BONUS The Friday Show - Road Raves
Guest:Did you know there's a stunt in that movie where the guy is on a motorcycle and he goes off the side of the road and flips over the handlebars?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like I remember seeing that and being like, wow, that was crazy how they got that dummy to fly off so perfectly.
Guest:That was a real person, wasn't it?
Yeah.
Marc:Hey, Chris.
Marc:Hey, Brandon.
Marc:How's it going?
Marc:You know, sick and I don't know.
Marc:Everything's fine.
Marc:You're sick too?
Marc:Yeah, I'm coming down with something.
Marc:Oh, when did that happen?
Marc:You didn't tell me.
Marc:Just like a day or two ago.
Marc:I got my cat mug, so I'm drinking some tea.
Guest:Oh, I thought it would have been the perfect opportunity for you to tell me when I said that I was puking my brains out all week.
Marc:No, you know, this happened like it only happens when I cough and I'm like, oh, there's a little bit of like liquid in there in that cough.
Marc:And then like woke up this morning and like my breathing was all weird.
Guest:Oh, yeah.
Guest:Tis the season for all the worst shit to be spread contagiously.
Guest:Uh, yeah, I, I got the neurovirus from my kid, so I was down for the count, uh, was surprised to even be bounced back up by today.
Guest:But, uh, but yeah, here we are.
Guest:And, uh, I am trying to catch up on a lot of stuff.
Guest:Um, and one thing I noticed, uh, when I, when I woke up today was that all the Oscar nominations were out.
Guest:I had completely forgotten that it was that, that week.
Guest:um that the oscar nominations were going to come out and i gotta say pretty boring list yeah really boring and uh no challengers anywhere to be found which is i know you were you were uh high on that movie i still have not seen it mark also said it was great and uh and yeah did it get no nominations zero not a one i don't think his other movie did either did it no queer no shut out for some reason
Guest:I don't like those Italians these days, I guess.
Marc:What else is new?
Marc:But for Best Picture, have you seen all the Best Picture stuff?
Guest:Oh, I haven't even come close, but I think you have, right?
Guest:Which ones have you not seen?
Marc:I haven't seen Wicked because I have to wait for my wife to see it.
Marc:And it's like, she's never available.
Marc:So I have to like wait.
Marc:So hopefully this weekend I'll see Wicked.
Marc:But I haven't seen, I'm still here.
Marc:I actually don't even know what that is.
Guest:i hear that's very good amelia perez i have not seen and i've heard nothing but bad things about it yeah we we literally wrote to our friend matt singer who is a film critic and i was just like matt can you just tell me if this is worth seeing i don't even care if you liked it or not like if you hated it but it's still worth seeing i'll watch it but i don't want to waste my time if it's not worth watching and he was just like it stinks yeah
Marc:Don't watch it.
Marc:Real The Critic vibe there.
Guest:Although, I don't know.
Guest:I still probably will get around to watching it.
Marc:I probably will, too.
Marc:I mean, look, you're talking to a person who watched Kraven the Hunter, right?
Guest:Yes.
Guest:And this one you can watch at home.
Guest:It's on Netflix.
Marc:That's right.
Marc:That's right.
Marc:But besides that, I've seen all the other ones.
Marc:So I've seen Nickel Boys and Dune and Conclave, of course.
Marc:So, yeah.
Guest:All right.
Guest:So with that being the caveat that you have not seen Wicked and you have not seen I'm Still Here and Amelia Perez, of the other seven, what's your pick?
Marc:My favorite, I'm going to say...
Marc:The brutalist.
Marc:I'm just high on the brutalist.
Guest:Yeah, that's what I figured based on what you had kind of previewed your choice on that when you talked about that before.
Marc:You haven't seen the brutalist yet?
Guest:No, I've somehow, I don't know why, but I have not come up with the three and a half hours to get to the theater to see it.
Guest:Or actually the five and a half hours or however long it's going to take to actually do it.
Guest:So I don't know why.
Guest:I don't know why I don't have that time these days.
Guest:Market screeners, right?
Guest:Like, can he like forward those to you?
Guest:I don't want to watch that at home.
Guest:Like that defeats the whole purpose.
Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:You gotta go to like Lincoln Center.
Guest:You gotta experience the intermission.
Guest:I don't even need a fancy theater.
Guest:I just need a movie screen, right?
Guest:I just need to go sit in a dark room that is gonna show this thing on film.
Guest:It was shot with these Vista Vision cameras.
Guest:That's great.
Guest:So like, let me see it that way.
Guest:I do not wanna watch it on my TV or my computer screen or anything like that.
Marc:You know what people love is Nickel Boys.
Marc:And I saw that last weekend and gotta say,
Marc:Didn't love it.
Guest:It's a downer though, no?
Marc:I mean, look, I've enjoyed movies that are downers.
Marc:This was just, there's a gimmick to it that I just was like, I'm out.
Marc:I declare bankruptcy on.
Marc:Oh, really?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:It's a first person shot movie.
Marc:So, like, it's like Doom.
Marc:Like a video game?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Except, you know, you're looking through the character's eyes.
Marc:All right.
Marc:And I just didn't enjoy it.
Marc:And, yeah, just not high on my list.
Guest:thing is that usually there's movies that wind up on these best picture lists or whatever that i haven't seen yet and none of them that are on here are like i gotta rush out and see that one like there's nothing like pulling me toward it and i i don't know it's just one of those things where it's like i feel like we've learned enough about the academy process and the voting and all this and how it's like a big campaign that it's like
Guest:i don't what do we really care about this anymore seriously that is the takeaway where it's like i don't care does anyone care like this everything is is bad no i i care much more about the uh the type of things that uh bill burr and mark were talking about on the show this week which is stuff like why they get angry and about what like
Guest:before we even had bill on i think i sent you that clip of him on uh jimmy kimmel yeah that was him talking about like why he gets angry at things and i was like i've never heard somebody explaining myself and all the irish as well as this explains us right here yeah
Marc:yeah i also loved uh mark saying i don't rage anymore and uh first of all i was just like that's a big fucking lie but also bill's like you just tore a drawer out of its hinges just fucking classic uh those two great rapport uh with you know what's so funny about that it's like
Guest:All right.
Guest:I don't know if you still have it around you.
