BONUS The Friday Show - Down Mexico Way
Marc:Mexico City, big thumbs up from- Now, before you went, had you practiced your Canadian accent so that no one mistook you for an American?
Guest:Dude, you know, can I tell you, I have a 225 day goddamn Duolingo streak going, right?
Guest:And it helped me so little.
Yeah.
Marc:Hey, Chris.
Marc:Hola.
Marc:Listen to you.
Marc:You know all the language already.
Marc:Ah, muy bien.
Marc:These are tough ones.
Marc:You just got back from Mexico.
Marc:Was it like yesterday?
Marc:Yeah, yesterday.
Marc:Oh, very nice.
Marc:Well, welcome back.
Marc:I want to hear all about your trip to Mexico.
Marc:Was it only Mexico City?
Guest:Yeah, it was only Mexico City.
Marc:And you do this now regularly, I think, right?
Marc:You guys always make a trip on like Super Bowl weekend.
Guest:Yeah, it's pretty great.
Guest:I highly recommend it because A, I don't give a shit about the Super Bowl and B, who cares about this?
Guest:Like, I don't know.
Guest:Like, why bother?
Marc:Do you get like good deals because nobody travels?
Guest:I believe so.
Guest:Like every time we've gone, it's like, oh, you know, this is affordable.
Guest:It's a, you know, it's not astronomical.
Marc:But now there's been plenty of times where you've gone somewhere and then you go like do a, you know, like you're at some bar and you...
Marc:watch a little bit of the super bowl or whatever.
Guest:You didn't even do that this time.
Guest:Not this time.
Guest:I met out with my buddy Ivy and her new boyfriend and yeah, we just, I just ignored the whole thing.
Guest:And that seemed to be a bad idea because there was a lot of like, you know, we, we have a, we have a text thread and there's just a lot of memes that I have no idea what they're about.
Marc:Like there's, I think you're totally fine not knowing that.
Marc:And I think, I think you did the absolute right thing.
Marc:It was a terrible game, very bad game.
Marc:Oh yeah.
Marc:And,
Marc:Every commercial was like the drunk Don Draper meme, but real.
Guest:Oh, really?
Marc:You know, like the Don Draper's drunk in front of the easel, the whiteboard.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And he's like pitching something ridiculous.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Every single commercial was just like, that probably shouldn't have left the drawing room.
Guest:Yeah, I have not seen one commercial.
Guest:The only thing I've seen was Kendrick Lamar and him smiling.
Marc:Well, that was from the halftime show.
Guest:Yeah, I'm sure.
Guest:So, okay.
Guest:So that wasn't a commercial or anything?
Guest:No.
Guest:Okay.
Marc:No, no, that was just him singing about Drake, which apparently everybody loved that.
Marc:I didn't even know, like, you know, you talked to me about that.
Marc:I barely knew what their beef was or whatever.
Marc:So I didn't, I didn't key into that.
Marc:The performance was good, but I didn't key into any of the stuff.
Marc:It was one of those years where I got very sad watching the festivities unfold, mostly because the game was bad and the culture around it was shitty.
Marc:Right from what we talked about last week about how they got rid of the... Yeah, but they fixed racism, right?
Marc:Yes, right, exactly.
Marc:Yes, that's why.
Marc:Starting there was off to a bad start, right?
Marc:Right.
Marc:And the Trump is there.
Marc:He's getting cheered.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:I'm like, what the fuck is this?
Marc:Why do I have this on?
Marc:And then every commercial that came on, like it was like a race to see which celebrity could run out of their dignity fastest.
Guest:Or race to the bottom.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And I was like, do none of these people have representatives anymore that are like, well, yeah, it's a lot of money, but also you'll look very foolish.
Marc:They don't.
Marc:Nobody, like everyone's just like, yeah, get that bag.
Marc:And it's ridiculous.
Marc:It's like...
Marc:They looked like fools.
Marc:Really?
Marc:All of them.
Marc:There's not one person.
Marc:Here's all you need to know.
Marc:There was an ad for Little Caesars.
Marc:Big bucks, fucking Little Caesars.
Marc:Pizza, pizza.
Marc:Wow.
Marc:And it was with Eugene Levy.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:And he was so excited about the pizza that his eyebrows flew off.
Marc:That was the whole fucking ad, was his eyebrows flying around the world.
Yeah.
Marc:Oh, fucking one hour later, there's a Pringles commercial with fucking Ron Swanson and a couple other actors, you know, so Nick Offerman.
Marc:I remember who, because I was just by this point, I was so numbed by it.
Marc:Their fucking mustaches fly off.
Marc:no that's the whole commercial no yes so how'd you like to be the guy in the second commercial during the super bowl where your facial hair flies off were you waiting for the third where you're like where's the macgyver one yeah i was just waiting for someone's dick to fly off that was that was
Marc:That's about where it was going next.
Marc:That was the level of lack of self-respect that was going on watching these things.
Marc:Jeremy Strong, the McConaughey is in two different ads with two different things.
Marc:And every single ad was just wall to wall.
Marc:These people covered in CGI.
Marc:Like there's one where seal, you know, the singer seal was a fucking seal.
Yeah.
Marc:Like they have his face on a seal.
Marc:I'm like, who didn't say seal?
Marc:This is it, man.
Guest:This is the bottom.
Guest:This is like Matthew Broderick.
Guest:Deck the halls.
Marc:This is deck the balls, man.
Marc:oh my shit i just couldn't believe it was just so so demoralizing like i i would if i were one of those people or if it's next year some celeb some celebrity who they're gonna offer fucking five million dollars to do an ad i would be like hey i have an idea you give me two million dollars it's a huge bargain i'm giving you
Marc:Cause you were going to give me five.
Marc:I just want two, but you have to write in the contract that you're not going to put a single fucking pixel of CGI nonsense on my face or body or anything like no AI changes.
Marc:No, whatever.
Marc:You got fucking Kieran Culkin is about to win an Oscar in a week and a half or whatever.
Marc:He's going to win a fucking Oscar.
Marc:And he was a beluga whale.
No,
Marc:i'm serious dude like i i it was it was what did i miss depressing holy shit that is just he was a whale yeah i mean that one was that was one of those ones where it was okay it's his voice people done voiceovers forever but they were clearly playing off the fact that like well this this whale is is is
Marc:roman roy right like he's he's got his attitude he's got his personality and everything it's like there was no way around it it was it was roman jesus christ jesus christ yeah yeah so you you did the right you made the right choice you had the right viewing option
Guest:Well, wait, so didn't they have like a Nickelodeon version of this?
Guest:Because that's what you did last year, no?
Marc:Yeah, but what happens every year?
Marc:The Super Bowl goes on a different network.
Marc:Oh, right.
