Ep. 425: "The Car Bar"

Episode 425 • Released May 17, 2021 • Speakers not detected

Episode 425 artwork
00:00:07Hi, John.
00:00:09Hi, Merlin.
00:00:11How's it going?
00:00:13Got a little bit of a software, hardware thing here going on.
00:00:18Hang on.
00:00:19Are you having an AV issue?
00:00:20I have an AD issue.
00:00:22How's it sound now?
00:00:24Oh, the same.
00:00:25Do you want me to send my guy over?
00:00:26I got a guy.
00:00:28Well, the thing is, it sounds the same to you because my microphone was working.
00:00:34It just sounds different to me because I switched the
00:00:36The output mode.
00:00:40Oh, the output mode, okay.
00:00:41Because, see, I'm using a new interface.
00:00:43Not new.
00:00:44Oh, that's exciting.
00:00:45We should talk about this.
00:00:46This is the best type of show we do.
00:00:50No, this is the old...
00:00:51When I was on iHeartMedia... Okay.
00:00:57You're still doing it, right?
00:00:59You know that.
00:00:59I'm doing what?
00:01:00What am I doing?
00:01:01Oh, sorry.
00:01:02I'm still getting your computer sound.
00:01:04Are you really?
00:01:06Computer sound.
00:01:07Hang on.
00:01:07Oh, because it says built-in microphone.
00:01:09Hang on.
00:01:10How about now?
00:01:11iHeartRadio.
00:01:12Is this good?
00:01:13Does it sound... Yeah, you sound great.
00:01:14Oh, see, that's the thing.
00:01:15That was the source.
00:01:17So when I was on iHeartRadio, you know, they tried to...
00:01:21They tried to give us a bunch of gear.
00:01:25And so they gave me an Apogee Quartet.
00:01:29which is a kind of interface, an audio.
00:01:33We used to say audio-to-digital interface.
00:01:36It's a sound, a piece of sound.
00:01:38It turns voice into computer.
00:01:40It turns voice into computer, and then it will turn your computer voice back into voice to me so I can hear it instead of just ones and zeros.
00:01:48Okay, that makes sense.
00:01:50So this has got four XLR inputs.
00:01:52I mean, you know, I could basically record...
00:01:55a drum drum take on this wouldn't be that good but well anyway i mean you'd have to you have to do it a lot you get better at it you'll be a regular albini in no time a regular albini uh but the get it in a real wet room get a wet room
00:02:11Get a wet room, maybe have you play in like a stairwell or something.
00:02:14And then you have several sets of mics.
00:02:16You could do, you know, a Bowie, a Visconti by way of Bowie type thing with a gate.
00:02:24You love gates.
00:02:25To be an Albini, I would then make some very disparaging comments about your band and about music in general and about the music industry.
00:02:32He once referred to something, it might even be a Pixies record, which would be a bummer, but he once referred to something as a pinch loaf one-off, and I still think of that a lot.
00:02:41I think he talked about in utero and called it, you know, a mediocre punk, a mediocre band making a mediocre album or something.
00:02:52It's no rape man.
00:02:53Anyway.
00:02:55Anyway.
00:02:55So I stopped using the... Apogee four-way.
00:03:01Apogee quartet.
00:03:02Because I switched over to the little red box because I was doing a lot of traveling and the little red box was easier to carry in my bag Do you get scarlet?
00:03:10I got a scarlet a little scar.
00:03:12Yeah, they're very they're cute and they fit right in your in your they're cute I got a scarless the scarlet folks right?
00:03:19There you go.
00:03:19That's you know, that's all that's all a podcaster needs From Apogee is a big thing and honestly Merlin I have to say it's one of these boxes where it's got some buttons.
00:03:29It's got a knob and
00:03:30But all of the – what it wants you to do is it wants to direct you to its – Dip switches.
00:03:39Well, no, to the onscreen.
00:03:40Oh, I see.
00:03:43It has an interface.
00:03:44Apart from the interface.
00:03:46So now to get your voice into computer, you have to, again, use computer and vice versa.
