BONUS The Friday Show - You Say Elias, I Say Elias
Guest:He took a hatchet to the head.
Guest:Can you imagine?
Guest:What?
Guest:Right?
Guest:That's crazy.
Guest:And also, he sells hatchets?
Guest:That was nuts.
Guest:He's really obsessed with hatchets.
Guest:Yeah, I was just like, oh no.
Marc:I had to think about that.
Marc:I'm like, what do I like too much?
Marc:Is that what's going to be what kills me?
Marc:Hey, Chris.
Marc:Hello, old friend.
Marc:You know, I've been thinking about you all week.
Marc:Oh, tell me more.
Marc:Well, not too long ago, you were in the market for a car.
Marc:You wanted an electric or some kind of plug-in hybrid.
Marc:You checked out a lot of different vehicles and you went with the, what, the Ioniq?
Guest:No, no, no.
Guest:I went with the, what is it?
Guest:A Toyota Prius hybrid.
Guest:Oh, it's the Prius plug-in though, right?
Marc:Yes.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:So you have a Toyota.
Marc:You went from just a regular Prius to the plug-in Prius.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:Is that it?
Marc:Okay.
Marc:So you're stuck with your brand.
Marc:You were loyal to your brand, but you did...
Marc:At one point, think very strongly about going in for a Tesla.
Marc:I remember.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Boy, man, what a bullet you dodged.
Guest:I can't even imagine.
Guest:Like, do you understand?
Guest:Like, I live like close to like, like Montclair, New Jersey, which is like a liberal hub.
Marc:Crunchy.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Like living lives there.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like there are Teslas all over the place, right?
Guest:And now these people are so mad that they have this car that's just a walking advertisement for this dipshit.
Marc:Or also like a walking advertisement for vandalism.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Oh, all that.
Guest:Like, please, please vandalize my car.
Guest:My wife would say, she's like, yeah, when I see them on the highway now, I don't let them in to my lane.
Guest:Oh, Aaron.
Guest:With the big shot.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Very, very subtle.
Guest:But yeah, she doesn't, she doesn't like them.
Guest:She doesn't like the sight of them.
Guest:Those fucking cyber trucks.
Guest:Oh, I was going to ask next.
Guest:What does she do when she sees those?
Guest:She's still like, man, that's one ugly fucking car.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:See, I have a, I have a teenager, a young teenager at that who, who likes, you know, things that look like that.
Marc:This is a good car for a 13 year old boy.
Marc:Exactly what it is.
Marc:And so when we see them, he's like, Ooh, a cyber truck.
Marc:And I'm always like, get it out now, buddy.
Marc:Get it out while you can.
Marc:Like, it's fine for you to enjoy it.
Marc:But like, you've got two years.
Marc:Like if you were, if you were 15, I'd be like, nah, pal, can't do it.
Marc:You can't, can't think this is cool.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I also, I don't understand the chess move because only like, again, liberals with like people who care about the environment are like, oh, I'm going to buy an electric car.
Guest:Now, now they don't want these cars.
Guest:Right.
Marc:And you're never going to get all these monsters on board with the Teslas.
Marc:No way.
Guest:It's so insane.
Guest:I can't wrap my head around it.
Guest:It's a lose-lose situation.
Guest:And the stock is, of course, plummeting.
Marc:But this is the problem.
Marc:with the end game of this, of basically destruction capitalism, being that all the chips fell on the side of the table with the richest man in the world.
Marc:Like, yeah, that's what was going to happen.
Marc:Like, where do you...
Marc:Oh, the vaunted business lobby.
Marc:Do you think they're stopping this stock slide?
Marc:No, they're not.
Marc:Nobody's got any control anymore because all the things they've done for the last 40 years to put the ball in their court, to weight everything to their side of the ledger, it's now been ceded to a guy who's way more rich than they are.
Marc:So he just gets to be like, well, no, now what I say goes...
Marc:and all i care about is the brain poison that i've figured out from the internet like because i've ketamined myself into mush and so now like he doesn't care if he loses a hundred billion dollars like he doesn't it's like he'll never feel it so like he's just that's who runs everything now and guess what guys that was the logical end point to this like when you decided it's going to be wealth accumulation above all else it's
Marc:Eventually it was going to get to here where a guy just gets to make all these decisions.
Marc:Doesn't care if he ever makes any more money or not.
Marc:Doesn't matter.
Marc:Money doesn't matter to him.
Marc:It's over.
Marc:Good luck.
Marc:Hang on for the ride.
Guest:Right, right.
Guest:He, he, he bought a friend and that friend now controls everything.
Marc:It's all that friend is like, Oh, guess you say what goes now.
Marc:I'll go.
Marc:You want me to go do a car show in front of my house in front of my most famous house in the world.
Marc:And I'll, I'll sell cars, use cars for you on the lot.
Yeah.
Guest:just insane man just i did love by the way do you think donald trump has ever driven a car never not once i don't think he's ever driven a car i know many new yorkers who have never driven a car my mother included like it's just not part of their vocabulary it's like i don't need this in my life so i'm just never gonna get a driver's license but
Marc:But you're also talking about like the proletariat.
Marc:Like you're talking about people who are like, I don't, I use mass transit.
Marc:That's fine.
Marc:Right.
Marc:This guy just has been driven everywhere for his whole life.
Marc:So like also all the things in a Tesla that are meant to like be alluring to a driver.
Marc:He didn't give a shit about that stuff.
Marc:Like he sat in the thing.
Marc:He was like, Whoa, look at this.
Marc:It's all computers.
Yeah.
Guest:It's like he's like Arnold getting in the Johnny cab in Total Recall.
Guest:He really is.
Guest:He's like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Guest:It's really unbelievable that this is the timeline that we're living in.
Guest:What a disaster.
Marc:It's a timeline of all these things that we processed and we thought it was just fiction when we were kids.
Marc:Like Total Recall, like Biff in Back to the Future 2.
Marc:Like all this stuff that we're like, ha ha, that'll never happen.
Marc:And it's literally happening.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:It's happening exactly the way.
Marc:Like, wait, this guy is doing, he's doing a sales pitch on the fucking White House lawn.
Guest:Dude, there's a picture of the notes.
Marc:The notes, they say like $200 fee.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:he's supposed to give options he's he's like the guy who's going to tell you to get a true coat on this one i don't know this true coat and the undercarriage you you put my name they'll give you a free undercarriage don't you worry i mean it's like mark has that bit in his uh end times fun special about like if you saw this guy coming to you on a used car lot you'd be like no no not that guy yeah
Guest:Also, I mean, I saw that clip on Mark's social and man, what a timely clip to have posted.
Guest:That is that is so perfect for this moment.
