BONUS The Friday Show - Do We Have Your Attention?
Guest:Are there movies or other topics on which you really disagree with each other?
Guest:And if you do, do you find it difficult to agree to disagree?
Guest:Well, to answer that last part, I think you just go back to the beginning of the episode and you can see no.
Guest:No.
Marc:Hey, Chris.
Guest:Brendan, you saw Interstellar.
Guest:I did.
Guest:Not the first thing I wanted to talk about, for sure.
Guest:Why not?
Marc:I mean, it was fine.
Marc:I didn't love it, and I don't have much to say about it.
Marc:Oh, man.
Marc:I'm so bummed you didn't love it, but it was a spectacle, right?
Marc:Sure.
Marc:Come on.
Guest:Yeah, it was it was totally a fine time at the movies.
Guest:I would have been fine watching it at home, especially since it existed for 10 years and I could have watched it at any time.
Guest:Fair, fair.
Guest:I would put it I would put it dead last of Christopher Nolan movies.
Guest:Oh, that's so wrong of you.
Marc:No way.
Guest:What would be dead last?
Guest:What's worse than that?
Guest:I guess maybe Insomnia is not as good as this.
Marc:Yes, that one is definitely the last.
Marc:I mean, following is fine for like a student project, basically.
Marc:Yeah, I've never even seen it.
Marc:Yeah, I think I own that movie.
Marc:Yeah, no, that one, those two are my last.
Marc:But no, Interstellar is like top tier for me.
Marc:Anyway, what did you want to talk about first thing?
Guest:I know you're just champing at the bit here.
Guest:That's why I can't believe you brought up Interstellar.
Guest:We're wasting time.
Guest:We're wasting valuable time talking about that.
Guest:And I know all you want to talk about is Superman.
Guest:Like you're like, you're basically, why are we even talking about anything else?
Guest:Like you just want to talk about Superman for two hours.
Marc:Listen,
Marc:Superman is A, the best, but B, that trailer fucking slaps, man.
Marc:Like, there has never been a bad Superman movie, and this trailer will hopefully lead us to another great Superman movie.
Guest:I love that.
Guest:There's never been a Superman movie in a world where a Superman movie made by Canon Films exists.
Marc:I think about that movie all the time.
Marc:When Superman's scratched by Nuclear Man and he's sweating and has the flu, I think about that when I have the flu, when I'm sweating.
Marc:It's the best.
Guest:Well, we, we, we, we're going to get into questions and comments and topics from our listeners, uh, later in this, in this episode, but, uh, it's a good time to bring this up and not save it for later is that, uh, Todd wrote in and said, I was delighted to hear that Chris is a fan of comics and specifically of woman of tomorrow by Tom King and Bilquis Evely.
Guest:Uh, not as a, what is it?
Guest:A super girl, uh,
Guest:issue it's a supergirl series of books that they made a graphic novel for i got it and he said many reviewers have noted the inspiration true grit provided for the story and king himself has admitted as much so you you identified that they seemed similar yes that's awesome to hear very
Guest:It was delightful to hear Chris discussing it on the show.
Guest:When you love stuff that's very niche, it's always fun to find a kindred spirit in an unexpected place.
Guest:Hey, that's what we're all about here.
Marc:We like unexpected stuff.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And unexpectedly, I really enjoyed this Bobby Althoff.
Marc:But I want to know how you liked it because Mark texted you and he was like, you're going to like this one.
Marc:So did you like this one?
Guest:I did like it, but I have a lot to say about it.
Guest:So in order to do that, why don't we get your feedback on it?
Guest:Because you enjoyed it, you're saying.
Marc:I thought it was interesting because in this new age of celebrity and not even celebrity, just like people trying to grind it out and...
Marc:make money like which is basically her whole like you know and honestly all of you know most people's goal is to make the most money like how they do it and like what the process is it's it's it's it was a fascinating talk that way yeah well especially because I didn't I don't think that was always everybody's goal
Guest:What, making the most money they can?
Guest:Right.
Guest:I think there are many generations on this planet where people are like, I know exactly what fine is, and I'm going to aim for fine.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah, that's true.
Marc:You wouldn't see Andy Kaufman doing, you know, just...
Marc:Any old thing, I suppose.
Guest:Or your dad or your grandparents or anybody who just relied on their job to get them through, to get them to a point where they had retirement savings or a pension.
Guest:And that was their life.
Guest:But before I get further into it, let me ask you this.
Guest:Was there anything about it that was like...
Marc:surprising to you like what what would your general reaction like when you when you listen to it first of all i don't i i know this woman from like clips i see on social media right but i can never tell like how old the clips are because they just show up on my feed like i don't subscribe or anything so it's like a lot of the time it's like um it's kind of like i'm out on that wave planet in interstellar i'm gonna bring back back here look oh my god it's
Guest:This is like the guy who's only seen one movie and it's interstellar.
Guest:Man, I'm getting a lot of interstellar vibes from this Bobby Althoff.
Marc:I'm going to make it work.
Marc:So I'm like one hour on that planet seven years, right, back on Earth.
Marc:And so I'm going about my day working, cooking, playing with my cats.
Marc:And then I get to my phone, the space station orbiting the wave planet.
Marc:And there's just all this fucking content on my phone that I'm just sifting through.
Marc:And so much has happened.
Marc:And sometimes it's great.
Marc:Other times I do feel like Coop just crying at the sight of his kid growing up to be Casey Affleck.
Marc:But she's just there on my phone.
Marc:So that's how I know of this person.
Marc:But yeah, I found it great.
Marc:to be an unapologetic interview.
Marc:Like she is unapologetically herself, you know?
Marc:Like she's not trying to say she's an artist.
Marc:She is a capitalist trying to make the most money.
Marc:Yeah, it just happens to be in the entertainment framework.
Marc:Yes, absolutely.
Marc:So I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Marc:And I think, you know, I don't think Mark's ever talked to someone like this.
Marc:So it was a kind of, you know, it was a great talk to this alien world, you know.
Marc:Also, she was the one that was late.
Marc:Right.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:From, from our previous conversation.
Marc:Yes.
Guest:And like, that's why Mark was like initially like ready to blow his top.
Marc:Right.
Guest:Because he was like, this person's fucking with me.
Guest:They're trying to show up the old man, you know?
