BONUS Producer Cuts - Elizabeth Olsen, Chris Robinson, Jason Ritter and more
Hey, Full Marin listeners, it's Brendan here, producer at WTF, and I'm back here with producer cuts.
And these are going to be from episodes that aired in the month of September.
All of these clips you're about to hear are things that I took out of individual WTF episodes.
And I figure you, the paying subscribers of the Full Marin, deserve to hear them.
And first, let's go back to the beginning of the month in episodes 1570 and 1571.
Mark was kind of dealing with a through line here, just questions he had about his mental state and anxiety.
And if you remember back to that period of time, that was all during a long stretch that he was spending in Vancouver.
I think at that point he had been up there for three weeks without a break.
And these things were weighing on him.
I think a lot of times during these intros while he was in Vancouver, he was kind of working through some stuff that I knew wasn't going to have much lasting impact, but he still worked through it nonetheless.
And I found myself kind of thinning that stuff out in the intro monologues just so it didn't get too repetitive.
But I think now that we're past that, now that you know that Mark's doing okay, but I figured, why don't you hear what he was going through anyway?
So, again, this is from episodes 1570 and 1571, and I'm just going to play them back to back.
I am back home for a bit, a little out of my mind.
All this traveling is making me a little crazy, I guess, a little untethered.
But the primary crisis is worry.
The primary crisis for me in my mind, and this is a through line.
It's ongoing.
It is, I think, a type of anxiety, maybe a type of panic.
Maybe it's it's hereditary.
I come from a lineage of warriors on my father's side.
But that would also be the depressives.
And maybe there's a correlation to constant worry.
And depression.
I don't know.
I don't feel depressed, but I'm not sure I know anymore.
I'm not sure I know how I'm feeling, really, or what's causing it or whether it's okay.
Or should I, you know, expect or try to have a better feeling?
I don't know.
Is this getting in the weeds?
Look, I just... My mind...
If it's not engaged, it's somehow concerned or slightly panicked with the worst-case scenario or things that might be happening at the moment I'm thinking.
Just dumb shit.
I was at the movies last night, and we're about to watch a movie.
And Kit's new doggie, B, the mini pit bull, was at my house for the first time in a cage in a room.
And my three cats were wandering around.
And I don't know, like, I was about to watch Aliens, the Romulus one, the new one.
And I'm just thinking, like, is there any way that dog can get out?
My cats are fine.
They'll hide if he gets out.
She gets out.
Is there going to be a problem over there?
Is he going to shit in there?
Is he going to freak out in the cage?
It was like...
ridiculous are my cats going to be too stressed out are they going to shit all over the house because they're panicking we've had a bit of a shit problem what is that problem is that a stomach thing is buster dying is uh is charlie okay was kit right about the wicker and the formaldehyde is that what was causing it because they were using that as a scratching post and maybe ingesting some of it causing charlie to like shit all over the house and on my bed while i was away for one day
The day after I left, that begins.
And the woman who stays at the house and watches the cats is dealing with that.
I mean, it just goes.
And then like, okay, aliens are starting.
But that kind of movement in my brain, that kind of process, those kind of trajectories, that misapplication of imagination that happens instinctively or innately or without my control.
It's not a choice.
Right.
is ongoing about everything.
You know, right now, there's a guy installing a fucking...
leak reader on my plumbing outside so I can get insured properly.
And I'm thinking, where am I going to plug that in?
How's that going to get plugged in?
I don't have a lot of plugs outside.
Do I got to run it under the house?
Is that a hole I got to drill?
Is the other guy coming?
He just sent the guy to put on the thing.
When's the real plumber going to come and guide me through what needs to happen next?
Do I got to go down into the crawl space and figure out a hole?
This is happening right now.
Right now, are they going to interrupt me while I'm doing this monologue?
So should I put on the ring camera so I know if someone's at the door to know whether or not I got to go out and deal with that?
That's happening.
That is happening.
Then on the deeper level, they're sort of like, why am I so tired today?
What's going on with me?
Is there a vitamin deficiency?
Am I not being a good vegan?
Should I be taking more supplements?
Why are my hands tingling?
What is happening?
Why can't I wake up feeling good?
What happened to those days?
Were there ever those days?
Am I dying?
Am I dying?
Welcome to my brain.
How's it feel?
Wouldn't want to live there, right?
Right?
What was I going to say?
Oh, the thing about last week, I think I'm just starting, because my dad has some kind of dementia, you know, I've been very kind of aware of when I put things together in my brain or when I, you know, I'm just kind of getting off on my brain when I say a funny thing or when the other day where I deal with, you know, rebooking a flight, just dumb little shit.
I'm like, wow, man, I...
I pulled it off, man.
My brain's really fucking working.
Like, where did I put that thing three weeks ago?
And then I break down the options.
