Episode 165 - Ed Helms
Guest:Lock the gates!
Guest:Are we doing this?
Guest:Really?
Guest:Wait for it.
Guest:Are we doing this?
Guest:Wait for it.
Guest:Pow!
Guest:What the fuck?
Guest:And it's also, eh, what the fuck?
Guest:What's wrong with me?
Guest:It's time for WTF!
Guest:What the fuck?
Guest:With Marc Maron.
Marc:Okay, let's do this.
Marc:How are you, what the fuckers?
Marc:What the fuck, buddies?
Marc:What the fucking ears?
Marc:What the fucking... Oh, man.
Marc:Did I just run out in my brain?
Marc:It's probably better off.
Marc:I am Marc Maron.
Marc:This is WTF.
Marc:Thanks for listening.
Marc:Thank you for all the great feedback on the recent shows.
Marc:I appreciate it.
Marc:Wow.
Marc:When you're listening to this, I'm going to be in Australia.
Marc:How does that grab you?
Marc:So it's probably the day before yesterday when you're listening to this where I am because I don't understand the time difference, and that's a stupid old joke.
Marc:Let's get into something important.
Marc:Today on the show, from the hangover, Ed Helms, he's going to jam.
Marc:I'm going to turn my phone off.
Marc:We're going to try that.
Marc:That wasn't my phone.
Marc:That was the computer noise, right?
Marc:All right.
Marc:You know, I could systemize this.
Marc:I could say, all right, before I turn the mic on, bang, phone goes off.
Marc:Boom.
Marc:Volume on computer goes down.
Marc:Pow.
Marc:I just shit my pants.
Marc:JustCoffee.coop.
Marc:Hold on.
Marc:We're doing it backwards this time.
Marc:Oh, I don't know what happens after that if I do the pow first.
Marc:Anyways, just coffee dot co-op, which I visited in Madison.
Marc:I think I told you about that.
Marc:Let's go.
Marc:You know what?
Marc:I got to be honest with you.
Marc:I am not a hypochondriac.
Marc:I was.
Marc:I think we've talked about that here on the show.
Marc:But I had a thing happen in a hotel room that I got to share with you because I kind of went through the ringer.
Marc:Not a big ringer.
Marc:It's a luxury problem to be as in my head and festering as I am.
Marc:But I was just sitting there in my hotel room sucking on one of these Italian licorice candies that I like that you can only get in Italy, it seems.
Marc:Amarello, Amarilli, Amarelli.
Marc:I don't know, but they're very strong.
Marc:And I'm just sitting there sucking on a licorice candy, minding my own business, doing a little work, poking around online, who knows what.
Marc:And I start running my tongue in my mouth and I feel a little pain over here by my side of my mouth.
Marc:You know, there's a little like a cankery kind of pain.
Marc:And I get those.
Marc:So I'm like, yeah, I must be a little canker sore.
Marc:I think I burned my mouth on some noodles the other night and I'll just keep festering with it and just poking at it.
Marc:I'm like, ah, Christ, what the hell is that?
Marc:It feels a little bigger than usual, you know, and, you know, all right.
Marc:So then I get to that point where I'm like, I better go take a look at this.
Marc:So I go into the bathroom and I start prodding around in my mouth.
Marc:Now, if you get into this OCD thing where you start feeling for bumps and lumps and whatever, it depends what you're into, which part of your body you want to poke around in, in order to determine whether or not you can self-diagnose.
Marc:So I'm looking in my mouth.
Marc:I pull my lip down.
Marc:And sure enough, there are all these nasty looking brown spots in my mouth right down beneath my lip on the left side.
Marc:Not a lot of them.
Marc:They weren't huge, but they look bad.
Marc:You know, anything in the mouth that's not supposed to be there looks bad.
Marc:And usually it's like, oh, that's I bit my my lip there that.
Marc:Oh, that's a mark from what you can track it down.
Marc:But I've never seen this color before.
Marc:So immediately I'm like, fuck, I have mouth cancer.
Marc:I have mouth cancer.
Marc:There's no doubt about it.
Marc:And like within seconds, I went through the Kubler-Ross, you know, five stages of grief.
Marc:Like I look at my mouth and I'm like, oh, denial.
Marc:That can't be mouth cancer.
Marc:No, I mean, it could be, but it's not.
Marc:It's not.
Marc:Anger.
Marc:Fuck.
Marc:Fuck.
Marc:I have mouth cancer.
Marc:Bargaining.
Marc:Oh, God, please.
Marc:Just make this not be mouth cancer.
Marc:Depression.
Marc:Fuck.
Marc:Fuck.
Marc:I guess it's over.
Marc:Acceptance.
Marc:Well, you know, people get cancer.
Marc:I guess is what I'm going to die of.
Marc:Fucking mouth cancer.
Marc:There goes my career.
Marc:There goes everything.
Marc:Now, there's not a fifth thing on there.
Marc:And that should be here's a little advice.
Marc:Don't Google cancer.
Marc:Don't Google cancer.
Marc:Even if no matter what, don't Google cancer, man.
Marc:I go right to Google.
Marc:I look up mouth cancer and I am just assaulted by images of all kinds.
Marc:I mean, just nasty lumps, cysts, weird teeth falling out, tongues missing, brown festering, black and blue blood pus, you know, disfigured faces.
Marc:But you know what?
Marc:In all my investigation, I found nothing that looked like what was in my mouth.
Marc:so now i'm a little relieved and i gotta think it through what is going on in my mouth dude and i was completely willing to accept my fate you know things happen i'm getting older i got a little pain in my shoulder right now running down my arm i don't know am i gonna clinch my chest who the fuck knows it's a hobby of mine i don't do it all the time but sometimes i think about it so anyways i start thinking i'm like wait a minute dude wait mark hey
Marc:The licorice, you've been sucking on those licorices.
Marc:And basically what had happened is I realized that from eating the licorices, because I looked at my tongue and it was a little brown because of the licorice.
Marc:And I'm like, the licorice dyed a kanker sore in my mouth brown.
Marc:Man, was I excited to have that.
Marc:I was relieved.
Marc:I was relieved.
Marc:And in that moment, I had beat cancer.
Marc:I had beat cancer.
Marc:And this all took place in the course of like maybe 12 minutes.
Marc:I was like a fucking Columbo of the mouth.
Marc:I just broke that shit down, little investigation, putting some stuff together.