Guest:If you are able to access Mark's newsletter that you get in email, can you pull that up?
Guest:Or like his tweet or something where you can see the picture of him and Bill.
Guest:And so if anybody else can go to either like the newsletter that gets sent around, if you have that and you want to look at it or, you know, the picture that Mark took that's on his social media of him and Bill Burr, their face is there.
Guest:are exactly the dynamic that they have like bill shit eating grin like you know devil may care and mark is like what the fuck am i doing with this guy is he zooming me fuck like and it's so funny because they have such a great like i love we've had bill on like three times four i think actually
Guest:And it always goes like this.
Guest:Like Mark's like, I don't know what we're going to talk about.
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:I get so defensive around that guy.
Guest:Fuck.
Guest:You know, and it's all worked up and then they go and they have, it's just off to the races for an hour.
Guest:It's like, there's no, there's, they're exactly the guys who should be talking.
Guest:Like it was done.
Guest:I was like, if you had a different mentality around the way you talk to him, um,
Guest:you guys should do this every week.
Guest:Like this is like, the funny thing is they've both tried to do like side project podcasts with other guys.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And the, both of them have failed at it.
Guest:And, and it's because like, it's not the right dynamic with the guy they chose.
Guest:The two of them is the right dynamic.
Guest:Right.
Guest:It's the odd couple type of thing.
Guest:Yeah, exactly.
Guest:And it's like they're going to butt heads, but finally meet in the middle.
Guest:It's a great dynamic.
Guest:I would listen to it every week.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I mean, when Mark was saying, well, my divorce with Mishnah cost a fortune and Bill's retort was, well, she earned it, was just so delicious.
Marc:What a perfectly well-timed fucking interjection, man.
Guest:Yeah.
Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:They, they like, it's a, it's a weird thing.
Guest:Like they know each other very well and they still, but they're still learning.
Guest:They're still in the, they're still in the prize of learning about themselves.
Guest:That's like kind of what makes the both of them great.
Guest:Like, and why people enjoy them.
Guest:Cause they're like, yeah, these guys in their older age are still trying to figure it out and they're trying to be better.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:You know, I've I've never been a Bill Burr like super fan because it has nothing against Bill Burr.
Marc:It's just that the worst people I know love him.
Marc:And so that always makes me unsure of what to think of Bill Burr.
Guest:I know what you mean, but that's, you know, the funny thing is it's because, you know, he always used to be in that atmosphere of Opie and Anthony and those guys.
Guest:And yet he's the guy who like got on stage at that big Opie and Anthony comedy show in Philadelphia.
Guest:This was like in like 2008.
Guest:This is literally what broke him.
Guest:like what what broke bill burr to the like before that he was like a you know featured act comic and you know every now and then you'd see him on chapelle show or something but he was not known to the world at large like he was not a household name he broke because he did a comedy set in philadelphia or it's actually i think it was in camden new jersey which is right outside philadelphia and it's like you know known as like one of the
Guest:roughest cities in america and dom irera had done a set where the these animal opian anthony fans had just like heckled him and booed him through and it's like at an amphitheater big theater setting and so burr was just fed up with this and he went out there and you can watch it still online he destroys this crowd for like
Guest:12 minutes straight and he's counting his time down as he's doing it like he's like i'm up here for 14 minutes i'm scheduled for 14 minutes fuck you and he just is launching into and like he's like your whole city is shit you worship a fictional hero you got a fucking fake white guy statue in your city you losers your your team is named after women horses like
Guest:he's just destroying them to the point where they come one 80 around and they're cheering him by the end of it because he's done such a, like, it's just nonstop him.
Guest:Just like this invective destruction of them.
Guest:And, uh,
Guest:That was like in the moment, I remember being like, oh, this guy, he, he hates that.
Guest:Like he legitimately hates them.
Guest:Like he's not, he's not pretending.
Marc:This is not fake.
Marc:It's all genuine hate.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And, and like, I can still see that in him today.
Guest:Like how he gets all fed up with like online conspiracy thinking.
Guest:And there's this great clip on him, of him on Joe Rogan from like during the pandemic where he
Guest:he's talking about like how he actually thinks all the health measures are good.
Guest:Like we should follow these health measures.
Guest:And Joe says something to him.
Guest:Like, well, Bill, you think people, we should think we're walking around wearing a mask.
Guest:You think that's okay.
Guest:Is that how you want to live?
Guest:And Burr goes, Joe, Joe, don't start this, Joe, Joe, you and I as two, not doctors are not going to sit here smoking cigars where you sit in front of an American flag picture and talk about this.
Guest:Like we're some kind of experts.
Guest:We're not, we're idiots.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Just stop.
Guest:We're not getting we're not doing this.
Guest:And I'm like, yep, that's that's that guy still.
Guest:That's still the same guy who cursed out the Opian Anthony fans.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Just a little bit common sense goes a long way.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And trying to be a better person, like trying to be like, all right, I'm not going to just jump at my animal impulses all the time.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Now, you also had Richard Gad on two weeks ago.
Marc:Oh, yeah.
Marc:We haven't talked about that one.
Marc:Yeah, and that was, first of all, it was, like, really wild hearing, like, this awful story about his, you know, his life, and then having the fire evacuation notification happen.
Marc:Totally.
Marc:It was, like, just trauma on top of trauma.
Marc:Like, it just, like, had a heaviness to it.
Marc:So, yeah, that was really crazy.
Marc:And was it weird editing this episode knowing that, like...
Marc:Someone's lawyers or whoever is listening to this and making sure that, you know, it doesn't put you guys at risk or him at risk.
Guest:No, I wasn't concerned when it when it ended.
Guest:I talked to Mark right after and just what he debriefed me on about it, like right after it was over.
Guest:I was pretty confident that nothing was going to go wrong.
Guest:you know, awry.
Guest:Like, you know, Mark talked to me about how they had gone over everything and it all sounded on the up and up to me.
Guest:And so when I was listening to it, I, I didn't really have my, uh, you know, defenses up and, you know, he's generally aware of how to talk about it right now.
Guest:And frankly,
Guest:The interesting thing, and I didn't realize it until I looked into it myself, is he's not being sued.
Guest:Netflix is being sued.
Guest:So, like, of course, he doesn't want to say anything about the case because, like, he doesn't want anything used against Netflix because, you know, basically his name is involved with it.
