BONUS The Friday Show - When It Comes Crashing Down
Marc:Did he text anyone else?
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:I mean, obviously he tried to text AAA and it wasn't fast enough for him.
Guest:I love that they actually wound up coming, though, too.
Guest:So fast.
Guest:And pretty quickly.
Guest:Yeah, right.
Guest:In Albuquerque.
Guest:Hey, Chris.
Guest:Why, hello, Brendan.
Guest:You know, I don't necessarily want to open up this show by speaking ill of the dead.
Guest:Oh.
Guest:But I figure, you know, we've only got a couple months left of this.
Guest:And for your sake, I feel like I should open the floor to you as one of your profound lifelong targets of ire.
Guest:has slipped this mortal coil, and I'm talking about Hulk Hogan.
Guest:Oh.
Marc:Oh, you want me to talk about that?
Marc:The floor is yours.
Marc:Oh.
Marc:Well, thank you, Brandon.
Marc:That's so very sweet of you.
Marc:Well, I mean, I guess if I could say one thing, I'd say, Well, let me tell you something, brother!
Guest:The first thing that all these little Hulkamaniacs and Hulk Hogan need to realize is that when you started being a piece of shit, brother, I was going to take it all the way to the end until I completely wiped out Hulkamania.
Guest:What you got to realize is I'm going to torch his legacy, brother.
Guest:And all he did was put more fuel on the fire.
Guest:Gave me more ammunition to fight this thing all the way to the end.
Guest:When you started the war of being a complete scumbag.
Guest:A self-serving, politicking, union-busting, complete racist...
Guest:You don't even rule your own destiny now.
Guest:It's in my hands, brother.
Guest:What you didn't realize is that this is the real new world order, brother.
Guest:Your legacy, like your soul, will be wiped off the face of the earth.
Guest:I hope you ate your vitamins and said your prayers before the lights went out on you for good, brother.
Guest:What you gonna do, Hogan, when we all piss on your grave and run wild on you?
Guest:Oh, my God.
Guest:This is not a video podcast.
Guest:And Chris still ripped his shirt off.
Guest:I have one question.
Guest:Just one.
Guest:Oh, what's that?
Guest:You know, that's wonderful.
Guest:My question is, we didn't talk about this ahead of time.
Guest:What would have happened if I didn't bring that up?
Yeah.
Guest:Like, you would have just kept that in the chamber?
Guest:You would have done it for Aaron at dinner tonight?
Guest:Yes.
Guest:How would that have gone?
Marc:You know, theater is always loved in this household, so I feel like she would have enjoyed it quite, quite well.
Guest:Well, look, I'm glad that we were on the same page there.
Guest:Well, maybe not.
Guest:I don't think I was on your exact page there.
Marc:Yeah, please.
Guest:That was something.
Yeah.
Guest:uh hulk hogan has died or i should say terry gene bolea the man who played hulk hogan uh died of a heart attack after it seems after surgery complications uh age 71 and um a lot of people might think this is being like crass or crude and we've talked about hulk hogan on this show a lot and chris chris's lifelong dislike of hulk hogan going back to when he was a kid and of course that was like the hulk hogan character but
Guest:But we've learned a lot about Hulk Hogan, the man, or Terry Bollea, the man.
Guest:And it's not just about him being a Trumper and being at the Republican National Convention or that Tony Hinchcliffe rally at MSG.
Guest:Doesn't help.
Guest:Yeah, that stuff is... But that's like...
Guest:icing on the cake.
Guest:Like, like you said, he was exposed as a known racist, uh, recorded saying some really terrible things.
Guest:Um, uh, the thing that I always remember, like the first thing that jumped out to me when, uh, I first like learned about, uh,
Guest:the guys behind the wrestling characters was that Hulk Hogan prevented wrestling from unionizing.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:That, that, uh, there was like one shot at it and it was WrestleMania two and Jesse Ventura was like the guy who was, was spearheading it.
Guest:And he was like, now's our chance.
Guest:Like if we, if we don't do this, uh,
Guest:You know, we're never going to do it.
Guest:And we can hold this show hostage and just refuse to give our labor until they meet our demands.
Guest:And Hogan ratted him out to Vince McMahon because he wanted to protect his spot on top.
Guest:And that basically was the defining trait of the rest of his career.
Guest:He was always politicking to protect himself.
Guest:But I did want to say this.
Hmm.
Guest:I think not unlike Vince McMahon or Bing Crosby or any other of the numerous pieces of shit in entertainment, he was excellent at his job.
Guest:So like, that's like...
Guest:I watched the naked gun and OJ is very funny in it.
Guest:So like, I feel like that's okay to say, and it's equally okay to be like Hulk Hogan was, first of all, the most famous professional wrestler to ever live.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:And also absolutely one of on account on one hand, the best people to ever do it.
Guest:And I don't mean like his moves or something sucked as a wrestler.
Guest:Yeah, but that was like irrelevant.
Guest:Like I would, you know, anybody who would go and watch a Hulk Hogan match today, particularly like from his prime of like mid 80s Hulkamania, you will see a guy doing the role of professional wrestler.
Guest:better than anyone else.
Guest:And like, if you want an answer as to why like somebody like me in my middle age still like watches this stuff and thinks it's enjoyable, like that's a good answer.
Guest:Like that guy doing his job as well as he did is,
Guest:translated what the job of pro wrestler was to a kid, to a viewer in a way that was a template for the rest of my life to go like, Oh, that's what you're supposed to do.
Guest:That's how you sell.
Guest:That's how you get the crowd on your side.
Guest:That's what timing is in that job.
Guest:He had great timing.
Guest:Like, like that's, that's a underrated trait.
Guest:If you watch those, you know, matches where it was always like Hulk Hogan against like the big monster and,
Guest:He was great at knowing exactly when to make the comeback.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And just to get the audience right in the spot where they were demanding it happen, and then boom, it would happen.
Guest:So good at that.
Guest:And just so good at showing...
Guest:vulnerability like it's weird if you go back and watch like he is literally he'll get hit by somebody and he is like crawling commando style on his stomach and like reaching out to like jesus or someone like and like with like crying on his face it's really good like he was good at that so i i mean we we
Guest:Chris's promo can exist on its own.
Guest:And the actual appreciation of Hulk Hogan as a entertainer, I think, like I said, is going to be true of any entertainer that has a sordid backstory, a sordid life.
Guest:And yeah, that's that.
Guest:I mean, that's probably, you know, a lot of people's main entry point to pro wrestling.