Where did I put the charger for my dumb whoop watch that I got for free?
Because we were going to promote it, but we never did.
But now I'm stuck in it and wondering whether or not I've recovered properly.
But I have a charger here and I have one up in Vancouver.
But where's the charger that was here?
Because I need to charge my whoop so I can get up and wonder how the fuck that amount of sleep didn't really put me back on top.
And then I broke it down.
I picked the options and I realized I know where it was.
But, you know, I had to go back and and think it all the way through and deal with the vestiges of whatever events took place three weeks ago and dig through that pile of vestiges in my mind.
Am I using the word right?
And figure out where the charger was.
And I did it.
I did it.
All right.
From that same episode, 1571, here is Mark talking to Chris Robinson of the Black Crows.
And they get into stuff about the Rolling Stones.
That includes a story Mark has told a bunch of times.
If you're used to producer cuts, you know that sometimes I find myself cutting out things, knowing that our listeners have heard the story quite a few times, even if the guest hasn't.
And as you'll hear from this, it's kind of a little bit of a bummer because the guest then has a story of his own.
But because of where that's situated in here, I have to wind up cutting it out and we lose the whole thing.
And that's why I think it's worth playing for you right here.
stones played midnight rambler i was like beside myself and that was the way they always when i just no as a matter of fact they played wednesday and saturday here and they didn't play it on saturday oh my god they did play monkey man oh wow i saw them in florida on the last day to that tour the one before this and they went into midnight rambler and then in the middle of midnight rambler they go into like robert johnson's hellhounds on my trail and i'm like what the
What the fuck?
That's cool.
And I interviewed Keith a short interview, and I'm like, what the fuck was that?
And he was like, hey.
And he goes, hey, man.
That's a good time.
He's like, all right, man.
What a character, man.
I was telling my, I went to England with my son, I was saying, to see the football match.
Yeah.
Two football matches.
Yeah.
And I was telling, he was at something about Keith, and I said,
The first time I met Keith, it's a funny story.
Dan Aykroyd, somehow Dan Aykroyd invited me and my girlfriend at the time to a Lakers game.
And he wanted the Black Crows to open the House of Blues on Sunset.
It was the first one.
Personally, I just thought it was cheesy.
And...
I didn't want to do it, and we never did do it, but he was going to like wine and dine us.
Very nice guy.
White limo pulls up.
He's got some joints, and we go to the Lakers, and I have Duck All Orange at the Forum Club, and we see the game, and on the way, he's going to drop us off, and he goes, oh, the Stones are at the Sunset Marquee.
I go, yeah.
He goes, we should go by and say it to Keith.
And I was like, what?
Yeah.
I know you were Dr. Detroit, but you could say hey to Keith Richards.
Yeah.
So we go, and it was a fantastic night, but it's the first time I meet Keith.
And it's at the Whiskey.
It was called the Whiskey Bar back then, Randy Gerber's place.
And so he comes over, and he's like, yeah, man, come by the studio.
All right, Danny, all right.
Yeah, yeah.
He's like, hey, Chris.
And I'm like, all right.
But the waitress brings his Jack Daniels and ginger ale over, and it's dark.
But he puts it up in the light and looks through the liquor, and he goes, too much ginger ale.
And I was like, that's the coolest thing I've ever seen.
I mean, I would throw up to have one sip of that drink, but that was amazing.
It is kind of amazing to meet your heroes.
I interviewed him years ago, and it was like one of the biggest days of my life.
And it was such a fanboy kind of thing, I couldn't even keep myself together.
And there was a moment there where I quit smoking, but I was doing nicotine lozenges.
And he's smoking in the studio.
And it was at NPR in New York.
It's like killing you.
Well, it wasn't killing me, but it was the people in the building like, what do we do?
I'm like, there's nothing you can do.
He's fucking Keith Richards.
Exactly.
So I tell him, he's got marbles.
I said, let me just have one.
I'm just going to hold it, right?
And I'm sitting there talking to him, holding an unlit cigarette.
In the middle, he just fucking throws a lighter at my face.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I smoked it because I knew I wouldn't pick back up again.
But I had to smoke a cigarette with Keith.
That's the least.
That is the least I can do.
It wasn't heroin.
You know what I mean?
Lucky for you.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And another time.
He's like, here, man, have a lick of this fentanyl.
All right.
All right.
All right.
You're Keith Richards.
Alright, episode 1572 had a monologue that was about the end of Mark's time in Vancouver, and he was going through a lot.
He had a lot to unload and process about that whole time and being on the set of that TV show.
In fact, what you're about to hear is from three different sections of that monologue, and you'll just hear them through crossfades.
How are you?
Is everything okay there?
How's the heat?
I was very fortunate to be in Vancouver.
Certainly.
God damn it.
Fucking sounds everywhere.
