BONUS Producer Cuts - Keith Urban, Robert Patrick, Al Pacino and more
Hey there, Full Marin listeners.
This is Brendan, and I'm here with Producer Cuts from the month of October on WTF.
I am the producer of the show, and if you've listened to these before, you know that these are the things I had to take out of episodes that we played recently.
And as I mentioned, all of these come from the month of October.
And we're going to go start with episode 1580.
That was the one with Sebastian Stan.
During the monologue here, I felt like this was maybe a little like more information than was necessary about some tech issues that Mark was having with his console, with his board.
It really wasn't anything you were ever going to hear manifest on the show.
So I didn't think it was necessary to leave this in.
But this is one of those moments where why not let you, the full Marion listeners, hear about the backstage issues from WTF?
How do I sound?
I'm checking my levels.
I'm checking my levels.
We had some issues in here.
Brendan was here over the weekend.
We both went to Tom Sharpling's marriage, his wedding to Julia Vickerman.
What a lovely event that was.
What a lovely event.
But Brendan was here in the studio and we're doing some work, doing some recording, doing some talking.
It was brought to my attention by Brendan, who was on the other side of the table here on the guest side, that it was very distorted coming through the guest headphones and no one said anything.
I don't even know how long it's been going on for.
Just maybe hundreds of guests sitting over there hearing like no one complaining.
Jesus Christ.
So then we got into it.
We tried to fix it.
We're fucking with knobs and buttons in here.
I'm not a knobs and buttons guy.
Brendan's really not a knobs and buttons guy.
I got an interface here.
I got a mixer here.
I got knobs, buttons.
I got those level sliders, little sliders.
I have no idea how to fuck with any of it.
I don't know what any of it means.
I don't understand the electronics.
I'm just recording voice in here.
But not knowing about knobs and buttons has never stopped me from fucking with knobs and buttons.
So I fucked with it.
You know, and I'm still fucking with it.
And I'm hoping that it sounds okay.
I just don't, you know, I guess I got to get a professional knobs and buttons guy in here.
I think I've got it worked out, but it feels very precarious, very delicate.
Like if I turn one knob a little bit, it's just me.
Can't have that.
When was the last time you checked your knobs and buttons?
God damn it.
Frustrating.
I mean, this is old-timey tech, too.
I got to get a pro knob guy in here.
Look, I can handle two knobs.
One button, maybe.
But, you know, you get more than two knobs and one button, I'm fucking lost.
I can do, you know, I can do a slider and maybe two knobs.
A couple sliders and two knobs.
Two sliders, two knobs.
Maybe one button still.
But I'm fucking with several knobs and buttons.
Have you sat down and checked your levels?
Check your levels, people.
I mean, I'm across the board.
Your personal board.
All right.
Next up is on episode 1581.
That's with Langston Kerman.
In Mark's monologue, he had a very interesting take on the movie A Different Man.
That's the movie that Sebastian Stan was in.
And this fell into a category for me of what I like to call clickbait drama.
And maybe when you're listening to it, I want you to see if you can hear what would have gotten taken out of context from this and perhaps made Mark to seem like not such a great guy on some sleazy websites, all for the benefit of that website getting clicks.
and doing nothing for us.
And so I thought much better for you, the listener, to enjoy this, which I thought was a very funny idea and a good point and some good self-reflection on Mark's part.
I just thought better of putting it in the episode because I know the environment we live in.
Ooh, yeah.
So, okay, here's a couple of things.
I guess I can talk about this because I guess it's sort of a revelation or, you know, it's kind of an embarrassing thing to admit.
I was talking to my pal, Clara O'Kane, the other day.
When she's in town, we sit on the porch and have coffee and discuss the big things.
But I was talking about that movie, A Different Man.
You guys heard my conversation with Sebastian Stan last week.
And, you know, I well, because Claire and I are close, you know, I admit some things.
But we were talking about the lead, the fellow Adam Pearson with the disfigurement.
And and we were talking about also somehow we were talking about the elephant man as well.
She had not seen that.