Marc:Well, as he told, I guess I think it was W. Kamau Bell.
Marc:He was like, yeah, I got a guy who does that.
Marc:I don't, I don't do those myself.
Marc:And yes, Mark, I think, I think it was, I think it's the same people who like worked with like Anthony Jeselnik or somebody, one of his comedian peers, like when Mark was like in the green room of the comedy store, you know, being like, wow, what the fuck?
Marc:I got to get on TikTok now.
Marc:They were like, dude, just have a guy do it.
Marc:I have a guy who does it here.
Marc:Here's his number.
Marc:I'm pretty sure it was Jesselnik.
Marc:I can't remember 100 percent.
Marc:I know Jesselnik was totally the haircut referral for Mark.
Marc:That I do know.
Marc:But I don't know.
Marc:I think he's also the TikTok referral and therefore other socials.
Marc:But but yes, that was fun that that came up with Kamau, which, by the way, Kamau is like, you know,
Marc:We try not to have people on too close to the last time they came on.
Marc:And he came on in 2022.
Marc:And just right around this time, it was February of 2022.
Marc:So just about three years ago.
Marc:That's like close.
Marc:Like we don't tend to do repeats that close.
Marc:So why'd you do this one?
Marc:Oh, he's just like an evergreen dude.
Marc:Like, I always know, like, oh, him and Mark are going to have great talks.
Marc:And it's like, because they could do exactly what they did here.
Marc:They're just like, so what about the world?
Marc:Like, let's talk about what we do now in light of the world.
Marc:Because they're very similar in that respect.
Marc:Also, all very different, obviously.
Marc:But like, I don't know.
Marc:He's one of those guys, come on whenever you want, really.
Guest:That's my feeling about it.
Guest:100 and like i've i love man when he was telling about his kid being like daddy can you put the phone down oh that's a fatality like has owen ever said that to you no uh i've been we've been careful that there's like you know it's like times where we don't allow it um but you know the the
Marc:I think that he has his own like screen time stuff that like he's it would be a severe like pot calling the kettle black if he ever called me on my phone stuff because it's like he we have to like set like up kill switch on the things because he will like can't get off like we're like right you have the thing for this amount of time and then it's going to it's going to warn you and it's going to go off because we can't do it the other way we can't be like all right I'll come by and
Marc:you know, 20 minutes and you can stop like, no, that won't work.
Marc:So he, he needs, he needs like the machine itself to shut down.
Marc:So if he ever got on my ass about like checking my fucking email or something, I'd be like, bro, I don't have a kill switch on this.
Guest:Man, I had to take care of my three nephews and nieces this weekend.
Guest:And I like the amount of screen time trying to get them off of it.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It's like trying to take like a crack pipe away from my crack head.
Marc:That's that great Louis CK bit where he's like, you ever, you ever, you want to see what a kid's, the addicted mind of a kid is like, walk up behind them while they're watching TV and just shut it off.
Guest:See what happens.
Guest:100%.
Guest:It was like as if I like just ruined their whole life by just taking away their iPad.
Guest:It was traumatic.
Guest:I don't know how the hell you parents do it.
Guest:It is not for me.
Marc:No, you got it.
Marc:I mean, like the boundaries around those things are super duper important and incredibly hard.
Marc:They're hard to set, especially like, you know, depending on, you know, your kid's predilection toward having impulse control issues or whatever.
Marc:Like that's tough.
Marc:Like you have to really step in there.
Marc:But the other problem is like so much is done on them now.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:you know school like all kinds of stuff right and like even stuff that i'm like i want you to be doing that like he makes a lot of music and it's like well i'm not gonna like get in the way of like his artistic and creative pursuits like he should be making music on that thing but like there's all it's just one button away to like get on like mr beast world or whatever the fuck right
Guest:right yeah and uh can i ask you are you disneyland famous like uh kamal bell is no oh no no that was making me so jealous i was so jealous and i just want to know what happens what happens if you're disneyland famous like what what what i guess he just got the like quick access to the rides and stuff maybe i don't know maybe he gets to go underground he gets to see the city you know
Marc:The Underground's not that crazy.
Marc:I mean, like, I've heard of, you know, they offer it as a tour.
Marc:Like, you can pay for it and go do it.
Marc:Oh, no kidding.
Marc:Have you ever done it?
Marc:No, no.
Marc:No, because it's like, I know what a fucking warehouse and, you know, like, the guts of, industrial guts of a location look like.
Marc:Fine, I don't need to see where the garbage cans come down.
Guest:I got it.
Guest:If you ever want to punish Owen, you'd be like, hey, Owen, I got you a ticket to a special, special thing.
Guest:It's just a hallway.
Guest:Yeah, it was really expensive.
Guest:You're going to hate it.
Yeah.
Guest:You like grape soda?
Guest:You gotta hate it.
Guest:Yeah, 100%.
Guest:Oh, man.
Guest:But yeah, they touched on a lot of great stuff, like a nine-hour Prince documentary that'll never see the light of day.
Guest:That sounds fun.
Guest:And it's by the guy who made the OJ doc.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah, just like, okay, I guess we'll never see that.
Guest:We'll also never hear Prince music because it's in a vault and they don't feel like ever releasing it.
Guest:So that's fun.
Guest:There's just all kinds of stuff that we're just not ever going to get, which is a thing.
Guest:I feel like, though, like, of course someone will see that someday.
Marc:Like, nothing ever stays like...
Marc:In the vault forever, you know?
Guest:I guess.
Guest:Isn't there like a Batman, Batgirl movie that we'll never see because, was it Warner Brothers?
Marc:But didn't they like literally like delete it from existence?
Guest:I guess.
Marc:Somebody's got to have a work print of it or something.
Guest:Like the editor of it probably like copied it and pasted it somewhere, but who knows?
Guest:There's some day we will see those things, but I can't, you know, can't imagine.
Guest:Isn't there some Nazi movie with, what's his name?
Marc:Jerry Lewis.
Marc:Yeah, Jerry Lewis, right?
Marc:It gets seen all the time.
Marc:I mean, like, not widespread, but people have copies of it, and every now and then, like, somebody sees it, you know?
Marc:Oh, no shit.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:It might even be that it's not even the full thing.
Marc:It's like an hour of it or something, which is probably plenty.
Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marc:But, yeah, I mean, that's what I'm talking about.
Marc:It's like, these things always get out eventually, says the guy sitting on a David Fincher episode we're not allowed to release.
Marc:Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:That could be a tell.
Guest:That could be a tell.
Guest:One day, we're just going to find it in the feed along with Michelle Obama.
Marc:I've thought about that so many times about like, what if I just put this out and it was like under a different name?
Marc:Like it was like, you know, episode 1632, Kaiser Soze or something like that.