I was very fortunate to be in Vancouver, certainly this last week, because L.A.
is melting.
I just hope my cats don't spontaneously combust.
I've had to close the catio and just keep them indoors.
It's over 100 degrees.
And it's weird with heat that even if you don't feel the heat, I think there's something about the atmospheric pressure that changes because cats, even if they're in a cool place in the heat, if it's hot outside, they kind of get sluggish.
and antsy and irritable.
I just got word that Buster is beating up on the other two.
And on some level, I'm glad he's got it in him.
So today on the show, I'm glad he's still got it in him.
You know what I mean?
Like cats, you know, they kind of level off and then all of a sudden they're like, ah, look at that.
Yeah, old guy's got a little spunk left.
yeah so i got a lot of books i didn't read oh my god i was gonna you know work on a script i was gonna yeah but i did some stuff i'm just i'm just saying that as i enter this phase of the life and you know hopefully we'll find some time to make some time to do some stuff and now it's it almost feels like
It's too late to go out and explore the world because everything is on the precipice of just melting or burning up or changing in a way that's not going to be what it was like.
I think I'm going to do a kind of end-of-the-world vacation adventure and go to all those places I've never been before just to see how they're slowly falling apart and ending everything.
I waited too long.
The store is closing.
Oh, my God.
But the other thing I sort of learned, and I've talked about this a bit before, but I can't stop thinking about just the differences in cultural ego and just the nature of being an American and why people are sort of like Americans are the worst.
It's because on some level, we are, because on some level,
All of us as Americans have been manufactured by America.
We are made in America with the American ethos implanted in our fucking hard drives that we have to somehow...
take the good and deal with the bad in terms of just the entitlement-fueled engine, the ambition engine, the greed engine, every interaction being transactional engine is all sort of built into our culture.
And it sort of resides in us and is a big part of the way we move through the world.
So I get it, but I get it in a nuanced way.
I always kind of understood it.
Americans are sort of these kind of like self-centered animals that bring their kind of like American baggage everywhere they go, literally and figuratively.
But just being around Canadians is really kind of like, it's sort of a blow to the ego in sort of a great way to see that people can be decent and culturally unified around elements of life that aren't fully selfish, right?
Maybe I'm romanticizing that, but maybe I have to because my ability to romanticize just like Vancouver in general as being this utopia, that's kind of shifted a little bit, primarily because of the existence of traffic and construction and the sort of very reality of all these large high-rise monuments to money laundering that are basically abandoned and unrented.
And there's a definite...
class problem here in terms of things being overpriced and everything else.
And no matter where anyone lives, there's always something to complain about.
It's still a beautiful city, but some of the idea that everything is perfect there, it's like going to a peaceful planet, that's kind of shifted a little bit.
But the nature of Canadian people has really had a profound effect on tempering
My very American, despite whether I want to own that or not, mindset and sort of emotional and psychological approach to the world.
It's innate.
But I don't mind.
I don't mind the check.
The check on my privilege, I guess, is what it would be.
And just the sort of idea of people being a bit more upfront.
There is an annoying pleasantness to it all.
And not unlike the Midwest.
It's easy to maybe assume like, well, they're just repressing all of their dark, angry...
kind of impulses into this kind of very polite thing.
But I think it's a little different than the Midwest, but not totally.
But even there, you kind of get that feeling.
It's like, hey, what's wrong with just being pleasant and sort of accepting life for what it is?
I think there's something about the safety net, which I've talked about that before in terms of health care, that shifts the brain a little bit, where in America it just seems like you're just kind of racing against death to get as much in as possible, to leave as much of a legacy as you can, whether it's with stuff or with money.
or with influence or whatever.
The entire structure of pure capitalism is to run aggressively away from realizing your own mortality to the point where you might even become a death coach of some kind.
But it's just that the entire system is driven by never feeling like you quite have enough
And always kind of like just barreling forward and trying not to think about where we all end up.
And that would be dead.
Hey, how about an ad read?
This seems like the perfect place for it.
Okay, this is from the monologue in episode 1575, and this was when Mark had COVID.
One of the kind of red flags for me is Mark may be going on a little too long about an ailment or malady.
These are the kind of things that, you know, you probably know this yourself, is that when you're sick or you're not feeling well, or you've just gotten over something...
You find it very interesting, but sometimes when you're hearing people tell you about that stuff, it's not that interesting.
So I try to thin these things out.
But for you who have been following along with Mark, maybe you want to compare this to how it was when he had COVID the last time.
I figured I'd let you hear this on Producer Cuts.
Again, this is from episode 1575.
I don't know.
I just strapped in, you know, and I did a lot of doing a lot of liquids first couple of nights.
I don't know.
I never really broke 100 on the fever.
It got up to like 99 point something, but stayed pretty steady.
But I did sweat it out.
And I didn't even know it.