Guest:And like, cause he's just so paranoid with this stuff.
But,
Guest:And as she explained, she just totally got the time wrong, which we knew at the time.
Guest:But we've been circling something like this for a long time in the sense that, you know, Mark is always and he says it on the show.
Guest:He's like, what are these things?
Guest:I just see these reels after reels of like guys sitting around microphones talking about farting.
Guest:And it's just like he's been trying to understand like what happened out there.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And it is kind of like, you know, if not interstellar, but like also like Rip Van Winkle, right?
Guest:Like I fell asleep and I woke up and the world had changed, right?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And the way I looked at all of this before we even like landed on Bobby Althoff was...
Guest:This was a world that we're completely on the outside of.
Guest:We don't do any video.
Guest:We barely touch social media or anything.
Guest:But we inhabited a world like it at one time.
Guest:The current world is just so much different.
Guest:And by the world, I mean like the media landscape, right?
Guest:Right.
Guest:And it's just so, so much different than the one our show came up in.
Guest:It might as well be the difference between like, you know, radio versus, you know, current streaming.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Like that's the gulf.
Guest:Like people used to listen to like, you know, Little Orphan Annie on the radio versus now you stream Squid Games.
Guest:Like that seems how different it is.
Marc:One could say you're on two different planets like Coop trying to find the other planet where, what's his name, Matt Damon was on.
Guest:Well, let me do a slingshot around the black hole to come back to Earth here.
Guest:There we go.
Guest:Because there's a weird thing about it where it doesn't feel totally removed, right?
Guest:Like some of the trappings are the same.
Guest:Like even her show, which is just video that she talks about how all she's aiming for is, can I cut these down to 30 seconds or whatever, right?
Guest:Right.
Guest:They call it a podcast.
Guest:And she was saying like, yeah, well, I thought we would be podcasting where we sit and we talk on like she thinks podcast means people on YouTube talking on microphones, not this thing on the on on the podcast button in your iPhone.
Guest:And so it's like there are similar trappings, but everything feels miles away from each other.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And like I said, Mark's been like, he's talking about it for months.
Guest:He's mostly been trying to get his head around it.
Guest:Like he would bring it up and he'd say, I see all these things on Instagram stories and TikToks and these clips.
Guest:And what is this?
Guest:What?
Guest:And.
Guest:I knew at some point it would make sense for him to speak with one of the people in that world.
Guest:And really any of them just to be like, what would you say you are?
Guest:Like, what are you?
Guest:And I mean that in like a nonsense.
Guest:nonjudgmental way.
Guest:Why just honestly wondering what is the vision of the people in this situation?
Guest:Why are they doing it?
Guest:Like, and are they just all flying by the seat of their pants?
Guest:Are they trying to game the system?
Guest:Is this like meme stocks, right?
Guest:Is this like those, those GameStop stories or things like that?
Guest:Is it all just fame and,
Guest:And what is fame to them?
Guest:And so, like, Bobby seemed like a safe person to do this with because, A, she had a bit of a backstory.
Guest:Like, we looked into it and was like, okay, like, this thing about, you know...
Guest:basically her becoming a young mom and kind of panicking about that and being like, I need to make fucking money on the internet.
Guest:And she also doesn't seem like her shtick is toxic.
Guest:There were other comedians involved.
Guest:Like that was a way it could get to Mark's radar to be like, Hey, look, Bobby Lee did this and blah, blah, blah.
Guest:Of course that made Mark jealous and be like, why is Bobby doing this?
Guest:Not me.
Guest:Naturally.
Guest:But so when it actually happened,
Guest:And I think Mark kind of was well prepped for it.
Guest:Like, I don't think he was, I think he, your reaction to feeling like you got something out of this, I think was because he, he got it going in.
Guest:Like he understood why it was a conversation to have versus, you know, you know, he wasn't trying to do a typical WTF thing.
Guest:He was really more about like asking questions.
Guest:What is this?
Guest:Right.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And to me, I thought the talk was satisfying because it made me feel like I've been on the right track with all this stuff.
Guest:And what I mean by that is something you said earlier that I have felt in my soul is absolutely true, is that...
Guest:Fame is no longer about celebrity to people under, let's generalize and say like under 30, like this younger generation.
Guest:Fame is about economics.
Guest:It's about getting the bag, right?
Guest:It's Mr. Beast who is famous because he was able to get a lot of people to view his YouTube stuff.
Guest:And now he's a millionaire.
Guest:And part of him being a millionaire is he runs around and throws that money around.
Guest:And you as a viewer can be part of it.
Guest:Oh, maybe I'll get some of that Mr. Beast money or whatever.
Guest:And his brand is just all about being this weirdo who made money.
Guest:Right.
Guest:It's like it's unadulterated capitalism.
Guest:Like it's right.
Guest:It's like capitalism in human form.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:And going back to my biases and my like priors.
Guest:I see happening in young people like people under 30.
Guest:They don't see any hope in systems anymore.
Guest:The type of systems that kind of pushed previous generations through, you know, the aging process.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And they're the generation that sees no material gains from the examples set forth by previous generations.
Guest:Right.
Guest:The way a lot of us did and people older than us, they saw pensions, mortgages, job security.
Guest:Right.
Guest:That's gone.
Guest:And I think like the the the millennial generation is the last generation to they're not going to get a piece of that.
Guest:But they saw it.
Guest:Right.
Guest:There's like an illusion of it for them, at least because they're like, well, my dad and my grandpa, like they they got crazy.
Guest:pensions or at least 401ks or something like that.
Guest:And they bought houses and that the generation younger than the millennials, they're like, that's, are you crazy?
Guest:That's over.
Guest:I'm never going to own a house.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So in a way, like turning fame into business for its own sake is kind of a life hack for them.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And that's the fascinating part to me.
Guest:It's almost survival, though.
Guest:It's like part of it is like it's fascinating and it's like industrious, but it's also completely depressing.
Guest:Right.
Guest:That it's like they sell their souls.
Guest:Yeah, you can't just go get a job and be like, this is what I'm going to do as a career now.
Guest:It's like, no, you got to like figure out what your hustle is and then do it until you like you exhaust the possibilities of it.
Guest:You just have to try to prime as much money and and aim for this lotto ticket, which is what Bobby hit.
Guest:She hit a thing that worked and it made her lots of money, but that might go away in an instant.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And I keep thinking of two things.