Marc:Next day, didn't see the spots, just a normal kind of burn in the mouth from the noodle or a canker sore or whatever.
Marc:But man, it feels good to have...
Marc:When you come through something like that and you beat cancer in 12 minutes, it changes a guy.
Marc:Hey, yeah.
Guest:Testing, testing.
Marc:You just turned me up way loud.
Guest:Oh, I did?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Let me see what it does on that third mic.
Marc:We might not even need it.
Marc:I mean, you know, we're not doing a musical recording.
Guest:Yeah, no, we are.
Guest:That's why I came.
Marc:Oh, yeah.
Marc:I don't even know that we need that other mic.
Marc:I might need it more for me.
Marc:Am I out of tune?
Marc:Give me, what do you got?
Marc:Ed Helms is in the garage, by the way.
Marc:A B?
Guest:A G chord.
Guest:Play a G chord.
Marc:I might be out.
Marc:I'm out.
Marc:You're pretty out.
Guest:Wow.
Guest:You're flat.
Guest:Your guitar is really flat.
Guest:How'd it get that flat?
Marc:How long have you been playing?
Marc:Wow.
Guest:A long time, since I was a teenager.
Marc:This is that thing where I'm in tune now for a long time.
Marc:That's a beautiful guitar, by the way.
Marc:You can tell me about your... So you were a teenager.
Marc:Where'd you grow up at as I tune?
Guest:Wait, first you have to tell me what the story on that guitar is.
Guest:Where did you buy it?
Marc:This is a weird guitar.
Marc:I've learned some things about it.
Marc:This is a 1965.
Marc:I think it's called an FJN.
Marc:It's a Gibson.
Marc:I learned something new about it.
Marc:It's got this weird little classical neck on it.
Guest:Right, it's got a fat, wide neck.
Marc:It's like a flamenco guitar, but it's made for steel strings.
Marc:I was told that it was made for classical players transitioning to steel strings, but then I talked to a dude who said it was really a nylon string guitar.
Marc:These are flamenco pick cards.
Guest:The reason there's two... Yeah, you've got the double square, but it's... But it's set up for steel.
Guest:Yeah, the tuning pegs are not classical style at all.
Guest:But you're right.
Guest:Those are the... What do you call them on flamenco guitars?
Marc:Thumpers or flappers or poppers or some shit.
Guest:Thump guards or something.
Marc:Something like that?
Marc:So what do you play?
Marc:Bluegrass?
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:I mean, like, did you... Uh-oh.
Guest:That's pretty close.
Marc:Wait.
Marc:Oh, fuck, dude.
Marc:How'd that... Hold on.
Marc:Let me see.
Marc:Oh, it's so close.
Oh.
Bye.
Marc:Oops, screwed up.
Marc:Nice.
Guest:That was a little something.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:That's beautiful, dude.
Guest:Oh, yeah, thanks.
Marc:So you're growing up now.
Marc:I don't assume that you have Appalachian roots.
Guest:I don't.
Guest:Well, my mom is from Nashville and my dad's from Montgomery.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So southern roots, but I don't know.
Guest:You grew up with the music?
Yeah.
Guest:Not really.
Guest:I mean, I grew up in Atlanta, Georgia.
Marc:It's not like... So you grew up like everybody else, listening to Van Halen?
Marc:Yes.
Marc:And Zeppelin.
Marc:Do you know there's Zeppelin on the... There's Banjo on that Zeppelin song I was just talking about.
Guest:Oh, on the tiles.
Guest:Oh.
Guest:Gallows Paul.
Guest:Yeah, exactly.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Yeah, it has that... It, like, fades in.
Marc:I wonder what that...
Marc:I don't know what they would be doing.
Guest:You play in G usually.
Marc:I don't know that.
Marc:I don't really know what it is.
Marc:It actually screws that song up for me a little bit.
Guest:I think it's one of those.
Guest:There's that Steve Miller song where it just fades in so nicely.
Guest:Come on, it gives a little pep.
Marc:It gives a texture, I agree with you.
Marc:A little peppiness.
Marc:So when you were a kid, you didn't grow up with country music and you decided to learn how to play banjo, because that's no easy thing to learn.
Marc:I'm a very sloppy guitar player, but banjo takes a little more precision.
Guest:Yeah, it takes a lot of discipline that I don't have.
Guest:I would be like, what you might call them, mediocre.
Guest:intermediate banjo player um but i'm always improving i'm always working at it and trying to get better it's it's you blow off steam like that um i mean you just got you i mean you literally came over here from the set of the office didn't you yes literally and you and you shot how many how much how long were you over there it was a long day actually um i got there at about 7 30 yeah and what time is it now it's like nine
Marc:So, it's so funny to me that, like, you know what I did today?
Marc:I interviewed Bobcat Goldthwait here in the garage.
Marc:Oh, awesome.
Guest:I wonder why this microphone smelled weird.
Marc:Yeah, it's Bob.
Marc:And I prepared some food for a woman that I just started dating again.
Marc:It's very, it's awkward and tense in there, and it's great.
Marc:Oh, good.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:I didn't sense that at all.
Guest:No, no, no.
Marc:She's lovely.
Marc:Oh, she is lovely.
Marc:I'm crazy.
Yeah.
Marc:So you're there all day making funnies with Steve Carell?
Guest:Yeah, and Will Ferrell's on this week.
Marc:He is, so you're working with Will?
Guest:Yeah, it's bananas.
Guest:So now how much improv do you do?
Guest:A lot, but it's within a very narrow margin.
Guest:Does that make sense?
Guest:We're not flying off the handle, going on these long kind of Apatowian rants that we sort of then will cover 10 different ways to make sure we have it.
Guest:It's sort of a matter of experimenting with...
Guest:which line might work best or some little, it's like little moments.
Guest:So it's never sort of like, okay, the idea is you guys have just eaten lunch, go.
Guest:You're a truck driver and you're a lawyer and you just sat down at a cafe and it's raining, go.
Marc:I just have a, for some reason in my mind, because I don't know Will Ferrell, nor do I know Steve Carell, but I just assume that Will is just a nonstop, like can't turn it off guy.
Guest:That's not true at all.
Guest:Really?
Guest:Actually, neither one of those guys are like that.
Guest:Just you, huh?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I'm go, go, go.
Guest:I'm the one everybody's rolling their eyes at.
Guest:They're both just...