But I watched A Different Man, and I liked the film a great deal.
And I kind of admitted to Claire that I found Adam Pearson, the character in the film,
But also the person, like, you know, it's great.
You know, he's got this anomaly, this physical anomaly with this disease or fibrosis or whatever it is that sort of distorted his face to such a degree that...
But he was incredibly confident, you know, in the film, he plays an actor.
And I think that I've seen him on bits and pieces of him on talk shows.
And he's, you know, a very together guy, very confident, very talented, in control of his talent.
And, you know, seems to be, you know, very smart and engaged.
And it's a beautiful thing.
But I did find myself resenting his confidence a little bit.
And I'm like, well, what is that?
That seems inhuman.
I mean, where's your empathy?
Why do you find the guy, the actor, with the fairly prominent facial disfigurement, why would you find him annoying?
It felt like I was not allowed to find him annoying as a person.
He's got neurofibrantosis.
And I was like, wow, this guy's kind of cocky.
And I dug into myself, you know, and I realized, like, you know, what could that be about?
I mean, this guy's got, you know, a hell of a challenge here that he's overcome.
And he's, like, transcended it.
To the point where it is not the primary element.
It's not what he's reacting to at every second.
It's just something he lives with and he's moved beyond it as a human being.
That's my take on it.
But yet I'm still like, this guy's a little annoying.
And I'm like, what the?
You're not even allowed to feel that, dude.
So why don't you unpack it?
And I think I had sort of a revelation around that where...
Where I'm like, I think deep down, I'm like, how does this guy sort of transcend something so, you know, physically difficult and I'm sure mentally difficult at some point, but maybe if you have it your whole life, it's not.
But how do you transcend that and just make it secondary?
And I think...
The reason I was getting weird about it is because I just got sort of basic, dumb, parental trauma.
And most of my life in creativity is driven by my reaction to that, that I can't get up over the hump of my kind of basic, dumb, emotional and mental problems.
And this guy is thriving and risen above that.
bodily disfigurement and functions in the world with a certain amount of confidence that I just don't have because I'm hobbled by bullshit, emotional and mental trauma.
So there's a slight resentment there, but there, I just processed it for you in front of you.
I'm not proud of it because I remember when I watched The Elephant Man, I'm like, wow, he's pretty sharp and seems kind of confident.
I must be hard with it.
And I realized, like, there must be some envy.
And it's strange that I have to sort of recognize it in this particular scenario that, like, I am trapped.
Trapped seemingly for life by ongoing reaction in my wiring to how I was raised.
I don't think that's different for many people.
I'm sure there's a lot of us, a lot of you who are listening to this, but I've let it go.
And now I focus on yourself, people.
Focus on yourself.
Whatever you're putting out there in the world is...
judgment or criticism of other people uh maybe you know get in there and figure out where it's coming from so you can be on the level you know seriously it's a little ashamed of myself but i'm glad we uh i'm glad we talked it out yeah i just didn't need a headline saying mark maron says disabled actor is annoying or whatever they would have chosen to do from that uh despite what i thought was a very funny and uh thoughtful point that mark made there
Next up, we have episode 1582 with Joe Boyd.
And I just had to trim down the monologue for the episode.
It's a pretty long interview with Joe Boyd.
And this was kind of counter to the rest of the monologue.
What you're about to hear, you know, Mark is talking about, you know, being kind of an undiscovered person still at this point in his life.
And the rest of the monologue that I left in was Mark talking about how success came to him in his life.
And I just thought it was better to go with that stuff than with this stuff.
I know.
I know because even at my most popular, there are literally billions of people that have no idea who I am.
And now that like I've got these people putting out clips from my entire career on my social media platforms that I don't engage with too much.
I realized that and I always knew this, but it's a little daunting.
that people just have no fucking idea who I am.
And I'm not complaining.
I think it's good.
I think that my legacy will be just hundreds of hours of stuff of all kinds, recorded on video, stand-up mostly, the podcast, and people, for the rest of time,
or human time will be able to be like, who the fuck is this guy?
I know that I do that.
