BONUS The Friday Show - Holiday Shuffle
Marc:There are a few things that top the sad drudgery into work of the losing team's fans.
Marc:You don't want to rob that.
Marc:Oh, yeah.
Marc:No, no, no.
Marc:I don't want to lose that at all.
Marc:Chris.
Marc:Brendan.
Marc:Are you ready to root, root, root for the home team?
Guest:Not today.
Marc:Also, you won't be home.
Marc:You'll be the away team.
Marc:You'll be rooting for the away team.
Marc:By the time people are listening to this, I guess you're jetting off to Houston, right?
Marc:Yes, I'm jetting off, hopefully having a better time on the plane than Mark does.
Yeah.
Marc:Yeah, I mean, I don't think I've ever had that vision of the plane falling to pieces and everyone on it dying in a fiery death to calm myself.
Marc:But whatever you got to do to make it through.
Marc:Can I be honest with you?
Marc:I do it every time.
Marc:I do it.
Marc:Oh, look at that.
Marc:You guys are kindred spirits.
Yes.
Marc:I don't think I've ever gotten that far.
Marc:I've, I've, I've only ever thought about like, Oh, what happens if like a, you know, window breaks, you know, like I, I always picture that kind of thing.
Marc:Like people flying around inside of here.
Marc:Like I, but in my mind, I'm like a bystander of that.
Marc:Like, Whoa, look at that.
Marc:That's pretty interesting.
Marc:Like if it were to happen.
Guest:I go the full way.
Guest:I go to, okay, I'm dead.
Guest:And what does my family get?
Guest:They must get like a huge package where they will never have to work ever again.
Guest:And like, at least I can give them that gift of like free airline tickets and money forever.
Marc:You know, in Fight Club, this is what presages the guy having a split personality.
Guest:Yeah, I don't.
Guest:I don't think I'm going to have a split personality between me and whatever Tyler Durden I have.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Oh, that'd be fun.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I was going to say, like, what would be the downside to that?
Marc:I mean, a lot less sleep, I guess.
Marc:But, you know, you probably aren't getting great sleep anyway.
Marc:I mean.
Guest:It is like Severance, right?
Guest:It's like the show Severance.
Guest:I sever myself and never the two shall meet.
Marc:The weird thing about Severance, and I have not watched the second season, but like, you know, as a bargain, as a deal, right?
Yeah.
Marc:Just on the face of it, it doesn't make sense.
Marc:Because, and we're going to talk about something later about labor and how much, you know, we work too much in America and we need more days off.
Marc:But the whole idea of the labor movement, the five-day work week, which should be less, by the way, that, you know, the eight-hour work day in a five-day work week, the whole idea was eight hours of work, eight hours of sleep, eight hours to do what you wish.
Marc:That was their, like,
Marc:Like that was, it's a good one.
Marc:It makes sense.
Marc:It's very like symmetrical.
Marc:And like, so if you're in severance and you decide I'm going to sever off 16 hours, right?
Marc:Like they're gone, right?
Marc:You're, you're sleeping and you're at work, right?
Marc:So you're getting the bum end of the stick.
Marc:If you're the one who's decided to,
Marc:to be on the Audi, you know, to be out like, like any other, any person goes to work, right?
Marc:There's it's eight hours.
Marc:Well, like it's not eight hours of, unless you're in hard labor, it's not eight hours of work all the time.
Marc:Like you fuck around, you go talk to people at the desk and whatever.
Marc:And it's like, you're missing out on that.
Marc:If you're an Audi, if you're an Audi, you like, I have decided that work sucks so much that I'm going to cut my life in two thirds.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Right.
Marc:66% of my life is now gone.
Marc:Right.
Marc:It's either asleep or in a comatose state in the, in the basement of this building.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:But, but you, the premise, you know, holds up where like, well, I, I don't enjoy going to work.
Guest:What if I can just cancel that out?
Guest:And like, you know, it's also like, well, what if I can sever myself from ever going to the dentist?
Guest:You know, like that, that's a, that's a, you know.
Guest:You have a dentist problem, don't you?
Guest:You don't like the dentist.
Guest:What is it?
Guest:For example, you know, it's like, okay, if I go to the dentist, well, maybe I can sever that so that I just walk into the dentist's office and I don't experience it.
Guest:Next thing I know, I'm now walking out of the dentist and my mouth hurts, but that's okay.
Marc:Now you're talking more like just eternal sunshine and spotless mind type stuff.
Marc:Like you can just kind of wipe one thing as opposed to like a direct period of time.
Marc:Like you have to, you know, the whole...
Marc:Or I guess, you know, your idea being a dental thing, it's like you go to a certain dental practice that has the sensors in the doorway or in an elevator or whatever, and that place zaps you of your time.
Guest:You will be watching the second season of Severance, but that is also...
Guest:comes into play as well, where it's like, well, what if, like Mark, he has a problem with flights?
Guest:What if he can just sever himself so that he walks onto the plane, and the next thing you know is he walks off of the plane, and he missed the whole transaction of the plane.
Guest:So, uh...
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:I'm a big fan of actually doing things like that.
Marc:Like, like if, if there was like, obviously there's some government conspiracy or whatever in, in severance, but like, if there was, if there is a thing you can do like that through science, it has advanced to the, to the, you know, point where you can actually make it happen, do it.
Marc:Like that was my main reaction to the MRNA vaccines.
Marc:Like, I'm like, this should be for everything.
Marc:Right.
Marc:All right.
Marc:Why would this not work for smoking?
Marc:Right.
Marc:You want to stop smoking?
Marc:We'll give you a shot that makes that stop happening.
Marc:Weight loss.
Marc:You're doing that right now.
Marc:In fact, I got a message here from Joe who wrote in to say...
Marc:just wanted to thank you guys for the short glp one talk i've struggled with weight my entire life and it's the first thing that has ever worked for me it's incredibly frustrating listening to people including my own parents deride it as cheating and laziness like i haven't tried for over 40 years to lose weight with no avail it was nice to hear you guys talk about the ridiculousness of that attitude yeah you know what joe that's a their problem not a your problem i'm
Marc:You know, like just just, you know, go with God and forget that people are going to have this block about that.
Marc:But anything that you can do to make your life easier and if it's not harmful, you should do it.
Marc:And like there's like there's been plenty of research on this stuff.
Marc:It is working like what?
