BONUS The Friday Show - I Saw the Sein
Guest:And that's why Mark's in the movie as like a thank you for the discovery of the book.
Guest:So like, awesome.
Guest:I absolutely feel like we can, we can take some responsibility for that movie existing.
Guest:Hopefully it's good.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:And then I could be like, yeah, that movie.
Guest:We did it.
Marc:Hey, Chris.
Marc:Brendan, it took 1,652 episodes, but we finally know who Mark's dinosaur guys are.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:What were you?
Guest:What kind of dinosaur guy were you?
Guest:I was a steglosaurus guy.
Marc:Oh, no, triceratops for me, too, just like Mark.
Marc:Of course.
Marc:I feel like that's pretty common.
Guest:I didn't realize until he said it that it's actually probably a pretty good barometer of things.
Marc:Yeah, 100%, right?
Guest:Everybody has it.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Everybody knows maybe six dinosaurs.
Guest:Then there was always the kid who knew all the dinosaurs, right?
Guest:Oh, yeah.
Guest:But like, I think I knew like six, seven, and you pick your favorite.
Guest:It's like a zodiac sign, but like one you get to choose.
Marc:Yes, 100%.
Marc:And like, I will say before Jurassic Park, my knowledge of dinosaurs was basically Transformers and the Dinobots.
Marc:you know and those guys are just dumb dumbs i i actually watched one of those episodes recently and like they're the the uh transformers were like yeah these guys are real dumb they got real small brains just like real dinosaurs i still don't understand transformers they actually have brains they're these they're aliens or they're machines i don't know i don't get it yeah let's not let's not think about it too hard uh yeah it's uh
Marc:Which no one should have ever done.
Marc:No, but people's identities are now Transformers.
Marc:Like there are cars on the street with like Decepticon logos.
Marc:I'm like, okay, buddy, you're an adult.
Guest:It's like you do realize this was just some guy figured out like we could have a Rubik's Cube, but an action figure.
Marc:Yes, yeah, yeah.
Marc:100%.
Marc:But yeah, I also like the dinosaurs, the big ones that just eat trees.
Guest:Brontosaurus.
Guest:I don't think they're called Brontosaurus anymore, though.
Guest:That's the other thing.
Guest:I can't keep up with the names change.
Guest:They all have feathers now.
Guest:Dinosaur stuff is not what it was 40 years ago.
Guest:They have hands now.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:But yeah, I think isn't it brontosaurus?
Guest:It's like a brachiosaur.
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:I'm not even doing this.
Guest:I'm not going to get into this because I'm going to get 30 comments about actual things.
Guest:And look, I appreciate all of you and anyone who wants to write in about dinosaurs, go nuts.
Guest:But I actually don't care enough to stop my day and actually think about dinosaurs.
Guest:Dinosaurs are great.
Guest:They're awesome.
Guest:But I'm not going to spend any time on them.
Marc:But I will say, the people who are a T-Rex guy, pretty sure I know who those people are.
Guest:Oh yeah.
Guest:And you know what?
Guest:I also think that like thinking back through it, it's like most people I knew were not T-Rex guys.
Guest:Like, like they, they, you know, if I can think about other kids and going to their house or whatever, like,
Guest:you'd see that you'd see more of like the weird dinosaurs.
Guest:Like what was the, is it the allosaurus?
Guest:Is that the one that's got like the kind of armadillo casing that Mark was talking about?
Guest:I believe it is.
Guest:And again, now I'm gonna get 40 fucking comments about that.
Guest:You know, a pterodactyl is not a pterodactyl anymore.
Guest:It's a pterodon.
Marc:Well, what about, you know, the pterodactyl is a really cool one, though.
Guest:Yeah, flying dinosaur?
Guest:Are you kidding me?
Marc:It's actually kind of crazy to me that they were on this planet millions of years ago, and then they just died from a meteor.
Marc:Like, that's wild to me.
Guest:I remember the first time I ever got high on marijuana.
Guest:I remember it so clearly because the first thing out of my mouth was how dinosaurs were alive 65 million years ago and how crazy that is.
Guest:And as I was saying those words, I was very cognizant of that.
Guest:It was like the most cliche getting high experience ever.
Marc:100%.
Guest:Like it was like one step away from talking about like, you know, how the money is green and there's an eyeball on it or whatever.
Marc:Oh my God.
Marc:That's fantastic.
Marc:I'm so glad you had that experience.
Marc:A classic high experience.
Marc:That's fantastic.
Guest:It was like, I was angry at myself as was happening.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:what you got it you got it in the first take you know people people take you know like i i don't know i didn't have a good trip or whatever you got it in the first go first one out of the shoot that's great well uh not only did we get dinosaur talk uh with uh with mark and kristin um i first of all i have not seen the penguin uh have you seen the penguin yet
Guest:I watched maybe like 30 minutes of it just for this episode.
Guest:Just wanted to see what it was to see if there's stuff to talk about.
Marc:I fast forwarded a little bit because I didn't want to get spoiled.
Marc:I don't know.
Marc:They were talking some spoiler stuff and I was like, I'm going to skip ahead like 30 seconds.
Marc:So hopefully I didn't.
Marc:It didn't seem spoilery to me, but who knows?
Guest:I did not watch it.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:But it sounds good.
Marc:I am...
Marc:You know, I feel guilt for not watching it yet because I also wanted to watch that Modern Love show that she was in.
Guest:Well, Modern Love was different.
Guest:Modern Love was an anthology show.
Guest:Yeah, that she was in.
Guest:No, no, no.
Guest:But that's still available.
Guest:Oh, really?
Guest:Modern Love, I think, is a prime show.
Guest:Oh, okay.
Guest:What's the one?
Guest:The one she was in is called Made for Love.
Marc:Yeah, Made for Love.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Made for Love is a show that was on the back burner for me.
Marc:I was like, okay, I'll get around to it.
Marc:And I just never did.
Marc:And now it's just not anywhere.
Guest:Yeah, that's so crazy that that happens.
Guest:I mean, I watched season one and never went back to season two.
Guest:So I wouldn't call it.
Guest:call that a ring endorsement um it was like an interesting show it's where like actually one of those things that's like the main problem with streaming uh uh series is that they are not structured for series longevity like it's a good idea for a movie right but maybe not a series um but i watched the first season it was it was interesting she was good ray is very good in it um i i forgot that he had this character arc that
Guest:Then once I was thinking about it, I was like, oh, yeah, I never found out what happened with that.
Guest:But that's kind of the problem of these things.
Guest:But, like, I don't know, man.
Guest:You would think that there are enough people in Hollywood who have now been affected by this idea of, like, we just delete the movie or the TV show and it will never be seen again, this work.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Isn't that why there were strikes?