Guest:Particularly if you listen to the show and you heard us talk about wrestling and you never knew anything about what we were talking about.
Guest:You knew Hulk Hogan.
Guest:hogan yeah 100 and you know what he was he cut a good promo you know he always cut a great promo like very he was a creative guy he was smart about like how to communicate and how like you know like i'm serious he was great at his job but you know chris jericho who we had on the show uh with mark uh when we did the wrestling thing
Guest:He said he thinks Hogan was one of the best like workers in the history of the business.
Guest:And like he was comparing him to like someone like Ric Flair.
Guest:And everybody thinks like, well, that's no comparison.
Guest:Ric Flair was a better wrestler.
Guest:And Jericho's like, yes, true.
Guest:But Hogan was a better worker.
Guest:Right.
Guest:He...
Guest:got the idea of what you're supposed to communicate as a pro wrestler better than pretty much anybody.
Guest:And, and yeah, I, I, I don't need to eulogize Hulk Hogan, but I will make the mention that a lot of this stuff that we watched for most of our lives was owed, you know, you know, strong debt to the style that Hulk Hogan propagated.
Marc:And he, look, he, he put over the, the sport of professional wrestling, you know, and,
Marc:Yeah, I mean, I guess that's the thing.
Guest:It's like these two guys, Hulk Hogan and Vince McMahon, just two scum of the earth guys for a profession that's fairly disreputable and juvenile, right?
Guest:Like, well, they get all the credit, right?
Guest:And to me personally...
Guest:I'm thankful that like there are people currently who are kind of more of my mentality that appreciated what was interesting or engaging about it as a, as an entertainment.
Guest:And they moved forward with it from that point of view, not from the point of view of like the backstage politics, protecting your spot, you know, killing the guys underneath you, making sure you're the only one that made money.
Guest:I mean, this idea of like marks, right?
Guest:That's what they call like, you know, wrestling fans who believe that it's real or whatever.
Guest:But honestly, like they called them marks because they wanted to take their money.
Guest:That was it.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And these guys back then, they thought like anybody that likes this stuff is a mark.
Guest:They are stupid and we're going to steal from them, basically.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And...
Guest:These guys brought wrestling into a spot where it became like Saturday morning cartoons.
Guest:It was literally a Saturday morning cartoon.
Guest:They had one of those and comic books and anything like that.
Guest:It is a thing today, I would say probably like 50% because of Hulk Hogan.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:Agreed.
Marc:Agreed.
Guest:I can still feel great that he is no longer here.
Guest:Well, I got to tell you, I felt good for you, pal, because I thought like before we end this thing, I knew I didn't know you were going to go all out and tear your shirt off.
Guest:But I did feel like, man, we're going to end this show.
Guest:And I would like one of three things to happen for Chris so that he can take a victory lap.
Guest:And one would be Hulk Hogan dies.
Guest:Two would be Donald Trump dies.
Guest:And three would be the Park Slope food co-op burns to the ground.
Marc:It's basically like, unfortunately, the Vince McMahon meme of me losing my mind and falling over my chair.
Marc:Those three things?
Guest:Oh, like, oh my God, please.
Guest:Wait, by the way, don't burn the Park Slope food co-op to the ground.
Guest:Oh, yes, yes.
Guest:Brand caller, bag caller.
Damn.
Guest:Don't do that.
Guest:Anyone listening to this, please don't do that.
Marc:Satire, satire.
Marc:Man, when I woke up and South Park was all over my social media and I then saw why South Park was on my social media, dude,
Marc:I thought I just had the best cup of coffee in my entire life.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:What a treat.
Guest:Honestly, honest to God, I said this and I do not mean it facetiously.
Guest:It's not ironic.
Guest:I think those guys are great Americans.
Guest:They did something important for America.
Guest:Because what is a functioning democracy if you can't make fun of the people in charge?
Guest:Exactly.
Guest:It's nothing.
Guest:And to do it in the face of...
Guest:They're the corporation that just paid them $1.5 billion.
Guest:And, and to like call the corporation out by name on the show as, as, as chickens and like, and just to do this whole episode where it was like, do not be afraid of this guy.
Guest:In fact, let's call him out all the time, make fun of his little dick, you know, like whatever you want to do, you can do it.
Guest:Cause that's the country we live in.
Guest:And like, yeah,
Guest:Look, I get it.
Guest:Like, tomorrow they might decide to, you know, completely go back on that and make fun of something that's, like, you know, anti-Trump or whatever.
Guest:Like, because that's who they are.
Guest:They're fuckers, right?
Guest:They fuck with things.
Guest:But that's good.
Guest:Like, you need people fucking with things in society.
Guest:They need to fuck with power, particularly if the power has a fascist bent.
Guest:And I was so, like, thrilled.
Guest:You were like, give those guys the Medal of Freedom.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It's like, yeah, who's going to do it though?
Guest:The president does that.
Marc:That would be a great, that would be a great moment to have them in the White House for it.
Marc:You know, but it's all about punching up, right?
Marc:That's what these fucking Trumpers don't really understand.
Marc:Like they're all trying to punch down.
Marc:They're all like, oh, we can say the R word now.
Marc:And like, oh, we can do all this other stuff.
Marc:Like they're punching down.
Marc:And what these guys- They like being cruel.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:That's not a bug.
Marc:That's a feature.
Marc:Right.
Marc:They want it.
Marc:And the fact that these guys were like, fuck this shit.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:Man, it makes me feel reinvigorated.
Marc:I really was feeling, I didn't realize I was feeling depressed.
Marc:about all this shit until someone actually did this and you know you know trey and matt did this and man i feel reinvigorated like i really feel like okay i can go another 12 rounds with this shit like because with with allies like that like i'm i'm i'm down you know we can just make fun of these motherfuckers because that's what we need to do we need to make fun of them
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And he, everyone, right?
Guest:Like that's the thing.
Guest:Everyone should take a lead from this.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:And because this is the thing that's going to drive him fucking nuts.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Like, like not, you know, oh, these politicians didn't vote for my bill.
Marc:This stuff will unravel him.
Marc:He does not like being made fun of.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:And let's just all make fun of him.
Yeah.
Guest:Well, yeah.
Guest:So to me, it was a very great thing to wake up to.
Guest:And, you know, there has not been a lot of great stuff in the world and in the news.
Guest:But I will say I was very lucky to basically have almost two weeks where I paid zero attention to any of it.
Guest:Amazing.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I'm not sure if anyone listening to this is actually aware of the fact that the past few episodes that you've been hearing on here and elsewhere on the WTF feed were recorded well in advance.
