Episode 266 - Jeffrey Tambor

Episode 266 • Released March 28, 2012 • Speakers detected

00:00:00Guest:Lock the game!

00:00:07Guest:Are we doing this?

00:00:08Guest:Really?

00:00:08Guest:Wait for it.

00:00:09Guest:Are we doing this?

00:00:10Guest:Wait for it.

00:00:12Guest:How?

00:00:12Guest:What the fuck?

00:00:13Guest:What would you be in?

00:00:14Guest:And it's also, eh, what the fuck?

00:00:16Guest:What's wrong with me?

00:00:17Guest:It's time for WTF?

00:00:19Guest:What the fuck?

00:00:21With Marcus Madden.

00:00:21Guest:All right, let's do this, what the fuckers.

00:00:34What the fuck buddies, what the fucking ears.

00:00:35Guest:What the fucking Austinites.

00:00:35Guest:We're live, what are you doing?

00:00:36Guest:South by Southwest, Austin, Texas.

00:00:39Guest:The hipster Alamo.

00:00:39Guest:All right, I'm very excited to be here.

00:00:40Guest:How are you?

00:00:41Marc:I was out here earlier, but this is the stage me.

00:00:44Marc:That was casual with me out before.

00:00:46Marc:Now I'm all juiced up and ready to go.

00:00:48Marc:It's going to be a good show.

00:00:50Marc:Jeffrey Tambor is going to be here momentarily.

00:00:55Marc:But I need you to temper your excitement with the reality that I'm going to make it about me for about 10 minutes.

00:01:02Marc:Aww, yeah.

00:01:03Marc:I'm a little punchy, I'm a little tired, and I have a headache.

00:01:06Marc:I just wanted to let you in on that.

00:01:07Marc:In the name of transparency, that's where I'm at.

00:01:10Marc:I flew in from Minneapolis this morning, didn't sleep much because they took away a fucking hour, and I don't know how that works for anybody.

00:01:18Marc:It's just stupid, and it should be stopped.

00:01:21Marc:See, I stand for things.

00:01:26Marc:Let's just read a few emails because I do this on my live shows.

00:01:30Marc:Proper meet and greet etiquette.

00:01:31Marc:Dear Mr. Marin.

00:01:33Marc:Well, that's already off to a good start.

00:01:36Marc:You know, some people just take this sort of, hey, Marin, which is fine, but Mr. Marin.

00:01:40Marc:Friend of mine and I will be seeing you at the live What the Fuck on March 17th in Grand Rapids.

00:01:44Marc:If we do get the chance to meet you, I was wondering about your preferred method for people to greet you.

00:01:49Marc:Handshake?

00:01:51Marc:Respectful bow?

00:01:53Marc:Hadn't thought of that one.

00:01:56Marc:But see, the hubris.

00:01:57Marc:I'm like, that's not a bad idea.

00:02:00Marc:A hug, perhaps?

00:02:01Marc:I know that when I'm meeting large groups of unknown people, germs can become a concern.

00:02:09Marc:As I wish not to make a fool of myself, I figured I would ask as to your personal taste on the issue.

00:02:14Marc:Looking forward to the show.

00:02:16Guest:Best regards, Dave.

00:02:17Guest:And if I could just address Dave directly, don't approach me at all.

00:02:22Guest:Like the confused guy going in for the hug.

00:02:27Marc:Hey, I think the guy emailed you.

00:02:28Marc:What are we gonna do?

00:02:30Marc:Where do you wanna go with this?

00:02:35Guest:This one, the sad thing about this email is I think it's real.

00:02:38Marc:Subject line, panel opportunity.

00:02:42Marc:Hey Mark, I love your podcast and have listened to every single episode.

00:02:45Marc:It is always one of the highlights of my week.

00:02:48Marc:I'm getting married in late August in Santa Barbara, and instead of a band or music, we prefer news and spoken word.

00:02:56Marc:Wait, no, I swear this is real.

00:03:01Marc:I would love to have a panel with you, Louis C.K., Ira Glass, and Rachel Maddow at the wedding.

00:03:12Marc:What are the chances you're interested in and would help me get the others interested?

00:03:17Marc:Andy, are you out of your fucking mind?

00:03:20Marc:I can't.

00:03:24Marc:I can't even get Louie on the phone anymore, number one.

00:03:27Marc:Number two, Rachel Maddow.

00:03:28Marc:I'm going to call Rachel Maddow.

00:03:30Marc:Hey, Rachel, we worked together a few years ago.

00:03:32Marc:There's this guy in Santa Barbara.

00:03:34Marc:He just wants us to hang out at his wedding and talk to each other.

00:03:37Marc:And I'm going to call Ira Glass.

00:03:38Marc:It should be really fun.

00:03:39Marc:You in?

00:03:39Marc:I guess people would talk about that wedding, but what would they say about it?

00:03:44Marc:That was peculiar.

00:03:47Marc:I like all those people, but the wedding...

00:03:53Marc:You graced my dreams last night, then the world ended.

00:03:57Guest:Yeah, I understand.

00:04:00Marc:I like the dreams, because I'm starting to pick through the ones that I've decided are real because of specific turns of phrase.

00:04:06Marc:Hey, Mark, last night I dreamed that I was a guest on the podcast.

00:04:09Marc:I was very excited and nervous to be on the show, and after about 15 minutes, we realized that the record button was never pushed.

00:04:16Marc:You decided that the interview up to that point was not so great, so you called it quits.

00:04:20Guest:The next thing I knew, I was in a post-apocalyptic world where I lived with a small group of people in the attic of a convenience store.

00:04:28Marc:It's gotta be real.

00:04:31Marc:All right, there's a better dream.

00:04:32Marc:There's a better one.

00:04:34Marc:Weird dream.

00:04:35Marc:Hey, Marc Maron.

00:04:37Marc:I just woke up from a dream where you were my neighbor.

00:04:39Marc:I saw you at the bar down the street and thought I should say hi, but when I did, you were so determined to be an asshole that I ended up yelling cocksucker at you as I stormed away in tears.

00:04:48Marc:I guess you felt bad because a few minutes later you showed up at my place.

00:04:52Marc:What started out as a semi-apology slowly morphed into a confrontational rant about how I had no right to approach you when you were playing video poker.

00:05:03Guest:And that's when I woke up.

00:05:07Guest:Sorry my subconscious thinks you're a dick.

00:05:09Guest:Love, Julian.

00:05:12Guest:This one's just weird.

00:05:14Guest:It just says binge eating.

00:05:18Guest:I can't stop.

00:05:19Guest:I won't pause long enough to decipher what emotional void I'm trying to fill.

00:05:24Guest:The key to binge eating rationalization is restrictions.

00:05:28Guest:This is all written like a poem, by the way.

00:05:31Guest:Binge eat vegetarian style, binge eat low carb, binge eat non-processed foods, etc.

00:05:38Guest:Add structure to binge eating and it goes way too far.

00:05:41Guest:And then he lists what he ate.

00:05:44Guest:Tonight.

00:05:48Guest:A full-filling normal American adult-sized dinner.

00:05:54Guest:That's fucking poetry.

00:05:56Guest:A full-filling normal American adult-sized dinner.

00:06:00Guest:A half container of Sabra jalapeno hummus, one bag of tortilla chips, a half pound of baby carrots, two Reese's cups, one ginger soda, eight clementines, two bananas, two bowls of peanut butter panda puff cereal with almond milk, one Twix bar, but there's no animals in there.

00:06:16Marc:God damn it.

00:06:21Marc:That's all.

00:06:22Marc:I mean, I didn't expect big laughs, but I expected you to take in that guy's expression of himself.

00:06:33Guest:Acme, cunt.

00:06:36Guest:Subject line.

00:06:39Guest:It's referring to a comedy club, not the pinnacle of cunt.

00:06:43Guest:Yesterday, I was at my wife's parents.

00:06:48Marc:I'd say in-laws, but that sounds too permanent.

00:06:50Marc:Later that night... Boy, don't step on those laugh lines, Marky.

00:07:00Marc:Later that night, I went to take my contacts out, but could not find the saline.

00:07:03Marc:The wife wouldn't tell me where it was.

00:07:05Marc:One thing led to another, and I screamed at her, eventually calling her a cunt.

00:07:09Marc:This upset her sleeping mother...

00:07:15Guest:Anyhow, we'll be at your late show Saturday night at Acme.

00:07:18Guest:If you could put in a good word for me, that would be swell.

00:07:21Guest:Yours in love and squalor, Tony in Minneapolis.

00:07:24Guest:Tony, I'm sorry I missed the opportunity, but I think you're the cunt.

00:07:28Marc:All right, last one.

00:07:30Marc:Another kind of women issue here.

00:07:34Marc:Keep up the great work.

00:07:35Marc:Mark, I was going to write a long email, but I decided against it.

00:07:38Marc:Here's the short version.

00:07:39Marc:I hate my wife.

00:07:42Marc:I love my kids.

00:07:43Marc:I've been in the Air Force for 18 years.

00:07:45Marc:I'm in England.

00:07:46Marc:Your show is awesome.

00:07:47Marc:I love your podcast.

00:07:48Marc:I miss my home state of California.

00:07:50Marc:You're a funny-ass motherfucker.

00:07:52Marc:My wife is fucking nuts.

00:07:53Marc:I don't like her very much.

00:07:55Marc:Take care.

00:07:56Marc:Women are the devil.

00:07:57Marc:Jason.

00:08:03Marc:All right.

00:08:03Marc:Well, that's good.

00:08:04Marc:I think everybody feels good and happy, and I feel good.

00:08:08Marc:I think it's nice to end on those upbeat emails.

00:08:13Marc:And now let's bring out my guest.

00:08:16Guest:You know him for many things, probably most likely the Larry Sanders show, the rest of development, and everything else he's done in his illustrious acting career.

00:08:24Guest:Please welcome Jeffrey Tambor to the stage.

00:08:26Thank you.

00:08:42Marc:How are you?

00:08:43Guest:It's none of your business.

00:08:44Guest:Okay.

00:08:49Marc:How are you?

00:09:04Marc:Okay.

00:09:04Marc:What was this thing you did earlier?

00:09:06Guest:Oh, I was at the, I guess it's called the acting workshop.

00:09:12Guest:And I've done it a number of years.

00:09:15Guest:I think this is my fifth year.

00:09:17Guest:Your 50th year?

