Episode 331 - Pauly Shore
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Guest:And it's also, eh, what the fuck?
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Guest:With Marc Maron.
Marc:Alright, let's do this.
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Marc:How are you?
Marc:It's Mark Maron.
Marc:This is WTF.
Marc:Thank you for tuning in.
Marc:I would like to express a sincere degree of concern and well wishes towards...
Marc:all of my fans and listeners on the east coast i hope you survived sandy i hope that the damage and distress was not uh so horrible i i i don't want to trivialize it at all i i definitely um empathize for what you're going through i've seen pictures it looks horrible uh and i just hope that you're getting through it okay it just looks awful and and it's scary and i know a lot of people are still
Marc:without power and very compromised.
Marc:And my heart goes out to you.
Marc:And I hope everything is at least turning around or as well as it could be in the midst of all that.
Marc:That being said, I didn't have a good Halloween.
Marc:I don't know what's happening.
Marc:I don't know what's happening to my cats.
Marc:The other day, the day before Halloween, Jessica found a tooth, a tooth on a chair where monkey sits.
Marc:It looked like an old tooth, almost like a fossilized front tooth of a cat or another animal.
Marc:It had a chunk of bone connected to it.
Marc:And I'm like, where the hell this come from?
Marc:I, of course, thought it was a sign, an indicator, some some spirit warning or some talisman brought in by La Fonda to indicate that Boomer was no longer with us, that I should get closure and and grieve him finally.
Marc:But then it just wasn't adding up.
Marc:Where do you just find a tooth with a chunk of bone hooked to it?
Marc:And I was like, could that be monkeys too?
Marc:And then like a day or two after we found it, yesterday, Halloween actually, I finally get monkey to sit still for two minutes and I look in his mouth, there's a big hole.
Marc:This tooth just fell out of his head.
Marc:And I don't know, maybe he had an infection.
Marc:I did some reading.
Marc:Perhaps that piece of bone is actually a root.
Marc:I guess cat's teeth fall out, but he seems fine-ish.
Marc:I guess I got to take him back to the vet.
Marc:I'm thinking maybe this is what was making him sick before.
Marc:Perhaps he had an infection.
Marc:He's not throwing up now, but a tooth fell out of his head.
Marc:I'm not going to freak out about it.
Marc:He seems okay.
Marc:I don't understand why it looked like a piece of a skull was connected to it.
Marc:I don't know, but it was a scary Halloween because of that.
Marc:Pow, look out.
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Marc:Hadn't done that in a while.
Marc:Pauly Shore is on the show today.
Marc:The scion of comedy.
Marc:I just wanted to use that word.
Marc:I think I'm using it properly.
Marc:I knew Pauly when he first started out because I was a doorman at the comedy store and he was just this weird, annoying son of the owner who walked around in a getup, sort of pseudo surfer getup.
Marc:This is pre his hook.
Marc:We'll talk to him a bit about that, see where we go, see where that goes.
Marc:Halloween.
Marc:No good.
Marc:No good.
Marc:My tooth fell out of my cat's head.
Marc:One of them's gone.
Marc:One of them's falling apart.
Marc:The only one that's doing well, it seems, is that horrendous stray cat who's getting fat out there.
Marc:Fucking tooth fell right there on the chair.
Marc:Just a tooth.
Marc:I guess things fall out.
Marc:Things break down.
Marc:Once again, for the 10th year in a row, however long I've lived here, for the 8th year in a row, not one fucking trick-or-treater.
Marc:And I'll tell you what, kids, you can go fuck yourselves because I'm sitting, now I'm left holding a bag of candy.
Marc:I went out the last minute.
Marc:Just always, I want to be prepared.
Marc:So I bought a big old bag of candy that had some Whoppers in it, which I don't love.
Marc:Had Kit Kats, which are good.
Marc:Milk Dud's okay.
Marc:It was just the last thing they had at the drugstore.
Marc:I got it on the way home, just in case.
Marc:This year was not like every other year.
Marc:I kept my pants on until around nine.
Marc:I wasn't wandering around in my boxers.
Marc:Didn't want to scare the kids like that.
Marc:Nothing.
Marc:No kids.
Marc:So needless to say, I've eaten my share of Milk Duds and Whoppers today, and all I can say is, fuck you, Candy.
Marc:Fuck you.
Marc:Now what do I do?
Marc:Halloween's never been my holiday.
Marc:Don't have any great memories of Halloween.
Marc:I remember many years ago, I made some bad choices.
Marc:Halloween so I think some racist choices actually when I was in high school I I'll admit to this I don't think I don't think I meant anything bad by it but maybe I did maybe I shouldn't even be talking about it but I remember one time me and my buddy Dave in for Halloween dressed up as Mexicans
Marc:But I didn't mean it in a bad way.
Marc:I didn't mean, you know, it wasn't like we were wearing sombreros or anything.
Marc:It just I just modeled it after the dudes that were hanging around school, just like, you know, short leather jackets and bell bottoms.
Marc:And it was it was pretty impeccable.
Marc:I did it.
Marc:I'm not I don't.
Marc:But I don't know what I was thinking.
Marc:I don't think I meant it in a derogatory way because I sort of basically based on this guy, Vince Baca.
Marc:I don't know why I thought that was a good idea.
Marc:I thought I did a great job with it.
Marc:But in retrospect, it was probably distasteful.
Marc:And certainly through the lens of what we live in now, it was wrong.
Marc:Because I remember there was a Halloween party at my friend Dave's house.
Marc:And his parents were having it.
Marc:And we were in costume.
Marc:We came in.
Marc:And we were like, hey.
Marc:And there was some Latino people there.
Marc:And they were like, what are you dressed up as?
Marc:And we're like, we're Chicano guys.
Marc:But general, I don't feel like there's anything really derogatory about it.
Marc:And they didn't look happy.
Marc:It was a mistake.
Marc:And I apologize to Latinos everywhere for that mistake I made as a sophomore in high school.
Marc:But we did go to a party and we passed, by the way.
Marc:Some people didn't realize it was us.
Marc:But wrong, obviously, in retrospect, horribly wrong.
Marc:Did a lot of damage, I'm sure.
Marc:But there was the one Halloween I remember my roommate Lance and myself, Lance Mayan, who is now a chef.
Marc:He's an executive chef.
Marc:And I remember we didn't really have a plan.
Marc:There was always that.
Marc:It's Halloween day and it's like, what are we gonna wear?
Marc:What are we gonna dress as?
Marc:We need to go to this party.
Marc:We need to at least look like we put some effort into transforming ourselves into something that would reveal some deeper damage, I've always felt.
Marc:Something, you gotta do something.
Marc:And I remember we had a bag of mushrooms and there was a party we needed to go to as a costume party.
Marc:And we were sort of in a scramble.
Marc:I believe we had taken the mushrooms and then we decided maybe we should wear costumes of some kind.
Marc:We ended up just throwing together.
Marc:I think we cut our sleeves off of a couple of button up shirts.
Marc:We wore jeans and some boots.
Marc:And I think we we went as I think it was a general rockabilly costume.
Marc:But in retrospect, I think we probably just look like a fairly up to date gay couple at that time.
Marc:But we were tripping balls, and we'd go to this party, and people were like, what are you?
Marc:And we're like, we're rockabilly, I guess, is what we are.
Marc:We got boring.
Marc:We were tripping.
Marc:People were wearing costumes, and we started to wander.
Marc:And we ended up somehow in the basement of the apartment building, and they were doing some construction down there because there was a lot of ducts, you know, like...
Marc:It looked like the stuff, the piping that they use for vents, you know, the large round duct pipes.
Marc:And then there were a couple of the bends, the elbow joints of large duct pipes.
Marc:I don't know what you call that, ventilator piping or whatever.
Marc:And I remember we put these on our head.
Marc:So we had these corners of this duct on our head.
Marc:So it looked like we were wearing spaceman outfit and we were hysterical laughing.
Marc:tripping with elbow ducks on our head just running around the basement by ourselves laughing our asses off on mushrooms couldn't have been funnier i have no recollection of it but i know there was that a lot of laughing like to the point where you you know you're keeled over with laughter wearing these ducked elbows on our head and we had no idea someone had pulled the fire alarm i don't know how we couldn't have heard it
Marc:But all I know is we were laughing and running around in our helmets, our space helmets, and real firemen came down.
Marc:And...
Marc:And they were shocked.
Marc:We looked at them and they looked at us and they were there to service a fire alarm.
Marc:We were there to trip balls and laugh.
Marc:And there was that moment where like we knew like these these are real firemen.
Marc:And we have these these these pipes on our head.
Marc:And they looked at us and we laughed.
Marc:But there was that moment where like, you know, how do you declare yourself?
Marc:We're we're tripping rockabilly spacemen that look kind of gay.
Marc:And you guys are real firemen.
Marc:We should just go out now.
Marc:And I remember that we're defeated yet tripped out moment, you know, where you get busted.
Marc:But you're not in trouble, but you feel embarrassed, but you're tripping.
Marc:And like within seconds, the embarrassment is just completely consumed by laughter.
Marc:That is the beauty of being high when embarrassment is consumed by laughter.
Marc:Jesus, that's also, God, that's the entire reason I do comedy.
Marc:I think we've landed upon something.
Marc:Happy Halloween or two days after, whatever.
Marc:Fuck candy.
Marc:Throw it away before you hurt yourself or enjoy it if you're capable of that.
Marc:Please, at any turn, if you can, let laughter consume your embarrassment.
Marc:Let's talk to Pauly Shore.
Marc:Folly Shore is in the garage.
Marc:This is a monumental event.
Marc:So, all right, so when I first met you, I was a doorman at the store, and in my mind... Well, how old are you?
Guest:You're 44?
Guest:48.
Guest:Oh, okay, 48.
Marc:So that would have been 1987, and in my mind, you had just started doing comedy, kind of, right?