Guest:In fact, the production schedule from before I left, like I basically did all of July up to last Monday in advance.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So like since the Mariska Hargitay episode, that was all shifted up like two weeks prior.
Guest:And so I was just working in advance so that by the time I left for vacation, which was on July 8th, I had everything done.
Guest:I cannot...
Guest:remember what happens when like I had my whole schedule written out I knew where I was slotting everything but like we did that episode with Darby Allen I don't remember when that was and like you know I was looking at the list of WTF episodes I was like oh
Guest:that guy was on during the time I was away?
Guest:I thought that was on like last June.
Guest:Like I've totally no sense of that stuff.
Guest:So if there's anything you need to catch me up on, please feel free because I was deliberately unplugged and enjoying myself while on vacation.
Marc:Excellent.
Marc:And I guess I'll ask you how your vacation was after we catch you up on the news.
Marc:Oh, okay, great.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah, because I don't want to belabor it.
Marc:But yes, let's hear what we got to go into here.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:So while you were on vacation eating pasta in the homeland, Coldplay is actually on tour.
Marc:And now usually...
Marc:Usually people attending a Coldplay concert, that's their rock bottom.
Marc:But for one person while you were away, it got much worse from there.
Marc:So Coldplay was performing at Foxborough in Massachusetts and their cameras would routinely showcase people on the Jumbotron.
Guest:And it's like a kiss cam, right?
Guest:They do it with couples.
Guest:Yes.
Marc:Yes, it's a kiss cam.
Marc:Chris Martin's, you know, tickling the ivories while he's looking at the couples on screen.
Marc:And that's when the camera caught an older couple hugging romantically, swaying to the music.
Marc:And that's when all hell broke loose.
Marc:The couple freaked the fuck out about being shown and quickly tried to hide from the camera like cockroaches when you turn on the light.
Marc:Well, they hid their faces so quickly because the couple are not an official couple.
Marc:They were both having an affair on their respective spouses.
Marc:Add to that, they were identified as co-workers and
Marc:Not only co-workers, but the CEO and head of HR for a company named Astronomer.
Marc:Now, this was, I've seen things go viral.
Marc:This went like jet fuel super viral.
Guest:I mean, so viral that it was on newspapers in Italy.
Guest:No kidding.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:Like it was a viral thing that jumped into print.
Guest:Amazing.
Guest:Amazing.
Marc:Yeah, absolutely amazing.
Marc:Well, the man, Andy Byron, he was the CEO of this astronomer company, basically blew up his life as he was forced to resign from the company.
Marc:And of course, his wife was not too pleased about this.
Marc:She allegedly issued a statement saying she's disappointed in her husband's love for Coldplay and his life choices, of course.
Marc:So...
Marc:That went viral and the ensuing mockery, like it was just so easy to.
Guest:Oh, everybody loves AI now, I guess.
Marc:Yes, everyone loves it because they were making AI versions of this.
Marc:There was Hulk Hogan and Miss Elizabeth.
Marc:There was the guy, the blow up doll from Airplane and the Stewardess.
Guest:Oh, yes.
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Which ones have you seen?
Guest:I mean, I think I've mostly seen people taking athletes or faces of people who should be rivals and putting them together.
Guest:I will say, I find the whole thing a little distasteful.
Guest:It's like...
Guest:who the fuck's business was this?
Guest:And it's like the world is like literally the world.
Guest:I was, I was on the other side of the ocean and people knew about this story.
Guest:And I'm like, like who fucking deserves to know this?
Guest:And like, not only deserves to know it, but it's like to have it be like a major thing that everybody's paying attention to.
Guest:I mean, I get it.
Guest:I get the interest level in it, but it is a scary thing about the idea that like,
Guest:cameras are everywhere and like you know i don't mean the camera at the coldplay concert i mean the fact that people were videoing this with their phones and that's why it went viral right like it's not like some feed from the concert got leaked it's just people with their cell phones right yeah and like so there's some like you know uncomfortable surveillance culture thing going on there i also i just can't like i wanted to shake these two people
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Why did the guy go down like he was shot?
Guest:Right.
Marc:Also, just act cool.
Guest:Kiss the lady on the lips.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Then no one will see your face and no one will ever, ever put this anywhere.
Marc:Yes, because it wasn't them.
Marc:You know, like you only look, you know, you're recording because at the off chance that the camera is going to get to you, you know?
Guest:Yes, right.
Marc:And like, if they just played it cool, they...
Marc:This would not even be a story.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Whoever was the first person to post that was like, I don't know what happened here, but some guy hit the deck.
Guest:Like, do you think the first person to post that knew that was the CEO of Astronomer?
Guest:I don't even know what the fuck that is.
Guest:I mean, when I I'm I'm not kidding.
Guest:When I saw the headline.
Guest:I saw it said astronomer, and I missed the part that said CEO, and it said his name.
Guest:I was like, astronomers are fucking celebrities now?
Guest:When did this happen?
Guest:Is this because of Oppenheimer or something?
Guest:We're venerating scientists again?
Guest:That's a good story.
Guest:Italy is so weird.
Guest:It's the birthplace of a lot of this stuff, I guess.
Guest:But I don't know.
Guest:I was just like...
Guest:I was uncomfortable by how fast the, like, virality of it happened.
Guest:Yes.
Marc:Yeah, it was very, very quick.
Marc:And I actually saw a, not a viral, but an AI-generated photo from the same ilk.
Marc:Did you get that in your text?
Guest:Yes, it's Marc Maron hugging Jon Stewart.
Yeah.
Marc:And they're both shocked.
Guest:Which I have to say, the Jon Stewart one looks very much like him.
Guest:The Mark one's weird.
Guest:It's like Robert Downey got his nose broken or something.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:Yes, it's all smooth.
Marc:It's like he got punched in the nose.
Marc:But yeah.
Marc:Look, it's hard for me to feel bad because A, it is the CEO and the head of HR.
Marc:Those two people I've never liked.
Marc:Uh, no matter where.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:No matter where.
Marc:So the fact that we can take them down a peg, sign me the fuck up.
Marc:Uh, also again, going to the punching up thing, like that's the other thing is that we're, we're just punching up and look, I'm not, I'm not saying we need to do these things to CEOs every year, which seems to happen by the way.
Marc:You know, there was the guy in New York.
Guest:That was a little worse, Chris.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:I mean, yeah.
Marc:If a six of you know, no, that one was worse.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:But but like, you know, maybe don't cheat.
Marc:And then this whole thing would.