Guest:yeah just something yeah i know i mean who who would find out you know everyone oopsie i pressed the wrong button yeah i dragged the wrong no like it would be that kind of thing like if i like somehow i got people wise to it for like you know a day be like yeah yeah and then i'm taking it down yeah exactly
Guest:Now we're talking.
Guest:Now we're talking.
Guest:I like the way this is going.
Guest:We can do this.
Guest:We can just sneak it in.
Guest:Maybe just an hour, Brendan.
Guest:How about an hour?
Guest:Why would I do that?
Guest:If I'm going to fuck with it, you're going to hear the whole thing.
Guest:I suppose so, yeah.
Guest:uh but you had uh on your feed michelle obama and her brother who is not the comic craig robinson that's right i had to make sure mark knew that i was like you know she's not her brother's not actually craig robinson totally different guy because because i'll be honest with you that i i would i would subscribe to that uh podcast uh very fast just
Guest:Craig Robinson and Michelle Obama just doing a thing.
Guest:But I enjoyed her brother and Michelle Obama.
Guest:That was great.
Guest:What made you guys lend out your feed?
Marc:I mean, well, I mean, if you got anyone who's listening to this would know that, like, we have never done this for a show that doesn't have anything to do with WTF.
Marc:We have only done it one other time for...
Marc:any show that wasn't WTF.
Marc:That was a time when, uh, Cliff Nesteroff who, who comes on this show a lot and who, you know, Mark respects his, uh, knowledge of comedic history.
Marc:And, um, uh, he wanted to do like a short form series that was, you know, uh,
Marc:documentary style stuff about the history of comedy.
Marc:Uh, and we kind of hooked them up with some people over at, back when we were with the, uh, the, the Earwolf network with, with their subscription service, Howl.
Marc:And one of their subscription offerings was this show by Cliff, uh,
Marc:which we then put an episode of it in our feed so that people could, you know, test it out, preview it, try it on for size.
Marc:And then if they wanted to hear the rest, they could go subscribe.
Marc:And, you know, we've done that for our own like bonus material and stuff, you know, we'll do a, you know, kind of drop a bonus thing in the feed and people can get a sample of it, see if they want to subscribe to this full Marin.
Marc:But this was really, we've, it's like one of those things where we saved it for an occasion where it made sense.
Marc:Cause you get asked these things all the time.
Marc:Like,
Marc:you know, Hey, can we, you know, do a feed drop and we would trade with you and do blah, blah, blah.
Marc:And we're like, I figure we can't, you know, it's like the, the, the, the, the feed is, uh, is sacred, you know, like, right.
Marc:But then it's like, Oh, the former first lady of the United States would like to do this.
Marc:And it was like, well, this is where you save up the capital for.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Exactly.
Marc:Right.
Marc:That's what I figured.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:So it really was just as simple as that.
Marc:I mean, we're partnered with ACAST, and it's like part of our partnership with them is to see if these type of things can work.
Marc:And they asked us, they said, they basically were like, we know this is probably a no, but we figured we should ask you anyway.
Marc:And I was like...
Marc:I don't know if this is a no, like this feels like a time to do it, you know, especially when we're like, Hey, there's no fucking democratic representation out there in the world.
Marc:Like in any, like everyone's like, Oh, we need like the left's Joe Rogan.
Marc:How about we just have like the people that folks already like, like Michelle, like the Obamas, like they're still very popular, you know, like put them out there in the world, have people going like, Oh, that's what it's like to be normal.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:We don't need – I'm sorry.
Guest:We don't need a fucking Democratic Joe Rogan.
Guest:Exactly.
Guest:Okay?
Guest:Like, what are we doing?
Guest:Okay?
Guest:Anyway.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:So it wasn't Michelle Obama, like, texted Mark and was like, hey, can you – can I put this on there?
Guest:It was the A-cast.
Guest:Right?
Marc:Yes, right.
Marc:But I mean, it was through there, you know, it was a request put in by Higher Ground, which is the, you know, production company that does these Obama podcasts.
Marc:And, you know, I think they just thought this was, you know, the ask that made sense for them.
Marc:And it was the ask that seemed right for us.
Guest:So, simple.
Guest:And I loved it.
Guest:Oh, good.
Guest:I found it so interesting.
Guest:Actually, I told my wife, too, that she has to listen to it because she has...
Guest:relations you know friendships like a lot that were very similar to uh what was being talked about on that show and i i it actually got me thinking i don't have too many friends and i was i was i was happy when uh uh michelle obama and uh her brother craig were like oh well in your 40s that's when like people start like falling off yeah yeah so i was like okay all right good so it's good that i only have a handful of friends because i i don't know what you do with more than a handful
Guest:I don't know either, but people seem to do it.
Guest:Like my wife has like a ton of friends and I'm just like, I don't want to talk to like five people, let alone like 15 people.
Guest:It just seems excessive.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I mean, I know some people who are like that and I, you know, it's not, there's no judgment on my end of it, but it's just, I'm definitely like,
Marc:Oh, I know why you're doing that.
Marc:Like, I know that that's, I know, I understand that that's important to you.
Marc:I understand that there's a certain amount of connection that you'd like to keep, you know, constant through your life, but it's just not for me.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I've, I have a friend who I work with, uh, this, uh, this woman, Shannon, who I actually, I was listening to the episode.
Guest:I was like, Oh, you know what?
Guest:I'm going to pause this.
Guest:I'm going to just check in with Shannon and like, give her a call.
Guest:And I was just telling her, I was like, you know, sorry if I don't like
Guest:contact you more or keep up with you.
Guest:And she's actually like, you know what?
Guest:You actually do a great job of it.
Guest:So that was a little reassuring.
Guest:But yeah, it definitely made me reflect on who I am as a person and as a friend.
Guest:And so I hope I'm a good friend to my friends.
Guest:And there are just some people who I don't ever hear from them.
Guest:They don't hear from me.
Guest:And like Craig Robinson was saying, it's a two-way street, right?
Guest:You got to
Guest:you got to give and you got to get.
Guest:So, uh, yeah, I don't feel too bad about it, but yeah, really, really fun episode.
Guest:And, uh, yeah, just, just also made me thought of like, you know, Mark's friends and like Mark, I was, I was happy to see that Mark went to Houston and like went to someone's house and everything.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:He went to Mo's house.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It's funny.
Guest:He said that like, oh, I didn't have anything to bring.
Guest:And it reminded me that whenever I go to someone's house, I usually do like what George Bailey does in It's a Wonderful Life.
Guest:And I did that to you.
Guest:And if no one knows what George Bailey and his wife did is he brought over, they brought over salt that life may always have flavor, bread that this house may never know hunger, and wine that joy and prosperity may reign forever.