Guest:I mean, I know not specifically that, but like, doesn't that fall under the category of like, Hey, we should strike over that.
Guest:Like that, like, you know, like we struck and said, you got to treat us better and you got to pay the extras, better fees and, you know, not steal their identities and whatever.
Guest:And like, they got these protections and that's great.
Guest:Like this seems like one of those things that it's worth getting a protection over.
Guest:Like when I put my, when I sell you my work,
Guest:which is what you're essentially doing i sell you my labor and my ideas to make these things and you give me money and we make them you can't just disappear it off the face of the earth like that feels like a protection that should happen yeah 100 i mean and then look we're not even talking about physical media which i think everyone that's the thing it's like they won't put them on physical media
Marc:Yeah, it's like obsolete at this point that physical media is an option and it's bullshit, honestly.
Marc:And like the fact that it's not on the streaming service that it was paid for by, like that's insane to me.
Marc:Like why would a show like Westworld that was on HBO not be available anywhere?
Guest:And that's a crazy one.
Guest:It's like, that has fucking Christopher Nolan's might behind it.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like, why doesn't that guy be like, hang on, going forward, like me and Tom Cruise and like all these people who these companies strike these deals with.
Guest:Tom Cruise just struck a huge deal with Warner Brothers, right?
Guest:Like, why would they not be like, here's the thing.
Guest:You can never delete one of these things off your service again until you offer a physical media release of it.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Right.
Marc:You know, like they're big enough to do that, you know?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Like it doesn't make any sense.
Marc:And by the way, that's why Christopher Nolan, it was like, see you later, Warner Brothers.
Marc:Thanks for everything.
Marc:I'm never coming back to you.
Guest:Like you are- I mean, I think, wasn't he pissed off over the Tenet release?
Guest:Wasn't that what it was?
Marc:Yeah, it was a Tenet release and then it was available on HBO like, you know, a week later.
Guest:At the same time.
Marc:Yeah, maybe at the same time.
Marc:And then Warner Brothers tried to like woo him back by like putting out Interstellar out in IMAX.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And he was like, thank you.
Marc:And like they gave him like a $5 million check and like, hey, thanks for the money.
Marc:And yeah, I'm not coming back.
Guest:No, why would he?
Guest:Like look at how Oppenheimer got treated.
Guest:They were like, we're so happy to have you here at Universal.
Guest:Go make whatever you want.
Guest:100%.
Guest:And he made a three hour long epic about a nerd and and it won every Oscar and made, you know, a billion dollars or whatever.
Guest:And and so why would he ever go back there?
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:No, no, no, no chance.
Marc:So Kristen and Mark also talked about roller coasters.
Marc:Big, you know, little roller coaster continuation, which I enjoy.
Marc:The Tickler, which I have not been on.
Marc:Have you been on?
Marc:Oh, I've been on that.
Marc:Is it?
Guest:That's not a... My kid goes... My kid's been going on that since he's like five.
Guest:Oh, no kidding.
Guest:That is not a crazy ride.
Guest:I mean, like, it's a Wild Mouse.
Guest:Wild Mouse is very standard ride at amusement parks where it's like a kind of circular car.
Guest:And it goes on a track.
Guest:You go up the track and then the track is totally flat, flat track up top.
Guest:So this like picture a little circle disc.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Kind of.
Guest:And it rotates like a UFO.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Going on a flat track and open air.
Guest:Right.
Guest:You're not like closed in it or anything.
Guest:And then it does like zigzags.
Guest:right goes around whoop you just made a hairpin turn whoop you just made another hairpin turn and then now whoa you went down and now you go up again so it's very like compact little um roller coaster and yeah like there's some like little dips and dives so not like it's pretty tame okay
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Well, I enjoy that they like Coney Island.
Marc:I actually miss Coney Island.
Marc:It made me miss it.
Marc:And have you been there recently?
Marc:Yes.
Marc:Yeah, we went there pretty recently.
Marc:Do they still have that guy?
Marc:It's like an animatronic thing.
Marc:It's like a very animatronic thing for Coney Island.
Marc:It's like a guy who's shitting and barfing at the same time in a toilet, like in like a glass cube.
Marc:I have never seen this ever.
Marc:You saw this?
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:When you were sleeping?
Marc:I used to frequent this thing.
Marc:I mean, I wouldn't like stare at it, but it used to be on like the road I would go to the subway.
Marc:On the road?
Marc:Yeah, it's like right off the side of the road in the parking lot, like on the side of the parking lot.
Marc:An animatronic?
Marc:Yes, it's like the Disney version of Cody Island.
Marc:It's just like guys shitting and puking into a toilet.
Marc:I know this isn't an imagination that I have.
Guest:I have never seen this, ever.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:My search result is going to be... Yeah, this is not a good thing to Google.
Marc:Oh, yes.
Marc:I found... I mean, this video, the audio is horrendous, but this is a thing.
Marc:This is a thing that exists or existed.
Guest:It's called the Coney... Coney Island Man Shitting.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:What?
What?
Marc:And if you've watched the video, it's this glass container and it's this animatronic guy puking into a toilet bowl and... And then stuff's shooting out of his ass.
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Guest:You've never seen this?
Guest:I've not only never seen it, I can't even tell you where this is.
Guest:Where...
Marc:This is, it's like on the side of the, I think it's moved a couple of times, but yeah, this is a thing that was around.
Guest:Oh my God.
Guest:All I can think of now, it's like, thank God I never walked past that with my kid.
Marc:100%.
Marc:By the way, I was watching Jeopardy this week, and one of the champions, when Ken was talking to her, they were mentioning that they love roller coasters, and they just went to a great roller coaster in Germany that's based on Niklas Tesla.
Marc:And I did the YouTube of this, and it looks awesome.
Guest:Oh, yeah?
Marc:It looks like a ride you would very much enjoy.
Marc:Oh, that is cool.
Marc:And it, like, switches tracks at one point.
Marc:It's pretty cool.
Guest:Is it based on Tesla, like, in the Prestige?
Guest:Like, you go in one area and then come out another one?
Guest:Kind of.
Yeah.
Guest:there's all kinds of weird shit going on uh speaking of ken jennings he is one of the announced pairs for the upcoming season of celebrity who wants to be a millionaire oh it's it's him and matt damon oh no kidding yes okay uh
Guest:I think the joke there is that Jimmy Kimmel is the host.
Guest:So Matt Damon was like, I'm going to get the smartest guy alive.
Marc:That's great.
Guest:To be the pair.
Guest:You know who else is a pair on the show?
Guest:No, who?