Guest:But that's a telling thing that, you know, he's not being sued for defamation.
Guest:They are.
Guest:That's interesting.
Guest:Oh, very interesting.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And it's really, if you look at the guts of the case...
Guest:From my just perspective of reading it, I don't have no expertise about this whatsoever, but it looks like, you know, it's a real kind of like marketing error on Netflix's part that he told the story the way it was told.
Guest:you know, based on the shows he's done and, um, you know, his performances in that, which means that like the names are changed of people.
Guest:It's in the story is dramatically embellished and he's, he's getting at, you know, what he considers to be like the truth of this story, but with a dramatic arc.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And so that's why names are changed and locations are changed.
Guest:And it's, that's just standard drama.
Guest:People do that all the time.
Guest:Netflix advertised this as not even based on a true story.
Guest:This is a true story.
Guest:Oh, wow.
Guest:That seems... Now, maybe he said thing going on here, but apparently he told them, don't do this.
Guest:Huh.
Guest:I don't know if that's him trying to, you know, really distance himself from it, but that they were like, no, this is okay, you know?
Guest:And it looks like it wasn't okay to do that, you know?
Guest:But at the very least, it wasn't okay in the sense that a judge has allowed this case to proceed, right?
Guest:A judge was like, no, you guys said this was true, and now you're saying it's not true, so that's a problem.
Guest:Because that's been the whole defense, right?
Guest:Once this thing came up,
Guest:Everybody's saying like, no, this guy, he he is dramatizing his story.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So he didn't use this woman's name.
Guest:He didn't, you know, say all these details are exactly the same.
Guest:And they're saying, but you're saying it was true.
Guest:And so Netflix is saying, no, no, no, it's not true.
Guest:And they're like, too late.
Marc:You already said it.
Marc:Yeah, just needed that carrot to be based on at the top there.
Marc:That's a mistake.
Marc:That is probably a multi-million dollar mistake.
Guest:I would bet.
Guest:I mean, I've looked, again, just from me reading it, I have no legal expertise about this whatsoever.
Guest:I'm as much of just an observer as anybody else.
Guest:And looking at the news, I'm like, oh, I see legal experts saying Netflix is in a bind here.
Yeah.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:But notably not Richard Gadd.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like he's not being sued.
Marc:That's interesting.
Guest:All right.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Very interesting.
Guest:Cause also the other thing is here, I'll say it this way.
Guest:And I would, I'll never say this any other time.
Guest:Go watch Piers Morgan.
Guest:What?
Guest:Yes.
Guest:You'll never hear me say that ever again, but go watch Piers Morgan.
Guest:He has a YouTube channel now where he does his show.
Guest:Cause that's how show business works.
Guest:But he interviewed the woman who claims to be the person being represented in baby reindeer.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:And,
Guest:And then he interviewed another woman who, I don't even think you could just say claims, who had...
Guest:officially gotten a restraining order against that woman for stalking her oh really yes a a uh it's it's actually there's a brief mention of it in baby reindeer like when he is going through the um the the newspaper uh clippings that he finds out about this person and like there's some kind of mention of you know oh she harassed a lawmaker and his wife and
Guest:And that's one of the reasons why people have kind of identified this actual woman as the as the person being represented on the show, because that happened.
Guest:There was the wife of a parliament member in the UK who accused this woman of stalking and got a restraining order issued.
Guest:So it's very illuminating to watch those two things.
Guest:OK.
Marc:I don't know how to segue away from that, but I do want to ask you about David Lynch passing.
Marc:So I, you know, what I normally do when, you know, something happens where like, you know, someone dies, I usually, you know, look through my podcast to see if you guys ever talked about David Lynch or to David Lynch.
Marc:You guys never did, but you did have a bonus episode with Kit talking David Lynch movies with Mark.
Marc:Do you remember that?
Guest:Oh, yeah.
Guest:Kit's a huge fan.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Are you a fan of David Lynch?
Guest:I wouldn't say I'm... Well, I would say that when I was younger, I was actively not a fan.
Guest:And I think now... And I think that had a lot to do with a college roommate...
Guest:and he was a huge David Lynch fan and so I think he came to represent David Lynch the David Lynch oeuvre to me and so I did not like David Lynch movies I would say as I got older I wouldn't ever call myself a David Lynch fan but I would call myself a David Lynch appreciator I was very happy that he was out in the world making his idiosyncratic film and and not apologizing for it and being um and not compromising and
Guest:Basically being like, this is what I make.
Guest:I don't care what you like or what you say I should make.
Guest:It's this and I don't have to explain it and I don't have to talk about it even.
Guest:Which is one of the reasons why we never had him on.
Guest:We tried to have him on many times and he's just one of those guys who doesn't do things like that and wouldn't probably be a very forthcoming interview.
Guest:It'd be like, you know, Harry Dean Stanton was with Mark, I would guess.
Guest:I would guess that's why they were friends.
Marc:Yeah, yeah.
Marc:Well, you know, Mark does mention at the end of that episode, and by the way, I just want to say, apparently I started the David Lynch kit episode and I stopped 14 minutes in, which basically sums up my David Lynch experience where I'm like, okay, I get it.
Marc:I'm good.
Marc:And I don't know if I need to move on.
Marc:But Mark mentions that...
Marc:Marilyn Manson does an impersonation of David Lynch.
Guest:I'm loathe to draw attention to this because he has just been so much revealed about Marilyn Manson.
Guest:That's that's unfavorable.
Guest:And it seems like a kind of truly, you know, person.
Guest:Yeah, like, you know, it's all it's all accusations.
Guest:And obviously, you know, it's he's not been adjudicated in a court of law on this, but like the it doesn't sound pleasant.
Guest:Let's put it that way.
Guest:And just knowing that he was guilty.
Guest:you know, inebriated during the interview that Mark did with him is also like, I don't tend to give it a lot of play, but that being said, the caveats galore, I will say in that episode that we do with him, he does a tremendously funny David Lynch impression.
Marc:It's like top, top tier.
Marc:Yeah, it's very good.
Marc:It's very, very good impersonation.
Marc:With that being said, he's still a weird guy.
Marc:And I didn't know that he was drunk.
Guest:Oh, yeah.