00:03:53So you have a button that says one.
00:03:55Well, you push one.
00:03:56And then you push A, B, or C, and it changes what one does.
00:04:00Thank you.
00:04:01And so on an old mixing console, you had a lot of buttons and knobs because every one did a discreet thing.
00:04:07Now you just have... And they think that this is graceful design.
00:04:11It's what we want.
00:04:12You just have one button, and the button changes depending on what the other button... It's like a digital watch from the 70s.
00:04:19Yeah, right, except you... You know what I mean?
00:04:22You got two buttons to do everything.
00:04:23You can't even play Frogger on it, though, or whatever you could... Digital watches, right?
00:04:27Remember?
00:04:27Electronic quarterback.
00:04:28Electronic quarterback.
00:04:30Oh, the hours we spent sitting at the lunch table in seventh grade playing electronic.
00:04:34You can either do a passing play or a running play.
00:04:37Kevin Horning had one.
00:04:39Kevin Horning.
00:04:39So that's what I'm doing here.
00:04:41When I plugged it in, it threw a pop-up menu that was like, oh, the Apogee software isn't updated to the thingamabob.
00:04:48And I spent a little time looking into that, and I ended up on a message board where they were like, yeah, it always says that, but that's just a bug.
00:04:57And so then I came on, and of course it wasn't.
00:05:00I see.
00:05:00So what you're saying is making your life easier.
00:05:03My life is 100% easier.
00:05:04One of the reasons I stopped using it is that I did not like the interface at all.
00:05:10The interface...
00:05:11The software interface, like so many software interfaces, just seemed kind of shabby.
00:05:18Is it emulating a rack in the way that it looks?
00:05:21It's trying to, but it doesn't do the thing.
00:05:24Some of those things, it throws up a thing and it looks like a wood-paneled office space.
00:05:31They call it skeuomorphism, where you try to make a thing look like another thing.
00:05:34You try to make a fake world item look like a real world item.
00:05:38It's skeuomorphism.
00:05:39We don't have that here with the Apogee.
00:05:42What we have is an attempt at skeuomorphism, and it did not succeed.
00:05:48So it makes me feel like I'm looking at, you know, I have to confess.
00:05:54Well, two things.
00:05:55I'm recording from my house, my new house.
00:05:58Oh, your new old house.
00:06:00You're getting finished house.
00:06:03Getting finished house.
00:06:03I'm looking out the window at the trees and bushes.
00:06:07But the real confession, that's not a confession.
00:06:12That's just a setting.
00:06:14It's more of an admission.
00:06:16I'm setting the stage because if you have any questions, I know people are curious.
00:06:22But the real change, there's been a major change, which is... Okay, should I brace myself?
00:06:29I got a pen.
00:06:30I'm not sure how this is going to be received, but I have finally purchased...
00:06:36a motor vehicle that was made in the 21st century.
00:06:43And that sounds very futuristic.
00:06:45You're kidding me.
00:06:46A 21st century motor vehicle, it sounds very futuristic, doesn't it?
00:06:49It does, like a meet George Jetson type situation.
00:06:52A ring car or something.
00:06:54But actually, we're 21 years into the 21st century.
00:06:59You could be born in the 21st century and be 21 years old.
00:07:07A car that was – I'm not loving that at all.
00:07:10A car that was made in the 21st century isn't actually necessarily a new car.
00:07:17Now, my car was made in – my old car was made in 1979, right in the heart of the 20th century, really in the thick of it, you know?
00:07:29Uh-huh.
00:07:30My car that I'm driving now, a car I recently purchased, trying to solve the... Because the problem with the Suburban was that the headlights started going off on their own in the night.
00:07:44I would be driving along and the headlights would go off.
00:07:47While you're driving?
00:07:48Yeah, you're driving along.
00:07:49They say electrical is one of the most complicated things to fix.
00:07:52That's what they say anyway.
00:07:54And what was confusing about this...
00:07:56Because I already had to do a thing when I put the key in the ignition.
00:07:59I would turn the key, not to turn the motor on, but just turn it to get the electrical on.