Guest:So I did that for you when you bought your house.
Guest:You did, yes.
Guest:I was so touched when I had my house and I had you over and you returned the favor.
Guest:I can't believe you remembered that.
Marc:I think I gave you like salt and vinegar potato chips.
Guest:Yes.
Marc:And I mean, I think we had some other like house and home stuff.
Marc:But yes, we tried to make sure we got all the all the George Bailey points in his.
Guest:That was really sweet.
Guest:And I recommend that to everyone.
Guest:It's a, it's a fun little thing that I like to do.
Guest:And like some people, you're just like, okay.
Guest:Other people, it's like, oh, look at that.
Guest:That's nice.
Guest:So yeah, it's a, it's a fun little thing to do.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:No, I, and I, I'm, I'm always in favor of bringing gifts.
Marc:You bring, bring anything.
Marc:Like nobody, like people, people, people think, oh, well, what should I get?
Marc:Nobody cares.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Don't get, yeah.
Marc:Just, just show up with something.
Marc:People are thrilled.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Exactly.
Guest:Vegan chocolate, apparently.
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:Mark has a lot of interesting things.
Guest:So that ask me anything.
Guest:First of all, have you or Mark ever done one of those Reddit AMAs?
Marc:He's done a bunch of them.
Marc:I did one with him once, which is basically just me doing it because he was like, I don't want to do this.
Marc:And that was when, when, when we did our book.
Marc:Um, but, uh, but yeah, we, we did those AMAs for Reddit and those are, you know, basically the same thing.
Marc:You read a question that somebody wrote and then you type an answer out.
Marc:So it's similar to this thing.
Guest:Yeah, well, he has an electric bike, which I'm very impressed that he has one of those as swag.
Guest:That's fun.
Guest:And he actually got me thinking in like, you know, because he was talking, he was answering a listener's question about, you know, what made you move and everything.
Guest:And it's like, he had to think about like, well,
Guest:you know, do I want to die in this house?
Guest:And like, I can move and like, got me, you know, I'm Aaron and I are also thinking about that.
Guest:Like what, we don't have kids.
Guest:What are we doing?
Guest:You know, like I'm in, I'm in New Jersey and it's fine, but like, we might have to move somewhere like closer to family.
Guest:So just, you know, just got, got the old gears turning in the, in the head there.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Well, that's, I mean, I, I, I talk about it with Dawn all the time.
Marc:Like, you know, we're, we've been here in this exact neighborhood that we're in now for going on 25 years now.
Marc:And well, and it's like, we love it here, but it's also, it's like, there's nothing, there's no reason you have to stay in the place you've been in.
Marc:Like you can go somewhere else.
Marc:And like, to me, my ideal is like to find somewhere where I can just kind of like park my,
Marc:you know, necessities and, um, you know, have a mailing address and then live the rest of my life out of like a suitcase where, you know, you go live somewhere for three months, four months, then you move somewhere else.
Marc:Then I can just, I'm like, I'm going to spend the second half of my life just in a, you know, in another spot for 20, 30 years.
Marc:Like, no, I'd like to, I'd like to find things I haven't found yet.
Marc:You know, it's called a bum Jules.
Guest:You want to be a bum.
No,
Guest:I'll just be Brendan, Chris.
Marc:No more, no less.
Guest:Well, Mike Elias, really interesting cat.
Guest:Wait a minute.
Marc:Hang on.
Marc:I got to stop you right there for a second.
Marc:Because you just said his name.
Marc:Oh, no.
Marc:You said Mike Elias.
Guest:Did I say it correctly?
Marc:No, you didn't.
Marc:And to me...
Marc:I couldn't, I saw his name, Mike Elias.
Marc:I mean like Elias is just, that's a name.
Marc:It's from the Bible.
Marc:It's like Elijah.
Marc:It's Elias.
Marc:I've seen it all my life.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:There's the Elias sports bureau where we get all our baseball statistics from, right?
Marc:Elias, Elias, never ever would have questioned it.
Marc:So Wednesday before Mark recorded the intro, I,
Marc:he says he sends me a note that says have to find out how to say mike's last name so i'm like now i'm like second i'm looking at it staring at it elias how else how else would you possibly say that name like i couldn't even think of i could i couldn't conceive of saying it the way you just said it it never would have ever occurred to me
Marc:So I, but now I'm like, am I paranoid or something?
Marc:So I go find, I go find a clip of him on another podcast.
Marc:It's that guy, Dean Del Rey, the comedian, Mark's friend.
Marc:And Dean says, how do you say your name?
Marc:And he says, Mike Elias.
Marc:I'm like, okay, good.
Marc:I'm not crazy.
Marc:All right.
Marc:It's Mike Elias.
Marc:So I text Mark.
Marc:I say, I listened to him say his name.
Marc:It's just, and I spelled out E E space lie.
Marc:Like I'm telling a lie L I E us.
Marc:Right.
Marc:With the emphasis to two capital E's there.
Marc:I don't think there's any other way to say that.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Elias.
Marc:Right.
Yeah.
Marc:Did that just fuck with him so much?
Marc:Well, I said, not sure there's any other way to say it.
Marc:That's all.
Marc:But that's what I got.
Marc:And he wrote back.
Marc:Yeah, I talked to him.
Marc:All good.
Marc:So he called the guy up, said, how do you say your name?
Marc:And he said exactly what I just wrote.
Marc:Elias.
Marc:so I get the intro from Mark.
Marc:And meanwhile, while he's sending, you know, he's recording and sending to me, I'm editing the actual episode in the episode.
Marc:He says it wrong.
Marc:He says, well, how do you say your last name?
Marc:Elias, Elias.
Marc:And he says, Elias.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:I wasn't sure.
Marc:So it's in the episode.
Marc:He's already, he's already heard it once.
Marc:And,
Marc:Now he's called the guy on the phone and asked him, how do you say your name?
Marc:Elias.
Marc:I have told him it's Elias.
Marc:And I'm listening to this intro that he sends me.
Marc:And he's like, on the show today, Mike Elias.
Marc:Like, what the fuck?
Marc:And he says it like three more times.
Marc:I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to, I don't know.
Marc:I don't know what to do.
Marc:That's where I get it from, by the way.
Marc:So go on.
Marc:It's contagious.
Marc:You get on this Marin feed.
Marc:I wonder if Michelle Obama is going to start doing it too.
Marc:She's like, oh, the Russian president, Vladimir Putin.
Marc:What?
Marc:Why is she saying it that way?
Marc:Get him on the phone.
Marc:How do you say your name?
Yeah.
Marc:so i texted mark i said and i'm trying to be delicate with this because like initially i want to be like what the fuck dude but i you know let's not jump down his throat yeah i say you somehow managed to say his name wrong
Marc:And he wrote back, Jesus fuck.