Marc:So this was Fox, and they don't know nothing but, you know, presidents and fucking blonde news anchors.
Guest:Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Guest:They could have, well, no, they don't have the Simpsons anymore.
Guest:I was going to say they could do a Simpsons cast.
Marc:Well, they do have the Simpsons on Fox, but it is a Disney property.
Guest:Right, right, right, right.
Guest:That would have been, that would have been great.
Guest:But yeah, I don't, I don't know.
Guest:I guess they could have done a Bob's burger, you know, have Sam Cedar and a bunch of them do, do a bunch of, you know, Bob's burger.
Marc:I feel like everybody was just like, can we get in and get out?
Marc:Like that was the whole thing felt so tired.
Hmm.
Guest:Tom Brady, he stinks.
Guest:Oh, that's right.
Guest:That's his first Super Bowl.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:How was it?
Guest:He stinks.
Guest:He's terrible.
Guest:Kevin Burkhardt.
Marc:Kevin Burkhardt, he's very good.
Marc:We've known him from when he was the Mets sideline reporter.
Marc:But the broadcast was whatever.
Marc:It was a boring game.
Marc:So what are you going to do?
Guest:Right.
Guest:Well, what did they put on after?
Guest:Because that's usually like a thing.
Marc:Oh, I couldn't even tell you.
Marc:You're just out.
Marc:Done.
Marc:Hang on.
Marc:Well, I didn't even watch the whole game, so I can't really tell you, but show after the Super Bowl.
Marc:The floor.
Marc:Was it the floor?
Marc:What's the floor?
Marc:The floor is this fucking game show with Rob Lowe that is literally like capture the game show.
Marc:I'm serious.
Marc:You know what a capture is like where it's like the thing when you need to log into a website and it's like click on the things that are tires.
Marc:Right.
Marc:That's what this fucking show is.
Guest:I swear to God.
Guest:How did we run out of ideas for game shows?
Guest:That's insane.
Marc:What's the one on 30 Rock?
Marc:Homophone.
Guest:It's always the other one.
Guest:What you're doing is wrong.
Guest:Capture the game show.
Guest:Wait, I got to find a clip of the floor.
Guest:Standing in separate LED squares on a floor grid, contestants with expertise in a variety of trivia subjects challenge each other in head-to-head duels, and the winner of each duel take over all territory controlled by the loser.
Marc:I'm serious, dude.
Marc:You gotta watch this.
Marc:You gotta watch what this fucking show is.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:Cereal.
Guest:Oats.
Guest:Micro-oats.
Guest:Oatmeal.
Guest:Pass.
Guest:Pass!
Guest:Salt.
Guest:Pasta.
Guest:Rice.
Marc:what the corn popcorn kernels popcorn onion this is it's not even hard no it's just pictures of things you do this with babies look at little picture books oh what's that a potato oh great
Guest:Bullion.
Guest:Bullion cube.
Guest:Bullion?
Guest:What the fuck?
Guest:Ah, olives.
Guest:Capers.
Guest:Capers.
Guest:Pass on capers!
Guest:Look at Rob Lowe.
Guest:Rob Lowe makes a face.
Guest:Applesauce.
Guest:Lentil, dummy.
Marc:Dude, I guarantee that's why this show is on TV.
Marc:Just what you just did.
Marc:They're like, well, we'll take every fucking idiot watching this and make them feel like a goddamn genius.
Guest:It's like Wheel of Fortune, but really, really.
Guest:Way worse.
Guest:Look at this person's fate.
Marc:What's happening?
Marc:These experts, they got it wrong.
Who?
Marc:coffee beans coffee this is the this is the late in the round coffee mayonnaise that was the worst thing i've ever seen that's airing after the super bowl that's their thing that's their choice of like well we need to put our best show on after the super bowl it's it's like a story it's it's like a flip book for for like two-year-olds like here what's this it's a football let's
Guest:it's a basketball like that's a game that's on network television it's not on tubi this is on network television with rob low yeah this is we used to be there used to be a game show where you had to answer a question that was so hard it was worth a million dollars
Marc:That's what game shows were.
Guest:Dude, we're so far down idiocracy.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:That could have been in idiocracy and I just missed it.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Like just someone watching that stupid show.
Marc:Yeah, while they're jacking off.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Go away, baiting.
Yeah.
Guest:Wow.
Guest:What a mess.
Guest:Oh boy.
Marc:So yeah, you made the right choice to get out of town, but I'm hopeful that you were able, were you able to listen to some WTF while you were gone?
Guest:I sure as hell was.
Guest:By the way, James Mangold or Anthony Bourdain, I couldn't tell the difference.
Marc:I'm so glad that was exactly what I thought.
Guest:I was like, what just happened here?
Marc:Oh, that's funny.
Marc:I was like, oh, this guy sounds just like Anthony Bourdain.
Guest:So much like he he has like the presence and just the cadence of Anthony Bourdain.
Guest:I was like, can this guy just talk about food for like four seconds?
Marc:So you want to see if it really clicks in?
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:Like talk about these garbanzo beans that these idiots can't can't identify.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Oh, my God.
Marc:Can you imagine that?
Marc:Anthony Bourdain had to be like a guest commentator on the floor.
Guest:He would probably have, like, such a beautiful, like, dystopian poem about the state of our union.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Just like, we should just all just call it a day.
Guest:But he was great.
Guest:I'm really glad I watched that Mozart movie before listening to that episode.
Guest:Oh, it is.
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah, because without seeing Amadeus, I'd be like, what are they talking about Mozart so much?
Guest:But yeah, definitely, definitely checks out.
Guest:And yeah, it's a great companion to that movie, A Complete Unknown.
Guest:And, you know, we were talking and like, I think...
Guest:it has a chance to actually win best picture.
Marc:I could sneak in there.
Marc:Sure.
Guest:It's a soft, soft year.
Guest:And like Sing Sing isn't even in there.
Guest:Like, who do you think, like, who's your, what's the betting odds on a complete unknown winning?
Guest:Do you know?
Marc:I think it's like, well, if you believe those things, it's like a fourth place right now.
Guest:Oh, okay.
Marc:And the betting odds above it are on Onora and the Brutalist.
Marc:And number three, Conclave.
Marc:Oh, our boy Conclave.
Marc:I love it.
Marc:I love it.
Marc:So, yeah, but I agree.
Marc:It's one of those soft years.
Marc:You know, it's funny.
Marc:I said when the Oscar nominations were announced, I said kind of a boring year.
Marc:And someone wrote in saying, why would you say it's boring?
Marc:There's a lot of movies that you and Chris have talked about liking.
Marc:I'm not talking about it's boring because of the movies.