I do that with stuff all the time, especially music where you're like, well, how did I not know about this fucking guy?
Oh, because there's a billion records in the world.
And sadly, there's a billion comics in the world.
But I don't know.
I'm glad this stuff is getting out there, even the old stuff.
Yeah, this is another thing.
You read this Joe Boyd book, you're going to learn about a lot of music you had no fucking idea about.
where it came from, how it evolved, tracking that rhythm.
It's almost like a universal frequency, the source of it all.
And I asked him if this was a search for the grail, and he said no, but discoverable is the thing.
But the weird thing about me, and I always knew this, is that I did probably three or four records
and maybe two specials, three maybe, when I was in relative anonymity.
I wasn't on the radar.
It's arguable.
I mean, it would seem that for a lot of people, I'm still not on the radar, which again, I'm not complaining about.
I don't necessarily understand it, but they never saw that stuff.
It's not like everything gets lost pretty quickly.
And I would do hours and hours of material.
I've done how many hours between the records and the specials?
Probably 12, 13 hours at least of stand-up, of original stand-up on record, on video.
And one of the things that compelled me to keep changing outside of just creative drive is, well, you know, I don't I don't want to disappoint the people that have seen that.
And then you start to realize, like, you know, the ratio of people who have seen and heard and not seen and heard is pretty big.
Leaning in the not seen and heard area.
That's the dominant one.
But it's still I just I still kept driving and a lot of bits I don't even remember.
And it's just funny that, you know, even from a special I did, I don't know, when was it?
It was probably too real.
You know, I did a joke on there that my social media people put up, you know, the alpha pussy bit.
And Joe List, a comic who I have a great deal of respect for, I think is one of the funniest guys.
Joe List, Fahim Anwar, for me, are really the funniest young comics out there doing just the straight stand-up.
And he's like, that's a great bit.
And I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, how can you not have seen that?
I know we don't watch a lot of our... It's not like every comic watches another comic special.
It's just because it's just stuff.
Who's going to keep up with it?
But the idea that that joke, not unlike a song, which is rare, has this life years later, years after the special, years after I ditched the joke, and the only place you can see it, if you didn't see it live years ago, is on that special...
you know, kind of like all of a sudden is in the world in a real way.
It took Instagram to get these bits into the world in a real way because the specials just disappear.
And if they don't perform, they disappear.
They're around, but there's so much stuff around.
So when you kind of, I guess this is just me talking about the benefit of putting these bits out there is that they have a life and thousands and thousands of people never saw this bit.
And it would have just been lost to the churn of time and content and garbage, digital detritus,
And there it was.
And people like seeing it happen with another bit, which is it's not a dubious bit.
But it was a bit I did years ago in 1995 on my HBO half hour about it.
Basically, the premise was it doesn't matter who's president.
They should just want they do it a different way.
Pick presidents like they pick people for for jury duty.
That was the bit.
And I was a bit more nihilistic, not necessarily partisan, just looking to to fucking, you know, blow it up.
But the idea that I said it doesn't matter who was president in 1995, you know, and that clip goes up today and people are like, well, that turned out to be wrong, didn't it?
Why would you put that up now, given what's going on?
You know, it's like, why don't you shut the fuck up?
It's a joke from 1995.
And the beat is the jury duty piece, which is still funny.
But sadly, some poor kid at comics somewhere, I get this DM on Instagram.
It's like, I think there's other guys doing your joke.
And I'm like, I don't care.
I mean, it's like that joke was buried and dead.
But because I put it up, that poor kid's got to spin out, pull down his version of the joke on his social media.
And I reached out to him with my standard of like, we good?
Yeah.
And he's like, dude, I didn't see it.
You know, I'm like, dude, I don't care, man.
It's like parallel thinking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, you know, 25, 30 years apart.
Yeah.
I really didn't care.
I was like, you can keep doing it if you want.
I don't care.
You know, it's not, you know, it's a findable premise for anybody.
It's not like it's about my life.
But I felt bad for that guy because I know that feeling where you see somebody who's doing a joke similar to yours and you're like, fuck.