Guest:I mean, I don't want to say it because I sound sycophantic or something, but they're just like super mellow dudes.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And when we're not shooting, we're not riffing, it's just kind of hanging out.
Guest:Talking about Libya or whatever.
Marc:Really?
Marc:That was the conversation today?
Guest:That Gaddafi?
Guest:I think it popped up.
Marc:Yeah?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:So we'll do one more song, and then we're going to put the instruments down.
Marc:And we're going to talk, because I know that guys holding instruments that can play them, there's just part of them that just wants to keep playing the instrument.
Marc:Do you sing a song?
Marc:Because you're a singer, right?
Guest:Yeah, but I don't really sing and play banjo at the same time.
Guest:It's hard, right?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:That's not true.
Guest:I do... Here we go.
Here we go.
Guest:Over yonder stands little Maggie A dream that's in her hand She's drinking away her sorrow By courting another man
Guest:I threw you.
Guest:It has this weird thing where the singing part's different than the instrumental part.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:But I'll just do one more verse.
Guest:Here we go.
Guest:Pretty flowers were made.
Guest:for blooming.
Guest:Pretty stars were made to shine.
Guest:Pretty girls were made for loving.
Guest:Little Maggie was made for mine.
Guest:There we go.
Marc:Ed Helms, ladies and gentlemen.
Guest:Ed Helms.
Guest:That was sloppier than I like to put out there.
Guest:But you know what?
Guest:It's late in the day.
Guest:No warm up.
Guest:I think we blew a little steam off, though.
Marc:I think that you got it.
Marc:It's nice to start.
Marc:I don't know how the hell you're dealing with everything that you're dealing with.
Marc:I mean, you're about to become a movie star.
Marc:Do you feel that?
Marc:I don't know.
Marc:I don't know.
Marc:Isn't Cedar Rapids a big?
Marc:When does it open?
Marc:This week?
Guest:We haven't not done our job, if you're asking that question.
Guest:It rolled out February 11th in select cities, and now it just keeps expanding.
Guest:And we've got to get the word out.
Marc:See, if I were a professional interviewer, I would have been on top of that.
Marc:I would have seen it.
Marc:You would have sent me a screener.
Guest:Wait, you're not professional?
Marc:No, you know me.
Marc:I'm Mark Maron.
Marc:I'm the guy that you knew.
Marc:I mean, we're in my garage.
Marc:But you're getting a lot of great press for, you know, you carry the movie.
Marc:I mean, you're a leading guy now.
Guest:Oh, thank you.
Marc:And you're one of the few comedians that can do that.
Guest:Well, it's an exciting time, for sure.
Guest:And I'm really proud of that movie, and I hope... We're just trying to get the word out.
Guest:That's the thing.
Guest:Like, it's a...
Guest:I'm so psyched about it, and John C. Reilly's so just insanely funny in it, and we got a great, I think it's at like 85% on Rotten Tomatoes, but we just got to get butts in the seat.
Marc:Because those guys are kind of assholes.
Guest:Right?
Guest:Yeah.
Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:We only got a few splats.
Marc:Now, what do you do to get asses in seats when you have something like a small release like that?
Marc:What is required of you?
Marc:What is the studio said?
Marc:What's it's on you to do it?
Marc:Because I remember when Patton came out with the fan, you know, he came on the show and I did everything I could to help him and I will do everything I can to help you this.
Marc:We're going to post this in two months.
Marc:Is this still going to play?
Marc:You know what?
Guest:If we get if we get King's speech legs, then yes, that'll be great.
Guest:We'll be just starting to slow down in two months.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah, I don't know.
Guest:They're just kind of marching me out everywhere, everywhere I can go.
Guest:And what this was great because you reached out kind of and it was perfectly serendipitous.
Guest:So thanks for having me.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Well, I mean, I think we'll probably if I can help you.
Marc:And this turns out we've already done something I've never done, which is we had a real jam session.
Guest:Kind of.
Guest:Yeah, that that was we should have practiced.
Marc:No, I think just the raw... I mean, maybe we'll do... The raw emotion.
Marc:Yeah, it was just like we were like, we got our instruments, let's do this.
Marc:I mean, I'm sure if we had a lot of hours to do it, we could pull a record out of that.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:Now, when you... Let's go back into Ed Helms' life, because I don't know that people know you.
Marc:Good.
Marc:And you're a very spectacularly funny person.
Marc:Thank you.
Marc:And I knew you when you were just a guy that was trying to do stand-up.
Marc:Yeah, you were like...
Marc:I was already old and bitter by the time you started.
Marc:Well, no, but you were born that way, right?
Marc:Sure.
Marc:Yeah, no, I came to that naturally.
Marc:Right away, one of my first words was like, oh, fuck.
Marc:I think that's what my mom told me.
Marc:This is bullshit.
Marc:That was my second one.
Guest:Are you fucking kidding me?
Guest:I'm Mark Maron, for God's sake.
Guest:Yeah, that was exactly it.
Guest:Yeah, when I got to New York and started doing stand-up, you were very much in the... It was like Luna Lounge.
Guest:Yeah, the Luna Lounge and all those things that I was desperately trying to get noticed to do.
Guest:And you even made me give you a handjob at one point.
Marc:Yeah, I know.
Marc:Well, that was what I used to do then.
Marc:And I didn't put you on, did I?
Marc:No, you still didn't put me on stage.
Marc:You fell for that fucking trick.
Marc:You're not the only guy, though.
Marc:There's a lot of guys that have gone on the big things that fell for that handjob trick.
Marc:You were just the first guy that actually talked about it, and I appreciate it.
Marc:No, I remember I was sort of an asshole to you at some point.
Marc:I don't.
Guest:Well, like after you got the day, I was scared of you.
Guest:Right.
Guest:I was definitely a little intimidated by you because you well, you were very you.
Guest:You had like a real reputation as like a guy that I don't know.
Guest:You just were kind of killing it and in the clubs every night.
Guest:And that's sort of where I wanted to be.
Guest:And that alone intimidated me.
Guest:And then you rarely talk to me.
Guest:And I would put you up.
Guest:I hosted the new talent showcase at the now defunct Boston Comedy Club.
Guest:That's right.
Guest:For about four years.
Guest:And I gave you stage time.
Guest:That's right.
Guest:Because it made me feel cool to have you on my show.
Marc:And you were sort of a contemporary of my ex-wife's.