Guest:Well, you know, Mark said that he drank from a Fiji water bottle the whole time and he just reeked of booze.
Guest:So he does not believe...
Guest:that he was drinking water out of that bottle and uh you know he you can hear him he's slurring his speech and and as the thing goes on we we thought heavily about should we not air this and ultimately our thought was like that's a pretty good representation of who the guy is actually yeah that's true was was that the i mean i guess you guys wouldn't really know but you know was there anyone else that was ever inebriated on mike
Marc:Not at a live show.
Guest:Hard to say.
Guest:And hard to say without like making some kind of untoward accusation.
Guest:Yeah, sure.
Guest:I will say that while we, and I won't, again, it's like I'm not going to accuse anybody of abusing alcohol or anything.
Guest:But I will say that while we did our Zoom interviews, it was very noticeable that Stanley Tucci had a glass of red wine while he talked to Mark.
Guest:The Tucci.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Conclave's own.
Marc:All right.
Marc:Yeah, maybe he was just getting over not being Pope.
Marc:Maybe.
Marc:I mean, that would cause me to drink.
Marc:Well, anyway, I'm going to try to maybe see Mulholland Drive in the theater because my wife wants to see it.
Marc:And I'm like, sure, let's go see Mulholland Drive in the dreamscape of David Lynch.
Guest:You know, it's a great way to look at Mulholland Drive.
Guest:And let's go back to who's almost become one of the patron saints of our little show here is Roger Ebert.
Guest:There's a fun video going around that shows Roger Ebert talking to David Lynch on the red carpet of somewhere.
Guest:It might be Cannes, might be Venice, something like that at a film festival.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And Roger Ebert was kind of famously a naughty David Lynch proponent.
Guest:You know, he gave thumbs down to a lot of his most famous films.
Guest:He hated Blue Velvet, right?
Guest:And, you know, had a big argument with Siskel on the show about Blue Velvet.
Guest:And so, you know, I think he liked the straight story very much, but that's a departure kind of film for David Lynch.
Guest:But thumbs down to like Wild at Heart, thumbs down to Twin Peaks Firewalk with Me, thumbs down to Dune, all that stuff.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Mulholland drive comes out and he gave it four stars and he says one, a wonderful movie and talked it up throughout the, you know, the year.
Guest:And so then David Lynch sees him at this award ceremony, whatever it was.
Guest:And he's like, you know, Roger first tries to ask him some question about the movie and David Lynch, you know, pie faces it like he does.
Guest:It just was like, how are you doing Roger?
Guest:And he's like, you know, Oh yeah.
Guest:You know, now he can't answer his question or whatever.
Guest:But, um,
Guest:They talk a little bit more, say something.
Guest:And then David Lynch says, well, well, Roger, I just want to really thank you for really supporting the film.
Guest:You really brought it to the attention of a lot of people.
Guest:And Roger Ebert, it's like, you know, he's not paid to give endorsements or anything.
Guest:So he's just like, it's a good film.
Guest:It deserved it.
Guest:And he talks about how he's going to bring it to his audience.
Guest:um, the college where he teaches at and, and show it piece by piece.
Guest:And, uh, you know, minute by minute, they can stop each frame and do whatever.
Guest:And David Lynch says something like, well, good.
Guest:I hope maybe you'll understand it.
Guest:And, uh, Roger says, well, I emotionally understand it already.
Guest:And David Lynch goes, yep, that's all you need.
Guest:You know?
Guest:And it's like, that's,
Guest:Right.
Guest:That's the way to look at it.
Guest:Like, and I, like, it's one of those, like, oh, I get it now moments with that guy where I'm like, yeah, you know, you don't necessarily, these are not necessarily narrative films and you don't have to experience them the way you experience other films.
Guest:Uh, this is, this guy's art and you either take it or you don't.
Guest:Right.
Marc:Uh, but I am interested in, uh, and seeing other things on the big screen, maybe a Mad Max or something.
Yeah.
Guest:Ah, well, you know, this comes up because I should do a little preview here for everyone.
Guest:There is a podcast that I was a guest on once called The Cinephiles, and that's hosted by Steve Morris and John Rocha.
Guest:And they do these incredibly long, deep dives into any given movie.
Guest:And there's usually some reason or hinge point to the film that they're talking about.
Guest:They invited me on last year to talk about Total Recall.
Guest:And we went for four hours across two recordings talking about Total Recall.
Guest:Not one of the movies that made it onto the AFI's top 100.
Guest:Not Citizen Kane.
Guest:Total Recall.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So you could imagine what it was like for them to contact me, Steve and John, and ask me to come on one of their first episodes of the new year to talk about Mad Max Fury Road.
Guest:I said to them, it's like being invited to be in a wedding party after one double date.
Guest:Like, like that is a lot of pressure.
Guest:But I did record that with them.
Guest:You will, that will be premiering soon and it will only be the first part.
Guest:We're going to have to record multiple parts to that episode.
Guest:But because of that,
Guest:I kind of had to immerse myself in the world of Mad Max for a week.
Guest:And I knew that I was going to basically take up all my free time doing that.
Guest:So I said to Chris, hey, why don't you, if you have any interest, don't treat it like homework, but if you have any interest...
Guest:Enjoy some Mad Max.
Guest:I don't even want to know what he watched or when he watched it or if he didn't watch anything or, you know, there's there's a great book out called Blood, Sweat and Chrome, which is the story of Mad Max Fury Road by the author Kyle Buchanan.
Guest:And I said, you know, here's Mad Max stuff.
Guest:Take in as much or as little as you want and we'll catch up about it because I will be full of Mad Max in my head.
Guest:So as not to get redundant with what I talk about on the cinephiles, I would actually say, like, let's kind of avoid fully talking about Fury Road.
Guest:I mean, obviously, we can bring it up and refer to it as much as we want, but I don't want to go through it like a movie.
Guest:What I do want to know from you is how did that go for you in terms of being told, go experience Mad Max?
Guest:Like, what did you do?
Marc:Well, what I did was I watched every Mad Max movie.
Guest:You really did?
Marc:You watched all of them?
Marc:Even Furiosa.
Marc:You watched it again?
Marc:Yeah, I watched it again.
Marc:Amazing.
Marc:I'm so excited to hear this.
