
Guest:It's a fool's errand because even when you go, even when I was on the road with Bert, he's like, if I could do the Tampa Bay Buccaneers state, you know, you're just like, it'll never end.
Guest:But so your show, you have those people who you, first of all, I've done four,
Guest:probably four or five shows in that room, never gotten Balcony, and I'm from Milwaukee.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:But to do all that, to have that show, to have that conversation, to have great, you know, great premises, great jokes, and to just be like, I went out today and I'm like, fuck, I got a show.
Guest:Like, I kept relating to the idea of, like, you have a show that night.
Guest:Like, you can't enjoy your day because you're like, fuck.
Guest:And then to get a standing ovation.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It's really like...
Guest:Well, thanks, man.
Marc:It's enough.
Marc:Perfect.
Marc:It's perfect.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:And look, I know what arenas require.
Guest:Yeah, right.
Marc:And also, I don't know that I want that many people to like me.
Guest:I also don't know how, if you connect on the level... Maybe you do.
Marc:I don't know.
Marc:The one experience I had realizing that I could make...
Marc:large spaces like intimate.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:It doesn't always work because there's always that muscle you have to have that happens innately to get out there.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:But there are moments where, you know, because people, they watch, I mean, they're able to watch theater.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:So like they can draw in, like they can, if you hold them, you can hold them and it doesn't have to be huge, but a stadium expectation, you know, where people were selling beer in the aisles or like, who the, I mean,
Marc:That kind of stuff does not work for my style because when I've done stadiums, I'm like, just pick the jokes that have definitive endings.
Marc:Don't go on too long.
Marc:Make sure it lands hard so they know it's done.
Marc:There's no nuance.
Marc:to that, unless you're just ranting.
Guest:Yeah, it's the hits.
Marc:Yeah, well, it's just jokes that I, like, I used to have to do that when I do, like, Letterman or something.
Marc:You got five minutes, so you don't, like, you can't set up the way you used to.
Marc:There's no fucking dicking around.
Marc:And there's got to be laughs.
Marc:And I'm not sure, you know, I know I can do that, but it takes a whole other, it's a whole other job.
Marc:And I feel like it's sort of stifling.
Guest:Well, you're, but I think like, you know, the thing that is so unique about yours is like people almost want to watch your process, which I don't think is a regular.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I don't think that's not, I don't think when I go do shows, I know I think people are like, that wasn't good.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know, I really hope you work some stuff out.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Right.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:No, I think that's just the style that I've built over the years.
Marc:And I think I have a certain amount of self-awareness around it now.
Yeah.
Guest:Okay, that'll do it for producer cuts here on the full Marin.
Guest:We do these every month.
Guest:I bring to you the stuff that I've had to cut out of recent episodes.
Guest:So that way you are hearing the most Marin.
Guest:You are indeed getting the full Marin.
Guest:We will see you again this Friday on the Friday show and next week with more bonus content right here on the full Marin.