Marc:I'm talking about it's boring because they just picked all the ones that were like,
Marc:here oscar nominees you know like like the these movies might as well have come out in the theater with a thing on the poster that said future best picture nominee right like that's they're all designed for that like i would say like the the most like interesting of the picks is the substance and
Marc:And that got in there because everybody, all the heat is on to me for the movie.
Marc:Right.
Marc:So, uh, I, I, I just, I always like, you know, even the golden globes this year had some more creative choices, right.
Marc:Had some more like thinking that wasn't just the conventional wisdom of what's going to be the Oscar nominees, you know?
Marc:Right.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Like a real paint by numbers type of selection.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Which it makes it's it's crazy because there's the whole point like in in 2008, when they expanded the number of films was like it was because the Dark Knight didn't get nominated when.
Marc:And it was the previous year when it was five films.
Marc:And they were like, everyone was like, well, that's stupid.
Marc:And there's all these like kind of prejudices against popular films in the Academy.
Marc:And everybody just votes for like the things that get campaigned for.
Marc:Right.
Marc:And so you had like five films that were going to like, you know, whatever Harvey Weinstein decided he was going to campaign for that year.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Right.
Marc:And so they expanded the roster.
Marc:And I remember the next year, it had District 9.
Marc:Remember that movie?
Marc:Oh, yeah.
Marc:That was nominated for Best Picture.
Marc:Oh, wow.
Marc:And Up, the Pixar film that got nominated for Best Picture.
Marc:So it's like they were doing that initially.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:And then they just stopped.
Marc:But then now it's just filled by...
Marc:Five more versions of those original five things.
Guest:Right.
Marc:It was just like the movie where the studio released it by campaigning for it as an Oscar film.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And like in like in that vein, Inside Out 2 should have, you know, been in a best picture consideration.
Marc:At least in the discussion, like think about that when you're voting for it, as opposed to like, well, I'm not even thinking about that.
Marc:I'm thinking about these 10 movies that have been sent to me over and over again, the screeners or whatnot.
Marc:And that's what I'm picking.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Really disappointing year.
Guest:But the movie, you know, the movies I've seen and I've seen a lot of them, I actually saw A Different Man, which I don't think is nominated for Best Picture.
Marc:No, he's nominated for The Apprentice, not for A Different Man.
Guest:Which is wild to me because, you know, that and also the other guy in A Different Man is also amazing.
Guest:So it's just weird that, you know, just not nominated.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:I bet just people just didn't watch the movie.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It's definitely, definitely what it is.
Guest:But going back to the James Mangold episode, dude, what was up with the walnut talk?
Guest:Like there was so much walnut oil talk by Mark.
Guest:It sounded very much like Dr. Marin type of territory with the vitamins.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:There's like seven more minutes of it that will be, that will show up in the producer cuts.
Yeah.
Marc:i figured you were like okay this is enough we can get back to where we're going but uh yeah so that's the edited version but you know it's funny because like i you know it's one of those things where now you know mark has an expectation for it because he said like send me stuff about walnut oil and i'm looking through the emails and it's like walnut walnut oil walnut like so it's it always is it works
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Oh man.
Guest:But yeah, that's something.
Guest:I don't think I'm going to be swallowing a tablespoon of walnut oil anytime soon, but I'm glad Mark seems to be doing well with it.
Guest:So that's great.
Marc:But I'm also kind of like whoever that friend of his was that says they like eat the same thing every day.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:That's basically me.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Right.
Marc:I'm serious.
Marc:Like I got to a certain age where I'm like, I'm tired of food.
Marc:I'm tired of having to think about breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Marc:I'm just going to basically eat the same things as long as they're, you know, in some minor rotation.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Like I don't I don't I don't eat exactly the same thing every day, but it's roughly the same general menu.
Guest:okay all right i i'm i'm a bit different you know like however like tuesdays are usually taco night for me uh we try to do wednesdays uh our pizza night when survivor is on because we like making pizza and watching survivor and then all the other days are kind of up in the air so uh but those two are kind of locked so uh so yeah i feel you it's always but it's not always the same pizza it's also not always the same damn tacos
Marc:I also liked, I liked in that discussion with James Mangold, I like that talking about things that I could relate to.
Marc:I love that James Mangold also hates how reliant movies are on plot.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Wasn't that great?
Marc:Yes.
Marc:Well, I was like, I'm glad to hear it from someone who knows what they're talking about.
Marc:It's not just me shooting my mouth off.
Marc:Right.
Guest:Like an actual expert, a person doing the craft is like, oh yeah, plot used to be like, didn't have to be a thing to a thing to a thing, like a very video game.
Guest:It's like, it used to just be a thing that's there.
Guest:Right.
Guest:I also loved him talking about like Boogie Nights, like a movie where it was just like, that was like the last time that he was like, holy shit, they're doing it.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I loved that.
Marc:Well, and I was very happy that I had that in there on the same week where I put up the bonus that had the Paul Thomas Anderson clip.
Guest:I loved that.
Guest:So how did you decide on which clips to put into that episode?
Marc:Well, I made a list of...
Marc:I don't even think it's a full list.
Marc:I got to like 30 names and I stopped just for now.
Marc:Cause I knew I wouldn't need more than this, but I could do, I could do multiple episodes of these collections of directors.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And do it.
Marc:Oh yeah.
Marc:Cause I just, there's so many.
Marc:I know Mark says it's hard to talk to directors and I guess like per capita it is.
Marc:I mean, we've done over 1600 shows, but still we've got like 30, 40 amazing directors that have been on the show.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And I just picked, I picked like five of my favorites for this one.
Marc:And then in terms of getting the clips for it, I thought, well, let's have them be kind of starting at least being specifically about the films that they're making.
Guest:Hmm.
Marc:Right.
Marc:So the films that they made.
Marc:So, you know, it was like Paul Thomas Anderson talking about Boogie Nights and Magnolia.
Marc:William Friedkin talking about the French connection.
Marc:Greta Gerwig talking about Lady Bird.
Marc:And then like when I got into Tarantino and Del Toro, I was like, OK, now is where like we can ease out of like the very specific story.
Marc:talk about movies and just have these guys talking about like the general philosophy of movies right and with tarantino was like his how he got influenced by seeing stuff with his stepdad at that early age and then kind of del toro's take on like film noir and why it and and and monsters and all that stuff and how it you know kind of speaks to him more than movies that are
Marc:Very literal or reality based.
Marc:So that was just my thought process on that.
Marc:And it was basically it could have pulled five other directors and five other clips at random and it would have been fine.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And kind of wild that Michael Penn was obsessed with Freemasons because of Mark somehow.
Marc:No, I don't think so.
Marc:I don't think the timing lined up on that.
