BONUS The Friday Show - Smokey Gets in Your Eyes
Marc:Snowman is doing some math on like some calculator on his dashboard.
Marc:What the hell was that?
Marc:Oh, wasn't it because of the CBs?
Marc:Oh, was that?
Marc:No.
Marc:So they have this whole conversation about CBs.
Marc:It's like out of the wire.
Yes.
Yes.
Guest:Hey, Chris.
Guest:Hey, Brendan.
Guest:Been a while since I've seen you.
Guest:Been a minute, hasn't it?
Guest:Like literally a minute.
Guest:A couple minutes, yeah.
Guest:We are recording this because I am away.
Guest:I'm in Italy.
Guest:I will be in Italy for the next two weeks.
Guest:So these will not be up-to-date shows.
Guest:They are, as we call it, in the can.
Guest:But we just finished talking with Mark and Darby Allin, which I thought was a blast.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Mark, Mark texted me immediately afterwards.
Guest:He was like, I'm sorry if I stepped on you guys so much.
Guest:I was like, no, dude, that was the whole point was to have you there.
Guest:Like, honestly, Darby even gave it away at the end of the talk.
Guest:He said, I didn't want to be doing this with a wrestling show.
Guest:Like I wanted to tell my story with, you know, something else.
Guest:And it's like, well, if it was just you and me, we're still wrestling goofs.
Guest:So, you know, getting Mark there to have him tell that story, I thought was great.
Guest:I was so happy that happened that way.
Marc:Yeah, absolutely.
Marc:And man, but Darby has a fascinating life.
Marc:Like his house seems like it should be on cribs.
Guest:Yeah, we talked to him.
Guest:He talked to us from the sauna, which was not on, thankfully, since he was wearing his like weird pink fluffy alpaca hoodie.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yes, still.
Guest:And yes, he said he has a skate park at his house.
Guest:Two ice baths.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I wonder if he does a coffin drop into the ice baths.
Guest:That is my visual.
Guest:You gotta.
Marc:It has to be a plate of glass on top of it.
Guest:Yeah, I wonder how many things he just throws himself into at his house as well.
Guest:Well, Darby is an appropriate segue to... Because Darby, even if you know nothing of wrestling, you heard last week's conversation, you could tell he's kind of a daredevil, does a lot of stunts.
Guest:He's inclined to take risks where they previously didn't exist.
Guest:And that brings us to what we are talking about today, which is kind of weird, I admit.
Guest:But I was like, oh, hell, I could talk about this for an hour because...
Guest:I went to see, you know, Chris and I have done this before here on the show where we watched something for the first time that we had never seen in our lives.
Guest:And I had never seen and went to see in the movie theater, Smokey and the Bandit.
Guest:Oh, you went to the movie theater to see this?
Guest:I did.
Guest:I went to the movie theater to see it on Sunday.
Guest:I was invited by a friend who, a friend who loved it, right?
Guest:It's one of his favorite movies.
Guest:So he was like, oh, I'm going to see Smokey and the Bandit.
Guest:You want to come?
Guest:And I was like, yeah, I've never seen it.
Guest:He was like, what?
What?
Guest:You've never seen it.
Guest:So we went to see Smokey and the Bandit.
Guest:And I asked you, have you ever seen it?
Guest:And you said at the time, you didn't think so.
Guest:Was that confirmed when you watched it?
Marc:Never laid eyes on this movie before.
Marc:Really?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:So totally fresh to the two of us.
Marc:I think...
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I think I saw maybe the second one, but I think it was actually the third one because I, yeah, it's just, I'm pretty sure I only saw the third one.
Marc:The third one.
Guest:That's like, this is like the Hank Kingsley joke on Larry Sanders.
Guest:I've only seen Godfather 3, the good one.
Guest:I'm surprised.
Guest:Well, it's funny because I was going to say, I'm surprised you never saw it since your dad was a bus driver and Jackie Gleason was probably a hero in your household.
Marc:And not only that, but like Burt Reynolds in this movie looks a lot like my dad.
Marc:Oh, really?
Marc:And Sally Field looks a lot like my mom.
Guest:Oh, no kidding.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:So like any sexual chemistry, I was just like, I don't know.
Marc:I'm just watching my parents here in this movie.
Marc:So yeah.
Yeah.
Guest:But it's funny, though, that you've seen the third one, because that might maybe that was the only one your dad would allow in the house, because that was the one where it's about sheriff justice.
Guest:Like Jackie Gleason is the star of that.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So maybe he was like, no, no, no, we don't fuck with the Burt Reynolds ones.
Guest:Right.
Guest:We only do the bandit where, where Cletus is now the bandit and the star is Jackie Gleason, my hero.
Marc:You're talking to a family that had a Jackie Gleason framed picture at the top of the wall and below the wall was Jesus and mother Mary.
Marc:So like that was the hierarchy.
Marc:Okay.
Yeah.
Guest:Oh, man.
Guest:Well, so, yes.
Guest:So I saw it for the first time.
Guest:You saw it for the first time, which is crazy because maybe there's a lot of people listening to this right now who have never seen Smokey and the Bandit.
Guest:That might just be because of the way things have changed over time and, you know, certain legacies get bigger, certain things fade away.
Guest:But this was the second highest grossing movie of 1977.
Guest:Oh, wow.
Guest:Second only to Star Wars.
Guest:Which was the biggest movie of all time.
Guest:So had Star Wars not come out that year, this would have been the biggest movie of the year.
Guest:Holy shit.
Guest:It sets Burt Reynolds off on a six year uninterrupted streak of being the number one actor in the world.
Guest:So from this year, 1977, I mean, if you don't count the individuals in Star Wars, which I don't, right?
Guest:They're not, you know, no, no person in Star Wars sold the movie above the title.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Burt Reynolds did.
Guest:So from 1977 to 1982, Burt Reynolds was the number one movie star in the world, which is just, it feels crazy.
Guest:Cause like to me, Burt Reynolds was two things.
Guest:He was, uh,
Guest:Like when I was a kid, he was a guy you saw on the tabloids all the time.
Guest:Like if you're at the, the, the supermarket with your mom.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:He was on like star magazine with Lonnie.
Guest:Like that was like, Oh, that's Burt Reynolds.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And then he was on TV.
Guest:Right.
Guest:An evening shade.