Marc:And can I just tell you, I've never seen a Mad Max movie besides Fury Road and Furiosa before.
Guest:Well, we went to see Furiosa together.
Marc:Yeah, but those are the only two.
Marc:When I was watching the first three, I was like, I have never seen any of these movies.
Guest:So what did you think going into Fury Road the first time?
Guest:You were just like, this is a thing I never gave a shit about.
Guest:I'll watch this one.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I mean, I get it.
Marc:I saw the trailer.
Marc:I get it.
Marc:It's dystopian.
Marc:And it used to be Mel Gibson.
Marc:Now it's Tom Hardy.
Marc:So that's all I needed.
Marc:And Fury Road was amazing.
Marc:So yeah, I feel like I wasn't going to bone up on my Mad Max.
Guest:But quite frankly, the amazing thing about the franchise is that they're all created in a way where you can pick up any one of them at any time in any order.
Guest:There's no continuity to them.
Guest:There's no temporal space that they all need to exist in.
Guest:You know, Miller has George Miller, who, you know.
Guest:created them and, and is the, the lifeblood of the franchise.
Guest:He explained it in a way.
Guest:I think that it really makes it understandable that he sees them as folk tales in the sense that like, if you think about the series of Mad Max movies as all stories being told by people,
Guest:some future kid in the wasteland right this is what they would tell exactly campfire stories and like these are their origins these are stories they're telling about heroes they're myths right right and so if you look at it like that it makes sense that there's all these kind of weird little differences between movie and movie how they don't necessarily match up with a timeline or anything it's like you know the the gospels in the bible right
Guest:Like you're like, oh yeah, these are the same stories, but they're kind of different in each one, you know?
Guest:And I love looking at it like that.
Guest:And because of that, you can just kind of pick up any one at any time and enjoy it for what it is.
Guest:It doesn't have to be like, oh, now I'm on part three.
Guest:I got to get through part three and now move on to part four.
Marc:Right.
Marc:But I will tell you, there are similarities.
Marc:And for me, what I picked up the most, and it's because I was watching it at home, it was cold out, so I was just like hunkered down and watching them.
Marc:Each Mad Max movie is, and it's just like, it's just like, you know, in Fast and the Furious, where Dom lives his life a quarter tank at a time.
Marc:Mad Max movies live their life 30 minutes at a time.
Marc:Totally.
Marc:You can set your clock to it.
Marc:You can totally set your clock to it.
Marc:It's like, oh, this must be the end of the 30 minutes because now we're just switching gears to something else and it's going to last for 30 minutes.
Guest:Yep.
Guest:I think that that is, I mean, you're totally right.
Guest:That's a great observation.
Guest:And you know what I came away with figuring out was that after he makes Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome,
Guest:There's a little bit of gestation period, but he already kind of had the idea for Fury Road in his head.
Guest:Like he's like, I want to make a next one that's just a chase the whole time.
Guest:Like the whole movie is the chase.
Guest:So that that thing is already germinating in his head.
Guest:And it goes away.
Guest:He gets pulled into other projects here and there.
Guest:He's attached to making contact for a period of time before he gets fired from that.
Guest:And then the studio hires Robert Zemeckis.
Guest:Interestingly enough, it's because he gets fired from contact that he sues Warner Brothers for breach of contract, which means he gets control of the Mad Max franchise again.
Guest:That's part of the settlement.
Guest:I love that.
Guest:So now he's sitting there in the late 90s with Mad Max again.
Guest:He's thinking about what to do with it.
Guest:and he gets an overture to make it as a tv show and they go at it like in earnest to kind of try to develop this as a tv show and in the meantime like one of the dudes he's who's helping him develop it as a tv show is a comic book writer who kind of sketches it out like like storyboards with comic book panels and
Guest:And this guy's like, why are you going to make a TV show?
Guest:You should make another movie.
Guest:Your movies are what's awesome.
Guest:And he slowly moves away from the idea of it being a TV show and turns it into Fury Road.
Guest:But go watch Fury Road.
Guest:Like you said, at the minute of 30 minutes is when that flare goes out on the sand to end that first chase.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And then and then at the 60 minute mark, it's when the chase through the canyon ends.
Guest:Like I'm like, this dude totally took the idea of like making episodic TV like it was in his mind as he put this movie together.
Guest:It would work as a TV show.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And you know what?
Marc:Thunderdome works exactly the same as does the original Mad Max, which I, again, never seen.
Marc:And gotta say, he wasn't that mad throughout this movie.
Marc:I was waiting for what exactly would make him mad.
Guest:Well, the funny thing is, like, I've always just assumed that mad meant he's crazy, right?
Guest:But I think in that first movie, you were supposed to mean that he got mad.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like, I think that that's the point that he's like, this guy was trying to keep it together.
Guest:Then they killed his family and now he's pissed.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Well, but before his family gets killed, like, I'm like, oh man, is it, is it the butter and honey sandwich?
Marc:Is that what makes him so angry?
Marc:Like, like, I was just like, when's he going to get angry?
Marc:And like, yeah, like apparently, you know, murdering of one's family would do it.
Guest:So yeah.
Guest:What did you think of that first movie?
Guest:I'm interested.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:I thought it was kind of great.
Marc:Like there were cinematic like shots that were so effective.
Marc:Like when someone gets crushed by an 18-wheeler, like there is a split second shot, like almost like, remember in Fight Club where they just like put in- Flash frames.
Marc:Yeah, yeah.
Marc:A flash frame of a penis.
Marc:Well, in this movie, they do a flash frame of eyeballs.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And it's so effective.
Marc:And so it's also comic-y, but it's also just so effective.
Marc:And they actually bring it back in Fury Road, I think.
Guest:No, in the Road Warrior, in the second movie.
Marc:Oh, yeah, yeah, in Road Warrior.
Guest:It's right when Lord Humongous is going to crush that other dude.
Marc:That's right.
Marc:That's right.
Marc:And I just thought that was really inventive and really great.
Marc:And yeah, I thought I thought that was a well made 90 minute movie.
Marc:It was like it just like the Fast and the Furious movie, you know, franchise that this franchise takes a departure after the first one.
Marc:But but what did you think of the first Mad Max?
Guest:Well, so I grew up not really knowing much about it other than when it was on TV, it was dubbed in English.