00:08:04And then I had to pull the gear shift lever back and to the right.
00:08:12Back and to the right.
00:08:15Back and to the right.
00:08:16Then I would turn the key with my other hand.
00:08:18I'd have to reach my left hand over, turn the key, and then the truck would start.
00:08:24Now, if you just turned the key without moving the gearshift lever back and to the right, you would get nothing.
00:08:32The starter wouldn't even click.
00:08:34So some connection I have to make by pulling the gearshift lever back and to the right.
00:08:42And then it will start.
00:08:43Just real quickly, did you just discover this?
00:08:46I mean, was this your known solution where you said, oh, out of the box, ha-ha, if this isn't working, I should do this?
00:08:54Or is this something I'm guessing that you just discovered earlier?
00:08:57Kind of accidentally.
00:08:58I was sitting on the side of the road.
00:09:00You basically found a secret panel.
00:09:01The equivalent of like you're in a first or second level dungeon.
00:09:04You're inspecting the walls and you find like a secret panel.
00:09:07It was a panic situation.
00:09:09It was right around Christmas time.
00:09:12My daughter and I had gone downtown to buy a Christmas present.
00:09:16To pick up a Christmas present.
00:09:19Her mother...
00:09:20you know, my daughter's mother slash partner and my mother are both people who will tell you the present they want.
00:09:30They're not somebody like me who says, ah, just surprise me.
00:09:34Because they know that that never produces the desired result.
00:09:37And so they say, here's the item number.
00:09:40Honestly, I know it's not very romantic or, you know, whatever, but it really saves both of you a lot of hassle and disappointment.
00:09:48It really does.
00:09:49It really does.
00:09:50My wife wanted an immersion blender, and I ordered one.
00:09:55Now, that's not the kind of thing that I ever would have thought, I should get a nice immersion blender.
00:10:00Because I don't make coffee with cardamom, but my wife does.
00:10:04I considered that a blessing.
00:10:06Yeah, that's nice.
00:10:07And for me, as somebody who wants to...
00:10:10have a thoughtful gift but also will then turn that into a month of agony as i compare two turquoise necklaces to one another in a jewelry store where the people at the store are like you again and i'm like yeah i just wanted to see which one of these glinted in the sun it's nice to be told no i would like this lamp from cost plus world market and here's the skew number
00:10:37Anyway, my daughter and I went downtown.
00:10:39It was a rainy December night and we got the little lamp and we came back to the truck and it wouldn't start.
00:10:47And it had been playing around with not starting for several months.
00:10:53And I had always managed to kind of sit there and, you know, jiggle the key and turn the radio on and off and, you know, kick the tire and then it would start.
00:11:02But she and I were downtown.
00:11:04Sun was going down.
00:11:05It was raining.
00:11:06And the truck wouldn't start.
00:11:07And it wouldn't start.
00:11:08And it wouldn't start.
00:11:11And, you know, my little girl, bless her heart, is she's somebody that really, really believes that things should go a certain way.
00:11:22And she already did not believe that dad's old green truck was the way that things should go.
00:11:32She'd had enough experience in cars that had windows that rolled down, not electric windows that rolled down necessarily, just windows that rolled down at all.
00:11:41And she knew that dad's truck had a tendency to catch on fire and that also it was very noisy in there.
00:11:49And it smelled like motor oil and mold.
00:11:51And she was just over it.
00:11:52She'd been over it.
00:11:53And she's been in your daughter's mother partner's automobile, which I'm guessing doesn't have the same issues?
00:12:02No, my partner slash daughter's mother, she's a lady that... She's a little fancy.
00:12:11A little fancy.
00:12:12And she likes a sinister looking car.
00:12:15She likes a car that looks...
00:12:18dangerous and bad and and sophisticated she grew up her her stepfather slash father uh raced um um launches uh the italian we we might say i think you mentioned this yeah lancia or even if you were trying to be fancy lancia but he says lancia which i guess is
00:12:45I mean, CIA, that's one of the ways you can pronounce CIA.