Guest:Mark Maron and Sarah Silverman.
Marc:Get the fuck out.
Guest:That's I saw it was announced so we could we can mention it.
Guest:But yeah, like.
Guest:So he taped it and everything is already done.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:That's awesome.
Guest:I can't talk about any other details of it because there's NDA.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I didn't sign one, but Mark did.
Guest:So he therefore was not supposed to tell me anything.
Guest:Gotcha.
Guest:And what a great pair.
Guest:yeah yeah it seems like a lot of fun it seems like you know they did they you know did a good job putting people together i think mark was sarah's idea like she was gonna be on it she was like oh how about mark so okay yeah it's cool that uh that jimmy kimmel and sarah are still friends that's i guess yeah i mean i think they are good friends like i don't feel like there's any negative stuff there oh man i can't wait for that that comes out this summer i'm guessing
Guest:Uh, it comes out, uh, in, uh, in July and end of July, I think July 23rd or something like that.
Marc:Man, Mark is everywhere.
Marc:Do you see the, the Springsteen trailer that I did see it?
Guest:I saw him very briefly in it.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:They, I think some magazine had like the stills and it's like everyone around the board and it's like Springsteen and whatever.
Marc:And then there's Mark.
Marc:It looked like, uh, the last supper, but for Jersey rock, it looks great.
Guest:I feel like it's not grandiose of me to say I have an indirect role in that movie existing.
Marc:Oh, really?
Marc:Please do tell.
Guest:Well, the publisher sent the book, Deliver Me From Nowhere, to me.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:It was just in the list of things I get as a pitch.
Guest:And...
Guest:Usually books are very, it's very rare that I will turn a book around and have Mark, you know, be like, you should really check this out and we should have this person on as a guest.
Guest:That's rare.
Guest:And, but it happens.
Guest:And so I do tend to like, at least peruse the book and see, is this anything?
Guest:So I see it comes in.
Guest:It's Warren Zanes.
Guest:I'm like, okay.
Guest:And I started reading the book, like, and I'm, I'm hooked immediately.
Guest:I'm like, this is great.
Guest:Because what I would say to people about that book,
Guest:The book is just about the making of Nebraska, the Springsteen album.
Guest:And so it's interesting as a study of Bruce at that time in his life and as a guy who, like, was indomitable and would not back down from his vision around this...
Guest:album, which was not a commercial album.
Guest:Like it was going, it had no hits on it, nothing like that.
Guest:It was his, it was real artistic vision.
Guest:So, so that element of the book is there and that's I'm sure what the movie is.
Guest:But what I loved about the book is that it's like Apollo 13 and
Guest:And it's like this real celebration of nerds who like... The great thing about Apollo 13 is it takes this like highly technical troubleshooting and makes it entertaining, right?
Guest:And that's like the same thing with this, with this book.
Guest:It's like...
Guest:Bruce has this vision for getting this album to sound just like the tape he recorded it on.
Guest:And then it just becomes these engineers, like the guy that Mark is playing in the story being like, how the fuck do we do this?
Guest:Okay, let's work it out.
Guest:Here's the Tascam mixer we've got to use.
Guest:You learn a lot about mixers in the story.
Guest:That's great.
Guest:But anyway, so I thought the book was cool.
Guest:Just even the brief amount I was engaging with it.
Guest:And then I'm like, oh, Warren Zanes, man.
Guest:Like, he wrote Tom Petty's biography.
Guest:He's close to Tom Petty.
Guest:Mark knows his brother.
Guest:You know, the Del Fuego's was a band that Mark liked.
Guest:We already had Dan Zanes on.
Guest:Like...
Guest:this seems like a guest we should have on.
Guest:Like it was like all lining up.
Guest:So I brought it up to Mark and said, what about Warren Saints?
Guest:He was like, and he knew the Tom Petty stuff and he knew the Del Fuego's and that.
Guest:And he was like, oh yeah.
Guest:I was like, you should really look at this book, this thing he just wrote about Nebraska.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:And Mark got the book and had the same reaction I did.
Guest:He was like, this is great.
Guest:I could, he was like, I could talk to him just about this.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:But there's plenty of other stuff to talk about.
Guest:So absolutely.
Guest:Like it was one of those easy guests.
Guest:He was a perfect guest.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And he came on.
Guest:If you've listened to that, it's a great talk.
Guest:And Scott Cooper, the director, is a fan of WTF.
Guest:He said so when he was on the show.
Guest:He said so before he was on the show.
Guest:He met Mark on an airplane.
Guest:Oh, wow.
Guest:And was like, I love your show.
Guest:I listen all the time.
Guest:So like we have known that Scott Cooper, director of Black Mass, Crazy Heart,
Guest:He is a fan of the show.
Guest:And he was listening to that episode with Warren Zanes.
Guest:And he was like, I need to get the rights to make this.
Guest:No shit.
Guest:I need to make this as a movie.
Guest:Like this story is great.
Guest:He wanted to read the book and he wanted to make this as a movie.
Guest:And I'm not making that up.
Guest:he told mark that that's crazy and that's why mark's in the movie as like a thank you for the discovery of the book so like awesome i absolutely feel like we can we can take some responsibility for that movie existing hopefully it's good yes and then i could be like yeah that movie we did it
Marc:That is so fun that you can just point to that and be like, you know, it's kind of because of me.
Guest:It's one of those things that sounds totally stupid to say.
Guest:People are like, it's not because of you.
Guest:You know how these things get made?
Guest:But then I can draw the line.
Guest:I'm like, nah, pretty sure it's kind of directly happened.
Marc:That is so cool.
Marc:And by the way, I've already downloaded the Audible book of it from Audible.
Marc:So yeah, I'll be checking that out this week.
Marc:Yeah, good book.
Marc:And it goes fast.
Marc:It's a fast read.
Marc:Awesome.
Marc:And look, Brennan, I could talk to you about a lot of other things about this week, but I understand you have a lot of things that you need to kind of get to.
Guest:So yeah, we can get to that.
Guest:I know that every episode of this and the other Tuesday bonus episodes, I've been saying I don't want to be doing a eulogy for the show every week.
Guest:But I just can't get around the fact that we keep getting so much feedback.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And, you know, I know I said I will hold on to this and we will kind of deliver it at some point.
Guest:But like if I keep holding on to it, I'm going to have way too much.
Guest:So I think the best thing to do is just to kind of turn this over to the listeners, the questions you've written in, the comments you've written in.
Guest:And and we'll we'll we'll blow a lot of this out right now.
Guest:And I think we could do it in kind of celebratory way.
Guest:It doesn't have to be sad.