Yeah.
Guest:Well, yeah, I mean, I remember, you know, first of all, you know, like, you know, for me to see you and just... Because obviously, I mean, you came in the... Like, I've been there my whole life.
Guest:Right.
Guest:I was 72, but I'm just saying from... That's why I said the last time I saw you at the store, I was really happy for you.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I mean, generally, because I'm really... I know how long you've been doing this and you have this show and I just...
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:It's just like cool for me to know that this is happening for you.
Guest:So I don't know what's going to happen with this show, but just the fact that people are talking about it.
Marc:That I'm not Mark Goldstein?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:No, no.
Guest:Because when you first came around, it was like you came at a time when I was like probably 18 or 17 or something.
Marc:It was pre-Weasel.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:You were still doing like Surfer Guy.
Marc:Right?
Marc:The hat, wearing the hat and the shorts and gnarly.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:No, it was way... Yeah, it was way... You were just trying to figure the whole thing out.
Guest:And I remember... But you were... What?
Guest:No, but I remember you just because you were so into drugs.
Guest:I mean, you were.
Guest:You were really... But you didn't know.
Guest:Like, I thought you were... I thought you were...
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:I just thought you were just some kid.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:I didn't know what was going on with you.
Marc:I was some kid.
Marc:I was like 21 years old.
Marc:And I thought that I was like... I'd just gotten out of college.
Marc:And I thought I had a handle on how much drugs I could do.
Marc:And I met all those motherfuckers.
Marc:But I remember one time when all the shit was hitting the fan.
Guest:And Bill Kennison was trying to... He walked up to me and said, you're trying to take my brother with you?
Guest:Like I was a fucking problem?
Guest:And then you came up to me and you're like...
Guest:What are you doing up there?
Guest:No, it was magic.
Guest:Hey, brother.
Guest:Yeah, magic.
Guest:Hey, brother.
Guest:The drug dealer.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:But yeah, I just remember seeing, you know what I mean?
Guest:You're around, I guess around my age, but you were- How old are you?
Guest:I'm 44.
Guest:So I was only like that, four years older than you?
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:But it was cool.
Guest:It was just like-
Guest:But we were also obsessed with Sam, let's be honest.
Guest:But you weren't initially.
Guest:Well, yeah, I was because when I first saw him was probably way before you saw him because it was the Comedy Store in Westwood.
Marc:You were a kid, yeah.
Guest:No, but it was Westwood.
Marc:But were you doing comedy yet?
Guest:No, I was a short order cook at the Comedy Store in Westwood.
Marc:So you're working for your mom at the Comedy Store in Westwood?
Guest:Yeah, because I was a good cook and I wanted to cook and I wanted to make some money.
Marc:Are you a good cook?
Marc:I'm a very good cook, yeah.
Marc:You just have a knack for it?
Mm-hmm.
Marc:All right, so you're working at Westwood.
Guest:Yeah, and that's where I first saw him is when he came out with Carl and then Mitchell Walters was there and Joey Gaynor and all those guys were at the Comedy Store in Westwood.
Marc:Didn't Sam manage that place?
Guest:He managed to fuck it up.
Guest:No.
Marc:Didn't he save your mom's life?
Guest:did he save my mom's life like i heard that like argus was choking your mom oh yeah there was probably some of those stories yeah you don't know those you were a kid you're gonna take the i was a kid defense on that one you know alan stevens was the only guy i remember doing um like la jolla with the guy yeah he was the only guy that would do like a huge line of coke and then go okay now i'm going to sleep yeah like literally like he could just it was normal
Marc:But he was the guy also that had the Coke that he did and the Coke that he turned people on to.
Guest:Oh, that's hysterical.
Guest:He had two cups.
Guest:Yeah, so that's when I first saw Sam, and I was a short order cook there, and I used to feed him.
Guest:I always had extra food.
Guest:I mean, he finished.
Marc:Wasn't he sleeping at the club?
Guest:Yeah, I would let him sleep on the stage.
Guest:I would literally leave the door open for him and he would just sleep on the stage.
Guest:He likes sleeping on the floor.
Guest:But I remember the first time I saw you is when he started going more to the store on Sunset because the Westwood, as you know, was kind of like- By the time I got there.
Marc:Oh, the Westwood store was closed.
Marc:Wow, interesting.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:So he was doing the Monday night thing at the- Right.
Marc:At the store, yeah.
Marc:Sunset, yeah.
Marc:And I was hanging around, and I remember you showed up, and you were like, well, that's Mitzi's son, and I'm like, oh, he's doing a surfer thing.
Marc:And then I was up in the office once, and here's what I remember about you.
Marc:Who was the office?
Marc:My mom.
Marc:It was George.
Marc:Who was the little guy that used to book?
Marc:Remember the little dude?
Marc:He was almost like a little person.
Marc:Was his name George?
Marc:Or like he was some weird little- No, there's been so many.
Marc:So many bookers, right, but it was in his office, and your headshot was up there, and it was one of those composite shots.
Marc:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Marc:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:With the little short order cook hat on.
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:That was, I was so excited to get in the entertainment business.
Guest:It's like.
Guest:I was literally.
Guest:The composite shot.
Guest:But I was so excited.
Guest:I mean, it was like when I first, I mean, I had a purple Jeep and I had my headshots and I was handing them out to people.
Marc:Yeah, I remember the Jeep.
Marc:I was just excited.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:But I mean, how does it all start?
Marc:I mean, where do you, like, okay, so, I mean, from what you know, you still get along with your dad, right?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And how's your mom doing?
Guest:she's all right dude it's i mean i everyone everyone you know has different opinions about how she's doing some people oh i saw her she looks great it's like no i i don't think she's great great yeah you know what i mean i mean she's had parkinson's for a long time and and it's just you know it's one of those diseases that just slowly just deteriorates you and for me i i hate seeing her that way because i see i always saw her kind of has a everyone else saw her which is just you know rocking and rolling right and it's yeah it's terrible do you how often do you go up there
Guest:Almost every day.
Guest:Oh, really?
Guest:I mean, I almost stopped by every day just to check on her, yeah.
Guest:Is she cognizant?
Guest:Pretty much, but kind of like, if I said, Mom, this is Mark, you know, he was at the store, she'd probably say, oh, hey.
Guest:Right.
Guest:But then if you said, yo, who's the president?
Guest:She'd be purple.
Yeah.
Guest:Like, mom, it's not purple.
Guest:But then she said that a long time ago, too.
Guest:So I don't know.
Guest:You know, I don't know.
Guest:I mean, I think that I think that inside she's OK, but it's hard for her to.
Guest:I mean, I don't know if you know anyone that has had this before, but it's fucking it's so bad, dude.
Guest:It's so because you can see like in her mind she wants to say something, but her mouth just doesn't doesn't come out.
Marc:It's so bad.
Guest:And someone's up there taking care of her.
Guest:Yeah, she's got – no, no, we just leave her alone.
Guest:Get me off the floor, you piece of shit.
Guest:You'll be okay, Mom.
Guest:You'll be all right.
Marc:Throw some food on the floor.
Guest:Right, right, exactly.
Marc:Oh, God.
Marc:I know.
Marc:It's fucked up.
Marc:Well, I'm sorry.
Marc:I'm glad you hear that.
Marc:Because I always wonder, you know, because Tommy's making the schedule over there, and I made this joke.
Marc:I said, you know, Mitzi's not even talking anymore.
Marc:He doesn't even go up there.
Marc:Yeah, because he's always saying, like, oh, no, she wants you to go on number nine.
Guest:And I'm like, she doesn't.
Guest:No, she doesn't.
Guest:It's like, do you even talk to her?
Guest:You know, but Tommy's been amazing just as far as dealing with her and the whole... Well, he seems to really get the whole mythology of the story.
Marc:He wants to honor the history of the place.
Guest:Yeah, he's, I don't know, because I'd been there with him probably when he said that to her about you.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:And so he's not, he's really genuine and he's really trying to keep her involved as much.
Guest:I was just making a joke.
Guest:No, no, I know, but just keep her involved as much as she can't can be.
Marc:What's your earliest memories of the store?
Marc:Do you remember your folks breaking up and the fight and all that shit?
Guest:yeah i remember well it's it's the 40 year anniversary this year so it's been 40 years i'm 44 so i've been there since i was four right um so hanging around it looks the same dude i know it's fucking the same you don't have to tell me about it so to me it's like the same it's just the same fucking place no matter how many people have come in they're trying to change it
Marc:yeah no it's just the same it's like an old mitt you know yeah well i have this this weird vision that like you know someone comes in and tries to take down the pictures and they go back the next day and they're all back up again right like what like what are those pictures back there are there pictures of people that yeah i don't even know do you know everybody no i just remember you know i just you know it's my home you know i mean it's just like you know i was born on the strip and and that's kind of like all i know you know you were born on the strip
Guest:Yeah, on the Sunset Strip.
Guest:Where?
Guest:At the hospital?
Marc:No, in Hollywood.
Marc:Just on the street.
Marc:In Hollywood.
Marc:At a Hollywood hospital.
Marc:Oh, really?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And when, now your dad.
Guest:My dad's awesome, dude.
Guest:Like 85, like still fucking doing it.
Marc:But he was like, I mean, like he was a comic when your mom met him, right?
Guest:Yeah, my dad, the way, because it's funny because there were so many different stories about how they met and da, da, da.
Guest:And I wanted to get the real story.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Cause like, and especially before my parents passed and I knew I couldn't get it from my mom cause she's not that doing that well.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:So I asked my mom, I go, I mean, I asked my dad, I go, how the fuck did you guys really meet for real?
Guest:It's like, and basically he was working Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin in the fifties.
Guest:Um, and my dad was, was, was, uh, you know, doing a standup and he was, he was at there for the whole summer.
Right.