00:09:18Guest:50th year here.

00:09:21Guest:I'm going to be my fucking 50th year.

00:09:24Guest:My fifth year.

00:09:24Guest:Okay, okay.

00:09:26Guest:Here.

00:09:26Guest:And it's the young actors and directors and writers, and it's fun.

00:09:34Guest:They seem to be very eager.

00:09:35Guest:It went well, right?

00:09:36Yeah.

00:09:37Guest:And I love doing it.

00:09:38Guest:It's the most eager, wonderful audience you could have.

00:09:41Guest:Do you like to... I gotta go pretty soon.

00:09:43Guest:Yeah, I know.

00:09:43Guest:It's gone.

00:09:44Guest:Yeah, only a couple more minutes.

00:09:45Guest:It's been really good so far.

00:09:46Guest:I have a 4.30 out.

00:09:50Guest:You hear that?

00:09:51Guest:Actors do that.

00:09:52Guest:I have a 4.30 out.

00:09:55Guest:It's non-negotiable.

00:09:56Guest:I gotta go.

00:09:56Guest:Oh, really?

00:09:57Guest:No, I gotta go.

00:09:58Guest:No, my people.

00:09:59Guest:Oh, fuck.

00:09:59Guest:Your people?

00:10:00Guest:Are they right there?

00:10:01Guest:Are you Jewish?

00:10:02Guest:Yes, I am.

00:10:02Guest:Okay.

00:10:03Okay.

00:10:05Marc:I am a Jew.

00:10:06Guest:And I call myself a Jew.

00:10:08Guest:Do you call yourself a Jew?

00:10:09Guest:Do you say it with that tone?

00:10:10Guest:When people go, what are you?

00:10:11Guest:You go, I'm a Jew.

00:10:13Guest:How do you say it?

00:10:15Guest:Oh, our neighbors called us dirty Jews.

00:10:18Guest:Of course they did.

00:10:20Guest:We were conservative.

00:10:21Guest:We were brought up in San Francisco.

00:10:24Guest:I didn't see, like, I had no idea that you were from here.

00:10:26Guest:No, I'm still talking.

00:10:26Guest:Okay, I'm sorry.

00:10:27Okay.

00:10:30Guest:And my parents were Orthodox.

00:10:34Guest:Really?

00:10:34Marc:And they brought you up conservative?

00:10:36Marc:That seems ridiculous.

00:10:37Guest:So I've come here and you're going to talk badly about my parents?

00:10:40Guest:I don't understand that warmth and that, but that's okay.

00:10:43Guest:No, they couldn't afford to be Orthodox.

00:10:46Guest:And they came from St.

00:10:47Guest:Paul and New York.

00:10:50Guest:I was just in Minnesota.

00:10:51Guest:There used to be a lot of Jews up there.

00:10:54Guest:You know what they need in Minnesota?

00:10:55Guest:What?

00:10:56Guest:Moles.

00:10:56Guest:Yeah, I think so.

00:10:58Guest:They should probably think about building a really big one.

00:11:00Guest:Yeah, yeah.

00:11:01Guest:A big mole.

00:11:02Guest:Have you done that one?

00:11:02Guest:It's horrendous.

00:11:04Guest:It's horrendous.

00:11:04Guest:It's a huge mole.

00:11:05Guest:But San Francisco, you grew up, you were there as a kid?

00:11:08Guest:Yeah.

00:11:08Guest:And what year was that in general?

00:11:12Guest:You've heard of the earthquake, right?

00:11:15Guest:Yeah, after that.

00:11:16Guest:1906 earthquake.

00:11:17Guest:Right, yeah.

00:11:18Guest:No, I was born in 1944.

00:11:20Guest:And you grew up in San Francisco, because that was, like, first of all, I lived there for two years.

00:11:24Guest:This is the most fucking uncomfortable chair I have ever been in.

00:11:27Guest:This is not a chair, it's a life.

00:11:31God.

00:11:31Guest:But they look so inviting.

00:11:33Guest:It's not inviting.

00:11:34Guest:It's like a personality.

00:11:37Guest:It's like a thing.

00:11:38Guest:I grew up, I went to Aptis Junior High School.

00:11:41Guest:I went to Lincoln High School and San Francisco State.

00:11:45Guest:When you were like a kid, though, was there the... Because I know the Beatniks were there and there was a lot of things going on.

00:11:50Guest:Were you aware of it?

00:11:51Guest:Oh, yeah.

00:11:51Guest:I went to those clubs with people who just...

00:11:54Guest:Did you when you were like 14, 15?

00:11:57Guest:Yeah.

00:11:58Guest:Was it fun?

00:11:58Guest:Hung out with Lord Buckley, Miles Davis, Lenny Bruce?

00:12:02Guest:Miles Davis?

00:12:03Guest:I went to a Miles Davis concert.

00:12:05Guest:I was in the first row, and I had Miles Davis right up there.

00:12:11Guest:And you know what he did?

00:12:12Guest:What?

00:12:12Guest:He turned his fucking back on me.

00:12:14Guest:No.

00:12:15Guest:Yeah, I didn't know that.

00:12:16Guest:So he turned his back, and after his solo, he left the stage.

00:12:19Guest:Yeah.

00:12:20Guest:What are you laughing at?

00:12:21Guest:Because I think you're funny.

00:12:22Guest:It's awful.

00:12:24Guest:I was with my date, Connie.

00:12:26Guest:Shut up.

00:12:28Guest:And the guy left.

00:12:29Guest:I mean, I've never seen it, but he was very... I later found out that that was a thing that... It wasn't so much contemptuous.

00:12:35Guest:It was that that was his deal to get in his own music.

00:12:39Guest:To alienate the audience completely so he knew what he had to do.

00:12:42Guest:No, I think to do his music.

00:12:44Guest:I kind of understand that.

00:12:45Guest:But you were offended at the moment?

00:12:47Guest:Always.

00:12:47Guest:Did you turn...

00:12:49Guest:I'm always offended.

00:12:50Guest:I'm offended usually.

00:12:53Guest:I don't get it.

00:12:53Guest:I love acting.

00:12:55Guest:I just don't get it.

00:12:56Guest:Really?

00:12:56Guest:No, I don't get people.

00:12:58Guest:I don't understand.

00:12:59Guest:But you seem to understand.

00:13:01Guest:Kind of.

00:13:04Guest:When did you start acting?

00:13:05Guest:I mean, how old were you?

00:13:07Guest:I lived across the street from San Francisco State, and I used to go over there, I guess around 11 or 12, 13.

00:13:13Guest:And what was it that drew you to it?

00:13:14Guest:I mean, was there an event?

00:13:16Guest:Really?

00:13:17Guest:You really want to know?

00:13:18Guest:Well, if you want to tell me.

00:13:19Guest:Oh, I'm here.

00:13:20Guest:Okay.

00:13:22Guest:I watched these actors perform.

00:13:24Guest:I guess they seemed to me like 80 years old.

00:13:26Guest:I guess in retrospect they were 17, 18.

00:13:29Guest:And they were nice.

00:13:30Guest:They said, what do you think, kid?

00:13:34Guest:And I'd say, well, I think it's good because I had a lisp.

00:13:39Guest:I talked like Gus Gus in Cinderella.

00:13:42Guest:I think it's good.

00:13:43Guest:And they'd say, what?

00:13:44Guest:And I'd say, I think it's good.

00:13:47Guest:It was awful.

00:13:48Guest:And they said, well, you have any notes?

00:13:51Guest:I said, I don't have any notes.

00:13:53Guest:I just really keep practicing.

00:13:58Guest:Finally, they took pity on me.

00:14:00Guest:They would let me, maybe it wasn't pity, because they had me strike the set.

00:14:07Guest:It's an opportunity.

00:14:07Guest:Or as I called it, strike, you want me to strike the set?

00:14:10Guest:The first girl I asked to go steady had no idea what I was saying.

00:14:16Guest:Well, I said, do you want to go steady?

00:14:17Guest:And she went, I have no idea what you were saying.

00:14:21Guest:How did you get rid of that list?

00:14:22Guest:Joe Mitzak, San Francisco State College, literally taught me how to speak.

00:14:27Guest:And I'm positive that's why I'm an actor.

00:14:29Guest:Well, no one could fucking understand me.

00:14:32Guest:I have no expression.

00:14:33Guest:Because I was going around like this, and people were like, you understand what this guy says?

00:14:37No.

00:14:37Guest:Really?

00:14:38Guest:It's true.

00:14:39Guest:But did people make fun of you too?

00:14:41Guest:Oh, no.

00:14:42Guest:It's so easy.

00:14:44Guest:Oh, no.

00:14:44Guest:They didn't make fun of me when I talked like this.

00:14:48Guest:And I weighed 500 pounds and I was 11 years old.

00:14:50Guest:Holy shit.

00:14:51Guest:You weighed 500 pounds?

00:14:52Guest:No, I didn't.

00:14:53Guest:I was heavy.

00:14:54Guest:You were heavy?

00:14:54Guest:Yeah.

00:14:55Guest:I was Gus Gus in Cinderella.

00:14:58Guest:Fine.

00:14:58Guest:When I saw Cinderella, I went, that's me.

00:15:01Guest:You guys know Cinderella?

00:15:03Guest:Walt Disney Cinderella?

00:15:05Guest:Gus Gus?

00:15:08Marc:I knew a guy that talked like that in high school and his name was Mike Virch.

00:15:12Marc:It was V-E-R-T-Z.

00:15:14Guest:That was his name.

00:15:16Guest:What's your name?

00:15:16Guest:Mike Virch.

00:15:17Guest:And he couldn't even say his name.

00:15:18Guest:I'm playing in Shakespeare.

00:15:20Guest:There's an actor named George Eby.

00:15:22Guest:God bless him.

00:15:23Guest:And he was playing Caesar.

00:15:25Guest:And I still had my lisp.

00:15:27Guest:And I was walking out.

00:15:29Guest:And it was the first rehearsal.

00:15:30Guest:Mr. Tyrrell, the director, was out there.

00:15:32Guest:Georgie B. Handsome, Leonine Hare, San Francisco.

00:15:36Guest:And he said, Who be thou?

00:15:38Guest:Or something like that.

00:15:41Guest:And my line was, Der Seitas I am called.

00:15:43Guest:And I said, Der Seitas I am called.