What I usually do when I get sick is the only medicines I really take are the good ones.
Like at night, I'll do a shot of NyQuil and lay it out.
And those first two nights, man, I was drenched.
But I didn't feel fever.
I didn't wake up all fever and fucked up.
Just woke up, drink some water, but definitely sweated out something.
And then in the morning, just a nice Sudafed, you know, the good stuff, stuff you got to buy at the counter.
Hey, look, if I get a free one, I'll take a free one.
It's not even that big of a buzz, but, you know, it kind of works.
And then pulled out the old neti pot.
Haven't pulled that out in a while.
Well, it's not the regular neti pot.
It's the squeezer.
So you fucking just squirt that shit way up into your head.
Watch it come out the other side like a magic trick.
And I don't know.
I feel all right.
Stayed on the vitamins.
I didn't exercise at all.
But I didn't overstrain.
But I couldn't sit still.
So I did get some stuff done.
Important stuff.
Then I cleaned up in here in the studio, pulled all the sound panels out, pulled all the stuff off the rug, cleaned it all up, vacuumed it.
Didn't think the vacuum was working that well.
So that became a side project.
Taking apart the Dyson, taking that inner filter out that's just full of very fine, probably mostly skin particles, washing that out.
Then I had to wait 24 hours.
So there was a lot going on.
A lot going on here at the house during COVID.
Just waiting to put the vacuum cleaner together.
Threw out a lot of stuff that was on the desk here.
Thumb drives.
When was the last time you put a thumb drive in anything?
And there's always part of you that's like, I don't know, what if someone finds it?
I don't even know what's on there.
I don't even know if it's mine.
So let them have it.
Let them have a bunch of whatever song someone sent me.
I just kept thinking about that thing that they say, the Feng Shui thing.
Is that what it is?
Look, if you haven't picked it up in a year, you probably don't need it.
That's probably true.
Threw some shit away.
Put the vacuum back together.
Still didn't feel like it was working as well as it should.
Whatever.
Doesn't matter.
And also, here's something that... I'm not...
I don't think I'm a great cleaner.
Like, I lose momentum.
And I always assume somebody can do it better than me.
Like, you know, there are people that clean professionally.
I'm not one of them.
I'll get hung up on, you know, in a grimy corner just thinking, like, can someone else do this better than me?
And I'll get obsessed with the grime in one place or the dirt, and I'll focus on that for an hour.
And then I'm just sort of like, I don't even want to do this anymore.
but I somehow managed to get myself to accept that I did a good enough job here in the studio.
And like, I'm not, I'm a pretty good tidier, but not a good cleaner.
I can, you know, organize stuff and stack.
I'm good at that.
Not a great cleaner, but I think I did an okay job.
All right.
And Jason Ritter was in that same episode, number 1575.
And this is, you know, just what happens sometimes.
We walk into the garage.
Mark turns on the mics.
They get talking.
And I kind of wait until I have a spot to get in.
And so now you're hearing the stuff that happened before the interview started on the episode.
This also had some repetitive stuff in it from the time Mark had been spending on the movie set, although I did think it was fun how Jason related to that stuff.
So here it is from that episode with Jason Ritter.
You live the life of an actor.
I do not.
But when I do, it makes me very anxious.
Yeah.
It's definitely an anxiety-inducing...
Career.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Like, explain to me, let's see, you want more cans?
Oh, sure.
I just, I guess it is, but I, I don't know.
It's really just the otherworldness of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know, it's all of a sudden you're not in your life.
Yeah.
And you're in this manufactured thing.
And it really, if you shoot something, it's starting to feel like when I come home, it's like a fucking dream that I just go back to.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It doesn't, like, happen in real time.
Yeah, it's bizarre.
But I guess that's the idea of it.
I mean, that makes sense.
But when you're in something for weeks...
Or a month or two.
Yeah.
You're like, is this even really happening?
You come home and you're like, I got to go back to sleep.
I got to go back to that dream I'm in.
Yeah.
It does kind of feel like that.
It's weird.
It is very weird.
And then like you come back to your life and you're like, oh my God, this is the real one, right?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
I think for, I mean, a lot of people, like, the work can become their, like, home life.
And they're like, oh, here's where I got to focus.
And then here's at work is where I feel.
Right.
And then they come home and you're like, what is this?
Yeah, exactly.
Where are my lines?
Yeah, exactly.
No one's catering to me.
Yeah.
Where's craft services?
Exactly.
In the backyard?
I'm hungry.
Yeah, do they have those sesame things?
Yeah.
I love those sesame things.
You do, right?
I do.
They're good.
The sesame crackers?
Yeah, yeah.
They're all sesame seeds?
There's four in a package?
Yes, exactly.
Why is that?
Very gently sweetened with something.
Right.
But when did that become a staple?
I don't think I've seen them anywhere else in the world.