Guest:So like the idea that this guy was the biggest star in the world.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Like it was, it didn't compute necessarily.
Yeah.
Guest:Not so after, I mean, I'll get into it, but it took me all of 90 seconds to settle into the reality of who Bert was in the world.
Marc:I mean, from the second you meet him, he's like laying up in a hammock.
Marc:Okay, wait, we got to get to that scene.
Yeah.
Guest:But first, I wanted to ask you, having never seen it, what did you think of Smokey and the Bandit?
Marc:I mean, it's a chase movie.
Marc:It's like the cornerstone of exciting movies in this day and age.
Marc:They're all kind of ripping off of this movie, no?
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah, it is oddly influential and and still fun.
Guest:And like it has like you're right.
Guest:It set a template that a lot of other movies copy.
Guest:But like, I mean, we can get into it.
Guest:There's plenty of problems with the movie and plenty of things that are problematic with it.
Guest:But at the same time, it's not like.
Guest:mean-spirited it's not like uh it's not like um a an action movie that is that has no humanity like the people in it are people they're real people and you recognize that and that's probably why it was successful right like it had a it had a human heart a human touch to it uh and it still zips along literally and figuratively right it's it's a very fast propulsive movie and
Guest:And it's probably the only good thing that Hal Needham, the director, ever directed because he was a stuntman and he was one of Burt's.
Guest:He was basically Cliff Booth.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So like, you know, how Burt Reynolds was was the the Rick Dalton of the day.
Guest:He was on these shows.
Guest:cowboy shows and how need him was his stunt double.
Guest:And they became buddies just like Rick and, uh, Cliff in once upon a time in Hollywood.
Guest:And, um, how need him was this, you know, very, uh, respected stunt man.
Guest:People still, you know, we'll cite him today as like the, one of the great stunt men.
Guest:Uh, in fact, I've probably told this before, but my first, my first assignment was,
Guest:When I worked for the radio station at Fordham, the first thing I was ever sent out into the field to do was go to a stuntman convention at the Fort Lee Marriott in New Jersey and interview Hal Needham.
Guest:No kidding.
Guest:That was my first job that I ever did as a person who worked in news.
Guest:so what was your opening question to uh i don't remember my opening was i remember i was bad at it i definitely i mean he was very nice and he gave me all the answers but i was not good at it and you never saw his signature movie no i had never seen smoking the bandit but i i had known most of what he did as stunts which was really what he was there to talk about
Guest:He was there to talk to like, you know, it was like a stunt man audience.
Guest:Like they wanted to hear about stunts.
Guest:Like he was like a stunt man in the Dustin Hoffman movie, Little Big Man.
Guest:He does like a horse jumping stunt in that.
Guest:And so like there was a lot of stuff on that level.
Guest:But I, you know, like here's exactly how I came to it in my mind.
Guest:I'm like, OK, so the thing that's cool about this guy is that he's a stunt man.
Guest:Him as a director was a shit career.
Guest:Like, that was my mentality in looking at his life, right?
Guest:Before I talked to him, it was like, oh, he just got these jobs because he was Burt Reynolds' friend, and they're all lousy movies, Stroker Ace and whatever, the Cannonball Run movies.
Guest:Like, these barely count as movies, right?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And I guess I had just mentally dumped Smokey and the Bandit into that, too.
Guest:Like, I always just thought, like, yeah, that's junk.
Marc:So for you, thinking that this is just a junkie guy, like kind of a, like you said, like a Cliff Booth, like how was he as an interviewer?
Marc:He was.
Guest:like you know he was there he was on right he's like you know he's paid to come to this uh you know hotel ballroom and talk to a bunch of like you know guys who were like yeah tell us about the time you jumped off of this so like he was he had a whole spiel going on and that was great that was fine and i like but i definitely like remember coming away from that with like a total respect for the guy like that's a guy from show business right yeah
Guest:And apparently the backstory of this movie is he, this was his like baby.
Guest:Like he thought about, he came up with this idea, him and some other guy that came up with the story of these bootleggers, which by the way, this then paves, I don't again, make the connection till just now that this paves the way for Dukes of Hazzard.
Guest:Oh yeah.
Marc:It's so coded with Dukes of Hazzard, which is way before.
Guest:Like it's, it's, it's, it's clearly like Dukes of Hazzard was like, let's try to make Smokey and the Bandit as a TV show.
Guest:Right?
Guest:Yeah.
Yeah.
Guest:So he comes up with this bootlegging script and this idea that it'll be a chase movie.
Guest:And he brings... Nobody will finance it.
Guest:He wanted to make it as like a cheapie because you could do that back then.
Guest:You know, like the Roger Corman model and that.
Guest:And he still can't get anybody to make it.
Guest:So he brings it to Bert, who is starting to be on the ascent.
Guest:Like Bert's pretty...
Guest:You know, Bert's pretty famous, right?
Guest:It's not like he's not like a nobody.
Guest:This is like this is his biggest movie to date when it comes out.
Guest:But he was somebody before this.
Guest:So like Burt Reynolds being in your movie was a big deal.
Guest:And they're best buddies.
Guest:So he brings him the script and Reynolds says it's the worst script he has ever read.
Guest:Oh, no.
Guest:But he will agree to make it because Hal's his friend and he will, but he will only do it under the condition that it get rewritten.
Guest:So I don't know if you noticed the, the screenwriting credit in the title card is like five names, lots of ands, lots of ampersands, right?
Guest:And the interesting thing I read about it after the fact is that almost all the production stories about this movie is that it was almost all tossed anyway.
Guest:The script did so much of it, just dialogue made up on the set.
Guest:A lot of which is somehow very good.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like, I was surprised watching it.
Guest:Like, I'm like, this is, there's parts of this that are legitimately funny.
Guest:And I'm not just talking, like, obviously they let Jackie Gleason do whatever he wanted.
Guest:And he's like, just...
Guest:chewing all the scenery every square inch of it he's devouring right sometimes literally like he's like comes up next siles next to him at that lunch counter and just like is disgustingly scarfing down a sandwich which apparently was all jackie jackie gleason wrote that whole scene there was no scene in the movie where smoky where you know the general uh sheriff uh justice meets the bandit
Guest:until the very end.
Guest:So he came up with this idea.
Guest:No, no, no.
Guest:I should, I should encounter him and not know it's him and be friendly with him.
Guest:Oh, wow.