Marc:Mishnah.
Marc:Of course.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:I knew you guys were together.
Marc:I didn't realize you were married.
Marc:Oh, married, divorced, been a long haul.
Guest:Oh, wow.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:We got to keep up a little more, me and you.
Marc:Oh, yeah.
Guest:I keep you in the loop.
Guest:Let's turn the mics off.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:Let's just catch up here.
Marc:No, we can do that right here on the mics.
Marc:But I remember when you got The Daily Show because they did that first round of, like, searching for correspondence.
Marc:And then after you had done that a while and you were kicking ass on that, you started to tour.
Marc:And I remember talking to you about it because it was like all of a sudden now people were coming to see Ed Helms out of nowhere, really, correct?
Marc:Because before that, you were still sort of struggling.
Marc:Am I right?
Marc:Yeah, for sure.
Marc:And how did you fucking –
Marc:When you went to college, was this the plan, dude?
Guest:You know, the plan was to go to New York and try to do comedy.
Guest:That was it?
Guest:So, yeah, I guess this was the plan.
Guest:I kind of wanted to go in an indie filmmaking kind of direction at one point, and I was flirting with that.
Marc:Writing and directing and doing that?
Guest:Yeah, all that really pretentious stuff that you get really excited about.
Guest:When you're in college.
Guest:It's all romantic.
Guest:And that was something that I thought would be cool.
Guest:But I just kept...
Guest:I kept going back to this place of I just I seem to do better when I'm acting like a jackass.
Guest:Like I just seem to succeed when I'm acting like a jackass.
Guest:That just seems to be the only place where I'm appreciated.
Guest:So I I kept going back to it.
Guest:And then and I really once I got into the trenches in New York stand up, I really felt like I was.
Guest:I loved it.
Guest:It was so fun.
Guest:You were a successful jackass.
Guest:Even with all these horrible, abusive people like you trying to keep me down and kick me around.
Guest:It was so fun and stimulating and dark and weird and exciting.
Guest:Those were fun years.
Guest:But I always sort of thought I would get a...
Guest:Get like a Saturday Night Live audition or something at some point.
Guest:And then around my late 20s, around 27 or so, a bunch of my contemporaries were starting to get that, get those auditions.
Marc:Who were your friends?
Guest:You know, guys like Dimitri Martin and Slovan and Alan.
Marc:And you guys are all pals.
Marc:That was your crew.
Guest:Well, those guys were, yeah.
Marc:Yeah, they're good guys.
Marc:You pick nice people to surround yourself with.
Guest:Yeah, well, that... No darkness, no drugs.
Guest:There were some less nice people around those times, too.
Guest:But there was a lot of... What was cool is that everybody did kind of stick together because... And I'm sure, like, I always felt like you were part of the class, like, I don't know if you want to... Sure.
Guest:make the college analogy you were like a couple years ahead of yeah ahead of us and and I was probably the guy that was probably undergrad for six years and there you're like yeah he's still hanging out at the campus but but it was yeah it was sort of like you you kind of stuck with your pack
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And you and Todd Berry and Janine and all those folks, that was your pack.
Guest:Right.
Guest:We didn't have a prayer hanging out with you guys.
Marc:With me and Todd Berry.
Marc:Yeah, there was an intimidating crew.
Marc:Me and Todd going, hey, Todd's in there going, hey, buddy.
Marc:Hey, buddy.
Marc:Do you have a cat, by the way?
Marc:Yeah, why?
Marc:I'm feeling it.
Marc:Oh, you got allergies?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:They don't really spend time in here, but maybe inside.
Marc:Yeah, I don't know.
Marc:Are you going to be all right?
Marc:Yeah, I'll be fine.
Guest:I'll probably start coughing and hacking and itching more.
Guest:And that'll be the signal that we're done.
Marc:So what did you study at Oberlin?
Guest:Oberlin has this thing called the independent major where you can sort of outline your own course of study, but you have to submit an application.
Guest:It's like this whole process, approval process, because they don't allow a lot of people to do it.
Guest:Maybe like four or five people per class do it.
Guest:But I got to the...
Guest:the end of my sophomore year and I realized I wasn't gonna graduate in four years unless I figured out a way to glue together all the courses I'd already taken into some kind of coherent blob of a major.
Guest:So I kind of invented this major called Film Theory and Technology.
Guest:And and what that involved was exhausting the film department, which was what you couldn't major in.
Guest:Right.
Guest:There was just like a bunch of film classes.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So I took all of those.
Guest:Some theater mixed in.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:and a bunch of computer science classes, which I just thought I was kind of into, and I just was like, that's the technology part, because around that time, special effects movies were starting to happen.
Guest:And you had to present this?
Guest:Well, yeah, so I wrote up this whole huge application, and I went before a board, and I convinced them that this was a reasonable thing, and it was a lot...
Guest:Of it was a lot of horseshit, but I have to say, you know, the fact that I got in there and sold it.
Guest:I think that actually gave it some some validity somehow, you know, and I went off to NYU for a semester or two to the film school at NYU.
Guest:And that that I also that I think gave it a little more integrity.
Marc:Were you there with anybody that you still stay in touch with or work with?
Guest:Yeah, actually, at Oberlin or NYU?
Guest:NYU.
Guest:I went to NYU.
Guest:I was a visiting student there for one semester, and it was part of this program called Spring at Tisch in the film program.
Guest:And this one guy is still one of my best buddies.
Guest:His name is Mark Webb, and now he's directing Spider-Man.
Guest:Wow.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:And that's the way it works.
Marc:So you got yourself a little part in Spider-Man?
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:No.
Marc:No.
Marc:No.
Guest:Yeah, you're right.
Guest:I hadn't thought of it, but Mark stiffed me.
Marc:Yeah, that's the way it's supposed to work, Ed.
Marc:I'm going to have to take it up with him.
Marc:He's supposed to make calls and say, hey, buddy.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:What's up?
Marc:We're both doing well.
Marc:You know, you're right.
Guest:He directed an episode of The Office last year.
Guest:I mean, what the fuck?
Guest:How did he ever call you?
Guest:Where's my payback?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:That's what friends are for, right?
Marc:Can't you be like a goofy reporter or some?
Guest:Right?
Guest:I did that already in Evan Almighty.