Except at craft services.
They have, like, the appearance of being healthy.
I don't know if they're very sweet.
I don't know if they are.
It's just sugar and sesame seeds.
It's seeds.
It's nuts.
Yeah, you feel like this is, like, it's not totally healthy, but it's not that other thing.
It's not whatever.
Yeah, it's not 90%.
Yeah, you're not eating 90, like, you know, Reese's peanut butter cups.
Oh, my God.
You know, craft services can make or break it.
It really can't.
It's true.
But as long as they have coffee all day, that's my thing.
Coffee all day.
I just try to, like, I don't know what it is.
And I know I talk about this probably to the point where my audience is like, we get it.
You do this job that, you know, you're nervous about and you try not to eat all day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Because you've got that downtime, and you're like, I'm just going to walk over and see what they've got.
I could sit and read, or I could just go eat something.
Can you read?
I'll scroll on my phone.
Pull the mic in a little bit.
No, no, towards you, the microphone.
Oh, right.
You can move it, too.
You just scroll on their phone, sit in the trailer.
Yeah.
is this good yeah you can put it wherever you want i just want you you're closer to it okay i don't want you to be uncomfortable and move wherever you want all right uh like i don't want you to feel like oh fuck i gotta oh yeah you've got a lot of you got a lot of freedom yeah this is amazing yeah see that's the way that works uh yeah i like i i don't know the miracle though and i'll maybe you don't know this trick when was the last time you actually used the tv in the trailer
It was on the pilot of the show that I was working on.
Sometimes I'll turn it on.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Now, did you figure out, like, I figured out, I'm telling you, man, the only thing that was keeping me not acting was the idea sitting in the trailer.
And just wondering how long it could take.
And they have Wi-Fi routers in the trailer on this set that I'm on in Vancouver.
And I figured out how to hook up the Samsung to my Netflix.
So now I'm like, this is fine.
I never even thought of that.
Because 90% of the time, they just don't work.
Wow, what a big, beautiful TV.
And they're like, there's no service or reception.
But I didn't think about casting from your phone or whatever.
Or hooking it up.
Yeah, because usually there's some Wi-Fi in the trailer.
Yeah, exactly.
So you figure out the Wi-Fi number.
And then you can just basically hook up to your Netflix.
Because most of those Samsung TVs have all that stuff on there.
They're like a phone.
So then you just click on Netflix, and then the little square thing will come up here, and you can just have your Netflix and your Prime.
You've changed my whole thing.
I'm telling you, man.
That's amazing.
I'm going to put it in my deals now.
I've got to have Wi-Fi for the Samsung TV.
Right.
It's like now I can act.
Yeah, exactly.
Because now when I go back to the trailer, I'm in the middle of Django.
I'm re-watching whatever.
And just sit there.
Django Unchained in the middle of the day?
Yeah, yeah.
Why not?
I know, it's great.
Catch up on the movies.
Okay, this was just something I cut for time.
It was from Mark's monologue in episode 1576.
He had a lot to say about Tucson, Arizona, and it was just too long.
I couldn't even really shorten it up because it was kind of a, you'll hear it, a kind of mentally bouncing around story about everything he kind of had in his memory about Tucson.
It wouldn't have been easy to cut this down, so I just had to take it out.
But I figure it's good for you to hear right now.
I just got back.
This is yesterday.
that i'm recording this if you're listening to it monday i was in uh tucson in phoenix arizona i had not been out doing the hour-long sets so i was a little uh a little what do you call it a little uh jangled
skittish no not skittish it's just a little like uh am i gonna be able to put it all back together am i gonna you know is any of these jokes gonna be interesting can i remember it all you know and i wrote it out and i thought about it and i sat with it and i don't know we got to tucson me and uh ali makofsky and uh i don't i like tucson
I like it.
We flew into Phoenix, grabbed a rental car, and I got some history in Tucson.
Some of it's vague.
Some of it's hot in a couple of ways.
But I do have a history with Tucson.
I always liked it.
It always reminded me of Albuquerque, where I grew up.
It's not triggering, but Tucson is where I ended up after I...
Hit the wall the first time on drugs, the bad time, the worst time.
It was the first time that preceded me getting sober, checking into a rehab after my first venture into L.A.
post-college in my early 20s, hanging out at the comedy store, well-worn stories.
I don't know about the story of running away to Tucson was really a part of the mythos that I've shared too much of.
But when I was deep in the heart of cocaine psychosis and all of Hollywood had sort of twisted into a prism of mystical conspiracy that I somehow was at the center of, I wasn't sure...
What my job was, but I was pretty sure I was seeing past the illusion into the dark, expansive powers of the illusion-making factory and its darkness.
Had a lot of signs and symbols, a lot of things.
This is why I'm so sensitive to conspiracies in general, because...