Guest:doing a dinner theater yeah just the whole summer it was like he was the con like if you're doing a cruise like a comic for the city summer for the summer for all for the whole summer sammy shorty playing wisconsin yeah yeah for the whole summer all right right and my mom was the assistant to the owner of the place uh-huh you know the person in charge the president of the of the of the camp or whatever
Guest:And my dad would have my mom type up his material because she typed.
Guest:She was like the secretary.
Guest:And that's pretty much how it happened.
Guest:And then he would just type her material.
Guest:And then he obviously had sex with her.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And he started dating that summer.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And then he took off and then got pregnant.
Guest:She got pregnant.
Guest:She got pregnant.
Guest:Yeah, with Scott.
Guest:My oldest brother, Scott.
Guest:So that happened before they got married.
Guest:yes way before yeah he was just he was there for the whole summer right and they were dating right and he was she was the secretary to the owner so in in that and that's crazy right how funny right yeah it is what's the age difference between who your mom and dad oh uh like four years oh so they're like you know they're right there yeah yeah that's sort of a sweet story in a way yeah it's pretty cool and then he went on to like at that time was it so my dad was yeah he was out on the road and he was just touring and then she she called him up and she said sammy i'm pregnant
Marc:So didn't he open for Sinatra?
Guest:Yeah, he opened for everyone.
Marc:Elvis?
Guest:Everyone.
Marc:He was a Vegas guy.
Guest:Well, no, first he just worked the road.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:All the places, like every time I play these shit towns, you know, all over America, which I personally fucking love.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I love the Toledos.
Guest:I love the Ohio.
Guest:I love all that.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It's like my favorite.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Every time I call him, he's like, I fucking played that place in 19.
Guest:I played King Walo's Supper Club and da-da-da.
Guest:So he played all these fucking towns.
Guest:I should interview him.
Guest:Yeah, he played all these talents back in the day, back in the 50s and 60s.
Guest:What's his opening joke?
Guest:I don't remember.
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:Do you know any of your dad's jokes?
Guest:Yeah, probably.
Guest:I know his stuff like I know Argus' stuff.
Guest:It's the same thing, you know what I mean?
Marc:One-liners?
Guest:One-liners.
Guest:all right so okay so now you're in hollywood you're like this hollywood kid and you're going to the store i mean what are your earliest memories of watching comedy over there i mean if you're like well i remember like red fox you know really yeah i remember red fox i remember pat mccormick i remember yeah i remember uh natural gas oh my god remember natural gas wasn't that gary mule deer thing or no it was vic dunlop
Guest:Oh, really?
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:He just passed away.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Oh, my God.
Guest:So, yes.
Guest:But Dave Tyree was in Natural Gas.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:He was the best.
Guest:How great is Dave Tyree?
Guest:I haven't seen him in a long time.
Guest:I mean, fucking awesome, dude.
Guest:Is he still around?
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:I haven't seen him.
Guest:But, dude, he used to get on stage in Westwood and literally be fucking wasted.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:He would get on stage in Westwood and basically start talking shit to the crowd and then literally walk off the stage and fall.
Guest:Hey, like...
Guest:He would eat shit off the stage and just eat.
Guest:So he was there.
Guest:So that was some of my other members.
Guest:Obviously, Lenny Schultz was one of my biggest inspirations.
Guest:I mean, I love Lenny.
Guest:I mean, I used to fucking run to see Lenny Schultz.
Guest:I mean, do you know what he used to do, right?
Marc:He was like a crazy ventriloquist or something?
Guest:No, dude.
Guest:He was who I think Gallagher stole his act from.
Guest:His son was around for a while, right?
Guest:I didn't know his son.
Guest:No, Lenny Schultz was a PE coach.
Marc:Right.
Marc:But he's crazy, right?
Guest:He was a good-looking guy.
Guest:Good-looking.
Guest:Back in the day, he'd wear Speedos.
Guest:He'd come on stage.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:In the main room.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And he used to say, you know, a lot of people, a lot of people would have, you know, when they go on, when they have diets, they eat the food where they don't want to eat.
Guest:It goes in the Lenny Schultz diet.
Guest:I'd put the food on the parts of my body where I want to lose weight.
Guest:So he literally, he would turn the orchestra music on.
Guest:He had all these fucking pigs and cottage cheese and all this shit.
Guest:And he would literally take all his clothes off.
Guest:This is in the main room.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like fucking...
Guest:straight away dude and dressed to his speedos and he would throw cottage cheese in his balls and pour a fucking egg on his head and milk and then cereal and like insane people are like screaming and i had to fucking clean him off because he would meet me out to the back by you know where we hang out by the by the the stairs down there and i'd have a hose and i would just hose the guy off
Guest:That was like one of my things I did.
Guest:But I loved it.
Guest:I was so obsessed.
Guest:How old were you?
Guest:I was probably like, I don't know, seven, eight, nine, something like that.
Guest:But I was so into it.
Guest:He was so funny, dude.
Marc:And you remember like Pat McCormick because you were the kid.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:So they'd all take care of you like you were the kid.
Guest:Well, I wouldn't say they take care of me.
Marc:But you were the kid hanging around.
Guest:Yeah, I was there.
Marc:No one treated you like an asshole.
Guest:No, no.
Guest:It was cool.
Guest:It was just like I was there.
Guest:But it was... Yeah, so those are some of my earlier times.
Guest:What about Pryor?
Guest:Well, yeah, of course.
Guest:That was fucking weird when he would come in.
Marc:But early on, before he got sick.
Guest:Yeah, of course.
Guest:Well, yeah, that's what I mean.
Guest:In the 70s.
Marc:Nice to see him.
Guest:Why was it weird?
Guest:Because he was like, Jesus.
Guest:It was like fucking insane.
Guest:It was like...
Guest:Holy shit.
Guest:It was literally parting the sea.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And everyone's hairs would stand up.
Guest:And when he would get introduced on stage, and I've never seen this to this day.
Marc:In the OR or the main room?
Marc:In the OR.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:When he would get introduced on stage, and I still never seen this today, they'd go, ladies and gentlemen, Richard Pratt, people almost thought the fucking Messiah showed up.
Guest:Everyone stood up.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Everyone fucking stood up.
Guest:like no shit yeah like people couldn't believe it and they were like every little thing that came out of his mouth was funny in some type of way yeah it was weird and he had this this this um this uh what was it just this overwhelming like heart on stage and you just i don't know dude it was insane it was really yeah it was so awesome
Marc:That's fucking wild.
Guest:It was so wild.
Guest:Plus, Pryor's here, Pryor's here, move, move, move.
Guest:Everyone would get out of the way.
Guest:He was always really sweet.
Guest:He would shake every person's hand.
Guest:When you get out of your car, every single take his time, he would go sit on the bottom of the belly room steps.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:Right there.
Guest:He'd have a cigarette right there.
Guest:He would get his little cognac right there.
Guest:My mom would usually sit with him right there, and they would just chill.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:And then when it was time for him to go on, he would just kind of walk over.
Guest:He was always very slow and very mellow.
Marc:I only saw him there once when I was there, and it was right before he got sick and probably after he had the accident.
Marc:And I just watched him walk down that hallway smoking that cigarette.
Marc:It was like you could feel the fucking power of it.
Marc:I guess I should explain to people who are listening that the comedy store, there's three rooms.
Marc:There's the original room, which is a small black box sort of room.
Marc:There's the main room, which is like a Vegas showroom.
Marc:And then upstairs, there's the belly room, which is where I started working.
Marc:And we had to drag people up who were leaving the main room to do the belly room.
Marc:But that was originally put there for women.
Guest:Yeah, my mom created it for women in comedy.
Guest:That's where Sandra Bernhardt and Whoopi Goldberg got discovered by Steven Spielberg in that particular room.
Marc:In the ballet room.
Guest:What does it see, like 60, 80?
Guest:If, yeah.
Guest:A little tiny place.
Guest:Yeah, it's a great room.
Marc:Lois Bromfield.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Who are some of the other women of comedy?
Marc:Nancy Redman.
Marc:Oh, God.
Marc:Yeah, she was unbelievable.
Marc:Holy shit.
Marc:I used to live with her.
Marc:I used to live with her.
Marc:Where?
Marc:At Crest Hill.
Marc:She lived in the room adjacent to me.
Guest:Yeah, and she used to go out with some weird fucking guy, dude.
Guest:He's dead.
Guest:Who was the guy?
Guest:He's dead.
Guest:Yeah, but who was the guy?
Guest:The fat guy?
Marc:Yeah, Norman, right?
Marc:Was it Norman?
Marc:I forget his name, but something happened.
Marc:Something went wrong in New York.
Marc:I don't know what.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:My mom loved her.
Guest:My mom felt so bad for her.
Guest:I think she's still around.
Marc:Really?
Marc:Yeah, I mentioned her on a podcast, and I got a Facebook message from her.
Marc:Oh, my God.
Guest:That's awesome.
Marc:Well, how does that make you feel?
Marc:I mean, in the sense that you always had a certain detachment from the place because you're always sort of bouncing around.
Marc:You have that personality.
Marc:But there's literally fucking hundreds of people where you're like, what happened to that guy?
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:What happened to Joey Kamen?
Guest:Yeah, Joey Kamen.
Guest:I know what happened to Joey Kamen.
Marc:He was funny.
Guest:What about Billy Braver?
Guest:You remember him?
Marc:The guy who painted?
Guest:No, Billy Braver.
Guest:He was the guy that used to walk around with a lunch pail.
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:I don't know what happened to all these fucking guys.
Guest:Oh, Greg Hilbers was the guy that painted.
Guest:Oh, shit.
Marc:Yeah, I know.
Marc:Unbelievable.
Marc:Those are just guys that I remember.
Marc:I saw Gaynor recently.
Marc:He seems alive and well.
Marc:Oh, that's good.
Marc:What about Walters?