Marc:what that's the other thing people tell you like well what you don't know in 10 years what will happen do you know what else that's true about being overweight fucking diets right yeah well definitely being overweight right but also like you know how many diets there have been through our lifetimes where it's like oh just do this and then like yeah 10 years 15 years later they're like yeah that diet wasn't good it was breaking down people's kidneys and shit right too many to even name honestly yeah right so so like
Marc:There's always progress.
Marc:There's always attempts to, you know, fine tune things.
Marc:But like when the science is pointing in the direction of something we've made tremendous advancements in and you can use it to help better your life, you should fucking do that.
Marc:I mean, don't get me started on PEDs.
Marc:I will take up the whole show.
Marc:I'm a pro PED guy.
Guest:Barry Bonds is, you know, should be the hall of fame and it should not have been ridiculed.
Guest:Yeah, for sure.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I mean, like, I guess here, like, yeah, we, my, my brief TLDR on PEDs is like, yeah, you can't break rules.
Marc:Like rules are rules, but like, you can also acknowledge that the rules are stupid.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Like, especially when it's like, Hey, everybody's doing something.
Marc:Like I always laugh at the idea that like the PED, like, you know, made this guy better or whatever.
Marc:And it's like, first of all, you gotta be really fucking good in the first place.
Guest:Exactly.
Guest:Like the PD wasn't helping him hit the ball, you know, it's not like he's already a world historic hitter.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:It's not limitless.
Marc:you know the other thing is speaking of limitless it's like there are a million things that athletes do that are way shady and like turn them into superhumans but like it's not illegal like tiger woods has better than 2020 vision because of the surgery he had on his eyes like does that fucking right is that cheating what shouldn't he be banned from the sport you know right
Marc:And like, remember all that stuff, like before they knew that Lance Armstrong was doping, right?
Marc:He used to do all this shit.
Marc:Like he would go to like a hyperbaric chamber, go to high altitudes, do all this shit that would thin your blood.
Marc:And it's like stuff that is scientifically proven to make you go...
Marc:harder and faster, like for peak endurance.
Marc:It's like, that's why all the Olympic training facilities are like at high elevations.
Marc:And it's like, so that shit's okay.
Marc:But he put a needle in his ass and that was wrong.
Marc:Like, I don't get it.
Marc:Right.
Marc:The line is very subjective.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Well, we will get back to our national pastime in a few minutes, but I did want to check with you on anything else this week other than Mark's plane crash stories that caught your attention.
Yeah.
Guest:His plane crash story, man, it hits me like right in the feels, I'll be honest.
Guest:And just like, just want to point out, I've been on so many different types of planes.
Guest:I've jumped out of planes.
Guest:You have?
Guest:Yeah, yeah, twice.
Guest:I've jumped out twice.
Guest:Once by my, the first time by myself.
Guest:Like no one was strapped to my back.
Guest:just had a parachute on and I had to walk out onto a little brick of wood onto the, the, uh, the wing of the plane and had to just jump out of that plane.
Guest:And where was this?
Guest:It was in a upstate, not upstate New York, but like between New York and New Jersey, you know, that, um, like bear mountain area.
Guest:Gotcha.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It was like, uh, I think it was called like shut up and jump.
Guest:Uh, but yeah, I took like a six hour course and, uh, and I was, that seems like enough time.
Yeah.
Guest:I got to pull my own ripcord and everything.
Guest:It was great.
Guest:I got a picture on my wall of me out on the plane.
Guest:Now, two guys, two instructors are on the side of me to make sure I don't, like, spin out and, you know, point break, you know, and kill myself.
Marc:See, that's the thing.
Marc:I couldn't, like, I did a scuba dive once, and I don't have certification, but you could get the, like, one-day certification.
Marc:I think you did it without getting anything.
Marc:None of it.
Guest:It was like, yo, dude, you might die.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Like that was the thing.
Marc:They were like, you might die from this.
Marc:And, and I just remember being like, okay, but I'm in control of it.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Like, like all the stuff that's dangerous is like you fuck up your breathing.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Or you move too fast.
Marc:Right.
Marc:So like, I feel like I could.
Marc:manage that fear right like that like I wasn't scared doing it because I was like just do what you know you should do breathe easy and in and out and you know don't stop as you're going down the line and all that stuff like I could do it I would not be able to do a thing where they're like oh by the way a gust of wind might come by and you just tumble into nothingness laughter laughter
Marc:i mean you know the wind is part of it but you know you just you just go with god and hope that bag that that was packed by some stranger um when i was in mexico we did uh we did the like uh canopy um uh zip lines you know like you go up to the top of the trees you do the zip lines around the whole jungle and uh it was great and then
Marc:there was some day we were looking for something to do like, uh, as a, maybe an anniversary thing or, you know, I don't know something that Don and I, we had some time to ourselves.
Marc:We could go like take a few days, you know, vacation somewhere.
Marc:And, uh, and like the place we were looking at, they had like zip lines.
Marc:Right.
Marc:And we were like, Oh, you want to do that?
Marc:And yeah, let's do that.
Marc:And now at this point we have a child and I'm, but I'm remembering back to like Mexico, like, Oh, we zipped around everywhere.
Marc:It was fucking great.
Marc:And,
Marc:And I'm looking at like the thing as I'm signing off on the waiver.
Marc:And it's like, you know, all the stuff that like, they're not, we're not held liable for this.
Marc:And I'm not worried about like liability.
Marc:Cause like those things aren't worth the paper they're written on.
Marc:But like, I am like thinking about like, Oh yeah, you could fucking die on these things.
Marc:Like, like you're literally thousands of feet from the ground.
Marc:And I'm like, I got a kid, man.
Marc:I can't do this anymore.
Marc:I said to Dawn, I'm like, I,
Marc:I think our zipline days are over.
Marc:Like, I don't think we're doing this anymore.
Marc:Like, you just have to like, okay, we're in a plane, we're flying somewhere, plane crashes, we're dead.
Marc:What are you going to do?
Marc:The car is going to happen much more easily out in a car somewhere.
Marc:You know, like you're, you, you get in a car every day and you take your life into your hands.
Marc:Cause there's just way more fatalities with that than, than most other things.
Marc:But like, I don't know this voluntary thing where you're like, yeah, sure.
Marc:I'll do it.
Marc:There's just like a cutoff point.
Marc:There's like a point where it's like, nope, that's done.
Guest:Can't do that anymore.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I totally get that for parents.