Marc:I think that it's probably that he was obsessed with it, and he and Mark talked about it, and he gave him... Mark was like, oh, I'll give you some books on that.
Marc:But if he was...
Marc:Obsessed with the Freemasons and that, and it was kind of what led to Paul Thomas Anderson putting Freemason stuff in Magnolia.
Marc:That's like 1998, 1999.
Marc:I know that Mark's not hanging out with Amy Mann and Michael Penn until like the mid-2000s.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:All right.
Guest:So yeah, he was still into the Freemasons.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:From listening to that bonus episode, I have to go back and like watch that Pinocchio movie that he made.
Guest:It kind of sounds really good.
Guest:Same.
Guest:Never saw it.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It kind of sounds like something I missed that I shouldn't have missed.
Marc:Well, there you go.
Marc:It's our dumb fucking distribution system now.
Marc:That thing's on Netflix.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And that's where things just go to die.
Guest:Seriously.
Guest:I fucking hate it.
Guest:I hate it now.
Guest:What are movies these days?
Guest:I saw a movie, what was it?
Guest:One of those days.
Guest:It's a great comedy.
Guest:It was out in the theater for like a month.
Marc:This is the Kiki Palmer movie?
Guest:Delightful movie.
Guest:But it's now on, you know, it's out of the theater.
Guest:Can't even, people can't even go see it.
Guest:And it's just, it's going to be, you can rent it for 20 bucks, you know, in a minute.
Guest:So I just don't get the movie industry.
Guest:Like, it just seems like we all kind of gave up like after COVID and it's like, all right, we'll just do the bare minimum and we'll get by with that.
Guest:And that's just the way it is.
Guest:They can see that they can kind of just short all this stuff.
Guest:Like-
Guest:It's basically, you know, going back like Survivor, right?
Guest:Survivor used to be like 40 days on an island with all these people.
Guest:And it used to, you know, take X amount, you know, like those full 40 days, right?
Guest:Then COVID happened and they were like, oh, you know what?
Guest:For 10 days, we have to have these people quarantined.
Guest:And so the game will only be 30 days, right?
Guest:They cut it by 10 days.
Guest:And then after COVID, CBS was like, whoa, wait a second.
Guest:You guys can do the same show, but for 10 less days.
Guest:Yeah, just do that forever now.
Guest:Yeah, exactly.
Guest:And it's never going back.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And that's basically the film industry.
Guest:They saw like, oh, we don't have to do all this shit.
Guest:We can just cut it back and still make the same amount of money.
Marc:That's a thing in that Tarantino interview that I didn't put into the collections episode.
Marc:But if you go back and listen to the Tarantino episode, he says to Mark, like, oh, you know, before COVID, when, you know, the Academy Awards was, you know, me and Scorsese and, you know, who made the Irishman and and Todd Phillips is Joker.
Marc:And yeah.
Marc:1917.
Marc:That was another one of the movies that year.
Marc:And he said, we've, I've seen those guys since then.
Marc:And I'm like, Oh, we were the last ones that we're going to, that are going to be allowed to do that.
Marc:Like they're never going to allow that.
Marc:And those, those productions, you're not going to see them anymore.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I mean, Christopher Nolan is still doing his thing.
Guest:That's right.
Marc:And yeah, that's the other thing.
Marc:I don't think it's absolute.
Guest:And he is one of those people that can do it.
Guest:And those guys that he mentioned are still guys that can still, and Greta is also in there.
Guest:Just like, oh, blank check.
Guest:Like, you know, make whatever you want.
Marc:Well, I also think it's going to come from elsewhere.
Marc:It's like if you think about like Godzilla minus one, right?
Marc:Right.
Marc:Like that's a massive production.
Marc:It looks like, you know, one of the best looking things you'll ever see.
Marc:And it cost a fraction of what we, you know, the movies cost here in the U.S.
Marc:And it's a full on production, you know?
Marc:So like, I think you're going to have to wind up looking elsewhere for these things to actually happen because the U.S.,
Marc:Entertainment system is now so enthralled to the streaming model, which is not panning out the way they thought it was going to be.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And we're just stuck in this time where, OK, for the next 10 years, there's a movie on Netflix that should have been, you know, number one at the box office.
Guest:And I just have to watch it on my phone.
Marc:Yeah, or you're not going to watch it for five years and then you're going to be like, oh, right, this thing.
Guest:Right, right.
Guest:Dude, you know, I don't think I ever asked you when Quentin Tarantino was on the show and you are not in the garage.
Guest:Oh, I was.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I was in there.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:Cause I, I thought, cause you know, for Obama, you were not in the garage, but you were like, that was the old house.
Marc:So there was no, like you can see it behind me.
Marc:Cause in my backdrop is the picture of that garage and it's one room with four walls and a door.
Marc:So you can't hide in there.
Marc:Right.
Marc:In Mark's new place.
Marc:the the guest and mark sit at the table it's that same table you see sitting there but then that table is surrounded by sound panels oh okay and out and you got to kind of like walk into the panels and like like the panels have a little like uh you know overlapping space so you can kind of you can turn the corner you're in a panel then you turn the corner again and you're at the desk and
Marc:Right.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:So then there's a tiny kitchen to the left of the door when you walk in.
Marc:And so I feel like I don't want people sitting there regularly.
Marc:We don't tell them they're allowed to do it.
Marc:But if somebody sits there, they can hear the whole conversation and never be seen or be obtrusive like during the interview.
Marc:Right.
Marc:So like I sat at the table there in that kitchen and heard everything they said, you know.
Marc:Okay, so you had your liquid death.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Nice.
Guest:Excellent.
Guest:All right, because I was thinking, like, were you, like, just gawking at his car the entire time?
Marc:No, no, no.
Marc:I went out and asked him if I could take pictures of it, and he said, of course.
Marc:That's good.
Marc:Yeah, that was all... You know what was also very cool about that was that, you know, he just liked sitting around and chatting.
Marc:I mean, he's a fucking chatterbox, you can tell.
Marc:I love that.
Marc:And so, like...
Marc:he had no problem.
Marc:Like when the thing was over, like just, he just sat in the chair and I got, since I was in there and I listened to the whole conversation, I was able to then continue the conversation with them, you know, like, you know, and he was totally like completely integrated into it.
Marc:It wasn't like, you know, he was like, Oh, I'm done here.
Marc:Wait, there's more people around.
Marc:It's just like, you know, you know what it's like you go over to somebody's house.
Marc:Like, you're not like, who's this guy?
Marc:Like you're in the,
Marc:You're in the house.
Guest:Right, right.
Guest:Ah, man, that's fun.
Guest:That's just really, really fun.
Guest:And now, was any of that recorded?
Guest:Like, is that like a bonus?
Guest:Oh, no, no, no.
Marc:I didn't have anything off mic recorded.
