Episode 1253 - Marlon Wayans

Episode 1253 • Released August 16, 2021 • Speakers detected

00:00:00Marc:all right let's do this how are you what the fuckers what the fuck buddies what the fuck nicks what's happening i'm mark maron this is my show wtf welcome to it how's it going today on the show marlon wayans is here marlon and i

00:00:26Marc:Had a pretty fucking good time shooting respect together.

00:00:30Marc:A lot of laughs.

00:00:30Marc:He's a good audience.

00:00:32Marc:I can make Marlon laugh, and I like to make people laugh.

00:00:35Marc:There are certain types of people that I can make laugh right to their face by even busting their balls a bit, and Marlon's kind of like that.

00:00:44Marc:So this is a fun conversation.

00:00:46Marc:I don't know how informative it is, but we definitely had some laughs.

00:00:51Marc:He's in respect.

00:00:52Marc:He plays Ted White.

00:00:54Marc:who is Aretha's abusive husband.

00:00:57Marc:And he's great.

00:00:58Marc:He's great.

00:00:58Marc:He also has a new stand-up special, Marlon Wayans, You Know What It Is, which premieres this Thursday on HBO Max.

00:01:06Marc:Also, I will be coming to New York City in November for the New York Comedy Festival, Friday, November 13th, 7 p.m.

00:01:13Marc:at Town Hall.

00:01:15Marc:There will be a presale.

00:01:16Marc:That starts Wednesday, August 18th at 11 a.m.

00:01:20Marc:Eastern and goes through Sunday, August 22nd.

00:01:23Marc:Presale code is NYCF at NYComedyFestival.com.

00:01:31Marc:All right.

00:01:32Marc:So that's going to happen.

00:01:34Marc:The general on sale is Monday, August 23rd at 10 a.m.

00:01:40Marc:One show at Town Hall.

00:01:42Marc:I believe it will be enough.

00:01:44Marc:I believe that to be true.

00:01:46Marc:I just got back from Phoenix.

00:01:48Marc:I drove to and from Phoenix through the desert heat.

00:01:52Marc:Had plans, man.

00:01:53Marc:I had work to do.

00:01:55Marc:Had work to do in the car.

00:01:57Marc:I'm losing my mind.

00:01:58Marc:You know what I mean?

00:01:59Marc:Some days it's very hard.

00:02:00Marc:I can't.

00:02:01Marc:I don't even know what day it is half the time.

00:02:04Marc:I don't know what day it is.

00:02:05Marc:I did comedy last night.

00:02:07Marc:It was a little tense.

00:02:09Marc:Maybe I should re-engage with the therapist.

00:02:15Marc:So I was in Phoenix for two days at the Vax Only shows.

00:02:20Marc:It's weird when you're in a place like Phoenix, which is a sort of hot crucible of dumb fuckery, politically and socially, a barely purple city.

00:02:31Marc:I like this whole sort of blue city thing.

00:02:35Marc:We're a blue city surrounded by red.

00:02:37Marc:Yeah, and you live in fear.

00:02:39Marc:I know it's a pride point, but I don't know, man.

00:02:43Marc:It's like, no, it's OK.

00:02:44Marc:We just don't talk about things.

00:02:46Marc:Oh, well, that sounds good.

00:02:48Marc:But Phoenix is I have a lot of history in Phoenix.

00:02:51Marc:It's sort of on some level a return to where some of the trauma occurred.

00:02:56Marc:I got married in Phoenix.

00:02:58Marc:My first wife was from Phoenix.

00:03:00Marc:My brother lived in Phoenix.

00:03:02Marc:I got a lot of Phoenix experience.

00:03:04Marc:I know Phoenix fairly well.

00:03:06Marc:But the vaccine element of the show, the fact that people were vaxxed or tested, given the current political climate, felt like it was a fucking secret meeting.

00:03:15Marc:And I didn't know how it would go because it's a big corporate club, Stand Up Live.

00:03:18Marc:You know, it's a big...

00:03:20Marc:It's almost like an improv.

00:03:21Marc:I think the guy, I don't do improvs because I don't owe them anything.

00:03:25Marc:But I think the guy who owns Stand Up Live has a piece of some improvs.

00:03:29Marc:But I don't know, somehow or another, I've made an exception.

00:03:32Marc:And it's a big room, but we sold out all the tickets that they were selling.

00:03:36Marc:And the shows were great.

00:03:38Marc:I think the step up from, it's not a step up, but the kind of evolution of where the set is going from Dynasty Typewriter to the Denver Comedy Works and then to a bigger corporate environment and then to Salt Lake, which I think is politically going to be the most divisive city I've been in.

00:03:56Marc:Well, that St.

00:03:57Marc:Louis, but that's a...

00:03:58Marc:Blue City in a red state, a borderline theocratic red state of Missouri, where people proudly live in mild fear.

00:04:10Marc:But the Desert Drive was nice.

00:04:13Marc:I always like I and I really this time it was like a lot of times I'm like, I'm just going to drive and I'm like, why the fuck did I drive?

00:04:19Marc:But this was perfect.

00:04:20Marc:Five and a half hours straight east through the desert to Phoenix.

00:04:25Marc:I got some work done.

00:04:26Marc:I did.

00:04:27Marc:I got some work done.

00:04:28Marc:I did.

00:04:29Marc:But anyway, so I decided I would commit to taking the drive and learning the songs that I'm going to be singing and playing at the Largo show on August 26th with Sold Out.

00:04:42Marc:That sold out.

00:04:44Marc:And I kind of did that.

00:04:47Marc:And I did some writing and I did some thinking and I did some listening to music.

00:04:51Marc:And I just the desert, man, driving through the fucking desert is very satisfying.

00:04:58Marc:Though my back hurt a little bit.

00:05:00Marc:I'm falling apart, man.

00:05:01Marc:I feel my shoulders.

00:05:02Marc:Does anyone carry tension in their shoulders?

00:05:04Marc:Used to be my back, but now my shoulders are tight.

00:05:07Marc:Is it the thing from my nail?

00:05:08Marc:Is it already too late?

00:05:09Marc:God damn it, man.

00:05:11Marc:I'm telling you, man.

00:05:12Marc:I'm telling you.

00:05:13Marc:When you live in the shadow of somebody getting sick and dying in your house, it's a fucking heavy thing because you realize on some level that just can happen.

00:05:23Marc:That can just happen.

00:05:25Marc:And it's going to happen.

00:05:26Marc:You just hope you had a nice full run, you know.

00:05:30Marc:Anyways, I don't want to get dark or grim.

00:05:33Marc:The feedback on the movie Respect has been great.

00:05:36Marc:i'm very proud to be in it i got this weird box of merch from i think the aretha franklin estate no card no nothing didn't ask for it came to the po box five or six t-shirts a mug a shopping bag a patch aretha stuff no note i'm not even i think it came from the estate but it was sort of like i almost took it as like suit up you're on team aretha now suit up suit the fuck up

00:06:02Marc:Marlon and I were kind of we caused some mischief on set.

00:06:05Marc:We're having some laughs.

00:06:07Marc:I got to be honest with you.

00:06:08Marc:We had some laughs at some other people's expense privately.

00:06:11Marc:That's OK, right?

00:06:12Marc:Can you still do that privately if it's just two of you giggling as some bullshit at the expense of someone else?

00:06:18Marc:Is that OK or is that kind of some grade school bullshit?

00:06:22Marc:So Marlon, his comedy special, Marlon Wayans, You Know What It Is, premieres this Thursday, August 19th on HBO Max.

00:06:31Marc:He's currently in the movie Respect with Jennifer Hudson and me, which is now in theaters.

00:06:35Marc:This is me talking to Marlon Wayans.

00:06:48Marc:It's all audio?

00:06:49Marc:It's all audio, yeah.

00:06:50Marc:Oh, no video.

00:06:51Marc:No video, dude.

00:06:52Guest:Oh, perfect.

00:06:53Marc:Yeah, isn't that nice?

00:06:54Marc:It's relaxing.

00:06:55Marc:I thought you used to do a... Never did video.

00:06:57Marc:Never.

00:06:58Marc:You should.

00:06:59Marc:You're funny as fuck.

00:07:00Marc:I know I am, Doug.

00:07:01Guest:I love you.

00:07:02Marc:You're the craziest little guy in the world.

00:07:06Marc:I'm so fucking funny.

00:07:07Marc:You're crazy.

00:07:09Marc:I watched your whole fucking special.

00:07:11Marc:I'm sorry about that.

00:07:12Marc:I know.

00:07:12Marc:You ought to be sorry about it.

00:07:15Marc:I'm like, out of respect, I'll try to get through this mess.

00:07:21Marc:Probably not your cup of tea.

00:07:23Marc:What do you mean?

00:07:23Marc:I've been doing comedy most of my life.

00:07:26Marc:Yeah, but you don't like that funny stuff.

00:07:30Marc:That's the guy that don't want to say he's whack.

00:07:32Marc:You still don't like funny stuff.

00:07:34Marc:No, I liked it.

00:07:35Marc:I thought there was some nice construction, some nice through lines.

00:07:40Marc:You had the Audi belly button callbacks.

00:07:44Guest:Sure, sure.

00:07:44Marc:I appreciate that.

00:07:45Marc:You know what this is.

00:07:46Marc:You know what it is.

00:07:47Marc:You know what it is.

00:07:49Guest:Yeah, you know, it's funny, like callbacks, people underestimate it.

00:07:54Guest:They love them.

00:07:55Guest:But it takes you so long.

00:07:56Guest:To find them?

00:07:58Guest:Yeah, as a comedian.

00:07:59Guest:But once you find a couple, you're like, oh, God, this is so great.

00:08:01Guest:I couldn't even think that way.

00:08:02Guest:This is so great.

00:08:03Guest:Like 10 years ago.

00:08:04Guest:I mean, five years ago, I couldn't think that way.

00:08:06Guest:Well, you get hooked on them.

00:08:07Guest:I don't want to do that.

00:08:08Marc:I don't want to be that guy either.

00:08:10Marc:No, but I mean, once you learn the device, once you, like, the first time you do a callback and you realize the audience is just like,

00:08:16Guest:Oh, my God.

00:08:18Guest:That's from the older, that's from the Joker.

00:08:22Marc:You're like, they're just like crazy.

00:08:23Marc:You're like, I got to figure out how to at least have one of these or two in an hour because the audience is just every time like, that's from the other joke.

00:08:34Guest:That's so true.

00:08:36Marc:Oh, they love it.

00:08:36Guest:I called back like five times.

00:08:38Guest:Yeah, I know.

00:08:39Guest:You know it works.

00:08:40Guest:It's like, all right, here it comes again.

00:08:41Marc:Bow!

00:08:42Marc:Yeah, the last one, the last one, that one, you know, that was good.

00:08:47Marc:I didn't know how you were going to save that bit.

00:08:49Guest:Callbacks, man.

00:08:52Guest:I know.

00:08:52Marc:That's how you say this.

00:08:53Marc:How's he gonna close?

00:08:54Marc:It looks like the time's almost out, but this bit's going nowhere.

00:08:59Marc:You got a little too truthful.

00:09:03Guest:You ever tell that much truth that you don't know how to get out of it?

00:09:06Marc:Oh, every time.

00:09:06Marc:At that point in the show, the audience like, went from loving me to fucking hating me.

00:09:11Marc:It's the name of my new special, Too Much Truth, I Can't Get Out.

00:09:15Marc:That's it.

00:09:16Marc:I can't get out.

00:09:17Marc:That's my new special.

00:09:18Marc:Call back.

00:09:19Marc:Save me.

00:09:19Marc:Yeah, yeah.

00:09:21Marc:Well, that's why it was kind of funny about you.

00:09:23Marc:You're sort of like this self-aware dude, and you're laying it out with a good father shit, and you're trying to be a good guy, and how you treat your kids.

00:09:32Marc:And then you got the big statement just followed by just garbage.

00:09:35Marc:All of a sudden, it's like, how'd we get here?

00:09:38Marc:I thought he was really revealing himself.

00:09:40Marc:He's like, couldn't stay in it.

00:09:42Marc:Couldn't stay in it.

00:09:43Marc:And I got to...

00:09:43Marc:I gotta pick up, I gotta fuck the stool, I gotta put it on my head, I gotta... I was gonna call the special Hot Boiling Mess.

00:09:55Guest:Because I feel, I think I have good intentions, but I am crazy and I just, I think differently and I say good shit.

00:10:02Guest:I say nice things wrapped in a turd.

00:10:05Guest:Right.

00:10:05Marc:Yeah.

00:10:06Marc:No, you like to do that.

00:10:07Marc:It's like, oh, wow, this is nice.

00:10:08Marc:I'm like, where are we now?

00:10:10Marc:I make you dig through shit to get a good sentiment.