Guest:And like, I've, I've been there for me.
Guest:Um, I'm just getting married and I was doing my, my, my last marathon ever did.
Guest:And halfway through, I'm like, what am I doing?
Guest:Like, I'm going to be breaking my body.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know, like I have a wife to like, think about.
Guest:So I like, kind of, kind of held back.
Guest:I,
Marc:Wife and also like quality of life.
Marc:Yeah, exactly.
Marc:You don't want to be 60 and you're like, man, I have no knees.
Marc:They're totally gone.
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Guest:Like, oh, I got that double knee surgery when I was 50 was weird.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:But yeah, so yeah, going back to the flights, I personally love flights.
Guest:I've been on a flight from like Albany to like this little town in upstate New York, like I think it's called Otisburg.
Guest:It's on the border of Canada.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:In New York.
Guest:And it was a three row plane.
Guest:And I was in the first row and I was right behind the pilot.
Guest:Like it was a plane where I can see all the instruments.
Guest:Yeah, I've done that.
Guest:A Cessna.
Guest:Oh yeah.
Guest:It is a wild time.
Guest:And I think that was the scariest thing.
Guest:I think Mark should do that one day.
Marc:See, the funny thing about that, I was not scared in the Cessna.
Marc:And you know why?
Marc:Why?
Marc:Because the pilot did not give a shit.
Marc:Like we got in there-
Marc:He should have been.
Marc:He was on his phone.
Guest:Doesn't he know he can't use those on the plane?
Guest:Is that on airplane mode?
Marc:He was playing Candy Crush.
Marc:We go up in the thing.
Marc:He gets his little thing, level, altimeter, whatever the fuck.
Marc:I don't know.
Marc:I'm making up what it is.
Marc:I don't know.
Marc:And he hits a button.
Marc:The thing is flying.
Marc:He's like tooling around on his phone.
Marc:I'm sitting right next to him.
Marc:Like they were like, I think six people total in the plane.
Marc:And I got the seat right next to him, which I will say was one of the coolest things.
Marc:100%.
Marc:Because like, it's like a window in front of me, a window to the side of me and the pilot to the other side of me.
Marc:So like you could kind of squint and be like, oh, I'm flying.
Marc:Like I'm just Superman right now.
Marc:I'm flying in the air.
Marc:And I just sat there like, you know, Dawn was in, in the back and she was, you know, I wouldn't say she was freaked out, but she did when we land, she's like, that's a pretty crazy thing.
Marc:How small that plane is.
Marc:And I was just like, I don't know, man, this guy does it every hour and a half.
Marc:Like he goes there and he flies back and then he flies back.
Marc:Like he's just a shuttle bus.
Marc:It's like, it's no different than the guy, you know, driving the mega bus here in New York.
Guest:Yeah, totally.
Guest:But hey, Brennan, Brennan, those things go down.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:we were also we were over water and i was like you know he's like that was the whole reason to take it because it was like a puddle jump right you're going for we're going from puerto rico to another island and it's like okay so like this thing is barely moving like unless we nosedive like pretty sure we could land in the water i don't know you make all these things up it's like
Marc:I always go back to that Jerry Seinfeld joke.
Marc:I think he told it on Saturday Night Live.
Marc:I think it was part of one of his monologues that he was like, he's like, when you get in a cab in New York, that pane of plexiglass does so much for your brain to make you think you're safe.
Marc:Like you're just watching.
Marc:Like a guy could be up on two wheels and you're like, whoa, that looked dangerous.
Yeah.
Guest:So true.
Guest:I got my seatbelt.
Guest:I'm okay.
Guest:I'll survive this.
Guest:Well, so yeah, I enjoyed Mark's monologue on the episodes.
Guest:I also enjoyed the outtakes.
Guest:I'm glad you gave me a spoiler warning.
Guest:God, I have a really Staten Island accent today.
Guest:But I enjoyed your spoiler warning for the...
Guest:The Nest.
Guest:Yes, The Nest.
Guest:I plan to watch that.
Guest:I fast forward two minutes and I didn't catch any of it.
Marc:There we go.
Marc:I figured it was easy enough.
Marc:I could just say it and two minutes was quick.
Marc:It didn't affect anything.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And just to go back to Severance, I'm bummed that Mark is bummed about television, about Severance and about White Lotus.
Guest:He's like, okay, I'm done.
Guest:I get it.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I'll be honest with you.
Guest:Like, you know, I feel like you have the same sort of mentality about television where it's like, okay, I get the gist of it.
Guest:Like, this is fine.
Guest:But like, for me, whenever I hear people talk about like television, being upset about television, I feel like it's like I'm on the bus with them and they're complaining about the bus ride.
Guest:It's like, oh, all these, oh, this bus is so long.
Guest:Why are we stopping so many times?
Guest:Can't we just go?
Guest:And it's just like, dude, you're on the bus, you know?
Marc:Right.
Marc:Oh, I fully agree.
Marc:Which, but that's why my attitude is like, I think TV is generally not for me.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Like I don't use it the way most people use it.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Like, and, and because of that, it requires a time investment for me.
Marc:And, and, and I just, you know, it needs to be at a premium.
Marc:And I think we're just fucking spoiled people in our cohort, particularly because we just came of age with some of the greatest television ever.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:It was a competitive advantage at the time when we were like becoming adults and watching TV for TV networks to have the best television.
Marc:And like we just had these weird geniuses who became showrunners of the show and they like this...
Marc:mega corporations gave them money to film the great American novel over six seasons, you know?
Marc:And that, it was just like, that's not going to happen again.
Marc:Like you're going to get sporadic things that come on and are great.
Marc:But in general, this new model is not that.
Marc:So we, we just, we got lucky that,
Marc:and spoiled in a lot of ways.
Marc:And I just think, you know, to me, I don't use television as a, you know, a come down or like a nightly routine thing.
Marc:And that's not a slight on people who do.
Marc:That's like absolutely great thing for people to do.
Marc:And that's just my routine, you know?
Marc:So I think with Mark, it's more like...
Marc:He has to watch these things a lot of times, you know, for work, he's watching shows or movies or whatever.
Marc:And then when he's like watching the things for leisure, he's like, oh man, I want to just get done with this.
Marc:Like I did with my work stuff, you know, like, like everything seems like it should be on the same pace.
Marc:Like, shouldn't I be wrapping this up now so I could talk to this guy, you know?