Marc:with Steve Carell so how did you like it seems to me that you guys the one thing I don't understand about I think you're becoming sort of a character actor but but but before that you are a comic actor and it seems like guys like Carell guys like
Marc:uh feral and yourself you you know what it is that's funny about you fairly specifically and and you get cast for that on some level now was that a decisive thing i mean do you turn on something you said it was jackass but i think that's uh that's giving it short shrift but i mean do you know the type of juice you have to turn on to be funny
Guest:That's a good question.
Marc:Because you are sort of a type.
Marc:I mean, you've now, you know, in the Hangover movies, you're an earnest.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:But an earnest doofus.
Marc:Right.
Marc:Right?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:No, I think you've hit on it.
Guest:And people have been asking me lately, like, do you worry about being typecast?
Guest:And I'm...
Guest:I'm kind of like, well, I'm not going to get no one's going to give me the James Bond part.
Guest:You know, I mean, we have to be realistic about our parameters, right?
Guest:I am what I am and I'm going to get the parts that I'm right for.
Guest:So, yeah, and also it happens to be the things that I like doing comedically are kind of earnest chumps in a way.
Guest:Or doofus, as you put it.
Guest:I like that, earnest doofus.
Guest:I kind of feel like I move through the world a little more earnest than...
Guest:than people... Like, always sort of not understanding what's going on around me.
Guest:And so I relate to those characters.
Guest:Like, it's fun.
Guest:It's fun for me.
Guest:The last guy to know?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And the last guy... And I really was like...
Guest:The guy in high school that was the last to find out about where the cool party was or whatever.
Guest:Now, I wasn't like an outcast.
Guest:I wasn't somebody that – like if I showed up, it was not like I got beat up and kicked out or anything.
Guest:But no one would just think to tell me these things.
Marc:So you'd always show up last, and everyone was sort of closing up shop, and you were like, hey, what's going on?
Guest:Yeah, that or I'd hear about it Monday morning.
Marc:What do you mean there was a party?
Guest:I'll never forget, I went to a Blockbuster video one Saturday night in high school, and this really hot chick from my high school was there.
Guest:And I saw her, and I bumped into her, and I was like,
Guest:oh, my God, what's my lie?
Guest:Why am I home on a Saturday night?
Guest:And I was like, my cousin's in town, so we're just hanging out.
Guest:I thought I'd rent, you know, Fletch.
Guest:And just we'd hang out and watch it, and we got some guacamole and whatever.
Guest:So anyway, see you Monday.
Guest:And then I went home.
Guest:It took me like 10 years to look back on that moment and realize, like,
Guest:that girl was renting a movie on Saturday night too.
Guest:Like, why am I the loser?
Guest:Why did I just assume I was a loser because I was home on Saturday night?
Guest:So was she.
Guest:That's right.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:A missed opportunity.
Guest:You could have said, why don't we watch this together?
Guest:Right.
Guest:Or I could have been like, hey, what's your excuse to be at home on a Saturday night?
Marc:That probably would have got you better.
Marc:I don't know.
Marc:Because you would have been a dick.
Guest:No, but I think a lot of my time in New York City doing stand-up helped me find,
Guest:And I never got to a point doing stand up that I felt like I was super, super consistent.
Guest:I was I got to a place where I it did help me find my voice, so to speak.
Guest:That's what all comedians talk about.
Marc:Yeah, I mean, I'm not that aware of mine.
Marc:You know, I wish that like I always seem to be trying to figure out who I am.
Marc:But, you know, you seem pretty well grounded.
Marc:I mean, you must have a reasonable family life.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:I mean, what'd you grow up in?
Marc:Like, what's your story?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:A mom, a dad, and a brother and a sister.
Guest:No kidding.
Guest:You had all of those.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Good for you.
Guest:Older brother and older sister.
Guest:Really unsuccessful pets, though.
Guest:Oh, really?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Like, what do you mean?
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:Failures as pets?
Guest:I mean, I was probably 30 before I realized that...
Guest:my that our our limerunner baron yeah had not gone off to a farm like i genuinely i it's the thing where you hear uh you know you hear oh the dog's going off to the farm yeah whether it's going to be put down and and i heard you know that's just part of sort of
Guest:common knowledge the euphemism yeah sure but i literally didn't think that that applied to my to your dog and this is another thing you just realized so you it seems to me that you sit around and surprise yourself with the things you didn't know when you were young i really do i think i like little interactions will suddenly pop into my head and i'll be like now i get it now i understand that's a bad feeling sometimes
Guest:Well, it makes me sad for the adolescent me.
Guest:I mean, I think a lot of... I'm now at the point where I can laugh at it, but there were times where I've remembered moments or whatever and been like, oh, man.
Guest:How did I not?
Guest:That's just sad.
Marc:Like times where I missed opportunities or... Did you ever have that one where you liked a girl and you had decided that she was just the perfect girl and then you realized that she was just horrible?
Marc:Or that she was fucking the guy that's an idiot.
Marc:And you thought you were treating her like a normal person and not like some strumpet.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Or for me, it was more like I liked a girl and it took me 10 years to realize that she probably didn't hate me.
Guest:You know, that I had or that she didn't think I was like the biggest loser ever.
Guest:I definitely had that.
Guest:a little neurosis i think in high school that you were a loser yeah just for some i don't know what well who were you hanging out with losers yeah no uh like like how would you characterize yourself in the in the in the high school archetypes um
Guest:I think I was a little bit desperate and a little bit terrified of of females.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So terrified.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And nerdy.
Guest:Yeah, but I kind of knew what was cool, so I tried to be cool, and I had kind of longish hair at one point, and there was a little while where leather strap necklaces were cool with a little female clay bead or something.
Guest:You did a little of that?
Guest:Like kind of hippie-ish or whatever, but I also went to a very preppy school, so that was kind of edgy.
Guest:Right.
Guest:So you wore Dock Siders, but you had the hair.
Guest:Yeah, I had sort of shaggy hair.
Guest:But I went through, I don't know, lots of phases trying to figure it out.
Guest:Really?
Guest:Like, did you go through a David Bowie phase?
Guest:No, I never went through that real sort of...
Guest:Adam Ante.
Guest:No, you missed that.
Marc:That was a little late.
Marc:So you went through the slightly hippie phase.
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And then how about a punk rock?
Marc:No?
Marc:Did you spike it up?
Guest:No, not punk rock, but definitely like metal.
Guest:Oh, really?