00:15:47Guest:you are doing what george eb did you're still doing what george eb did he went to the ground pounding pounding you know and that kind of that that kind of laugh where you go was it on a performance night i mean no it was the first rehearsal

00:16:12Guest:So, and I remember going, clicking my head, saying, George Eby, I will take you fucking down.

00:16:23Guest:And it became a whole career concept for me.

00:16:25Guest:Really?

00:16:26Guest:Every morning, I'm going to get George Eby.

00:16:29Guest:So it was all out of spite against George Eby.

00:16:31Guest:My whole career is based on...

00:16:33Guest:Getting even with Georgie.

00:16:35Guest:Did you get even?

00:16:36Guest:But I kind of believe in that.

00:16:37Guest:I kind of believe that actors and directors and everybody has to have a concept that's alive like that in a way, not to get serious.

00:16:44Guest:You mean like spite?

00:16:45Guest:Well, something's strong.

00:16:47Guest:Otherwise, the work doesn't get done.

00:16:49Guest:No, I've driven by spite.

00:16:51Guest:Did you really feel like you were driven by spite?

00:16:53Guest:Not spite, but what is spite?

00:16:56Guest:Oh.

00:16:58Guest:Hey, come on.

00:16:59Guest:They're talking about spite.

00:17:00Guest:Yeah.

00:17:00Yeah.

00:17:01Guest:Spite is like, fuck that guy, I can do that.

00:17:04Guest:Yeah, that's Spite.

00:17:05Guest:Yeah, that's me.

00:17:11Guest:So it was Spite.

00:17:12Guest:It was Spite.

00:17:15Guest:So when you started, did you live in New York?

00:17:17Guest:Did you do Broadway and all that stuff?

00:17:18Guest:No, I did.

00:17:19Guest:I went around the country doing regional theater.

00:17:23Guest:Like dinner theater?

00:17:24Guest:No.

00:17:25Guest:If I was a dinner theater, I would say dinner theater.

00:17:28Guest:I did regional theater, like Milwaukee Repertory Theater, Louisville Rep, Seattle Rep, Old Globe Theater in San Diego.

00:17:37Guest:How does that work?

00:17:38Guest:Did someone book you?

00:17:39Guest:I mean, do you audition for shows?

00:17:40Guest:I did it on one audition for the

00:17:43Guest:Theater theater group in Chicago a four-minute audition It's actually a great story.

00:17:50Guest:Okay.

00:17:51Guest:It's a good I'm walking down and I knew it was a disease my name's tambour and I'm gonna be last I'm walking down and I went into register.

00:18:00Guest:This is an audition for every artistic director in the United States It's like a conference kind of situation.

00:18:07Guest:It's big and it's four minutes and They said

00:18:11Guest:They said, as I turned in my slip, they said, oh, by the way, we've changed it.

00:18:15Guest:It's Z to A. You're on.

00:18:19Guest:I didn't rehearse.

00:18:21Guest:I walked right on stage and did my audition with no preparation.

00:18:25Guest:It's the best four-minute audition I've ever done, and I worked for 12 years off that.

00:18:31Guest:What was the piece?

00:18:32Guest:What's the lesson?

00:18:33Guest:What was the piece?

00:18:35Guest:No, I want to talk about the lesson.

00:18:38Guest:The piece was...

00:18:41Guest:Chekhov's the Boer and Edward II.

00:18:44Guest:In four minutes?

00:18:46Guest:Four minutes.

00:18:47Guest:And what's the lesson?

00:18:50Guest:Preparation sometimes can work against you.

00:18:52Guest:Sometimes in the moment.

00:18:54Guest:Sometimes you got it.

00:18:56Guest:Sometimes we worry too much.

00:18:57Guest:I spent a career.

00:19:00Guest:At the beginning, I don't know about you.

00:19:01Guest:Well, you're still working on Spite.

00:19:03Guest:Yeah.

00:19:04Guest:Spite and panic.

00:19:05Guest:I spent a great deal of my career worrying.

00:19:08Guest:I remember once doing... Do you remember Hill Street Blues?

00:19:10Guest:Yes.

00:19:12Guest:I did Hill Street Blues, and I remember running after I did the shot.

00:19:16Guest:And I was running, and I was going over my lines, and I stopped because I said...

00:19:19Guest:i just shot that scene what the am i running the lines for and it was a real moment for me because i worried a lot do you worry i do worry i i worry less now what are you worried about well i'm worried about how this is going you're not going well no it's going great are you happy not really all right but i'm a conservative jew yeah i was conservative as well reformed jews are happy yeah that's because they're christians

00:19:51Guest:That's really good.

00:19:54Guest:That's the first funny thing you said.

00:19:57Guest:Now, you're very funny.

00:19:58Guest:I was listening to you, and I went, that guy is funny.

00:20:00Guest:Oh, thank God.

00:20:02Guest:So what do you do for a living?

00:20:02Guest:I do stand-up comedy.

00:20:05Guest:I do stand-up comedy, and I host a podcast.

00:20:07Guest:You're very big, because I said I was doing a show, and people go, oh!

00:20:11Guest:Oh, really?

00:20:11Guest:Yeah, you're cool school.

00:20:12Guest:Oh, what?

00:20:13Guest:Hey, I got a cool school thing.

00:20:14Guest:How much time do we have?

00:20:16Guest:As long as you need.

00:20:18Guest:Is this going to take maybe half an hour?

00:20:19Guest:I have a heart out at 4.30.

00:20:21Guest:Heart out at 4.30.

00:20:21Marc:Can we push that a little bit?

00:20:23Guest:Yeah.

00:20:24Okay.

00:20:27Guest:Arrested Development.

00:20:28Guest:I'm familiar with the show.

00:20:34Guest:They are going to do, speaking of cool school, they are going to do 10 pod, not podcasts.

00:20:43Guest:Webisodes.

00:20:44Guest:Webisodes on?

00:20:45Guest:The internet.

00:20:48Guest:no no i'm just i'm throwing stuff out there netflix you know what happens when everybody talks at once it's not clear what netflix isn't that cool school they said netflix

00:21:03Guest:It was awful.

00:21:04Guest:And the girl was named Janet.

00:21:06Guest:That was a Janet.

00:21:07Guest:Janet.

00:21:09Guest:Netflix.

00:21:11Guest:Yeah, Netflix.

00:21:11Guest:It's on Netflix.

00:21:12Guest:They're going to do 10 episodes on Netflix.

00:21:14Guest:Yes.

00:21:14Guest:Okay.

00:21:16Guest:Wouldn't that be funny if I just... In the movie, no?

00:21:18Guest:In the movie, no.

00:21:19Guest:Okay.

00:21:20Guest:Yes.

00:21:21Guest:Yes.

00:21:21Guest:They have to hurry because I'll be in a walker.

00:21:26Guest:I mean, it's unbelievable.

00:21:28Guest:So is this where you are all the time, or are you just coming for this?

00:21:31Guest:Me too.

00:21:32Guest:Yeah, it's fucking outrageous.

00:21:34Guest:You know where I slept last night?

00:21:37Guest:In the LBJ suite.

00:21:38Guest:That's where I am now.

00:21:41Guest:Are you fucking kidding me?

00:21:42Guest:I'm sorry.

00:21:43Marc:Yeah, they...

00:21:52Guest:Your stuff's out.

00:21:54Guest:Your stuff's out.

00:21:55Guest:He's where I was last year.

00:21:57Guest:Yeah.

00:21:57Guest:It's a bedroom where you were.

00:21:59Guest:What do you mean?

00:22:01Guest:The LBJ suite.

00:22:01Guest:The bedroom is... Did you say LBJ?

00:22:05Guest:No, I said LBJ.

00:22:07Guest:I'm in the LBJ.

00:22:08Guest:LBJ suite.

00:22:09Guest:I tried to get changed to your suite last night.

00:22:11Guest:Oh.

00:22:12Guest:Were you in it?

00:22:13Guest:No, no.

00:22:14Guest:I just got here today.

00:22:15Guest:Oh.

00:22:15Guest:They held it for me.

00:22:16Guest:You don't want to get it.

00:22:16Guest:No?

00:22:17Guest:Well, the couple in there are very nice.

00:22:19Guest:Yeah.

00:22:19Yeah.

00:22:22Guest:I was told that.

00:22:24Guest:I haven't met him yet.

00:22:25Guest:Lovely people.

00:22:26Guest:And Mr. Salzberg, I think, has sleep apricot.

00:22:35Guest:Got the machine?

00:22:35Guest:I'm being treated for sleep apnea.

00:22:37Guest:Are you really?

00:22:37Guest:Yeah.

00:22:37Guest:Do you sleep with the machine?

00:22:39Guest:Do I what?

00:22:39Guest:The machine on your face.

00:22:40Guest:Well, I don't know yet.

00:22:41Guest:I had to call.

00:22:43Guest:My wife has given me the ultimatum saying, hey, our marriage is in crisis.

00:22:47Guest:You have.

00:22:49Guest:Apparently, I stopped snoring.

00:22:51Guest:I stopped breathing.

00:22:52Guest:It's like...

00:22:55Guest:That's scary for somebody.

00:22:59Guest:And we have four little kids.

00:23:00Guest:So she said, I need my sleep.

00:23:02Guest:So I called.

00:23:03Guest:Oh, not that you're going to die.

00:23:04Guest:She needs her sleep.

00:23:06Guest:You know, that's the answer.

00:23:08Guest:I'm afraid.

00:23:08Guest:And so we called my doctor.

00:23:12Guest:And he said, well, you have to go to the sleep center.

00:23:15Guest:And I called him.

00:23:17Guest:You say, hi, Jeffrey Tambor.

00:23:18Guest:I'm the sleep center.

00:23:19Guest:Hello, Jeffrey Tambor.

00:23:21Guest:Hello, Jeffrey Tambor.

00:23:22Guest:Sleep center.

00:23:23Guest:No, you don't say that.

00:23:25Guest:You just say, I'm the sleep center.

00:23:27Guest:All right, hello, hello.

00:23:29Guest:Wait.

00:23:29Guest:Hello, sleep center.

00:23:31Guest:Hello, sleep center.

00:23:32Guest:No.

00:23:40Marc:Come on, teach me.

00:23:41Guest:I'm open to learn.

00:23:42Guest:No, you're Jeffrey Tambor.

00:23:44Guest:Well, I am, but okay, for the purposes of... So the guy said, sleep center.