Marc:And it's like, no, no, this is a show.
Marc:You're watching a show.
Marc:It goes on every once a week.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You got, yeah.
Guest:You have to switch gears.
Guest:You have to like, okay, that, that was work, you know, Mark.
Guest:And now it's like leisure Mark where you're just like unwinding and just enjoying it.
Guest:And you know what show I started watching?
Guest:Adolescence on Netflix.
Guest:I think you would dig it because A, it's a limited series.
Guest:There's only four episodes and I don't know how they do it.
Guest:But each episode is a one-er.
Marc:Yeah, I've heard all about this.
Marc:And it's the guy, Stephen Graham, that guy who is in Boardwalk Empire and The Irishman.
Marc:I don't know if he's in it.
Marc:I just know it's his show.
Marc:Okay.
Guest:It's amazing.
Guest:It is, I mean, the subject matter is horrific, but it is technically captivating.
Guest:It's like the opposite of all these shows where you can just be on your phone and like, you know, also watching.
Guest:You're just like, the suspense or the tension builds because there's no edits anywhere.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And like, I'm trying to find the edits, like, or I'm trying to find like a cheat.
Guest:I can't find a cheat anywhere.
Guest:Like, you know, a frame where there's no one in the scene, like there's no cheats.
Guest:So I'm, I think you dig it.
Guest:And, uh, I don't normally ever wish that your show had video, but I do wish there was a camera person with Mark when he was taking down the stuff at the garage and like talking about all this stuff and like the documents, like the secret service documents that he was talking about, uh,
Guest:Right.
Marc:Well, we did have someone there that documented it and it's in the New York times.
Marc:So I can put the link to that in the episode description, but yeah, we, uh, well, Mark had someone there who took pictures just for us, but there was a New York times photojournalist there who, who documented it.
Marc:That's like, it was a thing in the art section of the times famous garage closes.
Marc:So yeah, I'll put, I'll put that, uh, put that into the description.
Marc:That was, I enjoyed putting that together back when we did that in that episode.
Guest:That's excellent.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I really enjoyed the Modi episode on Thursday.
Guest:There's a WTF Studios in New York.
Guest:How'd you guys not, like, copyright that?
Guest:Like, there's a whole studio.
Marc:Well, we can't copyright WTF.
Marc:Like, it was already a thing when we made the show.
Marc:I mean, no one can use WTF with Mark Maron, but...
Marc:You know, it would be like, it would be like if you, if the name of our show was like, okay, with, with Mark, you know, like you can't copyright.
Marc:Okay.
Guest:So, so you're telling me I can have a podcast that's WTF without Mark Maron?
Marc:No, you can't use his name or likeness.
Guest:I can switch the C to a K maybe.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:You could, you could probably fuck around with it somehow, but no one has done that in 16 years.
Marc:But lots of people have used WTF for things and there's no, there's no, I mean, like I, I did say to Mark when we, when he came up with the name, it was his idea was the name.
Marc:And I said to him, that's not something you're going to be able to copyright.
Marc:And so you have to make sure that we always refer to it as WTF with Mark Maron.
Marc:And that's what we've done since the get from the get go.
Marc:It's like, it's always like, Hey, yeah, I do the show WTF with Mark Maron.
Marc:Like we, I never call it the WTF podcast, which sometimes I hear people saying that, but like, I never do that.
Marc:Cause it's like, that could be anything.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Someone else might have that.
Marc:Or at least back in the day, that was my thought.
Marc:My thought was like, you could have, there could be people that have the WTF podcast, WTF show, you know, things like that.
Marc:We just have to, eventually I thought erroneously,
Marc:That it would just become, it would just, the WTF would go away and it would just be called Mark Maron, right?
Marc:It would just be like Mark Maron show, Mark Maron podcast, whatever.
Marc:Because I thought that's where the value was.
Marc:And weirdly, it's like, it's like WTF is like...
Marc:AT&T, right?
Marc:It's like this old thing that barely means anything anymore.
Marc:If it meant something, it was attached at a different time within a different idiom.
Marc:But like now it's just like, okay, that's part of the name.
Marc:It's part of the show.
Marc:You just leave it.
Marc:Leave it alone.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And, you know, when people refer to the show, they're like, oh, well, I heard of Mark Maron's, you know, podcast.
Marc:That's right.
Guest:So it's like, yeah, it's usually just his name.
Marc:I see more often than not people say, I was listening to Maron.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And also wait, so what were some of the other like names that you kind of toyed around with?
Marc:There were none.
Marc:There were none whatsoever.
Marc:Like I, I think if I remember right, there were like Mark like tossed some ones out that I couldn't even tell you what they were that I just probably like pocket vetoed them.
Marc:Cause I was like, that's not going to work.
Marc:But he was like, what do you think about WTF?
Marc:And my thought at the time to say like, yeah, go with that was like, yeah,
Marc:It was short.
Marc:You could fit it on most things.
Marc:Like I was mindful of the size of it in a thumbnail.
Marc:Like if you looked at a thing and you just saw the thing there, like, okay, it should be short.
Marc:And, and it felt like of Mark, like there was a fuck in it.
Marc:So good.
Marc:Like he, that's his edginess, whatever.
Marc:So like, I was good with it when he said it.
Marc:And I can tell you for sure, there was no discussion about other things.
Marc:options like we were not like debating should it be this should it be that there was a period of time when we had the art made up for it that someone did the art for it and called it the wtf show and we were like nah like i think just wtf is clear it was like uh timberlake like lose the the
Guest:Totally.
Guest:And the Facebook.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I gotcha.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:It's kind of, man, it must've been so cool.
Guest:And like, I kind of left you and Mark alone while you guys were doing this, but like, it must've been so cool for you guys to just like create this thing whole cloth.
Guest:Like there's no template, there's no roadmap.
Guest:It's just like you and Mark, like figuring out how to do this.
Marc:It was absolutely the time in my life where I felt like a mad scientist at that.
Marc:Like that was really what it felt like.
Marc:Like it was because, and I've talked about this a million times, uh, that we had no expectations on it.
Marc:Right.
Marc:So that just made it easy to be like, just try whatever the fuck we want to do.
Marc:Do this, do that.
Marc:Try this good.
Marc:Call that person up.
Marc:See if they'll come over, do this, go, you know, go over here.