The spiraling in that moment as a comic.
Not great.
Not great at all.
Not a good feeling.
Okay.
A couple of things from episode 1583 with Al Pacino.
First from the monologue.
I wanted to get to Al Pacino very quickly in this episode.
And especially because I had already cut out the stuff in a previous episode about the tech issues he was having.
I didn't feel it needed to be left here.
And I just, you know, really trimmed the monologue down, get to Al a little faster.
Uh,
How are you doing?
Seriously, what's going on?
Are you getting everything you need to get done done?
I am not, I don't think, because I'm doing too many things.
Are you keeping your fucking shit together?
Are you keeping your mind together?
I think I'm shredding.
I'm shredding on the inside, in my mind.
It's very hard to compartmentalize during this apocalyptic shit show that's just going to build intensity over the next month or so, maybe two months, maybe the rest of time.
I mean, Jesus Christ.
What's going on in the world?
What's going on here?
What's going on in my mind?
I try to keep my mind up to speed with the worst of it all, just to make those fires burn brighter in my brain.
And then you got to figure out, well, how do I keep this at bay?
Do I have the equipment?
Do I have the firefighting skills to manage the burn in my fucking brain?
I guess that's what buying things is about.
I guess that's what eating is about.
I guess that's what getting lost down rabbit holes of kitty cat videos and fucking, you know, old clips of a different time when there were fewer entertainment options and people seem to be the real deal.
Without just being shameless, ambitious, money-grubbing like whores.
Yes, yes, a different time.
I'm not being nostalgic.
I'm just trying to keep my shit together.
I've been fucking around with wires in here, folks.
I don't know what to tell you.
You know, I'm no engineer, and I'm not going to go online to find a guy that's been doing it his whole life to try to balance the mess that I've kind of built around doing this podcast here.
But we had a little glitch here.
Like, Brendan came out here for Tom Sharpling's wedding, and we were recording some stuff, and he's over there on the other mic, and he's wearing the guest cans, the guest headphones, and he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
And I'm like, what, what, what?
And he said, these things sound terrible.
I'm like, what are you talking about?
And I put them on.
And it was just like a distorted mess in the guest headset.
And I'm like, how long has that been going on for?
How could it be possible that no guest has sat across from me and not told me that the fucking headphones were like...
I told you about this, I feel like.
I feel like I told you about this.
But after I tried to fix that and figure out between my mixer and my interface, you know, what was going on, there's been a lot going on here with the sound.
You would think after what?
How long are we doing this?
15 years.
But, you know, shit wears out.
I got this huge mixer that I don't know how to use.
I got this interface that I don't know what it does.
And I got these microphones, and I do know what they do.
But I had these preamps on there, these dynamite preamps on these SM7s.
I know this is thrilling stuff.
And they get wobbly, and they short out.
And my booms, sure, was going to send me some booms, but that hasn't happened.
And my booms, maybe they're on the way.
I got to hold on to them any way I don't know.
And I don't think there's any problem, or there was with the past few episodes, but in terms of a little or anything like that.
But I think I've got it squared away here.
I think we've leveled off.
I bought some new cool-looking little preamps to hook the mics into.
Sounds good in my head.
Sounds good in the guest's head.
But there was a bit of chasing a ghost in several machines here.
Because this stuff is important, man.
This is the small victories.
These are the challenges.
In lieu of being some sort of fitness inspiration or spiritual guide,
Or psychological...
babbler, I can tell you that after a rough week or so, in the wires, in the fucking spiral of tangled wires here, I've arrived where I once was.
And that's a good thing.
Sometimes you just want to get back to where you were when you started.
When it was good.
When things made sense.
I'm here now.
And then there really wasn't anything I needed to cut out of the Al Pacino interview itself.
But, you know, from time to time, you hear me play something that the mics get turned on and Mark and the guest are just talking before the interview itself really starts.
I don't even think this got to be about a minute long of Mark and Al Pacino, but I thought even just under a minute of Al Pacino that you haven't heard before is worth hearing.
You want to sit like that?