00:12:51Anyway, he raced cars and they would go out and do rally races and they liked old vintage-y cars.
00:12:58So she drives a car that when it pulls into the scene, it just looks like something wicked this way comes.
00:13:09It's the kind of car you wouldn't be embarrassed to hand over and have somebody park for you.
00:13:18You don't need to tell them anything special about how the car works.
00:13:22And you might even say something like, could you please be extra careful?
00:13:25I don't want a ding in my door.
00:13:26Well, that's the thing.
00:13:27It's not ostentatious to the degree that you would pull in to pick up your child at the elementary school and everybody would go, ooh.
00:13:35It's not like that.
00:13:36Oh, she thinks she's all that.
00:13:37Not that.
00:13:38Okay, okay.
00:13:39It's not the seven or eight, it's the five, which is the sweet spot right in the middle there where it's like, wow, that's really sinister and kind of fast and cool, but it's not the one where you're like, ah, what an asshole.
00:13:53Anyway, my daughter is...
00:13:54is well enough versed in the world to know that some cars have some cars you can talk to the steering wheel and it will call your mom.
00:14:01Some cars have a little map that shows up.
00:14:05Some cars have, you know, the locks go on and off.
00:14:09Very high touch, but not too quirky.
00:14:11It sounds like.
00:14:12And then some cars, which is to say only one car that any friends have ever seen, have an AM radio that only gets KIXI.
00:14:21And you need to pull the lever back into the left just to get it to start.
00:14:24And so that night in December, I sat trying to get the truck to start and she was extremely dissatisfied and very frustrated with me.
00:14:36and very vocal about her frustration and she's for a long time said like get a new car and i'm like i'm yeah one day you know she's like so anyway she's mad and and i'm getting stressed out because the sun is going down and the last thing i want to do is try and get a tow truck to pie or i was in pike place market like how would you even get a tow truck down there
00:14:59I don't even believe that tow truck companies even recognize it.
00:15:05It's one of those things like the Wild Wild West robot show, where if you say Pike Place Market, they don't even know what you're talking about.
00:15:14Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:15:15Or like Dick Cheney having the Naval Observatory removed from Google Maps.
00:15:19Yes, you can't even see it.
00:15:20As they say, you can't get there from here.
00:15:22Can't get there.
00:15:22Can't get there.
00:15:23You're going to have to get your broken car somewhere different.
00:15:27So I started to do the thing anybody that has an old car does, which is, well, what happens if you hit the dashboard with your fist?
00:15:36What happens if you turn the windshield wipers on and off?
00:15:39What happens if you get out, walk?
00:15:41Oh, here's the classic one.
00:15:42Get out, open the hood, and look at the alternator.
00:15:48A lot of people think that's going to work, and sometimes it does.
00:15:50Just give a real good stare.
00:15:52Like, say, what's going on with this guy?
00:15:53Yeah, go jiggle the wires that appear to be going from the battery to other things and from the alternator on things.
00:16:00Didn't work.
00:16:01None of the things worked.
00:16:02I checked the oil.
00:16:03Didn't work.
00:16:05Sat there with her, and she is screaming bloody murder at me.
00:16:09And I'm like, look, this is not helping.
00:16:12You being mad is not helping me get this truck started.
00:16:16And eventually in the process of jiggling everything, I pulled the, the, um, the gear shift lever back and all of a sudden from, and at the time I turned to her and I said, see, your father has figured it out.
00:16:38But inside I was going, that's the most random shit I ever heard.
00:16:42And thank God I got this truck started because we were just about, uh,
00:16:46We were, we had reached like crisis level.
00:16:50So then I had a new, then the truck had a new quirk, which is like, aha, no one could ever steal this truck because you have to do three things.
00:16:59You got into the secret knock.
00:17:01But when I started, and this was just happened about a month and a half ago, I was driving along in the dark on a rural road and the headlights went off.
00:17:09Oh boy.
00:17:10And you know, like nothing, nothing was different.
00:17:14Nothing had changed.
00:17:16Steady, steady pressure on the accelerator.