00:10:14Marc:I know.

00:10:15Marc:And maybe I'm being a little too hard on you, and I apologize.

00:10:17Marc:But you did, within five minutes, have a stool on your head and your ass out.

00:10:22Yeah.

00:10:22Marc:Within five.

00:10:24Marc:I'm like, his ass is out.

00:10:25Marc:It's five.

00:10:27Guest:Don't you close with your ass out?

00:10:29Guest:It was seven.

00:10:30Marc:It was seven and a half.

00:10:32Marc:To be fair, Mark.

00:10:34Marc:Maybe that's true.

00:10:36Marc:Let me ask you a question.

00:10:37Marc:I don't even want to perform in Florida.

00:10:39Marc:What made you go like, I'm going to be outdoors in fucking Miami?

00:10:44Guest:They were the only motherfuckers open.

00:10:48Guest:It's either that or Texas.

00:10:50Guest:I'm going to choose Miami.

00:10:52Guest:I'm sorry.

00:10:53Marc:Oh, so you shot during the pandemic?

00:10:54Marc:Yeah.

00:10:55Marc:Oh.

00:10:55Guest:I shot in May.

00:10:57Guest:And nobody was, there was all these regulations.

00:10:59Guest:You had to do outdoor.

00:11:00Guest:Yeah.

00:11:00Guest:I don't want to film an outdoor special.

00:11:02Guest:I had to film an outdoor special.

00:11:03Guest:I couldn't believe it.

00:11:04Guest:It's hard because.

00:11:05Guest:You worked hard.

00:11:06Guest:It's fucking impossible.

00:11:07Guest:You got helicopters flying over, airplanes.

00:11:10Guest:It's right by the airport.

00:11:11Guest:There's a carnival.

00:11:13Marc:Did you even sell tickets or just put signs up?

00:11:15Guest:I gave them one.

00:11:17Guest:I could have sold tickets.

00:11:18Guest:Just like parks open for Marlin.

00:11:20Guest:How did you get the audience?

00:11:22Guest:Don't feed the animals.

00:11:24Marc:Just wandered in.

00:11:27Marc:It looked like there was an amphitheater.

00:11:30Marc:Oh, so it was enclosed?

00:11:31Marc:I couldn't tell.

00:11:32Marc:It was an enclosed amphitheater.

00:11:33Marc:It looked like you just set up shop, built a platform, put your initials on it, and you waited for people.

00:11:39Guest:Charlie Barnett.

00:11:40Guest:Yeah, right, right, right.

00:11:43Marc:Charlie.

00:11:44Guest:Wow.

00:11:45Guest:I haven't heard that name in a while.

00:11:46Guest:Yeah, man.

00:11:47Guest:I've been around.

00:11:48Guest:I'm older than my face looks.

00:11:49Guest:Do you remember Charlie in New York?

00:11:51Guest:Yeah, I remember when he was the nook man.

00:11:53Guest:Remember, he was the nook man!

00:11:55Guest:Me and my brothers, I was going to Comedy Cellar and around that neighborhood.

00:12:01Guest:Damon would take me and Sean out when we was like eight.

00:12:04Marc:When he was in Washington Square Park?

00:12:05Guest:Yeah, we used to go by there.

00:12:07Guest:And then I saw him and Chappelle out there one time.

00:12:10Guest:Right.

00:12:11Guest:And so, you know, look...

00:12:12Marc:Here's the beauty of comedy.

00:12:13Marc:When Chappelle was the resurrection of Charlie via Chappelle.

00:12:18Marc:You can't make Charlie anything but Charlie, though, it turns out.

00:12:21Guest:Yeah.

00:12:21Marc:Yeah.

00:12:21Guest:But he tried.

00:12:22Guest:Yeah.

00:12:24Guest:Here's the thing.

00:12:25Guest:But as a comedian, you know, you can perform literally anywhere.

00:12:29Guest:I've seen you at some weird fucking places performing.

00:12:32Guest:I've seen you at coffee houses.

00:12:34Guest:Yeah, sure.

00:12:34Guest:Coffee shops.

00:12:35Guest:I don't like it, though.

00:12:36Guest:I think you bumped me.

00:12:36Guest:You bumped me a few times.

00:12:38Guest:No, I did not.

00:12:39Guest:Why would I bump you?

00:12:40Guest:You had a lot to say.

00:12:40Guest:I never...

00:12:41Guest:I never bumped you.

00:12:43Marc:You were mostly at the improv.

00:12:44Guest:No, you know what's funny?

00:12:46Guest:When I first started, I would go to the coffee shops.

00:12:48Guest:You did?

00:12:49Guest:I'd go to the coffee shops.

00:12:50Guest:I'd go to this little weird place.

00:12:51Guest:It was like on, between like Santa Monica, not Boulevard, Santa Monica Boulevard.

00:12:56Guest:It was like in this little like,

00:12:57Guest:It was like, I don't know, a fucking stage.

00:13:00Marc:Was it like the Un-Cabaret?

00:13:02Marc:Was it that place?

00:13:03Guest:Like off Robertson?

00:13:05Guest:No, this was further east.

00:13:06Guest:Oh.

00:13:07Guest:And then I seen you downtown.

00:13:08Guest:I got to always see you at these weird places, and everybody would be so excited.

00:13:12Marc:When I first got here.

00:13:13Guest:No, but you were so funny.

00:13:15Guest:You could talk, though, and you were smart.

00:13:17Guest:I was like, this nigga reads the newspaper.

00:13:19Guest:He don't watch the news.

00:13:20Marc:Yeah.

00:13:20Guest:This motherfucker reads the paper.

00:13:22Marc:I'm doing the thinking, man.

00:13:23Marc:I'm doing the big thing.

00:13:24Marc:And I noticed that like, you know, you kind of like, I saw that in the special for Miami.

00:13:28Marc:He's like, he's kind of doing me a little bit.

00:13:30Guest:He's like, you know, he's when I pull my ass out.

00:13:34Marc:He's thinking, you know, he's like, he's like halfway to having some good thoughts.

00:13:38Marc:This guy.

00:13:40Marc:I'm not a thinking man.

00:13:42Marc:I'm just not.

00:13:42Marc:No, you are.

00:13:43Marc:You are.

00:13:43Marc:I am, but different.

00:13:44Marc:Here's the thing.

00:13:44Marc:I like the best, though, is when you made it seem like when you're telling the story about getting busted for cheating.

00:13:53Marc:You're like, am I going to do this?

00:13:56Marc:Am I going to tell you guys?

00:13:59Marc:Yeah, you know what I'm going to do.

00:14:03Fuck it.

00:14:03Marc:Like, wow, he's really going to lay something out here.

00:14:07Guest:He's finally going to tell this 10-year-old story.

00:14:10Guest:And then the quicksand hit.

00:14:12Guest:Hey, let me tell you something.

00:14:13Guest:It could be 40 years old.

00:14:14Guest:When you get caught, Gene, I still hear it.

00:14:16Guest:It's like it happened yesterday.

00:14:18Guest:I can't get over it.

00:14:19Guest:The kids can't get over it.

00:14:20Guest:I'm like, come on.

00:14:21Guest:What was that?

00:14:22Guest:Fuck, I'm not even with them.

00:14:23Guest:the bitch anymore.

00:14:25Marc:It's 2013 or 14?

00:14:26Marc:I knocked it out of my memory.

00:14:29Marc:As far as I'm concerned, it was yesterday.

00:14:32Marc:No, I get it.

00:14:33Marc:When you do something embarrassing and stupid and you don't get away with it,

00:14:39Guest:dumbest shit ever it was funny you thought you had it though i mean you're on a boat i'm on a boat but i got like what's those things floaties i can't swim that good yeah what's those things you put on kids arms oh yeah yeah yeah i don't know what that is i look so not cool it was just oh that was i don't know the picture i know i'm not up to speed on it happened a long time ago you gotta get you gotta watch see the pictures oh yeah they're good huh proud proud moment

00:15:03Guest:And I can't erase it.

00:15:04Guest:I've been trying to get it off.

00:15:06Guest:When you Google Marlon Wayans yacht, if you ever do, that picture shows up.

00:15:10Guest:Still there?

00:15:10Marc:They're all there?

00:15:11Guest:All the time.

00:15:12Guest:But wait, where'd you grow up?

00:15:15Guest:Speaking of segues.

00:15:16Marc:Yeah, because we were talking about New York.

00:15:18Marc:I'm good at this, man.

00:15:20Marc:I'm just trying to get off the yacht, you know.

00:15:24Marc:Trying to go back to the beginning.

00:15:27Guest:I kind of like the... I like stating it.

00:15:30Guest:You feel that uncomfortableness, Mark?

00:15:32Guest:Yeah, yeah.

00:15:33Guest:I'm sorry it didn't work out for you.

00:15:35Guest:Now you're feeling it.

00:15:37Guest:Now, this is why I pull my ass out and put chairs on my head in the first seven minutes.

00:15:42Guest:You fucked a chair, too.

00:15:43Guest:I'll fuck mini chairs.

00:15:44Guest:Tracy Morgan gets him pregnant.

00:15:48Guest:He gets everything pregnant.

00:15:49Guest:He's got baby chairs.

00:15:50Marc:He's got a whole world of baby chairs around.

00:15:53Marc:He don't care.

00:15:54Marc:He's like, I got Walmart money.

00:15:57Marc:I got Target money.

00:15:59Guest:I swear, when that happened, I was like, fuck.

00:16:03Marc:Is it Target?

00:16:03Marc:I thought it was Walmart.

00:16:04Guest:I wonder how much Best Buy would pay.

00:16:08Marc:He's so fucking funny.

00:16:09Marc:Crazy.

00:16:09Marc:Yeah, he's definitely crazy.

00:16:13Marc:Sometimes you sit down with him and you're like, what's gonna happen?

00:16:16Guest:Bro, I did a movie with Tracy.

00:16:18Guest:Which one?

00:16:19Guest:Little Man.

00:16:20Guest:And I didn't know he got naked in every club.

00:16:24Guest:He always had his shirt off.

00:16:25Guest:He'd walk around, and he'd be like, I'm going to get you pregnant.

00:16:28Guest:I'm going to get you pregnant.

00:16:30Guest:And he'd start fights, and I'd just be like, Tracy, I just want to cage him because I was like, yo, we're producing a movie.

00:16:37Guest:We got to get you to work tomorrow.

00:16:40Marc:You can't reason with him, though.

00:16:41Guest:Fuck no.

00:16:42Guest:At the point, you just got to join him.

00:16:43Guest:I took my shirt off.

00:16:44Guest:I was like, let's go get people pregnant.

00:16:48Guest:But I grew up in New York, Manhattan, 16th Street and 9th Avenue.

00:16:50Guest:See, I didn't realize that.

00:16:51Guest:All you guys did?

00:16:52Guest:Yeah, right in 16th Street and 9th Avenue, across from Cat Steak.

00:16:56Guest:Back in the day, it was the ghetto.

00:16:57Guest:16th and 9th?

00:16:58Guest:16th and 9th.

00:16:59Guest:Now it's the meatpacking district.

00:17:01Marc:Right.

00:17:02Marc:Well, it was the meatpacking district.

00:17:04Marc:But it was the hood.

00:17:05Marc:But it wasn't cool.

00:17:06Marc:No, it wasn't cool.

00:17:07Marc:It was actually meat.

00:17:08Marc:Yeah, it was...

00:17:09Marc:It wasn't fancy clothes shopping and upscale eateries.

00:17:18Marc:It was just like guys moving carcasses around.

00:17:22Marc:Right?

00:17:22Marc:It was.

00:17:23Marc:With bloody smocks on.

00:17:25Guest:And it smelled like...

00:17:27Guest:Death.

00:17:30Guest:And that's where we grew up.

00:17:32Guest:But now it's fucked up.

00:17:33Guest:I don't have no street cred.

00:17:34Guest:I tell people, Nick, I'm from Chelsea.

00:17:37Guest:Like, motherfucker, the meat patch is just shut the fuck up.

00:17:39Marc:I went to a nice restaurant in Chelsea.

00:17:44Marc:How many are there?

00:17:46Guest:Ten.

00:17:47Guest:Do you know them all?

00:17:48Guest:My brothers?

00:17:49Guest:Yeah.

00:17:50Guest:Dwayne, Keenan, Kim, Deidre, Nadia, Devon, Elvira, Damon, Sean, Marlon.

00:17:57Guest:And Shante's Elvira's daughter?

00:17:59Guest:Shante is Elvira's daughter.

00:18:01Marc:Yeah, I interviewed her.

00:18:02Marc:She's funny.

00:18:03Guest:Oh, so you put Shante on before me?

00:18:05Marc:I did.

00:18:06Guest:Wow, that's fucking crazy.