Once you let your mind go and it goes to those places, back then I was just manufacturing random tidbits of mystical bullshit and basic ancient good and evil ideas.
I was pretty out of my mind, though.
Out of my fucking mind.
But once your brain does that, you realize, wow.
I'm lucky to have gotten it all the way back.
Sometimes my brain will trip into a little of that and conspiracies are now promoted and managed and nurtured and kind of sprouted and
blossomed and fed to the masses, the sort of nihilistic, untethered, unanchored, uninformed, some of them uneducated masses to put all of modern and recent history together into one big mindfuck.
Well, I know how that particular valve of the brain works, or if it's a valve or a gasket or a portal or whatever, but once it goes out there, man...
You've got to be vigilant about getting that fucker back.
I mean, it took about a year and a half for me to totally shake it, to get rid of all the neural pathways that led into the darkness of Satan's mouth.
But after a year and a half or so, they did recede, and now I'm hypervigilant about what little kernels of unpopped information I allow to kind of heat up in my head.
But needless to say, Tucson was where I landed, like another planet back in the day.
What was that, 1987?
I packed up my car in Hollywood.
I gave away my bed, which is what I usually do.
I gave away whatever didn't fit into my car, said goodbye to a couple of people that, you know, I had to get out, had to get a new passport because I don't know what exactly it was that was chasing me, but I knew I might, at least I knew it was within the country because I figured a passport would provide me some safety if I had a split.
And I did.
I immediately went and applied for a passport.
And that picture on that passport, not the sanest looking fella.
But, yeah, so I left L.A., paid off my drug dealer, and that's crazy.
Yeah, I had a wherewithal to be like, well, I better make things with that guy right since I'm leaving town forever.
I mean, who does that?
Not a pathetic drug addict, but a guy that's still got some little bit of a moral sense of responsibility to honor your debts.
You know, go pay the drug dealer the $125 or whatever.
Say goodbye to him.
That's an important goodbye.
You know, thanks for everything.
There are demons chasing me and you were part of that.
Here's your $125.
Yeah, and I left and I didn't know where to go.
So I just drove my car and I knew my brother was in school in Tucson.
And I'm like, I just got to, I just got to, I need a breather.
Remember there was a horrible accident on the highway.
Took that as a sign.
Part, you know, I pulled off, got in a room at a hotel six, was sweaty, had a six pack.
All I remember was Lauren Green on the television for some reason.
And I was in trouble.
Then I got to Tucson.
I'm like, dude, saw my brother, drove up to his place.
I'm like, I'm in fucking trouble, man.
I've got a lot of dark forces.
I don't know if you can see them, but they're out there by my car.
They've been following me since L.A.
And I got to fucking clean up.
I'm in trouble.
He's like, dude, I'm graduating this week.
We're going to party.
And I'm like, oh, man.
All right.
It's a different crew.
I guess, yeah, I got a couple more days in me.
But that was that Tucson.
And then there was with Tucson when Laughs Comedy Club opened.
There was weird condos, strange women, lizard back tattoos.
It's like it's all a haze, Tucson.
But nonetheless, despite it all.
I always liked it.
And I liked being back there without the dark forces surrounding me, without being on drugs or booze.
And we had a great show.
It was at the Rialto Theater.
A lot of people came out, and I remembered I'd been there a couple years ago with Laura Bites.
And, you know, it was great.
I did like an hour and 40.
I kind of tried to put it all together, but I rambled a good deal.
Funny rambling.
But, you know, when you do comedy long enough, there's always this fear that you're not going to have the time.
So I riffed it out for a good 20 minutes and then, you know, did the stuff that I was doing before I took the hiatus to do the TV show.
And, you know, it came out to be a nice long set.
A real treat, I would like to think, for everyone involved.
Then the next day we drove to Phoenix and, you know, checked into the hotel.
But there's just, like, I'm tired.
Tired of my brain, man.
Okay, and then this is from Elizabeth Olsen's interview in that same episode, number 1576.
And this, again, going right back to where we were before with Chris Robinson, is a story Mark has told before.
This was his story about bumping into David Mamet.
And it kind of bookends something I thought was pretty interesting that Elizabeth and Mark get into regarding acting styles and about the way they handle scripts.
But because of that mammoth story, I really just had to cut it out.
In fact, if you remember in the actual episode, there's a slight bit of overlap to this.
But here it is where I actually just trim that whole section out and you're hearing it now.
My first wife was involved with that.
She was there for a while trying to do that thing.
At Atlantic?
Yeah.
Oh, cool.
I mean, she didn't become an actress ultimately, but she was in that school and
And I don't know, like, I've talked to Mamet.
A man of hyperbole and self-contradiction.
What a character.
Yeah.
It was like, I just had this moment with him recently.
Like, I was in Santa Monica.
It was just like, because Mamet is so singular, right?