Marc:What the fuck is wrong with me?
Marc:So angering.
Marc:It's like my brain does what I'm dead set on not doing.
Marc:Can't get a break from myself.
Marc:Dumb.
Marc:Wired to make things difficult for me.
Marc:Oh my God.
Marc:And for you.
Marc:Oh my God.
Marc:So I need to calm down now.
Marc:I said, there's just a lot on your mind.
Marc:That's it.
Marc:When that happens, you know, you make mistakes.
Marc:It's okay.
Marc:He just wrote back, so mad.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:So I send him an audio clip of Mike saying his name so he can hear it.
Marc:No, this keeps going.
Marc:Then I send him the audio of him saying it wrong.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:So.
Marc:i'm like okay listen to him say his name now listen to you saying it wrong and then just say that again with the right name right just so that way it'll match when i edit it in so i sent him i needed him to do it twice i sent him two parts where it has you know him saying it wrong but then he can match the tone and now just say the name right using the way mike says it
Marc:You just heard it.
Marc:Just do all that at once.
Marc:He goes, okay, got it.
Marc:Damn.
Marc:Brain is weird.
Marc:That was his response to me.
Marc:So I wait five, 10 minutes, whatever it is.
Marc:He sends me the clip.
Marc:And now in the clip, I hear him listening to himself, right?
Marc:He, I hear him play Mike saying Mike Elias, right?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Then I hear him listening to him doing his monologue and saying Mike Elias.
Marc:Right.
Marc:And he's, as he's listening to it, I hear him going like, and on the show today and on the show today, like he's trying to match his tone with what he said.
Marc:And then the clip stops and he's like, and on the show today, Mike Elias.
Guest:I'm like, fuck.
Fuck.
Marc:I'm like, how did you fucking do this?
Marc:It just said it wrong.
Marc:And then he just said it again the wrong way.
Marc:Like what is going on?
Marc:But also now I'm like, I had texted to him just all caps, dude, but I erased that.
Marc:I didn't send that.
Okay.
Marc:And I just wrote instead.
Marc:So I'm not exactly sure what to do about this, but you still keep saying it the wrong way.
Marc:And I see nothing come back, no text or anything.
Marc:And then all of a sudden, boom, just the audio clip comes up.
Marc:So like he must have read my text and was like, instead, like he was like,
Marc:not even going to respond.
Marc:I'm just going to go back and do it again.
Marc:And then, so with the clip, he then sends it a text saying, God, it's set in my mind, fucked up, couldn't unfuck it.
Marc:This one should do it.
Marc:So I listened.
Marc:It was right.
Marc:I said, got it.
Guest:He said, thank Christ.
Marc:So you saying his name wrong as well, because we're in a live environment here and I could just correct you, was much easier to deal with than Mark sending it to me from Austin.
Guest:Can I ask, were you prepared to even divulge that until I said his name wrong?
Guest:Oh, I was going to tell everybody no matter what.
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Guest:You're just waiting for me to fall through that trap door.
Guest:They were waiting for the monkey to get the banana.
Guest:And there it is.
Marc:You know, when you watch those like Japanese domino videos where they're like going to do an entire warehouse of dominoes and like a beetle goes across the floor and just sets them off early.
Marc:That was you.
Marc:You just, you just were the beetle that scurried in front of my domino.
Yeah.
Guest:You're welcome.
Guest:You're welcome, everyone.
Guest:Oh, boy.
Guest:Oh, man.
Guest:See, I'm glad I don't.
Guest:I'm not the only one that doesn't pronounce things correctly.
Guest:Star tracks and whatnot.
Marc:But by the way, I did not know what I like.
Marc:I didn't know virtually anything about Mike Elias.
Marc:And I knew I just knew he was a guy.
Marc:Mark wanted to talk to him.
Marc:Mark was like, he has a good story.
Marc:I should talk to him.
Marc:sounds great.
Marc:That's fine by me.
Marc:I do a hundred Mike Eliases.
Marc:If they were around, it's just like the way, you know, there's not a ton of people that you just grab off the streets that, you know, are not in the entertainment world, but have stories they could tell.
Marc:Right.
Marc:And part of that was like, I did check out like, what's the deal with this guy?
Marc:Okay.
Marc:Ship John.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I've known my, I've heard Mark talk about that.
Marc:And, uh,
Marc:And I saw a news article about him that, you know, it said something like local, you know, businesses raise money for, you know, Ship John founder who was injured in an accident.
Marc:That was all I really knew about it.
Marc:So I'm listening to this thing.
Marc:And, you know, Mark says like, oh, is that when you got attacked?
Marc:And I think I did see like in the blurb that I saw about it, that it was like a robbery or something.
Guest:Mm-hmm.
Marc:But I didn't think much of it.
Marc:I mean, he was on our show, so he was alive and he wasn't like, you know, debilitated or something.
Marc:So I just figured it was like one of those things where somebody like, you know, knocked him over or something.
Marc:He took a hatchet to the head.
Guest:Can you imagine?
Guest:What?
Guest:Right?
Right.
Guest:Like that's crazy.
Guest:And also he sells hatchets.
Guest:Like really obsessed with hatchets.
Marc:I was just like, Oh no, maybe I had to think about that.
Marc:I'm like, what do I like too much?
Marc:Is that what's going to be?
Marc:What kills me?
Marc:isn't that the adage yeah is a wrestler gonna pile drive me hey i would not be surprised like that would be what it would be like if like i would go to some wrestling show and they'd be like you want to try out in the ring and i'd be like sure paralyzed yeah yeah hologram we're just gonna flip you into a different dimension yeah oh my god
Guest:That is, I mean, that is a harrowing story.
Guest:The fact that he woke up on the operating table and Mark was like, well, that's not good.
Guest:You're not supposed to do that.
Guest:He's like, oh, no, no, before, before they put me up.
Guest:Like, okay.
Guest:All right.
Guest:That makes more sense.
Guest:But like, that's horrifying.
Guest:And the fact that his partner was able to remember that, oh,
Guest:One of the bike riders put down a soda can and they were able to reverse engineer that so that they found where they purchased it and they got footage of it and then they can find the person.
Guest:That was incredible.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah, like he said, it was like a CSI thing.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Like they actually did.
Marc:You're always told like, ah, it's never like that.
Guest:No, that was like that.
Guest:That's unbelievable.
Guest:And look, you know, I don't love the fact that there's cameras everywhere, but in this case, like that's amazing.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:What a crazy fucked up story.
Guest:And the fact that he's still, you know, has hatchets on his site and stuff.
Guest:Just wild.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Have you ever bought any of his shirts?