Guest:So that was all Jackie Gleason deciding to house of whatever sausage sandwich that he's painting his face with.
Guest:$1.50 for that burger was great.
Guest:It did make me hungry while I was watching it.
Guest:But so, yeah.
Guest:So, like, it has this weird, like, kind of DIY mentality to it, despite the fact that, like, all the stunts are very professional and, like, impressive.
Guest:Super impressive.
Guest:Like, that they were doing this with cars.
Guest:There was no, you know, trickery at the time.
Guest:I mean, they obviously used camera tricks.
Guest:You used angles and stuff.
Guest:But it's not like some kind of way you could...
Guest:fake it in post that these cars are really crashing into things.
Guest:Uh, and, and the, just the hairpin turns and spinning out and all this, this was like, this was definitely, we were talking about this, uh, you know, when we were, we were talking about, um, big movies to see on the big screen last week or two weeks ago.
Guest:Where I said, like, I feel like there's something lost in the era where, you know, we're not in, we're no longer in the era where filmmakers were making things deliberately to wow you in a movie theater.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Like, like they, they knew that this idea of seeing this thing on the screen would look impressive and,
Guest:Right.
Guest:And that's how I felt watching this in the movie theater.
Guest:I'm like, damn, they just drove that car onto the back of that truck.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:They drove that car off of a dock at some point.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:That's a good stunt too.
Guest:Like you don't, you know, like in speed when they jump, the bus jumps from one part of the highway to the other.
Guest:And like, it's so ridiculous the way it like it pitches, like it's on like a 45 degree ramp.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Yes.
Marc:this just looks like he drives real fast to drive over a bridge yeah yeah and but can i just say the title itself as someone who's never seen this movie before i didn't know who was smoky and who was the bandit i was like is the girl smoky and like like i i was so and like she was trying to smoke a cigarette so i'm like oh that's smoky there's a part early on where where he calls the cops plural smokies
Guest:Right.
Guest:Like when he's when he's setting up the idea of getting this beer run going, he says to Cletus, I'll do this and I'll block the Smokies that are on our trail.
Guest:So I know now I'm like, OK, cops are called Smokies.
Guest:But I knew that Jackie Gleason, you know it from the credits, even if you don't know it from culture.
Guest:It says Jackie Gleason as Sheriff Buford T. Justice.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So I know his name's not Smokey.
Guest:Right.
Guest:But.
Guest:And so I was watching with the same thing.
Guest:I'm like, is this going to be like, she turns into the smoky?
Guest:Like, is that like, like, like smoky is cops, but then like, you know, is she a cop?
Guest:Like, are we going to find out?
Guest:Also, that's the other thing.
Guest:Don't complicate things with this movie.
Guest:Like,
Guest:I told somebody I went to see this and they're like, what'd you think?
Guest:I wrote very easy to follow.
Guest:That's my first reaction.
Guest:Uh, but yeah, no, it's just that I think it's,
Guest:I think it's basically like they probably at some point just had him being pursued by a sheriff named Smokey.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And apparently Buford T. Justice was the real name of some dude that somebody involved with the production knew.
Guest:I don't remember if it was Bert or if it was...
Guest:hal needham or jerry reed who plays cletus somebody knew a guy a cop named buford t justice and they brought that up and they're like well that's this guy's name's got to be buford t justice so i bet he was initially just called smoky or whatever like at one point on the cb he says who are you to to jackie gleason and jackie gleason says i'm smoky bear and i'm coming to smoke you out or whatever right yeah so
Guest:maybe that's what it was his name was smoky bear or whatever and he and they've come away from it still bottom line i didn't know who smoky and the bandit were when the movie started i'm so glad i'm we're starting on the same page well it's also like i i also think intellectually i knew that burt reynolds was the bandit like he owned the usfl team called the bandits so like i
Guest:i i think i knew and like that trans am is pretty memorable as the bandits car like you see it you know just in like car shows and stuff come see the bandits car you know so like i think intellectually i knew that but still when it started i was like is he is he gonna be smoky i didn't know
Marc:And the plot of this movie is like, for me, I'm like, wait, what's happening?
Marc:They have to get Coors beer over the Mississippi?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I was struggling with that.
Marc:So that's the thing.
Guest:To us, it seems so wildly implausible that people would break the law to get Coors beer.
Yeah.
Guest:So if you don't know the plot of Smokey and the Bandit, you start out, you see that there's a truck driving around.
Guest:You hear a very literal song about Bandit and how he is the great trucker of the South.
Guest:And that's Jerry Reed singing the song.
Marc:Which, by the way...
Marc:Bandit never drives a truck.
Guest:He doesn't drive a single truck.
Guest:And when you first see Bandit, there are signs saying, King of all truckers, come meet the great Bandit, the truck driving world champion, it says on the sign.
Marc:I have a question.
Guest:So is he driving the truck around the world?
Guest:Does he go to the Le Mans with a semi truck?
Guest:Is he in China like racing people?
Guest:On the wall?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I want to know more about the world, the world title of truck driving.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Fascinating.
Guest:Uh, but so yes, you never see him in a truck, but you see that there's this, this trucker and then you find out is not the bandit.
Guest:As we said, Burr Reynolds is not driving a truck and it's just some guy who gets stopped by the feds, uh, for, or maybe it was the low, the, the state police.
Guest:And it was because he is, uh, uh, shipping Coors from Texas to Texas.
Guest:East of the Mississippi.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So wherever he is caught, he's east of the Mississippi, and you're not allowed to do that with Coors.
Guest:Now, like I said, seems weird to us.
Guest:Apparently, this was a very well-known thing in 1997, that Coors beer had a shipment deadline because it was not made with any preservatives or additives.
Guest:So it expired within a week.
Guest:So if you were shipping it,
Guest:anywhere past like it was made in colorado so if you're going past the the mississippi that's too far for the for it to be deemed still safe when you're drinking it so it was illegal for sale east of texas and apparently people smuggled it all the time dwight eisenhower used to have it shipped to the white house under secrecy because he loved coors beer so much and
Guest:And I don't know this as a fact, but I bet, this is my takeaway from learning all this information.
Guest:I bet it was like Mexican Coke.
Guest:Coca-Cola, that is.
Guest:Where people are told, oh, this is so much better than regular Coke.