Marc:And so I remember... Wait, it's already in English.
Guest:Sorry.
Guest:It was dubbed with American actors doing American English, not Australian English, right?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So, so, uh, you don't hear, you didn't hear Mel Gibson's voice in America until that movie was, I think it was like re-released in like 2010 or something like that.
Guest:Like it was a very long time before they released the, um, the Australian dub, uh, to America.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:So who was, what did he sound like?
Marc:Do you sound British?
Guest:You can find it online.
Guest:You can, yeah, there's YouTube clips of, of stuff from that.
Guest:But I, it, it, um, because of that and because like I grew up with a lot of like UHF TV where you'd see like, you know, I don't know, Hercules movies and stuff where like, it was like a Greek film that had been dubbed into English and, um, you know, it looked cheesy and you, you know, just came to
Guest:even as a kid understand that like this was chintzy crap and, and you, you know, so you didn't pay it much mind.
Guest:It was like the garbage that went on in the middle of the day, you know?
Guest:And, um, I remember seeing Mad Max like clips of it because I didn't sit down and watch the whole movie, but it was on the TV, turn it, what's this movie?
Guest:Oh, it's Mad Max.
Guest:That's that same thing.
Guest:That's the Thunderdome.
Guest:Right.
Guest:But this is this guy and he's clearly dubbed.
Guest:Like there's lip flap going on.
Guest:I know that's not what he sounds like.
Guest:So I just like, yeah,
Guest:paid it no mind whatsoever.
Guest:And, and then I remember Mad Max beyond Thunderdome.
Guest:Like it's interesting.
Guest:It just fits into a slot in my mind as a, as a kid, the same way, like the Conan movies did or like any kind of weird fantasy movie from that era, like beast master or like sword and the sorcerer, things like that.
Guest:Like,
Guest:I didn't differentiate between them as like quality or not quality.
Guest:They were just all like, yeah, fantasy movies, Krull, Red Sonja, whatever.
Guest:And, and it's in my brain pocket like that.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So it wasn't until I was older, definitely like in my twenties.
Guest:And I had just seen so many people and so many things that I'd read and about what a masterpiece was.
Guest:the road warrior is the second movie, which I'll always just call the road warrior.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Um, like I get it.
Guest:It's called Mad Max two.
Guest:The road warrior is a way better title.
Guest:Like it's a reason why they called the wrestlers, the road warriors.
Guest:Cause it's such an awesome name.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And that movie, like the first... So I had never watched it.
Guest:And I watched it, you know, sometime like in my 20s.
Guest:And I was like, oh, I get it.
Guest:Everybody's right.
Guest:This is amazing.
Guest:Like, how did they do this?
Guest:How did they not kill everyone involved in making this?
Guest:Did you know there's a stunt in that movie where...
Guest:The guy is on a motorcycle and he goes off the side of the road and flips over the handlebars.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like, I remember seeing that and being like, wow, that was crazy how they got that dummy to fly off so perfectly.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:that was a real person wasn't it that is guy norris a stunt man who becomes the stunt coordinator on mad max fury road like he's in charge of all the stunts on that but yeah he broke both legs that was a total accident they were it was not supposed to happen but they just caught it on film and they're like well sorry but that looks great that's going in the movie that's wild
Guest:Like there's a shot in, in one of them.
Guest:I think it's in, I think it's in the, yeah, it's in the first Mad Max where he's killing all the bikers and he crashes a couple into each other and one bike slides into the other guy's head.
Guest:Like that's real.
Marc:Seems real bad.
Marc:Well, that's the thing about the first movie or first two movies.
Marc:They have stunts.
Marc:It's like stunt heavy.
Guest:Oh, I mean, but that's also the same thing with Fury Road.
Guest:Well, sure.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Fury Road is like 80% practical stunts.
Marc:Which is really something to behold.
Marc:And honestly, it's why I feel like Furiosa is not, is lesser than, because I feel like it wasn't as much practical effects.
Guest:Well, here's what I would say about that.
Guest:Whether it's practical effects or not, it's the one movie that feels like an error in judgment.
Mm-hmm.
Guest:And it's not that it's bad.
Guest:I, I, I like it a lot, but it's still of the five to me, it's the least.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And it's the least because I don't need to know all that stuff.
Guest:Hmm.
Guest:I,
Guest:I think one of the great treasures of the series is how little exposition there is, how little backstory there is, how they each become these individual slices of, like we said, folklore tales that are told in the wasteland.
Guest:I don't really want to know anything more about the bullet farmer or the people eater or the, the inner workings of the Citadel.
Guest:I don't want to know about how Furiosa lost her arm.
Guest:Like it's right.
Guest:Like the Lord humongous.
Guest:is awesome because you know nothing about him.
Guest:Your brain comes up with everything there is to know.
Guest:You know, Immortan Joe is way awesome when the fact that the first thing you're seeing of that guy is like him being caked in dust and whatever and then putting on his armor and it's like,
Guest:yeah i don't need to know anything else got it right there he's darth vader it's like yeah right yeah you know i don't need a prequel and like i'm sorry about the prequels they're just not not great like i just don't i don't love a prequel no and well the other thing is the you know you notice you're you're talking about these half hour bits furiosa two and a half hours man
Marc:A lot of half hour bits though.
Marc:They, and they all clock into the same half hour.
Guest:But that's too many half hours.
Guest:I mean, like, so it's like when the movie is being kind of modularly put together like that, the length does become an issue.
Guest:And like those first movies are lean and mean, man.
Guest:They're like 90 minutes, 90 minutes, you know, hour and 40 minutes.
Marc:It's the first three.
Marc:Can I also say about Furiosa, and it's hinted at at the end of that book, is that, oh, well, they start talking about Trump being president.
Marc:Like, oh, well, you can see this sort of future.
Marc:And it's like, oh, that's bait, kind of like Max in Fury Road.
Marc:And
Marc:you can see them leaning heavily into like, let's make this topical.
Guest:Yes.
Marc:You know, and it, and just like every, everything that everyone's who's tried to lampoon this president, it fails miserably.
Marc:And I think that is for me, the thing that's like, nah, it's just, it's just not working for me.
Guest:Well, think about that though, because you, did you, you, I'm assuming you rewatched Fury Road as you went on this little journey here.