00:17:18Lights off.
00:17:20I'm driving along in the dark with the lights off.
00:17:22And I was like, this is not up to code.
00:17:29And what am I going to do now?
00:17:31And so I, you know, I kind of did the thing where you...
00:17:35You turn the lights on and off.
00:17:37You pull the knob, push it in, pull it in, push it off.
00:17:40And one of the first times the truck caught on fire, it was because of the...
00:17:47This episode of Roderick Online is brought to you in part by Squarespace.
00:17:52You can learn more about Squarespace right now by visiting squarespace.com slash super train.
00:17:58My friends, what do you say about Squarespace?
00:18:01I mean, it's Squarespace.
00:18:02You can do it all.
00:18:03So many things.
00:18:04You can create a beautiful website to turn your cool idea...
00:18:07into your new home on the web.
00:18:08You can showcase your work.
00:18:10You could publish a blog or put up other kinds of content.
00:18:13You know, the galleries are beautiful.
00:18:14All kinds of things you can do with images.
00:18:17Of course, you can sell products and services of all kinds right on your very own site.
00:18:21You could promote your physical or online business.
00:18:24You can even announce an upcoming event or special project.
00:18:28Squarespace does this by giving you beautiful templates created by world-class designers
00:18:32They have powerful e-commerce functionality to sell whatever you want to sell, right online, right on your site.
00:18:38You get the ability to customize the look and feel of your site, the settings, the products, all of that, some clicks, some drags, Bob's your uncle, you got yourself a Squarespace.
00:18:46Of course, everything is optimized for mobile right out of the box.
00:18:49It looks great on every device or dingus.
00:18:51And they're offering a new way to buy domains where you can choose from over 200 domain name extensions.
00:18:57They offer analytics that help you grow in real time, built-in search engine optimization, free and secure hosting with nothing to patch or upgrade ever.
00:19:07And if you ever find yourself in a jam, don't worry about it.
00:19:09They have 24 by 7 award-winning customer support.
00:19:13As I like to say on here, you know, because it really is germane, I've been using Squarespace forever, and you're using Squarespace right now, you know, as a listener of Roderick Online, because Squarespace is where we have hosted that podcast and always will.
00:19:27They really are the best.
00:19:28So right now, please go check out squarespace.com slash supertrain.com.
00:19:32and get a free trial.
00:19:33And when you're ready to launch, you can use our offer code SuperTrain, and that will save you 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain.
00:19:43They've been such good friends to the show.
00:19:44Squarespace.com slash SuperTrain.
00:19:47Our thanks to Squarespace for supporting Roderick Online and all the great shows.
00:19:52One of the first times.
00:19:53All right.
00:19:54Because it has some aftermarket fog lights on it.
00:19:56And I turned the fog lights on, and somehow the fog lights were not...
00:20:02that it suffered a short and the fog lights cooked to the wires and the headlights went off and i had and i was in missouri i had to pull over and i actually had to get a tow at that point because i'm on the interstate in missouri you can't just drive along with your headlights off and it turned out it had cooked the wiring harness and i had to get you know i had to get a lot of it replaced just to keep on keeping on
00:20:29Well, this time, headlights go off.
00:20:31I know it's not, I don't have the fog lights on.
00:20:33I know it's not the, it's whatever, a thousand things it could be.
00:20:38But what happened, what had happened, I moved my foot.
00:20:45Now, my foot's on the carpet.
00:20:47It's not touching a button.
00:20:48It's not on the brake.
00:20:49It's my left foot.
00:20:51If you're driving an automatic transmission car, your left foot should never do anything.
00:20:56The only thing it should ever do is reach over and touch the button and
00:20:59That turns your... It's the first thing you've got to teach a youngster.
00:21:03There's two pedals in an automatic, but that doesn't mean you use two feet.
00:21:08No, you only use the one foot.
00:21:09Use your left foot for getting in and out of the car and for setting the parking brake.
00:21:13And also your high beams, if your high beams have a floor button like the 1979 GMC.
00:21:19You can also tap your foot if there's a catchy tune on KXIX.