Guest:That being said, I did want to point out that I was at the screening of Mark's documentary over the weekend as part of the Tribeca Film Festival.
Guest:And it still blows my mind that this happens because like, you know...
Guest:I come to know that like there are some people out there who are fans enough of the show that they will know who I am.
Guest:And that's fine.
Guest:But it's very strange that people are fans of this show.
Guest:Like I still don't think of that as a thing that people are like, I love the Friday show.
Marc:So weird.
Marc:That's not a sentence that I've, you know, expect at all.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Right.
Guest:Well, I did meet one of our listeners, Avital, who has written in before.
Guest:She, if you remember, wrote in about her 11-year-old who likes Weird Al and also said the famous person that they want to meet is Mark Maron.
Guest:Did they meet Mark Maron?
Guest:No.
Guest:Mark was ushered out of there very quickly that day.
Guest:I didn't even see him until I went to a restaurant.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:an hour later to see him there but uh but yeah like it was very i was avital if you're listening this was great to meet you you i i believe she came down from pittsburgh or came over from pittsburgh just to see the film and and only after the screening did i see a comment that was sent in uh that she was asking if we uh had recommendations of places for her to eat oh
Guest:So I'm sorry that I didn't see that in time.
Guest:I hope you did eat somewhere nice.
Guest:I will say another traveler was a person, I believe, apologies if I'm getting this name wrong.
Guest:I believe he said his name was Joey.
Guest:And he came from Toronto to see the screening.
Guest:And he came up to me and introduced himself.
Guest:And he said he had been listening to the show since he was 12.
Guest:Oh, that gives you chills.
Guest:So crazy.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:That's the craziest thing.
Guest:It's like we raised kids on this show.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Like shit, man.
Marc:Like what Mark was saying about when he was talking to the woman from Hacks.
Marc:Oh, Megan Stalter.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:With Megan.
Marc:Like, yeah, he can teach comedy.
Marc:Like, I'm pretty sure he just taught this 12 year old child how to.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:I think he taught him how to do things and how to stay away from certain things.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:100%.
Marc:Wow.
Marc:That's so cool.
Guest:Yeah, so it was great meeting folks out at the out at the thing.
Guest:You know, it really is.
Guest:It's it's crazy how, you know, kind of connected people get to this stuff so much so that a bunch of people did.
Guest:I don't think I got to mention this.
Guest:bunch of people did write in to help out with um my request from a few weeks ago about the episode i couldn't find uh where there was a guest who talked about having a sibling who who uh or that her parents had a child that died before they were born and so therefore it was this kind of invisible sibling and we're trying to locate who that person was and it was may martin
Guest:Um, that was the person that we thought it might be, but it wasn't showing up in the transcript.
Guest:And the problem was we were searching for all the wrong things.
Guest:It was, she, she never used the word cancer.
Guest:She said leukemia, for instance, you know, she never said a sibling.
Guest:I think she just said something about like a older brother or a
Guest:It was a tricky one to find in the transcript, but a bunch of listeners found it for us.
Guest:So I wanted to thank everybody who put their heads together for that one.
Guest:And the person who was asking me about it was very thankful that it was found as well.
Guest:So appreciate that up and down the line for everyone.
Guest:I also got some feedback in here.
Guest:People sending in lines from movies that are not quotable quotes, but that they quote all the time anyway, based on our conversation about that.
Guest:And this person said, regarding lines from movies that might not be famous quotes that I frequently use, this is some repugnant shit from Pulp Fiction is one.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:uh also i try from once upon a time in hollywood you love that one i do say that one a lot this this person and i are simpatico on that and here's one that you say a lot chris the action is the juice oh yeah yeah from heat but this person says he does it whenever his girlfriend engages in retail therapy
Guest:Which I got to start doing that.
Guest:When Dawn goes out, she's like, I got to go shop.
Guest:Ah, yeah, the action is the joke.
Marc:That's fantastic.
Marc:I have one that I didn't mention.
Marc:And anytime someone compliments me, and it doesn't happen that often, but, you know, people, listeners have reached out to me to thank me and everything for the show.
Marc:And...
Marc:I basically always, you know, if it's a compliment to me, I usually always say, well, that's so sweet of you to say.
Marc:And that's from the Royal Tenenbaums.
Guest:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Marc:Owen Wilson's character.
Guest:Yes.
Marc:Which, by the way, is Owen going to be on WTF?
Guest:I doubt it.
Guest:He has said no many times over the years.
Guest:And I don't think anything's really changed just through the fact that he and Mark, you know, have done the show together.
Guest:Okay.
Yeah.
Guest:Someone else wrote in to say, speaking of movie lines used in daily conversation, my go to that works for almost anything is OK, then from Raising Arizona.
Guest:And I know exactly what he's talking about.
Guest:That's when when high is at the parole board.
Guest:That's a great one.
Guest:Someone else said, always say, could be raining whenever somebody says could be worse.
Guest:And that, of course, is from Young Frankenstein.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And Lorenzo had a few, but he had one that was specifically from Mark.
Guest:He said, whenever anyone says turmeric, I always have to say, make sure you get it with the black pepper in it or it won't activate.
Yeah.
Guest:So those are all great.
Guest:I'm glad that resonated with some people out there.
Guest:Now, the rest of what I have here is our questions that came in and comments about the ending of the show.
Guest:Not unlike what we did on Tuesday's episode with Mark.
Guest:Um, and so here it's kind of like, I think some of these I can kind of combine as like frequently asked questions.
Guest:And then some of them are more specific from, uh, specific individuals, but a bunch of people have been asking, will the WTF archives be available somewhere?
Guest:And can we keep our, our WTF plus subscription?
Guest:And as I mentioned, when we made the announcement, uh,
Guest:I don't know in what form it will take.
Guest:Like we are at, we, we still have to work out a deal for where this stuff will live and whether that's exactly where you have it now or a different way to have it.
Guest:But 100% the archives will be available.
Guest:And it is my intention that they are available either in a very similar way to the, to how they are now, where you can basically get most everything.
Guest:you know, without having any type of special access, there will be like ads in the, in them or whatever, but then, you know, there'll be a separate, um, subscription tier where you could get it with no ads and, and get, you know, um, all this access to back bonus catalog stuff and, and all of that.
Guest:So, so we are working on that stuff.
Guest:It's got a, you know, a lot of moving parts.
Guest:And so we'll make sure it happens, but like under no circumstances, um,
Guest:Will there be a situation where the show just goes away and you don't have access to this stuff?
Guest:Like that's paramount.
Guest:It's really my only goal in the next few months is to make sure that that's happening.
Guest:That's awesome.
Guest:This person said, as we are nearing the end, I'm a full Marin subscriber, but I hadn't subscribed to Mark's newsletter.