Marc:That's like a trust thing with the guests, too.
Marc:And I feel like record them when they don't expect it.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:All right.
Guest:That's fair enough.
Guest:But yeah, really fun stuff.
Guest:By the way, I bought tickets to a Bob Dylan concert because of that movie.
Guest:Like I was not a Bob, you know, I wouldn't say I was not a Bob Dylan fan.
Guest:I just, he was never really on my radar.
Guest:Sure.
Guest:But ever since this movie, I'm like, yeah, I'll go see Bob Dylan.
Guest:He's playing with Willie Nelson and Wilco in Long Island, unfortunately.
Guest:Like, sure, I'll go.
Guest:That sounds amazing.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So I'm going.
Guest:It's going to be at Jones Beach and going to have a nice little day.
Guest:Nice little Friday.
Guest:Anyway, the big episode, I'd say, is Ariana Grande.
Marc:Well, you know, it's funny they say the big episode because it's like, to me, it's the remarkable thing about it.
Marc:And it's like, I'll put my cards on the table.
Marc:It's like, obviously I'm not the target audience for Ariana Grande.
Marc:I don't, I'm not like, I've never, I couldn't really probably tell you what one of her songs is, but I know she's one of the biggest selling artists of all time.
Guest:Right.
Marc:Right.
Marc:And so, and so, you know, for me, what's much more my personal bag is like, you know, listening to James Mangold and Mark talk about movies for 90 minutes and the, you know, all those directors that I put together.
Marc:I mean, Mark's right.
Marc:It's just like these, when directors talk, like sometimes it's just like, there isn't a more fascinating thing from a, from a product perspective, a craft perspective.
Marc:Right.
Marc:But ultimately like,
Marc:that's great.
Marc:I'm super psyched that we have those things on this show, but what is this show really?
Marc:And it's like that Ariana Grande thing.
Marc:I, it goes all the way back to last week when I put a little teaser clip into the episode, you know, I knew I was going to put a little clip in and I didn't know what, but when I had Mark record his material to send to me for the intro and the outro, uh,
Marc:I just wrote something so that, you know, Mark could do just a generic toss so that like, it wouldn't matter what clip I pulled, it would work.
Marc:And, you know, so this general thing was like, you know, yeah, we talked a lot about the movie, but also a lot of other stuff.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Right.
Marc:And I just so happened to have this clip.
Marc:It was like one of the first things I heard too, because in like the first 10 minutes of the, of the episode that she's just like, do you think about dying?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Like a lot.
Marc:And I was like, or I think she said, are you afraid of it?
Marc:Yes.
Marc:Are you afraid of death?
Marc:Death?
Marc:Yeah, death.
Marc:And this clip is just like 90 seconds of them talking about mortality.
Marc:And I'm like, this is like,
Marc:a global pop star, Academy Award-nominated actress.
Marc:You know, she's worth a billion dollars.
Marc:But, like, this is the real shit.
Marc:Like, this is what people, like, get at in that space.
Marc:This is what winds up happening.
Marc:And in the episode, she keeps saying that.
Marc:She's like, I didn't know we were going to get here this fast.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:And there's just something so amazing.
Marc:Then I'm listening to the actual episode when I'm editing it, and it's just like...
Marc:There's something so amazing about having one of the world's biggest pop stars who even if you don't know anything about her, she's in a room talking with Mark about him listening to the music of the other biggest pop star in the world and how it makes him cry and it connects to his grief.
Marc:And then they're talking about their grief together.
Marc:And then it's just like, this is our fucking show, man.
Marc:Exactly.
Marc:Exactly.
Marc:I just, I had to stop and go like, I texted him while I was editing and I was like, this is a crazy thing that we, that this exists, this show.
Marc:Like it just should, it should not exist.
Marc:There's no like, and listen.
Marc:Thank God it does.
Marc:Well, but also I could say that for sure from my point of view.
Marc:But, like, I imagine a person like Ariana Grande is pretty heavily managed, right?
Marc:Right.
Marc:And I can say this with all honesty.
Marc:They did not bother me a bit.
Marc:Not a bit.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Like, I guess it's one of those things they, you know, speak to her.
Marc:She's fine with doing the show or whatever.
Marc:They, you know, are clear about the fact that, like, there are things that she might not talk about, but they're not like you're not allowed to say anything or whatnot.
Marc:It was just like.
Marc:she can handle herself in there with this show.
Marc:And so just go do your show, do the show the way you want to do it.
Marc:And so like Mark, because of how he's learned how to do the show, like he's not a disrespectful dick and he's not like, um, trying to mind stuff for click bait or whatever.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Like if the grief comes up, they'll talk about it.
Marc:And you know, she's talking about, you know, that rapper she was dating who died over overdose.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Like you, right.
Marc:But if you like started drilling down on that as an interviewer, you kill it.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Exactly.
Marc:It closes up.
Marc:Right.
Marc:So I just, it was a great example to me of like, oh, wow, we're still doing this thing.
Marc:It's still working the way we intended for it to work.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Right.
Guest:It's like, wow, this engine's still going.
Guest:Exactly.
Guest:It's a hell of a Toyota you got.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Guest:That's all he buys, apparently.
Guest:Yes, apparently.
Guest:I think the death thing was what I circled.
Guest:Like that was something that would only happen on your show.
Guest:And I mean, it was profound and it was a look inside this person that I don't think anyone, you know, not too many people have ever heard her talk about.
Guest:honestly yeah uh and yeah just just really great i love that she loved that ambition is not a point of view uh um line that mark uh put out uh i hope i hope you're going to you know put two tickets aside for her for the hbo taping um because she seemed interested in actually hey i'll see what i can do
Guest:Oh, man.
Guest:I also loved Mark talking horoscopes.
Guest:It was like something so foreign to him.
Guest:It's just like, yeah, I don't know.
Marc:Yeah, he's like, what the fuck does that even mean?
Right.
Guest:It's such a married, I kind of love the opposites of, you know, just like the perfect strangers of Mark and just someone completely opposite of him.
Guest:It just makes for a good time.
Marc:Although I will say, I don't think I'm speaking out of turn by sharing this, that, uh, you know, the feedback we got when the interview was over from, from her reps, they said she had a great time.
Marc:She's, she said, Mark is her people.
Marc:hey that's great yeah so it's like i do you know think yes they may have a lot of opposites about them but like i don't know birds of a feather they they you know they know yeah for sure and uh i too love popcorn so if if she's at the hbo taping i'll bring a bag of popcorn so maybe some sweet potatoes and berries too what a fucking partier i
Guest:I was thinking, like, was she eating popcorn and berries at the same time?
Guest:You know how people, like, put, like, recent pieces?
Guest:M&Ms, yeah.