Guest:Yeah, definitely some Sabbath.
Guest:Oh, really?
Guest:And then a little bit of Grateful Dead.
Guest:You went that way.
Guest:Classic rock.
Marc:You went Sabbath to Grateful Dead.
Guest:Well, I was trying it all.
Guest:I just was trying to find something that stuck for me.
Marc:And then did you feel like you came full circle to maybe what you were in elementary school?
Guest:I do remember a time in junior high when I sort of...
Guest:when I realized, like, oh, my gosh, I'm insecure.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And it hit me.
Guest:And then it took another 20 years to circle back to, like, right before that time in junior high, where I could usually be like, yeah, but so is everybody else, and it's fine.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:You know, and we're all going to be fine.
Marc:But, like, when you do, like, movies, it seems like you really, you must not think about that anymore.
Marc:I mean, you seem to commit, for Christ's sake.
Yeah.
Guest:Well, thank you.
Guest:I do find there's some liberation in finding ways.
Guest:For me, I love to find a way to love these really kind of...
Guest:awkward or scared characters like Andy Bernard on The Office is so not lovable in real life.
Guest:If that guy really did work next to you, you'd despise him.
Guest:But I just...
Guest:I really wanted to love him when we first sort of created Andy Bernard.
Guest:And so I just – if you give him a good heart and make him well-intentioned, you can kind of – he can still be awful.
Guest:Right.
Guest:But you just root for him.
Guest:You want him to do it right.
Guest:And that's kind of something I guess I relate to over –
Guest:I never really questioned whether or not I was a good person as a kid or as a teenager, but I definitely struggled with pettiness and being, I don't know, acting out in stupid ways.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Those are life struggles.
Guest:We're all trying to be better people, I guess, right?
Marc:Yeah, absolutely.
Marc:But how do you consciously, when you deal with the character, like today, what was the scene you did today?
Guest:um let's see did you shoot a whole show well no no no it's about five days for a show okay so we're right in the middle um and uh i did a scene today uh well you know what i can't i'm not gonna say because this is actually we're shooting michael's michael scott's uh you know he's winding down okay we're right in the middle of that so i'm not gonna spoil anything
Marc:Okay, but when you say that you love the character, that just means that you approach, so you approach the character, you know, even as awful as he may seem, but you approach it with a certain amount of earnestness and like, you know, he's trying to be a better guy.
Guest:Yeah, just as long as I don't question where his heart is at the end of the day, I can sort of rationalize him doing some awful things.
Guest:And that's how I think I am able to live with myself, too.
Guest:All the things that I'm ashamed of or embarrassed about or feel awkward about in my past, I try to... Now I'm...
Guest:Got no point where I can sort of like give myself a little slack.
Guest:Oh, that's good.
Guest:Because I think I'm a good guy.
Guest:Like on the inside.
Guest:You didn't kill anyone.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah, I did.
Guest:A few, huh?
Guest:A lot.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Just on the way here, right?
Guest:Like five.
Guest:By the way, I have to say, when I pulled up, you were in your front yard with a flashlight.
Marc:I thought you were robbing yourself.
Marc:I do that sometimes.
Marc:I role play here at home.
Marc:And then I go back in the house and I say, who's out there?
Marc:And then I go out front with a flashlight.
Marc:I was trying to fix a light.
Marc:So now we're the new Hangover movie.
Marc:You guys were in where?
Marc:Thailand?
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:You play the same guy.
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Guest:I'm still Stu Price, dentist at large.
Guest:And what is the plot of this one?
Guest:Can we talk about that?
Guest:I don't think so.
Guest:I'm sorry.
Guest:I hate to be kind of stiff here.
Guest:How much improvisation does Todd let you do?
Guest:Todd's great about improvisation, although he hits a wall.
Guest:It's really funny working with him because we'll be improvising, and then he'll just be like, okay, just do it like it's written.
Guest:my mistake at some point like we'll start improvising from the very first take yeah and then and improvisation is not always successful you only see in movies the part that's successful but out of the 24 hour shot yeah like you spend a lot of time like just kind of spinning your wheels
Guest:And Todd is, fortunately, we had a great script that Scott Armstrong and Todd and Craig Mazin had written.
Guest:So we could always go back to that.
Guest:And you know Zach pretty well.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Yeah, I go back a little ways with Zach.
Guest:We overlapped a little bit in New York City.
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marc:It just looks like it's so much fucking fun.
Guest:Yeah, that's a good crew.
Guest:How did they make your tooth look like it was gone?
Guest:It was gone.
Guest:What?
Guest:For real.
Guest:Yeah, this is an implanted tooth right here.
Guest:What are you talking about?
Guest:You removed your tooth for the movie?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:No, you did not.
Guest:You see how these all just look like chiclets?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It's because they're too perfect.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:This one I was born without.
Guest:I never had a tooth there.
Guest:So I had an implant put in when I was a teenager.
Guest:And they just took it out for the movie?
Guest:And my dentist... I didn't want to, but...
Guest:But we tried all these tests with blacking it out and stuff, because it was in the script.
Guest:And then I just said, finally, I kind of brought it up, and I was like, I could ask my dentist if he could take this one out.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And he said he could do it, and it was fine.
Marc:And they just unscrewed it?
Guest:Well, they had to, like, break the cap off and then unscrew it and then put in a temporary thing and all this stuff.
Guest:It was a little bit of a hassle, but... So it was really out.
Guest:It was really gone, yeah.
Guest:Can you hear me wheezing now?
Guest:I'm sorry, dude.
Guest:God, it's like a... Do you want a Benadryl?
Guest:Did you, like... I have a lot of cats around.
Guest:Is this mic pop guard made out of cat fur?
Guest:No, no.
Guest:I'm wheezing now.
Guest:Okay.
Guest:Sound like Rip Taylor.
Guest:I feel bad.
Guest:You're just going to wheeze.
Guest:So the tooth was gone.
Guest:Tooth was gone, 100%.
Guest:Oh, that's a commitment.
Guest:That was really fun, actually, that that worked out.
Guest:And the funny thing is, I don't even know if I've told anyone this publicly, but I was shooting The Office at the same time.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I was doing like four days on The Hangover and then three days on The Office for a while, seven days a week.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And I couldn't.
Guest:Let the office know that I'd taken my tooth out because.