00:23:49Sleep center.

00:23:50Guest:and i went i'm jeffrey tambor um yes and i said i've come uh i don't i don't i need a sleep test anyway birthday

00:24:05Guest:Really weird.

00:24:06Guest:So I said, 7, 8, 44.

00:24:09Guest:All right.

00:24:10Guest:And I said, I'm very nervous about this.

00:24:12Guest:What happens if you can't sleep?

00:24:14Guest:And he, I swear to you, he said, you'll have to come back again.

00:24:17Guest:So I have this thing where I'm going to go home and put this thing on my head, and then you hand it back to somebody, and they read it out and everything like that.

00:24:27Guest:Anybody have sleep apnea?

00:24:29Guest:I love one person who's so tired.

00:24:33Yeah.

00:24:39Marc:I meant some guy.

00:24:39Marc:You can die from it, apparently.

00:24:41Marc:You can just stop breathing entirely.

00:24:42Guest:Okay, there's this?

00:24:47Yeah.

00:24:48Guest:And then right then is where she shakes you.

00:24:51Guest:No, she doesn't shake me.

00:24:53Guest:That's it.

00:24:54Guest:You've got deeper problems in marriage.

00:24:57Guest:Well, that's conservatism.

00:24:59Marc:She's Jewish?

00:25:00Guest:No.

00:25:01Guest:Oh, I didn't think so.

00:25:02Guest:That's conservative.

00:25:02Guest:Yeah.

00:25:04Guest:The Jews enjoyed that.

00:25:05Guest:Just the Jews.

00:25:07Guest:Were you ever married to a Jew?

00:25:10Guest:No.

00:25:11Guest:I was.

00:25:11Guest:It's difficult.

00:25:14Guest:Jewish boys don't usually date Jewish girls.

00:25:18Marc:I found that when you're a Jew and you marry a Jew, that means everything you hated about going home is now in your house.

00:25:35Guest:That's true.

00:25:35Guest:Were you allowed to have a Christmas tree?

00:25:37Guest:My mother would put lights on things.

00:25:41Guest:My father wouldn't.

00:25:43Guest:Light, light, light, light, light, light, light.

00:25:45Guest:Our house.

00:25:46Guest:Light, light, light.

00:25:47Guest:That invited a lot of love, I tell you.

00:25:50Guest:She just put an Israeli flag in the lawn.

00:25:53Guest:Hi, Jew here.

00:25:58Guest:No, my mother likes the Christmas thing.

00:26:01Guest:She puts lights on stuff, but no trees.

00:26:04Guest:Are you married now?

00:26:05Guest:Easy.

00:26:06Guest:I, um... No, I mean, I had... And you said I wouldn't like you.

00:26:11Marc:That's interesting.

00:26:18Marc:I had a... I had a wife, and then that ended, and then I had another one, and that ended.

00:26:29Guest:This is my third name.

00:26:38Guest:It is?

00:26:38Guest:And I have four kids.

00:26:40Guest:But they're fresh, right?

00:26:42Guest:I mean, new.

00:26:44Guest:They're new.

00:26:45Guest:They're new.

00:26:45Guest:Don't you have young kids?

00:26:46Guest:I have an older daughter, Molly, who is Dr. Tambor.

00:26:51Guest:Really?

00:26:52Guest:She's a doctor?

00:26:53Guest:Well, not one that can cure my knee, but of European history.

00:27:00Guest:And does a great knee surgery, by the way, of European history.

00:27:04Guest:So she's a professor of some kind?

00:27:06Guest:No.

00:27:07Guest:Yes.

00:27:08Guest:What else is she?

00:27:09Guest:No, she's a butcher.

00:27:11Guest:She's a butcher.

00:27:12Guest:No, I'm not saying that she doesn't have an office.

00:27:14Guest:There's no career other than professor.

00:27:16Guest:Next, we have...

00:27:21Guest:I have a seven-year-old, Gabriel, five-year-old, Evie, and then two twin boys, Hugo and Eli.

00:27:31Guest:Now, guys, at your age... I'm Todd.

00:27:37Guest:Yeah.

00:27:45Yeah.

00:27:46Marc:Is that the question?

00:27:52Guest:No, I just wonder what it's like to have kids when you're, you know, 60-something.

00:27:57Guest:I'm 67.

00:27:58Guest:Okay.

00:27:59Guest:And it's great.

00:28:00Guest:My wife said it quite happily and quite beautiful.

00:28:04Guest:It's not everyone's life, it's my life.

00:28:06Guest:And I love it.

00:28:07Guest:It keeps me young and they're my best teachers.

00:28:09Guest:Yeah.

00:28:10Guest:Things are a little tough.

00:28:12Guest:In what way?

00:28:12Guest:Well, economically, we had to let one go.

00:28:16Guest:It was very hard, but he's landed.

00:28:19Guest:He's doing all right.

00:28:20Guest:He's got something.

00:28:21Guest:Part-time.

00:28:22Guest:Well, they're ready.

00:28:24Guest:It's hard to fire people.

00:28:28Guest:You're no longer needed here.

00:28:29Guest:Great, thank you.

00:28:31Guest:We've grown a lot since you've been here.

00:28:33Guest:Do you feel like it's a different thing than when you had the one that's a professor?

00:28:38Guest:Yeah.

00:28:39Guest:I mean, were you busier then or do you focus more now?

00:28:42Guest:Are you a better dad?

00:28:43Guest:It's so different.

00:28:45Guest:I was career with number one.

00:28:47Guest:I was away a lot.

00:28:50Guest:I did Injustice for All.

00:28:51Guest:I was on Broadway.

00:28:52Guest:Now I'm consumed by them.

00:28:58Guest:I'm more conscious.

00:28:59Guest:Well, that's great.

00:29:00Guest:Hey, they're talking about consciousness.

00:29:02Guest:Come on in.

00:29:04Guest:No, they're free.

00:29:05Guest:They're not afraid.

00:29:05Guest:They're not afraid to destroy.

00:29:07Guest:They're great.

00:29:08Guest:Yeah.

00:29:10Guest:I mean, I can't do that.

00:29:13Guest:They build something, build it, build it, and they go, ah, fuck it.

00:29:17Guest:We don't do that.

00:29:18Guest:We go... Oh, look what we did.

00:29:21Guest:Oh, oh, oh.

00:29:23Marc:Okay, I'm doing... Yeah, I'm just asking because I don't have kids.

00:29:27Marc:You know, I'm not being weird or rude.

00:29:29Guest:23 marriages and no kids.

00:29:30Guest:Interesting.

00:29:31Marc:It's interesting.

00:29:32Marc:I think the way my second wife put it was, you think I'm going to bring children into this?

00:29:38Oh.

00:29:41Marc:So that was sort of where I was at.

00:29:44Marc:But now I'm with another girl.

00:29:46Marc:What's her name?

00:29:47Marc:Jessica.

00:29:48Marc:And she's a big fan of yours and progressive development.

00:29:52Marc:But she says things like, you know, when are you going to put a baby in me?

00:29:55Marc:I think she frames it differently.

00:29:57Marc:I think it would be a better way.

00:29:58Marc:But...

00:29:59Marc:But I'm thinking about doing it, but it frightens me.

00:30:03Marc:But you don't seem frightened of it, so I'm drawing strength from you.

00:30:06Marc:And Justice for All and Broadway.

00:30:08Guest:See, I asked you if you were in New York, and you said you were in repertory, and I want to know about Broadway.

00:30:13Guest:And Justice for All, it's very interesting.

00:30:16Guest:It's a great role.

00:30:17Guest:It was hilarious and puzzling and dark and throwing plates.

00:30:22Guest:I remember it.

00:30:22Guest:I saw it when I was young, and out of the whole movie, your character had an impact on me.

00:30:27Guest:Like, I always remember the...

00:30:28Guest:beat with the hair.

00:30:29Guest:Yeah, very good.

00:30:34Guest:It was my first movie, and I was starring opposite Al Pacino.

00:30:40Guest:When he was, like, sweet.

00:30:43Guest:He's still sweet.

00:30:43Guest:I just worked with him.

00:30:45Guest:I'm doing the Phil Spector story.

00:30:47Guest:But, I mean, like, when he was young in Dog Day Afternoon, there just seemed to be a different, when he was younger, there just seems to be, like, there was a sensitivity that was amazing on screen.

00:30:55Guest:I don't know him personally.

00:30:56Guest:Where do you see him in this Phil Spector?

00:30:57Guest:I think he's in the acting panthenon.

00:30:59Guest:Is that right?

00:31:00Guest:Yeah.

00:31:00Guest:Panthenon?

00:31:01Guest:Oh, there.

00:31:01Guest:Yeah.

00:31:02Guest:Did you see the Kevorkian thing?

00:31:04Guest:This is the same producer, Barry Levinson, who was one of the writers of Injustice for All.

00:31:09Guest:And this is why God made a circle, ladies and gentlemen.

00:31:12Guest:Look at that.

00:31:13Guest:Yeah.

00:31:15Guest:This is great on radio, too.

00:31:17Guest:This is great on radio.

00:31:23Sure.

00:31:25Guest:What were you doing?

00:31:26Guest:How did you get that part and what were you doing?

00:31:29Guest:I was doing a Broadway show with George C. Scott.

00:31:34Guest:Holy shit, wait, how was that?

00:31:37Guest:Did he yell at you?

00:31:38Guest:George, once he got, yeah, once.

00:31:40Guest:I always picture him yelling all the time.

00:31:42Guest:No, he was great.

00:31:44Guest:I actually went on my overstudy, that means I was an understudy.

00:31:48Guest:I had three lines in the show.

00:31:51Guest:My line was, you look wonderful, sir.

00:31:53Guest:And I said...

00:31:54Guest:I said that three times.

00:31:56Guest:But I understudied Hector Elizondo and when one night he got sick and I went on with George and that was the night that changed my life.

00:32:04Guest:And he said, he came up to my dressing room and he said, you want to run lines?

00:32:09Guest:And I went, no thanks because at that point in my head there was no lines to run because I couldn't think of one.

00:32:16Guest:And I went out on stage that night.

00:32:19Guest:My first line was, he said something, my line was, yes sir, they're coming and going at the same time.

00:32:28Guest:And he always got a laugh when Hector did it.

00:32:31Guest:And that night he went out and I said, yes sir, they're going and coming at the same time.