Guest:Will there be an archive of the newsletters?
Guest:There already is.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:If you go to WTF pod.com, the tab that says dispatches, that's just every newsletter Mark has ever sent out.
Guest:It's it.
Guest:They're in like blog form, but you can read them right there.
Guest:They are that you go.
Guest:If you just started subscribing in newsletter, go back and go make your way through goes all the way back.
Marc:And I'm so glad he's going to continue writing a newsletter of some sort.
Guest:Oh, yeah.
Marc:I think he has to.
Guest:It seems like a thing he needs to do.
Guest:This person wrote in to say to me specifically, what if Joe Rogan calls you and says, once WTF is done, I want you to come be my producer.
Guest:Name your price.
Guest:What would your response be?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I know there's an attempt here to put me in like a... Cookbeat.
Guest:Well, or like to seem self-righteous.
Guest:No price.
Guest:I would never do it.
Guest:Right?
Guest:Like, here's the thing.
Guest:Like...
Guest:that you could yes i would say i would never do that but i would also say that to literally anyone the whole point like i have a great gig right now as a producer i am ending it because i need to end it like it's it's not like it's not because like oh there's a probably a better one out there right i just name my price and i get it that's that's
Guest:That's not the situation for me.
Guest:The situation is I need to be done.
Guest:It's just like, look, I get it's very hard for people to understand that, but it's like some people do get it, by the way.
Guest:I get like some comments coming in that are like, you're making the right call, right?
Guest:So I know that I'm painting with a broad brush when I say people don't understand it, but...
Guest:i think in general i get more reaction of people being like but what what are you what are you actually going to do next and like that joe rogan thing it doesn't matter if it says joe rogan doesn't matter if it said bobby lee doesn't matter if it said terry gross anybody saying to me come be a producer i'd be like i cannot that's not what i'm doing and i will say though
Guest:if Joe Rogan came to me with all his largesse and said, name your price, I would say my price is for you and me to sit down and I can actually like, let me see if I can help you understand how to do this.
Guest:Like for what, one hour you and I have a talk and I can help you understand how to do this in a way that's not so destructive to the world.
Guest:And yet you can still be your, you know, the, the,
Guest:the king of your empire that you want to be and everyone will love you you get all the attention you need but like i think that the problem joe has is that he has never had a serious producer actually help him understand why like he legitimately thinks the idea of like no no no you just sit down if you disagree with someone and
Guest:You just sit down with them and you have a conversation.
Guest:And that's how the world should work.
Guest:That's how debate happens.
Guest:And he does not understand the idea of platforms being manipulated and used.
Guest:And he thinks he's too smart to let his platform be manipulated and used.
Guest:And the problem is he has never had whoever that guy is that he bullies and bosses around and tells to pull things up on the computer or whatever.
Guest:Mm-hmm.
Guest:That's the opposite of the relationship I've had with Mark for 16 years.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Like, so, so like, that's what I think Joe Rogan of the world is missing is just somebody to sit down and be like, hang on, you could still be you and you don't have to be like a libtard and a, you know, a, a, you know, bleeding heart or whatever, and all the things you hate about, you know, liberals, but like, you could also not be destructive to the planet.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And I don't know.
Guest:I don't know if that would sink in, but I would have that conversation with him if he, if in this magical hypothetical situation, he came to me.
Guest:How much would that cost?
Guest:I do it for free because it's like, I would consider it be a public service to the world.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I gotcha.
Guest:All right, here we go.
Guest:Ryan wrote in to say, now that the show is ending, will you give us your opinion on the Seinfeld episode?
Guest:Because I have said before, when the Seinfeld episode came up, that people say, you know, Mark was being a dick.
Guest:Jerry's a dick.
Guest:And I'm like, I have my opinion and I don't feel like saying it because I just want people to listen and enjoy their own thing.
Guest:But I'll take you up on that, Ryan.
Guest:He wants to know, he says, was Jerry being disrespectful like Mark thinks
Guest:You've watched it because it was on Zoom.
Guest:You know the truth.
Guest:And if anything needs to be shared during this cursed age of deception, it's the truth.
Guest:And Chris, what do you think?
Guest:So I don't know.
Guest:Should I go first or do you want to give yours first?
Guest:You should go first.
Guest:All right.
Guest:So I don't, first of all, I want to like, I don't think Mark's characterization was that Jerry was being disrespectful.
Guest:I think Mark's characterization was Jerry was being evasive like he normally is and sticking to his guns on this idea that comedy is only about the laugh that
Guest:There's no other goal for it.
Guest:And you can have other goals as a performer, but as a comedian, the top goal should be the laugh.
Guest:And that's why the people who get the biggest laughs are the most successful.
Guest:Like that's like overall Jerry's philosophy.
Guest:And like, he got to this point with Mark where he was like, we're not going to see eye to eye on this.
Guest:I think this, you think something else.
Guest:And I think I'm right.
Guest:And the subtext of Jerry always saying that is
Guest:is my bank account proves it, right?
Guest:Right.
Guest:Like I'm the guy who made a billion dollars doing comedy.
Guest:So my way is the right way.
Guest:Right.
Guest:It's law.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So I think my general feeling of that, also, I do not think Mark thought he was being disrespectful.
Guest:Right from the get-go, Jerry was openly concerned and offering condolences to Mark for Lynn Shelton's passing.
Guest:And that meant a lot to Mark.
Guest:I can tell you that 100%.
Guest:Um, we got off the call and Mark was like, that was a real standup thing of him to do to say that to me right away.
Guest:So like, I don't think Mark came away with that from that thinking Jerry was being a dick to him.
Guest:I think Mark, as he always thinks it comes away with is that he thinks Jerry's being false.
Hmm.
Guest:And I think the people who listen to that episode and think Jerry's right and Mark is crazy are the people who think, you know, is based on an idea that, you know, Mark is paranoid.
Guest:He sees ghosts where they don't exist.
Guest:He's jealous of people.
Guest:He really is, in this case, is just jealous of Jerry.
Guest:And, you know, therefore he can't see ghosts.
Guest:That Jerry's making a valid point about comedy and he's taking it personally, thinking Jerry's saying, you're no good at this or whatever.
Guest:I think that's a fair characterization of people who would say Jerry was like, is like in the right on this conversation.
Guest:So the way I always saw it was the exact same way I saw the Mike Birbiglia thing.
Guest:And I saw it in the exact same way that the Birbiglia thing evolved for me to the point where, as I mentioned last week, I kind of finally saw it on Mark's side.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It was like, oh yeah, this guy is concealing shit and I get why that pisses Mark off.