00:18:07Marc:Well, I probably tried to get you, but you know, like... You put my knee... Actually, this was scheduled for three days ago, and you just made it.

00:18:17Guest:But I did that on purpose.

00:18:19Guest:You know, there's a great buddy comedy team budding here.

00:18:22Guest:You don't even see it, Mark.

00:18:24Guest:I know, I know.

00:18:25Guest:You refuse to acknowledge.

00:18:26Marc:I'm the straight guy.

00:18:27Marc:I'm the straight guy, yeah.

00:18:28Guest:No, you're the annoyed guy.

00:18:30Guest:Yeah, right, right.

00:18:31Guest:You're crazy.

00:18:32Guest:I'm Abbott.

00:18:32Guest:No, you're Abbott.

00:18:34Guest:I'm Costello.

00:18:34Guest:Yeah, that's right.

00:18:35Guest:This is Lauren Hardy.

00:18:36Guest:Yeah, who's up first?

00:18:38Marc:You're Hardy.

00:18:38Marc:I'm Laurel.

00:18:39Marc:Who's up first?

00:18:40Marc:Let's do it.

00:18:42Marc:You want me to get the script up?

00:18:46Marc:So when they went to LA, you were still in New York?

00:18:50Marc:So there's a big difference in age, right?

00:18:52Guest:15 years between me and Kenan, 13 between Damon and I, and only a year and a half between me and Sean.

00:19:00Guest:But Sean, you would think, was 25 years older than me for some reason.

00:19:04Guest:What's he doing?

00:19:05Guest:Just bullying me around.

00:19:06Guest:Really?

00:19:07Guest:Yeah.

00:19:07Guest:Still?

00:19:08Guest:Yeah.

00:19:08Guest:Just gonna do that for the rest of his life.

00:19:10Guest:No matter what happens, he always knows he can punch me in the chest.

00:19:13Guest:And I stood up for myself one day, and I was like, look, enough of this shit.

00:19:17Guest:You can't punk me in front of my son.

00:19:19Guest:He was like, go get me some water.

00:19:22Guest:Nigga, I got my son.

00:19:23Guest:You can't punk me.

00:19:24Guest:Do it before I punch you in the chest.

00:19:26Guest:And at a point, I told him I can't disappoint my son because I go, hey, clean your room.

00:19:31Guest:And he's like, yo, shut up before I get Uncle Sean to punch you in your chest.

00:19:35Guest:I'm like, you're emasculating me in front of my fucking kids.

00:19:38Guest:So, I mean, I love, love, love my son.

00:19:40Guest:Where was that, like a couple weeks ago or...

00:19:42Guest:No, it was about two years ago.

00:19:45Guest:He still bullies me, and it's okay.

00:19:47Guest:But I guess that's just brother shit, right?

00:19:48Guest:I have an inherent fear.

00:19:50Guest:I actually got up in weight one day, one year, I did G.I.

00:19:53Guest:Joe.

00:19:54Guest:And I put on, I went from 170 pounds to 225 pounds.

00:19:58Guest:Muscle?

00:19:58Guest:Uh-huh.

00:19:59Marc:Wow.

00:20:00Guest:And I dared Sean to fuck with me.

00:20:03Marc:Really?

00:20:04Guest:And he was like, yo, you look good.

00:20:05Guest:He would compliment me.

00:20:06Guest:You look great.

00:20:07Guest:Abs and nice.

00:20:09Guest:Yo, man, great size for you.

00:20:11Guest:And he waited me out.

00:20:13Guest:Because he knew that I was only going to carry that weight the duration of the film.

00:20:18Guest:And my next movie was like Requiem for Dream.

00:20:21Guest:So I had to lose all this weight and get small again.

00:20:24Guest:And he started bullying me again.

00:20:30Guest:He waited though.

00:20:31Marc:He waited me out.

00:20:32Marc:So are you, you're the youngest?

00:20:34Marc:I'm the baby.

00:20:36Marc:Six out of 10.

00:20:38Marc:And you're like, why so many kids?

00:20:42Guest:I don't fucking know.

00:20:43Guest:Was it a religious thing?

00:20:44Guest:No TV.

00:20:45Guest:No, my dad's Joe Witness and my mom is Baptist.

00:20:49Guest:So I don't know.

00:20:50Guest:And they couldn't afford the kids.

00:20:51Guest:It's one thing.

00:20:53Guest:It's like, you niggas couldn't afford it.

00:20:55Guest:10 kids.

00:20:56Guest:If you had two, they would have struggled too.

00:20:59Guest:But 10?

00:21:00Guest:I'm surprised we're alive.

00:21:02Guest:We should have ate each other like an airplane that crashed in the fucking mountains.

00:21:09Guest:What did he do?

00:21:10Marc:Your dad.

00:21:11Guest:He sold.

00:21:13Guest:He quit nice paying jobs that had benefits because he used to work at Drake's Cake.

00:21:19Guest:Yeah.

00:21:20Guest:And he worked at Guinness Stout.

00:21:23Guest:Yeah.

00:21:23Guest:And he was like a rep.

00:21:25Guest:He was making money.

00:21:26Guest:He was an executive.

00:21:27Guest:Right.

00:21:28Guest:And he quit because they asked him to go entertain and take some clients to a strip club.

00:21:36Marc:Yeah.

00:21:36Guest:And my dad being religious was like, nah, I'm not doing that.

00:21:39Marc:Yeah, and that was it?

00:21:41Guest:My mother was like, Nick, if you don't take these motherfuckers, them niggas to this strip club and get that money.

00:21:47Guest:Why didn't she just send one of you to take them?

00:21:50Ha ha!

00:21:52Guest:I would have too.

00:21:53Guest:I was too young to get in at the time.

00:21:56Guest:He quit and he started his own business.

00:22:00Guest:He started selling sunglasses and condoms and you know the Venus and Serena beads?

00:22:06Guest:Yeah.

00:22:07Guest:He sold beads.

00:22:08Guest:He would buy them wholesale, put them on a card and sell them to all the bodegas.

00:22:12Guest:Yeah.

00:22:13Guest:Sunglasses.

00:22:14Guest:So he was hustling.

00:22:15Guest:Hustling.

00:22:15Guest:My mother called him Benny the bead man.

00:22:18Marc:Did they stay together?

00:22:19Marc:Yeah.

00:22:20Marc:Yeah, that's great.

00:22:22Guest:Here's the beauty.

00:22:22Guest:They stayed together 63 years.

00:22:27Guest:My mother, and they argued every fucking day, multiple times.

00:22:29Guest:Yeah.

00:22:30Guest:Sometimes my mother did a marathon where she cursed them out for 24 hours straight.

00:22:34Guest:And so 63 years of marriage.

00:22:37Guest:My mother calls me up one day.

00:22:38Guest:She goes, baby boy, you sitting down?

00:22:40Guest:Yeah.

00:22:40Guest:I said, yeah.

00:22:41Guest:She goes, I got some terrible news for you.

00:22:44Guest:I said, what, ma?

00:22:44Guest:She said, I'm divorcing your father.

00:22:48Yeah.

00:22:48Guest:I said, bitch, about time.

00:22:51Guest:You should have did this so many years ago.

00:22:53Guest:Like, literally.

00:22:54Guest:I'm like, why did you wait until 63 years?

00:22:58Guest:I'm like, you only got like, she was 80 at the time.

00:23:01Guest:I'm like, you got two years left, Ma.

00:23:03Guest:She's like, I can't wait it out.

00:23:05Guest:I don't want that nigga to die and leave me with his bad credit.

00:23:09Guest:Is that what it was?

00:23:12Guest:Yeah.

00:23:12Guest:Are they around either?

00:23:14Guest:No, my mom passed.

00:23:16Guest:Right after we did Respect, my mom passed.

00:23:18Guest:Oh, really?

00:23:18Guest:I'm sorry, man.

00:23:19Marc:Was she sick?

00:23:21Guest:Yeah, my mom had... Well, she's sick.

00:23:23Guest:My mom had everything.

00:23:24Guest:My mom had diabetes.

00:23:27Guest:High blood pressure, no kidney, cancer.

00:23:31Guest:At a point, God was just like, you know what?

00:23:33Guest:I'm going to do this shit myself.

00:23:35Guest:He came down and just snuffed out.

00:23:38Guest:It was hard.

00:23:39Guest:That's one of the reasons why I started doing stand-up again.

00:23:41Guest:She was 84.

00:23:43Guest:three when she passed and i was born on my mom's birthday yeah so we used to share birthdays together yeah and there was always a big celebration yeah and now she's not here it's the loneliest fucking day really i haven't i haven't smiled on a birthday yet i cry do you i have two cakes one with her name on it it's so sad i fuck yeah

00:24:08Guest:Yeah, I'm dead serious.

00:24:10Guest:I went to a strip club in Miami for my birthday this year.

00:24:14Marc:Did they bring your mom's cake out at the strip club?

00:24:18Guest:No.

00:24:20Guest:How sad would that have been?

00:24:21Guest:But I had all this money, and I was giving it to the dancers, and I was just like, I was fucking miserable.

00:24:28Guest:I had all these beautiful women around me.

00:24:30Guest:with their vaginas out.

00:24:32Guest:Vaginas are out too?

00:24:33Guest:Yeah.

00:24:34Guest:It was at 11.

00:24:35Guest:And the only vagina I cared about was the one that I came out of.

00:24:40Guest:And so I left.

00:24:41Guest:Is this for the next special?

00:24:45Guest:No, but let me write it down.

00:24:47Guest:Is this your opening bit?

00:24:48Guest:Did it make you uncomfortable?

00:24:48Guest:No, I'm all right.

00:24:50Guest:Oh, fuck.

00:24:51Guest:Then it's not going to work.

00:24:52Marc:No, no.

00:24:52Marc:I like that you have no boundaries in talking about your children's genitalia or your genitalia.

00:24:59Marc:I don't mind.

00:24:59Marc:I like it.

00:25:00Marc:It's relieving.

00:25:01Marc:You know what it is?

00:25:02Guest:For me, it is relieving.

00:25:05Guest:I like taking-

00:25:07Guest:me and making fun of me and the things around me because that gives me a smile.

00:25:13Guest:I learned, like, talking about the world is fine, but I'd rather talk about my damage and give myself some kind of therapy or not and just have fun.

00:25:22Marc:You know what I liked a lot?

00:25:24Marc:The getting robbed bit by fans.

00:25:26Guest:Oh, you know what it is?

00:25:28Marc:Yeah, the first time you do that, it's like... That was very funny to me.

00:25:35Marc:The guys are like, you're the game forward!

00:25:39Marc:Nah.

00:25:42Guest:I like his shit, but him off niggas be holding me right now.

00:25:46Guest:Yeah, you know what it is.

00:25:47Marc:So you actually like some of it, Mark.

00:25:49Marc:Oh, I like you.

00:25:49Marc:I like you.

00:25:50Marc:I thought it was funny.

00:25:51Marc:Thank you, man.

00:25:51Marc:I appreciate that.

00:25:52Marc:Yeah, I just, I'm busting your balls.

00:25:54Guest:No, it's only number two.

00:25:56Guest:I'm still really young in the... How old are you?

00:26:01Guest:In the stand-up game.

00:26:02Guest:I only been doing stand-up 10 years.

00:26:03Guest:Is that true?

00:26:04Guest:Mm-hmm.

00:26:05Guest:I started when I was 38.

00:26:06Oh.

00:26:06Marc:Why do I feel like I saw the two of you's doing it when you were younger?

00:26:10Marc:I dabbled in it when I was younger.

00:26:12Marc:With him, right?

00:26:13Marc:With Sean?

00:26:13Guest:With Sean.

00:26:14Guest:Sean stayed consistent.

00:26:16Guest:Oh, okay.

00:26:17Guest:I would go to the comic books.

00:26:18Guest:You were like the actor.

00:26:19Guest:I was the actor.

00:26:20Marc:And now you're like, I can get in on this.

00:26:22Marc:They've lowered the bar.

00:26:24Marc:Any weigh-ins can do this now.

00:26:29Marc:I just got to put some shit together.

00:26:31Marc:It doesn't fucking matter.

00:26:36Marc:You're a dick.

00:26:39Marc:Oh, my God.

00:26:40Marc:You're such an asshole.

00:26:42Marc:But wait, man.

00:26:43Marc:So, but I saw you.

00:26:45Marc:Where did I see?

00:26:45Guest:By the way, you're getting really good.

00:26:47Guest:They're talking really well about you in respect.

00:26:50Marc:Are they?

00:26:51Marc:Mm-hmm.

00:26:51Marc:I feel like you're probably thinking, like, you know, I got a shot at the statue, right?

00:26:56Yeah.

00:26:56Guest:No.