00:32:39Guest:And that's what it got.

00:32:40Guest:And George looked at me.

00:32:43Guest:He gave me a look that changed my life.

00:32:45Guest:It was like, are you going to fucking do this or not?

00:32:48Guest:Because out there was Arthur Penn, the director, Larry Gelbart.

00:32:55Guest:And it was my night.

00:32:56Guest:In other words, there's moments in your life where you go, guess what?

00:33:01Guest:This is it.

00:33:02Guest:And he guided me through that night.

00:33:04Guest:and stopped the audience during the curtain call and announced that was my first night.

00:33:11Guest:And I stayed awake for two nights.

00:33:14Guest:I couldn't sleep for two nights after that.

00:33:17Guest:That's amazing.

00:33:17Guest:Life-changing.

00:33:18Guest:So Barry and Valerie Curtin saw me.

00:33:23Guest:I got that role.

00:33:25Guest:And I went in to meet Norman, Norman Jewison.

00:33:29Guest:And for some reason, the guy's crazy.

00:33:33Guest:My character.

00:33:34Guest:And for some reason, there was a pack of merits and a pack of Lucky Strikes there.

00:33:40Guest:And they said, are you nervous?

00:33:41Guest:I said, yeah, I'm nervous.

00:33:43Guest:I'm plenty nervous.

00:33:43Guest:And they said, well, you want a cigarette?

00:33:44Guest:And I said, what do you want, a merit or you want a Lucky Strike?

00:33:47Guest:And I said, and I don't know why I said this, but I said, give me the kind that killed Nat King Cole.

00:33:53Guest:I don't even know.

00:33:55Guest:It came out of nowhere?

00:33:57Guest:It came out of nowhere.

00:33:59Guest:And they looked at each other like... And I think I had the role from that moment on.

00:34:08Guest:That was it?

00:34:09Guest:Well, yeah.

00:34:09Guest:Then they said, come back Monday and reach with Al.

00:34:12Guest:And I'm driving home and go, Al, Al.

00:34:16Guest:Al Pacino and there's a bathroom scene that I have and I read it's really interesting for the younger people you know when you're young you have such a you don't have fear and I flubbed the first scene I didn't do it very well and they said oh that's good and I knew it wasn't good and I said ah don't worry about it guys we'll fix that on the set

00:34:43Guest:And exactly, they looked like, who is this guy?

00:34:46Guest:But I didn't have... And then I did the rest.

00:34:48Guest:I did all the scenes.

00:34:50Guest:I had them all memorized, which they tell you don't do.

00:34:53Guest:Always read.

00:34:54Guest:Never do that.

00:34:55Guest:Before you went in to read with Al.

00:34:57Guest:I read with Al, and I made him laugh.

00:34:59Guest:And I think that helped.

00:35:00Guest:And then I got a...

00:35:01Guest:How old were you?

00:35:02Guest:How old was I?

00:35:03Guest:35?

00:35:04Guest:And he was just like, just big star, just starting, like he was not, he was huge?

00:35:09Guest:He'd already done The Godfather, yeah.

00:35:10Guest:Oh, so he was huge.

00:35:11Guest:Yeah.

00:35:12Guest:And when you work, like when you work with someone like Al, because I mean, he's like a guy that you hear a lot about Method and you hear, you know, that he has a very specific way of working.

00:35:20Guest:How did you approach that?

00:35:21Guest:I mean, as an actor, what was your thing?

00:35:23Guest:Well, he was, he was, first of all, I think...

00:35:25Guest:It was pretty well known that I was, this is the first time.

00:35:30Guest:It really was well known the first day when I kept going out of frame.

00:35:34Guest:I had my thing and I kept going out of frame.

00:35:38Guest:And the camera operator kept going, I don't know.

00:35:41Guest:And cut, cut, cut, cut, cut.

00:35:46Guest:So anyway, they go, you have to stay in the frame.

00:35:50Guest:And they said, you're having trouble putting it on your suitcase.

00:35:56Guest:Then they said, you have to put it on something.

00:35:57Guest:And then they said, would you like an apple?

00:36:01Guest:Or a half apple?

00:36:03Guest:Which is a box.

00:36:06Guest:And I said, no thanks.

00:36:07Guest:I'll wait for lunch.

00:36:11Guest:And the crew just went...

00:36:16Guest:And from that time on, everyone was very kind to me.

00:36:21Guest:And, I mean, I didn't know what a mark was.

00:36:23Guest:I didn't know anything.

00:36:25Guest:In a way, it was great.

00:36:26Guest:I tried to quit the first night.

00:36:27Guest:Really?

00:36:28Guest:Well, I saw dailies, and I wanted to kill myself.

00:36:31Guest:Why?

00:36:31Guest:I was bad.

00:36:33Guest:But did they say you were bad?

00:36:34Guest:No, no.

00:36:35Guest:I just didn't know the art of looking at dailies.

00:36:37Guest:And I just, I remember it.

00:36:39Guest:They had to drive me around the city till 4 o'clock in the morning.

00:36:43Guest:I think I over, I think, um...

00:36:46Guest:I think I tried to do film acting and not what I do.

00:36:50Guest:What's the difference?

00:36:50Guest:And give it everything you got.

00:36:54Guest:Give all of yourself.

00:36:55Guest:Don't try to be coy.

00:36:57Guest:And the next day I got up that morning and I said, I'm going to go get fired and fuck it.

00:37:01Guest:And I gave him Jeffrey Tambor.

00:37:03Guest:It was a big lesson.

00:37:04Guest:And then that worked?

00:37:05Guest:Yeah.

00:37:06Guest:And they dug it.

00:37:07Guest:Are you able to watch yourself now?

00:37:08Mm-mm.

00:37:08Guest:Still can't.

00:37:09Guest:I don't like it.

00:37:11Guest:Well, I'm trained in the theater, so I kind of give it, and then that's it.

00:37:15Guest:But these characters that you play in general, they're unique, and you say that that one was crazy, and then you sort of evolve, and you did a lot of TV work.

00:37:24Guest:Did you like TV work?

00:37:26Guest:Some of it.

00:37:27Guest:I don't like that form where the audience, the live audience.

00:37:30Guest:I don't like it.

00:37:31Guest:I get very nervous.

00:37:33Guest:If you look at, I used to do a show called The Ropers.

00:37:37Woo!

00:37:40Guest:if you look at my eyes during that show it looks like someone put a broom up my ass i was like so scared i was so scared of going up on a line were you afraid of norman fell i love norman was he funny oh he was so funny when norman would eat lunch and the ratings would come in he would get a little sweat it made me laugh

00:38:07Guest:He was great, and Audra Lindley, and Patty.

00:38:11Guest:Yeah.

00:38:12Guest:So, like, you're one of these people, and I was one of those with actors.

00:38:15Guest:It's about 8.30, isn't it, right now?

00:38:16Marc:No.

00:38:17Marc:It's good, we're good.

00:38:18Guest:What time is it?

00:38:19Marc:It's going good.

00:38:19Marc:It's like quarter to five.

00:38:20Marc:Oh, okay.

00:38:21Guest:You know, now we have to get to the rebirth.

00:38:24Guest:You got one holding.

00:38:25Guest:I know you.

00:38:26Guest:I know you got one.

00:38:27Guest:You're holding one.

00:38:28Marc:What do you think I'm holding?

00:38:30Guest:I don't see.

00:38:31Guest:I'll tell you.

00:38:31Guest:I'll go like that when you throw it.

00:38:34Guest:When I'm supposed to drop it?

00:38:35Guest:He is a stinky guy.

00:38:35Guest:Go ahead.

00:38:36Marc:Well, what the hell happens when actors aren't working?

00:38:40Marc:Well, I've been... Why is she leaving?

00:38:42Marc:Yeah, I don't know.

00:38:43Guest:They've got other things to do.

00:38:46Guest:I love not working.

00:38:47Guest:Yeah.

00:38:48Guest:You don't panic?

00:38:49Guest:You don't freak out?

00:38:50Guest:No, I've worked all my life.

00:38:51Guest:I've been very, very lucky.

00:38:53Guest:Also, I love reading.

00:38:55Guest:Reading is my first love.

00:38:57Guest:I trust.

00:38:58Guest:I don't know why.

00:38:59Guest:I trust that I'm going to work.

00:39:01Guest:So let's talk about the Hank Kingsway thing.

00:39:05Guest:Because you're like an actor.

00:39:08Guest:You know in certain times when certain people do certain things and you see people?

00:39:13Guest:I just saw you.

00:39:14Guest:Interesting.

00:39:15Guest:How was it?

00:39:17Guest:No, but seriously, you're a very serious guy.

00:39:20Guest:Yeah.

00:39:20Guest:Yeah, go ahead.

00:39:22Guest:I just killed this fucking thing, I'm sorry.

00:39:25Guest:No, you didn't.

00:39:26Guest:There's no killing you.

00:39:27Guest:You are a very, very serious guy, are you not?

00:39:30Guest:I'm a very serious guy, hypersensitive guy, a little bit defensive.

00:39:34Guest:Yeah, I saw that.

00:39:36Guest:Yeah, because I pictured you a certain way, and you're a sort of that, you know?

00:39:40Guest:I'm sort of like how you thought I'd be?

00:39:42Guest:Yeah, yeah.

00:39:42Guest:Yeah, I thought you'd be a little more boundary-less, you know, and a little more, like, you know, I thought, like, you'd be, like, I'd feel like this amazing... Presence?

00:39:50Guest:Warmth.

00:39:51Guest:Like, you, like, you, I'd just be like, you know, like, yeah, yeah.

00:39:56Guest:Are you fucking kidding me?

00:39:57Guest:No.

00:39:59Marc:Is you kidding me?

00:40:00Marc:No, I'm not kidding you.

00:40:02Marc:See, maybe you don't find that you're a warm person.

00:40:04Marc:I have a big heart.

00:40:05Marc:Really?

00:40:05Marc:Yeah, that's it.

00:40:06Marc:Big heart thing.

00:40:07Guest:You don't get that?

00:40:08Guest:No, I didn't know what to expect because I was about to talk about Hank Kingsley because there's part of me when I interview actors that I want them to be that person.

00:40:16Guest:I am Hank Kingsley.

00:40:17Guest:Right, there's elements of that character that was so vulnerable and so big hearted and so easily hurt.

00:40:23Guest:Yeah, but I'm not like that.