Marc:And like, it just felt like every day that you were like, Oh, we're,
Marc:gonna you know we're just gonna try we're just gonna fuck around till till we're told we can anymore right right it's like the undiscovered country you just do whatever you want it's like no one's no one's listening you know watching or you know like overseeing you it's kind of so freeing i mean i i related to that with what modi was talking about with the zoom uh comedy shows right that like he was like
Marc:I could do this.
Marc:And he was doing it.
Marc:And then it's just like, if you build it, they will come.
Marc:Like all of a sudden these people are showing up to this thing and now he can do his touring on it on the basis of people knowing him from that.
Marc:And like, that's not a standard story, right?
Marc:Like, like most people didn't do that.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Like even people who wound up doing the zoom shows during the pandemic, it's not like they massively grew their draw on the basis of it, but like he tapped in to a particular audience that really wanted it and needed it.
Marc:And he did it.
Marc:He did it.
Marc:And he, and like, he said a thing, like it was, it was, you know, stood out to me that he was like, so do these, you know, I saw people suggesting do these zoom shows.
Marc:He goes, uh,
Marc:I could do a zoom show.
Marc:Like it was that confidence about like, like I think he said it based on watching that Scorsese interviewing Fran Leibovitz over zoom or whatever.
Marc:And he was just like, he's like, Oh, I can do this.
Marc:Like, and yeah,
Marc:that was the same thing of me and Mark setting up the podcast.
Marc:It's like, I'd been listening to podcasts.
Marc:And when Mark was like, do you think we could do a podcast?
Marc:I was like, yes.
Marc:Like on the basis of what we already do, that's absolutely what we should be doing.
Marc:So like, I've totally related to that.
Marc:And I think his success that he has is,
Marc:And we could sell out buildings on the basis of the draw that he created through these Zoom shows is a specific type of entertainment ingenuity.
Marc:Like you just have to kind of manage yourself along with whatever medium you're working in.
Guest:Kind of funny that in the outtakes, Mark was like trying to figure out who Betty, you know, Betty Page's name.
Guest:And like, I love that.
Guest:He's like, well, you know, his guest was like, well, you know what?
Guest:You don't have a guy that can just be like, you know, oh, it's this person.
Guest:Yeah, right.
Guest:That would normally be you.
Guest:You would be on the other side of the glass.
Marc:Was that the same clip?
Marc:Maybe I'm confusing two things, but there was some clip where he was like, see, this is now when I think I should have a guy.
Guest:I think it was a different clip.
Marc:I do, yeah.
Marc:I don't think it was that one with Chris Fleming.
Marc:It was something else where he was like, it might have been with Nick Thune, but he was like, yeah, this is where I should just have a guy back there.
Marc:Hey, can you look that up for me?
Yes.
Marc:Well, as it's basically, everyone knows that we're doing this.
Marc:This is the Friday show, but we're recording this on a Thursday.
Marc:And Thursdays are usually- Not just any Thursday.
Marc:That's the thing.
Marc:Usually Thursday is just one day in the week.
Marc:But this week, Thursday is opening day of the Major League Baseball season, which is a time that is very important to not just me and Chris, but millions of people.
Marc:And frankly, I think it is cruel-
Marc:that we all just have to go about our days and go to work and, uh, you know, pretend like there's not a full slate of baseball games going on throughout the day in the sunlight hours, mind you.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Um, it is something that absolutely we would not be original in saying this, but I think it absolutely should be a national holiday.
Marc:And I think that's like, first of all, as I said before, we,
Marc:people work too much and we should have way more holidays than we do.
Marc:Like other countries have lots more.
Marc:So let's get that out of the way first.
Marc:Second of all, you know, having opening day as a national holiday, it like benefits everyone, right?
Marc:Because it's like, you could be a non fan and you're just like, great.
Marc:I deserve a day off to do nothing.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Like, you know, imagine like just a, you know, you, you never saw a minute of baseball in your life and you get this free day off.
Marc:That's awesome.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:But also it's like, this is, uh, you know, one of the few things that's like a true, like kind of, um, American invention.
Marc:I get it that it comes from cricket, but it's still like, it's, it's a part of America, right?
Marc:The invention of baseball, the growth of it, uh, it becoming a huge spectator sport and a now, you know, gazillion dollar business.
Marc:Like, um,
Marc:we should celebrate those things and like have it as a moment where you can like put everyone on the same beat, you know, like, Hey, what are we doing today?
Marc:Well, it's a day off because of baseball, an American sport, you know, like that's great.
Marc:Like I, I think that's important.
Marc:And so it got me thinking we should have more of these.
Marc:We should absolutely have more holidays, but there should be like holidays all the time for things that are not necessarily like once a year things, annual things.
Marc:There should be like holidays that float or happen only if a particular condition is met.
Marc:I think we should just have way more holidays.
Marc:And I have a bunch, but I wanted, Chris, you to give your input on this as well.
Marc:So I told you, I said...
Marc:You let me know if you think there are any other holidays that we should have in America.
Marc:And other countries that are listening to this, feel free to adopt.
Marc:Although I think most of you have a leg up on us.
Marc:We do not have enough holidays.
Guest:Yeah, they have like Boxing Day and all kinds of stuff across the world that I'm very jealous of.
Guest:And can I just say, Opening Day.
Guest:It's better than the Super Bowl, okay?
Guest:Oh, without question.
Guest:But, like, it's not celebrated that way because every team is in opening day, you know?
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Like, the Super Bowl only has two fan bases.
Marc:And it's on a Sunday.
Marc:It's already the weekend.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And like, look, opening day is so gosh darn awesome.
Guest:But it got me thinking that, you know, what should really be a holiday is the Monday after the Super Bowl.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:And that's because usually when you're at the Super Bowl, it's first of all, it happens at night at like six o'clock Eastern.
Guest:And
Guest:You know, people drink.
Guest:They have a good time.
Guest:They're out.
Guest:They're with friends.
Guest:Why don't you just give them the Monday off to just do nothing and just enjoy their day, you know?
Guest:So that was my first idea for a made-up holiday.
Guest:How about you?
Marc:Well, see, I thought this would come up because I wrote down definitely not the day after the Super Bowl.
Guest:Well, is that because you don't like football?
Guest:No.
Marc:Because one of the great things that has occurred in my lifetime is I've worked in office jobs and that.
Marc:There are two great things.
Marc:One is if your team that you're rooting for...
Marc:wins the Superbowl, you get to go to work the next day and, and be the fucking king on earth.