00:26:58Guest:I don't think ... I've been in this industry for 30 years of my life.

00:27:03Marc:Are you surprised you haven't won an Oscar for one of the scary movies?

00:27:05Guest:I get mad ... Nigga, this is how bad it is.

00:27:08Guest:I can't even win a fucking Razzie.

00:27:10Guest:You're telling me.

00:27:11Guest:I get nominated so many times.

00:27:13Guest:Can you fucking just give me one?

00:27:15Guest:Just to win anything.

00:27:16Guest:I get nothing.

00:27:17Guest:I haven't got an Emmy nod.

00:27:19Guest:I have over 150 episodes of television.

00:27:22Guest:I got not one ...

00:27:23Guest:Emmy nod.

00:27:24Guest:Nothing for a Requiem?

00:27:25Guest:Nothing.

00:27:28Guest:Here's the one award I got.

00:27:31Guest:Best Weed Head from High Times Magazine for Scary Movie and Don't Be a Menace.

00:27:37Marc:That's not nothing.

00:27:38Marc:I mean- It's no Oscar.

00:27:43Marc:But I think you were overlooked for the White Girls movie.

00:27:46Marc:I really think that is.

00:27:47Guest:I will say this.

00:27:48Guest:Yes.

00:27:48Guest:Okay.

00:27:49Guest:People sleep on how much work something like that is.

00:27:53Guest:I don't know.

00:27:53Guest:Do they?

00:27:54Guest:You made money?

00:27:55Marc:I mean, what do you mean they sleep on it?

00:27:56Guest:Do you know what work that was?

00:27:58Marc:I can't imagine to put that fucking makeup on.

00:28:00Guest:Seven hours of makeup, then we work 14 hours.

00:28:03Guest:No, it's crazy.

00:28:04Guest:That's a 21-hour day.

00:28:06Guest:Then it takes an hour to take the makeup off.

00:28:08Guest:So we've got to perform on two hours sleep for 65 days.

00:28:12Guest:It's fucking impossible.

00:28:13Guest:But it did well, right?

00:28:15Guest:Killed.

00:28:16Marc:Yeah.

00:28:16Marc:So, I mean, no one sleeps on it.

00:28:18Marc:They're just not going to give you the big awards.

00:28:21Guest:We got nominated for five Razzies and didn't win.

00:28:26Guest:Sad.

00:28:26Marc:Yeah.

00:28:27Marc:No, but I thought that this movie... I thought you were great in it.

00:28:31Marc:In respect.

00:28:34Marc:Even the scenes we did and then I saw the movie.

00:28:37Marc:And I think that that character...

00:28:39Marc:The guy who doesn't know he's like a clown in a way.

00:28:44Marc:Yeah.

00:28:44Marc:You know, like he's sort of got these anger and jealousy problems.

00:28:48Marc:But it's not that he's a comic character, but he's ridiculous.

00:28:52Guest:Yeah.

00:28:53Marc:Right?

00:28:53Guest:Yeah.

00:28:54Guest:It's kind of sad.

00:28:56Guest:He thinks he's in power and control when really he's not.

00:29:00Guest:And all he does is really he's a catalyst.

00:29:04Guest:He helps her find how powerful she is because she relinquished power and gave it to him.

00:29:09Guest:Yes.

00:29:09Guest:But empowerment, and that's what that movie is really about, is about female empowerment.

00:29:14Guest:She takes the power from him and empowers herself, and you see she's the queen.

00:29:19Marc:Right.

00:29:19Marc:Well, what's interesting, that whole thing, is that, like, how much did you study him?

00:29:23Guest:I mean, they don't... Ted, right?

00:29:25Guest:Yeah.

00:29:26Guest:Ted's not Aretha.

00:29:28Guest:No, but, like, there was some footage, right?

00:29:29Guest:It was like a minute and a half where you could kind of study the stamina and how he spoke.

00:29:35Guest:But I didn't get much.

00:29:36Guest:The great part was, and I didn't get a lot of text, I got what was in the script.

00:29:41Guest:And I was able to build a character based on what people were saying about him based on the situation.

00:29:47Guest:So I kind of made an original kind of piece and I could give him layers and texture.

00:29:51Guest:And instead of playing him as an abusive man, I just played him as an insecure dude.

00:29:58Guest:I mean, a guy would, you know, damage people, damage people.

00:30:02Guest:You have to be in a really bad place to hit a woman.

00:30:05Guest:You know what I mean?

00:30:06Guest:I was taught, walk away no matter what, don't engage.

00:30:09Guest:And, you know, that takes a certain security as a man.

00:30:12Guest:An insecure man lays his hands on women and thinks that's power.

00:30:16Guest:It's not.

00:30:16Guest:So he had to be really damaged.

00:30:18Guest:So that's what I built for him.

00:30:20Marc:You focused on that?

00:30:21Guest:Yeah.

00:30:22Marc:Yeah.

00:30:23Marc:Well, I mean, it's sort of interesting that the way Jennifer was playing those scenes when she was still with you, it's almost like she's in a trance because she, you know, she's just beholden to whatever.

00:30:34Guest:She's got no power.

00:30:35Marc:Yeah.

00:30:36Marc:But like, you know, you know that I knew that from watching that old footage of Aretha that that's what Jennifer was doing.

00:30:42Marc:Right.

00:30:42Marc:You know, just flatline.

00:30:43Guest:And how amazing is she in a movie?

00:30:44Guest:It's great.

00:30:45Guest:It's great.

00:30:46Guest:There was days of people like, what are you doing today?

00:30:50Guest:I'm going to work to watch Jennifer win a couple Oscars.

00:30:53Guest:When she sang, man.

00:30:54Guest:When she sang, man.

00:30:57Guest:People don't understand.

00:30:57Guest:That was live.

00:30:59Guest:It was crazy.

00:30:59Guest:That was live.

00:31:00Guest:Think about if all day long, you singing all day long, she never got hoarse, never asked for lemon water or tea.

00:31:08Guest:This woman is a machine.

00:31:10Guest:I was just like, yo...

00:31:12Guest:There were scenes we'd drop our character like, oh, did you hear that note?

00:31:16Guest:She's amazing, man.

00:31:17Guest:She's amazing.

00:31:19Guest:By the way, you're the best.

00:31:21Guest:I love you.

00:31:21Guest:If you ever get a chance, please work with Mark.

00:31:25Guest:We had some good times.

00:31:27Guest:You're crazy.

00:31:29Guest:How about the lunch?

00:31:32Guest:So we're at lunch and we're all eating together.

00:31:40Guest:Mark said, we're laughing and talking shit like Mark does.

00:31:47Guest:And a guy walks over to the table and he starts talking.

00:31:51Guest:And Mark turns around and he goes,

00:31:54Guest:Who the fuck are you?

00:31:56Guest:And he's like, I'm the producer of the movie.

00:31:59Guest:Oh, yeah?

00:32:00Guest:What's your name?

00:32:03Guest:And what kind of producer are you?

00:32:04Guest:Story?

00:32:06Guest:What kind?

00:32:06Guest:The money guy?

00:32:07Guest:He goes, kind of.

00:32:09Guest:I'm the head of the studio.

00:32:10Guest:And Mark goes, oh, you are?

00:32:14Guest:And he doubles down like, yeah, I bet you are.

00:32:17Guest:Good job you're doing.

00:32:19Guest:And he turns to me and goes, didn't this guy get canned this morning?

00:32:23Guest:He did.

00:32:25Guest:He did.

00:32:28Guest:You're the worst.

00:32:29Guest:That was terrible.

00:32:30Marc:You're the worst.

00:32:30Marc:You're crazy.

00:32:32Marc:But I didn't know.

00:32:33Marc:I had to stay in it.

00:32:34Marc:I had to stay in it.

00:32:35Guest:You did.

00:32:36Guest:I was just like, pull out of it.

00:32:37Guest:Pull out.

00:32:38Guest:It's like that uncomfortableness when you're watching me on my special.

00:32:41Guest:You know what it is.

00:32:43Guest:You know what it is.

00:32:44Marc:He was taking it, though, man.

00:32:46Marc:He was taking it.

00:32:47Marc:He knew he was finished.

00:32:49Marc:He knew he was finished, Marlon.

00:32:51Marc:There was nothing he could do.

00:32:52Marc:But you kept doubling down.

00:32:54Guest:I know, but he'll come back in another position.

00:32:56Guest:Who the fuck are you?

00:32:59Guest:Like, who told you to sit at our table and give a beer?

00:33:03Guest:I was being funny about it.

00:33:04Marc:I know.

00:33:06Marc:I forgot about that.

00:33:07Guest:But you wouldn't back down.

00:33:09Guest:You was like, oh, yeah?

00:33:10Guest:I had a safe face in the studio.

00:33:12Guest:Like, what kind of producer are you?

00:33:15Marc:But I just thought I'd stay in the tone, you know?

00:33:19Guest:Yo, you did shit on the set.

00:33:21Marc:Oh, God.

00:33:22Marc:Thank God he had been fired.

00:33:25Marc:What was he going to do, though?

00:33:26Marc:What are they going to do?

00:33:28Oh.

00:33:28Marc:It's not the fucking 70s.

00:33:30Marc:He's like, I want that Jew off of this set.

00:33:33Marc:But he's playing the main Jew.

00:33:34Marc:I don't give a shit.

00:33:35Marc:We'll get another Jew.

00:33:41Guest:Oh, my God.

00:33:42Marc:We had some laughs, man.

00:33:44Guest:That one time.

00:33:46Marc:Watching the guy.

00:33:47Marc:I hate you.

00:33:48Guest:Doing the business.

00:33:49Marc:Doing the business.

00:33:51Marc:It wasn't really mean, but we were getting a kick out of it.

00:33:56Guest:All right, so we're on set.

00:33:58Marc:No, no, yeah.

00:33:59Guest:And we're filming a scene in the movie.

00:34:02Marc:Yeah.

00:34:03Guest:And there's a guy who has a role.

00:34:05Guest:Yeah.

00:34:06Marc:He's not talking, though.

00:34:07Marc:He's not talking.

00:34:08Marc:But he's an important character.

00:34:11Marc:He's an engineer.

00:34:13Guest:Right.

00:34:13Guest:And so he's doing his stuff, and it is before his take.

00:34:20Guest:Now he's rehearsing.

00:34:21Guest:The camera's on other people.

00:34:23Guest:But this guy is doing all kind of...

00:34:26Guest:stuff.

00:34:27Marc:He's like, you know... Pencils.

00:34:28Guest:Pencil.

00:34:29Guest:Writing things.

00:34:29Guest:Writing, changing notes and walking over to the band members and telling them what key to play in.

00:34:38Guest:He grabs the guy's guitar and plucks it a couple tunes his guitar.

00:34:42Guest:Yeah, he's got a lot of business.

00:34:44Guest:Mark turns over to me and he goes, this guy got a lot of business, huh?

00:34:55Guest:And he says this to me while we're filming.

00:34:57Guest:And I look over and I'm watching this guy.

00:35:03Guest:And for the rest of the day, I can't unsee it.

00:35:07Guest:I fucking can't unsee it.

00:35:10Guest:Because then it seems like he gets more bits.

00:35:16Marc:He's got to make it interesting.

00:35:17Marc:I mean, I understand it.

00:35:19Marc:You know what's really weird about that dude?

00:35:21Marc:Is I watched some of the video, some of the old footage of that guy he's playing.

00:35:27Marc:Well, no, but he, like when he's conducting, you remember?

00:35:30Marc:I'm like, oh my God, he's doing the guy.

00:35:32Marc:So like the only people that are going to notice that is going to be like that guy's daughter.

00:35:36Marc:So like, oh, he got, that's the way.

00:35:38Guest:The essence of that.

00:35:39Marc:Exactly.

00:35:40Marc:With the hip sway.

00:35:42Oh.

00:35:42Marc:He did good.

00:35:43Marc:He did good.

00:35:43Guest:Everybody did good.

00:35:45Guest:That was the level of commitment on that set.

00:35:47Guest:Everybody was committed.

00:35:48Guest:The best choice I ever met.

00:35:49Guest:He was just there to clown on everybody.

00:35:52Guest:You're the worst.

00:35:53Marc:We just were having some laughs.

00:35:55Guest:You're crazy.

00:35:56Guest:I can't do serious scenes and you tell me stuff like, this guy got a lot of business.

00:36:02Guest:Look how much business he got.

00:36:04Guest:Boy, is he busy.

00:36:06Marc:And you kept saying it.

00:36:08Marc:It could have been mean, but I don't think it was.

00:36:12Marc:If he heard it, it would have been mean.

00:36:15Marc:The best choice that I made when I watched this in the movie, you remember when you get in my face and I don't fucking move.

00:36:21Marc:That was the best choice I made.

00:36:22Marc:Because I'm thinking about that.