Guest:And they believe it and therefore crave it.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So I think people heard, like, of course, it's the beer you have to drink within a week.
Guest:It has no preservatives.
Guest:It's like, this is pure...
Guest:Colorado Mountain beer.
Guest:And everyone's brain was like, I need that beer.
Guest:And by the way, I should say, I did a blind taste test at work one time with Mexican Coke versus regular Coke.
Guest:And the Mexican Coke was wiped out, just lost everything.
Guest:Every person voted the regular Coke.
Guest:So I do think it's bullshit.
Guest:And I think that probably was the case with Coors Beer, which we now know as having no different taste than Bud Light.
Guest:Oh, that's interesting.
Marc:See, I equated this to In-N-Out Burger not being available like, you know, east of the Mississippi.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:You know, so like because they don't like freeze their burgers or some shit.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:I guess it's the same thing, dude.
Guest:I don't think that's wrong.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:So that's what I was equating this movie to.
Marc:It's like, all right, they're trying to get a burger run.
Guest:But I did think that it was going to be some other answer.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Because he says to Big Enus and Little Enus, which these are the two guys, the whole time too, like again, you think this is more complicated than it is.
Guest:Because these two guys, this is all you know, a large Texan and a small Texan.
Guest:Dressed exactly the same.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Father and son played by Pat McCormick and and Paul Williams, the musician.
Guest:And he they you're told by the by the cops that they have been trying to bet.
Guest:whether or not someone can make this run of the Coors beer from Texarkana to wherever they are.
Guest:I believe they're in Georgia.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And so they've been betting someone that they can make this.
Guest:And apparently all it is, is they like to bet.
Guest:And they would like to have beer at the winner's circle when this truck rodeo is happening.
Guest:Right.
Guest:You are told that and you do not believe it because you think there must be some other plot device here.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:No, that's exactly what it is.
Guest:These are just two guys.
Guest:And then later in the movie, you see, they just bet everything.
Guest:They're like addictive people.
Guest:Right.
Guest:It's just like they're so rich.
Guest:It's total cartoon logic.
Guest:They're so rich that all they can do now in life is just bet to that's their only way to actually achieve more money is to bet each other for money.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:They're like the old guys in trading places with 100 percent with one dollar.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Right.
Guest:That's exactly what it is.
Guest:uh okay so you meet big enos and lily enos and they you you find out that they have been failing at this bet and now they decide the way that they're going to try to make this happen and it's also unclear are they betting against each other or is there some it's just like they're betting against fate like like who loses the bet exactly the bandit i guess it's just like whoever doesn't make it is the loser right so insane
Guest:So they go to a truck rodeo.
Guest:Don't know what that is.
Marc:Why hasn't Transformers done a truck rodeo situation?
Guest:Where's Mark Wahlberg making that movie?
Guest:I'd watch that.
Guest:Because they know that the great trucking champion, Bandit, is there.
Guest:So they go sneaking around this truck rodeo.
Guest:They go behind a few trucks and they're laying in a hammock with this cowboy hat over his face is the bandit.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And this was it, man.
Guest:This was the, this, this shot.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I was like, Oh, I get why this was so popular and why this guy was so popular.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:He's the coolest guy in the whole world.
Guest:Okay, but I want to add something to that.
Marc:What?
Guest:Because a lot of guys were the coolest guy in the whole world.
Guest:That was the whole point of like the Hollywood cowboy iconography, right?
Guest:You just had cool dudes, right?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And this guy has his cowboy hat over his head.
Guest:He slowly, with his one thumb, lifts the hat up.
Guest:And you see, you know, mustachioed Burt Reynolds.
Guest:You don't see what he's looking at.
Guest:But you know, because you know that Bigginess and Liliness, wearing their identical suits, have approached him.
Guest:So you know what he sees.
Guest:And as he pulls this cowboy hat up his head, he laughs the most joyous,
Guest:infectious it's the burt reynolds laugh it's the thing everybody knows from the outtakes of cannonball run yeah they're like right like that's a fan it's like eddie murphy's laugh right yeah it's so disarming yes you're like oh god this is because he's cool but also it's like a kind of dorky effeminate laugh and like you're like this it's he's not just cool you're like this guy seems fun yeah
Guest:I am ready to have fun.
Guest:And I think that probably was not the case with Burt Reynolds before this, because he's just a guy from a lot of cowboy TV shows.
Guest:He's deliverance makes him a pretty big name, but that's a pretty serious heavy duty movie.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And so, you know, people know him from films and from TV, but like he's never really popped in anything like fun.
Guest:He turned down Han Solo at just before making this.
Guest:So like that would have been something he would have been fun in, but he didn't do it.
Guest:So it's really just like he's, he's, he's also, he's made some of these Southern movies, made a movie called white lightning, which was also a chase movie.
Guest:And, and so he's got this kind of, you're, you're, you're associating him with his cowboy past on TV, his, his kind of Southern past in his recent films, but that laugh for,
Guest:felt probably totally new right like that feels like it was like a declaration like i am here for the next six years to party with you right we're going to party right and you do you like you're all great we're we're off and running and then right away not only is he fun he's really funny because he says to those guys i love your suits must be a bitch getting a size 68 extra fat and a 12 dwarf
Guest:I mean, the movie also declaring right there.
Guest:We are not in that in 2025 where I'm going to start my movie out with a fat joke and a dwarf joke.
Guest:And, and this, and it's so effortless.
Guest:And then, then he's like explaining, all right, I'm going to take this thing.
Guest:You got to go from here, go to there.
Guest:I'm not sure.
Guest:I'm not sure you can do it.
Guest:And little Enos is like, I think you're just chicken.
Guest:And he's like, great psychology.
Guest:Why don't you say something about my mother now?
Yeah.
Guest:He's like Ferris Bueller.
Guest:I kept thinking like, yeah, because then the same thing when he goes and convinces Cletus to come help him.
Guest:Like this guy, he's just so charming.
Guest:He can sell anyone.
Guest:He's selling anyone on anything.
Marc:Yeah, he's this character that we all know before seeing him.
Marc:It's like, oh, I know this guy.
Marc:I've seen him in all these movies.
Marc:It's just that this is the first one, apparently.
Guest:Then the rest of the movie, it treats him like he's almost this magical character that everyone knows of and is willing to help.
Guest:Really, you are spot on that it's like Ferris Bueller.