Yeah, if you don't mind.
You could hide my face a little.
How's that?
Good?
Perfect.
No one can see your face, just us.
Oh, we're just together.
You want to wear a headset or you don't?
I would rather not, but if you think I have to, I will.
No, I think if you can hear me...
Are you fine?
I got a hearing aid in.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
Does it work?
Somewhat.
They're terrible.
Let's face it.
You don't know this yet.
They're terrible.
Yeah.
You start, you're just sitting with people and you're hearing more on the next table than what's coming at you right there.
Because it amplifies everything.
Yeah, it does.
Okay, next up is something I just cut for time as we were heading into the interview with Robert Zemeckis on episode 1584.
I just realized I couldn't leave this whole thing in.
It's about 10 minutes long.
It would have really bumped up that monologue.
And I also then started to think that it wouldn't have made sense to cut it down.
Kind of the whole story was the point.
And so I've developed a pretty good barometer for knowing that certain things that can get cut out will also come right back into play for you here on The Full Marin.
Look, I'm worked up, you guys.
I'm not sitting quietly in the midst of this hellscape rollercoaster ride.
I can see what's going on.
I can take it in pieces and I can start to put together the pieces.
But it's not necessarily my job here to put those pieces together for you.
I mean, I can get, you know, I mean, and believe me, I'm not saying like, I got it.
I'm not saying that.
But, you know, some days I'm like, oh, OK, well, that's, you know, that's fucked.
Wow, we're fucked.
You know, the everyday assault, I kind of pull out sometimes.
And, okay, well, here's something.
Not about that.
But I don't know how often you listen, but I was talking a couple of weeks ago about the amazing achievement of self-diagnosing my car that was melting down with all the warning lights going on.
Just all of them, you know, parking brake, front collision camera, LDL.
That's cholesterol.
I don't know how cars run, but I'm pretty sure it's not.
It could be a cholesterol issue, but all the lights were on.
So I told you that I thought that I should reboot the computer by unplugging the battery.
So I did that, and it worked.
And I thought, like, amazing.
I'm an amazing guy.
That's just a recap.
And by the way, I got a new boom.
I'm learning how to deal with it.
I'm very used to moving it around.
Because something I didn't tell you about the old boom is that the reason I held it all the time, the reason you heard squeaking was because...
It would just float away from me, and there was nothing I could do to lock it down.
So I was always kind of holding on to it and moving with it, not unlike a stand-up mic.
In conversation, when I'd sort of lunge forward, I'd move the mic with me.
But this one seems better.
I don't know.
It's a little...
You know, the other one was like old school metal in springs.
This is sort of plastic.
But it sure sent it to me.
And I think it's going to do the job.
It's going to hold it still.
Gives me more sight line to the guest.
Anyways, I'm getting off the point.
The point is my car melted down again.
And then it just leveled off on just the engine light being on.
I'm like, all right, well, fuck.
I could reboot the computer, but I need a tune-up anyways.
So I'll bring it in.
I'll bring it in.
And despite what everyone tells me, and I know it to be true, you know, people are like, don't bring it to the dealer, bring it to a guy.
Well, I don't really have a guy.
I might have a guy, but that guy, you know, sometimes it takes a lot of time.
The one thing I know about the dealer is I'll bring it in, and if they got the shit on hand, they'll fix it.
But I just like to be in and out and I need to tune up and I like being serviced at Toyota with my Toyota.
So I bring it in and I tell them about the engine light, parking light, collision camera light, LDL numbers.
And I show them a video I took of it.
So they do the tune up and whatever it is, you know, the what is it?
The regular service.
And then the guy calls me.
He's like, well, you know, we ran diagnostics on it.
Turns out one of your coils isn't firing properly.
You're going to need a new spark plug.
And I'm like, all right.
Now, look, I'm not rich, filthy rich, but I have money enough to just be like, just fucking fix it.
But the thing is, and I don't know if this is a testament to my personality or just the way I was brought up with cars.
I know the dealer is going to fuck me in a way, but I also know it's going to get done.