Guest:Hmm.
Guest:is that I always thought, in general, Mark doesn't like that Jerry is one of the most popular comedians in the history of the world, and it's because he doesn't like jokey jokes, and the jokey jokes that Jerry has, the observational comedy, are hilarious.
Guest:Like, they're objectively hilarious.
Guest:The world has loved them.
Guest:Like, there's no... But Mark is like, no, you have to be...
Guest:who you are, you have to reveal something through your comedy.
Guest:And this is, it's fucked up that he hides himself behind this excuse of jokes.
Guest:And I always thought that that was like, Mark just missing the, the, the wave on J like, it's just like, it's not going to compute for him because he doesn't like that kind of comedy.
Guest:Uh, and he is angry about the fact that the majority of the world does like that.
Guest:That's what people's idea of what standup comedy is.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:and i'll tell you exactly what it was that changed that for me and was from that episode and it was as ryan was saying because i was watching it i was watching the zoom and that jerry has sitting behind him like these records right and it's like all his you know heroes on these records there's like a groucho marks record behind him and there's a lenny bruce record and it's like
Guest:There is no fucking way that he thinks Lenny Bruce is a hero.
Guest:Well, he might think Lenny Bruce is a hero, but there's no way that that can coexist with his idea that comedy is just about the jokes.
Guest:Right.
Guest:They can't.
Guest:So...
Guest:I came away from that interview, especially learning about like his weird orphaned parents situation and how they like basically didn't know how to parent him.
Guest:And that I'm like, oh yeah, Mark's been right.
Guest:This guy is in full hiding.
Guest:He's been hiding his whole life.
Guest:And part of the way he hides is by being a great comedian.
Guest:Right.
Guest:One of the greatest.
Guest:But like that has become his shield.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And so he can then say, that's all that it is.
Guest:That's all the comedy needs to be.
Guest:But don't tell me that that's all comedy is when you got your hero, Lenny Bruce's record sitting there right behind you.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Or like as Mark brought up in that thing, you love Don Rickles.
Guest:Like Don Rickles was all about an inner darkness.
Guest:Like his, he couldn't conceal his rage and like, that's what made him funny.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So, yeah, I think the exact trajectory I went on with the Birbiglia thing is what I went on with the Seinfeld thing here, where I, you know, I thought they were both right to some degree.
Guest:But I also think Mark's characterization of Jerry is probably accurate.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And I take Jerry Seinfeld to be like someone who's wearing a costume and just never takes off that costume.
Marc:Totally.
Marc:And that's now what he is now.
Marc:And like, he's very successful and he's very, you know, he's very funny.
Marc:But yeah, that's just...
Marc:who Jerry Seinfeld is and the idea that there should be or there is another way to get laughs or to be a comedian is so almost repugnant to Jerry at this point in his career.
Marc:It's really kind of sad when you think about it, right?
Marc:It's like...
Marc:You know, there's more than one way to get laughs.
Marc:And, like, you're just boxing yourself in because that's what's really comfortable to you, you know?
Guest:Well, yes, but I guess the thing is he's earned the right to do that.
Guest:Sure.
Guest:But it's also, I also think it's because he and Mark are more similar than they're different in a lot of ways in the sense that they both...
Guest:grinded it out on the road and they like, you know, had to come into their own as comics by just doing the job.
Guest:Like that's a, like a very standard Mark thing is like the job of this is to entertain strangers.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So that even though they do different, totally different material, they both like believe that in their hearts.
Guest:And it's so telling in that moment in his like comedians and cargo shorts and whatever that he is, uh, he,
Guest:The one we talked about with Bridget Everett, where he's freaking out about Bobcat.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:He's angry about the stuff Bobcat has said about him in the past, but he knows that the dagger he can use against Bob is that Bob didn't make it as a stand-up.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Bob had a gimmick as a stand-up, and he then moved that into...
Guest:acting, directing other methods of his creativity.
Guest:But as a standup, he didn't have it.
Guest:And which is why he had to do a character.
Guest:Jerry has that over him so he can stab him to death with it and not have to be like, he made fun of me because I dated a teenager.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So like, that's a, that, that is to me very notable about like the, the, the idea of this as a, as a thing Jerry uses in his defense.
Hmm.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I'll also say, while I'm in the midst of talking about things, I will not reveal who this was because it was an off mic comment, but there's only a handful of people it could be.
Guest:So you do the math.
Guest:But apparently, you know, when Jerry was like the, the, the people who made Seinfeld were like not getting cut in on the profits of the residuals and stuff.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:And,
Guest:One of them could be a member of the cast could be a member of the creative said to him, like, you're going to regret this.
Guest:Like, this is, this is not like, you should be the one to make this decision and you should, you know, use your power to make this work for everybody else.
Guest:And it fell on deaf ears and Jerry did not understand.
Guest:do anything he left it to you know the studio and the warner brothers whoever was at the time distribution and they were not cutting the people in on the profits and so that is why there was a holdout for the dvds and this was at a time when the dvd business was huge right but they were not going to sign off on it until they got theirs and if i don't know if you remember that story but they got theirs they got big cuts of the whole thing and
Guest:And that whenever it was after that thing happened and this person saw Jerry, he said, I told you you were going to regret that.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I do feel like that's another example.
Guest:Like, it's like Jerry was just going to, he was going to hide behind Jerry.
Guest:He was going to, he was like, oh no, no, I don't have any role in this.
Guest:Right.
Guest:But it's like, yes, you do.
Guest:It's your name is on the show.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Whatever you say will happen.
Guest:We'll go.
Guest:Right.
Guest:I am not like a Seinfeld hater and I am not a guy who, but like there's, there's plenty that's there.
Guest:That's right there for you to see.
Guest:And I, I think, you know, sometimes people see what they want to see, but in this case, I feel pretty confident that my assessment was correct.
Guest:Can I just can I just interrupt?
Marc:I have just two questions for you.
Marc:I don't really care who the last episode guest is going to be.
Marc:I don't care about like, you know, future guests, you know, whatever.
Marc:Only thing I care about.
Marc:Two things.
Marc:First is, are you going to release the goddamn David Fincher episode?
Guest:That's a real conundrum.
Guest:I gotta say, like, to be perfectly honest and not, like, be coy.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like...
Guest:We were asked not to release it.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:But for no good reason.
Guest:It's not like he was saying... But still, it's like, I don't know.
Guest:Treat people the way you want to be treated.
Guest:Yeah, I know.
Guest:It just sucks that that's there.
Guest:I understand that.
Guest:But it's like, I don't know how I feel about it.
Guest:I think that the only recourse that I have...
Guest:is to write back to him and be like, we are ending this show.