Guest:Just how everyone...
Guest:automatically is like, Oh, save Ferris or whatever, you know, like the totally the same thing.
Guest:He is Ferris Bueller of the Southern trucking community.
Marc:And so, so the plan is for him.
Marc:So he has to get his friend Cletus snowman, uh, to drive the truck and with his dog, Fred.
Marc:And while bandit is going to drive his black Pontiac Trans Am as a blocker,
Guest:The blocker car, yeah.
Marc:To divert attention away from the truck and its illegal cargo.
Guest:I think this is a huge part of the appeal of the movie.
Guest:What's that?
Guest:Showing people how to avoid the cops.
Guest:Like, I feel like this was, it's like, it reminded me of Stone Cold Steve Austin.
Guest:Like, it's like, why was Stone Cold Steve Austin popular?
Guest:He showed like the regular working man how to say fuck you to your boss.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Right?
Guest:And that's like, nobody's actually going to do that.
Guest:Nobody's going to kick their boss in the balls and give him a stunner.
Guest:But also no one's going to try to outrun the cops by driving like through like a bank or whatever it is he does.
Guest:Hiding out behind a building with the car and then looking at the camera and smiling.
Marc:Holy shit.
Guest:But like I feel like that is like a good 60 percent of the appeal of the movie is like, yeah, we're going to we're going to outrace the cops.
Guest:Yes.
Marc:Yeah, totally.
Marc:And also Snowman is doing some math on like what some calculator on his dashboard.
Marc:What the hell was that?
Marc:Oh, wasn't it because of the CBs?
Marc:Oh, was that?
Marc:No.
Marc:So they have this whole conversation about CBs.
Marc:It's like out of the wire.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:And it goes on for minutes and it never comes to fruition.
Marc:You're never like, okay, well, he said go to channel 12.
Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:They never needed to tell you any of this.
Guest:because it never i was expecting it to come up yes something like they forgot the code yes and and and and uh and and sheriff justice winds up hearing something that they didn't want him to hear nope that never happens never happens whatsoever no but i guess the math he's doing on the dashboard is just mileage right he's trying to figure out how far they've gone plus the time that's elapsed so how much how right how fast they need to go to get
Guest:You know, because I believe if I'm remembering the numbers right, it's like 900 miles there, 900 miles back.
Guest:And they got to do it in 28 hours, I think, is the weird time frame of the movie.
Marc:Right.
Marc:And which is even weirder because at the very end, they're asked to do another job that is just absolutely impossible.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Right.
Guest:The driving to Boston.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Which I didn't know.
Guest:You're like, I've never seen Smokey and the Bandit, so I've never seen Smokey and the Bandit 2.
Guest:I was wondering if it's one of those movies that takes place right after the first one ends.
Guest:And is the whole movie about them driving to Boston to get clam chowder?
Marc:That would be awesome.
Guest:It is apparently not.
Guest:And everything I read about smoking the bandit too, is that it's no good.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:But so yes.
Guest:So now here's the thing.
Guest:Once they're off and running, you only have, there's now one more plot element we haven't talked about.
Guest:And then after that, there's nothing more to say.
Guest:It's just the rest of it.
Guest:It's just the chase.
Guest:So he is driving and he's, you know, you're seeing how good he is as this blocker or whatever.
Guest:And then the one thing that hangs him up is the fact that there is a van
Guest:as a car broken down on the side of the road and a bride standing in the middle of the road this car that says just married and everything on it and uh he does a little spin move to avoid hitting her and she jumps in the car with him and this is sally field uh playing not smoky but uh eventually she is called frog oh right weird uh attempt because i want a jumper yeah yeah yeah yeah boy things were different yeah
Guest:But Sally Field, yes.
Guest:Also, another person coming off of, you know, lots of television.
Guest:No, not as a movie star.
Guest:And, like, I think people younger than us, definitely, and I would think even some people our age, forget how...
Guest:distinct those two camps were you were either a tv actor or a movie actor it was it was not common to cross paths and so if you went from tv to a movie you had like one shot at that
Guest:Like, you better make a big hit.
Guest:And apparently that's why Sally Field made this movie, was she was told, like, you got to be in something popular if you want to have a movie career.
Guest:And the studio wouldn't, shocker, wouldn't allow it because they didn't think she was hot enough.
Guest:Huh.
Guest:So like, but, uh, Burt Reynolds was the one who insisted.
Guest:He was like, no, no, gotta be her.
Guest:And he was the guy making, making the movie.
Guest:It's also ridiculous.
Guest:What do, what did they want?
Guest:Like what?
Guest:I guess they wanted Ann Margaret or something like, I mean,
Marc:They wanted the Dukes.
Marc:I mean, I guess at the time there was no Dukes of Hazzard.
Guest:Dukes of Hazzard.
Guest:But no, it's probably probably like an Anne Margaret type, because I'm thinking about like Anne Margaret was in those kind of movies.
Guest:Right.
Guest:She was in that one with Joe Namath, CC and company.
Guest:But yeah.
Guest:So Sally Field is now in the car with him.
Guest:And again, you think it's going to be more complicated than it is.
Guest:But no, she just was she she got kind of hoodwinked into getting married to this guy because she was she's like a, you know, a vagabond in and out of towns trying to get work as a dancer.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And she gets betrothed to the son of a sheriff.
Guest:Right.
Guest:in texas and decides i don't want to do this and is is bailing on it and so now the sheriff and the son of the sheriff are in pursuit again you keep thinking like oh it's going to be though that like beaufort t justice he's like he's trying to crack down on these bootleggers and now it's crossed pat nope right no just he's chasing her right yeah so now the bandit has her so now he's chasing the bandit mm-hmm
Marc:And by the way, the sheriff, we're talking about Sally Field's character and she's dancing.
Marc:And at one point he says, and her knockers are bouncing.
Marc:And I was like, we're talking about Sally Field here, right?
Guest:Yeah, it was all weird.
Guest:But I mean, him, he's representing the studio right there, right?
Guest:He's like, I want her to be really hot.
Marc:He's like Tom Cruise's character from Tropic Thunder.
Guest:Yes, exactly.
Marc:Yeah, totally.