Guest:Mitchell, I don't know where he is.
Guest:He's the best.
Guest:You love Mitchell.
Guest:Loved Mitchell, dude.
Guest:I have a great Mitchell Walters.
Guest:What?
Guest:We were playing.
Guest:It was my first time working with Sam at the Dunes in Vegas.
Guest:and it was like the outlaws or blah, blah, blah, whatever.
Guest:So this is when he sued, I guess it was like Universal or- Oh, after the Atuk thing.
Marc:Yeah, yeah.
Marc:That was right after I left, I think.
Guest:And Mitchell was, he came up to me, he would come up to me and I'd be like, dude, I was like young, I was like 19.
Guest:I'm like, dude, are we gonna get fucked up after the show?
Guest:He goes, yeah, me and you, kid.
Guest:Me and you, we're gonna get fucked up, da, da, da, da.
Marc:You didn't do much.
Marc:What did you do?
Marc:Drink?
Guest:No, just party, do a little coke or whatever, you know, back in the day.
Guest:And he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:So then we did the show, and then sometime in between the show, he went out and gambled.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And then he lost all this fucking money.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And then I said, dude, after the show, let's go party.
Guest:He goes, get the fuck away from me, golden child.
Guest:You know, go see your fucking mom.
Guest:I don't have time for you.
Guest:I'm like, dude, what the fuck?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It was so funny, dude.
Guest:He was so, because he was all, you know what I mean?
Guest:He was such a gambler.
Marc:The story I heard about him, and I don't know if you know if it's true or not, is that when the shit hit the fan and they were cracking down on the drug dealers at the comedy store, that they thought that Mitchell was like the kingpin because they had pictures of him with every drug dealer.
Marc:Oh, God.
Guest:Because he was buying drugs.
Marc:He was so into it.
Marc:I didn't really know him.
Marc:And the only time I met him, he was not nice to me at all.
Guest:He hurt my feelings immediately.
Guest:Yeah, because he was probably coked out or he just lost money.
Guest:But if he wasn't, if he won money or whatever, he was the best.
Marc:I remember Alan Stevens was a complete douchebag to me for no reason at all.
Marc:Because I used to drive the fucking Jeep for your mom, and I have to drive those guys to the airport, right?
Marc:And one time I went and picked Alan up at the airport, and I took him home, and I was with Schubert, and we did some blow or whatever.
Marc:And then I saw him a couple nights later.
Marc:I'm like, hey, man, what's going on?
Marc:He's like, what, you driving me from the airport?
Marc:We're fucking friends?
Marc:Oh, that's awesome.
Marc:Yeah, okay, buddy.
Marc:That's awesome.
Marc:There were some pretty mean dudes around.
Marc:yeah i mean i mean it was what about mooney i mean mooney was there when you were like 10 5 yeah mooney mooney's another late bloomer you know but i mean late bloomer or what but he was there like i went to the fucking comedy store when i was still in college just at night i remember walking in there at midnight he was doing that last spot for like 20 fucking years my point is he was a late he's a late bloomer a lot of people in the last five ten years have heard about paul mooney because it's chapelle
Guest:Yeah, of course, right, because of Chappelle.
Guest:But before that, he'd been in the game, like you just said, for years.
Marc:And all those dudes used to pull.
Marc:Sam used to go in and they'd all sit there and watch him.
Marc:The room would be empty by the time he'd go on.
Marc:There'd be like nine people in there.
Marc:And Kennison would always sit in the back and watch him.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:No, Mooney's awesome.
Marc:You remember Binder?
Marc:Of course.
Marc:Mike Binder?
Marc:See, what's his history?
Marc:Because I always thought he was so funny.
Guest:Yeah, he was great.
Guest:He had like a great, like all these guys had like a really good like 15.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And Binder had like a great 15.
Guest:But wasn't he like 18?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah, he started off when he was really young.
Guest:He used to take care of me a lot.
Guest:I mean, that's pretty much what these guys did.
Guest:My parents got divorced when my mom was around 40, and my dad took off, and my mom was just with the comedians, and I was pretty much left alone at the store.
Guest:And Mike Binder was definitely one of those people that would take me to skate parks.
Guest:oh really i remember i remember even going with mike binder to go pick out one of his brand new first his first cars it was like a silver toyota like a brand it smelled awesome he would take me to skate parks in it and stuff like that but he was he was a great guy mike wasn't there some great story about him being out of control and pulling down the sign across the street or something probably uh and then do you remember ollie joe prater yeah
Guest:Yeah, he was, I think the strongest, seriously, the strongest 45 minutes I've ever seen in my life.
Guest:Really?
Guest:Just straight on a, just in La Jolla, just boom.
Guest:Like every joke set up, joke set, just like none.
Guest:But he did the same thing, but it was funny.
Guest:He did this one joke.
Guest:I remember he did this one joke.
Guest:He goes, I dropped acid once, and I went up inside my girl's waterbed.
Guest:I said, God damn, baby, you got a nice ass, but let me out of here.
Guest:You remember that?
Guest:No.
Marc:When I got there, he was already kind of sick, and he was living in that shack at the top of the parking lot, and he was walking with a cane.
Marc:Didn't he have gout or something?
Marc:And your mom put him up in that shack up there?
Marc:Yeah, he's another guy that would fucking just do lots of blow.
Guest:And he was so heavy, too.
Marc:So heavy.
Marc:And what about in Dice?
Marc:You remember Dice when you were a kid?
Marc:Of course.
Guest:Was he nice to you?
Guest:Dice was always cool, you know?
Guest:Dice was cool, yeah.
Guest:He's an interesting guy, right?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And Robin?
Guest:What about Robin?
Guest:Robin was interesting.
Guest:Robin used to, before the comedy store offices were at the comedy store at my house.
Guest:So my mom, in one of the rooms at the house, so Robin used to come to the house and pick up his check.
Marc:Right.
Guest:In his, like, Mark and Mindy outfit.
Guest:Oh, really?
Marc:Yeah, which was... And your mom, like, over time, like, do you remember all the guys she dated?
Yeah.
Guest:Yeah, of course.
Guest:Steve Landisberg.
Guest:Steve Landsberg.
Guest:Danny.
Guest:Danny Stone.
Guest:Argus.
Guest:Who else was it?
Guest:I think James Lee Reeves used to sleep at the house.
Guest:Who else was there?
Guest:People sleeping at the house.
Guest:But then again, whose mom out there didn't sleep with a lot of guys when they got divorced?
Marc:No, no.
Marc:I'm not judging her.
Guest:I just think it's interesting.
Guest:I know.
Guest:It's just funny.
Guest:It's just like, yeah, that's just the way it was.
Marc:But Landsberg, he was a funny guy.
Marc:I never saw him do stand-up.
Marc:He was great.
Marc:Yeah?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I mean, on stage, he was great.
Guest:He was kind of a fucker to me.
Guest:Oh, really?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah, he was a fucker to me.
Guest:He used to... I remember he used to... We used to go to this place in Hollywood.
Guest:I think it was called Two Guys from Italy.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It was an Italian restaurant back in the day.
Guest:And he always used to... I think it was me, my mom, and Steven.
Guest:We used to drive to...
Guest:drive to the restaurant and then like if I was whining or something instead of like telling me to shut up he'd literally tell me to get out of the car yeah and he would drop me off in the middle of Hollywood Boulevard and just take off and then he like leave me for like a half hour dude I'm like crying dude I'm like fucking I don't know eight nine ten
Guest:So he's a funny guy, huh?
Guest:And then he would drive around, and they would stare at me.
Guest:And my mom was in the fucking car during this whole time.
Guest:And they would stare at me, and then finally, when they thought the time was right, they'd pick me up again.
Guest:And then he'd be like, are you going to shut up now?
Guest:Pretty much.
Guest:You know?
Guest:That was pretty...
Marc:And all this time you were still hanging out with your dad occasionally?
Guest:Yeah, once in a while.
Marc:Now, where are the other siblings?
Marc:Where's Sandy and Peter and Scott?
Guest:Well, Scott and Sandy, I think... Scott moved down to San Diego when he was like 18 or 19 or 20 or 21 like that.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And then Sandy... I met Sandy.
Guest:Sandy was... See, the thing that's sad to me about Sandy is she's so talented.
Guest:my sister she's so talented but she was never able to like figure out her own little you know niche for something she's got she's teaching stand-up and in san diego but i just think she's she could do she could do so much more than that because she's just she's like an artist she's crazy she used to go out this guy named um she dated a lot of wild guys she dated dice for a while right
Guest:Yeah, but I'm talking about more crazier.
Marc:Recently?
Guest:No, not recently.
Guest:Back in the, even way before Dice.
Guest:She used to go out with this guy.
Guest:Bill Osco was one guy who used to own this place called like, fuck it.
Guest:He was, I mean, if you, I'm sure if you Google the guy, it's like just drug, bust, jail, that type of shit.
Guest:And then she went out with this other guy, Filthy McNasty.
Guest:you know the viper room yeah well it used to be called filthy mcnasties a long time ago and filthy mcnasty is kind of like this character like he had his own like he had a carpet covered hearse with his car with flames on it right and he'd have like his head on top of the car like an ice cream truck head yeah and he would literally i swear to god he would pick up my sister and he'd have a horn you know like a guy's picking up the sister take out a date and he had he had hit the horn and the horn would be like da da da da da da da da
Guest:And then I'd look out the window, and I'd be like, Sandy, filthy's here.
Guest:And literally, she'd have a long coat, and she'd go out on dates with this guy, filthy, nasty.
Marc:Didn't she get in?
Marc:I remember meeting her once, and she was into the Buddhism.
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:She was into that for a while.
Guest:She married a guy.
Guest:I didn't go to the wedding, but she married one of those type of guys.
Marc:Do you get along with them?
Yeah.