00:36:23Marc:If that were Mark, I would have been like, what's up, man?

00:36:27Marc:Drop back.

00:36:28Marc:But Jerry, you just stood right there.

00:36:29Marc:You come right up into my face.

00:36:31Marc:I'm like, what is it?

00:36:32Marc:You didn't flinch.

00:36:33Marc:You didn't blink.

00:36:34Marc:Nothing.

00:36:35Marc:You just like nothing.

00:36:36Marc:Nothing.

00:36:36Guest:Because I think your character knew that this shit was temporary.

00:36:40Guest:Yeah.

00:36:40Guest:And you was just so frustrated.

00:36:41Guest:And also that you were full of shit.

00:36:43Guest:Yeah.

00:36:43Guest:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:36:44Guest:Can I say shit?

00:36:45Guest:Sure.

00:36:45Guest:Okay.

00:36:46Guest:Yeah, I was full of shit.

00:36:47Guest:And he was insecure.

00:36:48Guest:And you're like, all right, whatever, Aretha.

00:36:50Guest:Yeah, yeah.

00:36:50Guest:I got to deal with this fucking guy.

00:36:51Marc:Exactly.

00:36:52Marc:Yeah, yeah.

00:36:52Guest:Okay.

00:36:53Guest:Yeah.

00:36:53Marc:Yeah, it was exciting, man.

00:36:55Marc:It looks so fucking good, the movie.

00:36:56Guest:Yeah, Liesl's amazing.

00:36:58Guest:Jesus.

00:36:59Guest:Everybody, all departments.

00:37:01Guest:I've never worked on a movie where every department showed up and gave their aid.

00:37:06Guest:That's why I can't be mad at the guy, the conductor or the engineer that had all the business.

00:37:13Guest:He's great.

00:37:13Guest:Because we all had...

00:37:15Marc:Business.

00:37:16Marc:Business.

00:37:16Marc:Well, that's the thing is like, you know, I was just being funny because it's funny on the set, but like in order to make, and that guy's a real actor, in order to make acting interesting and not just sort of like, because it's a lot of waiting around, right?

00:37:27Marc:And it's a lot of repetition.

00:37:28Marc:Yeah.

00:37:29Marc:So like, and I'm just learning this shit, like in order to make it interesting, you've got to immerse yourself in it or else it's just going to be like, it's going to feel like a tedious waste of time.

00:37:39Marc:Right.

00:37:39Marc:I mean, you must have done roles in your life where you're like, oh my God.

00:37:42Yeah.

00:37:43Guest:No, because I think I've always given myself a story.

00:37:48Guest:It's what Liesl used to always tell us.

00:37:50Guest:Oh, really?

00:37:50Guest:You have to give your character a story.

00:37:52Guest:What's your story in this scene?

00:37:54Guest:Because everybody has a function in the scene.

00:37:56Guest:She didn't tell me that.

00:37:58Guest:When did you get the lesson?

00:38:00Guest:How come I didn't get the lesson?

00:38:01Guest:You were too busy watching the guy's business.

00:38:05Marc:She just told me to just do the business I'm doing.

00:38:08Marc:I got some good business going.

00:38:10Guest:No, then you started doing business.

00:38:12Guest:You would turn to me and go, hey, mom, look, I'm doing business.

00:38:17Guest:And you started turning knobs and shits.

00:38:20Guest:It reminded me that I need to get my pencil.

00:38:24Guest:You drank, you dropping a pencil.

00:38:26Guest:You drank some water.

00:38:28Guest:No, you started doing that.

00:38:30Guest:And then I started looking at every time I would look at you and you was doing business, I would laugh because I look over at him and he's doing business.

00:38:39Marc:Business on both sides.

00:38:40Marc:We'll have business.

00:38:41Marc:Tell me about this story, though.

00:38:42Marc:I want to learn.

00:38:43Guest:Oh, you gotta give yourself a character's story.

00:38:45Marc:In every scene.

00:38:46Guest:Yeah, what's your character going through?

00:38:48Guest:Even if you don't have lines, right?

00:38:49Guest:The scene that the guy had the business.

00:38:51Guest:I had a story.

00:38:53Guest:When she was singing, what was she singing about?

00:38:55Guest:I was feeling powerless.

00:38:57Guest:I was watching her and her family bond again.

00:39:00Guest:Ted was watching the destruction of his empire and his control on Aretha.

00:39:05Guest:And so those words was resonating to him, and that's why when he jumped back in to take center stage again, he's a clown.

00:39:12Guest:Right.

00:39:12Guest:And he's coming from an insecure place.

00:39:14Guest:And when the camera comes to him, that's all that's going on in my mind.

00:39:19Guest:Because the actors, when they come in for that close-up, they're looking into your soul.

00:39:24Guest:So they need to see that story, that insecurity.

00:39:27Guest:It informs your face, your brows.

00:39:31Guest:You'd be surprised when you give yourself the story, how it informs the audience of what your character's going through.

00:39:39Marc:And you always did this?

00:39:40Marc:Or did you not call it that?

00:39:41Guest:I didn't call it that, but I've always done it.

00:39:44Guest:But when Liesl said, what's your story?

00:39:47Guest:And every night I would go home and if I had to see him with that lines or not, I came in with a story.

00:39:53Guest:And then she would be like, no, that's the wrong story you're telling.

00:39:57Guest:This is your story.

00:39:58Guest:Really?

00:39:58Marc:Yeah.

00:39:59Marc:Sometimes.

00:39:59Marc:So you had that thing with her?

00:40:01Marc:What would she tell you?

00:40:03Marc:Just go, Mark, be Mark.

00:40:06Marc:She's like, you're doing great.

00:40:07Marc:I'm like, do you want anything?

00:40:08Marc:She's like, no, it's great.

00:40:09Marc:But that's what's great about her.

00:40:10Guest:You didn't need it, right?

00:40:11Guest:Yeah.

00:40:13Guest:You had a tough demeanor.

00:40:16Guest:You believed in the girl.

00:40:18Guest:You was spot on with your character.

00:40:21Guest:And I think...

00:40:24Guest:For me, it was a lot more complicated.

00:40:27Guest:You know what I mean?

00:40:28Guest:The character, he was abusive.

00:40:30Guest:Why was he abusive?

00:40:31Guest:He was married, but he was a player.

00:40:33Guest:There was a lot of, like, conflicting things going on.

00:40:35Marc:And the whole history with that guy.

00:40:36Guest:Yeah.

00:40:37Marc:From when she was younger.

00:40:38Marc:He was around.

00:40:39Guest:Yeah.

00:40:40Marc:Well, you know who I heard from?

00:40:42Marc:David Hood, the guy who played bass in the real Muscle Shoals band.

00:40:47Marc:I know his son, Patterson, who's in a band called Drive-By Truckers and does solo work.

00:40:51Marc:But he texted me yesterday and said that David went to the premiere of the movie, his dad, and said that I nailed it.

00:41:00Marc:That Jerry was like a father to his father.

00:41:03Marc:And I'm like, that's pretty good.

00:41:04Marc:Did you look at footage?

00:41:06Marc:I looked at a... Yeah, no, I read his autobiography.

00:41:10Marc:Okay.

00:41:11Marc:And there was a little bit of footage, not a lot, but there was a weird interview on YouTube of him as an old man, and then there was some of the... In that chunk of... From that TV show that they depicted in the movie, there's stuff from that of him talking.

00:41:25Guest:That's beautiful, man.

00:41:26Guest:I didn't get... I wish I had that...

00:41:28Marc:Yeah, no, no.

00:41:29Guest:Ted ain't had no book, and everybody call to talk about Ted, you get, I don't want to talk about that nigga.

00:41:35Marc:Really?

00:41:36Guest:So you were in touch with family and shit?

00:41:38Guest:I tried, and Ned's like, hmm.

00:41:44Guest:He's dead though, right, that guy?

00:41:45Guest:No, he's still alive.

00:41:46Guest:Is he?

00:41:46Guest:Yeah, I tried to reach out.

00:41:47Guest:I called Glenn Turman.

00:41:49Guest:And, you know, to get some information, because Glenn went to Performer Arts High School.

00:41:54Guest:I've known Glenn Turman.

00:41:56Guest:We worked together on Sex Supplies.

00:41:58Guest:I love Glenn.

00:41:59Guest:And so I called him up.

00:42:00Guest:I was like, hey, Glenn, do you know anything about Ted White?

00:42:03Guest:He goes, oh, well, you know, I really don't know, because me and Ree.

00:42:06Guest:And he started going, me and Ree, we are the way we were.

00:42:09Guest:And hey, nigga, I ain't calling about y'all relationship.

00:42:12Guest:I need to know about the nigga before you.

00:42:14Guest:Oh, I don't know shit about him.

00:42:16Guest:So am I in the movie?

00:42:18Guest:No, you were actually a good nigga in her life, so you didn't make the movie.

00:42:23Guest:Oh, I guess no news is good news.

00:42:27Guest:Glenn Turman, wonderful actor.

00:42:29Guest:Wonderful actor.

00:42:30Marc:Jehovah Witnesses.

00:42:31Marc:Were you brought up Jehovah Witnesses?

00:42:33Marc:Yeah, my dad's your witness.

00:42:34Marc:So you're brought up with it?

00:42:36Marc:My father... I get it.

00:42:38Marc:But did he make you do it?

00:42:39Guest:My mama didn't play that shit.

00:42:41Guest:Right, so it wasn't... My mom was like, mm-mm.

00:42:43Guest:My father used to have to sneak Bible studies when my mom was out.

00:42:47Guest:He'd be like, quick, Corinthians, love is... Okay, bye, mom's coming.

00:42:52Guest:What you doing?

00:42:53Marc:I just watch some TV my father never my mother didn't play that cuz my dad Could you have been creative if like if you had to in Jehovah Witnesses very restrictive?

00:43:02Guest:Yeah, no dancing my mother my mother was like, you know my put this way my They let you dance.

00:43:08Guest:It's not a cult They let you dance, but they just don't celebrate Christmas Okay, and and but my mom okay put this way my dad didn't want me to go to performing arts high school

00:43:17Guest:I auditioned, my dad said, no, you can't go.

00:43:21Guest:And I was like, why?

00:43:23Guest:He goes, because you gotta wear tights and there's a lot of kids there.

00:43:28Guest:And they're kind of a little weird with homosexuality.

00:43:32Guest:And so he was afraid that

00:43:34Guest:you know, be exposed to that, being at that school.

00:43:38Guest:And he said he didn't want me to go.

00:43:40Marc:He was afraid of you turning gay at the performance art high school.

00:43:45Guest:And my brother, Keenan, was 260 pounds of muscle, and he said, you're not going to do that to my little brother's dreams.

00:43:53Guest:He's going to go on to that audition, and if he gets into school, he's going to go.

00:43:58Guest:And if not, you're going to talk to me.

00:44:01Guest:And my dad was like...

00:44:03Guest:All right, you can go to school, but you can't wear tights.

00:44:05Guest:And so I was the only kid in performing arts high school in sweatpants when everybody else was in tights.

00:44:11Guest:I made a deal with my teacher, Mr. Tritler, that I cried to him.

00:44:16Guest:He said, I'll tell you what, Marlon.

00:44:18Guest:If you, in fact, come to this school and you do great things, I will let you wear sweatpants.

00:44:25Guest:And, you know, that's why I'm working as hard as I am.

00:44:29Guest:And one day when I get something beside a Razzie, I'm going to thank Mr. Treitler for allowing me to come to school without tights.

00:44:38Marc:It's funny because on this new special, you're kind of wearing tights.

00:44:42Guest:That's a fuck you to my dad.

00:44:45Guest:Don't tell him.

00:44:46Guest:Actually, it's just tight leather pants.

00:44:49Guest:Yeah, I know.

00:44:50Guest:It is kind of tight.

00:44:55Marc:It's not that big of a deal.

00:44:56Marc:Finally, you're wearing tights.

00:44:57Marc:Finally.

00:44:59Marc:You finally feel free to wear the tights.

00:45:02Marc:At 49.

00:45:03Marc:Yeah.

00:45:04Marc:But at that point, was Kenan still in New York?

00:45:08Marc:So you knew him when he was doing the improv and shit?

00:45:10Marc:Well, I mean, he's your brother.

00:45:11Marc:Did I know Kenan?

00:45:13Marc:But you remember?

00:45:15Guest:Kenan doing improv?

00:45:17Guest:The old improv.

00:45:18Guest:Yeah, on Hell's Kitchen.

00:45:19Guest:Him and Damon.

00:45:20Guest:I was too young to go to that.

00:45:22Guest:But once they moved to California, I was about...

00:45:24Marc:You know, Silver's still alive.

00:45:26Marc:Really?

00:45:27Marc:Silver Friedman.