Guest:Yeah, just funny fucking popcorn and blueberries in one bag.
Marc:Yeah, she's a wild child.
Marc:She goes for a walk and eats popcorn and berries.
Guest:They say they're just like us, those celebrities.
Marc:Well, I'm glad you got to enjoy that stuff.
Marc:Did you get any, did you have any time on the plane to watch things?
Marc:I did.
Guest:And I fell asleep to two of them.
Guest:So I, I tried to watch wolves.
Guest:That is the Brad Pitt and George Clooney apple.
Guest:Oh yeah.
Marc:Another disappearing piece of media.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:With good reason.
Guest:That was very boring and a very good thing to watch before my 6 a.m.
Guest:flight.
Guest:I told my wife when she was booking this, I was like, hey, you know what would be great?
Guest:To not have to wake up at four o'clock in the morning to get this flight.
Guest:But she's like, no, no, no, no.
Guest:It's going to be great.
Guest:You'll love it.
Guest:I did not love it, but-
Guest:I'm glad I was able to get some Zs from wolves, of all things.
Guest:So yeah, that was the first movie I tried to watch.
Guest:And then I saw a different man.
Guest:And the other movie that I fell asleep to, I watched I Love You, Man, which is one of your rules.
Guest:If there's a movie where you just want to watch something familiar on a plane.
Guest:So yeah, I watched I Love You, Man.
Guest:And I fell asleep to that as well.
Guest:So there you go.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So that was my movie going experience.
Guest:And also on the plane, I was just listening to your show.
Marc:Well, take me through what was great about Mexico City.
Guest:Oh, man.
Guest:Mexico City, dude.
Guest:So first of all, the food there is dope.
Guest:And like, you know what you were asking?
Guest:Like, hey, what do I need to eat?
Guest:you know, at a specific location.
Guest:Tacos al pastor at Mexico city.
Guest:You just have to, it's just the thing to eat.
Guest:Get a little slice of pineapple on your taco.
Guest:And it is, it is just delicious, man.
Guest:Like I, I didn't have one bad taco, like Michelin.
Guest:Do you know those, the Michelin star thing?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like they have Michelin star like taco stands.
Guest:Wow.
Guest:So I, I went to a Michelin star taco stand and got a, got two tacos and gotta say it was great.
Guest:I don't know what makes it a Michelin star, but, uh, but yeah, it was, it was delightful.
Marc:Now, would you say there are there are trends there that like as I notice here in New York, a lot of the a lot of the taco trucks that have popped up are like the Bira tacos, you know, where you like dip them in this in the in the in the broth.
Marc:What's going on there in Mexico?
Marc:Is there anything noticeable?
Guest:No noticeable – like there's no trends.
Guest:It's just like the old standards.
Guest:Like here's the meats.
Guest:You got your meats and that's it.
Guest:You want corn tortillas normally or flour tortillas at a very fancy place or a very different place.
Guest:But yeah, no.
Guest:It's basically the meat and you get the meat and then you put on your toppings.
Guest:There's nothing – there's no trends.
Guest:There's nothing –
Guest:Like, oh, look, we're going to melt some cheese, a block of cheese on top of your taco.
Guest:Nothing like that.
Guest:It is bare bones, and it's actually just really good quality.
Marc:That sounds perfect.
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Guest:So, like, the food there was tremendous.
Guest:And also, we also did other things, like other food places.
Guest:Like, there's, like, this place called Maximo.
Guest:Like, it was Aaron's favorite, my wife's favorite place.
Guest:It was just...
Guest:just well done food.
Guest:Like we were, we were talking about it throughout the meal and we were like, you know, like some of these dishes could use maybe some salt, but actually on second thought, no, it's perfect.
Guest:It's a perfect dish.
Guest:So, so yeah, just had really great food there.
Guest:And, and then we just did a whole bunch of like experiences.
Guest:And we went to Arena Mexico.
Guest:We saw some, some luchadors in action.
Guest:And that was,
Guest:So fucking cool to see Mexican wrestling live and in person.
Guest:I wouldn't say I'm a fan of Mexican wrestling.
Guest:I know that it's a thing, but I never knew what Arena Mexico was previously.
Guest:But it was such a fun experience to do.
Guest:Tickets were like 45 bucks and I was in the front row.
Guest:And that was very cool.
Guest:The arena itself is kind of...
Guest:Kind of small.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:But they pack them in.
Guest:Oh, yeah.
Guest:And the crowd is so hot, dude.
Guest:Like, it was like they were cheering.
Guest:Like, it was some of the loudest cheers I've ever heard.
Guest:Oh, yeah.
Marc:Well, they have like regulars who are there every Friday.
Marc:Like, you know, you get your locals and your hardcores who show up.
Marc:But they also rely heavily on people like you.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Like they rely on like, because it's treated like a circus, right?
Marc:Like, Hey, this is the thing to do on a Friday night, go to Arena Mexico, see the luchadors.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And it was, it was a great, great time.
Guest:And, you know, I was reading up on it and like, Oh, people are like, I don't know.
Guest:It might not be safe.
Guest:Or, you know, it's completely safe.
Guest:Like, I mean, look, you know, don't, don't be, you know, a jackass, but like, it was a very safe city.
Guest:I didn't feel, you know, worried at all.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:But yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Arena Mexico, really fun time.
Guest:The luchadors were great.
Guest:It's a weird wrestling experience, though, because you're not allowed to stand.
Guest:If you stand, people, like, they have, like, security watching you at every sort of, like, you know, opportunity.
Guest:And if you stand, they're telling you to please, you know, sit down.
Marc:You know, I bet that is, I bet there's, there just got to the point where it's like, there were too many fights.
Guest:Oh, you think that's what it is?
Guest:Oh, I'm sure.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:It's like, you know, people who are just like, you're blocking me.
Marc:And then fists start getting thrown.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So, so that, that was one excursion that we did.
Guest:And then like, dude, my wife and I, my wife's very thorough, like with her research.
Guest:And she found out that,
Guest:Every Sunday that they shut down like a main street.
Guest:Like think of it like Broadway in the city.
Guest:And they just shut it down for bikes and like rollerblades and people jogging.
Guest:So we rented a city bike.
Guest:They call it something else.
Guest:But we rented a city bike and we just biked on this avenue.
Guest:It goes into the park, this beautiful park that's two times the size of Central Park.
Guest:And we just had a delightful ride.
Guest:And it was like, also the weather, dude.
Guest:So listen, it's a city, right?
Guest:The weather in Mexico City is basically always 75 degrees.
Guest:Oh, wow.
Guest:And it is beautiful.
Guest:It's not humid or anything.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:The big thing is that it's like Denver where it's like really high up.