Guest:Oh, no, no.
Marc:I'm not, I'm not like, you know, a close guy like that.
Marc:Like,
Marc:They look awesome.
Marc:And I'm sure they, if you enjoy, you know, that type of fashion, it's great.
Marc:But that's not me.
Marc:Like, look at me.
Marc:I'm wearing a fucking Uniqlo hoodie right now.
Marc:Yeah, I was going to say, I'm a gap in the Old Navy kind of person, unfortunately.
Marc:Comfort first.
Marc:That's all I care about, man.
Marc:Yeah, yeah.
Marc:I mean, like I have some nice clothes for nice times, but I'm not, you know, Mark's a public person.
Marc:He should have nice clothes all the time.
Marc:But and it is cool that if he's going to wear nice clothes, he wears these handcrafted ones that this guy, you know, puts a lot of care into.
Marc:I really loved his philosophy where he's like, I'm not a good businessman.
Marc:So I just want to make this thing.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Which is like that you're looking at it like that.
Marc:Like, we just wanted to do this thing and be left alone to do it.
Marc:Like, we were never like, no, you know what we got to do, though?
Marc:Now we got to build the empire.
Marc:We're going to be like, you know, it's like that thing with Joe Rogan on the Tom Green show.
Marc:You know, how do I make money out of this?
Guest:Right, right.
Marc:We never did that.
Marc:And so like, I could totally relate to this guy, like being like, can I pay the people I need to pay to get this done?
Marc:And can I, you know, recoup what I put into making these things?
Marc:Great.
Marc:But like selling it, I would be stupid because he still wants to make this stuff.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You guys are like birds of a feather.
Guest:And like, you know, I can tell that, you know, Mark and Mike were our kindred spirits that way.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Although I love when he's like, how old are you?
Marc:He's like 43.
Marc:He's like, oh, you're a kid.
Marc:You're just a kid.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Just wild.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I mean, I love episodes like that.
Marc:We don't have a ton of them.
Marc:Like I said, it's not every day you can find someone who's just good at another trade, and then you're able to have a good conversation with them for an hour.
Marc:But yeah, it happens sometimes.
Marc:We had the grandson of Dr. Bronner's
Marc:like to come out and talk about the soap ones and, uh, uh, you know, Mark's, uh, Mark's eye doctor, who's also like a jazz musician, you know, like those are ones like there, there, there are a few of them, few and far between, but you know, it's still something we can do.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And, uh, and I think that's the thing about Mark is that he can kind of talk to anyone, you know, like you put him, put him in front of someone, like he's going to be able to talk to him, you know, just like it from where it goes is, uh, is it up to him and his mood?
Guest:But, uh, but yeah, he can, he can get, get, uh, anything, a blood from a stone, you know,
Marc:Well, also, I mean, there's a history of shows that we've done where like a person like 45 minutes in is like, oh yeah, I died once or something.
Guest:You're like, what?
Marc:Josh Homme from Queens of the Stone Age, like he had a staph infection that killed him and he was dead for like five minutes or something.
Marc:Like, and you know, that just came up like, you know, almost at the end of the episode.
Marc:You're like, what?
Marc:This went way differently than I expected it to go.
Guest:Wow.
Guest:Crazy.
Marc:Well, I hope everyone out there has been enjoying the shows this week.
Marc:And if you've got anything to say about them, or if maybe if your ask Mark question didn't make it into this round, you could send them here to us and we could try to answer them as best we can.
Marc:There will be more ask Marks as well, though, coming up using the questions that were sent in by listeners.
Marc:You can go to the episode description of this episode and click on the link below.
Marc:to send us your comments about anything at all.
Marc:And I know a lot of you have been sending stuff in based on some of the prompts that we've had in recent weeks.
Marc:One of them, it was, you know, a particular thing I mentioned about movies that are one and done for you.
Marc:And it was interesting when I first brought this up, it was in relation to movies that like I was like, I watched that once and I didn't want to watch it again because I felt like I would like spoil the magic.
Marc:Right.
Marc:And it's interesting because the feedback that I've gotten on this is like two categories.
Marc:Right.
Marc:There's like the one and done because, you know, you feel like you're never going to have that experience again a second time.
Marc:And you want to kind of preserve it the way it was.
Marc:You're afraid you won't like the movie again.
Marc:But then there's also like a one and done because you like the movie, but you're not going to put yourself through it again.
Marc:Like it was too rough or disturbing or something.
Marc:And there were a bunch of those.
Marc:Like people wrote in to say, I don't know who this person was.
Marc:They didn't put a name, but they said American History X.
Marc:Loved it, but once was enough.
Marc:And I assume that has to do with the curb stomping and violence of that movie.
Marc:There's a lot of movies I think of that, like the violence, like there might be something that's just so raw and uncomfortable that you're like, yeah, I don't have any need to see that again.
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Guest:Although I'll be honest with you, when you mentioned this, it gave me pause because I was thinking, fuck, I probably own like all these movies on DVD because I just tend to collect DVDs.
Guest:So I'm really nervous.
Guest:And guess what?
Guest:American History X is definitely a movie I own and I have never popped it in to my DVD player.
Marc:Now, is that because you just don't want to watch it again or you just haven't?
Guest:I mean, it's just not in the mood, you know?
Guest:At the time, it's like I probably bought it from Blockbuster in their $5 bin.
Guest:And just like, who's in the mood to watch American History Act?
Marc:Yeah, I would say that's all of these movies that came in as like examples of that are generally movies where I'm like, I get why you would watch it once.
Marc:But then if you were knowing what it is, how can you get yourself in the mood to watch it again?
Marc:Right.
Marc:So like someone wrote in here to say the first movie that popped in my head was irreversible.
Marc:That's absolutely a movie you should not watch more than once.
Marc:What is that?
Marc:It's a French film, Gaspar Noé movie about, um, a couple who goes through a kind of marital spat in the, you know, during a party, the woman leaves, she is, uh, sexually assaulted in a like 10 minute graphic sequence.
Marc:And then the, the husband and his friend go out to find the guy who did it and they kill a different guy and
Marc:Just bashes head in with a with a fire extinguisher.
Marc:And the hook of the movie is that you see that first and then the whole movie goes backwards so that the movie ends with the couple blissfully in bed about to depart on their day.
Marc:And it's a pretty big head trip of a movie.
Marc:Really well done, but absolutely not anything you'd want to put yourself through twice.
Marc:oh i might check that out just because it sounds like an interesting you know concept it's interesting it's really well made and there's nothing about it that i would be like it's it's um look it's hard to talk about a movie that has a 10 minute long sexual assault scene and say like oh that's not exploitative like it you're watching it it's it's there's no way to get around that but at the same time you're like fuck that's
Marc:I mean, what are you going to say about the opening of Saving Private Ryan, right?