And if I want to make a stink about it, I can make a stink about it.
But I know that going in, but I just want it to be done.
So he's like, it needs a spark plug and a coil.
I'm like, all right, well, fuck it.
Let's just do it.
He goes, well, you know, this is probably going to happen to all of them eventually.
I'm like, what does that mean, dude?
Like, well, you could replace the one for this amount of reasonable amount of money, or we could replace all six for a totally, seemingly unreasonable amount of money with a huge markup.
And I'm like, well, is that the thing to do?
He's like, well, I mean, you can do the one.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, he was surprised that he already had me.
And I'm like, well, just do it.
You know, just do it.
And he's like, $1,600, whatever it is.
A lot of money.
And I'm like, just do the whole thing.
Just fix the car so I don't have to worry about the car.
And I want it back in a couple hours.
Okay.
He's like, then he knew he had me.
It was funny because I think he was surprised.
And then there was that moment where all of a sudden the basic pitch comes.
You know, this is the work that, you know, should be done.
I could have just got one plug, but I got new plugs, new coils, whatever.
I don't even know what that means.
But then he sort of, oh, you know, kind of this shift and like, oh, you probably should do the filter.
See, once they get to the air filters, whatever the fuck they do or wherever the fuck they are, how often they really need to be replaced.
That's the core of the racket.
Like you get the tune up.
Here's how much that costs.
But the filter doesn't look good.
The one of the two air filters are both air filters.
I'm like, how often could you need air filters?
I mean, I know I changed my air conditioner one, but that's going all the fucking time.
And I do that every few months.
But whatever.
I know the filters is like that's the low ball racket.
And I'm like, yeah, put the fucking filters in.
Yeah, but do it all.
Put the filters in.
And he's like, there's a nail in your tire.
I'm like, do you have the tire?
He's like, yeah.
He's like, you could go to a tire place and get a plug.
I'm like, do you have the tire?
Just put the fucking tire on.
Like at that point, I just, I didn't give a fuck.
And there's no victory to this.
I don't like to haggle and I don't like to fuck around.
And I think like you do all this stuff to my car that you said you're going to do for this ridiculous amount of money.
And I'm not going to have to worry about the car for a while.
And it's going to drive amazing.
This sounds great.
New tires, new filters, new plugs.
And you checked everything out.
It's going to it's I'm going to get into that car and I'm going to be like, holy shit.
This is like a new fucking car.
That's what your heart wants to believe.
I'm going to feel it.
All this work that I paid too much money for.
But like it must have been the big day over there.
I must have been sucker of the fucking day.
Because I get a call from him.
I texted him like, am I going to get it by four, you know?
I get a text from him and he's like, yeah, yeah.
And then he calls me.
He goes, hey, not only is our head technician working on it, but the other guy is too.
Okay.
So you got the main guy and the other guy.
Both these rocket scientists over there at Toyota on brand are doing it.
But it was such a thing like, I'm supposed to be like, wow, this is some...
This is top notch.
I've got, you know, I've got like the the German physicists, you know, cracking the code over there to fucking get my car going.
So it's fine.
You know, it's I've been going to there.
I've been going for years.
The guy Dave did, you know, he's good service guy.
They do all this stuff.
I look at how much it costs.
I'm like, all right, well, I'm going to I'm going to give this money to them and then I'm just going to forget about it.
But I don't because not unlike anything in your life in terms of value.
You know, I'm not saying they didn't do a good job either.
They did a good job.
And it was it's a it's a great Toyota dealership, that brand Toyota here in Glendale.
I'm not knocking them at all, you know, because I've you know, I've been bringing my cars there for years.
And it's just it is what it is.
And the service was great.
But the bottom line, after you spend that kind of bread on new coils, you know, new plugs, you know, high-end, top-notch, main guy, diagnostics, filters, tire, whatever else, you know, when I pick up that car...
I want to feel it.
I want to get in and go, wow.
Wow.
What a fucking difference.
This thing is driving so good.
And how often does that happen?
Seriously.
You want to believe you want to feel it.
Do you want that car?