Guest:So like you'll get sunburned really easily.
Guest:But yeah, so we biked around.
Guest:I wanted to see a biblioteca that I saw online.
Guest:So we got to tour that.
Guest:And yeah, just like had a really fun ass time that day.
Guest:And then the next day, next excursion, dude, we woke up again at four o'clock in the goddamn morning.
Guest:But my wife and I did a hot air balloon ride.
Guest:Oh, which was really cool.
Guest:Have you ever done a hot air balloon ride?
Marc:I've never been on one.
Marc:We put my mom on one once and it was one of the singularly weird things I can ever remember seeing was seeing a person standing there and then just going up in the sky with relatively no sound.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Like, you know, it was like, wait, what?
Marc:Why is she going up?
Guest:Yeah, it is.
Guest:It is really cool.
Guest:I think Owen, your son would dig it.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like, I just think there's something magical about it.
Guest:It's like not threatening.
Guest:And it's just like, oh, now we are not on the ground.
Guest:And now we're just hovering above all these buildings and these pyramids now.
Guest:And yeah, it was it was a really special time.
Guest:So so yeah.
Guest:So we did that and we also walked around these goddamn pyramids.
Guest:I say goddamn because it was just so long.
Guest:There was just like a lot of pyramid, a lot of ground to cover.
Guest:And for me, listen, a city vacation for me, if I'm not walking at least five miles a day, then I was probably like banged up or in a coma or something.
Guest:Like we averaged eight miles every day.
Guest:You know how hard it is to walk eight miles a day?
Guest:It is exhausting.
Marc:I'll ask Eminem.
Guest:That's right.
Guest:But yeah, so we went to the pyramids.
Guest:We did an audio tour that we downloaded on our phones because my wife and I, we like doing a couple of things.
Guest:We like to eat, we like to see cool stuff, and we like to not talk to another human being.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:I can't tell you how much...
Guest:I would pay to not have to listen to someone and then just, you know, the nod, the silent nod.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Oh, I'm understanding what you're saying.
Guest:So I'm nodding.
Guest:It was so nice and refreshing to not do that and like not have that mask on.
Guest:Like, oh, so, so yeah.
Guest:So we were able to do that, listen on our earbuds and not talk to a single person.
Guest:So yeah, that was our trip.
Guest:And again, just had delicious food every step of the way.
Guest:And yeah, I can recommend Mexico City.
Guest:Before this year or before we booked this, I had no idea about Mexico City.
Guest:Now I'm like, maybe we'll come back.
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:I don't want to go again to Mexico because we've been like...
Guest:twice or even three times in three years.
Guest:Like, like I'm kind of done with it.
Guest:I might go to Costa Rica next.
Guest:Uh, but, uh, but yeah, Mexico city, big thumbs up.
Marc:Now, before you went, had you practiced your Canadian accent so that, uh, no one mistook you for an American?
Guest:Dude, you know, can I tell you, I have a 225 day goddamn Duolingo streak going, right?
Guest:And it helped me so little.
Guest:And I was like, donde es biblioteca?
Guest:That's about as good as I could get.
Guest:And everything else, like, nah, I don't know what they're saying.
Guest:Luckily, my wife is basically bilingual, and she was able to talk very fluently to people.
Guest:But for me, I'm like, what the...
Guest:I do Duolingo.
Marc:This didn't help me do anything.
Marc:See, this is the thing.
Marc:Nobody needs to do that anymore because now there's just a button on the phone where you just say what you want it to say and they say it back to you and then they say it into your phone and it says it back to you in English.
Guest:Or you just type it and it'll have the translation underneath it.
Guest:So here, just read the blue.
Guest:Read this, yeah.
Guest:Yeah, so yeah.
Guest:So that goddamn Duolingo didn't help.
Guest:And I did not practice being Canadian.
Guest:But I will say, when we were there and I saw just some goofy shit that's happening in the world, like Elon Musk was in the Oval Office with his fucking hat on, with his kid picking his fucking nose.
Marc:Yeah, he was like Master Blaster.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:He was on his head like that.
Guest:Dude, I saw that and I was like, oh, thank God I'm not in that fucking country.
Guest:But also like the fact that I had to come back to that country was like, God fucking damn it.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I do not talk politics or Trump.
Marc:But nobody gave you a side eye when they're like, oh, American.
Yeah.
Guest:No, no.
Guest:And like, you know how I was saying that I was trying to do the Duolingo and like, I, you know, by the end of the trip, it was starting to, I was starting to pick up some, but then it started blending in with my Italian.
Guest:So I was like, buongiorno.
Guest:And people were like, oh, Italiano.
Guest:And I was like, si.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So, you know, it was a whole mess of stuff.
Guest:And yeah, the last thing I wanted to do was be recognized as an American.
Guest:However, I did have a fucking New York Mets hat, which was a dead giveaway.
Guest:And I say that because Aaron was like, hey, you know what?
Guest:I don't see anyone else with a Mets hat.
Guest:I see a lot of Yankee hats.
Guest:I see a lot of Dodgers hats in this San Francisco team, the San Francisco 49ers.
Guest:But I don't see any Mets hats.
Guest:And I was like, yeah, there's a reason for that.
Guest:When you see someone with a Mets hat,
Guest:you know that they're an actual fan of the team.
Guest:That's why on the rare occasions that Erin is wearing a Mets cap or a shirt because we're going to a Met game after work, like she tells me each time that, hey, I was getting off the elevator and some guy was just like, hey, let's go Mets.
Guest:And she's like taking a back.
Guest:And she's like, oh, right.
Guest:I'm wearing something with Mets on it.
Guest:And like, she's like, this is great.
Guest:Whereas with a Yankee hat, you're not saying jack shit to that person.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:No, that's it.
Marc:That's the old joke is if you see someone with a Mets hat, you say, let's go Mets.
Marc:If you see someone with a Yankees hat, you say, where are you from?
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Like it is, could not be more specific.
Guest:Like that is one, it's not even a joke.
Guest:It is just what it is.
Marc:That's an adage.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So, so yeah, it was a, it was a fun time, you know, in Mexico city with my Mets hat and my wife.
Marc:Well, I'm so glad you got to take a trip.
Marc:I will be taking trips abroad later this year, so I'll have to take some tips from you.
Guest:Bongiorno means hello.
Marc:Well, that's good.
Marc:I'm going to Italy, so I will need to know that.
Marc:Before we wrap up here, I did want to address a couple of things that came in from some listeners.
Marc:Jen wrote this into us.
Marc:She said, I really loved the RJ City episode from a few months back.
Marc:Just wondering if we might get a few more AEW folks on the Friday show who could similarly appeal to non-wrestling fans.
Marc:In particular, Harley Cameron is someone that I think non-wrestling listeners would appreciate since she can do it all.