Marc:Like you get to rub it in everyone's face.
Marc:You get to gloat.
Marc:But especially now that I don't really follow football anymore, there's, there are a few things that top the sad drudgery into work of the losing team's fans that,
Marc:like you don't want to rob that oh yeah no no i don't want to lose that at all like especially if it's like you know a shitty team like it's like oh yeah you guys deserve this the cowboys fans i love their sad faces i'll never forget when the giants beat the uh the patriots yep i had a bet with rachel maddow
Guest:That she had to wear the Giants Super Bowl champion shirt and a newspaper.
Guest:And I did bumper music that had clips from the game.
Guest:And I did it every single break.
Guest:To the point that she had to be like, hey, man, can we knock it off with this?
Guest:We need to do news.
Guest:And it's like, all right, welcome back to the Rachel Maddow show after the Super Bowl highlights again.
Guest:So three people dead and two injured.
Marc:See, look what you're trying to deprive yourself of.
Marc:Your past self would not have had that wonderful moment if you had a day off there.
Guest:That's true.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:All right.
Guest:So that's my idea.
Guest:And great rebuttal.
Guest:What's one of yours?
Marc:All right.
Marc:This one I feel very strongly about.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:And it's one that involves, it involves the whole populace.
Marc:Everyone can get involved in this.
Guest:Oh, so it doesn't have to do with religion, doesn't have to do with race?
Marc:No, it will not be unanimously the same holiday.
Marc:And that's because I think there should be a holiday on the first day of unseasonably nice weather.
Yeah.
Marc:Like, do you know how much that sucks when you're like coming out of the winter and then there's that day like in the middle of March where all of a sudden it's like 69, 70 degrees and like you didn't expect it.
Marc:And it's like, I got to be inside all fucking day.
Marc:Are you kidding me?
Marc:like there should be a trigger like we should have a law that when that happens and and it should be different for wherever you live decided upon by your state or municipality and people could run for office on that like i will make the day off be this day or whatever you know like and it's like because you some people live and already live in like warm weather spots and whatever figure out the bet what's the best exact best weather
Marc:For where you live.
Marc:And when it hits that, you know, it doesn't matter what you're doing at work.
Marc:Like trigger goes off.
Marc:It's a holiday.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Like it's like grown up snow day, but the reverse.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So that's what I had.
Guest:I had like a summer holiday, a day to just barbecue, be with friends, family, whatever it is.
Guest:And yeah, so that was my idea as well.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Just a day to enjoy the weather and the get out of the grind of every day.
Marc:Yeah, well, there's no holidays in August.
Marc:There should absolutely be a summer day.
Marc:Like, just call it that.
Marc:Hey, it's summer day.
Marc:You're off work.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:By the way, every month should have a day off.
Marc:I know.
Marc:What is with those bullshit months with no days off?
Guest:It's intolerable.
Guest:It's honestly just the actual worst.
Guest:And it just makes it go on forever.
Guest:That's why, like, I think there is even a day in January where we get off.
Guest:But man, it just feels intolerable because where we are, it's just like the same bullshit every day.
Guest:And it's like January 67th somehow, you know?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah, I think it's March has no holiday and August have no holiday.
Marc:So it's like, absolutely, there should be holidays there.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:My other thought, and I think you'll get on board with this right away.
Marc:Solar eclipse.
Marc:Oh, hell yeah.
Marc:If there's ever a solar eclipse, and which we know there are well in advance, day off.
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Guest:Just go out, even if you can't see all of it, get those glasses.
Marc:Even if you're not in the path, you get the day off.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:Because then if you want to travel, if you want to just use that day to...
Marc:It's like the non-baseball fans.
Marc:You get a day off because other people are getting this benefit.
Guest:Yeah, I love that.
Guest:I love that so much.
Guest:Here's one from Euphoria.
Guest:Anniversary holiday.
Guest:Every person gets one where you get to just do a fun activity that you did on your first day.
Marc:Oh, it's like a card.
Marc:You drop a card.
Marc:You're like, this is my holiday.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah, exactly.
Guest:It's like, oh, you get a sick day.
Guest:It's like, no, this is my anniversary holiday.
Guest:So this is what I bring into the office.
Guest:I think everyone should have an anniversary holiday.
Marc:That's great.
Marc:I'm into that.
Marc:I have this one here.
Marc:This, I think, works for my proposals because I'm not a fan of this.
Marc:It's not like I might do this for me, but I feel like everyone could benefit from it.
Guest:What's that?
Marc:If George R.R.
Marc:Martin finishes Game of Thrones, everyone gets the day off.
Marc:The fans get to go buy the book.
Marc:You get to spend the whole day.
Marc:Remember when the Harry Potter books would come out and there'd be lines around the block and everything?
Marc:We should manufacture that for a holiday.
Marc:If this guy finishes the book, then it puts pressure on him too.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Right.
Marc:Finish the books so that everybody gets a day off.
Marc:And again, going back to baseball, it's like a unity thing.
Marc:It's a day for everyone to be like, hey, we get to celebrate a truly American thing.
Marc:You know, American written word.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Maybe turn it into library day as well or whatever.
Marc:Go buy a book day, you know.
Marc:And that's the thing that triggers it is if this guy finishes the book, I think you should get a holiday for that.
Marc:Similar to celebrating the arts.
Marc:I was really proud of myself with this one.
Marc:And I think we need to lobby that it happens.
Marc:What's that?
Marc:Best time for it is probably like in the middle of May.
Marc:I could be convinced June, but there should be a Friday in the late spring, early summer.
Marc:That is movie day.
Marc:And everyone gets off of work and every studio is incentivized to release their best thing.
Guest:That'd be great.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And, and the idea is go watch movies on this day.
Guest:Make it August.
Guest:There's nothing in August.
Marc:I guess, but the problem with that is, well, you know, yeah, I guess a hot weather you go into an air conditioning baby.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:The problem with that is everybody like front loads their, their, uh, uh, release slate.
Marc:Right.
Guest:I see what you're saying.
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marc:But maybe this helps spread it out.
Marc:I think the thing is that you typically don't do it because people take their vacations in August.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:OK.
Guest:Now, look, I have one.
Guest:It'll be controversial.
Guest:And like you might you might edit this out.