00:40:24Guest:I'm not like that.

00:40:24Guest:But that was the mask.

00:40:27Guest:That's how I am.

00:40:28Guest:I'm that...

00:40:28Guest:I'm Hank.

00:40:29Guest:You are Hank, right?

00:40:30Guest:Okay, I knew it.

00:40:32Guest:But I believe Hank.

00:40:35Guest:He came at a very, very interesting time in my life.

00:40:37Guest:That's a life changer.

00:40:39Guest:What happened?

00:40:40Guest:Because Gary Shandling, Mitch Hurwitz, these guys, they really understand comedy.

00:40:46Guest:And it's the way I like it, and I loved it.

00:40:50Marc:So how did the process go?

00:40:51Marc:How did you put that thing together?

00:40:52Marc:How did you find the heart of that?

00:40:53Marc:I talked to Gary about that show, and we talked about you, and he said nothing but nice things.

00:40:58Marc:He was great.

00:40:58Marc:Even when I prodded him.

00:41:00Marc:I wanted stories.

00:41:03Guest:I understand.

00:41:04Guest:But how did you sort of find the vulnerability of that guy?

00:41:07Guest:I understood immediately.

00:41:09Guest:There are certain... It's about five times in a career where you go,

00:41:13Guest:I got that guy.

00:41:15Guest:I got that guy.

00:41:16Guest:I knew hey now.

00:41:17Guest:Hey now.

00:41:18Guest:I knew that.

00:41:20Guest:I knew.

00:41:20Guest:I believed in him.

00:41:22Guest:I believed in him.

00:41:23Guest:Remember when he took over the show or the time he wouldn't take off his yarmulke?

00:41:27Guest:I got that.

00:41:28Guest:I understand that.

00:41:30Guest:I understand that.

00:41:32Guest:And then somebody says hey Jew face and he takes his yarmulke off.

00:41:37Guest:That's his courage level.

00:41:38Guest:I understand that.

00:41:40Guest:He cries when you invite him to the card party?

00:41:45Marc:Come on.

00:41:45Guest:You know that guy.

00:41:46Marc:I know that.

00:41:46Guest:I know that sensitivity.

00:41:48Guest:That's always been my downfall.

00:41:49Guest:I'm too sensitive.

00:41:51Guest:What do you do when you get too sensitive?

00:41:52Guest:How's it been your downfall?

00:41:53Guest:Do you lash out?

00:41:56Guest:No.

00:41:57Guest:That's why I have a sense of humor.

00:41:58Guest:Fuck George E.B.

00:41:59Guest:Fuck him.

00:42:01Guest:Fuck him.

00:42:05Guest:No, you can't keep grudges.

00:42:07Guest:Fuck it!

00:42:09Guest:Isn't that weird?

00:42:09Guest:You can keep grudges.

00:42:10Guest:Even when people say they don't keep them, like, I'm over that.

00:42:12Guest:You just gotta poke a little bit and fuck that guy.

00:42:14Guest:Ah, fuck that guy.

00:42:15Guest:Am I right?

00:42:16Guest:Well, it's not good to carry.

00:42:17Guest:It gets heavy.

00:42:18Guest:No, but you don't have to think about it every day, but if you need a little choke... Don't argue.

00:42:22Guest:When I tell you things... No, do you keep grudges?

00:42:24Guest:No, I don't keep them, but I sort of have them if I need them.

00:42:30Guest:And you work on them, and they're part of your art, right?

00:42:32Guest:And this is why you're funny.

00:42:33Guest:Why are you funny?

00:42:34Guest:Because of these things.

00:42:35Guest:I don't know.

00:42:36Guest:It's arguable.

00:42:37Guest:But I, but... How was Gary?

00:42:40Guest:Was Gary a good interviewer?

00:42:42Marc:Gary's very interesting.

00:42:43Marc:I didn't know Gary, like, when you worked with him, but Gary now is a very spiritual man.

00:42:48Marc:No, he was then, too.

00:42:49Guest:Yeah.

00:42:50Marc:He's very open.

00:42:51Marc:And similar to you, at the beginning of my conversation with Gary, I didn't know what the fuck was going to happen.

00:42:58Marc:Okay.

00:43:02Guest:It took me a few minutes to sort of figure out how this was going to go.

00:43:06Guest:And then once I got past the discomfort, it turned out to be very nice.

00:43:10Guest:He felt comfortable and he opened up and that was great.

00:43:13Guest:Is that the way he is?

00:43:15Guest:Yeah.

00:43:15Guest:He sent me a thing.

00:43:16Guest:He won't mind this.

00:43:18Guest:It's out of the blue.

00:43:19Guest:He sent me a Christmas ornament and it said, Hey Noel.

00:43:25Guest:And there were two signs that he got.

00:43:29Guest:Old signs.

00:43:31Guest:One was, hey, and one was Noel.

00:43:35Guest:And his secretary dropped it off and said, Gary, wants you, I was just, great.

00:43:41Guest:And then later he called that night and we talked and he goes, I saw this thing.

00:43:45Guest:I saw, you know, I saw this thing.

00:43:48Guest:And then I saw Noah.

00:43:50Guest:I said, but Gary, that's just like the show, you know, because that's what Hank says.

00:43:55Guest:How did you come up with hey now?

00:43:57Guest:He goes, well, I used to say hey, and now I say now, and I just put them together.

00:44:02Guest:And we had a great, a great hour-long free-form conversation, both just rethinking and reliving the days, because it was so exciting.

00:44:12Guest:It was such an exciting time.

00:44:14Guest:There's no show like that ever.

00:44:17Guest:It's probably the best show ever.

00:44:20Guest:He would be on the set.

00:44:24Guest:He would change things.

00:44:25Guest:You said cunt earlier today.

00:44:28Guest:In one rehearsal, I called his girlfriend.

00:44:33Guest:A cunt?

00:44:33Guest:A cunt.

00:44:34Guest:The line was bitch, and in rehearsal I said, she's a cunt.

00:44:37Guest:And Gary said...

00:44:38Guest:That's it.

00:44:39Guest:And it went in the script.

00:44:40Guest:And he said, go with cunt.

00:44:42Guest:Go with it.

00:44:43Guest:And it was that fearless.

00:44:45Guest:Because that's a word still.

00:44:47Guest:I know it's a word, but it's so fun to say.

00:44:49Marc:And it bothers me that it's so loaded.

00:44:53Marc:Because the British say it very freely.

00:44:55Guest:Oh, that's right.

00:44:56Marc:Yeah.

00:44:56Marc:And I've often fought to free the cunt in America.

00:45:02Yeah.

00:45:04Guest:It's a hard campaign.

00:45:05Guest:Women don't enjoy that word at all.

00:45:09Guest:It's one of those words.

00:45:10Guest:It's like if your mouth could throw a rock.

00:45:17Marc:Do you and Gary have that kind of relationship?

00:45:20Guest:See, now I want to believe that you and Gary are like Hank.

00:45:24Guest:No.

00:45:25Guest:I think he plays basketball in his house.

00:45:30Guest:No, we didn't socialize, Gary and I. Really?

00:45:35Guest:So it was just sort of like on the set?

00:45:37Guest:On the set.

00:45:37Guest:See you later?

00:45:38Guest:I trusted those actors with my life.

00:45:40Guest:I mean, Rip Torn is a walking acting lesson.

00:45:43Guest:He's great.

00:45:43Guest:It's amazing.

00:45:45Guest:Like, what do you take from him?

00:45:46Guest:Like, in terms of, like, when you say that, he's a walking acting lesson.

00:45:48Guest:What is it?

00:45:49Guest:Completeness, thoroughness, just fearlessness, great personality.

00:45:55Guest:I loved him.

00:45:56Guest:I can't imagine what it would be like to hang out with him.

00:45:57Guest:I'd like to hang out with him.

00:45:59Marc:Like, I'd like to be in the LBJ suite drinking.

00:46:03Guest:with Ripton.

00:46:04Guest:I don't drink anymore, so it's not going to happen.

00:46:07Guest:How long have you been sober?

00:46:08Guest:12 years.

00:46:09Guest:Really?

00:46:09Guest:9 years.

00:46:10Guest:Really?

00:46:10Guest:Congratulations.

00:46:11Guest:Want to get a drink?

00:46:12Guest:Sure.

00:46:15Guest:Let's do it.

00:46:15Guest:Fuck it.

00:46:17Guest:Don't know what this is.

00:46:18Guest:LBJ sweet.

00:46:20Guest:Wouldn't that be funny?

00:46:21Guest:Did you drink a lot?

00:46:22Guest:Oh no, just a little.

00:46:26Guest:Just a glass.

00:46:28Guest:Nine years.

00:46:29Guest:Like, it's weird now, isn't it?

00:46:30Guest:That you get all your feelings back and all that shit?

00:46:32Guest:Like, what kind of drunk were you?

00:46:35Guest:I always went to the airport.

00:46:38Guest:a lot of people listening to this right yeah i feel like i'm just talking to a microphone you know oh i went to um i don't know um gregarious you went to the airport what does that mean i always wanted to go to japan or let's go to japan my list came back when he drank your list came back

00:47:04Guest:That's what I drank for, to get the list back, to get my unit.

00:47:09Guest:Did you, like, you would randomly take trips and wake up different places?

00:47:12Guest:No, no, I would never get that.

00:47:14Guest:Oh, you would just get to the airport?

00:47:19Guest:Yeah.

00:47:20Guest:What was the bottom like?

00:47:21Guest:I mean, what made you decide?

00:47:24Guest:Just enough, you know, enough.

00:47:27Guest:It wasn't one of those things where you woke up and there was a corpse there.

00:47:29Guest:No.

00:47:30Guest:No.

00:47:33Guest:No drama in it.

00:47:34Guest:No.

00:47:34Guest:And I never, no, I never, no, no.

00:47:37Guest:Well, let's talk about the Arrested Development guy now.

00:47:41Guest:George.

00:47:42Guest:What's that?

00:47:43Guest:What's what I put in my mouth?

00:47:44Guest:What do you put in your mouth?

00:47:45Guest:A nicotine lozenge.

00:47:45Guest:I can't get rid of everything.

00:47:46Guest:I gotta fucking live here.

00:47:47Guest:Are you quitting smoking?

00:47:49Guest:Do you live here?

00:47:50Guest:No, no, no.