You just want to be like, oh my God, did I make the right choice with that service in this car?
And Jesus, this is fucking beautiful.
This Avalon is driving like a goddamn Bentley.
How often does that happen?
Almost never.
I got the car.
I paid the bill.
I got in and I'm driving.
I'm like, yeah, I kind of, man, that was a good call on replacing those filters.
I had no idea they were hobbling this automobile's ability to drive perfectly.
I felt nothing, nothing, no difference.
And I just have to sort of
kind of live with just the knowledge that, you know, everything is good enough for the car to keep going the way it was, which wasn't bad.
But you do want, you want that little, that little hit, that little dopamine hit, you know, just like, wow, holy shit.
This is like flying a jet.
All right, here's a chunk I cut out of the conversation with Keith Urban on episode 1585.
And this was gear talk.
There's a very specific audience for this stuff about mics and amps.
And especially if it comes early in the conversation, you don't want to be alienating to people.
You don't want them to think, what did I do?
I just stumbled upon a bunch of gear heads.
So no, I cut this out, but here it is for you.
So eventually maybe you're... Hold on a minute.
I just ordered these new things for these.
What kind of mics do the pros use, Mark?
Well, these are pretty standard SM7s, man.
I'm a big believer.
No, but it's true.
I'm locked into the Shure SM7.
Great vocal mic.
And then the 58s.
Is that an ad?
Yeah.
They're sending me shit.
Yeah, I always go with the SM7s.
I think I've sold more SM7s to podcasters.
It's one of my favorite mics, in all honesty, and I do lots of recorded vocals on these guys.
On the SM7s?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I hold it in the studio and sing in the studio.
No, it's a great vocal mic.
Yeah, it's a great vocal mic.
I imagine you've moved on from the 58s on stage, right?
Well...
What have we got right now?
Well, it's all wireless anyway.
Yeah, I can't.
So it's a different beast.
But I did a tour with these as my main vocal mics on stage.
No shit?
Yeah.
Does Shure know that?
Probably back in the day.
And they looked great and sounded great, but apparently no one in the front could see my face.
Big mics.
Yeah, and then I was told I got the SM57 or the Shure 57 to mic the amp because sometimes I just dick around at the end of the show.
I do it all the time.
Look at that amp I got, Keith.
I'm looking at all your amps.
It's like amp porn.
Yeah, well, I mean, this is like, you know, like, I'm not a collector.
Do you explain to everybody listening what these amps are?
Because it does sound cruel to say this.
Well, I think what I was doing, and maybe you can relate to it.
Like, look, I'm not a serious musician.
But, you know, I do enjoy playing.
And I have been playing out with some guys.
So, you know, I do have a reason.
Like, I don't want to be one of these kind of, like, strange, you know, boomer collectors.
These fucking guys that are buying up every fucking cool guitar in the world so no one can have it.
I'm not like that.
I try to get my guitars for free.
I'm trying to, and I have, I figured out a way, and I'm trying to get rid of them.
But I think this was a quest for a tone.
Like what you're seeing there, like I bought, that was the first amp I spent money on, that 53 Deluxe.
Right, okay.
Oh, it's a 53.
Yeah.
Wow.
And I bought the Champ, which is from the 70s at the same time, which is a specific thing.
I don't use it a lot.
And then some guy, a fan of mine, just sent me this 61 Princeton.
That's a great fucking amp.
Absolutely beautiful.
But that thing, that came out of nowhere, dude, a few weeks ago.
I just got this.
Is it a deluxe?
What is that thing?
It's a deluxe big box.
They barely made them.
I hear it's a rare amp, and it came.
That is a 61.
Look at that.
It's never been fucked with.
Wow.
It was preserved under the cover, which I have.
Some guy fucking got a hold of that in Portland, Oregon.
And my buddy Mike said, this guy's got this amp.
And I'm like, I want it.
I don't give a shit.
I'll pay for it.
That's like a 61 amp.
Nothing been fucked with.
Yeah, I guess GE Smith plays these.
I think Young has a version of this, this deluxe big box.