Guest:Hell yes, I did.
Guest:So so here's the thing that's made in.
Guest:They've been making the movie for 30 years before it actually gets made.
Guest:You know, it's a very long gestation process.
Guest:And then it comes around to, you know, they start shooting in 2010.
Guest:Right.
Guest:It doesn't come out till 2015 comes out in May of 2015.
Guest:Donald Trump does not come down the escalator to declare his candidacy until June of 2015.
Guest:So he's not even a thing yet.
Guest:And yet watching Fury Road today, that guy is Donald Trump.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And you don't need to make the analysis like exactly archetypes will line up.
Guest:Exactly.
Guest:Don't need your help doing it.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:You didn't need to underline it and put an exclamation point.
Guest:He's more Donald Trump today than he was when they made it.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Like it's it's it's it just speaks to the universality of like, you know, character and and and what these stories tell you and why when they work, they work.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah, for sure.
Marc:And you know what?
Marc:Dinner work is Thunderdome.
Marc:Thunderdome.
Marc:So after so I'm binging these Mad Max movies and Thunderdome, the third one in this, you know, at this point, trilogy of movies.
Marc:It is so compared.
Marc:I can compare it to Return of the Jedi so much.
Guest:Well, they're very, they does seem very Ewok-y at one point.
Marc:So many Ewoks.
Marc:Like there's, there's a lot of stuff going on.
Guest:Wait, I gotta, I gotta stop you here one second.
Guest:What's that?
Guest:You're going to tell me that you don't love Return of the Jedi?
Marc:Oh no.
Marc:I, I, I mean, I love Return of the Jedi, but I mean, you know, this movie seemed like they were trying to do a Return of the Jedi with Mad Max.
Guest:Well, I think I understand everyone who's ever watched Thunderdome and come away with a feeling like it's lesser than the other films.
Guest:I totally understand it.
Guest:What I would say is that my reaction to it this time was probably based on my mental low expectation of it was that, you know, it was like...
Guest:just every standard mid eighties fantasy film.
Guest:And I watched it this time and realized how much it is of a piece with this whole world they created.
Guest:Like, yes, the tone is weird.
Guest:Cause it's not the same as like the, the road warrior or fury road, which it, it in between, but yeah,
Guest:It's like this weird thing.
Guest:If you're going to conceive of these all as like separate stories that maybe even have a separate narrator, a separate vantage point, like this is one you can watch with your family.
Guest:Like this is like the family Mad Max movie.
Guest:I could show this to my kid tomorrow and he'd be totally fine.
Guest:He would not be freaked out by anything.
Guest:It's a totally like good adventure story for a kid.
Guest:And like...
Guest:i didn't mind it at all and on that level i was like oh good i'm like i've been i've been through the ringer with the like horrible depravity of that first movie like you know just like it's very realistic they're not in a post-apocalyptic wasteland yet no so it's like there's like police officers and like children and stuff yeah it almost feels like last house on the left or something where you're like this is gonna be like manson family shit i don't want to watch this
Guest:And and like and then you get into like the kind of crazy phantasmagoria of that second movie, which is just it's one of the best things ever made that that like the world building of that second movie is so great.
Guest:And so like to have this tone shift to this third movie where it's like this one you can watch with kids and there's like.
Guest:fun things in it.
Guest:And it's not all like dour and depressing the whole time.
Guest:Like, I don't know.
Guest:I jibed with it this time.
Guest:I can totally understand not getting it.
Guest:And I get why it's like everyone's least favorite.
Marc:Is it everyone's least favorite?
Marc:I think so.
Guest:I mean, I think consensus wise it is.
Marc:I mean, there's a scene where Max is walking up to, you know, the Atomic Cafe or wherever.
Marc:And first of all, he has to, like, coat check all of his guns.
Marc:That's great.
Marc:2,000 guns?
Marc:And I was like, there's no chance he gets all these guns back, okay?
Marc:First of all, you need a ticket.
Marc:Like, hey, I'm number 42.
Marc:Where are all my guns?
Guest:Oh, really?
Guest:You don't think you'd just be like, it's me, the gun guy?
Guest:Yes, I don't know.
Guest:He'd be like, they better all come back.
Marc:There's a guy selling water and then like Max like pulls out like a regular counter.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Just as that, like the world has changed ever since we've seen Mad Max before this.
Guest:Yeah, but that's a great thing.
Guest:The world can change as much or as little as they want them to.
Guest:They don't have to be the same.
Marc:But also the – so first of all, the Atomic Cafe, great name for a cafe in the nuclear fallout future.
Marc:It's really great.
Marc:But Tina Turner, like when she's introduced, there is a great saxophone like entrance.
Marc:I'm like, this is a sexy introduction, isn't it?
Guest:yeah but then the amazing thing is it's because she has a guy there she insists to play saxophone music for her which also it's like this weird like in these you know how there's these basic little continuity things it's like oh yeah his wife used to play the saxophone for him and he'd sit around and enjoy it you know so he walks into this place and he's like he makes a face he's like hmm saxophone yeah
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:Totally.
Guest:But it's like, I love that it's not on the soundtrack.
Guest:It's like, it's like diegetic.
Guest:It's in the room.
Marc:Right.
Marc:And he has to fight the blaster.
Marc:Master blaster.
Marc:In, in this, in the Thunderdome.
Marc:And this is probably what I thought was going to be like the crowning achievement of this movie.
Marc:And, and I just thought it was going to be like a, you know,
Marc:hand-to-hand fight sort of thing but no they're on like they're aerialists with like bungee cords and it's so bizarre i could not keep track of the action like they were jumping around trying to get a chainsaw and then like you know all this you know other like you know weapons it was it was it was quite uh quite a spectacle
Guest:I would say that that's the one thing I can never ding this movie on, or any of these movies, which is not understanding the action.
Guest:I find it to be the best of any action filmmaking.
Guest:He is always crystal, crystal clear with what's going on.
Guest:And one of the things is because he forces the cinematographers to shoot everything in the center.
Guest:Like he wants... I noticed that.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Like everyone's center.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And it's because he requires that because of how he's going to edit.
Guest:And that he's like, I'm going to edit these things fast.
Guest:And so I always want you to be not confused about what you're supposed to be focusing on.