Guest:I don't I don't like you, me and no one is allowed to have a moral judgment on these people cheating.
Guest:Like that's that's bullshit.
Guest:But but OK, the idea that like the boss got taken down a peg.
Guest:Fine.
Guest:I can get I can get there with you on that.
Marc:yeah okay okay so okay so you didn't miss that uh you might have missed um so you guys had well i guess you didn't miss but you guys had a scars guard on your show recently uh yes i'll be honest with you when when mark started talking to uh who is it alexander alexander yeah yeah
Marc:I didn't know which Skarsgård this was.
Marc:Is it the guy from Andor?
Marc:Is it the guy from Presumed Innocent?
Marc:Nope, it's a guy from Murderbot.
Marc:Well, another Skarsgård was in the news while you were away, and that was Stellan Skarsgård.
Guest:His dad.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:While at a film festival, he said that Ingmar Bergman was a Nazi and cried when Hitler died.
Guest:Which...
Guest:Alexander brought up that he would bring him to this place and make him be in the Ingmar Bergman place.
Marc:Yes, yes.
Marc:So he says, Bergman was manipulative.
Marc:He was a Nazi during the war and the only person I know who cried when Hitler died.
Marc:We kept excusing him, but I have a feeling he had a very weird outlook on other people.
Guest:Oh, you think so, doctor?
Yeah.
Marc:He wasn't nice.
Marc:Oh, really?
Marc:A Nazi wasn't nice?
Guest:What?
Guest:That's kind of part of the deal.
Marc:So uncharacteristic of Nazis.
Guest:It's like, unless you're Christoph Waltz, I don't think any of them are nice.
Guest:That one's very charming.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:So, yeah.
Marc:So that happened.
Marc:And, you know, it's interesting.
Marc:The people, the bedfellows we keep.
Marc:So, yeah.
Marc:So I guess you didn't miss that while you were gone.
Guest:I wasn't sure where it happened or what.
Guest:I did see a little blurb that said Ingmar Bergman cried when Hitler died.
Yeah.
Marc:It's such a funny sentence.
Marc:Good Lord.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:Another story you probably missed.
Marc:I'm going to say because this one didn't really like have mainstream attention.
Marc:But a Superman movie, a new Superman movie flew into movie theaters while you were away.
Marc:That's not the story.
Marc:Although if you thought I was not going to shoehorn Superman into this segment where I get full control of the conversation, you don't know me very well, Brendan.
Marc:I knew you would do that.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:So our new Superman, David Cornswit, went on a British show called The Royal Court.
Marc:And he was asked for a movie hot take.
Marc:And he offered up his Star Wars watch order.
Marc:And I wanted to bring it up to you.
Marc:He says he would suggest watching A New Hope, then Empire, then episodes one through three.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And then Return to Return of the Jedi.
Yeah.
Guest:Well, this is a nerd thing that this is actually like a standard ordering.
Guest:Oh, really?
Guest:He's not the only one to say this.
Guest:I didn't know it that he said this, but this is a standard thing.
Guest:And I actually believe there's an argument within this...
Guest:the nerd community that says this is the way to watch the order of of things that they say just eliminate the phantom menace you don't even need it oh interesting yeah so then you go you go four five two three six oh that's interesting but but then you're missing out on liam neeson and who cares he never comes back
Guest:You literally never see him again.
Guest:He just becomes a name you've heard of.
Marc:But you're missing the point of Quiguan, whatever his name was.
Marc:He went against all of these Jedis to be like, no, no, no.
Marc:I get it.
Marc:He's old.
Marc:He's an older kid, but I will train him to be a Jedi.
Marc:I'll take it as my responsibility.
Marc:And then he gets murked.
Marc:And now it's Obi-Wan.
Marc:It's like, all right, I guess I'll take you in because that guy was my master.
Marc:And Obi-Wan's just not up for the challenge, you know?
Marc:Like, that's like the crux of the whole Star War is that Obi-Wan...
Marc:Really shouldn't have been that guy's master to begin with.
Guest:Well, I don't know that it's Obi-Wan's fault.
Guest:It's the other guy's fault for taking on a thing that the other Jedi's told him not to do.
Marc:But if he didn't die at the hands of Darth Maul, maybe it goes a different way.
Marc:I don't know.
Marc:Maybe not.
Guest:Maybe he sucks even worse than Obi-Wan at bringing the kid up.
Marc:It's true.
Marc:It's true.
Marc:But I like this order and I'm going to try it one of these days.
Marc:It's definitely something I'm going to try to do.
Guest:Oh, it will not be something I try to do.
Guest:No.
Guest:I don't think I ever need to watch all of the Star Wars movies ever again in my life.
Guest:I'm...
Guest:I'm past the halfway point of when I'm supposed to die.
Guest:Right.
Guest:I can't do it again.
Guest:Like these are movies for children and I, and we all love them.
Guest:God bless.
Guest:But like, I can't do, I can't do these six movies one more time in my life.
Guest:I've got too much.
Marc:There's too much other stuff.
Marc:I mean, I still have nieces and nephews that are not old enough to watch it.
Marc:So I feel like I have like one more in the chamber, you know?
Marc:Yeah, right.
Marc:So I don't know.
Marc:For the other generation, I'm in.
Marc:I'm trying it.
Marc:All right.
Guest:I would also, I would not be opposed to like some kind of like...
Guest:you know movie series at a theater where you get to do this over a period of time but uh but yeah i'm not gonna be plug i'm not gonna be firing up my uh my dvds of uh of the star wars saga you own those though isn't that crazy it's like oh look i have these things that i'll never i own the i own the theatrical releases of the original trilogy that's pretty great
Guest:Yeah, it is great because that's the ones I raised my son on.
Guest:He watched the non-special edition ones.
Guest:Has he ever seen the special edition ones?
Guest:Yeah, and he doesn't care.
Guest:He's not like, that's worse or that's better.
Guest:He's just like, oh, they put stuff in it.
Marc:Yeah, whatever.
Marc:Gotcha.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:All right.
Marc:Well, those are the news stories.
Marc:I'll save you from hearing about the AT&T commercial lady signing up for OnlyFans.
Marc:You can research that on your own.
Marc:I believe I will.
Yeah.
Marc:So yeah, that's all the news I have for you, my friend.
Marc:It's been quite a time.
Marc:I have to ask you what it must have been like for you to come back from vacation and have Mark's intro be about...
Marc:him locking the keys to his car in his rental car with frozen ice cream in the backseat and him trying to smash the window with a rock.
Marc:Like what would take me through?