Guest:One is that Time Magazine cover from 2006 that everyone ridiculed at the time.
Guest:Do you remember the one that was- The mirror?
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Person of the year.
Guest:And it was you.
Guest:And it had a little shitty mirror on it.
Yeah.
Guest:That was actually very prescient, you know, because here's another one of my priors.
Guest:And that's what like this, this Bobby Althoff interview helped confirm it is that I believe that attention is the only true commodity left that everyone can get in on.
Guest:Like eyeballs are basically crude oil.
Guest:And to get that attention and capitalize on it, you have to live at a certain frequency.
Guest:You have to shut down a good deal of human stuff.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And then just kind of monomaniacally focus on getting the bag and you have to stay at that frequency.
Guest:And I think the best representation that I can think of off the top of my head of where you've seen this in like a film or anything popular culture is the Wolf of Wall Street.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Like the product is different, but the methods are the same.
Guest:And I feel like penny stocks from that movie are a very good metaphor for now because everything is just penny stocks.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Likes.
Guest:followers, all of it.
Guest:Everyone in your audience is a sucker to be had.
Guest:And, and Bobby even admitted that like she had like, she clearly hates the people watching her stuff.
Guest:She fucking hates them.
Guest:She hates the fact that then they shit on her online and she got to deal with that presence in the world.
Guest:It was just, her contempt was blatant.
Guest:And yet like, she's got to go, go, go, go.
Guest:But,
Guest:She's barely hanging on and she knows it and she's open about that.
Guest:But like the reality is, I'm sure she made like at a minimum half a million dollars last year, bare minimum, probably much more than that.
Guest:But that's that's circling like what I know, like a minimally successful YouTuber can make and then kind of like inflating it a little bit.
Guest:She made at a minimum half a million dollars last year.
Guest:And yet she's always terrified.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And that's because they know that this is a short shelf life grift.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And they've just got to grab the money like they're in the money booth.
Guest:Like, you know, the money booth at the, on the boardwalk.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:You know, you get in and it's over 60 minutes, 60 seconds.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:got to grab as much as you can.
Guest:Right.
Guest:That's what you're all living through.
Guest:And there was this crazy survey last month that, um, you know, it was, was put out by, by, you know, an economics agency, but all the papers picked it up and it was just real.
Guest:It was asking the different generations, how much money do you need to make annually to be considered successful?
Guest:Um,
Guest:And so the boomers said just under $100,000.
Guest:So it was like 99,000 something.
Guest:Gen Xers said $212,000.
Guest:This is to be considered successful, right?
Guest:Millennials said $180,000.
Guest:That's interesting.
Guest:It like went the other way, right?
Guest:Like they think you need less than a Gen Xer, right?
Guest:Gen Z.
Guest:thinks you need $588,000 per year to be successful.
Guest:Oh boy.
Guest:Over a half a million dollars, almost $600,000.
Guest:They think that's what you need to make every year because they're watching people basically fake their wealth and do like what, like flaunt their wealth.
Marc:Exactly.
Guest:Flaunt this thing in a very concentrated way because they have to get it out there immediately.
Guest:perception is the you know nine tenths of it all totally totally so that brings me to the other thing that this episode made me think of and that is war games
Guest:Do you remember the movie War Games with Matthew Broderick?
Guest:A little bit.
Guest:It wasn't my favorite.
Guest:OK, well, so for those of you who have not seen it and to refresh your memory, Chris, essentially, he is a kid.
Guest:He's a high school senior, I think.
Guest:And he is like good at computer hacking in the way that like a kid in 1983 would be good at it.
Marc:Floppy disks and whatnot.
Guest:Exactly.
Guest:He thinks he's changing his grades in school and stuff like that.
Guest:And he wants something a little more challenging.
Guest:So he breaks into a very encrypted computer, which he doesn't know at the time is the computer for NORAD.
Guest:And this computer and its artificial intelligence that he starts communicating with almost starts World War III.
Guest:Right.
Marc:But he stops it with like tic-tac-toe or something.
Marc:Correct.
Marc:Yes.
Guest:So because the ending is they have to figure out how to make the computer understand mutually assured destruction.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And no win scenarios.
Guest:And so obviously this whole thing was it's not even he can't even call it a parable because it's it was in the Cold War.
Guest:Like it would be a parable if you made it now.
Guest:Right.
Guest:But it's like, this was just straight up like Cold War messaging around nuclear disarmament, right?
Guest:Like, don't do this shit.
Guest:And there was nothing ambiguous about it.
Guest:It was not a metaphor.
Guest:But I do feel like if you were to watch it today, it serves as a good representation of how we all have opted into this mind fuckery.
Guest:And instead of an arms race, it's an eyeballs race.
Guest:And there is no winning.
Guest:And if anyone has seen the movie, you will remember the ending.
Guest:The computer runs through all the possible simulations of a nuclear launch as it's about to launch nukes to start World War III.
Guest:And it concludes, thanks to them planting the idea in them with the tic-tac-toe, that there is no way to win.
Guest:All of the simulation occurrences come back, no win, no win, no win.
Guest:And the computer comes right out and says it.
Guest:the only winning move is not to play.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And so I hope it was my hope ahead of time.
Guest:And it was definitely my hope after the episode that maybe people will listen to it and consider it our war games.
Marc:I like that.
Marc:But I'm going to make this analogy 2024.
Marc:This podcast, this Bobby, is basically the movie The Substance that came out with Demi Moore.
Marc:And I know you haven't seen it, but it's basically you're just like injecting or extracting your life into
Marc:And you're putting it out there for everyone.
Marc:And there's only so much that there is out there until you're just sucked dry.
Marc:So, yeah, that is fame nowadays.
Guest:I mean, the most egregious...
Guest:Another example of this was something I saw in the news last week that this OnlyFans woman did a thing where she was like, I'm going to have sex with 100 men in a row.
Guest:Oh.
Guest:And did it and was like...
Guest:traumatized like and that it's like she then is sharing the trauma of it and it's like well what the fuck like this is like we are we are very close like this would be in like a philip k dick story or something like this is like dystopian sci-fi right right that this is where we're at with it and i'm like please i'm not getting you know connecting that with bobby althoff i'm not saying it's one in the same but i am saying it's like this stuff is corrosive to the soul yeah and like
Guest:Mark is working through his particular side of that.