00:21:23Well, so this is what happened.
00:21:24I moved my left foot just slightly and the headlights went back on.
00:21:29okay and i hadn't tapped the floor i didn't it's not like i stomped it i just moved it and so i drove along for a while and i was like well now that's the interesting thing and the headlights went off again and so i moved my foot over to the area which is just an area on the carpet and the headlights went back on
00:21:55And I realized, well, this is one that I could... This is something I couldn't even explain.
00:22:01I have no idea why.
00:22:02Putting my foot over there will restore the headlights.
00:22:09So since then, the headlights have only gone off a couple of times.
00:22:13And both times subsequent, I moved my foot and they went back on.
00:22:20But this was in some ways...
00:22:23the truly final straw where it felt like there will come it because this is how the the starter thing started right you mean there were several times when the truck couldn't get started and i jiggled the keys and it finally did this is a thing where i move the foot and the lights go back on but what happens the day they don't and i'm out where i'm out i'm out you know looking for abandoned gold mines or whatever and the headlights go off
00:22:53So everybody, you know, they're all rattling my cage.
00:22:57They've been doing it for four years, saying you need to buy a car.
00:23:00They've been doing it for 14 years.
00:23:02John, is it because of optics or safety or, you know, aesthetics?
00:23:07Like, is it one of those, like, you know, we don't want John to get double canceled, you know, because he flipped the car, his foot was in the wrong place.
00:23:16You mean, why do they want me to buy a car?
00:23:18Well, I mean, as an observer of this, I could say, well, you should just get a regular car.
00:23:24You're a grown man.
00:23:25But what do you think is the driving factor?
00:23:27Are they talking about this in hushed tones when you're not around or loud tones?
00:23:32What was the primary driver?
00:23:34Is this not a safe place for your kid to be?
00:23:36Or is it just like we can't have this happen?
00:23:40All of the above, right?
00:23:41I mean, there is a general kind of sense.
00:23:45I think you don't have to zoom out very far.
00:23:47to say you're a 52 year old man and you need a car to live in the world.
00:23:58You have a daughter that goes to things like, uh, used to go to things, but now increasingly we'll start going to things again, ballet and whatnot.
00:24:07And, um, and also there are things you need in the world.
00:24:13One of them is a car.
00:24:15You go to the store, uh,
00:24:17You go to your dentist appointment.
00:24:20And it's been very cute and very quaint that you have chosen an old-fashioned car.
00:24:28And you have to admit that a 1979 car is actually a 49.
00:24:35A 42-year-old car, older than something.
00:24:39Yeah, if you were in 1979, you would have been driving almost like an Auga kind of car.
00:24:43You know what I'm saying?
00:24:44If you do that little thing we do with the same amount of time, you'd be talking about a post-war automobile.
00:24:52No, you'd be talking about a 1939.
00:24:55Wait, is that right?
00:24:56You'd be talking about it.
00:24:57Oh, I dropped a decade.
00:24:58Oh, so it really might have been.
00:24:59It might have been a Stutz Bearcat.
00:25:01But something with an Ouga.
00:25:03Suicide doors, that kind of thing.
00:25:04I mean, my dad, his first car was a Model A. Whoa.
00:25:09And he would have been 16 in 1937.
00:25:15And so that's what we're talking about.
00:25:18So you've already got background social pressure for this.
00:25:21And now on top of it, you've got what I'm going to call an accumulation of quirks.
00:25:26Well, when the truck... Each on their own might not be the worst thing in the world.
00:25:30But at this point now, your car seems haunted.
00:25:32Right.
00:25:32And when it caught on fire...
00:25:37I had already, the GMC RV had caught on fire and it caught on fire outside of Mount Shasta.
00:25:45And I had my daughter, my daughter's mother slash partner and my mother in the RV with me at the time.
00:25:52And it caught on fire and we were in a place, we were in a place north of Wairika where there was no cell phone service.