Marc:Cause, cause, cause for me, I feel like you, your face must've been like, um, like JT real moved to, uh, a couple of years ago, he had a reaction to a reliever being brought in where he was just the catcher from the Phillies.
Marc:Yes, the catch up in the fields where he was just bewildered and just shaking his head.
Marc:What was your reaction to that intro?
Guest:Well, I actually got that bit of info before hearing the intro because I was in Mark's newsletter, you know, his email blast that goes out.
Guest:So that I was editing before hearing the intro.
Guest:Oh, okay.
Guest:But if you could see my face while I was reading that...
Guest:Like, I'm sure I didn't like... I'm sure my jaw didn't drop because I've seen worse.
Guest:But I definitely think my eyebrows were up for quite several paragraphs of it.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah, I was... It was...
Guest:unsettling that I went away for two weeks and was like, this is the greatest.
Guest:Like, I'm so ready for this.
Guest:I'm so ready for like my life to be moving in a different direction.
Guest:And, uh,
Guest:you know, I'm going to embrace this.
Guest:This was like a great way to like, see like, um, with family and stuff's important here and stuff's not important here.
Guest:And this is, it was just great.
Guest:And then to come back and Mark, the first text I got from, from him when, uh, when I had landed at JFK airport was, uh, he's, he, there was a text that said you back, uh,
Guest:And it was, you know, sent from hours before I landed, but I didn't want the Wi-Fi on the plane.
Guest:So I just, you know, got it when I landed.
Guest:So I wrote, just landed.
Guest:All bright-eyed, bushy-tailed.
Guest:Yeah, he wrote, welcome back to hell.
Guest:And then he wrote, missed your pal, not going to be easy for me when it's over.
Guest:Hope you had a good time.
Marc:Oh, my God.
Guest:So, yeah, I mean, now, granted, I did talk to Mark after that and, like, clarified that, like...
Guest:He wasn't in a mental health crisis or anything, and it was manageable, right?
Guest:I did not know when I talked to him on the phone that he had the incident with the ice cream in the locked car.
Guest:He kept that one to himself until the next day when I got his email newsletter to edit and then heard the intro.
Guest:And...
Guest:You know, like, it's funny going through some stuff right now with, you know, past WTF things, looking at the old clips and that something was like brought to my attention.
Guest:Do you have clips of Mark, you know, from the early days?
Guest:And then something that would indicate like how he's changed or mellowed or whatever.
Guest:And I'm like, yeah, I do.
Guest:It's this or that.
Guest:I've got examples of things like that.
Guest:And yet hearing that story, it was very much like a case where if someone were to ask me that in that moment, I'd be like, nothing's changed.
Marc:Dude, but like this is the thing.
Marc:It's the oil and vinegar.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:It's like the balance of you two.
Marc:You have to get it right.
Guest:Yeah, exactly.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:And if one is lacking, you ruin it.
Marc:And it's like.
Guest:Well, quite frankly, that's why the show has to end.
Guest:Because you can't have one going.
Guest:Like if I came back from that trip all rejuvenated and I was like, Mark, fuck it, man.
Guest:I'm ready to go.
Guest:Let's do, you know, two, three more years of this show.
Guest:And he's got in his head that it's done.
Guest:Like it would never work.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So it's like it's going to be in tandem or not at all.
Marc:I worry about him, man.
Marc:Like, I don't know how he's going to fucking do this.
Marc:You know what, though?
Guest:I said this was what I said to him.
Guest:You know how there are these like I've never done one, but there are these extreme diets where you're supposed to like cut everything out.
Guest:No, no sugars, no processed foods, whatever.
Guest:And you're just it's like a whole food diet.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And they tell you when you do these things.
Guest:Like there's usually like a, you know, 30 day challenge or 28 day challenge.
Guest:Try to get through it.
Guest:And they tell you that it's like around day 10 or 11.
Guest:That's when it's really going to suck.
Guest:Right.
Guest:But if you power through that.
Guest:then you can do the 30 days easy.
Guest:And in fact, that's how they try to encourage people to stay on that type of diet for their life.
Guest:Have a full lifestyle change.
Guest:But it's that period of 10 or 11 days and the body goes into different phases, ketosis or whatever, and it's very, very hard to equalize.
Guest:Well, how many days was I fucking gone?
Guest:11 days.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:So I said to him, I was like, bro, you just have to push through, man.
Guest:Like you have to, like, I probably should have been gone for a month.
Guest:And then you could have seen how it was afterwards.
Guest:I mean, I couldn't have done that.
Guest:I would have had to been like working in advance three months ago.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:to get to that level.
Guest:But I, it was, it was, I don't want to say I had to talk him down from anything.
Guest:He's, you heard him on the thing.
Guest:He's like, he's, he's vocalizing this stuff, but overall he's fine.
Guest:He's not in a crisis.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:He's just, he's, he's, he's going through it.
Guest:That's it.
Guest:That's how you explain it.
Guest:It's, it's also, I said this to you the other day.
Guest:I'm like, this guy had all this stress and panic being in Albuquerque.
Guest:Hmm.
Guest:Whenever he's there, it's because of his dad, right?
Guest:Like he's there ostensibly because he's got to keep eyes on his dad.
Guest:He's got to show up for the family.
Guest:He's got to be there like if they need things signed or taken care of or whatever.
Guest:It's like he just goes and does that and never says anything about it.
Guest:He never says like...
Guest:Well, go back and listen to that monologue.
Guest:You didn't hear anything about his dad.
Guest:Nope.
Guest:And I honestly don't think anything was consciously there for him about his dad.
Guest:But you don't think that is psychically weighing on him when he's there?
Guest:The pressures of like, well, I'm watching this mortality episode and a life kind of slipping away.
Guest:That's so that's very close to me.
Guest:Like, that's tough.
Guest:That's tough for anyone.
Guest:And and I just don't think he's been there with it.
Guest:He hasn't processed it.
Guest:And it's going to continue to be a fucker.
Guest:until like the rubber meets the road on it right and and then on top of that is all this other shit like he's got a special coming out he's nervous about the special coming out he's got um you know uh and a movie that he made that hasn't been released yet and he's worried about how that's going to be received like so there's all this stuff that's just like not conscious and it's like
Marc:sublimated but what's at the surface is like that ice cream is sitting right fucking there and i can i could i could almost grab it but there's a glass window in the way so why don't i shatter it with a rock right well you know what's also not being said is you know and i you know i've had someone who has uh or had alzheimer's in my family and i when i can't find my fucking keys or something i'm like i don't know is this happening to me
Marc:Sure.