Guest:uh yeah so that and then then you're off to mostly the rest of the way stunts yeah you know it's it's these chases and it's going over bridges and uh ways to skid from one side of the highway to the other then there were all these things along the way too that you're like oh that's gonna fuck them up nope doesn't fuck them up nope at one point uh cletus stops
Guest:at a at a a bar that's at a truck stop it's like almost like a speakeasy and he gets the shit beat out of him because a dog bites a guy there and you're like oh this is gonna be the thing that hangs them up he can't get the truck there in time nope he drags himself into the truck bloody and the only thing this is is a setup for him to run over motorcycles and
Marc:Yes.
Marc:No other reason, but I want to run over some motorcycles.
Guest:Which got me thinking, made me think, was this like a declaration?
Marc:Against Easy Rider?
Marc:Exactly.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Like, was this like these trucker movies and the Southern good old boys being like, uh-uh, we're taking over.
Guest:We're done.
Guest:We've had almost 10 years of this motorcycle shit.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Totally.
Marc:That's what I thought as well.
Guest:uh and it keeps going like this and then you know like i said you brought up the ferris bueller thing i kept thinking through the rest of this movie it's almost like the wizard of oz like it's this magical south where these little imps keep helping him throughout the way and there's all these like these these little clever like capers that they that they arrange like oh well we got a convoy going bandit why don't you just slip in here and they like use the convoy to block a cop which is very clever oh yeah it's great
Guest:And then there's like some group of CB-ers.
Guest:They don't have trucks, but they're on CB.
Guest:And they're hanging out at like a restaurant, a drive-thru.
Marc:Real American graffiti shit, you know?
Guest:Yeah, total American graffiti.
Guest:And then, oh, you got to go help the band.
Guest:They had a name for it, too.
Guest:We're going to do like a chuck and plow or something.
Marc:I forget what it was.
Marc:Some move that they all know of.
Guest:They knew it right away.
Marc:That they do all the time to divert the cops.
Guest:By the way, the funeral, the funeral figured out how to divert him.
Guest:This funeral, there's a dead person.
Guest:These people should be grieving, but they see the Trans Am, which he just got, by the way.
Guest:Right.
Guest:They make a very distinct point that that's a brand new car that Bigginess and Liliness gave him.
Mm-hmm.
Guest:but still everybody keeps seeing him drive by and they're like, that's the bandit.
Guest:Maybe they know his hat.
Marc:Maybe.
Guest:Uh, and he drives by this funeral procession and one of the guys in the front hearse is like, that's the bandit.
Guest:And he gets on a CB and he's like, bandit, I know you, man, I want to help you out.
Guest:And he drives the funeral, funeral procession in front of the sheriff.
Guest:It's, it's like all these little magical things happening to him throughout his way.
Guest:Uh,
Guest:And you buy it the whole time.
Marc:Yeah, even the old lady.
Marc:There's an old lady that helps him at some point.
Marc:Because she crashed her car.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Everyone loves the bandit.
Marc:It hates the cops.
Guest:I also love that that guy in the funeral, in the hearse,
Guest:again like owes to the the like diy improv nature of this uh of this movie they cut to him as you see that you see the trucks coming you see the cars coming by yeah and you you see where there's you know gonna they're gonna wind up coming into contact with this funeral procession and then it cuts into the front seat of this car and mid conversation he
Guest:This guy says to the guy driving the car, yeah, I don't know, man, that's the way I want to go out.
Guest:I was like, wait, I want to hear that conversation.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Jumping off my nervous.
Marc:Yeah, yeah.
Marc:By the way, the entire time this movie is playing...
Marc:The glue to this movie, in my opinion, is the soundtrack.
Marc:There's Eastbound and Down, which I know of from Eastbound and Down, I suppose.
Marc:But this song is such a catchy song.
Marc:I've been humming it all day.
Marc:It is just in my life now.
Guest:Yeah, written for the movie by Cletus.
Marc:Did it win?
Marc:I say this unironically.
Marc:Did it win Best Song at the Oscars?
Guest:No, I believe the only nomination for this movie was Editing.
Marc:Huh.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:But I got to say, got robbed.
Marc:That is a great song for a movie.
Guest:Well, it became a big hit song.
Guest:Jerry Reed, who was a singer prior to this film and a recording artist, this was his most popular song, owing to the fact that the movie was huge.
Guest:And yeah, it was, I mean...
Guest:It's the same with the Dukes of Hazzard though, right?
Guest:Like you got like Waylon Jennings, you know?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:This movie is so, because the formula is right there as well.
Marc:It's like, oh, you got two bumbling cops.
Marc:You got the two boys and you got the girl.
Marc:It's, you know, Dukes of Hazzard.
Guest:This was, I guess, also like the beginning of like CB hobbyists.
Marc:Which, by the way, is so fun.
Marc:Have you ever had a CB radio show?
Guest:No, no, no.
Guest:Never have.
Marc:Oh, man.
Marc:I had a CB in my dad's like duster.
Marc:We had a CB radio.
Marc:And when we went on like Boy Scout trips, we would have like a huge convoy and we would be on the CB radio.
Marc:And it was a blast.
Guest:Yeah, I imagine so.
Guest:How could that not be fun?
Marc:Yeah, but I wonder if we all, like, all the code names were, like, from this movie.
Marc:Like, I wonder if there was someone who was the bandit, you know?
Marc:You mean, like, people that you heard on the CBs?
Marc:Well, yeah, you know, everyone has their, like, the bandit is his call name, right?
Guest:Right, so it's Snowman.
Marc:Yeah, yeah, Snowman, right?
Marc:So, like, I wonder what people today, because CB radios are still a thing, I think.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:So I wonder what people's code names are now.
Guest:Well, that was so funny.
Guest:At the end of this movie, we, you know, we sat there in the theater, watched it all the way through and they did, it does that thing.
Guest:The movies in like the seventies and I think the eighties used to do, I remember it, uh, was that once the credits are over a little MPAA thing comes up and says what the movie was rated.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And this came up and it said, PG.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:i was like i was like hey matt my you know a friend who i saw the movie was i was like you could have brought lillian this is rated pg and he was like she'd be like dad can my handle be smiling beaver which yes was one of the women's handles in this movie just crazy shit
Marc:There was a scene where Sally Field is in the passenger seat and Burt Reynolds is, you know, driving and all these trucks are going by, or he's going by all these trucks.
Marc:And Sally Field is like, hey, you know, all these truckers can see inside our car.
Marc:And Burt Reynolds says, that's why I like to drive them trucks.