Marc:the day that donald trump dies why would i edit that out that's literally the next thing on my list no no this is not controversial this works for everyone because if you love the guy you're like sad you could go mourn and if you're like us you fucking it would be i will have the greatest part we'll get blackout drunk yeah i i will i will try ketamine and like go to a rave like
Guest:Like, I don't know.
Guest:I was telling Erin this and we were just fantasizing about that day and like what we would do.
Guest:I would blow so much money on just celebrating when that happens.
Guest:Like, it's going to be a joyous time and my God, it better be like, you know, in the next 20 years.
Yeah.
Marc:Yeah, I used to have the same wish for Dick Cheney, too.
Marc:I thought the day Dick Cheney dies, it should be a holiday.
Marc:And so now that is just transferred on to Trump.
Marc:So like I totally have that is perfectly fine.
Marc:And my mom would enjoy that day.
Marc:Exactly.
Marc:Right.
Guest:Yeah, exactly.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah, for sure.
Marc:I think related to that, and this is a little more of a like a true one.
Marc:It's like it's a fucking voter suppression crime that we don't have election day off.
Guest:One hundred percent.
Guest:How is this?
Guest:How are we not getting this day off?
Marc:Right.
Marc:I mean, it's purposeful.
Marc:They don't they want to make it harder for people to vote.
Marc:But but I also think so.
Marc:This is where I would flip the day after Super Bowl thing.
Marc:people should get the day after the general or midterm elections.
Marc:And it's not because of celebrating or whatnot, but it's like, if you want to be an engaged populist, you got to stay up late and watch all the shit, right?
Marc:Like, so like you expect people by the time they call these things and you're watching the speeches, it's two, three in the morning now.
Marc:Like you expect people to go to work the next day or what they have to do is they have to bail out early and then they don't engage in the civic process that they just voted for.
Marc:Right.
Marc:So like you should have the next day off.
Marc:Absolutely.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Well, I mean, look, in regards to that, there's all kinds of voting stuff that like you should be able to tabulate, you know, and count votes early and everything so that it doesn't happen at three o'clock in the morning.
Guest:But yeah.
Marc:No.
Marc:And we know why they're fucking, you know, they want to make it harder to vote.
Marc:That's absolutely true.
Marc:Exactly.
Marc:But yeah.
Marc:That's a great one.
Marc:That was my last one, too.
Marc:Do you have any others?
Guest:I have a day.
Guest:I'm pretty sure.
Guest:I didn't do a lot of research on it, but I know that there is Pride Month, but I think there should be a Pride Day where there's a bunch of parades.
Guest:There are movies that are celebrating gay culture.
Guest:I think that should be a day.
Marc:I think I'll go you even one further.
Marc:Anything that has been designated as a month...
Marc:Fuck that.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Make a day off.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:Like the month thing is cheating.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Right.
Marc:That they're like, oh, it's just a month.
Marc:We'll just have it vaporously happening around us for the month.
Guest:We'll change our logos for this month.
Marc:Exactly.
Marc:No, no, no, no.
Marc:Put your money where your mouth is.
Marc:Get a day off for that thing that you're celebrating for that month.
Guest:That's great.
Guest:So wait, so there's Black History Month.
Guest:There's.
Marc:Oh, there's Women's Month.
Marc:That's right.
Marc:You know, it's like, you know, there's there's all these things that I think are done to like it's almost tokenism.
Marc:Like they it feels it feels like they're placating this group.
Marc:And it's like, hey, how about we do it for real?
Marc:Right.
Marc:Get a day off.
Marc:Right.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I love that.
Guest:I love that.
Marc:Well, if you have any days off out there that you want to suggest, and really it can be anything because, you know, we we're happy to go with the fantastical here.
Marc:Send us your comments.
Marc:There's a link in the episode description.
Marc:Just click on that.
Marc:Tell us what you want us to know.
Marc:Some people wrote in about things we've been talking about in the past couple of weeks.
Marc:This one came in from an unnamed person and I wanted to address it.
Marc:He said, I challenge you guys to rewatch Casino Royale because that parkour sequence is fucking amazing.
Marc:And that film is the best first entry of any Bond actor and was the best Bond film since from Russia with love.
Marc:OK, first of all, this goes on for a second.
Marc:But I do want to say.
Marc:That's absolutely true.
Marc:And the parkour sequence does rule like there's no debate of that.
Marc:It's still very 2006.
Marc:Like, by the way, so are so many James Bond things like James Bond is like of his time.
Marc:Whenever you make the movie, it's why they could make Austin Powers because it was like so indelibly the 60s, you know?
Marc:So, like, I think we're both right.
Marc:Whoever is writing this in and us, like, yes, the parkour sequence is awesome.
Marc:And yes, like, it's still very dated right now.
Marc:I would say the Texas Hold'em is more dated than the parkour.
Marc:But this person goes on and says...
Marc:It blows away all the Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan films.
Marc:And the only Craig entry that comes close is Skyfall, which probably surpasses it.
Marc:But Casino Royale more than holds up.
Marc:And it's amazing.
Marc:So I just wanted to add.
Marc:When No Time to Die came out, I rewatched all the Daniel Craig, James Bond movies and my biggest takeaway.
Marc:And I will say I had this same feeling when I saw them the first time, like Casino Royale was awesome.
Marc:Like to come out in the, you know, the middle of a dead time for James Bond.
Marc:And then here's this guy, who is this Daniel Craig?
Marc:He's in the road to perdition.
Marc:Like, why is he James Bond?
Marc:And like, it's, it's amazing.
Marc:It was great.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And he's like a different type of James Bond.
Marc:It just had a different edge to it.
Marc:All of that was great.
Marc:Skyfall seemed like an epic when it came out.
Marc:It's just people adequately hyped up the Daniel Craig stuff.
Marc:When I watched it all again, and this was, you know, what, two, three years ago when that No Time to Die came out?
Marc:I longed for the days of sillier, goofier James Bond.
Marc:Like watching all the Daniel Craig ones in a row, it's way heavy and dour and like meaningful.
Marc:Like there's nothing like frivolous about them.
Marc:They feel like meaningful movies, but like...
Marc:You know what one I wound up walking away with, like, really enjoying?
Marc:Quantum of Solace.
Marc:Like, on the rewatch.
Marc:Because I was like, this kind of feels most James Bond-y to me.
Marc:Like, there's... The stakes are kind of goofy.
Marc:There's a weird criminal conspiracy shadowy organization.
Marc:There's crazy motorcycle stunts.