Marc:And that's the thing that's in the background probably for him.
Marc:It's like, oh my God, like I forgot my keys.
Marc:Like, oh, I forgot my ice cream in there.
Marc:Like, is this starting to happen to me?
Guest:Well, we were talking about it when we were talking about Bo is afraid, how he was like, I'm in the middle of this right now.
Guest:But this idea that the anxiety gets so ramped up that you just make everything real.
Guest:Everything you worry about then suddenly becomes a real possibility for you, you know?
Guest:Right.
Marc:Right.
Marc:So yeah, it's, it's, it's a lot.
Marc:It's a lot.
Marc:And I'm, he'll get through it.
Marc:I know he'll get through it.
Marc:It's just, it's just a process.
Marc:And I personally love Sarah Sherman.
Marc:I think she's great.
Marc:And it was just so, she's so charming and such a fun person.
Marc:So I really enjoyed that episode.
Marc:Did you have to like cut out a lot from that episode?
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:No, I don't think so.
Guest:I don't think I cut much at all.
Guest:I think, you know, the fun of that episode, I thought, was, which is, again, you know, going back to this idea that you can tell a difference from Mark from, like, when the show started to now.
Guest:Like...
Guest:I feel like in the past, if you had a guest who had some type of like reluctance about themselves or like how they were presenting themselves, he would get frustrated with that.
Guest:He would be like, you know, where am I going to go with this person?
Guest:With her, I thought it was very almost sweet with how he was like, you're interesting.
Guest:Just keep going.
Guest:There's a part where she was like, I don't know.
Guest:Do people find this interesting at all?
Guest:He was like, yes, you're interesting.
Guest:Let's keep going.
Guest:That was him knowing how he can steer these things, how he can keep it afloat.
Guest:There's a confidence to him in how he talks to people that wasn't always there, especially I hear it when I go back to older episodes.
Guest:I mean, I like going back and listening to some of these things, especially the ones I was listening to where it was like him in confrontations with people, whether it's Carlos or Dane Cook and that.
Guest:it's always surprising to me, like how little he actually cared about it being a show, right?
Guest:Like he did not have an audience in mind when he was talking to these people.
Guest:He just wanted to like, like hash it out with that.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And it was like here.
Guest:Oh, by the way, I recorded this, you know, like, yeah,
Guest:And then I did whatever I needed to do to make it an episode.
Guest:But like that is noticeable to me in the older episodes that like he had less of an awareness of the audience, which I don't know.
Guest:Some people might argue that's a better way of the show.
Guest:I mean, it's probably the popularity of the show owes a lot to that.
Guest:So I don't want to slight it.
Guest:And I think that, you know, some people might argue like, well, now that he's more aware of the audience, it's less obvious.
Guest:it's less firecracker, right?
Guest:There's less volatility to it.
Guest:And that might not be as appealing, but I don't know.
Guest:I see it as growth.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And look, for me with Sarah Sherman, when she was talking about the sleep tread, like constantly thinking about everything she ever did and think, you know, and like think you fucking idiot.
Marc:Dude, that's how I am.
Marc:Like when I go to bed, like,
Marc:Every single thing I said or didn't say, I think about it right before bed.
Marc:It's the weirdest thing.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:So I felt so, I don't know, I felt so good that someone as smart and as funny as her can also feel that same way.
Guest:I don't tend to linger on mistakes or embarrassments or anything like that.
Guest:No, you don't.
Guest:They happen and you deal with them.
Guest:But I do notice, I've noticed it for most of my life, that if I'm ever just like...
Guest:running through a train of thoughts and like something gets in there that then leads to a thing that happened that to me was like really embarrassing or unfortunate or like something I shouldn't have said or whatever.
Guest:When that thought goes through, like passes by the window in my brain and I, I can see it and, and, and feel it.
Guest:I talk out loud and,
Guest:Like I usually, like I'd be like, you just look at me and be watching me.
Guest:Maybe I'm like, you know, cleaning up in the kitchen or something and having a thought.
Guest:And when that thought comes in my brain, I go, oh no.
Guest:Or like, or like, oh boy, like just some, like, like involuntarily words come out.
Guest:Cause it's like, it's almost like my, my, my brain and body's way of like being like, let's get away from that.
Guest:it's funny you say that because i do the same thing except i'm like you dick why did you say that like i i will involuntarily be like you fucking moron see it's funny to me because i don't actually address the thing that's happening it's almost like it's like my my mouth just goes like like it just makes it's like a noise yeah to get that thing away right and
Marc:That's great.
Marc:We're so different, but so similar.
Marc:Dude, we've gone this long.
Marc:How was your vacation?
Marc:Was it a restful vacation?
Marc:Did you lock your keys in a car and have to put a gelato against the window?
Guest:I didn't.
Guest:I didn't.
Guest:I would go as far as to say it was a perfect vacation.
Guest:And I was in Rome and then I was in Tuscany and it was great.
Guest:I don't feel the need to like be a travel guide for you or anything like that.
Guest:I'll leave that to, you know, plenty of Rick Steves podcasts you could go listen to about Rome.
Guest:By the way, I love...
Guest:I love Rick Steves, not just for listening to the travel stuff.
Guest:I love anyone.
Guest:I love the name Rick Steves.
Guest:I love anyone who's got like two first names.
Guest:That's like one of my favorite things ever.
Marc:Ricky Bobby.
Marc:That's why Ricky Bobby is so good.
Guest:Remember when we, on Morning Sedition, Jim Earl, another two names.
Guest:But Jim Earl then did a character named Todd Brad, policy analyst.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And I was like, dude, I don't even care what the sketch is.
Guest:Todd Brad is already hilarious to me.
Guest:There was a guy on CNN for a while named Joe Johns.
Guest:He might as well have been Chris Rock.
Guest:Like, the funniest guy I ever saw.
Guest:Never said anything funny, but his name was Joe Johns, so I laughed uproariously every time I saw him.
Guest:So I love Rick Steves, and I don't need to do that right now.
Guest:But I will say, man...
Guest:There was a situation that happened before I left having to do with the show.
Guest:I will not get into it because it's, you know, one of those things that happen in confidence.
Guest:But I will say it was a situation with a guest that bummed me out so tremendously that I was like, like, it would have been the kind of thing where I was like,
Guest:if we had not already announced the ending of the show, I might've talked to Mark and been like, we should probably think about ending this because this kind of thing sucks.
Guest:And I, it's like, I'll put it right out where it is, where it needs to be and say no more about it.