Guest:Like he does the same thing.
Guest:It's just in a different way.
Guest:And like, you have to do edge up against that and go like, am I, am I, am I playing?
Guest:Am I playing the game that has no winners?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:you know?
Marc:Right.
Marc:Or, and are you just tapping into your soul?
Marc:Cause that's the thing with this person, this Bobby and like that only fans person who I've only saw the headline and I was like, I don't need to see that.
Marc:Exactly.
Marc:It was like horrifying.
Marc:Just even like the one thing I'm like, how did that even become a headline?
Marc:Right.
Marc:But like, like the, at the end of the day when the cameras are off or your phone is down, like,
Marc:They're just by themselves.
Marc:Like they have to be with themselves.
Marc:And I don't know how like comfortable they are or how much they have left to give to themselves.
Marc:You know, it's a stark future that we're barreling towards, honestly.
Guest:Well, I thought it was very interesting, though, that the bonus episode I put up this week was the third Mark and Tom, where they were like, this was 11 years ago.
Guest:And the two of them were like, when do we get to just opt out of all of this?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And like Mark's like, I'm never going to have a TV show or anything.
Marc:That year he had a TV show.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:But yeah.
Marc:And I loved his number.
Marc:Five million.
Marc:That's the number, man.
Marc:That's the number I can get to.
Guest:Well, it's also it's like it's just like that that was the number.
Guest:But that number, like the numbers change, like the life changes, the world changes, you know?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah, absolutely.
Marc:Fascinating stuff.
Marc:I love that Mark hates karaoke.
Marc:And I liked Tom being like, what do you mean?
Marc:You have a microphone all the time.
Marc:Like, what's your problem with it?
Marc:And I got to agree.
Marc:I think when people, most of the time, at least in my life, when I go up and do karaoke, I'm just thumbing through a book and being like, all right, I can sing that song.
Marc:But some people, like our buddy Matt Singer or you, you guys have like whole acts.
Marc:Standards, yeah.
Marc:Yeah, standards that you guys can like perform as if it's a Broadway musical.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Mark was talking to like the guy that does that.
Guest:Like Tom, Tom is like a legendary karaoke-er.
Guest:No kidding.
Guest:Oh yeah.
Guest:He does it on the show.
Guest:Like he would, like when they have like, you know, the best show Christmas party or something, he'll bust out, uh, uh, what's the Kelly Clarkson song?
Guest:Since You Begunned?
Guest:No, Breakaway.
Guest:Breakaway?
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Wow.
Guest:That's his, that's his big, that's his big karaoke song.
Guest:yeah you know i i mark has said he says that all the time about the karaoke and that and i think it's like i've you know gotten to know him enough over 20 years i think it's just jealousy he he sees somebody doing that and he's like fuck you what makes you so fucking confident why do you think you can fucking get up there and half-assedly sing not great and feel good about yourself like that's all it is
Guest:also like the spotlight people are looking at them maybe maybe i mean he's like you know i've watched mark watch other comics who are getting over and if he thinks they're funny he's not like jealous of them okay like he's jealous of comics who he thinks are not good and he watches them get over and he's like fuck that they did that hack shit you know right but
Guest:like I think his problem watching somebody get up there and do like, and have a good time doing karaoke is that he's like, God damn it.
Guest:Why can't I do that?
Guest:Like I'm a, I'm petrified of doing that.
Guest:When this fucking guy get the confidence to do it.
Marc:Totally.
Marc:So Mark interviewed Justin Kerzel, who directed him in that movie he was in.
Marc:The Order, yeah.
Marc:This guy made an Assassin's Creed movie, like a video game?
Guest:Yes, with Michael Fassbender.
Guest:And it did not do well.
Marc:Oh, bummer, man.
Marc:When Mark mentioned that, I was like, wow, he's talking to a video game movie director.
Marc:Fascinating.
Guest:But I get the sense from this guy, Kerzel, that he just takes these things.
Guest:I think he thinks this movie, The Order, he's like, oh, that's going to be my police procedural movie.
Guest:And then this other thing, this is going to be my blockbuster video game movie and whatnot.
Guest:Because otherwise, he's making all these movies about murderers and...
Guest:Seriously.
Guest:School shooters and everything.
Guest:It's like, yeah, this ain't going to work out.
Marc:That snow town I had no idea about.
Marc:I went to the Wikipedia and it just sounds awful.
Marc:But like the entire corrupt town that's filled with pedophiles and like, you know, people are killing, I guess, killing pedophiles.
Marc:Like it sounds like Rambo.
Guest:yeah i guess i bet it's probably like i mean but it's also it's like very it seems to me it seems very australian like it's like yeah yeah things are dark down there yeah some weird shit there's just roadkill all the time apparently yeah i like like he had to clarify that about he's like well well we don't know that he killed the kangaroo it could have already been dead you know and mark was like how many fucking dead kangaroos are there and he was basically like lots and lots of them holy shit
Marc:Also, Nicholas Holtz in this movie of his.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:Another Lex Luthor.
Marc:Another Lex fucking Luthor.
Marc:I love that.
Marc:You guys have to have a Lex convention one of these days.
Guest:A Lex convention that Mark does not even remember he's a part of.
Marc:He's like, oh, right, right, that guy.
Guest:Well, that's a good place to go into our listener comments and topics and questions.
Guest:And someone sent this in.
Guest:I thought it was a good one to tee off right away.
Guest:Someone sent this in.
Guest:I thought it was a good place to just tee us off here.
Guest:This person said, we know who Mark's guys are, but who are your guys?
Guest:And then they added Beyond, Weird Al, Zep, and Tarantino.
Guest:So like, yeah, Chris, if you were in the garage with Mark and he gave you the old, who are your guys?
Guest:Who would you hit him back with?
Guest:Like we're talking musically?
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:It's whatever you like.
Guest:I think that's the beauty of the question.
Guest:It's why it's endured because it's anything is who are your guys?
Marc:I'd say Superman is one of my guys.
Guest:Absolutely.
Marc:Just all Superman all the time.
Marc:Shit.
Marc:I know Led Zeppelin, obviously.
Guest:I feel like if you try to think too hard, then they're not true guys.
Marc:Yeah, I guess so.
Marc:Yeah, so, like, look, I like an eclectic bit of music.