Marc:Like...
Marc:You can't make sense of it.
Marc:And that's fine.
Marc:Like the confusing nature of things is like it had like all the people slotted into the roles where they're supposed to be like good woman, bad woman, you know, bad girl who turns good.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Like it was just it was very James Bond and people didn't like it when it came out because I feel like it's.
Marc:off the path of those other Daniel Craig ones, which are feel really weighty and, and important.
Marc:Uh, and like, I don't know.
Marc:I just started to like, feel like now at this point, especially after the no time to die, I got like the sillier James Bond.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:I mean, which one is the home alone?
Guest:James Bond.
Guest:Is that skyfall?
Marc:yes at the end yeah see that that to me i'm like hey i'm in it all right so here's here's my big problem with the home alone section it's not a problem like it's good skyfall is great great movie but it's so clear so he shows up at his old residence which is that's what skyfall is right is not the name of it yeah that's the name of his lodge
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And it's being tended to by the, you know, the keeper of Skyfall is an old man and he's played by Albert Finney.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:That obviously was supposed to be Sean Connery.
Marc:Oh.
Guest:and i can't get that out of my head when i watch that i'm like god damn it that would have been so fucking good oh man like the rock uh sean connery showing up that would have been all time yeah yeah that's too bad but i still love that i i think that movie's great with albert finney and judy dench like shooting nail guns at people and stuff it's awesome yeah
Marc:Uh, Jason also wrote in and mentioned something I wanted to address.
Marc:He said, um, that, uh, he was talking about, you know, relating to, uh, showing his, his son, uh, PG 13 movies that are from when he was younger.
Marc:And now he's showing his, his, his son, those things.
Marc:He says, I showed him crocodile Dundee because I remembered it being really funny and mostly harmless.
Marc:There was one scene of Linda Kozlowski in a G string type bathing suit that I remembered, but which turned out to be much tamer than I thought, but
Marc:But then we got to a bar scene with a trans woman, and I totally forgot about it and had to do some explaining.
Marc:Paul Hogan grabbed her by the genitals, and then I forgot that he grabbed an old lady the same way a few scenes later.
Marc:That did not age well.
Marc:My son liked the movie otherwise, though.
Marc:I will say, this I have come up with time and again, and it happens in places you would not think of, but like...
Marc:Man, gender politics and and social norms and that they they it was not long ago when they were really shitty.
Marc:And it like the movie I bring that I brought this up before the movie that I thought was going to be totally innocuous and like my son would love it was the movie Clue.
Marc:And we couldn't show it to him because it was like I watched it ahead of time.
Marc:And I'm like, he was like.
Marc:of an age where he could have watched i think the movie's rated pg it's not even a pg-13 and it was just so shitty 80s style sitcom stuff of like men treating women like you know shit and gender roles and like it just like you know a lot of jokes about being in the kitchen and stuff and i was like
Marc:I don't want to be explaining this stuff.
Marc:Even putting caveats on it.
Marc:It didn't seem like it worked.
Marc:I mean, he could surely watch it now and would get that it's from a different time.
Marc:Right.
Marc:But like, then I was encountering when I was thinking about showing these things, like, why?
Marc:Like, just because it was out when I was a kid, like that doesn't make it work.
Guest:good you know right it's just like my nostalgia shouldn't override like the appropriateness of it yeah and the juice isn't worth the squeeze at that point because like you know you at that age you know you don't want him like latching on to that and then like regurgitating that you know sort of totally there's enough bullshit out there on youtube that he's gonna find
Guest:What's that website that you use to, like, check movies?
Marc:Oh, Common Sense Media.
Marc:That's a great website.
Marc:Yeah, I advocate that for anyone wanting to look at what the content is of a film.
Marc:You know, and see if it's appropriate or not.
Marc:One last thing that somebody wrote in here, and this was from Jim, and he said, Michelle Obama spoke to me and Chris Lopresto.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Chris, your reflections of that episode could have come straight from my mouth.
Marc:I also found that extra episode so enlightening on the subject of male versus female communication.
Marc:I love that Michelle and Isa see their approach to friendship and communication as the right way.
Marc:And similarly, Craig can't understand the overly complex approach to friendship and communication and all the issues that it brings along with it.
Marc:And I
Marc:You know, it's funny because we've talked about it since that episode aired and I've had reactions from other people have wrote to me be like that episode pissed me off.
Marc:I didn't you know, like I didn't think that that's the way to conceive a friendship like that.
Marc:It seems regressive.
Marc:And like I was surprised that this Michelle Obama show got as much reaction as it did.
Marc:And the hilarious thing was nobody wrote in to me to say, why did you air that?
Marc:That was funny.
Marc:It was all like actual reaction.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:So I think that's very interesting.
Guest:That's great.
Guest:I hope you can pass that along to Michelle Obama and her brother.
Marc:Yeah, I'm sure they'll take the feedback well.
Guest:But that's great.
Guest:I'm glad people are responding to that.
Guest:That's all.
Marc:Well, anything that you all out there want to respond to, you can send us some comments, send your questions, send your topics.
Marc:The link is there for you in the episode description.
Marc:And Chris is flying off out of the state.
Marc:He will be in Houston, Texas.
Marc:We'll get his report from there.
Marc:And next week on WTF, we had mentioned this briefly in one of the bonus episodes, but a great interview with Delroy Lindo coming up on Monday.
Marc:Awesome.
Marc:Really great talking to him.
Marc:Mark also talked to the director, Ryan Coogler, of the movie Sinners, which is what Delroy Lindo is in.
Marc:And this one, I love that it happened.
Marc:Mark talked to Robocop.
Marc:no way weller yeah stopped by and apparently they became uh fast friends peter weller is going to see mark at dynasty typewriter uh in one of the upcoming shows i just love that robocop's gonna be in the audience and uh and so that is coming up in a future episode as well so you got some stuff to look forward to on the wtf front i'm sorry mark just making friends with a bunch of 80s like action heroes and yeah don johnson yeah
Guest:Terminator 2 himself?
Guest:Yeah, exactly.
Marc:Got to get them all in a room together.
Marc:Oh, my God.
Marc:That would be amazing.
Guest:Amazing.
Marc:Now you say typewriter, everyone.
Marc:Go.
Marc:That's our next holiday.
Marc:All right.
Marc:Well, until then, I am Brendan, and that is Chris.
Marc:Peace.