I was just getting a haircut in Santa Monica, and I never go to the West Side, ever.
Yeah, it's a far drive to get a haircut.
And I figured, like, I don't spend money on anything.
I want to get a good haircut.
Sure.
So I asked this vain guy I know where he gets his haircut.
That's a good place to start.
Right.
Well, anyways, I'm just waiting outside, you know, on, like, a street in Santa Monica.
And I just see you in the distance.
I see, like, that's fucking Mammoth.
Like, he just carries himself.
Like, he's just walking down the street.
Yeah.
And you'd met before.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it was just the immediate response.
He's about to walk by me and go, David Mammon.
He goes, yeah, thanks.
That's really great.
Oh, that's so funny.
And then he turned around and he was just like, it was just like we talked yesterday.
I hadn't talked to him in years.
He's like, did they send you the book?
And I'm like, what book?
He's like, I'll get you the book.
Is it his new book?
My husband was reading that.
It's hard to read.
It's very angry, apparently.
It's angry, but it's also written in a kind of like, the prose is difficult.
Okay, I haven't cracked it.
He read it and I didn't.
Did he like it?
He liked elements of it, but I think just the idea of producers all being idiots or something.
Sure.
I think you have to take with...
It's kind of like when a producer or a director is dealing with a producer and they're saying, can you make this adjustment?
The best way to say is, yeah, of course, and then just not do it.
Right, right.
And just make them think that you did it and then they feel great that they came up with the idea.
Right, yeah, yeah.
They didn't.
Yeah.
Be diplomatic or, you know, just, yeah.
You can't be so nasty.
That's not how you're going to, like, move forward in the world.
You can't be super nasty.
That's right.
Or, yeah, do something kind of like it or, you know, take the note and don't do that one or do the other one.
But it's weird with that kind of stuff because – and I don't know if it's happened to you where, you know, there's things in a script where you're like, there's no way I'm going to say that.
Yeah, of course.
And then you just have to hold that line because if you give them one –
Yeah, I mean, I try not to really believe it.
I mean, I do develop a relationship with, whether it's a writer, director, or a director who's given their own pass, well enough where they trust my instincts, hopefully.
Yeah, sure.
Within the last, like, you know, five, six years or something, that hopefully I'm not actually put in that position.
Unless it is, I don't know, something that they, I don't know, I actually can't think of an example.
Well, I mean, I think there's sort of different projects, too.
is not a complete a tour project like if the director and the writer are not sort of like this is it yeah and you respect that and then you'll play along with that but if it's just like some sort of you know evolving television project that there's room to sort of like and make it funnier or make something land better i think they're more collaborative the you know the ones that aren't necessarily like this like like mammoth
Yeah.
Well, if I—I'm going to work with Todd Salons, and there's, like, there are a couple lines in the script where I'm like, well, this is really going to— What the fuck are you—I'm sorry, I keep saying fuck.
I don't know why I'm doing that.
That's okay.
What are you doing with that guy?
We're doing a movie he wrote that actually has a plot, and he's really— I love him.
I talk to that guy, too.
I love him so much.
And there are a couple lines where I would be a little worried to say—
But it's fucking Slant.
Yeah, right.
Like in that situation, I'm like, I just have to figure out.
You'll live with the meme that comes out of it.
Yeah.
And I'll have to figure out how to say it where it's because I think a lot of the things with the way he writes is you see what's funny.
Yeah.
But he doesn't want you to play into any humor at all.
No, no.
He's also not malintentioned.
Right.
He has really.
good intentions.
It's just his point of view and his perspective on people.
And so there's just a version that I have to then get inside of and not know what is the funny thing.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think it's the funny thing that makes people uncomfortable with it.
And so you have to not lean into it because then that's offensive or something.
Right.
As opposed to you... You can't be broad.
Right.
Yeah, you want to really get behind that.
That's right, yeah.
Okay, finally, this goes under the principle of not too much malady or illness talk.
And although it's not an illness, on the monologue of episode 1577, Mark was talking about his blood work and physical that he just went through.
And, you know, there's a part, this is going to give you a little tip of how I think about editing sometimes.
There's a part where he says something to the audience about, I don't really need your input on this.
Meaning he's not looking for emails suggesting what he should do about this bit of blood work information he had.
Well, that's almost a guarantee that he will get feedback on that.
And then that's almost a guarantee that that will be content on the show for multiple weeks.
And I think my little ability to have a pocket veto on things sometimes is to be like, yeah, you know what?
I don't want three weeks of talking about Mark's blood work, especially when it's not super interesting.
So this is a little bit of behind the scenes stuff.
You're getting to hear it now.
Sometimes I hear little things that set off an alarm for me where I know if I don't nip this in the bud, this is going to be a multi-episode bit of content.
And I think we're all better off that we didn't go that way.
Well, you know, I went in for a physical and I don't know.