Guest:It was one of those things where the culture that we live in of, you know, very kind of voyeuristic media tendencies ruined an episode of the show.
Guest:You will now never hear because yeah, because of, of, uh,
Guest:you know, external circumstances, nothing we did, but it was such a bummer.
Guest:And it happened like while I was in the midst of trying to, you know, put together several episodes all at once, lost this one episode.
Guest:And I was so fucking bummed and bummed about like what we do.
Guest:Like I was like,
Guest:why what's even the point man this is like horseshit this is our like final run and like this is this is to happen this is the kind of stuff that never used to happen too it happens now because things are just worse right right
Guest:It was very rejuvenating to go to Rome and be among a lot of ancient shit, but even like the non-ancient shit, like going to like the Uffizi Gallery in Florence.
Guest:Wow, that one's great.
Guest:Well, it is great, but there's a lot of masterworks in there, right?
Guest:You've got the Botticelli's and some Da Vinci's and it's a great, great collection.
Guest:One of the finest in the world.
Guest:But you know what else is in there?
Guest:Like thousands of portraits.
Guest:They're all aligning like the main gallery of Uffizi.
Guest:There's these portraits of nobles, you know, wealthy benefactors of the arts.
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:I was trying to count them.
Guest:I lost count at one point.
Guest:I'm like, there's just too many of these to count.
Guest:And they are way high up.
And...
Guest:No one looks at them.
Guest:Nope.
Guest:And no one cares.
Guest:And you've never heard of who painted them.
Guest:You've never heard of who the people are.
Guest:And it was very, very clarifying for me to be like, do not care about this shit.
Guest:Like, oh, we lost an episode.
Guest:So fucking what?
Guest:Right.
Guest:It's like, this is all going to be over soon.
Yeah.
Guest:Someone, you know, individual people in the world will have memories of this show, will have lasting feelings about this show for as long as they have them.
Guest:Not on me to say when they have them and when they don't.
Guest:And I play no part in it anymore.
Guest:It just happens without me.
Guest:I did my part and you don't have like this idea of worrying about being remembered or being or having things play out a certain way for your legacy.
Guest:So no, no, no, you did it.
Guest:Just like that guy did the painting and he put it up there and now nobody gives a shit about it.
Guest:That's going to happen to everybody.
Guest:So don't care about that stuff.
Guest:Take a deep breath.
Guest:Enjoy the things you've done.
Guest:Enjoy the things you've made.
Guest:Have a Coke and a smile and just move on with your fucking life.
Guest:And it was very, very helpful and clarifying for me.
Guest:And I did not have to throw a rock through a rental car window to get there.
Marc:That's great.
Marc:I mean, it goes to Lin-Manuel Miranda, like his legacy thing in Hamilton.
Marc:What is it?
Marc:Legacy.
Marc:What is a legacy?
Marc:It's planting seeds in a garden that you'll never get to see.
Marc:Sure.
Guest:But that's like the best case scenario, right?
Guest:That's Michelangelo's David, right?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like that's the, that's where you get, you know, Oh, the, the legacy there is like something that's still to this day, a giant gallery full of people were, you know, moved to, you know, all manner of emotions standing there looking at this statue.
Guest:But like most things don't get to that.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And like,
Guest:I can't spend one second of time worrying about that as it pertains to this show.
Guest:Like, we've done the job.
Guest:The job's done.
Guest:Go be whatever it is.
Guest:And, you know, I am grateful for having been able to do it.
Guest:I'm grateful for whatever anyone takes away from it.
Guest:And I don't care about the rest.
Marc:Wow.
Marc:You sound like a guy who has a belly full of satisfaction, you know, and you're turning the card to red, you know?
Guest:I had a belly full of a lot of stuff while I was there, man.
Guest:That is a dangerous place food-wise.
Guest:Although, I will say, I didn't really gain any weight or anything.
Guest:Like, I felt plenty of times.
Guest:Like, I did.
Guest:I felt, like, real soft in the middle.
Guest:But, like...
Guest:you know, and I could probably stand to do a little more exercise now that I'm back, but like, I don't know.
Guest:There's something about being in Europe that went, that like you eat a lot, but one of the differences is that like in between meals, you stop fucking eating.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like you move around and you're not shoving garbage into your face all the time.
Guest:There's also just something about like you pick up anything at a supermarket in, in, in Europe and you look at the ingredients and there's like five things.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:and you understand what they all are even if you don't speak the language like i pretty much get what that is yeah it's like we probably are in bad shape because of just the standard things that we eat on a given basis but like let me not go into the joe rogan verse here and yes
Guest:Get things down that path.
Guest:I will just say it was a very satisfying trip, but more so spiritually satisfying.
Guest:I feel very clean having come back from it.
Marc:That's great.
Marc:I'm happy you're rejuvenated.
Marc:I'm glad Mark has you back, honestly.
Marc:And yeah, looking forward to finishing this all up.
Guest:I did think if he...
Guest:If I was around and he had been able to text me when he locked the keys in the car, would he have tried to throw a rock?
Guest:I definitely had that thought.
Marc:I mean, did he text anyone else?
Marc:I don't know.
Guest:I mean, obviously he tried to text AAA and it wasn't fast enough for him.
Guest:I love that they actually wound up coming, though, too.
Guest:So fast.
Guest:And pretty quickly.
Guest:Yeah, right.
Guest:In Albuquerque, you know?
Guest:That's crazy.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Oh, I should mention this.
Guest:First of all, let me thank everyone who has been writing in.
Guest:Obviously, you've been writing in probably for several weeks that go back to, you know, episodes that happened, you know, three, four, five weeks ago.
Guest:And I was just kind of getting them now in real time because I just haven't been, you know, keeping up with that stuff.
Guest:So if you've sent in things, there's still a lot more that I'll have to sift through.
Guest:But I did notice this one was one of the more recent ones that came in.
Guest:And it was from David.
Guest:He said, enjoyed the Friday show review of Smokey and the Bandit.
Guest:Would like to add the CB radio itself was a main character of the movie.
Guest:And I thought this was interesting.
Guest:The early mid-1970s brought the fuel crisis, which created the boom of CB radios.
Guest:Truckers developed slang to discuss police speed trap locations.
Guest:The speed limits were reduced to 55 to save gas.
Guest:Truckers would also discuss where cheap gas could be found.
Guest:Mainly, truckers were using the radios at first.
Guest:But in 1975, when a huge hit song came out by C.W.
Guest:McCall called Convoy...
Guest:Sales for CB skyrocketed.