00:45:28Marc:She lives with Zoe in the back house.

00:45:30Marc:Really?

00:45:31Marc:Yeah.

00:45:31Marc:Crazy.

00:45:31Guest:And they still get 5% on the improv.

00:45:34Marc:Every set I do.

00:45:35Guest:No, they get 5% on improv Brea and Irvine.

00:45:39Marc:But that's Bud, not her.

00:45:40Marc:Oh, it's not.

00:45:41Marc:They're not together.

00:45:42Marc:Weren't they married?

00:45:43Marc:They were, but I think the deal in the divorce was Bud got everything west of 46th Street.

00:45:50Marc:Yeah.

00:45:50Marc:Silver could have that block, that improv, and he got everything out.

00:46:00Guest:What's crazy is there is no east and west on 46th Street.

00:46:06Guest:What does that run?

00:46:06Guest:North and south?

00:46:07Guest:North and south, yeah.

00:46:09Guest:Is that true?

00:46:09Guest:It works.

00:46:10Guest:It's funny.

00:46:11Guest:It's actually funnier.

00:46:12Marc:No, I think that 46th goes east and west.

00:46:15Marc:Don't the avenues go up and down north and south?

00:46:18Marc:Yeah, but you said east of 46th.

00:46:19Marc:Oh, yeah, right, so it keeps going.

00:46:20Marc:Right, so it would be east.

00:46:23Marc:East of 9th Avenue.

00:46:24Marc:West of 9th Avenue, right.

00:46:26Marc:Got it, yeah, yeah.

00:46:27Marc:It was right there, 9th and 46th.

00:46:29Marc:That was where it was.

00:46:30Guest:That's where it was?

00:46:30Marc:Pretty much, right?

00:46:31Guest:I went to performance high school right on 66th and 11th.

00:46:35Marc:But you couldn't go see Damien at the Improv or Keenan?

00:46:39Guest:Not back then.

00:46:40Guest:But when they came to California, I used to come.

00:46:43Guest:I was eight years old.

00:46:44Guest:Yeah.

00:46:44Guest:And I actually went on stage with Robert Townsend, me, Sean, and my nephew Damien one Christmas.

00:46:52Guest:Yeah.

00:46:52Guest:And Robert was telling us Christmas.

00:46:54Guest:He did like this Christmas time Christmas.

00:46:56Guest:I remember him, man, dude.

00:46:56Guest:He was a really great comedian, really smart.

00:46:59Marc:Smart guy, clean guy, nice guy.

00:47:01Guest:Very clean, yes.

00:47:02Marc:You know, like no menace.

00:47:03Marc:No.

00:47:04Marc:You know, like, I remember, like, Keenan, like, a lot of people don't know his stand-up, because, like, he, you know... Keenan was an extremely funny stand-up.

00:47:12Marc:Yeah, but it was sort of straight-up joke stuff, right?

00:47:16Guest:It was jokes and stories.

00:47:17Guest:My family, we all, like, we have a kind of twisted, like, sense of humor, and we like to joke about ourselves, joke about lives, joke about our lives, joke about things that happened to us, you know?

00:47:26Marc:I think I saw him when I was a doorman at the store right when he was done, like, you know, right towards the end of him doing stand-up.

00:47:33Guest:No, but he still, we all did a tour together.

00:47:36Guest:Me, him, Danny, and Sean.

00:47:39Marc:Night to night, man.

00:47:40Marc:Night to night, I'm saying.

00:47:41Marc:What do you mean?

00:47:41Marc:Like going out every night.

00:47:43Marc:Oh, yeah.

00:47:43Marc:He got tired of it.

00:47:45Guest:Fuck this.

00:47:46Guest:I'm going to go create me a TV show.

00:47:48Guest:Yeah, he did.

00:47:49Guest:But he took all the things in stand-up, and Keaton's such a visionary.

00:47:54Guest:Some people...

00:47:55Marc:Living color was his vision.

00:47:58Guest:He was a visionary and Damon was like his right hand.

00:48:03Guest:And the two of them did some amazing shit and inspired my entire family.

00:48:08Marc:For sure.

00:48:09Marc:He was in, wasn't he in Townsend's movie?

00:48:11Marc:He co-wrote.

00:48:12Guest:He co-wrote.

00:48:13Guest:In the Jerry Crow bit.

00:48:16Guest:In the Jerry Crow bit.

00:48:18Guest:I was performing out of high school in ninth grade when that movie came out.

00:48:26Guest:Then he did I'm Gonna Get You Sucker.

00:48:27Guest:And I flew out to California to actually be in the movie, but I came out too late.

00:48:33Guest:I was supposed to do Chris Rock's part, but I came out too late.

00:48:36Guest:One rib, I was supposed to do that part, but I came out too late because I was still in school.

00:48:41Guest:Yeah.

00:48:41Guest:So when I came out, he put us in the Fly Guy scene when Fly Guy was walking down the block with the Goldfish shoes and his shoes broke.

00:48:47Guest:Me and my brother Sean are in the background laughing at his shoes.

00:48:51Guest:So that was the first time I was on- On camera?

00:48:54Guest:Yeah.

00:48:55Marc:And when I was a doorman at the store, I used to watch Damon all the time.

00:49:00Guest:Damon told me, don't give a fuck about the audience.

00:49:02Guest:He didn't.

00:49:02Guest:You say what the fuck you gonna say, because as a performer, you have to be free enough to do whatever the fuck you want to do.

00:49:09Guest:And everybody, especially nowadays, they're so judgmental.

00:49:12Guest:And when Damon felt you're judgmental, he'd fuck with you.

00:49:15Guest:He wouldn't even give you jokes.

00:49:17Guest:He'd sit on stage and he'd fart in the mic and go, this room stinks.

00:49:21Guest:And he would leave.

00:49:23Guest:i seen him leave the stage yeah one time he went on he did the invisible comic yeah because the audience was being weird yeah and he went behind the camera and he i mean behind the curtain yeah and he did his whole act audio yeah and it he was just free man and you would think he was high on something but he wasn't no the thing was great is that like when he felt it like when he was just riffing in one of the weird characters that he would do he'd just keep going

00:49:49Marc:Yeah.

00:49:50Guest:Yeah.

00:49:51Marc:And you just watch it.

00:49:53Guest:Just be like, how far is this going to go?

00:49:58Guest:But you know what?

00:49:59Guest:That's all of us.

00:50:00Guest:That's all comedians.

00:50:01Guest:I used to watch Sam Kinison bomb.

00:50:03Guest:I was a kid going to the comedy store.

00:50:05Guest:Sam Kinison bomb literally every night until one day he hit this note.

00:50:11Guest:The anger, something happened.

00:50:13Guest:He got angry.

00:50:14Guest:He got funny.

00:50:16Guest:And he became hilarious.

00:50:19Guest:At first, people didn't know what to do with it.

00:50:21Guest:He could still bomb, you know?

00:50:23Guest:Yeah.

00:50:24Guest:But sometimes when you stay in it, you find the joke.

00:50:27Guest:Paul Mooney helped white people tap into their white guilt.

00:50:32Guest:That's right.

00:50:32Guest:And he would make you sit there, oh, you know what you did.

00:50:38Guest:Yeah.

00:50:38Guest:The most liberal white deal.

00:50:40Guest:Oh, you know what you do.

00:50:42Guest:Oh, you think you're somebody special because you have a black friend.

00:50:44Guest:Oh, I have a nigga quota.

00:50:47Guest:Oh, here's a nigga friend.

00:50:49Guest:Paul Mooney, but I watched him close the laugh at the comedy store.

00:50:54Guest:Every night he closed and he would just stay in it and stay in it.

00:50:59Guest:and stay in it and that's what made him brilliant because the things that you thought he bombed with is the things that he absolutely killed with that really made his career.

00:51:09Marc:But so you're watching all this stuff because you're hanging around but you still weren't, you just wanted to act?

00:51:14Guest:I was scared to do stand-up.

00:51:16Guest:I really was.

00:51:16Guest:Because when you do stand-up, sometimes in my family, we pull from our life.

00:51:21Guest:And when you got Kenan, Sean, Damon, Kim.

00:51:24Marc:Everything been covered.

00:51:26Guest:What the fuck am I going to talk about?

00:51:29Guest:All them.

00:51:30Guest:But that's what you realize.

00:51:33Guest:And that's the beauty of comedy, right?

00:51:35Guest:It doesn't matter who goes on.

00:51:37Guest:It doesn't matter how many comedians there are.

00:51:39Guest:We all have our own point of view.

00:51:40Guest:It don't matter how many do Trump jokes.

00:51:43Guest:Everybody has their own point of view about themselves and the world or anything that ever happens to you.

00:51:49Guest:And so that's, for me, the most freeing thing.

00:51:53Guest:And it's the thing that I learned doing stand-up over the last 10 years is, you know, there's always something to talk about.

00:51:58Guest:As long as you're truthful and you talk about you and what's your point of view, we're all trying to gather what our point of view is.

00:52:04Guest:Because then the math and the science, after doing the repetition, it comes and it processes into your brain and it spits out the way you spit it out.

00:52:11Marc:Yeah, and then you figure out how to make it funny.

00:52:15Marc:And sometimes you're talking truth and you're talking seriousness and you feel uncomfortable with how serious it's gotten and then you fuck a chair.

00:52:24Guest:When all else fails, fuck the stool.

00:52:29Fuck the chair.

00:52:30Guest:No, but it's funny because I've watched.

00:52:35Guest:My brother Damien used to say, don't be afraid of silence.

00:52:39Guest:If they're listening, then they'll laugh when you hit it.

00:52:43Guest:And I've seen you go on.

00:52:45Guest:You'll talk for literally two hours.

00:52:48Guest:I thought it was a science class.

00:52:50Guest:Yeah, I know.

00:52:51Guest:But when you hit, it's like, boom.

00:52:55Guest:That's why I'm doing this free set.

00:52:58Guest:I'm here because I'm trying to find the funny.

00:53:01Guest:Anybody just writes a set and then goes, I'm going out to do a special.

00:53:05Guest:No, we have to tour it.

00:53:06Guest:We have to work it.

00:53:08Guest:I mean, literally.

00:53:09Guest:I know.

00:53:09Marc:I'm going to Denver on Thursday for five shows in the club to work it.

00:53:13Marc:Which one?

00:53:14Marc:Comedy Works.

00:53:15Guest:I love Comedy Works.

00:53:16Marc:It's the best.

00:53:17Marc:It's like I've been working out this new hour trying to figure it out.

00:53:19Marc:You know, and I've been doing these sets downtown at the Dynasty Typewriter, doing an hour and a half.

00:53:23Guest:That's what I saw you do.

00:53:24Marc:Just riffing it, you know, and but I like it.

00:53:27Marc:I mean, I feel grounded.

00:53:29Marc:I'm not afraid.

00:53:30Marc:But, you know, I still like I need to, you know, things need to be delivered.

00:53:34Marc:When you do it like that, you're basically cornering yourself.

00:53:38Marc:You know, you're making you have to be funny because you're out.

00:53:41Marc:You put it out there and now either it's going to be delivered or it is not.

00:53:46Yeah.

00:53:47Guest:When it's not, that keeps you up all night.

00:53:50Guest:What did I do wrong?

00:53:52Marc:The other night I was at the store, dude, and I was being funny, but I could just feel I was doing that Damon thing where I was creating all this tension.

00:54:00Marc:And it was making me want to cry.

00:54:02Marc:The tension was so thick, and I'm like, I don't know.

00:54:06Marc:And I just said to him, I put my hand on my face, and I was like, I don't know why I'm doing this to you.

00:54:13Marc:I said, it's hurting me what I'm doing, and I don't even know if it's comedy anymore, but I don't know how to get us out of it.

00:54:26Marc:They started laughing at that, and I was like, thank God.

00:54:29Marc:I just told the truth, and it got me out.

00:54:31Guest:But that's what's beautiful, man, the fucking truth, and that's why we...

00:54:36Guest:sit in those clubs and do that time and that's why you tour it and that's why you work it and work it and work it and you know like I filmed an hour and a half my other special I filmed an hour 45 next one I'm not doing it I'm gonna go this is it it's just that I can't account for when I improvise

00:54:54Guest:Just do 70 minutes, dude.

00:54:55Guest:I know.

00:54:56Marc:Where did I just see over at the press thing?

00:54:59Marc:And you told me about the special.

00:55:02Marc:And you're like, I already got another one.

00:55:03Marc:I'm like, do you?

00:55:04Guest:I do, though.

00:55:04Guest:Here's why.

00:55:05Guest:No, you ready?

00:55:06Guest:No, here's why.

00:55:07Guest:All right.

00:55:08Guest:Because the one I was going to do, I decided I didn't want to do.