Marc:Spot those beavers.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:What the hell?
Marc:What the hell does that mean?
Marc:i couldn't figure it out because they're high they're up high right like if anything like they could see down her shirt maybe but like what are we talking about i i i was as perplexed as you and it i can't remember the next five minutes of the movie because i was like what
Guest:How is that happening?
Marc:Right.
Marc:So what I need everyone to stop the movie and explain it to me right now.
Guest:Yeah, well, again, owing to the nature of this movie, like being written on the spot, you know, like that they're on set making all these.
Guest:You know what else I noticed?
Guest:Basically, every person who crashes a car or gets like flipped off a motorcycle into the swamp or whatever.
Guest:they are then allowed to have a joke.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Every single one of them had like, like somebody drives by and it's like, Oh, are you okay?
Guest:And they get up and not a, one of them has a funny joke.
Guest:There are no jokes that are memorable in them.
Guest:And that again, owing to like writing the thing on the spot, but it did make me think like, Oh, that's gotta be because how need them is like, these are all things.
Guest:Like the people who make these movies, right?
Guest:The movies you all love are because of guys like me who bust our ass to do these stunts.
Guest:And I would like to give these guys a moment.
Guest:Yeah, like a little curtain call.
Marc:Exactly.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And I think one of them, when he goes off the pier and he's climbing out of the car, he's like, oh, I don't remember that turn being there.
Marc:And I'm just like, okay, that's fine.
Marc:And I forget what Evel Knievel says, but he has a little moment there as well.
Guest:He had something where he was in the drink.
Guest:Yeah.
Yeah.
Guest:All of that being said, I don't know if it was a scripted line that, you know, one of the people who actually wrote the screenplay wrote and it's left in there or if it was something they came up with on the set.
Guest:But like I said, there are actual lines of dialogue in this movie that...
Guest:And you're like, that's pretty good.
Guest:And the whole like you already mentioned, I think like a big appeal of this movie was like the the rebel devil may care attitude of it.
Guest:Right.
Guest:But also, I think like we were in 1977, you have the southern president for the, you know, for the first time in a long time.
Guest:And the country definitely like dealing with a lot of change, social change and whatever, and people not understanding each other.
Guest:And they have that moment where they're walking and she's like, do you know Elton John?
Guest:And he's like, no, do you know Merle Haggard?
Guest:No, you know, right.
Guest:The things they don't have in common with each other.
Guest:And he says, when you tell somebody something, it depends on what part of the country you're standing in as to just how dumb you are.
Guest:And I was like, man, that is... And she says, you have a nice way of cutting through the bullshit.
Guest:Like, that's her response to that.
Guest:But I'm like...
Guest:like some, whoever wrote that, that's a, that's a nice little note about our cultural issues that persist to this day, that it's like the, like geographically things are different and you can have a different kind of smarts,
Guest:depending on what state you're in versus like where we are right now, you know?
Guest:And, uh, and the, the thing that I always thought, and this is just from not even having seen the movie, but now I think it even more.
Guest:I always thought that the color coding of blue States and red States, which wasn't a thing until like the 2000 election, um,
Guest:I always was convinced that whoever first started that was a Smokey and the Bandit fan.
Guest:Why?
Guest:Because she's wearing a solid blue shirt and he's wearing a solid red shirt.
Marc:Oh, that's interesting.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I like that was the only frame of reference I really had for this movie was like, you know, country mouse, city mouse.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Like that's that's what this was.
Guest:And I like, you know, I totally could just be a coincidence.
Guest:I'll tell you what I don't think is a coincidence.
Guest:What's that?
Guest:All right.
Guest:Burt Reynolds is in this movie.
Guest:Sure is.
Guest:No disputing that.
Guest:Who do we know that we've talked about on this show many times is a big fan of Burt Reynolds.
Guest:Quentin Tarantino.
Guest:Oh, right.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So Quentin Tarantino is obviously a fan of Burt Reynolds.
Right.
Guest:He wanted him to be, right?
Guest:He wanted him to be.
Guest:Well, he did a lot of the research for Once Upon a Time in Hollywood by talking to Bert, and then he was cast as George Spahn, the part that Bruce Dern winds up playing, because Bert died before he could shoot it.
Guest:There are multiple shots in this movie with feet on the windshield.
Marc:You think this is the origin story to Quentin Tarantino?
Marc:100%.
Guest:I, I, I, I bet you a truckload of beer from Texarkana that it is the origin of Quentin Tarantino's foot thing.
Marc:Holy shit.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Cause she's dancing on the, uh, on the, on the, uh, dashboard or whatever it is.
Marc:So many times.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:The windshield.
Guest:There's a time where she got the leg hanging out the window.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It just, it, it, uh, it set my radar off.
Guest:Let's put it that way.
Marc:Oh, by the way, the stunts in this movie are fantastic.
Guest:Of course.
Guest:It's one of those things where you're like, oh, I wouldn't expect any less.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And there's the stunt, though, where Sally Field is supposed to be driving and she drives onto a baseball field, which was fun.
Marc:And did you spot the stunt double that was behind the wheel?
Guest:Well, I definitely could tell it was a stunt double, but I didn't notice anything particular about it.
Marc:Oh, it was just like, it was just a very bad wig.
Guest:The wig really flops.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:The most impressive part of that stunt though, and it's totally unnecessary, but like, it's exactly the kind of thing you could do when you're making this, when the director is like a world-class stunt man who knows other guys who are like, he knows everything about how to do these stunts.
Guest:He knows who's the best at which thing, right?
Guest:When the, right before the car crashes through, uh,
Guest:No, it's, it's, is it, is it this stunt?
Guest:It's not this stunt.
Guest:What is it?
Guest:The mailboxes?
Guest:It's the, no, it's the, um, it's at the end when the truck crashes through the gate of the, uh, rodeo land.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So there's a wooden gate there and two guys standing in front of the gate.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:They're just, they're hanging out.
Guest:They're there until the very last second.
Guest:Split second.
Marc:They both bolt and before the truck hits it.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And I'm like, that was not a camera trick.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Like they like the closest thing you could do to a trick there is have them is use a forced perspective.
Guest:So the truck looks closer to that thing than it is.
Guest:And then you speed up the frames for when they run away.
Guest:But.
Guest:It's not like that truck could have stopped.
Guest:Right.