Guest:You never did it again.
Guest:Like you said, you're going to.
Guest:And, you know, can I just at least release this for the few thousand people who subscribe to our, you know, subscription?
Guest:But I don't think I can do it without his permission.
Guest:I just don't.
Guest:And I know people can say what they want to say about it, but like the guy fucking emailed me personally and said, please don't release that.
Guest:That's like a rough thing to renege on, right?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Why, why would I do it other than because I can?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And, and then it's like, okay, so your word was shit.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Right.
Marc:And you don't want that.
Marc:You don't want that to be your, what someone, anyone thinks of you, right?
Guest:Like I know you worked very hard for it to be the opposite.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Right.
Marc:So, I mean, I don't want to give you more work, but if you could send an email to David Fincher to ask him that, that would be great.
Marc:But, you know, that's up to you.
Marc:But I will say all this talk about the show ending.
Marc:16 years is a long time, man.
Marc:Mark and you have talked and texted probably more than anyone, you know, like, right.
Marc:Like you guys have a relationship after 16 years, after this whole thing's over in six months, a year, uh,
Marc:aren't you going to kind of miss him?
Marc:I like, are you guys still going to be friends?
Marc:Oh, of course.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:And like, I won't miss the fact that, that, you know, most of our conversations are mandated.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So like this actually helps.
Guest:We, we have a fine time together when we're not doing work.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So I, I have, I have no doubt that when he comes to New York, we will go out to dinner and we will walk around the city and shoot the shit and,
Guest:you know, make fun of people and it'll be a great grand old time.
Guest:And I have no doubt that, you know, he will text me when something crazy happens in the world and ask me to make sense of it.
Guest:And I will have to tell him I'm in the same boat as you do.
Guest:I don't know what the fuck's going on.
Guest:And that'll be our relationship.
Guest:But like, you know, we have to talk every day because of work.
Guest:Now it's good.
Guest:There's no, there's no problem with that.
Guest:But like, I don't know, you'd like...
Guest:just change the dynamic and be just about, you know, leisure and enjoying each other's company.
Guest:And that's an improvement.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I just feel like you guys are going to miss each other a bit.
Marc:And like, and that's good.
Guest:It's good to miss someone instead of like, I think you might, my, my, we will miss each other the way you miss a friend when they move away.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know, like, but that's happened plenty of times in my life and it's going to, it's the way of the world.
Guest:I, I,
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:I'm not trying to claim like any great advanced thinking on this.
Guest:It just so happens that I do think about it, that I think about the idea of things ending of loss.
Guest:You know, I was mentioning it to Mark about the, about the guys who call the Mets games.
Guest:Like I have put it in my head that we will not have them forever.
Guest:Right.
Guest:That's just there.
Guest:I remember it was like,
Guest:I guess 2021 coming out of COVID, like it was like maybe still a few weeks until we had vaccines.
Guest:And so I, but we were still keeping distant from things, but I do remember visiting my parents.
Guest:We'd all kind of quarantined for a while.
Guest:And so we were able to go visit them and all spend time together.
Guest:And they're in upstate New York.
Guest:And I went for a walk with Don.
Guest:And, you know, we were just hiking and talking about like the nice things that we'll get to do now that the world's coming back online and you can like, you know, we're going to have vaccines soon.
Guest:We're going to be able to go back to things and do things.
Guest:I did say I was like, you also have to keep in mind.
Guest:And it's all downhill from here in terms of like, we have aging parents.
Guest:We have, you know, it's like every day of our lives from now forward could be met with something that completely throws our lives off their axis, right?
Guest:Right.
Guest:And we just have to be okay with that.
Guest:You have to be okay with it.
Guest:And so like, I don't know, again, I don't claim any like special privilege on this.
Guest:It wasn't like a secret that I unlocked.
Guest:It just is right.
Guest:I just have an awareness of things ending and, and, and being, getting yourself good with that.
Guest:Um, which when you see, uh, Mark's special, he will, his whole closing bit is based on that.
Guest:It's like, it can go away in a second and you might be listening to Taylor Swift when it happens, right?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So like, I'm okay with Mark and I having a change to our relationship.
Guest:I don't think it will be bad.
Guest:And I don't think I will be like, I think it will probably improve.
Guest:Even though it's not bad right now, it will probably improve.
Marc:All right, good.
Marc:I'm happy to hear that.
Marc:And, you know, that was the prevailing thought I had with you guys talking on Tuesday.
Marc:I was just like, I feel like these two are just going to miss each other's in each other's lives, but I'm glad that's going to continue.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:All right.
Guest:A couple of questions here from Mike in Gilderland, who I wrote into us before, as I mentioned, I've spent a lot of time in Gilderland, New York.
Guest:And he said, as a Full Merit subscriber, I don't hear ads on WTF, but I've heard ads in other shows hosted by Acast.
Guest:It seems like they're inserted when I download them.
Guest:Hmm.
Guest:Does the non-subscriber feed for WTF work like that?
Guest:Do you insert some piece of metadata so that, for instance, if someone downloads an old episode, they're hearing a current ad rather than one that's embedded in the original audio file?
Guest:And yes, that is how it works.
Guest:Although the way that we have it arranged with ACAST is that in North America, not the case in foreign territories, those inserted ads are all read by Mark.
Guest:So, you know, that's part of our work is that, you know, he has to he records ads that that do not that are not part of like his monologue, the way you hear him do the monologue.
Guest:And, you know, he's always just kind of like floated on a simply safe ad in there.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:he then will do ones that are not that so that the archive episodes and, and, and also just the episodes that are current.
Guest:Sometimes a client will pay for that particular kind of ad versus the ones that's, you know, baked into his monologue.
Guest:So yes, we've been doing that.
Guest:And, you know, Mike's followup question was, do you think that'll be the case in the future?
Guest:And like, that's my hope that going back to what I was saying earlier, we're trying to get stuff settled with the archives going forward.
Guest:If it's,
Guest:It can make sense for this to work in a way where everyone has access to them and that and it's supported by inserted ads.
Guest:And then you could have a separate tier where you don't want those ads.
Guest:So you pay to just have access all the time without them.
Guest:That to me is the ideal.
Guest:I would love for it to be like that.
Guest:And we're going to work very hard to make sure it is.
Guest:But but there's a future for allow.
Guest:We've already put that little piece of metadata that you're talking about, Mike, into the episodes.
Guest:They are there.
Guest:And that, at least for a cast, makes it very easy for them to insert ads into the show.
Guest:Awesome.
Guest:All right.
Guest:And then I know a lot of people have written in with just incredibly nice things to say.
Guest:Some of them are very long and very detailed and very involved.