00:55:12Guest:because I felt like it wasn't appropriate for me to do a special like that now, because it was about me and my brothers and growing up in the household.

00:55:21Guest:And I was like, no, I want the audience to know a little bit more about me.

00:55:24Guest:And I need to discover more about me as a parent, me as a person, me and my fuck-ups, before I do something about me and my brothers.

00:55:32Guest:I'm stepping out of being just the Baby Wayans, and I don't want to lean on that crutch.

00:55:39Guest:I'm trying to create my own identity as Marlon.

00:55:42Marc:Yeah.

00:55:43Marc:So now this next one's a family special.

00:55:45Guest:Well, no, this next one, I think my mom died.

00:55:48Guest:So I think I'm going to talk about all the tragic shit that's happened to me in this last year and a half.

00:55:53Marc:Yeah.

00:55:53Marc:That sounds fun.

00:55:55Marc:It will be.

00:55:56Marc:I mean, I'm doing it and my girlfriend died and I'm trying to figure out how to do it.

00:55:59Guest:We went through the same shit.

00:56:00Guest:Your girlfriend died.

00:56:01Marc:Yeah.

00:56:02Guest:And the girl I was dating had a brain aneurysm.

00:56:06Guest:She lived.

00:56:07Guest:So... She all right?

00:56:10Guest:Yeah, she's healing, man.

00:56:11Guest:She's healing.

00:56:12Guest:That's tough.

00:56:14Guest:That happened during Respect.

00:56:15Guest:Yeah.

00:56:15Guest:We was filming, and Liesl, God bless her, gave me, changed the schedule around, and let me be by her side for like a week and a half.

00:56:25Guest:Oh, just out of nowhere, dude?

00:56:26Guest:Out of nowhere.

00:56:27Guest:She was on a plane, just came from visiting me, and just...

00:56:30Wow.

00:56:30Marc:Are you guys still together?

00:56:33Marc:Yeah.

00:56:33Guest:Just such an amazing person.

00:56:35Marc:I'm glad you made it through, man.

00:56:36Guest:Yeah.

00:56:39Guest:She's a gift.

00:56:40Guest:God is good.

00:56:40Marc:It's hard to do.

00:56:42Marc:It's challenging.

00:56:46Marc:Because I know I got to talk about it and I don't know how to talk about it.

00:56:49Marc:But because I'm improvising, I found ways.

00:56:52Marc:And, you know, the trick is to and I think you do this well, is that, you know, to to embrace the humanity of it and the vulnerability of it and not be disrespectful to it, which I'm not sure you're great at.

00:57:03Guest:But the but that's but see, that's my thing.

00:57:07Guest:My thing is disrespecting it because I need to disrespect it because that's the way I process it.

00:57:14Guest:That's funny to me.

00:57:15Guest:The dark things that I'm saying, it may be a little offsetting to you, but some of this shit, I need this shit.

00:57:21Guest:No, no, I know.

00:57:22Guest:I'm not saying it's not funny.

00:57:24Guest:It's crazy, but I love the fact that you're talking about that because so many people are trying to act like, oh, that never happened.

00:57:31Guest:No, it fucking happened.

00:57:32Guest:It fucked me up.

00:57:33Guest:Yeah.

00:57:33Marc:Well, yeah, I mean, it's like to me, it's just I don't want to like I want to get off stage and, you know, I don't want to feel the weight of the disrespect, you know, and I'm like, what?

00:57:44Marc:I don't respect anything.

00:57:45Marc:You know, I'm you know, I'm a pretty selfish guy.

00:57:48Marc:But when you're talking about someone's memory, you got to figure that out.

00:57:51Marc:Right.

00:57:52Marc:Because you're going to be talking about the grief.

00:57:54Marc:You're going to be talking about the loss and you don't want to make fun of the dead in a way that isn't balanced for me.

00:58:02Marc:Do you know what I mean?

00:58:03Guest:When you looked at me, I was like, meh.

00:58:07Guest:I don't know what the fuck you talking about.

00:58:09Guest:You don't?

00:58:10Guest:Here's why.

00:58:11Guest:When my mom passed, I had to get on stage because that's the only thing that healed me.

00:58:17Guest:There's been times I've been on stage.

00:58:19Guest:Yeah, I feel that too.

00:58:19Guest:And I literally...

00:58:20Guest:Left the stage and cried.

00:58:22Guest:Yeah, I Mother's Day I perform and I did a whole set just about my mother just dedicated to my mom Just I just talked about my mom.

00:58:31Guest:What was funny about my mom.

00:58:32Guest:I did a whole fucking hour.

00:58:33Guest:Yeah death Yeah, and I said some respectful things I said some different respectful things, but the audience laughter made me feel good about the memory of my mom like I

00:58:46Guest:People like not giving a fuck.

00:58:49Guest:I've learned when we did scary movies.

00:58:52Guest:Yeah, I can be juvenile.

00:58:54Guest:I can be political.

00:58:55Guest:I can be all that shit, but I'm always going to be a little bit juvenile because that's who I am as a kid.

00:59:00Guest:I've always been ridiculous in nature.

00:59:03Guest:Why think about things in between?

00:59:06Guest:Let me go all the way there, push the envelope all the way, and then I'll come back and try and find those other things later.

00:59:11Marc:Yeah, no, I get that.

00:59:12Marc:And I respect that.

00:59:13Marc:And I do that as well in my own way.

00:59:16Marc:But it's sort of interesting because your reputation is built on, there's something ridiculously hilarious about doing scary movies, right?

00:59:25Marc:I mean, it's a certain type of comedy.

00:59:30Marc:Zucker Brothers.

00:59:31Guest:Airplane.

00:59:35Guest:I'm thinking about it.

00:59:36Guest:Some of the greats, Carl Reiner.

00:59:39Guest:What's his name?

00:59:41Guest:Mel Brooks.

00:59:42Guest:I mean, you know, it's an underappreciated art form.

00:59:46Guest:But it...

00:59:47Guest:You want big laughs?

00:59:49Guest:We know how to get those big laughs.

00:59:51Guest:And it takes just as much thought, science, and nurturing to create that, and balls to create that, than it is to sit down and write something, you know?

01:00:05Marc:Yeah, thoughtful and dramatic.

01:00:06Marc:Yeah.

01:00:07Marc:Yeah.

01:00:07Marc:When Requiem happened, I mean, how did you... Because that role, like, that movie, like, what did you think of that script and, like, how did that all happen?

01:00:15Marc:Because I know it's a long time ago, but that was a dark, fucking weird-ass movie, dude.

01:00:20Marc:It was crazy.

01:00:21Marc:Based on an amazing book.

01:00:22Guest:When I read the book, I read... First, my agent sent me the...

01:00:27Guest:Script and I got pissed off fucking send me some shit like this is 1990 Why is a black man still talking like he's in the 70s you dig and yeah smack us the fuck out of here And then they said no no no, that's just the way the character talks I said alright it was listen the directors amazing and they sent me pot.

01:00:45Guest:Yeah

01:00:46Guest:And I sat down and I watched Pi.

01:00:48Guest:And I immediately said, oh, I get it.

01:00:53Guest:I get it.

01:00:53Guest:This dude is a visionary.

01:00:56Guest:He's going to do it in a whole other way.

01:00:58Guest:Then I read the book.

01:01:00Guest:Then I met with Darren.

01:01:01Guest:And then Darren explained to me what he was planning to do with the movie.

01:01:06Guest:And I was like, great.

01:01:07Guest:I want to be a part of it.

01:01:08Guest:He said, perfect.

01:01:10Perfect.

01:01:10Guest:But I don't want somebody on the WB in my fucking classic.

01:01:15Guest:And so he said, no.

01:01:17Guest:I said, let me audition for it.

01:01:19Guest:And I auditioned for it five times.

01:01:22Guest:And finally, I guess I just wore him down and I got the role.

01:01:27Guest:And see, what people don't know about me is I went to perform while I was in high school.

01:01:31Guest:I choose comedy because I know how difficult comedy is.

01:01:35Guest:Fucking acting?

01:01:36Guest:Drama, I do that.

01:01:38Guest:That's what I went to school for.

01:01:39Guest:I didn't go to school for comedy.

01:01:41Guest:I went to school for the dramatic arts.

01:01:43Marc:You grew up in comedy.

01:01:44Guest:I grew up in comedy.

01:01:45Guest:I did.

01:01:45Guest:I grew up in the comedy clubs.

01:01:46Guest:I'm seeing people, Sam Kennison and Paul Mooney.

01:01:50Guest:Did you see Richard?

01:01:51Guest:I saw Richard.

01:01:52Guest:Towards the end?

01:01:53Guest:I saw Richard perform towards the end.

01:01:55Guest:Before the wheelchair, though.

01:01:56Guest:I've seen him perform in the wheelchair.

01:01:59Marc:Yeah, yeah, but, like, when I was a doorman, I saw him before he got sick.

01:02:04Guest:You were lucky.

01:02:05Marc:How was that?

01:02:06Marc:It was intense, man, because it was a weird night, dude.

01:02:08Marc:And, like, he didn't come around much, so I'm a dore guy there at, what, 87?

01:02:11Marc:86, 87-ish?

01:02:15Marc:And he just started coming back around.

01:02:16Marc:It was after he burned himself up.

01:02:18Marc:And he was vulnerable.

01:02:20Marc:But he was always vulnerable.

01:02:22Marc:And I just remember watching him one night in the original room.

01:02:24Marc:And he couldn't get a toehold in.

01:02:28Marc:There was some people in from... I remember it specifically.

01:02:32Marc:There was a band.

01:02:33Marc:There were some women there who recognized some people who were in a rock band.

01:02:37Marc:Like Cinderella or something.

01:02:38Marc:They were in the room.

01:02:39Marc:And they were talking.

01:02:41Marc:They were like, oh, my God.

01:02:42Marc:And Richard couldn't get a handle on the room.

01:02:44Marc:And I just watched him struggle.

01:02:46Marc:And I was like, what the fuck is happening?

01:02:49Marc:But, you know, he was just trying to get back on the horse, man.

01:02:53Guest:But imagine being Richard.

01:02:55Guest:You're the biggest star in the world.

01:02:57Guest:And now you're coming back to a little smoky comedy club.

01:03:01Guest:Oh, it's great.

01:03:03Guest:It was amazing.

01:03:04Guest:But it was sad.

01:03:05Guest:You have this noise.

01:03:05Guest:Yeah.

01:03:06Guest:It is sad, but that's what made him brilliant.

01:03:08Guest:But he stayed vulnerable.

01:03:09Guest:Yes.

01:03:09Marc:Like, you know, he stayed in that in his heart.

01:03:14Marc:He didn't get mad.

01:03:15Marc:You know, he just was sort of like polite, you know.

01:03:19Marc:But it was hard.

01:03:20Marc:It was a little hard to watch.

01:03:21Guest:It was a little hard to watch him in a wheelchair talking about his MS.

01:03:25Guest:And I thought it was the bravest shit I ever seen.

01:03:28Guest:And he was talking about how his, you know, his dick don't work.

01:03:31Guest:Yeah.

01:03:32Guest:You know.

01:03:33Guest:Yeah.

01:03:33Guest:I just I was amazed at how he could still find a smile in his own tragedy and I that's always for me that that's that that quality in a comedian I fucking love to find your own smile and your own tragedy is just it's fucking beautiful to make others smile with your pain and

01:03:57Guest:That's a gift that we have, and it's also healing for ourselves.

01:04:01Guest:And it's the bravest shit you can do.

01:04:02Marc:If you get there.

01:04:03Marc:I mean, I don't know that everybody rises to that.

01:04:07Marc:I don't know.

01:04:08Marc:I mean, I think that's at its best.

01:04:10Marc:That's when it's good.

01:04:12Guest:I love the fact that you're talking about this right here.

01:04:16Guest:Like you're talking about you're losing the woman you love.

01:04:21Guest:Yeah.

01:04:21Guest:It seems dark, but I understand.

01:04:26Guest:When you find that, that's, to me, the dopest comedy.

01:04:31Guest:Political shit, it's easy to talk about the world.

01:04:33Guest:That's easy shit, nigga, all day long.

01:04:36Guest:Just give me a newspaper.

01:04:37Guest:But when you start talking about yourself, when you start talking about your pain, start talking about your trauma, start talking about what hurts you, and sometimes it's hard to even get through.

01:04:44Guest:I've left stage when I had to talk about my mom sometime.

01:04:47Guest:I couldn't say the joke, because I lost my mama.

01:04:50Guest:And there's nothing more painful than losing your mother.

01:04:55Guest:I try to tell people all the fucking time, nothing compares.

01:04:59Guest:I mean, people try to compare the two.

01:05:01Guest:I'm grieving.

01:05:02Guest:I feel so bad.