Guest:It's not like it's not it's not like a cut and then start it up again and have it break through once the guys are clear.
Guest:They were not clear when that truck is barreling toward them.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:That was wild.
Marc:Like that was that was a trust exercise.
Guest:I.
Guest:I think about it all the time, especially we've talked about that other Burt Reynolds movie where the guy did the stunt falling off the building.
Guest:And that guy ultimately did die on an on set stunt, just a kind of standard car stunt that he got killed during.
Guest:And it was something I thought of with Darby last week when he mentioned that, like they told him going up the Everest, when you set foot on this mountain, you have to be okay with dying on the mountain.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And that if you're not, you just don't do this.
Guest:I really feel like that's the thing of stunt performers.
Guest:They have to be okay with that being the thing that might be it for them.
Guest:Yeah, 100%.
Marc:Also, another thing that was dated in this movie, what was the bandit going 110 miles per hour?
Marc:No seatbelts to be found.
Marc:Not one seatbelt.
Marc:Folks, it is a shock that we're all alive at this point.
Guest:I don't think there's a seatbelt in the whole movie.
Marc:No, they don't exist back then.
Marc:I remember my dad had a 64 Caddy that didn't have any seatbelts.
Marc:He was driving it around like it was just a thing.
Guest:Well, you know, I found it to be very satisfying.
Guest:I think it was probably even better for me in the fact that I had never really watched it before.
Guest:Yeah, it had a it had a better feel to it than if I, you know, came to it after having like seen bits and pieces of it on television.
Guest:Although apparently and I was thinking this while I was watching this, I was like, this used to be on TV a lot.
Guest:Like, I definitely remember like it would it would be something I would avoid.
Guest:Like, yes, what's on TV today?
Guest:Oh, Smokey and the Bandit.
Guest:I'm not watching that.
Marc:Can we just say, let me pause right there for a second, because we never knew what was on TV.
Marc:We had to look in a book.
Marc:Yeah, yeah, the book.
Marc:That we all subscribed to somehow.
Guest:Yeah, the Bible.
Marc:Goddamn Gideons.
Marc:But like, it's unbelievable that TV Guide was a fixture in all of our households.
Marc:And we had to flip through to see, oh, Smoking the Bandits on Channel 11.
Guest:It was the highest circulated magazine in America.
Marc:Of course it was.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Everybody, everybody needed it.
Marc:It's like the phone book, which, which was a thing as well to kids today who do not know what that is, but yeah.
Guest:Well, so when I was watching it this time thinking there's a lot of salty language in this, like what did, what did they do for this?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:What's the TV appropriate version?
Guest:Well, apparently like, you know, a lot of things back then they shot versions of every scene that had, you know, a language you could use on airplanes and television.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:But Jackie Gleason did not do that for his scenes.
Guest:I don't know if it was like a schedule thing or whatever.
Guest:So his scenes actually have to be dubbed.
Marc:Oh, no kidding.
Guest:And he calls people some bitch through the whole movie.
Guest:And you couldn't have that on TV, right?
Guest:So the word was changed to scumbum.
Guest:Scumbum.
Guest:In the TV edit, but Jackie Gleason was not available to do the dubbing.
Guest:So if you watch this on TV and you heard Buford T. Justice say scumbum, that was actually Henry Corden, the voice of Fred Flintstone.
Yeah.
Marc:No kidding.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:The guy screaming Wilma is the guy doing scumbum.
Marc:What is it?
Marc:Scumbum.
Marc:Scumbum.
Marc:Ah, that's great.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:What a get.
Marc:By the way, I saw this before seeing, I saw F1 in the movie theaters.
Guest:Oh, wow.
Marc:Yeah, yeah.
Marc:And that was a fun time.
Marc:And it was a movie theater where the seats move and stuff.
Marc:Yeah, how was that?
Marc:I mean, honestly, it's like watching a movie while...
Marc:you know, you're sitting on one of those like sharper image.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:I always thought to myself, it seemed like it would probably be more annoying than cool.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:It was, it was fine.
Marc:And then it was like, okay, I'm kind of done.
Marc:I'm done.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:But anyway, but F1 though, super fun.
Marc:You should see it in the theater.
Marc:It is, it is a really fun, it's like days of thunder too.
Marc:You know, it is, it is a fun time.
Guest:The trailers do not shy away from making it look exactly like Top Gun Maverick.
Guest:And they do everything they can to tell you that Top Gun Maverick people are involved in the making of it.
Marc:Yeah, they remind you the hell out of it.
Marc:And it's based on the same exact plot, but with cars.
Marc:And I am here for it.
Marc:It is delightful.
Guest:Well, I know it was weird to take some time out and talk about Smokey and the Bandit, but I will say we are not the only people came away enjoying this film.
Guest:In fact, someone enjoyed this film so much that his daughter says it was his favorite film.
Guest:Oh, who?
Guest:Alfred Hitchcock.
Guest:What?
Guest:Yes, indeed.
Guest:Alfred Hitchcock, when he was alive, had been known to say that he really enjoyed Smokey and the Bandit.
Guest:And at some thing, you know, where his daughter was speaking, she said, that was my dad's favorite movie.
Guest:No shit.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:That's awesome.
Guest:Which happens all the time.
Guest:Like there's, there's all these great stories about like Stanley Kubrick.
Guest:Like he loves like true lies.
Guest:Like apparently James Cameron made some pilgrimage out to see him and all Stanley Kubrick would talk to him about was true lies.
Guest:Like he was like, can you tell me I did this?
Marc:I love that.
Marc:That makes him more human in a way and not a fictional sort of directing guy.
Guest:Well, it also kind of validated my feeling of coming out of this movie the other day and being like, I was pretty good.
Marc:Yeah, totally.
Marc:Totally.
Marc:That's awesome.
Guest:Well, next week, because of the production schedule that we're under here, I am going to have to do what I've done for the WTF bonus feed and put together a collection of sorts.
Guest:But I found a really great way to do a collection of Friday show episodes coming up.
Guest:And it's basically you and me, Chris, explaining the news.
Guest:I'll just leave it like that.
Guest:It's Chris and Brendan explain the news.
Marc:I always enjoy that segment.
Guest:That will be your Friday show collection next week.
Guest:Then we will be back the week after that.
Guest:And until that time, I am Brendan and that is Chris.
Peace.