Guest:And we really appreciate what you're sending in on that level.
Guest:I cannot read all of them here, but I did like a couple of these here, especially as they're directed to some things that you have said, Chris.
Guest:Mm-hmm.
Guest:This is from Randy.
Guest:He says, as a rabid AEW fan, I was an immediate subscriber to the full Marin.
Guest:I enjoyed your shows about wrestling, but as the scope of the Friday show broadened, my interest grew.
Guest:It was great to listen as you shared your common interests and life experiences.
Guest:The Friday show truly became one of the highlights of my week.
Guest:That's amazing.
Guest:Awesome.
Guest:Thank you, Randy.
Guest:He also said, I will miss the two of you, but I know I will be reminded of you every time I watch the movies you discussed, listen to one of my favorite movie soundtracks, or I'm reminded of what a piece of crap Hulk Hogan is.
Guest:Damn straight.
Guest:Chris, you are not a piece of crap.
Guest:thank you yours truly randy fellow madam web survivor also by the time you hear this i should just say we're shitting on hulk hogan i've heard he's in medical trouble right now and there's rumors that he's not doing well if he dies before this airs or when you're listening to this we had nothing to do with that
Guest:I guess like, you know, R.I.P.
Guest:Hulk Hogan, but also like not.
Guest:So, you know, I think we could stand by the statement that Randy made.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:And this one came in from an unnamed person, but I'm pretty sure this person has written to us on the regular.
Guest:Why do you say that?
Guest:Because this request is very common.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:You want to say that?
Guest:It says, I wish you all the best and sincerely thank you for leaving your mark on the world.
Guest:Also, is it time to fuck with the Park Slope food co-op yet?
Guest:I think this is the same person who has written in since you told that story, Chris.
Guest:And he was like, just say the word.
Guest:Just say the word and I'll do it.
Guest:I did not want to activate anyone on behalf of that.
Guest:In fact, if you go Google Park Slope Food Co-op today, you will see there is much strife going on there.
Guest:They have like a vote coming up about... What, hummus?
Guest:Hummus?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:That's something having to do with food from Israel.
Guest:And like, it is like exactly the conflict that you would expect at the Park Slope food co-op.
Guest:I just don't understand these people.
Guest:I understand them a million percent.
Guest:I know exactly who they are.
Guest:god uh eva who has written in before or is it ava i apologize if i say i'm saying that wrong um but i love that this was very simple and it like made sense to me she said you have been my companions for many years through difficult times you are truly great i believe it's wise for you to end this i will miss you tremendously and
Guest:And that like, thank you for that, Ava.
Guest:Like it is like that is a wonderful sentiment.
Guest:Like, I love that you will miss us.
Guest:And I understand the kind of like heartache of having a thing you like not being there, but also holding in your head that it's the right thing to do.
Guest:I really, really appreciate that.
Guest:Um, and Brandy had a comment that resonated very strongly with me too.
Guest:Um, uh, she said, ending it satisfied with the work you've done with no compromises in how you were doing it is 100% what you've worked for and deserve.
Guest:Congratulations on your success and decision.
Guest:And when we listeners, of course, very selfishly miss the show and bonus shows, we'll have that awesome compendium of WTF episodes to go back to and check out again.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Uh,
Guest:I couldn't have said it better myself.
Guest:Uh, and I, I, I really thank everybody out there who's had their very thoughtful comments about the show and what it means to them.
Guest:Um, I'm, I'm more than touched by it.
Guest:Um, I'm also very, uh, happy that the episode we did last week with Diana Moskovitz was received so well.
Guest:I got so many comments about that.
Guest:Just people saying thank you and that they loved it and that they loved hearing it and they agreed.
Guest:It mirrored their own experience.
Guest:Um,
Guest:I knew that we were doing the right thing by announcing the ending of the show before it ended.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Like I did not want us to get to like a week before and be like, by the way, next week's the last week of the show.
Guest:Right.
Guest:But I did have my concerns.
Guest:I had my concerns that it would be like people would be like, oh, OK, well, so it's done.
Guest:Click.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Disengage.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And and or or to, you know, think like, what are these guys?
Guest:What's their problem?
Guest:Like, why are they ending it?
Guest:Like, it makes no sense.
Guest:I have been very buoyed by the fact that not only overwhelmingly do people seem to understand our reasoning behind this.
Guest:but they are endorsing that reasoning and also celebrating the show.
Guest:They're not taking the time to think of like the sadness of it, but the celebration of it.
Guest:And you know, as an Irish person who is used to the idea of an Irish wake, I am totally on board with that.
Guest:And I thank you all for being there as well.
Guest:And thanks everybody for sending in your comments.
Guest:I feel like this was a good way to kind of get a lot of them out there,
Guest:But I won't stop.
Guest:If you keep sending them in, we will continue to address your questions.
Guest:We will continue to read your topic ideas and thoughts and things that you're hoping that we might do on these remaining Friday shows.
Guest:In fact, got this one comment in here, Chris.
Guest:It says on June 23rd, I'm going to see Terminator 2 on the big screen for the first time.
Guest:Dope.
Guest:Really?
Guest:Honoring my 15 year old self.
Guest:I grew up in a small town with the closest movie theater, a 40 minute drive.
Guest:So became ever more aware of cultural isolation as friends turned 16 and got a sudden freedom of options.
Guest:I remember the summer T2 came out and knowing that I'd have to wait an interminable year for its VHS release.
Guest:And I think I wore out that tape.
Guest:For university, I went to Toronto, suddenly a big screen availability rivaling New York City, so made up for lost time.
Guest:But I haven't yet seen that semi truck crash into the LA riverbed in all its bright lights, big city glory.
Guest:What is a movie you never saw on the big screen, but are dying to?
Guest:My top desire is still Kubrick's 2001 coming close in 1996, only to have it sell out on a frigidly cold winter night.
Guest:What are the best ones you have seen and what are the ones you still want to see?
Guest:And that's from Darcy, who identifies himself as the one behind a SNL question that was sent in once before.
Guest:And as he says, not the apparently cool Darcy who hangs out with you, Mark and David Byrne.
Yeah.
Marc:Different Darcy's.
Guest:All right.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:And so I think that would be a great thing for next episode.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I want you to think of yours, Chris, both the ones you have seen and the ones you have never seen.
Guest:And I will do the same.
Guest:And anyone listening who wants to write in their thoughts, please do so.
Guest:The link is in the episode description.
Guest:Just go down there, click on it and send it to us.
Guest:And you can also keep sending us whatever your thoughts are on the history of WTF.
Guest:And until the next time, I am Brendan, and that is Chris.
Guest:Peace!