Marc:Wrestle, sing, ventriloquism, and comedy.
Marc:jen i think i blew this one it was it's i don't know that i'm going to get the shot again but when we had rj on that was also offered it was what you know i i went to my contact there at aew and i said actually the first thing that i wanted was i said is there anyone that is like a movie buff
Marc:Mm-hmm.
Marc:but they were like, you know, of course there's RJ city though.
Marc:Who's like way into old movies.
Marc:And that was what we wound up doing.
Marc:So, Oh yeah, that's great.
Marc:He could talk about how like, you know, he integrated his love of like old Hollywood into, into wrestling, but they also recommended Harley Cameron.
Marc:And like,
Marc:I was not opposed to it.
Marc:I love Harley Cameron.
Marc:And it is for these exact reasons that I already knew about.
Marc:I knew she was a ventriloquist.
Marc:I knew that she sings and she's like got like a pop career as well.
Marc:She's Australian.
Marc:But they were raving about her as a personality.
Marc:They were like, no, no, she's great.
Marc:And I admit this was when we had RJ on.
Marc:It was like, you know, back in November or whatever.
Marc:She had not been on TV a ton.
Marc:And and so like I knew she would be like fun and good.
Marc:I had no idea like how good.
Marc:And now like the last like two months, she's been all over TV and she's so good and she's so talented.
Marc:And I'm like, oh, now her star is too big and I'm that we're never going to get her on this stupid show.
Marc:So I will absolutely try to get Harley Cameron back on the show.
Marc:But I'm afraid I blew my shot.
Guest:No, no, you didn't blow it.
Guest:Come on.
Guest:You're fine.
Guest:First of all, I did not know about Harley.
Guest:And just these vignettes...
Guest:are amazing.
Marc:Well, I'll tell you why she's so good.
Marc:It's because when a wrestler gets a little viral recognition, like they do a sketch that gets shared all over the place and people are like, look at this person.
Marc:They're great.
Marc:That has a very...
Marc:minimal shelf life.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Right.
Marc:And usually what winds up happening is like they, if they have like a catchphrase or something, then that's just, they milk it till it can no longer be milked.
Marc:Right.
Marc:See yeet.
Marc:Right.
Marc:What, what she has done is,
Marc:is like every week when there's this new vignette, she's doing some new talent that we didn't know she already had.
Guest:How, like the last one with the, first of all, that doll that they have, they have to mass produce it because- Yeah, and those are cheap.
Guest:You can make those.
Guest:That would be the best goddamn thing.
Marc:She has a puppet that she does legitimate ventriloquism with.
Marc:Not like fake ventriloquism.
Marc:Like you can't see her mouth move.
Guest:yeah so so you knew that she did this yeah like that was a thing yeah yeah yeah amazing and she can see like she's actually singing that's not like someone else's oh no no she's saying she raps she's got a good flow like i i'm so impressed with this person i i can only dream that we get to talk to her and just talk about any and all of this yeah you don't have to bring up wrestling once
Guest:no not once yeah like i i also she's kind of an unknown for me like i don't know her backstory how did she become a ventriloquist how did she like learn to rap like i want to know all about this like is that out there like do people know her and that's the other problem i'm like i'm afraid that everybody will soon like she's just going to do 20 of these types of interviews so yeah like it's uh it's a regret but maybe yeah maybe we could maybe we could make it happen
Guest:It's a long flight to Australia.
Guest:She could get incepted.
Guest:We should incept her on the way back to do this show.
Marc:She gets back.
Marc:She's like, I got some urge to do something with these goofs on Friday.
Guest:Thank you, Jen.
Marc:The one last thing I wanted to mention is Dylan.
Marc:He said, I wanted to write for so long based on the whole dad movie conversation and reverence for Kurt Russell.
Marc:Have you ever seen executive decision?
Marc:Sure have.
Yeah.
Marc:What a cast.
Marc:What a ridiculous plot.
Marc:I love it so much.
Marc:The great thing about that is how, how they kill Steven Seagal within like 20 minutes.
Marc:That's amazing.
Marc:Uh, and he also says, I've never, I never had cable.
Marc:So I first caught this on a Sunday afternoon movie special on UPN or something like that.
Marc:Same way.
Marc:I saw event horizon, another favorite.
Marc:I cannot imagine just stumbling across event horizon on television.
Marc:Uh,
Marc:uh needless to say i love serious action movies that in reality are just absolutely ridiculous i'm someone who saw stripes and all kinds of classic comedies at a very young age all taped on vhs from rentals or when the old man would record hbo in the 80s before my time call it inappropriate if you like but that word didn't necessarily exist in my house growing up i hear that story a lot i mean like that's definitely the the latchkey kid story of like yeah we watched all this inappropriate shit yeah
Marc:Um, and then, uh, Dylan went on to thank us for doing the show and how much he enjoys it and what it means, but he did, he did.
Marc:I did want to mention this.
Marc:He says, my wife is due in May with our first, you guys give me hope that I can raise a family through this political climate better than how it was for me as a kid going through all the anti-liberal diatribes and Bush worship that I went through.
Marc:Uh, yes, Dylan, first of all, congratulations to you and yours and, uh, may all the blessings be upon you.
Marc:And, uh, yes, Dylan,
Marc:You can do it.
Marc:It's a tough time.
Marc:It's a time where everybody's got to find the things that mean something to them.
Marc:And yes, we can provide you a little bit of a break on Fridays for an hour.
Marc:And hey, you're going to need it.
Marc:You're going to need all that time you can in May when you're trying to...
Marc:you know, bleary eyed, stay awake and do your nighttime feedings.
Marc:Maybe you can turn us on and we'll, we'll help get you through it.
Marc:So congratulations.
Marc:And, and thanks for writing in and anybody who wants to write in, please feel free to do so.
Marc:We will put a link in the episode description.
Marc:You can leave us your comments or questions or whatever you want us to know.
Marc:And we will be back here next week.
Marc:There's more directors to come.
Marc:Next week on WTF is Brady Corbet, the director of The Brutalist.
Marc:And that'll be a good conversation.
Marc:Also, not a director, but an interesting guy, Mo Amir, the comedian, Palestinian-American guy who has a show Mo on Netflix.
Marc:And that's a great conversation he and Mark have.
Marc:And that's coming to you next week.
Marc:We'll have more stuff coming up on the Oscars too.
Marc:Mark and I are going to do a special Oscar show.
Marc:I think that's in two weeks on the 25th.
Marc:And then you and I, Chris, we can do our Oscar picks right before the telecast, which I believe is on March 2nd this year.
Marc:So all that coming up in the next few weeks.
Marc:And until then, I'm Brendan and that is Chris.
Peace.