I don't know.
You know, everything seems fine.
There's a problem with the with the system.
Over where my health coverage is.
Because, you know, it's one thing if you're at home and you have symptoms of this or that.
And then you go to WebMD or you go online and you start doing research about what your symptoms could mean.
That never goes well, obviously.
We all know that.
We're not doctors.
But the weird thing about my particular health plan is there is a portal.
So, you know, I go get the physical, I get all the tests and then the results, just the uncommented on, uninterpreted tests outside of whatever numbers are on in terms of what decides if something's normal or not normal, which is on the test results.
But no doctor input, just the raw info, you know, comes to me before the doctor could take days to comment on it.
But I'm looking at it and I'm scanning all the tests.
I got all the tests.
To see what's going on.
What's going on with the blood work?
What's going on with the pee work?
What's going on with the other stuff?
All of it.
I'm looking at vitamins.
I'm looking at testosterone.
I'm looking at lipids.
I'm looking at urine.
I'm looking at all these different vitamin blood work because I've been doing the vegan thing.
And it's almost all good.
Except for one thing.
And I don't I don't think I'm in any kind of trouble and I'm not even sure I want to talk about what it was that was the problem.
All right.
It was I think there I think it's called the calcium oxalates.
So like that's the one thing in all the tests like my cholesterol, sadly.
even after being a vegan for a year and a half now, it's just kind of leveled off.
It's not terrible.
My total cholesterol is good, but my LDL is a little higher than it should be.
It's not in any crisis mode, but it's genetic and there's nothing I can do about it.
Now, I don't know if I need any more input.
I don't need input about what you think cholesterol is or isn't or whether it's bad or good or whether it doesn't matter.
I don't need any of that kind of input.
I'm not looking...
for help from my audience around this stuff.
Though, though these oxalates, you know, which I guess can show up in your pee, either from dehydration or too many oxalates in your diet.
So I'm doing the research.
Haven't even talked to the doctor.
And I'm looking up oxalates and it turns out on a vegan diet, almost everything is filled with fucking oxalates.
And also, I'm taking a calcium supplement.
I'm going to stop.
You know what?
I'm not going to stop being a vegan yet.
But Jesus Christ, man, you think you're doing something good for yourself.
And everybody's got opinions.
Of course, there's going to be plenty of people out there that are going to be like, well, vegan's just stupid.
Well, it's actually not stupid for a lot of reasons.
And I've been enjoying it.
And I'm not saying I'm going to jump ship yet.
But I got to figure out where to get some of these proteins outside of soy protein.
Or fucking nuts filled with oxalates.
And I don't know, you know, really the big picture on these.
I guess they could lead to kidney stones.
It might just been a bad morning.
It might just be dehydration.
I don't know.
But this is the kind of information where I have proof.
I'm not just speculating.
I'm not feeling my side going, what's that pain?
I'm going to look it up.
You know, I got these, I'm oxalated and I got to figure out what the fuck that is.
I got to talk to the doc and he's going to be like, well, it could be this, could be that, you know, and then I'll ask him like, well, is it related to my diet?
And he's like, I don't know, you know, because they don't, I mean, they don't know, but here's what I'm, here's what I'm planning on doing.
And, uh, I mean, I guess you can give me input.
I don't need input.
I'm going to get off all the fucking supplements because my B12 is over.
You know, it's out.
It's blown up because, you know, you think you're vegan.
You got to get the B12.
So I take this spray.
Now I'm like, I think most of my blood is B12.
My D is fine.
Testosterone was high.
I'm not bragging, but that might be because of apparently in terms of the notes on the test themselves might be if you have biotin in your supplement, it might skewer those numbers.
So fuck it, man.
You know, what do I really know?
What do we really know?
You know, you hear it's all hearsay.
Are you taking that vitamin?
What does that do?
Oh, it does?
It does nothing.
That's what we think it does.
Oh, I'm going to take that.
I'm going to take that.
I've been taking the calcium and magnesium since I broke my foot.
I just got to let that go.
I got to let them all go.
Red yeast, rice, fuck it.
Creatine, fuck it.
Vitamin C, don't need it.
Vitamin D might be the only thing you really need.
That's what I've decided.
That's speculation.
I'm going to get off the supplements.
I don't know how it's going to affect me, but I need to get to some sort of baseline.
There's always this drive...
towards some sort of perfection.
Like, you know, I'm going to, it's not, I don't even think I'm going to be perfect, but you just want to be healthy.
And for some reason, I'm just taking all this shit and some of it's building up.
Might not need it.
Fuck it.
I'm sorry.
This is just on my mind.
Okay, that'll do it for Producer Cuts.
We'll be back with more next month, everything that's happening in the month of October that we've had to cut out.
But until then, I hope you keep enjoying the full Marin, and thank you so much for being here with us.