Guest:it affected my speech and so I had a retainer with a fake tooth on it that I could pop in and out and I would pop it in and like people close to me could tell that my speech was off and if you go back and watch those episodes you might be able to tell a tiny bit but if I had actually told them that this was a fake tooth I would have gotten in a ton of trouble so I bluffed my way through those like four episodes and
Guest:Because it was a contractual issue.
Guest:Well, just because I think if they had known, I would have gotten in a lot of trouble.
Guest:I don't know if it was contractual.
Guest:I'm sure there is a contract thing that's like you can't dramatically alter your face.
Guest:Your mouth.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:So you pulled it off.
Guest:You do sign all kinds of weird stuff.
Guest:You can't ride motorcycles and snow skis.
Guest:Is that true?
Guest:Yeah, yeah.
Guest:It's because they don't want you to hurt yourself.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It's for the insurance.
Guest:If you're a...
Guest:If you're like a triathlete or a motorcycle person or like a skydiver, their insurance rates go way up.
Guest:So you got to lie about the skydiving.
Guest:Yeah, for me.
Guest:Are you any of those things?
Guest:I've ridden motorcycles.
Guest:I like those, but now I have a Vespa.
Guest:You do?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And where do you drive that?
Guest:Around, I don't live far from here.
Guest:You live in the valley?
Guest:No, over in Silver Lake.
Guest:You do?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And you drive your Vespa around Silver Lake?
Marc:Mm-hmm.
Marc:Down to that coffee shop there, the expensive one?
Marc:Makes it by the cup?
Guest:I'm kind of a Starbucks guy.
Guest:Really?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:It was a nice place I saw on the way over here, Cafe de Leche.
Guest:Is that good?
Guest:Yeah, it's nice.
Guest:It's new.
Guest:He's a good guy.
Guest:That looked like a cool place.
Marc:Check that out.
Marc:So you seem very well adjusted.
Marc:You don't seem to have a lot of darkness to you, Ed.
Marc:Are your parents happy with you?
Marc:My parents are proud, for sure.
Guest:Yeah?
Marc:Do they come to premieres and stuff?
Guest:When I let them, yes.
Guest:Why wouldn't you let them?
Guest:No, they do.
Guest:They come to premieres.
Guest:My mom... Well, because I was humiliated by the hangover.
Guest:I mean...
Guest:Not not in a bad way.
Guest:I'm incredibly proud of it.
Guest:Yeah, but it's just not what you want your mom to see.
Guest:And really, I don't know.
Guest:I was scared that what was I mean, those pictures at the end are pretty awful.
Guest:And like, it's all great.
Guest:I love it.
Guest:It's funny.
Guest:Right.
Guest:Funny.
Guest:And it's silly.
Guest:But it's still like my mom's from Nashville and she.
Guest:And God bless her.
Guest:She's just sort of old school in that way.
Guest:Doesn't doesn't think that doesn't like the dirty doesn't like the dirty or doesn't like her son being dirty.
Guest:Really?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:We brought up in sort of like a kind of a conservative.
Guest:Christian-y Southern thing?
Guest:I was.
Guest:My school was very much that way.
Guest:But my parents weren't.
Guest:My parents, for some reason, found each other in the sea of Southern conservatism and are both fairly progressive Democrats.
Uh-huh.
Guest:Yeah, and there's a long tradition of, like, Georgia Democrats.
Guest:Sure, oh, definitely, yeah.
Guest:Jim Carter and all that.
Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest:So Andy Young.
Guest:My dad actually worked on Andy Young's campaign.
Guest:He was the first black mayor of Atlanta.
Marc:Yeah, and were you very political or no?
Guest:Am I?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I have strong opinions, and I'm kind of a news junkie, which is why I had such a great time at The Daily Show.
Guest:But I'm not very...
Guest:I have strong opinions and I'll get into it with people, but it's not part of my identity necessarily.
Marc:I like this idea that once your mother saw the hangover, what was her reaction?
Guest:She was crying.
Guest:And I couldn't tell if she was laughing or proud or horrified.
Guest:Fortunately, it was some combination of the first two.
Guest:She thought The Hangover... This is the thing I don't understand.
Guest:My mom and all of her friends, and my mom is 70, her friends loved The Hangover.
Guest:Sure.
Guest:What's up with that?
Marc:That movie was huge, dude.
Marc:Everybody liked it.
Marc:You know why?
Marc:Because Cooper is cute.
Marc:I mean, it really covered, you know, there was something, I think the reason women like it is I thought as weird as it got, it was still like, it kind of burst that bubble.
Marc:It took it way over the top of what women, what are they doing?
Marc:Yeah.
Marc:And I also think that the whole journey that because it ends up at a wedding, women love that.
Marc:I mean, that movie was across the board popular with everybody because it was so fucking fun.
Guest:Yeah.
Marc:And it just went over the top.
Guest:I think one of the and this is come out of like, I don't know, I get asked about it all the time.
Guest:And part of what I've sort of the conclusion I've come to is that what makes it.
Guest:And why I think I responded to the script when I first read it was that these guys do awful things, but they're just as horrified by it as everyone else.
Guest:You know what I mean?
Guest:They don't even know what they've done.
Guest:And as they find out, they're just as mortified.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I mean, you sang a song.
Guest:Did you make that song up?
Guest:Yeah, the song was was.
Guest:Not spontaneous in the moment, but it was something we came up with that day.
Guest:Because I was playing that piano was on the set, and I kept playing it just to sort of make the crew laugh and goof around and stuff.
Guest:And then Todd was like, let's put a song in here.
Guest:It's the perfect spot for it.
Guest:But when Mike Tyson started singing, how many times did you have to do that?
Guest:For the singing, when he sings the song, I think that was...
Guest:Something they did separately.
Guest:Oh, okay.
Guest:And that was used as like a teaser.
Guest:Right.
Guest:But in the... No, what am I talking about?
Guest:Of course he sings it when we walk in.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:I don't know.
Guest:I don't know what I'm talking about.
Marc:I'm sorry.
Marc:Maybe the oxygen is not getting to your head.
Guest:I know.
Guest:I'm too wheezing to it.
Marc:Well, let's just talk... Oh, my God.
Marc:This is a first.
Marc:Cat hair.
Marc:Let's talk about Cedar Rapids.
Guest:Yes.
Guest:I'm so psyched about this thing.
Marc:And you play a straight guy.
Marc:Like, I mean, you're not as much a goofball as you usually are.