Guest:So your action is always in the center.
Guest:Therefore, I can...
Guest:Cut quickly and you won't be distracted.
Guest:And, you know, I mostly was noticing it during watching Fury Road again, because there's so much action that's like, it's got that over cranked look that a lot of modern action movies have where they, you know, the frame rate speeds up.
Guest:So the things look, you know, janky.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And despite that, you know how many times you watch an action scene and that it's doing that and you're like, who's fighting where now?
Guest:What?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You never think that in that movie.
Guest:That movie is, it's always crystal clear what's going on.
Marc:It's the movie that Zack Snyder fans think they're getting with Zack Snyder movies.
Marc:Like when I'm watching Fury Road, I'm like, oh wow, this is sped down so beautifully.
Marc:Like it is just, it is a masterpiece.
Marc:Like, yeah, I'm so glad you get to keep on talking about Fury Road for, I don't know, next month probably.
Guest:It may be.
Guest:By the way, speaking of Zack Snyder, did you did you get to the part of that book where it talks about how George Miller was going to make the Justice League?
Marc:Yes, I sure did.
Marc:Yeah, that was crazy.
Marc:I've always seen like the storyboards and like the the cast lineup and stuff.
Marc:It is a it's a miss for the Warner Brothers group.
Marc:They just haven't been able to figure it out.
Guest:Well, I thought it was interesting that they were basically doing it the same way they gave Christopher Nolan the Batman movies.
Guest:They were like, yeah, we don't know what to do with this.
Guest:You take it.
Guest:Try to make something.
Marc:They never know what to do with it.
Marc:Can they just sell it to someone and they'll figure it out?
Marc:Because they don't know what they're doing.
Guest:Although he did kind of dodge a bullet in not making it with Armie Hammer as Batman.
Marc:Yeah, yeah, that would have been bad.
Marc:But I did like the guy from the OC as the Flash.
Marc:I thought that would have been great.
Marc:But yeah.
Guest:He was the Flash, Adam Brody, right?
Guest:Yep.
Guest:And the guy who plays Morton Joe and the toe cutter from the first movie, same guy playing both parts.
Guest:With Martian Manhunt.
Guest:He was going to be Martian Manhunter.
Guest:That would have been great.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And then the woman, you made that line about that's bait.
Guest:So that's that moment where Max drives up and he sees the woman on top of the perch.
Guest:And then she comes down and finds out that she's one of the people who Charlize Theron is going to meet.
Guest:She was going to be Wonder Woman.
Marc:Oh, no kidding.
Marc:Her?
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:That's wild.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Huh.
Marc:I honestly wish that, uh, that, that movie got made in a different universe.
Guest:I'm going to throw this out there though.
Guest:Maybe it's not something you are prepared enough to discuss.
Guest:So if you feel like you need to take some time and think about it, I'm okay with that.
Marc:What's that?
Guest:But I think that pound for pound is,
Guest:The Mad Max franchise is the greatest movie series ever made.
Guest:And what I mean by that is it is the one franchise where all its movies...
Guest:are very good to masterpiece and it's five and oh, like there's nothing in this five set of five movies.
Guest:That's any less than very good.
Guest:And so I can't come up with,
Guest:with another film franchise that does that.
Guest:There's plenty that did it, right?
Guest:Like they had like three excellent movies, but then kept making them, right?
Guest:Like, and so you have these stragglers that tear down the whole average.
Guest:I think this is the greatest punching average of any movie franchise.
Marc:Are we talking Madam Web?
Marc:Like Madam Web is part of this.
Guest:That's the other side.
Guest:Do you have an O for five?
Guest:Right.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Then yes.
Guest:The Sony non Spider-Man Spider-Verse.
Guest:That counts.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:OK.
Marc:That's an interesting.
Marc:I mean, I'm going to give that a think.
Guest:I mean... Like, it's one of those things where it's like, oh, Lord of the Rings.
Guest:That would have been it, but then they added those Hobbit movies.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So then no dice.
Marc:I mean, just The Matrix, you know, has those clunkers in the middle there.
Marc:In the middle?
Marc:One good movie.
Marc:True, true.
Marc:Oh man, that is an interesting thought experiment.
Marc:Is Man Max the best movie franchise ever?
Guest:It's like the, who's that guy?
Guest:John Cazale, the actor from, you know, Fredo from The Godfather.
Guest:He's that actor who's like, four for four, baby.
Guest:Hit it and quit.
Guest:I made four movies.
Guest:They're the greatest movies and I'm out.
Marc:That's right.
Marc:Oh man.
Guest:I don't think he chose to be out, but still.
Marc:No, no, he did not choose to be out, but that's just how it happened.
Marc:Oh, that's fascinating.
Marc:I'm going to come back next week and probably try to poke holes in that.
Guest:Yeah, chew it over.
Guest:Food for thought.
Guest:And anyone out there who has some ideas about that as well, please send that in.
Guest:I'm sorry that we didn't tip you off to this Mad Max adventure.
Guest:You might have gone on it with us, but it did come up this week, and I just had to kind of cram for it.
Guest:And it looks like Chris crams for it as well.
Guest:So thank you for doing that, buddy.
Guest:No problem.
Guest:If you're interested in the book we were talking about, I'll put that in the link in the episode description.
Guest:Blood, Sweat, and Chrome.
Guest:The Story of Mad Max Fury Road by Kyle Buchanan.
Guest:And any comments you want to send us, we'll have the link there in the episode description as well.
Guest:We will be back next week with a milestone.
Guest:It's a milestone, Chris.
Guest:Really?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I don't know if you're aware of this.
Guest:Of course you're not, because you're not crazy.
Guest:You didn't sit around counting our episodes.
Guest:But next week is the 100th Friday show.
Marc:No shit.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:We will have done this 100 times.
Marc:Wow.
Marc:Wow.
Marc:That's amazing.
Marc:I can't believe you've endured this.
Marc:You and the listeners.
Guest:I was going to say, I'm not the one you got to worry about, buddy.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:We're talking about the paying customer.
Guest:Well, anyway, thank you.
Guest:Any of you have been with us for one episode or 10 episodes or 100 episodes.
Guest:We will be here with you next week.
Guest:And until then, I'm Brendan, and that's Chris.
Guest:Peace.