Guest:I mean, I love them.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:I love my brothers and I love my sisters more than anything, but like I think any siblings, there's a lot of kind of... What the hell just happened with the legal thing with the store?
Marc:What's that about?
Guest:Well, first of all, I can't really get into it.
Guest:I kind of told you this.
Guest:I don't know if I told you this, but I just can't really get into it so much just because of the whole lawyer thing and all that stuff.
Guest:But...
Guest:That's pretty much it.
Guest:What's at stake?
Guest:The future of the store?
Guest:Pretty much, I think, the future of the store.
Guest:What do you want to happen with the store?
Guest:Well, I want it to go on for another 40 years.
Guest:I think it has to.
Guest:I think that you can't knock down the building.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:The building itself is its own thing.
Guest:Is it established as a historical landmark?
Guest:I hope so.
Guest:We don't know?
Guest:No, I don't know.
Guest:I hope so.
Guest:I just think that...
Guest:Even if the comedy store, at the end of the day, even if the comedy store's numbers are up and down and they're not that good, there's still an energy there and there's still people there, comics there, that just want to go and learn.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Marc:Yeah, it's its own place.
Marc:It actually frightens away the right people.
Marc:It seems to have its own... There are people that are like, I don't go up there.
Marc:But the comics...
Guest:Yeah, it definitely brings out your stress or your non-stress.
Guest:If you're angst, it brings that out more.
Guest:If you're happy, it brings out that more.
Marc:That's what's amazing about it is that you have the complete spectrum.
Marc:There were more goofy fucking acts at the store when I was there than I could even imagine, but yet on the other side of the spectrum, there were some angry fucking dark people.
Marc:There was not much middle.
Marc:The middle guys always seem to just float in and out.
Marc:But the people that were married to the place were the people carrying their ax on their back, or the fucking people that were yelling and screaming and angry and tapping into the dark.
Marc:What do you think it is about that place?
Marc:I mean, do you think it's haunted?
Marc:Where did that energy come from?
Guest:I think it's even from Ciro's.
Marc:It was originally a nightclub.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I think it just, it has that kind of, it's like the, it's like an, to me, it's like an old mitt.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know, it's like the whiskey or the Roxy.
Guest:It's kind of got that old, you know, or the magic castle where it's just got that old kind of.
Guest:But your mom embraced that.
Marc:I mean, it's not like she redecorated the place.
Marc:I mean, it's been black and red forever.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:I mean, all she did was, what did you guys do?
Marc:You updated the signs in the OR.
Marc:I remember when you knew you were supposed to get off when Eddie Cantor lit up, right?
Marc:Right, right, right, right.
Marc:Wasn't Eddie Cantor in the corner?
Marc:Yeah, I don't remember.
Marc:I spent so many.
Marc:So, well, what was the trajectory of your career then?
Marc:So you started doing the comedy when you were 17 or 18, and then you got your composite head shot, and then how did it happen for you?
Guest:And then it was pretty much MTV saw me in the OR, and then they brought me to Spring Break, and that didn't go so well.
Guest:What do you mean?
Guest:It just didn't go well.
Guest:It was me and Christian Slater down there.
Guest:Corey Feldman was like the man on top.
Guest:He was like the guy that was getting- Did you know all those guys?
Marc:Because I remember that one friend of yours, whatever happened to that guy, Josh Miller?
Marc:Was that his name?
Marc:The dude who was in River's Edge?
Guest:Oh, no.
Guest:Josh Richmond.
Guest:Josh Richmond.
Guest:Yeah, he's awesome.
Marc:Yeah, he was a good guy.
Marc:He used to hang out with his cane.
Marc:Yeah, yeah.
Marc:And Martha Plimpton used to hang out.
Marc:And Donovan Leach used to hang out.
Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marc:Like you were in sort of like a crew there.
Marc:right?
Guest:Yeah, those were- Mark Bruiser.
Guest:Yeah, Mark Bruiser.
Marc:What happened to that guy?
Marc:He still lives up on the hill.
Marc:But were you locked in with those guys, like Slater and them?
Marc:Because I don't know what it's like to be a Hollywood kid.
Marc:I mean, you were sort of running around doing that thing.
Guest:Yeah, my first audition was for Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Me and Donovan.
Guest:Donovan called me up and said, hey, I'm going in to read this.
Guest:Would you like to play Bill or Ted or whatever?
Guest:and my manager got me an audition, so me and Donovan, we actually got to the end, and it was me, it was down to me, Donovan, I think Keanu and Alex, and Josh Richman was actually, because Josh was acting, and I think one other guy, and then after that, you know, we just all started hanging out, and it was pretty much it, Donovan's an awesome guy, Donovan's like a really cool dude, and like his mom, and you know, his dad was Donovan, the singer, you know what I mean?
Marc:Yeah, I've met him a couple times, nice guy.
Guest:Yeah, and, uh,
Guest:and we always used to hang out at donovan's mom's house off of beachwood canyon it was just like a really cool like like to do it's like we'd always have fucking tuna fish and they were playing backgammon and and it was just like lunch yeah it was just like it was almost like like the the the flower child version of the manson right thing right right you know i mean it was like the hippie yeah like you know no tuna fish at mitzi's house
Guest:Kefilta fish.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Kefilta fish.
Guest:No, but it was cool because I used to always, me and Donovan used to always hang out.
Guest:We used to go to the Odyssey, which was down on La Cienega in Beverly.
Guest:And at Donovan's house, it was cool because his sister is Ione Skye.
Guest:Remember Ione?
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:Yeah, you remember Ione?
Guest:And she used to go out with, she went out with Anthony Kiedis for a long time from the Chili Peppers.
Guest:And then she was out with Adam Horowitz from the Beastie Boys.
Marc:That's her sister, the actress?
Guest:yeah that's donovan's sister yeah yeah i didn't know they were brother and sister yeah yeah yeah yeah and we used to fucking john kuzak movie yeah yeah yeah say anything oh i didn't know yeah yeah yeah yeah so we all we're all managed by the same lady barbara benstein yeah and um and we all used to hang out at the house and it was just like this really cool like kind of hangout spot yeah it was it was it was really so what was the first movie
Marc:The first movie I think was- You became the weasel.
Marc:So you evolved from a surfer guy when I first saw you, and then you became the weasel, which was a little more broad.
Guest:Yeah, but that didn't happen for a while after.
Guest:I mean, I did a lot of stuff before MTV, before I hit on MTV.
Guest:The MTV stuff, that's where the whole weasel thing came out.
Guest:And that's when I was wearing my mom's clothes, and you know what I mean?
Guest:I had my fucking shit, and I was looking at Steven Tyler, and the whole pausing shit happened kind of on accident.
Guest:on the camera at MTV.
Guest:What do you mean?
Guest:Hey, no, I did it.
Guest:I was, cause they were going, uh, I think the first video was, uh, it was Billy Idol's Rock the Cradle of Love.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And that was like my first video.
Guest:And it was pretty much like, check out this video.
Guest:It's going to be major.
Guest:You know, I said that, and we all watched it back, and we all giggled.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:And then I just started pausing between all my words and shit like that.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:And that was your hook.
Guest:That was my hook.
Guest:It just happened.
Guest:It was almost like, remember that peanut butter commercial with the Reese's beer?
Guest:It just kind of happened.
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Guest:It wasn't like anything.
Guest:Like, I didn't know it was going to happen.
Guest:But was your mom, when you did comedy, what did she think of your comedy?
Guest:She was like, get the fuck out of here.
Guest:She was like, get them the fuck out of here.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:Get him out of here.
Guest:I literally had to become like famous and known before she allowed me on the stage.
Guest:I even got kicked out of the house and I got my own apartment and all that.
Guest:Why?
Guest:There was a lot of turmoil between me and her for a long time.
Guest:Over you doing comedy?
Guest:Just my choices.
Guest:You know, hanging out with Sam, me doing comedy, the whole thing.
Guest:What did she want you to do?
Guest:She wanted me to go to college.
Marc:Oh.
Marc:Well, your brother's a lawyer, right?
Marc:Or an accountant, or what is he?
Marc:Did he go to college, Peter?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Yeah, Peter went to college.
Marc:He went to a lot of different colleges.
Marc:Oh, okay.
Guest:So he went to college.
Marc:And your brother brother's in real estate, right?
Marc:Scott's in real estate, yeah.
Marc:And Sandy teaches.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And she wanted you to go to college and be on the up and up.
Marc:I guess.
Marc:I don't know.
Marc:How the fuck was that?
Marc:How was that going to happen?
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:You know, maybe it was just, I don't know.
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:yeah but when she i think she was so stressed and so busy with the work and the store she just didn't want to fucking deal with her son doing it too you know think about it she's 41 42 40 she's running this fucking business yeah and then i'm fucking walking in her house going mom i'm gonna do this i'm gonna do you know what i mean yeah it's like that's the last thing you want to do is like come home my whole thing with her was like yo just she her whole thing was like just fucking make sure there's food on the table for me when i get home at five that's all i care about
Guest:she'd call me up and she'd be like, make me a steak.
Guest:And she'd hang up the phone.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Cause she was stressed and pissed about, I wouldn't say pissed.
Guest:I think she was just like overwhelmed with everything.
Marc:But do you know how terrified we all were her?
Yeah.
Marc:Do you realize how terrified all the comics were her?
Marc:I don't understand that dynamic.
Marc:It was like, it was almost like she had this power in that place where you had all these wayward, angry comics who didn't have good relationships with their parents.
Marc:Right.
Marc:And we just decided that she was,
Marc:the mother of the whole situation.
Marc:Yeah, she was.
Marc:I was paralyzed with fear and pain.
Marc:Like, you know, when I had to deliver a goddamn chicken salad, go get me a chicken salad.
Guest:But I think you knew, though, that she was coming from a good place.
Marc:I don't know.
Guest:She told me I should wear a scarf and that I was a poet.