Marc:It's like, that's what war is, right?
Marc:So it's the same thing here.
Marc:It's like, well, that's what that is, what you're seeing.
Marc:So I fully understand why no one would ever want to watch that again, but it's definitely a movie I was glad I saw the first time.
Marc:Another one on here from Terry is Death Wish 2, which I get it.
Marc:Another movie with a home invasion within it with a with a terrible sexual assault and, you know, horrible home invasion stuff.
Marc:But I would say this, Terry, not sure you should watch that one in the first place.
Marc:Like the Death Wish movies are just bottom of the barrel.
Marc:You know, Jason Bailey, who we know from the book Fun City Cinema, and he's been on WTF before.
Marc:He did a podcast about New York movies, and one of them was about the Death Wish movies.
Marc:It's really great.
Marc:And Alex Winter, you know, from the Bill and Ted movies.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:He is in Death Wish 3.
Marc:No kidding.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And so he is a guest on that podcast and is great.
Marc:He gives a lot of great insight into why the guy who made those, Michael Winner, was just a fucking total reprobate and probably shouldn't have been allowed to make movies.
Marc:Was like a pretty awful human being, sounds like.
Marc:And yeah, like, I don't want to say he was an awful human being, but definitely sounds like he had a loose ethics.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And, uh, and so that reveals itself in the making of those movies.
Marc:Uh, I would advise against watching the death wish movies for sure.
Marc:Not even once.
Guest:I, um, so, you know, we always say like, oh, find an, find an episode of a show, you know, find a movie that you like and like, listen to that for these podcasts.
Guest:And like we're fun city cinema.
Guest:I was like, oh, death wish.
Guest:Nah, I'm good.
Guest:I'm going to, I'm going to listen to something else.
Guest:Taxi driver sounds great.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know, like not, not so much of that.
Marc:uh i don't advise watching death wish i i also i don't advise watching funny games but ryan makes a good case for it as a movie that works once uh ryan wrote in to say funny games the original not the remake with uh with our former guest brady corbet uh but uh but he said i don't think it would be as impactful the second time and i also don't want to feel that way again
Marc:horrified by what, by what we are capable of horrified by the randomness of life and guilty for being complicit in what happened to those characters.
Marc:It's a great movie, but not one that I need to experience again.
Marc:I, I, I would say, I think in this day and age, probably no one needs to experience it.
Marc:Like, I think we're living through some pretty horrifying things that we're all capable of.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And, uh, I'm, I'm not sure you need funny games for that, but point taken, it is a solidly well-made movie, probably pretty solidly well-made twice, uh, by the same director.
Marc:But, um, uh, yeah, I've, I've never actually even seen the original.
Marc:I've only seen the English language remake.
Marc:So, uh, and did not want to watch it a second time for sure.
Marc:yeah um dawn uh my wife uh she wanted to contribute her own uh suggestion here which uh i fully agree with because i remember walking out of the theater with her and being like that was so great let's never see it again which was million dollar baby yeah that's a that's a movie it's like okay never again thank you
Marc:yeah we we walked out in was like we saw like a matinee we walked out it was like you know walking we walked home from the theater it was a you know bright sunny day even though it might have been like winter time or just the very end of fall uh it was still very nice out we took a walk and we were just like so bummed out so quiet and like yeah we're like i'm not sure i like the way i'm feeling right now
Guest:Yeah, that movie, for me, it's Manchester by the Sea.
Guest:No thanks on ever seeing that again.
Guest:I'm good.
Guest:That's interesting.
Guest:I haven't watched it twice.
Marc:I would definitely watch it again.
Marc:Why?
Marc:Why would you watch it again?
Marc:Because it's got one hard thing in it that's pretty rough.
Marc:I think it's handled pretty well.
Marc:Sure.
Marc:It's not graphic or anything.
Marc:The acting is so good and true in that movie that I do feel like it speaks to any kind of grief.
Marc:It speaks to seeing people trying to work through tremendous emotional blockages in their lives that...
Marc:it does not have to be about the thing that the movie is about.
Marc:Right.
Marc:And I remember feeling very appreciative of that movie when it came out that to me, it was, there was, there was a time, it was like right after Trump's first election.
Marc:So like 2017, and there was all this art coming out, art, I call it, but like, you know, theater, literature, movies, movies,
Marc:that were trying to deal with the working class from the perspective of the forgotten man who has been let down by the structures and institutions that have been set up by America.
Marc:And there's this play that won the Pulitzer Prize called Sweat.
Marc:And man, I hated that show.
Marc:And I thought it was so patronizing.
Marc:And like, I think the big thing I react to with all these things is it's like, it takes all the agency away from the people and the characters that are there.
Marc:It sets them up as all like patsies and pawns to like pharmaceutical companies and whatever.
Marc:And it's like,
Marc:there are humans making real choices every day.
Marc:You know, it's all the hillbilly elegy shit.
Marc:That's another perfect example.
Marc:And I just found Manchester by the sea was so honest about the fact that these were like working class white people that still had all their fucking privilege intact.
Marc:And that what happens in their situation is way more common that you can have this horrible, awful tragedy that happened through your own negligence.
Marc:And then the cops are like, all right, you're free to go.
Marc:And the guy's like, what?
Marc:Shouldn't I kill myself?
Marc:Like...
Marc:I should be punished for this.
Marc:And it's like, no, no, you're white, sir.
Marc:Adios.
Marc:You're just like the normal house down the street.
Marc:You know, like there was just something I thought was so of the moment about that with that movie.
Marc:At the same time, I could totally get why you wouldn't want to watch it again, but I would watch it again for sure.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:um brett in indiana said he uh he felt that he feels this way about toy story three that's fucking interesting he said i took my three young kids to see toy story three on father's day 2010 my youngest was four months from being born up to that point toy story one and two were easily the most watched movies in our house
Marc:The plot for Toy Story 3 involved Andy going off to college and parting ways with Buzz and Woody and the gang.
Marc:Watching that movie in the theater with my kids, two of whom hadn't even started kindergarten yet, one of whom hadn't been born, and having to face the thought that someday they'll grow older and leave, and that watching Toy Story with dad will no longer be their idea of a good time was just too much.
Marc:Maybe it would land even harder with the hindsight of all those years in between.
Marc:I don't know and I don't ever plan to find out, but I'm proud to say that if I asked any or all of them to sit down and watch Toy Story 1 or 2 with me, they'd do so without complaint.
Marc:I'll be sure that we watch those again soon, but I'm letting Toy Story 3 remain back on Father's Day 2010.
Marc:I can totally get that.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I feel like I've seen Toy Story 3 a couple of times.