Marc:I'm, you know, I'm partial to, like, the Wu-Tang Clan, but I also love, like, the pulso service.
Marc:So, you know, it's kind of a hodgepodge, I'd say, of, you know, acts.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:I would say though, also for you, there's probably some Mets legend who's in there as a, as a, your guy, like you probably have a person you have, like, whether it may, maybe it's just like Keith Hernandez and Ron Darling.
Guest:Cause they're still like in our lives.
Guest:Like, I feel like you have a, you, you would, you would have a Mets connection in your, in your guys.
Marc:Yeah, for sure.
Marc:I mean, my, I mean, look, my favorite Met of all time, John Olerud.
Marc:guy who wore his uh his uh batting uh helmet uh in in the play of field yeah i hit like 350 he was a fucking amazing um you know he was only here for like one or two years yeah um but yeah um yeah definitely mets uh but yeah like that you know that's my guys i'd say christopher nolan probably one of my guys like i was really i think so i mean well you did mention that that was like you kind of like he was like your tarantino you came up with him
Marc:Yes.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:He was like the guy where I saw Memento and I was like, well, this guy's the next big thing.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:So like I think he's he's one of my guys for sure.
Marc:But yeah, that's a great question.
Marc:I mean, look, if we're at a bar, you know, and that, you know, that those are the ones that come off the top of my head.
Marc:If I had to give it a think, I'd probably have a much more, you know, robust thought about it.
Guest:Sure.
Guest:Although I think top of your head is the best case in this situation.
Marc:That's true.
Marc:That's true.
Guest:Um, I would say, so for me, I, uh, I, you know, I, I, I've meant the ones that were mentioned here are pretty true.
Guest:Tarantino, Weird Al, uh, Pee Wee Herman, who I've mentioned before, uh,
Guest:And I think a lot of it for me is real life people, like people in my life, friends, teachers, like people that I know that like when I'm always thinking about like life advice that meant something or stuff I was able to kind of corral my point of view around.
Guest:A lot of it was just from people I know.
Guest:But if there's one person that I never met who I would say fits that bill, and we've talked about him at length on the show, it's Roger Ebert.
Guest:Like I think Roger Ebert is absolutely like my probably definitive guy.
Guest:I've read more words of that guy than any human being alive as not even just counting hearing him and watching him.
Guest:Just the actual printed word of him has been in my brain much more than anyone else.
Guest:And I think I've centered a lot of my
Guest:belief system and kind of structural appreciation of things around his writing and his teachings, you could call them.
Guest:So yeah, definitely Roger Ebert.
Marc:Dude, you know, when I think about it, and I have been thinking about like my previous self or like my past, and I gotta say, I have sort of siloed off like a lot of like personal stuff to the point where
Marc:To look back at stuff from a certain time frame of my life, it gets real fuzzy.
Marc:And I can't... It's like almost... It's like buried in ice.
Marc:That makes sense.
Marc:You know?
Marc:So, like, it's funny to think about that stuff because I never talk about it.
Marc:And, you know, it's like, oh, I kind of have to...
Guest:defrost that part of my brain even like you know like i don't know it's just not something that comes naturally to me because of prior shit that i just like put put in storage you know yeah i don't know i and i i think you know that that happens to a lot of people i think that's why like you uh will often say something to me about like oh you how do you fuck do you remember that or this or that or it's like or trivia stuff right i remember a
Guest:Like, for lack of a better way to say this, like, I don't think I have kind of traumatically blocked things out of my life.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Like, I think that there's that fortunately for me, I was able to kind of be blessed with a life that was free of major traumatic events or kind of major emotional fluctuations.
Guest:Right.
Guest:where I had to like kind of completely rethink who I was or, or place myself in a different situation because I needed to get away from an older side of myself that never happened.
Guest:And so I'm not saying it's a one-to-one thing, but I do think that has helped me kind of, I can remember things that I was told when I was six, you know, or saw and that that little bit of trivia stays with me for a long time.
Guest:So I do think it has a lot to do with that.
Marc:Yeah, yeah, I think you're right, honestly.
Marc:And like, it's, it's something I've thought about, but I've never really investigated.
Marc:But thank you for the question.
Marc:And yeah, that was great.
Guest:And, you know, like I said, it's a great, like, testament to that as like this weird kind of signature question of Marx, like, you can get places with that.
Guest:That's a good question.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And by the way, you can plug and play those sorts of questions when you meet people.
Marc:That's a great question to ask.
Marc:Yeah, for sure.
Marc:And I got to say, I think that's the biggest takeaway from your show is that how Mark has a conversation with people.
Guest:Yeah, kind of teaching you how to have a conversation.
Marc:Exactly.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:You know, like I the times that I go to a party and people like, oh, so what do you do is like the worst thing ever.
Marc:Instead, I wish they were just like Mark and like ask me who your guys are.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:You know, brothers and sisters.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:What did your old man do?
Guest:okay question about podcast stats this comes from heath do you sometimes know if some episodes are more popular than others or do you just see a number of downloads i guess meaning like because the downloads could just be somebody like has an auto download on their thing you don't know if they actually listen to the episode right he says any way of knowing if subscribers actually engaged with it or just went not interested and deleted it and yes we do i mean
Guest:I don't want to speak for everyone, but I know that through ACAST, you know, our platform gives us identification of listens, not just downloads.
Guest:And the great thing about that is that you can start to see regularity, right, of patterns and listenership as opposed to just downloads, right?
Guest:Oh, that's cool.
Guest:And, you know, fortunately for us, we don't have to sweat it too much.
Guest:Like we have a kind of built in audience.
Guest:We have a much higher listen rate than the average.
Guest:And it's also been told to us from an advertising perspective that people know listeners to our show listen on average much longer than
Guest:than other shows.
Guest:So, so, uh, people aren't concerned with like, oh, they turned it on and turned it right off.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So, um, yes, we, but we do know.
Guest:And I think, you know, had a similar type of question asked before.
Guest:I'll kind of answer this the same way as anything about like, do you book for popularity or do you book for this or that?
Guest:And it's like, no, we book out of interest.
Guest:We book guests based on Mark's interest level, but we may air them and kind of cluster them in a way where we know, uh,
Guest:okay, this is going to kind of surf a little wave here because you'll bring in a lot of outside interested people in a certain guest and then you land back to the kind of guests that are just like standard for us, maybe don't have a big name recognition or whatever.