Guest:And I saw you wearing a scarf and you looked good.
Guest:For a while.
Guest:That was the beginning part.
Guest:Yeah, I found a scarf.
Guest:What did she do?
Guest:Did she tell some guy, you should do puppets?
Guest:The first time she'd see you, she'd always have this weird poetic note.
Guest:Well, she had the thing with Jackie Grayman to wear a yellow suit.
Guest:Oh, right.
Guest:Jackie Banana, she called him.
Guest:Jackie Banana.
Guest:Next thing you know, he's at the store with the yellow suit.
Guest:Okay, is this good?
Guest:He was funny, though, in a yellow suit.
Guest:How long did he do that for?
Guest:For a while, a couple years.
Guest:But I think she told Roseanne to wear the overalls as well, though.
Guest:I'm sure.
Guest:Yeah, she told Roseanne to wear the overalls, and she wore them on The Tonight Show.
Marc:Right.
Guest:That was her signature.
Marc:Who else did she give direction to?
Marc:Do you know?
Marc:I mean, Roseanne, she was gone by the time I got there, and Jim Carrey was gone, too.
Marc:Do you remember those guys hanging around?
Marc:Yeah, dude, for sure.
Guest:Jim was pretty terrible, dude.
Guest:Really?
Guest:Yeah, he was just an unbelievable impressionist.
Guest:Like, holy shit.
Marc:He'd become the guy.
Marc:Oh, yeah.
Marc:I remember seeing him on TV.
Guest:Yeah, because he would be, like in Westwood, he would literally become, you know, transformed.
Guest:But the stand-up was just always kind of like, not that he wasn't,
Guest:Funny on stage, but as a stand-up.
Guest:Didn't he do contortions too?
Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:As a stand-up, it wasn't really his thing.
Guest:But he just became huge.
Marc:God, there must be so many.
Marc:You don't even think about it?
Marc:You never got that attached to him?
Marc:They were just people that would come and go?
Marc:I can't even imagine it because when I go to the store, I feel so emotionally connected to it and emotionally connected to even people like Goldstein and Danny Stone because when I got there, I was so out of my mind and then I got more out of my mind.
Marc:So they all played characters in this fucking thing in my head.
Marc:And then when I'd start hearing about people, things going wrong and stuff, it's just sad to me.
Marc:But you never got that emotionally attached to anybody.
Marc:Well, yeah.
Guest:I mean, the people that took care of me, I guess, when I was younger, when I was a kid.
Guest:The different... I mean, I had different...
Guest:my mom was always again busy so she always kind of put people there's a guy named remember chris jackson you probably don't remember him a black guy chris jackson he wrote for eddie murphy and stuff no he used to play winnie the pooh at disneyland that was his job right you know what i mean like literally the whole fucking outfit
Guest:Right.
Guest:And he used to take me and my friends to Disneyland.
Guest:I mean, how awesome is that?
Guest:Your fucking guardian's Winnie the Pooh.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:So he used to take us to Disneyland.
Guest:And I remember me and my friend, we stole, like I shoplifted when I was a kid, you know, at Disneyland.
Guest:And we got thrown in the Disneyland jail.
Guest:And they're like, who took you here?
Guest:And we're like, Winnie the Pooh.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And...
Marc:Okay, so when you got, when was the time where, which movie was it where you crossed over into like you were a thing and your life got large?
Marc:Was it Encino Man?
Marc:Yeah, it was Encino Man, yeah.
Marc:And then all of a sudden you were like a million dollar guy?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And you did like, how many movies after you did?
Marc:Oh, Son-in-Law was big.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And Biodome was big.
Marc:Biodome, In the Army Now was big for me.
Marc:Yeah, and that was with Andy Dick.
Guest:Yeah, that was awesome.
Guest:Yeah, he's funny.
Guest:And at that time, you just became kind of like you were living pretty large, right?
Guest:You know what?
Guest:I love to work is why I still work.
Guest:I work for no money.
Guest:I work for some money.
Guest:I just love to do it.
Guest:I was just loving showing up and memorizing scripts and reading with actors.
Marc:And the money, right?
Marc:You were running around.
Marc:Yeah, I made some money, definitely.
Marc:And then you had that relationship with the porn star, right?
Guest:Yeah, Savannah.
Guest:Savannah.
Guest:Yeah, that was a really exciting time for me.
Guest:What?
Guest:That was a really exciting time for me because, you know, I mean, the whole Playboy thing, I mean, that whole the girl thing was an exciting time for me.
Guest:How old were you?
Guest:With Savannah?
Marc:I was like 21, 22.
Marc:Because you weren't really dating porn stars and playmates until you did the movies.
Guest:Yeah, no, not until I got on MTV.
Guest:Oh, really?
Guest:That's when it started?
Guest:Well, yeah, MTV equals porn stars.
Guest:MTV equals playmates.
Marc:But also the comedy store, for some reason, equals porn stars.
Marc:When did that start happening?
Marc:Was that Sam who brought them in?
Marc:That was Sam, yeah.
Marc:Yeah, when Ron Jeremy started hanging out?
Guest:What was Billy Idol?
Guest:It was that, you know, it was Seika.
Guest:You remember when Sam was all, you know, it was just that whole.
Marc:Well, yeah, when he was fucking Seika.
Marc:And then what was that other one that used to hang around, the one that Todd used to go out with?
Marc:Oh, God.
Guest:Ginger Lynn?
Marc:No.
Marc:No, no, no.
Guest:Oh, the one with the big tits.
Marc:Yeah, there was that one.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Right, and then there was the blonde one.
Marc:Oh, what was her name?
Marc:God, what happens?
Marc:Well, I obviously got sad with Savannah.
Marc:That was horrible.
Marc:Were you with her when she committed suicide?
Yeah.
Guest:No, I helped pay for a funeral and I helped take care of the family and the whole thing.
Guest:It was a tragedy.
Guest:Before me, it was Greg Allman.
Guest:He was the one that kind of discovered her.
Guest:For me, I grew up in this environment.
Guest:I never judge people.
Guest:I've never been that type of person.
Guest:It's like, if you're cool, you're cool.
Guest:I don't care if you're a fucking...
Guest:shooting crack or if you're you know the you know the president of the pta thing like for her like i just loved her like as a person i thought she was really funny and people like she does porn and like i'm like i don't i don't care she's really funny you know she made me laugh my mom loved her really loved her she was like my mom's you should do stand up
Guest:Oh, really?
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:Wear a yellow jacket.
Guest:No, I'm just kidding.
Guest:No, but my mom loved her.
Guest:It's funny because most parents, like, you tell your mom that you're dating a porn star, most parents would be like, what?
Guest:That's fucking disgusting.
Guest:My mom, like, embraced it.
Marc:Yeah, your mom definitely had some version of an open heart because she was sort of a collector of lost souls.
Marc:I mean, that's what that place is.
Marc:You know what I mean?
Marc:I mean, I imagine that how many do-gooder kind of comics are there in the world?
Marc:I mean, did she?
Marc:We're all a little damaged.
Marc:She seemed to like broken toys.
Guest:Well, she also never supported me falling in love, hence the reason why I don't have a girlfriend.
Guest:Hence the reason why I'm not kids.
Guest:I don't have any of that.
Guest:I'm not saying that I might not do it in the future, but part of- That ghost is following you around.
Guest:But part of what my mom has instilled is that women are fucked up.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:Like they fuck with us.
Marc:She said that to you?
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:Yeah, stay away from him.
Guest:I'm like, Mom, I have a girlfriend.
Guest:What for?
Guest:You don't need a fucking girlfriend.
Guest:That type of shit.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:Wow, isn't that a little... Didn't that strike you as odd?
Guest:Yeah, but in a way, it's kind of true in a way just because... For a comic, though, we're so selfish.
Guest:Can I say that?
Guest:We're into our own thing, so it's like...
Guest:You know, if you have females and all this other stuff and it just kind of takes away.
Guest:I mean, that's kind of like, you know, she always said, like, you know, don't date the waitresses at the store.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know, and that's why she always like her whole thing was like to hire waitresses that weren't attractive.
Guest:You knew that, right?
Guest:No.
Guest:You never knew that?
Marc:No.
Guest:Her whole thing was if you if you remember back.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:God knows a comic's not going to fuck an unattractive girl.
Marc:That'll never happen.
Guest:But her philosophy was like when the comic comes to the store is to focus on their material and their thing, not to come to the store to try and get pussy from a waitress.
Marc:But isn't it kind of weird because she's no beacon of sanity, your mom.
Guest:Well, I'm not saying that what she said was the right thing.
Guest:I'm just kind of telling you the information.
Guest:But you think it fucked with your head?
Marc:Yeah, definitely.
Marc:And you haven't found anybody you're in love with?
Marc:No.
Marc:No?
Marc:No.
Marc:You got a girl now?
Marc:No.
Marc:So when Savannah committed suicide, was that surprising?
Marc:I mean, was she depressed?
Guest:No, she told me she was.
Guest:Really?
Guest:Yeah, she told me about... I think she told me about... It was probably about two or three months before she did it.
Guest:I was at a party with her.
Guest:Was she depressed?
Guest:Yeah, she was depressed.
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:She was like, she doesn't want to be a porn star anymore.
Guest:This is like the laundry list of stuff.
Guest:She doesn't want to be a porn star.
Guest:She's known as Savannah...
Guest:she wants out of the business she has a stalker after her she's addicted to drugs you know she said she's gonna kill herself i'm like you know i'm like don't i went i wasn't dating her at the time i hadn't really seen her in a long time i was just kind of like i bumped into her at a mutual friend's party and so i guess she had been thinking about it for a while you know i mean there's nothing you can really do when someone's in that mindset yeah i don't know why is it so hard for them to get out of porn
Guest:Probably because of the money.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And back then, it was taboo to fuck black guys.