Guest:And like, I guess maybe because I don't have kids.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:I saw it before I had kids.
Marc:And so I don't think that it hit me with that feeling.
Marc:Like where I was like, oh, I don't want to put myself through this again.
Marc:Interesting.
Marc:But I could totally get why I would.
Marc:Especially that's the one where they like almost die in an incinerator.
Marc:The Holocaust.
Guest:Yeah.
Yeah.
Marc:so i could get it uh but now then there's the ones where the the magic only works once right there's these these movies and people had some good ones for this uh and i i related to this one because like i remember exactly when this movie came out and i think this is another one for me i have never seen it a second time what do they got uh this person said my one and done movie is the blair witch project
Marc:which i saw in the theater when it was released in 1999 it was one of those first dates i went on with my husband and even though we were both smart asses i think we had both kind of fallen for the this is real footage hype at the time i lived in a house in the woods of western massachusetts and i was so scared after the movie that i stayed at my future husband's house in town for two days it was the perfect combination of an early found footage horror movie early internet marketing and an early relationship
Marc:We watched it again on VHS a couple of years later when viral marketing, genre movie making and our relationship had changed in different ways.
Marc:And we both thought this is the lamest thing ever.
Marc:So I guess we couldn't ever go back to the thrill of the first time we saw The Blair Witch.
Marc:But I do still remember it as one of our most romantic dates of our almost now 30 year relationship.
Marc:Wow.
Guest:That's great.
Marc:And I think you're totally right.
Marc:I remember having the same feeling.
Marc:Like, it felt really great in the moment, and I just had no desire to ever watch it.
Marc:And neither did anybody else, because they made a sequel that nobody saw.
Guest:I saw that movie.
Guest:It was not great.
Marc:Yeah, no, I can't imagine it was good.
Guest:The original Blair Witch, I saw at the Angelica in the city.
Guest:And it was like a special advanced screening.
Guest:And at the Angelica, you have to line up in the hallway.
Guest:So you're just waiting to be let in.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:It was kind of magical.
Guest:It was like...
Guest:Everyone was just abuzz about this movie that no one knows anything about.
Guest:There are props or, you know, like little news clippings that they put out in the hallway.
Guest:And so we go in, we watch the movie, and we honestly just – we didn't know what to think.
Guest:The lights went up, and I remember –
Guest:Everyone was just talking to each other about it.
Guest:Like it was like the first time I ever experienced that where we were all just like chatting amongst ourselves about like, well, was that fucking real?
Guest:I mean, there are credits that are rolling.
Guest:It was like, you know, who the caterer was, but we were just like, I don't know.
Guest:It might be real.
Guest:So yeah, that, that was a definitely the magic is one once and only once.
Marc:uh alan said the movie a time to kill uh which he said that you know the as a white man the trick the lawyer played on me at the end to prove i'm racially biased worked so well absolutely love that movie but it can never hit as hard again and i envy those that still have the opportunity to experience it for a first time uh brandy said the same thing that we said about the game uh she also said the sixth sense the others fight club although fight club i've watched like a thousand times
Marc:Um, but, but she was saying the kind of like twist thing does take the edge off it a little bit.
Marc:But another one that she mentioned was stir of echoes, which I've never even seen once.
Marc:That's the Kevin Bacon one.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And, uh, and inside man, which is interesting.
Marc:Cause like, I get why that might be like, Oh, once I know it, it'll be ruined.
Marc:But the performances.
Marc:I know.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:It's also just kind of enjoyable.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah, I mean, man, that Bollywood song is on my Spotify most played song.
Marc:Oh, yeah.
Guest:I love that damn song.
Guest:I love everything about that movie.
Guest:The cast, the direction.
Marc:Well, to be fair to Brandy, she said she would watch them again and they'd be good, but just wouldn't have that holy shit thrill they had the first time.
Marc:And that I get.
Marc:I get that for real.
Marc:Zach said the one that was exponentially worse on the second viewing is The Usual Suspects, which I feel is very similar to Inside Man.
Marc:And I think it is...
Marc:it is definitely in the years that have happened since diminished, right?
Marc:Like it definitely feels like a Tarantino knockoff.
Marc:And there's a whole Kevin Spacey of it.
Marc:Right.
Marc:The Spacey-ness and the Brian Singer-ness, right?
Marc:There's those problems.
Marc:I did watch it a bunch of times when it came out though.
Guest:It's so funny.
Guest:When I was checking my microphone today, I was actually, I actually did a line from Usual Suspects, which was Benicio Del Toro being like, can you hear me in the back?
Flip you up.
Guest:Flip you for real.
Guest:I don't know why I said it.
Guest:It's just a line that I just... It's in my rattling around my brain and I just said it.
Marc:Interesting that we can end on this one because I think this is pretty fascinating.
Marc:Regarding one and done movies, my taste doesn't compel me to watch Wes Anderson movies a second time with the exception of Royal Tenenbaums.
Marc:I understand how he might be someone's favorite director.
Marc:I tend to just watch his films once and never revisit them.
Marc:And I will say...
Marc:I think that's true of the later movies.
Marc:Like I've never gone back to the French dispatch.
Marc:I've never gone back to, well, I see my Island of Dogs a few times just because I have a kid and need to have it on.
Marc:But I never went back to- What about Moonrise Kingdom?
Guest:That's a kiddie movie.
Marc:Yeah, never went back to that.
Marc:Never went back to Grand Budapest.
Marc:Like they all felt satisfying once, but no kind of emotional hook to them to go get me watching them again.
Marc:But I saw Rushmore in the theater recently, and I was like, this movie fucking slaps, man.
Marc:So does Bottle Rocket and, of course, Tenenbaums.
Marc:And I think – I've watched Darjeeling Limited a few times, too.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Life Aquatic is an acquired taste, but I've watched it a couple of times.
Guest:I can see not wanting to do that.
Guest:But, yeah, you're right.
Guest:For some reason, I don't know if it's because I got older or maybe just Wes Anderson's moviemaking has –
Marc:evolved to a point where i'm like okay that was good i will now never watch that ever again yeah so yeah it's interesting uh well thank you everybody who sent in some stuff for us to look at there any other thoughts please send us a comment just click on the link that's in the episode description and i have some other stuff that people were sending in about uh movies that take place in one night and uh the franchises that have no bad entries
Marc:Don't have time to do them today, but we'll do them next week, as well as get parents some suggestions for your kids with another movie review from Owen McDonald, who has some comedies on the horizon.
Marc:And I think we'll check one of those out.
Marc:We'll get his take on whether or not it's appropriate for children.
Marc:And so that'll be next time.
Marc:And until then, I'm Brendan, and that's Chris.
Marc:Peace!