Guest:And what we've found over doing this for 15 years is you see that that...
Guest:winds up healthy.
Guest:Like you, you don't look at any given month period on our spreadsheet and go like, Whoa, what happened there?
Guest:No one was listening or tons of people were listening.
Guest:And then they went away.
Guest:Like it's all pretty much the same wave that surfs, you know?
Marc:Gotcha.
Marc:Now, do you know, like, like what's the number one episode of the year?
Marc:Like, do you know that sort of shit?
Guest:Oh, of this year?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I haven't checked it out, but if you'd like me to, I can.
Guest:I would love that.
Guest:All right, what would you guess?
Guest:If you had to guess, what was the most listened to one?
Marc:If I had to guess, shit.
Marc:Let's see.
Marc:If I had to guess... I'll tell you this.
Guest:It goes back... It's going to almost always be something from earlier in the year because, you know, that game... Like, if something was...
Guest:Just as well listened to in November, it hasn't caught up with all the time with the long tail that the earlier episode has.
Marc:All right.
Marc:I'm guessing top three is Larry David, Ed O'Neill, and what's his name?
Marc:Paul Scheer.
Marc:So Larry David was number two.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:All right.
Guest:And like I said, he was not early enough in the year to be number one.
Guest:If he was number, if he was maybe two months earlier, he'd probably be the number one most listened to episode.
Guest:But no, because the number one was from back in February and it's John Oliver.
Marc:Oh, interesting.
Marc:John Oliver.
Marc:I would have thought Carol Burnett, but she didn't, she didn't make it, huh?
Guest:No, no.
Guest:But so, yeah, that, but that goes to show you though, like Larry and, and John Oliver, it's interesting because it's like, you know, both comedians, both people that I think, you know, have outside, have fans outside of WTF that would be interested in hearing them.
Guest:But would also fall into the category of like, if you were a WTF fan and you're kind of like lapsed for a little bit or whatever, you're like, oh, well, that's what I'm going to go back to.
Guest:Right, right.
Guest:Paul Giamatti was number three.
Guest:Again, that was the first episode of the year.
Guest:So that gains some traction that way.
Guest:Oh, okay.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So that's number three.
Guest:Number four was Greta Gerwig, her return appearance, also from back in January.
Guest:Awesome.
Guest:And number five was Billy Joe Armstrong from Green Day.
Guest:That was also back in January.
Guest:So that shows you it's like.
Guest:Interesting.
Guest:Three in January, one in February.
Guest:But then Larry David, which was in June, is number two.
Guest:So that shows you that if Larry David was in January or February, he'd probably be topping those by a lot.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:So you're saying that the longer it's out, the more people are listening?
Marc:Exactly.
Marc:It gets discovered.
Marc:These things have a long tail.
Marc:Gotcha.
Marc:Wow.
Marc:Interesting.
Marc:Wow.
Marc:All right.
Marc:You have a Halley's Comet type of podcast.
Marc:Exactly.
Guest:Exactly.
Marc:Cool.
Guest:um okay this person said uh in relation to our conversation about movies that no one liked but us this person said 1941 was panned by everyone including my family but is a movie i could put on at any time and uh i yes i felt the same way i don't feel i would not watch it now but i do remember as a kid i was like yeah what was everybody's problem this was funny and i think it was like
Guest:You know, it hit me right at the right age where I was like, oh, John Belushi.
Guest:I love that guy.
Guest:Like, you know, what's what's the problem with this?
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:I guess at the time people just thought this is like beneath Steven Spielberg to be making this.
Guest:But it's great.
Guest:I mean, it was it was great for a for like 12 year old me or however old I was when I first saw it.
Guest:I never saw it.
Guest:Oh, you never have?
Guest:Nah.
Guest:Yeah, I don't know that I would go out so far as to recommend watching it now, but it's its own thing.
Guest:It's not like, you know, if you wanted to be a Spielberg completist, it's not the worst thing in the world to do.
Marc:Yeah, you know, you say completist a lot.
Marc:I am not a completist with the people that I like.
Marc:So, like, thank God, because I can't imagine going back and watching every single thing that, you know, Steven Spielberg has done.
Marc:Right, right.
Marc:But I know people do do that.
Marc:So yeah, I guess they're watching 1941.
Marc:All right.
Guest:This person says, I enjoy listening to you two talk about movies, even though I don't share many of your preferences.
Guest:Did you become friends because you had the same general tastes?
Guest:Or was it because you were friends first and you were open to what each other enjoyed and then grew to individually like those things?
Guest:Are there movies or other topics on which you really disagree with each other
Guest:And if you do, do you find it difficult to agree to disagree?
Guest:Well, to answer that last part, I think you just go back to the beginning of the episode and you can see, no, like we, the both of us have no problem being like, you're fucking crazy.
Guest:No, that stinks.
Guest:But you know, it's interesting.
Guest:You think about it.
Guest:It's like,
Guest:I it's not just you.
Guest:I would have a hard time identifying any person that I'm close friends with who I didn't become friends with them from the basis of already having common interests.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like I think you and I, I mean, obviously we were like in the foxhole together.
Guest:We were doing this morning radio thing and, but like there were other people who work there that I don't like talk to all the time.
Guest:Right.
Guest:But we had the Mets.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:And that becomes like a daily check-in.
Marc:It sure does.
Guest:So that's a big thing that like you start to, you know, talk about this thing with a person every day and you both wind up realizing that you're into it in the same way.
Guest:Right.
Guest:We had this like we had the same level of interest in it and through our lives we did.
Guest:And so then you start to find other things.
Guest:You start to go like, oh, you like this?
Guest:You like these movies?
Guest:And you, you know, listen to this music?
Guest:And once all those things start to come together, I think those become building blocks of like a longer term friendship.
Marc:And also, you know, the personality doesn't hurt.
Marc:You know, if I was a real...
Guest:it's like chicken or the egg there.
Guest:Right.
Guest:It's like, are you going to be a guy who likes all the same things we do and have like, I'm a totally different person.
Guest:I stoic, like, you know, I don't know.
Guest:I can't get a read on that guy.
Guest:I doubt it.
Guest:Right.
Marc:Listen, can, who asked this question?
Marc:Did they give it?
Marc:It was unnamed.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:Unnamed person.