Guest:Right.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:It was just like... Or gang bangs.
Guest:You got to pay extra.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Now, if you go on the internet, all chicks are fucking black guys.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It's like getting fucked in the pussy is a weird thing now.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Back then, it was just taboo.
Guest:You mean getting fucked in the ass?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:She was just like...
Guest:going into that world doing anything yeah she was going into that kind of world of of yo I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna you know do a gangbang I'm gonna get fucked in the ass this is when you were going out with her no no she'd been I had been broken up with her for a couple years at least when you were going out with her was she working yeah and that was cool with you yeah didn't bother you at all
Guest:A little bit.
Guest:Yeah, a little bit, but it wasn't... It wasn't a deal breaker.
Guest:It was obviously at one point.
Guest:I mean, obviously, I woke up one day, and I'm like, dude, what am I doing?
Guest:Like, I can't go out to fucking porno.
Guest:It's disgusting.
Guest:That's what happened?
Guest:Yeah, I just woke up one day.
Guest:I'm like, I can't do this anymore.
Marc:Well, do you think it had something to do with that, like...
Marc:Like, you seem a little emotionally insulated.
Marc:I mean, in the sense that, like, if you're going out with a porn star, on some level there's no risk that you're gonna really give your heart to her.
Marc:And that, like, there's some party that knows, like, I must be really emotionally shut down.
Marc:Is that wrong of me to say?
Guest:No, that also, and, um...
Guest:it's okay if you are with other girls it doesn't make you feel as guilty right you know because i was rocking and rolling as well i was on the road i was doing my thing and i was hanging out with this girl that girl so it wasn't like and she didn't care no she didn't care and i didn't you know it was just like it was more of like a friendship yeah and if you know what i mean like if she was just a hot girl that was a porn star that i had sex with then i wouldn't really care you know what i mean but
Guest:But when her makeup was off and we were in Hawaii together or wherever we were, she was Shannon.
Marc:Right.
Guest:She was funny, dude.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:She was really funny.
Marc:Do you ever get fucking sad?
Marc:Do I?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah, of course.
Marc:About what?
Guest:um my mom yeah yeah definitely my mom my family you know and and you know my dad's older and that whole thing you know i mean my parents are in their 80s dude i mean like how great is that like they're still alive like i have friends i was driving over here by forest lawn and and i have a couple friends of mine that i grew up with and bent to beverly with their parents are all dead and they're in forest lawn at beverly hills high
Guest:yeah and and and uh and just the fact that they're still alive is an amazing thing i mean it's like but it's i don't know you know i've been i've been attached to my mom and the comedy store my whole life it's like my umbilical cord you know what i mean and like but that's why i love the i love touring so much i love getting out to these towns you know i mean because i could be around just normal people is there a threat that the store is going to close
Guest:I don't know, dude.
Guest:I don't know what's going to happen to it.
Guest:I really don't.
Guest:I'm not in charge.
Guest:Peter's in charge of the whole thing.
Guest:So I don't know what's going on.
Guest:Hopefully it won't happen.
Guest:But again, I'm as in charge as you are.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:I have no power there.
Marc:Has that strained your relationship with him to the end?
Guest:yeah of course you know I love Peter I'm you know I'm I'm I you know I love him you know what I mean I love he's got beautiful kids and his wife and but it's just you know he's not even live here right no he lives in Portland yeah yeah so but she she made him in charge so do you know why she did that
Guest:I have no idea.
Guest:I have no idea.
Guest:Can't really ask her?
Guest:No, I can't really ask her.
Guest:No, she made him a charge for whatever reason.
Marc:Yeah, all right.
Marc:Well, now in terms of your career now, I know you're doing some stand-up shows on Showtime and you're out there.
Marc:What are the expectations of the crowd?
Marc:How are the ticket sales?
Yeah.
Guest:I think.
Guest:You do all right?
Guest:Yeah, dude.
Guest:Yeah, no, I just, it depends for me.
Guest:It's like, I think that me and you, our audiences are different.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:I think my audience is like.
Marc:I don't stutter the same way.
Marc:I have my own timing, but yeah, it's sort of like a lot of people are like, I thought you did that.
Guest:No, I'm just talking about, like, I think you would go to San Francisco and probably sell tickets.
Guest:I would go there and I wouldn't sell any tickets.
Guest:But then I would go to, like, Sacramento.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:Or I would go to, like, these tertiary markets, these third-tier markets, and just sell out everywhere.
Marc:But do you find that you're... Do they look at you as a nostalgia act?
Marc:I mean, in the sense that they have these expectations because they grew up with you, and they're like, that's the weasel.
Guest:Yeah, I think that's the first part, but I think after that, I think...
Guest:if it was out there that I was a bad standup, I wouldn't be still selling tickets here at 20 years, 25 years later.
Guest:Right.
Guest:I think there's a, I have almost like I'm a politician.
Guest:Like I'm on the road all the time.
Guest:I'm doing all the radios.
Guest:I'm doing all the TVs.
Guest:I'm hitting every market and they're all my friends, all the radio people, all the club owners.
Guest:I know them all by names.
Guest:I make my own deals.
Guest:I don't deal with agents really.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know, you just do door deals.
Guest:So mostly door deals, sometimes guarantees, but I like door deals because it's all on you.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And I don't like to fuck over club owners and I don't, you know what I mean?
Guest:So if I sell tickets, I want to make the money.
Guest:Right.
Guest:If I don't sell tickets, then, you know, so...
Guest:But no, I like, so yeah, so a lot of the smaller markets are like Toledo.
Guest:Right.
Guest:You know, those are like some of my really great markets.
Marc:Really?
Guest:Yeah, I love it.
Marc:And people, do they, what do you give them?
Marc:I mean, do you give them like some of the older kind of attitude?
Marc:Do you still do that?
Marc:Yeah, a little bit, yeah.
Marc:I have fun with it.
Marc:Do you do the stuttering thing still?
Guest:I have fun with it, yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I give it to them just like little snippets.
Guest:Right, right.
Guest:You know, where I feel like- Almost like time traveling?
Guest:If I'm on stage and I feel that that's what, if I feel as a comic, that's what they want to hear, then I throw that at them.
Guest:Just enough and then I move on, you know?
Guest:It's kind of like a surfer.
Guest:You kind of like got to- Sure.
Guest:You know, go around and feel, you know?
Marc:And you're nice to your fans.
Marc:You take pictures.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:You're not a dick.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:No, after every show.
Guest:I've always, for years, that's what I do, you know?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Who do you take out with you when you go?
Guest:I've been with Sandy for a while.
Guest:Sandy Danto.
Guest:You met Sandy?
Guest:I don't know if I know.
Guest:Yeah, really, really funny kid.
Guest:He looks like a little version of Ron Jeremy or like Jim Belushi or Andy Kaufman.
Guest:Really, really funny.
Guest:Yeah, really, really funny.
Marc:Did Andy Kaufman ever do this door?
Guest:I think he did.
Guest:I never saw him.
Guest:I don't think I ever saw him.
Marc:In all your time, in your memory, what has been the most heinous thing you've seen at the store?
Marc:I mean, what angers you?
Marc:Because I know when I was there, you were pissed off at all the drugs that were going on, and you were concerned about Sam, and you knew that there was a bad element there.
Marc:And I know that when the shit really hit the fan, and Sam started to hit the skids, there was another element that came in.
Marc:There was almost a gangbanging element for a while, wasn't there?
Marc:Or am I making that up?
Guest:No, no, no.
Guest:I think at the end of the day, the comedy store is my house.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:So when there's glasses lying around or there's kind of like people feel, I feel like they're disrespecting my house.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I get a little angry.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:But you never got angry at specific comics for specific reasons.
Guest:I had a thing with Dice for a while.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:Because of Sam.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know, because I, you know, like, I guess he thought that I chose Sam's side.
Marc:Uh-huh.
Guest:And then I asked him a while ago.
Guest:I'm like, oh, this is years ago.
Guest:I said, why?
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:Because, no, here's what happened.
Guest:Because I did the movie Pauly Shore is Dead.
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:And I asked Dice to be in it.
Guest:And he said he wouldn't be in it because Sam was in it.
Guest:And I'm like, Sam's not in it.
Guest:A lookalike is in it.
Guest:And it's like, and Craig Gass is doing the voice.
Guest:It's not really Sam.
Guest:And he's, oh, he's still in it.
Marc:Really?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So that was like his beef with me.
Guest:I was like.
Marc:What was, I can't remember their beef.
Marc:There was some sort of challenge.
Marc:I mean, I talked to Dyson here and he was pretty great.
Marc:But I remember that there was some weird competition because they both sort of broke within a year of each other.
Guest:I think it was the whole ego, like who sells more tickets.
Guest:Right, right, right.
Guest:I think it was that, even though they were so different.
Marc:And what was your issue when you did that movie about, wasn't there some issue between you and Sacha Baron Cohen?
Marc:What was that about?
Guest:That was, well, he did, I guess he did, he did, was it Bruno or some shit?
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:Where he had one scene where he adopts the baby and the baby comes out of the baggage claim.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And I already did the movie, you know, where I adopt a black baby.
Guest:Right.
Guest:My whole movie is called Adopt It, where I go to Africa to adopt a black baby.
Guest:Right.
Guest:And I just kind of went out.
Guest:I think I did an interview or something saying that he stole my idea.
Guest:Right.
Guest:You know, because I did it first.
Guest:Right.
Guest:But then it turned into like some publicity thing.
Guest:But I don't really think that he stole it from me.
Marc:Right.
Guest:Like Down Deep Inside.
Guest:I think that it was more like, it was just like a generic kind of.
Marc:Joke.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Generic thing.
Guest:And I did a whole movie about it, yet he just didn't.
Guest:So you didn't pursue it?
Guest:No, absolutely not.
Guest:I was just kind of fucking with him.