Guest:In fact, Radio Shack's profits doubled over the next few years because of CB sales.
Guest:At one point, approximately one in five Americans owned a CB.
Guest:Your dad apparently was one of them.
Guest:Many listened in and took part, whether on the road or sitting at home.
Guest:Learning the lingo was crucial and magazines and books were flying off the shelves of stores to help.
Guest:The radio being much faster than a transport or car enabled ordinary folks who started getting sucked into CB culture to take action just like in the movie.
Guest:This is where it goes back to our discussion because we were like, how did all these people know Bandit?
Guest:It's like Ferris Bueller.
Yeah.
Guest:The on-air discussion about Bandit driving across the stage would be today's equivalent of X or Twitter.
Guest:Sure, Bandit had a new car, but everyone would know and hope he was headed in their direction, either hoping to get a glimpse or better yet, be able to assist and start averting Smokey.
Guest:The movie was certainly a chase movie.
Guest:However, if you lived back then and watched...
Guest:The CB radio was also the main character.
Guest:Oh, and beaver in CB speak just meant a woman.
Guest:So, David, that was all fantastic.
Guest:Thank you for supplying that.
Guest:And really, it is honestly like a blind spot that we wouldn't have at our age.
Marc:Yeah, 100 percent.
Marc:It really filled in the blanks for us.
Guest:I also just wanted to let Sam know who wrote in saying he's back listening to some of the early episodes.
Guest:He heard episode 53 where I was on that episode because that was kind of like a little fund drive episode that we did.
Guest:We like, you know, had a bunch of comics on for like short 10 minute segments where Mark would call them and then we would like ask for your money because that was how we were making money back then.
Guest:You know, like, oh, if you like the show, you get a t-shirt if you send us 10 bucks, like that kind of thing.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And he wanted to know if I was on any other episodes.
Guest:Well, if you go back to like the first 11 episodes, those were the ones we did at like Air America.
Guest:I was in the room with Mark when we did that.
Guest:So he'd talk to me, you know, I'd interject or whatever.
Guest:It was like an old radio show.
Guest:In fact, Chris is on one of those.
Marc:That's right.
Guest:I think it's the one with, it might be with Jim Gaffigan.
Guest:But I mean, if you just look in those first six, those first 11 episodes, there's one that's like Mad Men talk with Chris.
Guest:Chris came on to talk about like the season finale of Mad Men that year.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:We were just still doing like radio segments.
Guest:It was not the show that you know now.
Marc:It's so funny to think about you guys just...
Marc:trying to figure it out and, like, just scraping by all this shit that you can just find.
Marc:Like, oh, it's got Chris.
Marc:He's the reason right outside.
Marc:Yes.
Marc:And, like, you know, this.
Marc:And, like, you guys just built this beautiful, you know, podcast.
Marc:It's wild.
Guest:Well, and then I definitely consciously did not ever really want to be featured on the show because, you know, as the show started to grow, I became aware of, like, the idea of the show was –
Guest:this guy in his garage by himself and um you know that that was part of the allure of it and it was better that you not even think about a producer you just think this is this one guy's thing it's a diy operation uh however i was on episode uh 614 that was after uh the barack obama episode and mark and i talked about how
Guest:Uh, it all came to be.
Guest:And then, um, I was Mark's guest on the 1000th episode where we just did a origin stuff about the show.
Guest:Frankly, if you subscribe here to the full Marin, you've, you've heard a lot of that stuff by now.
Guest:And when we, we've talked about, um, stuff that happened throughout the years, uh,
Guest:So, yes, Sam, that's that's a little advisory for you.
Guest:Advisory for I've seen several people writing in with a complaint about not getting the episode on any given week.
Guest:Now, maybe you're not getting them at all and you're not hearing this.
Guest:But if like you saw like in whatever podcast feed you were using that you didn't get it.
Guest:First of all, I would always say the best thing to do is just write to a cast support.
Guest:Support at ACAST.com.
Guest:They administer the WTF Plus feeds and they can help you with that.
Guest:What I will say, though, is that largely that is an error on whatever podcast capture app you're using.
Guest:It very rarely, if ever, happens on Apple Podcasts.
Guest:Apple Podcasts seems to be the most reliable for these subscription feeds.
Guest:I've never seen it not show up on the Apple Podcast app.
Guest:I have seen it not show up on several of the other ones I have on my phone just to monitor.
Guest:One of them is downcast.
Guest:One of them is overcast.
Guest:sometimes it gets a snag and usually what I have to do is just like uninstall the app and reinstall it.
Guest:And then boom, it's back there.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Or, or uninstall my WTF plus from the app and then reinstall that on the app, you know, with my, you know, sign out and sign in and it shows back up again.
Guest:But those are like app specific glitches that we really have no control over.
Guest:But, uh,
Guest:Overall, any tech problems, support at ACAST.com and they can help you out.
Guest:And I feel like that's my PSA for today.
Guest:That is not like the PSA in the South Park episode.
Guest:If you have not watched the recent South Park episode, please go do that.
Guest:I consider it an act of defiance.
Guest:You are helping to preserve American standards and the decency of speaking truth to power by watching South Park.
Guest:Yes, and also watch the new Superman movie.
Guest:It's really good.
Guest:You know, you have said that, and I know that you're a little... It's not like I'm going to Chris and saying, hey, what do you think of the new Superman movie?
Guest:And he's going to be like, meh, it's not great.
Guest:Like, no, no.
Guest:Chris is always going to love a Superman movie.
Guest:But...
Guest:I've heard other people, not just you saying it's very enjoyable.
Guest:So I think, I don't think this is your Superman bias speaking here.
Marc:Phew.
Marc:Thank God.
Marc:Cause like, you know, it very much might be.
Marc:Cause I just like, I see that guy, that Superman smile and dude, you know what happens?
Marc:I've seen it three times now.
Marc:I just smile right back at him as if he's like looking at me.
Marc:Like it is, it is this weird thing that I have.
Marc:I just, I just love that character.
Guest:And then you talk out loud.
Guest:You're like, you dick.
Yeah.
Marc:Absolutely.
Guest:All right.
Guest:Well, next week, as you as mentioned on earlier this week on the full Marin, Ari Aster, director of Eddington, is on Monday's show.
Guest:And as we speak, as I'm talking into this microphone, Mark is in California talking to Aquafina.
Guest:And that will be on next Thursday's show.
Guest:So some good stuff lined up for you next week.
Guest:And then we will be back here on Friday.
Guest:And until then, I'm Brendan.
Guest:And that's Chris.
Guest:Peace.