Marc:I am still to this day confused as to why Brendan and most of the people in my life are friends with me because I am, I don't know, a certain type of person.
Guest:So this is good because Ryan wrote in and said, Chris, you often refer to yourself as an asshole.
Guest:Oh, yeah.
Guest:What are some of your greatest hits?
Marc:I mean, you should circle back to see the time I got my wife banned for life from a grocery store.
Marc:So invalid.
Guest:Because you explained that whole story and you were not in the wrong.
Guest:Like you were barely in the wrong.
Guest:You were in the wrong insofar as like you mildly misread a rule, but you did everything right.
Guest:Like I think, I think Ryan, listen, I'm talking to you from outside of the perspective of Chris.
Guest:I think he's deluded here.
Guest:I think he thinks an asshole is something different than what it is.
Guest:I do not think Chris is an asshole.
Guest:And I don't, I think his, I think the idea that he just gave that as an example is proof that he is, that he is mistaken.
Yeah.
Marc:I mean, I'm, I'm happy to be wrong about this, but like, I, I am pretty sure from my outspokenness to my, the way that I, I, you know, I don't know, just can't hold my tongue when a parent or a family member is talking about Donald Trump, like, or any.
Marc:Again, you're not an asshole.
Marc:Again, again, all endorsed by me.
Marc:Well, I mean, that's like, you know, I'm still just a weird kind of asshole-ish kind of guy.
Marc:Like Mark says that he's an asshole, right?
Guest:Yeah, and a lot of people do.
Guest:I've never met.
Guest:met one person who knows you that would describe you that way not one i i just think i think you you got to sit with that a little bit in the idea that like i don't know maybe it's a defense mechanism maybe it's your way of like trying to uh codify your own personality in a way that you can that can easily brush it off i just act like an asshole sometimes but that you really think about it it's like none of these things are asshole behavior they're like foibles and
Guest:Like they're like things you got yourself into where you like, oh, man, how did I do this?
Guest:I'm just an asshole.
Guest:You know, yes, I guess.
Marc:Yeah, I guess it comes down to a low self-esteem sort of thing where like I don't think very highly of anything that I'm doing, you know, so it's just yeah.
Guest:Well, just as the WTF podcast has been a kind of 15-year-long journey to get Mark to kind of believe in himself, I feel like maybe, just maybe, the Ryans of the world...
Guest:Asking you this question will maybe make you think about this in a different light and maybe have you, you know, kind of gain that confidence that you have been missing.
Guest:I don't think you're an unconfident guy.
Guest:Like you don't come across to me as like somebody who's just like meek and gets pushed around in that.
Guest:No, not at all.
Guest:It's a different kind of lack of confidence I think you have.
Guest:And I also have noticed over the time of knowing you, which again is like 20 years, like you've pushed through that quite a bit too.
Guest:So like you've done a lot of work on that yourself.
Marc:Yes, for sure.
Marc:And like, yeah, I have changed a whole bunch since you first met me and, you know, continue to change.
Marc:But yes, I will give that a thank.
Marc:Thank you, Ryan.
Marc:And thank you, Brendan.
Guest:All right.
Guest:Well, this next question comes from Tyler.
Guest:And he said, I loved hearing you talk with your son about the naked gun.
Guest:I've been thinking a lot about movies and parenting and would love to hear more of your thoughts on how you chose movies to show him when he was younger.
Guest:I was born in 1988 and became a dad last year.
Guest:And I've been wondering for a while if kids movies have been getting milder.
Guest:So many of the movies we watched growing up had real danger or death in the plot.
Guest:How have you decided which shows and movies are age appropriate for your son throughout his life?
Guest:Chris's uncle opinions are welcome as well.
Guest:So Tyler, I will say this first and foremost, an 88.
Guest:Yeah, you're a little younger than me.
Guest:And so this might not apply exactly, but I think it still does to an extent.
Guest:And what I had to realize very quickly with a young child was the stuff I watched was wildly inappropriate.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:And, and, and that's not just like from like my own individual experience.
Guest:I was at our local movie theater, the Nighthawk the other night.
Guest:And they do like, you know, reels of things that are old.
Guest:You know, it's like, there's a video screen playing all the time that has vintage stuff on it.
Guest:And for some reason, the thing they had on the other day was cartoons, Saturday morning, Saturday morning cartoons from like the, the late eighties.
Guest:I believe it was like actually 1988 might've been your birth year, Tyler.
Guest:And,
Guest:And it was The Muppet Babies.
Guest:The Muppet Babies is in the title.
Guest:Great show, but they're supposed to be toddlers.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Right?
Guest:It goes to commercial.
Guest:The first commercial was for the line of toys of RoboCop.
Okay.
Guest:fucking seen RoboCop like there are fewer hard R rated movies than RoboCop like that is like the hardest possible R you could have in a movie just based on violence alone
Guest:let alone any anything else you want to put in it like no kid should have seen robocop not only did i see it many times i add and everyone i knew saw robocop you know they were selling toys on muppet babies yes so like just remind yourself tyler
Guest:The world has changed.
Guest:It has probably changed for the better when it comes to that.
Guest:Like, I don't take those.
Guest:Like, I'm glad I had all that stuff, but it was not cool.
Guest:And, you know, you're then once you realize, like, don't go running to show them all this stuff that you loved when you were younger, you can take their lead.
Guest:on the things that you can show them that's that's my best bit of advice is that like your kid will show you what they are interested in and based on that you can build blocks around it that you could be like okay that the concentric circle around that thing that they're interested in also includes these things from my past
Guest:don't try to shoehorn your own stuff in there.
Guest:It will probably not go well.
Guest:And I will also recommend the website, uh, common sense media.
Guest:When I heard about this, I thought probably the same thing.
Guest:A lot of you are thinking that's gotta be some really where's, where's the religion come in, in this, this has to be some like Christian conservative thing.
Guest:No, it is this, it's like Wikipedia.
Guest:It is this like excellent public good that it just exists to be,
Guest:like in the most unbiased way possible, tell you what is in a movie that you might object to for your kids.
Guest:And it has things categorized by sex and violence and, uh, language and adult themes and stuff.
Guest:And you just look at it and you go, Oh, right.
Guest:I didn't remember that that movie had that in it.
Guest:I will not show it to my eight year old.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Right.