Bulletproof amp.
Well, I don't use any effects because they're too confusing for me.
I'm just trying to figure out how to use that fucking looper.
Do you just turn it in and dime it?
What do you do?
What do you mean dime it?
Like just turn it all the way up?
I do that with the 53.
Yeah.
But with the 61, dude, the guy who sold it to me sent me GE Smith settings, and it's only on a 3.
Wow.
And it's fucking beautiful.
Yeah.
OK, and this is a little opening mic talk with Robert Patrick from episode 1586.
And even before the mics were turned on, Robert was talking with Mark about how Eric Roberts had just been in there.
I think, you know, Robert Patrick wanted to do as good a job as Eric did.
He's going to compare himself to Eric's episode.
And so when you hear him mention the name Eric, that's who he's talking about.
But this is the nicer life.
Hey, man, this is cool.
I love your neighborhood.
It's nice, right, Glendale?
Yeah.
You've been here before?
You're six miles from me.
Right?
Oh, you're in the valley?
No, I live in the Hollywood Hills.
Oh, yeah?
I'm on Mulholland.
Oh, nice.
I came down out of Mulholland.
Oh, on the Harley?
On the Harley.
Hey, what's... This is my mode of transportation.
That's what I ride around on.
So I've been listening to you.
My wife's impressed with you.
She says...
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, she's a fan of the show.
She said, yeah, she's a fan of yours.
Oh, that's nice.
She wanted to come, but she's...
She's volunteering at Guide Dogs of America.
Oh, that's nice.
Is she an animal person?
She's a, yeah, oh yeah.
That's a hard one, that squeezy thing.
Guide Dogs of America.
That's where we get our dogs, and she volunteers there.
What do they do?
The dogs we get, oh, what does she do?
Well, I mean, what is the... Guide Dogs are for blind people.
Right, yeah, right, Guide Dogs.
Blind people, we also, they have comfort dogs.
You want to wear cans?
Do I want to wear cans?
What did Eric do?
I can't remember if he didn't want to fuck up his hair or not.
Oh, really?
My hair's already pre-fucked up.
It shows up properly.
I don't remember.
All right, finally, a little thing to wrap up here from episode 1587.
That was the one with Billy Corbin.
And this was just some vegan soul searching Mark was going through.
And as you'll hear at the end, those words that ring out like a bell for me when Mark identifies the fact that he's rambling, I always know this is something that's probably not going to make it into the episode.
Should I still be a vegan?
I'm not thinking about not being a vegan, but I really think like sometimes it's like I don't even want fish and I don't really want meat.
I'm not I'm not missing anything, but I'm just wondering, would it be better to eat some canned mackerel occasionally?
Would it be better to have a tin of sardines every once in a while?
Would it be better to occasionally have a nice piece of lean meat or an egg or
I don't know.
I'm not making any – I'm not moving in that direction.
I don't feel any different.
I feel fine.
But I just – for some reason, it's like I think most meat is pretty dirty and pretty, you know, fucked up in some ways just because of environmental stuff.
I'm sure there's clean meat around.
But for some reason, when I get a craving –
It's usually for tinned fish.
Is that weird?
Is that a Jewish thing?
Is that my Belarusian Ashkenazic deep primal cravings just for some, maybe a nice kipper, maybe a nice sardine, perhaps some canned mackerel, maybe some smoked chubs, maybe, I don't know.
But you can chime in on this.
I'm fine.
I'm probably going to have a Beyond Burger because I've defrosted them and I don't want them to go bad.
And I know they're not great either, but I don't know.
I'm okay.
Everything's fine.
Now I'm just rambling.
Now I am just rambling about tinned fish.
This is how we keep our brains healthy.
just thinking about stuff in a focused way that doesn't cause us extreme anxiety, anger, or just spiraling, just spiraling.
All right.
Those are the producer cuts from the month of October.
November's got a batch that's coming up for you and we'll hear those in a few weeks and that'll be the end of the year.
Then we'll be on to new stuff in 2025.
And I hope you stick with us here on the full Marin.
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