01:05:03Guest:My uncle died.

01:05:05Guest:Fuck.

01:05:05Guest:your uncle.

01:05:07Guest:I'll be touch your dick in your sleep.

01:05:09Guest:I lost my mama, motherfucker.

01:05:11Guest:Not my mama, brother.

01:05:13Marc:Fuck.

01:05:14Marc:But the weird thing is that as much as it is not talked about or handled, it's the most common thing.

01:05:22Marc:Everybody dies.

01:05:23Marc:Everybody deals with death.

01:05:24Guest:But it's hard to deal with.

01:05:25Guest:It's hard to talk about.

01:05:26Marc:I know, but it shouldn't be.

01:05:28Marc:Because it's one of the most common things.

01:05:30Marc:But it's one of the things that we're all afraid of.

01:05:32Marc:You don't want to die.

01:05:33Marc:And you think if you talk about it, you're going to be closer to it.

01:05:36Guest:But that's why you're courageous.

01:05:38Marc:That's right.

01:05:39Marc:No, I think it's good.

01:05:39Marc:You've got to disarm it.

01:05:40Marc:And there's a lot of people walking around the world carrying a lot of grief.

01:05:44Marc:And I think it's corrosive.

01:05:46Marc:And I think it's at the core of a lot of problems.

01:05:49Marc:Unfucking processed grief.

01:05:51Marc:Right.

01:05:51Marc:And if you can laugh and it comes out like that, I love that laughter that should be crying.

01:05:56Marc:Right.

01:05:58Marc:Yeah.

01:05:58Marc:That's the best kind of laughter.

01:05:59Marc:I agree.

01:06:04Guest:I've had people, my mom's Mother's Day show, I've had people come up with tears in their eyes from one left side from crying and the other side from laughing.

01:06:15Guest:But because, you know, they've lost it too and they understand the shit.

01:06:18Guest:Yeah, buddy.

01:06:19Marc:It's like it's how you get to that place where you're talking about getting humbled enough to allow yourself to talk about it.

01:06:29Marc:I was a brittle guy for years on stage, just aggravated and angry.

01:06:34Marc:And it took life beating me down one way or the other to get grounded in myself.

01:06:42Marc:Because I didn't know who I was.

01:06:43Marc:And it takes that shit, whatever it is, heartbreak, pain.

01:06:48Marc:It's going to wear you down.

01:06:50Marc:Either you're going to continue fighting it and look like Ted, or you're going to surrender a little.

01:06:57Marc:But the more you fight when you're losing, it's no shit.

01:07:00Guest:Yeah, but you've matured in the past 20 years.

01:07:03Guest:Your best year is now.

01:07:06Guest:I think that's true.

01:07:07Guest:This is the fact that you haven't drank or had any crack.

01:07:12Guest:No crack.

01:07:12Guest:You know how badly I want to get you high?

01:07:14Guest:I know.

01:07:15Guest:You were doing that on set.

01:07:16Guest:Let's have a fucking drink.

01:07:18Guest:Just some whiskey.

01:07:19Guest:You one night.

01:07:21Marc:One night.

01:07:22Marc:You wake up going, boy, that was fun.

01:07:25Marc:Where's Mark?

01:07:26Marc:No one knows, man.

01:07:28Marc:What did you do?

01:07:30Marc:You fucking devil.

01:07:31Marc:I just told you we did one drink.

01:07:35Marc:We lost him, man.

01:07:39Marc:You don't got no drunks in your family?

01:07:42Guest:Not, like, none of the abuse is drunk.

01:07:46Guest:My dad, my dad's a, I always call him a drunk, but he likes the taste, but he's a happy drunk.

01:07:52Guest:You know what I mean?

01:07:53Guest:Like, I've never had the abusive, like, I'll kill you.

01:07:56Guest:Everybody get, no.

01:07:58Guest:My dad, I get drunk with my dad now.

01:07:59Guest:We have a good time.

01:08:00Guest:He's still around?

01:08:02Guest:Yeah, my dad is 85.

01:08:03Guest:I'm going to go check him out.

01:08:04Guest:He's in New York.

01:08:05Guest:I'm going to go check out.

01:08:06Guest:I'll come over there.

01:08:07Guest:I'll bring him some wine.

01:08:08Guest:He'd drink until his feet stinks, and then he falls asleep.

01:08:11Marc:Yeah?

01:08:12Marc:That's wild.

01:08:12Marc:I guess my dad's 83.

01:08:14Marc:I guess they're still around.

01:08:18Marc:Does your dad drink?

01:08:19Marc:No, he doesn't drink anymore.

01:08:20Marc:He doesn't do much anymore.

01:08:21Marc:I think his brain's going.

01:08:23Guest:Okay.

01:08:23Marc:Yeah.

01:08:24Marc:So that's a whole other ball of wax.

01:08:26Guest:Well, hey.

01:08:27Marc:I'm trying to do bits about that.

01:08:28Guest:Put that in the special.

01:08:29Marc:I'm doing it.

01:08:30Marc:I said, I said, like, because the bit I'm doing about that is like, oh, you'll like it, because I'm like, he's just starting to get the Alzheimer's, you know?

01:08:39Marc:Yeah.

01:08:39Marc:And my dad was sort of a difficult, kind of an asshole, a difficult guy, you know, like,

01:08:44Marc:But now he's got the Alzheimer's.

01:08:47Marc:And he's still got his old memories, but the new memory's not so good.

01:08:50Marc:And he can't follow through.

01:08:51Marc:And it's like, he's kind of like, he's forgotten how to be an asshole.

01:08:55Marc:And I guess what I'm saying is like, if you have a family member that's got Alzheimer's, don't miss the sweet spot.

01:09:03Marc:It's right at the beginning, I think.

01:09:04Marc:And then I say, and I know eventually, he's going to forget who I am.

01:09:10Marc:And then I look at the audience and I go, and I will be truly free.

01:09:14LAUGHTER

01:09:17Marc:It's a hard sell, dude, but I'm trying.

01:09:19Marc:But I love it.

01:09:20Marc:Yeah, I love it, too.

01:09:20Marc:That's, to me, the best shit, bro.

01:09:22Marc:The only problem is, like, a lot of people don't have that experience with Alzheimer's.

01:09:25Marc:It's just a shit show.

01:09:27Marc:But my dad is very sweet right now, and I know it's going to get bad, and I know he's probably difficult with his wife, but with me, you know, it's all very, you know, he knows what's up.

01:09:37Guest:I don't know where Alzheimer's, like, that type of stuff...

01:09:40Guest:It's hard to deal with, but, I mean, we have a sick family, so we always find it funny.

01:09:47Marc:What do your people die of?

01:09:49Guest:My mom, she had diabetes.

01:09:51Marc:But she lived until 80-something, right?

01:09:53Guest:Yeah, she lived.

01:09:54Guest:That's good.

01:09:54Guest:Good life, right?

01:09:55Guest:She's a strong black woman.

01:09:57Guest:Diabetes.

01:09:57Guest:This woman had 10 kids before anesthesia.

01:10:01Guest:Back in the day, when there was no anesthesia, she says, give me that wallet.

01:10:05Guest:Pass me the wallet and the whiskey.

01:10:08I got to bite down on it.

01:10:09Guest:Do all you guys get along?

01:10:10Marc:All the siblings?

01:10:12Guest:Yeah, man.

01:10:12Guest:I love my brothers and sisters.

01:10:14Guest:I have a close relationship with each one.

01:10:18Marc:Yeah.

01:10:18Marc:That's good.

01:10:19Marc:Are they most of them out here?

01:10:20Guest:Because they've all choked me at some point in my life.

01:10:23Guest:You're the one.

01:10:23Guest:Yeah, you're the one.

01:10:24Guest:Keenan I'm a little scared of because he spanked me when I was like 10.

01:10:28Guest:He kind of stood in for the old man sometimes?

01:10:30Guest:No, my father spanked me too, but he kind of doubled up on it.

01:10:33Guest:So I'm a little pissed off at him.

01:10:35Marc:Give me a shot.

01:10:36Guest:Pass him over here.

01:10:37Guest:They just passed you around to spank.

01:10:42Guest:It's hard being the youngest, man.

01:10:43Guest:I guess, man.

01:10:44Guest:I got fucked up because most families- No new clothes.

01:10:47Guest:No new clothes.

01:10:47Guest:I got everything hand-me-down.

01:10:49Guest:Everything.

01:10:49Guest:Never new clothes.

01:10:50Guest:At one point, I had Damon's fucking sneakers, Kenan's pants, and my father's underwear on.

01:10:56Guest:Nothing was mine.

01:10:58Guest:And I'm the butt of every joke.

01:11:00Marc:There's the name of the special.

01:11:01Guest:Nothing was mine.

01:11:02Guest:You're really good at that.

01:11:05Guest:Coining the phrase.

01:11:07Guest:I'm just going to write that down.

01:11:09Marc:Nothing was mine.

01:11:13Marc:And then you work towards, at the end, the callback, you're like, and that's who I am now.

01:11:21Marc:You know what it is.

01:11:24Ha ha!

01:11:24Guest:That's coming out August 19th.

01:11:27Guest:All right.

01:11:27Guest:You know what it is.

01:11:28Guest:Is that what the name of the space is?

01:11:30Guest:HBO Max.

01:11:31Guest:Is it called You Know What It Is?

01:11:32Guest:You know what it is.

01:11:33Marc:You give away the whole thing?

01:11:34Guest:I didn't want to.

01:11:35Guest:HBO Max, we love it.

01:11:38Guest:I was like, but you're giving the joke away.

01:11:42Marc:I don't know if it does.

01:11:43Guest:It does.

01:11:43Guest:We love it.

01:11:44Marc:There's so much to it.

01:11:45Marc:There's so much more to it.

01:11:46Guest:Well, you got to know what it is, and then you go, oh, I get it.

01:11:49Marc:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:11:50Guest:I don't want to.

01:11:52Guest:I wanted to call it.

01:11:52Guest:What do I want to call it?

01:11:54Guest:I want to call it Yachts, Mermaids, and Alley Belly Buttons.

01:11:59Guest:That's good.

01:12:00Guest:Or I want to call it Boiling Hot Mess.

01:12:06Marc:Nah.

01:12:06Guest:You know?

01:12:07Marc:Nah.

01:12:08Guest:Yeah.

01:12:08Guest:You know what it is.

01:12:09Marc:I like you know what it is.

01:12:11Guest:Wait.

01:12:11Guest:Let me tell you the titles.

01:12:13Guest:We actually have an email.

01:12:15Marc:I was surprised that the bringing around the mermaid story worked.

01:12:21Marc:It was good.

01:12:24Marc:All right.

01:12:24Marc:I did, though.

01:12:26Guest:You were surprised.

01:12:28Guest:You're an asshole.

01:12:31Guest:Someone's got to do it.

01:12:34Guest:You're the worst.

01:12:35Guest:I know.

01:12:35Guest:All right.

01:12:36Guest:That comes out August 19th.

01:12:37Guest:Respect.

01:12:38Guest:August 13th.

01:12:39Guest:Watch it.

01:12:40Guest:I'm in it.

01:12:40Guest:Marc Maron steals the show.

01:12:43Guest:No, no.

01:12:43Guest:I was blessed to share a screen with this man.

01:12:46Guest:Yeah.

01:12:46Guest:You're really funny.

01:12:48Guest:You're a really solid actor.

01:12:51Guest:Oh, thanks, buddy.

01:12:52Guest:You are.

01:12:52Guest:You're good.

01:12:53Guest:Some people, you're just like, you know, you're really good.

01:12:56Marc:Oh, thanks, man.

01:12:57Guest:I appreciate it.

01:12:57Guest:You still should do a buddy comedy.

01:12:59Guest:Okay, write it.

01:13:00Guest:You're the guy.

01:13:00Guest:You won't do my jokes.

01:13:02Marc:I'll write my part.

01:13:04Marc:Put me in one of your $100 million movies that kids like.

01:13:08Marc:Give me some back end and there we go.

01:13:12Marc:That kid's like, I hate you.

01:13:15Marc:Good talking to you.

01:13:15Marc:I love you, brother.

01:13:16Marc:Love you too.

01:13:22Marc:Marlon.

01:13:23Marc:Some fun.

01:13:24Marc:That was fun.

01:13:25Marc:I like guys who I could poke at.

01:13:27Marc:Anyways, the movie Respect is out now.

01:13:30Marc:Marlon Wayans, You Know What It Is, premieres this Thursday, HBO Max.

01:13:34Marc:That's August 19th.

01:13:36Marc:Okay, let's play some desert guitar.

01:14:43Marc:Boomer lives.

01:14:45Marc:Monkey.

01:14:46Marc:La Fonda.

01:14:48Marc:Cat angels everywhere.