Guest:It's a very useful thing.
Guest:And you can look into the background of it.
Guest:The background is totally on the up and up.
Guest:It is not like some covert way to brainwash your kids or to, you know, puritanical thing.
Guest:It's not like back in the days when Blockbuster used to edit the movies, you know, like, no, it's not that at all.
Guest:It's just a straight up public good.
Marc:Yeah, and I'd say, listen to Brendan.
Marc:I'm more of an Uncle Buck type of situation where, you know, I'm just, I have a shovel, I'm making a pancake.
Marc:Yeah, it's really a bit slapped together, I would say.
Guest:Have you shown your nieces and nephews anything that you shouldn't have?
Marc:No, I showed them the new Dungeons & Dragons movie.
Marc:Oh, did they like that?
Marc:And they loved it.
Marc:Oh, that's a good one.
Marc:Yeah, that is a good one.
Marc:And...
Marc:Man, last time I was over their house, the youngest one, Jack, who is awesome, obviously.
Marc:He was like crying because he was like, you know, my friends, they were watching like Halloween.
Marc:Jesus Christ.
Marc:The kid's like six.
Marc:And I'm just like, can you stop having this person as your friend, baby?
Marc:Like, I don't know.
Marc:I don't know how to have that conversation.
Marc:But like, you need better friends on Long Island.
Marc:And I know there aren't any better friends on Long Island.
Marc:So you need to just move.
Marc:So yeah, that's great advice to a six year old.
Guest:Hey, just move.
Guest:Just get this shit.
Guest:Pack it up.
Marc:Get a stick.
Marc:Pack your favorite toy.
Guest:Old school hobo style.
Marc:Yes.
Guest:Okay, last question because this is very easy to answer.
Guest:Do you guys use Letterboxd?
Guest:And if so, what are your handles?
Guest:I very confidently can tell you I do not use Letterboxd.
Marc:Yeah, yeah.
Marc:You're not a fan of Letterboxd.
Marc:I use Letterboxd and I would not have any idea what my handle is.
Marc:I'm guessing it's my name because I never, you know, I'm not very creative that way.
Marc:Do you log reviews?
Marc:I mean, I log, like, a star rating.
Marc:Oh, okay.
Marc:And if I like something.
Guest:But you're not writing reviews on there?
Marc:No.
Marc:Oh, okay.
Marc:I mean, the last movie I put on there, you know what the last movie was?
Marc:Conclave!
Marc:Conclave, which I gave, I only gave three stars to, which I am shocked about.
Guest:Oh, you will never be the Pope now.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I ruined it.
Marc:God damn it.
Marc:Where's my vape?
Marc:But yeah, yeah.
Marc:Conclave got three stars.
Marc:And yeah, it's just my name, Chris Lopresto, which spelled with a K for some reason.
Guest:All right.
Guest:Well, I have lots of questions still sitting here and topics and things, and they always keep coming in because you send them to us.
Guest:And I want to say, to go back to my guy, Roger Ebert, and an example set forth by him.
Guest:When I was, I don't know, maybe college age or whatever, I sent...
Guest:him a question on his like ask the movie answer man and i did not get an answer and i was like what did i like i i judged myself on it like i was i was demoralized right and it's like now i know yeah that it's just because
Guest:so many come in and you only can do so much.
Guest:And it's like, so please, if I didn't answer your question or read your comment or we, we love getting them.
Guest:I'm not, I didn't like flush it down the toilet or something.
Guest:It's just, there's a limited space.
Guest:We, we, we're, we got, we got to wrap this up.
Guest:We got to record another hour of a show right now to bring it to you next week, because that's what we do.
Guest:We give you a show even when we're not around for the holidays.
Guest:So please don't be like me with Ebert and get all upset that, that your question wasn't read.
Guest:It's not that it
Guest:at all.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:But next week we will be here for a special holiday show.
Guest:We will record it now and you will get it next week.
Guest:And if you would like to participate, it involves us watching a movie and we were kind of inspired by Owen's watching of home alone three.
Guest:And you know, the idea that there might be these movies out there that we have dismissed from our holiday rotation.
Guest:We just heard, Oh no, those are awful.
Guest:I would never watch it, but like, let's investigate, uh,
Guest:Are certain movies truly as terrible as their reputation?
Guest:And should more people be giving them a shot?
Guest:And so we decided to do that with a movie that neither of us had ever seen, a holiday film.
Guest:We thought maybe this could be a new holiday addition to our movie rotation.
Guest:And so Chris and I watched the 1998 Michael Keaton holiday classic, Jack Frost.
Guest:So if you would like to watch Jack Frost, don't worry.
Marc:Watch Jack Frost.
Marc:No, no, no, no.
Marc:Watch Jack Frost, okay?
Marc:Can I just say?
Guest:Okay, listen, listen.
Guest:I agree with Chris.
Guest:You can watch it, but I accept no responsibility for you watching Jack Frost.
Marc:I think that's how I put it.
Marc:I'm going to tell everyone right now, you should watch Jack Frost and keep this thought in your mind as you do it.
Marc:Michael Keaton, while still a human man, and I know it's a weird thing to have to preface, but as a human, Michael Keaton is rarely, if ever, in the same scene as anyone else in this entire movie.
Marc:He is not there, dude.
Marc:He is spliced in.
Marc:It is wild.
Marc:So please watch it with that in mind and you're going to have a lot of fun.
Guest:All right.
Guest:Well, that might be one thing you can watch it in mind.
Guest:The other thing I would like you to watch it in mind with is that there was another actor who was supposed to be Jack Frost.
Guest:I mean...
Guest:it has to be Bruce Willis, right?
Guest:It is not Bruce Willis and it will all make sense very soon.
Guest:So that is your little teaser for next week for Jack Frost, the episode we will bring you in the dead of the winter break.
Guest:Uh,
Guest:So until then, enjoy your holidays.
Guest:Merry Christmas.
Guest:Happy Hanukkah.
Guest:They're the same day this year.
Guest:That's fantastic.
Guest:Kwanzaa too, I think, is starting on the same day.
Guest:So everyone enjoy whatever festivity you're participating in.
Guest:If you're not participating in any festivities, listen to us.
Guest:We'll bring you an episode.
Guest:We'll celebrate together.
Guest:So until then, I am Brendan and that is Chris.
Peace.