Guest:Well, he's kind of extreme.
Marc:Yeah.
Guest:What is the plot of that movie?
Guest:It's out, so I think you can share it.
Guest:Oh, yeah, of course.
Guest:Tim Lippey is the main character, and he's from this tiny town in Wisconsin called Brown Valley, and it's like...
Guest:I mean, literally three or four hundred people.
Guest:And he's never left.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:And he works in this little insurance office.
Guest:And and he's and then he's forced to go to an insurance convention to save his company in in Cedar Rapids.
Guest:OK.
Guest:So Cedar Rapids is sort of this incredibly terrifying, throbbing metropolis to him, to Tim Lippey.
Guest:And that's sort of.
Guest:That's really the fun of the story is that what's so mundane and normal to a lot of us is, like, utterly terrifying to Tim.
Guest:And, you know, at first blush, he looks like kind of a small-town Rube character or archetype.
Guest:But what I love about it is that he's actually kind of a heartbreaking figure.
Guest:You learn that, like, he lost his parents when he was very young and never really had...
Guest:Like, it kind of rationalizes how stunted he is.
Guest:And it's not just like, oh, he's from a small town, so he's sheltered.
Guest:But he's actually way more sheltered than... Like, he's terrified of the world around him.
Guest:And Riley plays what?
Guest:Riley is this just super obnoxious, blowhard...
Guest:But now I'll tell you about his character.
Guest:Oh, there you go.
Guest:No, he plays this obnoxious guy, Dean Ziegler.
Guest:Dean Z. And he comes to the convention every year, and it's sort of like his homecoming.
Marc:Is he the guy that's going to take your character out of his shell and kind of do that thing?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Drag him through the... Come on, man!
Guest:Sort of, yeah.
Guest:He's sort of the...
Guest:the tour guide.
Guest:Does it end well?
Guest:It does end well.
Guest:Yeah, it actually ends very well.
Guest:And it gets... It does... It goes a little dark.
Guest:It actually... The final movie is not even as dark as we wanted to make it.
Guest:What got taken out?
Guest:Well, believe it or not, in the original draft, there was...
Guest:There was like a kidnapping and like some real violence.
Guest:And what we have now is a movie that is much, in a good way, sweeter.
Guest:And whereas I loved that stuff, it had kind of a Coen Brothers thing going.
Guest:Got a little too out there, yeah.
Guest:It just seemed, it just at the end of the day...
Guest:was starting to feel like a movie that you wouldn't want to see.
Guest:Were you involved in the cutting?
Guest:Well, a lot of that happened before we started shooting, actually.
Guest:A lot of the script revisions and stuff.
Guest:Is there a love interest?
Guest:Yes, Anne Heche.
Guest:Oh, that's right.
Guest:Well, actually, this little nerdy character makes out with, he has sex with Sigourney Weaver.
Guest:You do?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Did you get to actually kiss her?
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:How was that?
Guest:I have simulated sex with her.
Guest:Was it great?
Guest:It's extraordinary.
Guest:You can see it in the movie.
Marc:Oh, my God.
Marc:Did you have that moment where you're like, I'm having simulated sex with Sigourney Weaver?
Guest:Yeah, I have it.
Guest:Every time I watch the movie, I'm stunned.
Guest:I can't even believe it.
Guest:I feel like I...
Guest:I feel like it's some sort of rite of passage to have a sex scene.
Guest:Was she naked?
Guest:Not quite like a, you know, camisole or whatever.
Guest:That's spectacular.
Guest:But yeah, that's one of the that's one of the things that early on in the movie, he's having sort of an affair with the woman who was his junior high teacher.
Guest:And that's Sigourney Weaver.
Marc:Oh, wow.
Marc:And she's in Cedar Rapids?
Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marc:That's what I'm talking about.
Marc:No, no, but I mean the city.
Guest:Because you said he came from a small city.
Guest:No, no, she's in Brown Valley, Wisconsin.
Guest:For a second, I was like, yes, that all is in the movie Cedar Rapids.
Guest:Not real life, let's be clear.
Guest:Have you noticed a progressively wheezier breath in the microphone?
Marc:Yeah, it sounds all right.
Marc:I feel bad for you.
Marc:It's never happened before.
Marc:I should probably have Benadryl out here.
Guest:Are we going to play another song?
Marc:Yeah, we're going to play ourselves out.
Marc:All right.
Marc:Do you want to?
Guest:Sure.
Marc:What's another one?
Marc:Do you know any in the minor chords?
Marc:I think banjo sounds...
Marc:For those of you who are, well, you've been listening the whole time, but that is Ed Helms on the banjo.
Marc:His new film, Cedar Rapids, is in select theaters spreading.
Marc:And I think this... Oh, isn't that banjo wheeze?
Marc:Or was that you, Ed?
Marc:What key was that in?
Guest:That's like a modal G. I don't even know what I would play there.
Guest:You could play something minor, E minor, G and E minor.
Guest:Really?
Guest:G minor?
Guest:G minor.
Guest:Yeah.
Guest:Boggy Mountain Breakdown is G and E minor.
Guest:Oh, really?
What's that one?
Guest:We go to a D?
Guest:Go to the D. Yeah.
Marc:Ed Helms, ladies and gentlemen.
Marc:All right.
Marc:Thanks, Mark.
Marc:You bet.
Marc:Ed Helms and myself having a Cat Ranch Garage Jam.
Marc:I'm sorry if my guitar is a little out of tune.
Marc:I tried.
Marc:Look, I'm not going to get insecure about it.
Marc:I had a good time.
Marc:Who knew?
Marc:I didn't know.
Marc:Ed brought his banjo.
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Marc:All those are there.
Marc:And, of course, apps.
Marc:Go to the App Store, get the WTF app for iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad, Droid.
Marc:That'll let you stream all of our earlier episodes.
Marc:As always, the most recent 50 are free to everyone.
Guest:And those apps will enable you to stream all of the older episodes from number one.
Guest:Dig that.
Marc:Is there anything else I can tell you?
Marc:PunchlineMagazine.com.
Marc:That's good.
Marc:JustCoffee.coop.
Marc:That's at the site.
Guest:Man, if you get that WTF plan, I get a little bit of money from that.
Guest:And I'm on the label.
Guest:That's something.
Guest:Ed Helms, man.
Guest:I'm fucking banjo.
Guest:Don't Google cancer.
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