Marc:And what was the Pauly Shore is dead thing?
Marc:Was that a publicity campaign, kind of?
Guest:No, that was me trying to come up with a really funny idea to answer my fans of what happened to me.
Guest:oh really yeah because what happened was is i was doing movies for every every year for a long time yeah and then i stopped doing movies because the box office went down and you couldn't get movies no i couldn't get movies it was just like it was it was like i had a good run it was like oh my god like like i did six in a row yeah i rock and did the whole thing and then but people the normal people like the people in the midwest no they're like what what
Guest:So I did a make-believe story about what I thought, about what I wanted people to think happened to me.
Guest:So it's all make-believe, but it stemmed from the truth.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Which, you know, like Carrot Top moving into my house and me parking cars at the club and me almost running over Mini-Me.
Guest:It was just kind of like a mockumentary.
Guest:Right.
Guest:You know?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And what's this show you got coming up?
Marc:What's Polytics?
Guest:Yeah, Polytics is I love politics.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:I mean, maybe people might not know that, but when I'm at home, that's all I do is I watch these fucking idiots.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I mean, the whole thing is it's like a popularity contest.
Guest:So myself and Showtime agreed, like, let's do the next special in D.C.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So I'm shooting it at the 930 Club, and it's pretty much going to be comics and then me, you know, with politicians, news anchors.
Guest:Like, I'm talking to Larry King right now to do some stuff.
Guest:And he's doing stand-up.
Guest:Not stand-up.
Marc:But I thought he was.
Marc:Oh, is he?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:That would be awesome.
Guest:I hear he's doing stand-up.
Guest:Maybe I can ask him to do some stand-up on it.
Guest:No, he just did a stand-up show somewhere.
Guest:Oh, wow.
Guest:I didn't know that.
Guest:I was going to do a walk and talk with him.
Guest:yeah well he's great yeah he's yeah he's unbelievable um i talked to uh tucker carlson yesterday i know but but that's what's but i want it the thing is i want to have enough redneck comics enough liberal right i mean yeah yeah i want it to be like right on the fence right and um because i think that'll create that kind of what the fuck did you talk to tucker carlson about
Guest:About him being on the special.
Marc:Okay.
Guest:About doing like a walk and talk with me.
Guest:He's going to do it?
Guest:He's getting back to me on it, yeah.
Guest:Oh, yeah?
Guest:He's got to talk to his people at Fox.
Guest:Got to ask his bow tie?
Guest:Yeah, his bow tie.
Guest:Do you do any political shit?
Guest:Yeah, of course.
Guest:What do you have?
Guest:I have a rap.
Guest:If you have a beat, I can lay down my new rap.
Guest:I don't have a beat.
Guest:Oh, then I can't lay it down.
Guest:You can't just riff it?
Guest:I can riff it, yeah.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:Well, it's not coming from me.
Guest:It's like this is- It's a character?
Guest:No, this is Barack Obama rapping.
Guest:Uh-oh.
Guest:Okay, I won't do it.
Guest:No, go ahead.
Guest:Because what's going to happen is Mitt Romney is going to come after Barack about the economy.
Guest:Right.
Guest:But Barack is going to come after-
Guest:Or Barack is going to tell Mitt that he's going to come after him because Obama got Osama.
Guest:That's his go-to.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So Obama wrote a rap that he's going to sing to Mitt Romney at the debates.
Guest:Did you get Barack to agree to this?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:He's here tonight.
Guest:He's here right now.
Guest:He's in the other room.
Guest:Do you want him to come out and do it?
Guest:I would love that.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:Yo, what's up, motherfuckers?
Guest:This is Barack Hussein Obama.
Guest:You got to give me some type of beat, motherfucker.
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:Can you do something?
Guest:Do something, motherfucker.
Marc:Come on.
Marc:Anything.
Guest:Here we go.
Guest:I don't know what's the beat.
Guest:Obama got Osama.
Guest:Yes, I did.
Guest:Obama got Osama because you couldn't care.
Guest:Obama got Osama.
Guest:You know it's true.
Guest:Obama got Osama.
Guest:Bush, fuck you.
Guest:What do you think?
Guest:That's good, man.
Guest:You going to open with that?
Guest:No, I'm not going to open with it.
Marc:You going to close with it?
Guest:No, don't worry about it.
Guest:It's going to be a fucking home run.
Guest:I'm working the whole thing out.
Guest:Did you save some money?
No.
Guest:What?
Guest:Nothing, nothing.
Guest:Oh, shit.
Guest:No, no, no.
Guest:It's okay.
Guest:What are you talking about?
Guest:I'm just curious.
Guest:Yeah, I saved some money.
Marc:Okay.
Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marc:In the whole life that you've had, outside of Sam and outside of Lenny Schultz, who are the guys that really you'll never forget?
Guest:um i have to say um like i come i mean a lot of people know me from you i mean i was very inspired when i was on mtv yeah you know and i've always loved music i mean when i was a kid my brother scott used to own the roxy in pacific beach did he yeah in pacific beach right i don't know so my first it's not there anymore it's like a fucking post office now
Guest:My first concert as a kid was Iggy Pop.
Guest:Oh my God.
Guest:You know, 79.
Guest:Wow.
Guest:You know, so I've been, I've been just, you know, cheap trick.
Guest:And so I was, to answer your question, mostly inspired by, um, by musicians.
Marc:Some comics.
Marc:I love Iggy Pop.
Guest:yeah some yeah and you were you were backstage like 79 so you're like what 15 or something or whatever i don't know and you're being it was your brother's club so you could just go in yeah sister sledge played there wow that was pretty cool so the clash i saw the clash a lot i was very inspired by joe strummer i saw the english beat open for the clash in 81 at the palladium wow that was pretty sick
Guest:I was obsessed with X, the band X, the punk band X. They were from here, yeah.
Guest:Yeah, Billy Zoom.
Guest:He used to, you obviously know what a mod is.
Marc:There's a lot of people that don't know what a mod is.
Marc:The mod, when it came back around in the 70s, the sort of well-dressed cat.
Marc:70s, 80s, yeah.
Guest:English thing.
Guest:So Billy Zoom, he used to make these kind of windshields for the scooters.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And they were called like Zoom shields or whatever they were.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And I used to help him make them.
Guest:He used to live off of Sunset and Sierra Bonita.
Guest:And I was like his little helper.
Guest:Oh, really?
Guest:So I was obsessed with Billy Zoom.
Guest:I was like, you know, kind of like Michael Jordan.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know, with the kid on the Coca-Cola commercial.
Guest:I was like obsessed.
Guest:I would help him make his like shields.
Guest:Really?
Guest:I was so into it.
Guest:Were you all modded out?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:How old were you then?
Marc:Do you remember?
Guest:I was probably a freshman in school, so I was like 14, 15.
Marc:All right, so that's fucking cool.
Marc:That's awesome.
Marc:But seeing the comics, obviously, you know, Sam had a big influence on everybody, and Lenny Schultz was your childhood hero, but who were some of the other ones?
Guest:Well, you know, Richard, Eddie Murphy.
Guest:I loved Eddie Murphy.
Guest:I mean, I thought Eddie Murphy was really funny.
Guest:And he came to the store a lot for a while, didn't he?
Guest:Yeah, it was interesting because I remember when Eddie Murphy was there, Richard Pryor would maybe not go on or tell his people to tell Eddie's people to leave because he thought that Eddie Murphy was stealing his material.
Guest:Really?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Interesting.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:That was pretty heavy.
Guest:That is heavy.
Guest:Yeah, it was for real, for real.
Guest:Because Eddie was such a big star, like bigger than anyone ever, ever, like bigger.
Guest:And even though Eddie Murphy worshipped Richard Pryor, Richard Pryor still didn't want Eddie around, you know what I mean?
Guest:Yep.
Guest:But then they did that movie where they played like 50s gangsters.
Marc:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marc:What was that, something, Nights or something?
Marc:Yeah, Harlem Nights or something.
Marc:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marc:Well, that's fucking wild, man.
Marc:Iggy Pop, though.
Marc:He was wild.
Guest:He was so wild.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:He was awesome.
Marc:All right, so I think we're good.
Marc:You feel good?
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're good.
Guest:Thanks for having me.
Guest:Absolutely, Pauly.
Guest:Good talking.
Guest:Wait, wait, wait.
Guest:I got to do a weasel, bro.
Guest:Do it, bro.
Guest:I mean, come on.
Guest:People want to see that shit, dude.
Guest:It's nostalgia, motherfucker.
Guest:Yo, bro, it's the Weasel and the Jew.
Guest:Buddy, because I'm in a custom to Major Montage.
Guest:See?
Guest:That's like going in the time machine.
Guest:That's what I'm saying, bro.
Guest:All right, bye.
Guest:Hot tub weasel machine, bro.
Guest:Yeah.
Yeah.
Marc:All right, that's our show.
Marc:That's Pauly.
Marc:I got as much Pauly as I could get.
Marc:I got as deep as I can get.
Marc:And his show, that Pauly Tick Show, I believe is airing on Showtime, if you want to check that out.
Marc:What else have I got?
Marc:Aside from a nicotine lozenge in my mouth at this point, how about Philadelphia Helium Comedy Club, December 6th through 8th?
Marc:I'm coming back to Denix to eat a roast pork provolone broccoli rave sandwich just lightly dressed with some olive and oil.
Marc:Denix, I think, is the name of the one I'm looking for.
Marc:Also, go to WTFPod.com for all your WTFPod needs.
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Marc:I worked with Gina Gershon this week.
Marc:She's on an episode of my show.
Marc:That was lovely.
Marc:Why am I telling you it's at the end of the show?
Marc:You know, you think I'd put that at the beginning of the show.
Marc:I know you guys are wondering what I've been doing.
Marc:You want more details.
Marc:I know.
Marc:I know you do.
Marc:I feel you.