00:47:51Guest:In this room?

00:47:52Guest:Is this it?

00:47:53Guest:Yeah, this is my couch.

00:47:54Guest:You're sitting on my chair.

00:47:55Guest:It insulted me at the beginning.

00:47:57Guest:That's why this hasn't gone well.

00:47:58Guest:So you're quitting smoking as well?

00:48:01Guest:No, I haven't smoked in 10 years.

00:48:02Guest:You're addicted to nicotine?

00:48:03Guest:Yes.

00:48:04Guest:Yes.

00:48:05Guest:Are you addicted to nicotine?

00:48:06Guest:Yes, Jeffrey.

00:48:10Guest:Is this Meisner?

00:48:12Guest:I love it.

00:48:18Guest:Thank you.

00:48:18Guest:Why do you love it?

00:48:20Guest:So anyway, when I... That's what I mean.

00:48:26Guest:That's what I don't get people.

00:48:27Guest:What do you mean?

00:48:28Guest:Yeah, I've grown.

00:48:29Guest:I've done a lot.

00:48:29Guest:Yeah, anyway.

00:48:30Guest:No, I pretty much kicked all my... Anyway.

00:48:35Guest:That kills me.

00:48:37Guest:What, you don't have anything that you do?

00:48:39Nothing.

00:48:39Guest:Get the fuck out of here.

00:48:40Guest:There's no way.

00:48:41Guest:I don't even touch myself anymore.

00:48:45Guest:No interest?

00:48:51Marc:Well, I mean, you've got to fill the void somehow.

00:48:53Marc:Are you a spiritual guy?

00:48:54Marc:Are you Jewy now, or what?

00:48:56Marc:Jewy?

00:48:56Guest:Yes, are you Jewy?

00:48:58Guest:Jewy.

00:49:00Guest:I'm spiritual.

00:49:02Guest:Jewy?

00:49:04Guest:I'm spiritual.

00:49:05Guest:I believe in connectedness and all of that.

00:49:07Guest:So vague...

00:49:09Guest:Oh, okay.

00:49:11Guest:Me?

00:49:13Guest:Well, I mean, Jew is very defined.

00:49:14Guest:Jew is like, there's that, and you wear this, and here we go.

00:49:17Guest:I had trouble with Judaism.

00:49:20Guest:First of all, my cantor.

00:49:26Guest:That's the apnea guy.

00:49:29Guest:Thank God he's breathing.

00:49:32Guest:Yeah.

00:49:32Guest:My cantor, who taught me my bar mitzvah, used to eat Kaddish cheese sandwiches.

00:49:37Guest:And I had trouble with the baruch.

00:49:39Guest:Yeah.

00:49:40Guest:Because I would say, And he would say, No, baruch.

00:49:44Guest:And these curds...

00:49:46Guest:would come flying and hurtling over the room and onto my head.

00:49:51Guest:I looked like one of those ceilings in the San Fernando Valley.

00:49:55Guest:Popcorn ceilings?

00:49:56Guest:And smelled like kernel milk.

00:49:58Guest:So why would I go on being a Jew?

00:50:01Marc:Why do fucking... Why do Jews have these weird stories about old Jews with food and fucking... Because!

00:50:07Marc:It's fucking ridiculous.

00:50:08Marc:And we all have them.

00:50:10Marc:These old Jews ruin it for us with their mess.

00:50:12Guest:Well...

00:50:14Guest:No, but my uncles used to say, well, you can eat that.

00:50:17Guest:Yeah.

00:50:18Guest:Come on, you can make a meal out of that.

00:50:21Guest:Come here.

00:50:21Guest:Don't throw it away.

00:50:22Guest:Where's the colesaw that's who I felt?

00:50:24Guest:Don't make the sandwiches with colesaw and left over me.

00:50:27Guest:Chopped liver and turkey's wonderful.

00:50:29Guest:It is.

00:50:30Guest:It is.

00:50:31Guest:But no one cares about that.

00:50:32Guest:But I am spiritual, and I do believe in that.

00:50:34Guest:And I used to chant for a little bit.

00:50:35Guest:What do you mean?

00:50:36Guest:You did the nummy ho?

00:50:37Guest:Yeah, I used to do that.

00:50:38Guest:In the 70s?

00:50:41Guest:I'm not even... 60.

00:50:42Guest:No, in the 70s, when that thing was popular and everything.

00:50:45Guest:No, later.

00:50:45Guest:Really?

00:50:46Guest:When Tina Turner did it?

00:50:48Guest:I didn't interview Tina Turner.

00:50:49Marc:Well, how the hell did you get involved?

00:50:50Marc:Did someone come up to you with a card and say, this is the thing?

00:50:52Marc:I mean, how do you get involved?

00:50:54Marc:Yeah, a friend, and I liked it.

00:50:56Marc:You went over to someone's house, and they said, look, and you go, what the hell is that?

00:50:58Marc:It's my altar.

00:50:59Marc:And you sat down, and you did the... I like all that stuff.

00:51:02Marc:Okay.

00:51:02Guest:I like stuff.

00:51:03Marc:But you weren't part of the cult of it?

00:51:06Guest:No.

00:51:06Guest:What about Scientology?

00:51:07Guest:Is that bullshit?

00:51:08No.

00:51:10Guest:I did a little bit.

00:51:13Guest:And how did that work?

00:51:16Guest:I left.

00:51:17Guest:But I had a good time.

00:51:19Marc:Did you get some tools?

00:51:21Marc:Yeah.

00:51:22Marc:Because I know that... I've always been a seeker.

00:51:24Guest:I don't put down any religions unless they hurt people.

00:51:27Guest:Right.

00:51:28Guest:Which is most of them.

00:51:29Guest:But I as a Jew, and knowing our history... You know what I found out?

00:51:35Guest:This is... Get this.

00:51:37Guest:I don't want to talk about this.

00:51:38Guest:No, do it.

00:51:39Guest:No.

00:51:39Guest:This is where it gets good.

00:51:40Guest:This is where you were supposed to go... A guy came backstage on Broadway and said, I have your family tree.

00:51:48Guest:And then he, big tree, no.

00:51:51Guest:It's a Christmas tree.

00:51:53Guest:No, it was a family tree.

00:51:55Guest:And I found, after not even looking at this thing for months, the tamperas were in Auschwitz.

00:52:03Guest:Oh.

00:52:04Yeah.

00:52:05Guest:How many generations back?

00:52:07Guest:I only thought four.

00:52:08Guest:Which timbres?

00:52:09Guest:I don't know.

00:52:10Guest:It was just like... One of those timbres.

00:52:13Guest:I went to Auschwitz.

00:52:14Guest:You did?

00:52:15Guest:It's not fun at all.

00:52:16Guest:Very boring.

00:52:17Guest:What Hannah Arendt says about Auschwitz?

00:52:20Guest:Oh yeah, the banality of evil.

00:52:22Guest:Banality of evil is true.

00:52:24Guest:Except, get this... It probably wasn't boring when it was operating.

00:52:33LAUGHTER LAUGHTER

00:52:34Guest:We came out one of the barracks.

00:52:38Guest:And... Was that inappropriate?

00:52:41Guest:I thought it was... Oh, no, it was totally appropriate.

00:52:43Guest:Really good.

00:52:45Guest:And tasteful.

00:52:48Guest:And there was this Italian family, and they were all arms around each other, smiling in front of the barracks.

00:52:53Guest:I went, they're not getting, they're not getting the message here.

00:52:57Guest:This is not.

00:52:58Guest:Did you feel the weight of it, though?

00:53:00Guest:I did.

00:53:00Guest:I was in therapy at the time, and I went back, and my therapist said, how was Auschwitz?

00:53:04Guest:And I burst into tears.

00:53:05Guest:You did?

00:53:06Guest:Oh, sobbing, yeah.

00:53:07Guest:I can't imagine.

00:53:08Guest:I've never been there.

00:53:08Guest:I can't imagine how horrible it must feel.

00:53:10Guest:It's horrible.

00:53:11Guest:And it's boring.

00:53:12Guest:Why do you say boring?

00:53:13Guest:It's just a table.

00:53:17Guest:Evil is boring.

00:53:18Guest:That's why evil can happen.

00:53:21Guest:Oh, has this room changed?

00:53:23Guest:Whoa.

00:53:24Guest:I apologize, you guys.

00:53:26Marc:But wasn't the banality of evil, like what she was talking about, was the bureaucracy of it?

00:53:30Guest:No.

00:53:31Guest:It's just an everyday, just kick in the can, just a little bit.

00:53:35Guest:And that's what we do, right?

00:53:37Guest:Sure.

00:53:38Guest:Yeah.

00:53:38Guest:It's hilarious.

00:53:39Guest:I, um...

00:53:44Guest:Okay.

00:53:45Guest:No, I know.

00:53:46Guest:But I like the whole seeker thing.

00:53:48Guest:When are we going to go on, by the way?

00:53:49Guest:We're going, we're almost, what?

00:53:51Guest:Oh, are we on now?

00:53:53Guest:Yeah.

00:53:53Guest:No, no, no.

00:53:54Guest:You mean the podcast?

00:53:55Guest:Yeah.

00:53:55Guest:We're recording it for later and people can play it.

00:53:58Guest:So like you have the option after we're done to say like, I don't want to fucking put any of that out there.

00:54:02Marc:You're ridiculous.

00:54:03Marc:I do?

00:54:03Marc:Sure.

00:54:04Marc:You can call me up and say, fuck this.

00:54:07Guest:You know what I mean?

00:54:07Guest:Fuck this.

00:54:07Guest:Yeah.

00:54:08Guest:Fuck this.

00:54:09Guest:Have you ever gone off on anybody?

00:54:11Guest:Have you ever just yelled professionally?

00:54:14Guest:Yeah, earlier.

00:54:15Guest:What did you do?

00:54:16Guest:I used to yell all the time on stage.

00:54:19Guest:Before that?

00:54:20Guest:No, no.

00:54:21Guest:Actually, when I smoked cigarettes, it was not unlike me to say cunt, to yell.

00:54:28Guest:Like, if an audience didn't like me, I would not take it like a man.

00:54:31Guest:I would make them pay for what my parents did.

00:54:34LAUGHTER

00:54:37Guest:If an audience doesn't parent me properly, there's going to be trouble.

00:54:41Guest:That's the old me.

00:54:42Guest:But now I want to talk about this seeker thing, because my brother's a seeker.

00:54:46Guest:I know where you're going.

00:54:48Guest:Go ahead.

00:54:48Guest:A seeker.

00:54:48Guest:Oh, okay.

00:54:49Guest:Yeah.

00:54:49Guest:A guy looking for something, that connection.

00:54:52Guest:And you seem to have run through quite a few different ones.

00:54:55Guest:And you're kind of making your own.

00:54:56Guest:There is no reason for me having the life I have other than connection.

00:55:00Guest:I mean, look, I'm going to go home.

00:55:02Guest:and there's these four kids and this wonderful wife.

00:55:06Guest:I mean, why are these kids in my life?

00:55:07Guest:I mean, it's unbelievable.

00:55:09Guest:Because you made them.

00:55:12Guest:I understand, but you understand.

00:55:14Guest:And there's circles, and I do believe in a connectedness.

00:55:16Guest:You know what happened the other... No, I can't talk about that.

00:55:18Marc:Yes, you can.

00:55:19Guest:It was the most weird thing.

00:55:20Guest:I live near the Santa Monica, and the mountains there, and I was driving down the street, and a deer came...

00:55:31Guest:running down the middle of the Sunset Boulevard, and all the drivers, nobody honked, nobody reacted, nobody screamed, everybody just stopped their cars.

00:55:43Guest:And it was the most incredible moment.

00:55:47Guest:And I went, we are all just fucking visitors here.

00:55:51Guest:And the deer just went on the way.

00:55:55Guest:Isn't that unbelievable?

00:55:56Guest:What are you laughing at?

00:55:57Guest:That's how I experience joy.

00:56:01Oh yeah.

00:56:01Guest:I'm sorry.

00:56:06Guest:I have trouble reading signals.

00:56:08Guest:That's joy.

00:56:10Marc:Laughter sometimes means joy.

00:56:11Marc:Where the fuck are you from?

00:56:15Guest:Why are you laughing?

00:56:17Guest:I don't laugh.

00:56:20Guest:So I'm not warm?

00:56:21Guest:You thought I was going to be warmer?

00:56:23Guest:No, you're difficult, but you're lovely.

00:56:25Marc:Why was I difficult?

00:56:27Marc:No, I think you're loosening up now, and I'm glad we have another hour.

00:56:30Guest:Was I tight at the beginning?

00:56:32Guest:I don't know, Jeffrey.

00:56:34Marc:I just...

00:56:37Marc:I think at the beginning we were feeling each other out, and then it was funny, and then I felt sad, and then we came out of it.

00:56:47Guest:I feel like I've been here for 30 years.

00:56:50Guest:I am exhausted.

00:56:52Marc:Really?

00:56:52Marc:Because I'm draining.

00:56:53Marc:Is that what you're saying?

00:56:55Marc:No!

00:56:56Marc:What did you get out of Scientology?

00:56:59Marc:I'm not being provocative here, because I'm a big fan of William Burroughs, and he said that he actually learned stuff.

00:57:05Marc:But we all associate Scientology with this ridiculous cult and this silly religion, but there are people that believe there are tools that are actually useful.

00:57:13Guest:There's tools to everything.

00:57:13Guest:Sure.

00:57:14Guest:I was a seeker.

00:57:15Guest:I was young.

00:57:16Guest:I met good people, and I don't like organizations.

00:57:20Guest:Yeah.

00:57:20Guest:So adios.

00:57:21Guest:Okay, that makes sense.

00:57:22Guest:I don't even like being here.

00:57:25Guest:Yeah.

00:57:26Guest:I feel this is a cult.

00:57:28Guest:Well, let's talk very cultish in here.

00:57:31Guest:They're very sensitive.

00:57:32Guest:No, but I mean, I as a Jew can't talk about other people.

00:57:35Guest:You know, I don't like, you know, I don't like mailing people, mailing me and... Emailing?

00:57:41Guest:Yeah, I don't like it.

00:57:42Guest:Yeah, you just don't want to be part of it.

00:57:45Guest:Fuck it, right?

00:57:46Guest:Fuck it, yeah.

00:57:47Guest:I agree.

00:57:47Guest:I have a Kindle.

00:57:48Guest:You do?

00:57:49Guest:So you're part of the Kindle cult.

00:57:53Guest:I didn't think that's what you were going to pull in your back pocket.

00:57:56Guest:Which one?

00:57:56Marc:Scientology?

00:57:58Marc:I'm not a guy that's looking to provoke problems.

00:58:02Guest:I think that it's interesting to me.

00:58:05Guest:that you were involved in it, but that's not... People ask me, because you can't change that thing.

00:58:13Guest:The Scientology thing?

00:58:14Guest:No, no, the IMDb or whatever.

00:58:16Guest:No, Wikipedia?

00:58:18Guest:IMDb and Wikipedia.

00:58:19Marc:You can't change it.

00:58:20Marc:Well, you can.

00:58:21Marc:You should be able to.

00:58:22Marc:Did you tell them who you were?

00:58:25Marc:Well, who's they?

00:58:26Marc:You know, the wiki guy.

00:58:27Marc:I don't know.

00:58:27Marc:You can write in and ask.

00:58:30Marc:IMDb is very weird.

00:58:32Marc:Someone put that out on IMDb that I was on the Patty Duke show.

00:58:35Marc:You were, weren't you?

00:58:35Marc:No, I wasn't even born.

00:58:37Marc:I was two years old, and people were like, who were you on the Patty Duke show?

00:58:40Guest:You were great on the Patty Duke show.

00:58:43Guest:I used to get, when I was playing Hank Kingsley, people used to go and say, you know, Dr. Phil, I want to thank you.

00:58:51Guest:You have changed my life.

00:58:53Guest:I read, I am not Dr. Phil.

00:58:54Guest:And they went, Dr. Phil.

00:58:56Guest:So finally I just said, fuck it.

00:58:59Guest:Glad to be of help.

00:59:02Guest:Glad that worked out.

00:59:07Marc:When do you start shooting the movie?

00:59:09Marc:I don't know.

00:59:10Marc:You don't know?

00:59:10Marc:And how about the episodes?

00:59:12Marc:When are they going to start to happen?

00:59:13Marc:Oh, I don't know.

00:59:14Marc:You have no idea.

00:59:16Marc:I don't know a lot.

00:59:17Guest:Do you like... Oh, what's that guy's name who gave me the candy?

00:59:22Guest:What?

00:59:23Guest:I was in town today and God gave me free candy with Andrew Burnett.

00:59:27Guest:Free candy.

00:59:28Guest:What kind?

00:59:30Guest:Chocolate potato chips.

00:59:31Guest:Free candy.

00:59:35Guest:But you got juice.

00:59:38Guest:Good for you.

00:59:40Guest:Could you be a little more disinterested in what I just said?

00:59:44Guest:You just told me you got free candy.

00:59:46Guest:Yeah.

00:59:47Guest:And I'm supposed to jump up and down?

00:59:50Guest:What?

00:59:50Guest:Once I was in New York.

00:59:51Guest:This is how you know you made it.

00:59:53Guest:Get this.

00:59:53Guest:I'm at the 72nd Street Station.

00:59:56Guest:And I go down, and I just had a very odd encounter with somebody at one of the diners up there.

01:00:03Guest:Kind of was... And I get down to the 72nd Street Station, and I go up to the lady...

01:00:09Guest:And she pointed to the door and she buzzed me the fuck in.

01:00:21Guest:I broke down in tears.

01:00:26Guest:If I can make it here, I'll make it anywhere.

01:00:31Guest:That's my Liza moment.

01:00:33Guest:Do you do stage still?

01:00:37Guest:Are you doing any stage work?

01:00:38Guest:No.

01:00:38Guest:But you seem like you fucking love it.

01:00:40Guest:I do.

01:00:40Guest:I will do it.

01:00:44Guest:Did you ever play Fiddler?

01:00:50Guest:Everyone who's Jewish does not play Jewish.

01:00:53Guest:But you'd make it great, have you?

01:00:54Guest:I would not make it great.

01:01:05Marc:Come on.

01:01:08Marc:Yeah, if you did it like that, it would be mind-blowing.

01:01:11Marc:Yeah.

01:01:12Marc:Like you didn't even know the words, you just sort of half-mocked it.

01:01:16Guest:You just didn't even barely do the dance.

01:01:19Yeah.

01:01:19Guest:Hey!

01:01:22Another!

01:01:22Shalom!

01:01:23Guest:Right?

01:01:24Guest:You do that every once in a while, right?

01:01:29Guest:Hey!

01:01:30Guest:Hey, Tevye!

01:01:32Guest:That's my Tevye!

01:01:35Guest:Oh, I think we've had a good time.

01:01:37Guest:I used to.

01:01:38Guest:Yeah.

01:01:40Guest:You are wonderful, and you are warm, and you're a real mention.

01:01:43Guest:You're great.

01:01:45Guest:I really enjoyed this.

01:01:46Guest:Oh, thanks a lot.

01:01:46Guest:I appreciate you doing it.

01:01:48Guest:It was a good time.

01:01:48Guest:You guys are great.

01:01:50Guest:Jeffrey Tambor, ladies and gentlemen.

01:01:58Guest:Thank you.

01:01:59Guest:I guess, like, there's part of me that feels like we can't not, we, what, did you have a question for me?

01:02:03Guest:You want to go to a meeting?

01:02:04Guest:Yeah, sure.

01:02:05Guest:Okay.

01:02:07Guest:Really?

01:02:08Guest:No.

01:02:08Guest:Okay.

01:02:11Guest:Hold up.

01:02:15Marc:I don't know what I'm going to do, man.

01:02:17Marc:I don't feel like ending it.

01:02:20Marc:For the people listening, Jeffrey's making fun of me eating my nicotine lozenge.

01:02:25Guest:He does it with a weird pinched face that happens in the middle of conversation.

01:02:30Guest:Now he's sticking a lozenge in his nose and pulling it out of his ear.

01:02:36Guest:It's magic.

01:02:38Guest:Thank you very much, folks.

01:02:40Guest:Live WPF from South by Southwest, Jeffrey Tambor.

01:02:53Guest:Pleasure.

01:02:54Guest:Thank you very much.

01:02:55Guest:I got some buttons and some posters.

01:02:57Guest:I'll bring them right out here if you want them.

01:03:23Guest:A bit younger Cool man