00:26:01And I had to climb up to the top of the thing with my phone and call the
00:26:06triple a and we spent all day there because triple a was like we don't have a tow truck that can carry an rv and i was trying to explain to them it's not an rv it's a gmc rv and they're different they're front wheel drive you can hook it up to any big uh tow rig and they were like we don't believe you and when the guy finally got there he was like oh i mean and they had to get a special guy you know all this when he got there he was like oh it's basically like a it's basically like a
00:26:35And I said, yeah, it is.
00:26:38That's what I've been saying all day.
00:26:40But my family lost faith in me.
00:26:43They did not lose faith in me because I did get them out of there.
00:26:47But that should have been a lesson learned.
00:26:49As we were sitting next to the road with the smoke pouring out of the RV, and all of the bears came out of the forest to watch, and they were like, what happened to this guy?
00:26:59And the family was like, we're going to cower inside.
00:27:02We would cower inside the RV, except it's full of smoke.
00:27:06Yes, yes.
00:27:07So that was one of those where all of the...
00:27:10All of the commentary, the general kind of running commentary of like, you know, you and your car thing and your Vespa thing, it's all very precious and it was super cute when you –
00:27:25could just i don't know what when you could walk to the store when your truck caught on fire but we're in the more when you're a bachelor rock star bachelor rock star right well i mean that's exactly the kind of quirky thing a bachelor rock star would do but now you know that car has to be used for other things or that vehicle in general and and the fewer of your vehicles that catch on fire the less agita that's going to cause for your family and i had never purchased a car before the suburban uh
00:27:52I mean, I bought cars over the years in the sense of like, oh, somebody's selling a Volkswagen bus in the Spokane Spokesman Review for $700.
00:28:03And I have $700.
00:28:04And I'm going to drive.
00:28:05And that bus caught on fire, actually.
00:28:06And then I bought that truck, that Ford F250 that had the Chevy motor when I had to come down from Alaska because my dad's stupid camper thing caught on fire.
00:28:19Um, so it's, you know, this happens, this happens quite a bit to me, old things catching on fire.
00:28:26But then for a long time I was, you know, I, I inherited my dad's Audi, which thankfully never caught on fire, but it did stop running.
00:28:36And then I was driving that, uh, he had some Chrysler thing that I was driving and then my mom's Chrysler and, you know, I was just inheriting cars for a long time.
00:28:49So my, my family stopped thinking it was cute.
00:28:55And then my suburban caught on fire and I was on my way to pick up my daughter at her school and had to call and say, sorry, I can't make it.
00:29:04I'm on the side of the road and the truck is on fire.
00:29:07And it was just, you know, my credibility was just in the, in the tank.
00:29:10Well, this has, it's been three years since then.
00:29:14Oh boy.
00:29:15Four years.
00:29:16And I've just been limping along.
00:29:18Limping.
00:29:21Mm-hmm.
00:29:21So fine.
00:29:22And the thing is, the whole time I'm thinking like, well, like every ding-dong like me, I'm thinking like, I'm going to fix it up.
00:29:28I'm going to fix it up.
00:29:29One of these days, I'm going to fix it up.
00:29:33Wasn't ever going to fix it up.
00:29:34Or if I was going to fix it up, I mean, I would have to tear this thing down to the hubs to fix this electrical problem.
00:29:43That's what they say.
00:29:43So finally...
00:29:47i was told that i needed to buy a car oh it's escalating and i went and i was oh i'm really really really having to confront the fact that that um i suffer from tremendous indecisiveness and um and it is a and it is a real handicap
00:30:15My friend George was saying we went to a baseball game the other day and we were talking about our lives.
00:30:28He's a little older than us.
00:30:31And he was saying that he was trying to not say anything bad about himself.
00:30:45And if he caught himself in the day saying something bad, he would note it and he would say, wait a minute, that's not, uh, that's not right.
00:30:56Don't say something bad about yourself.
00:30:58And even then he was like, you know, I'm trying not to say like, that's not right.
00:31:03Cause that's also something bad.
00:31:05He's just trying to notice and try not to say anything bad about yourself.
00:31:11And, um,
00:31:13And I, as he was talking about it, I was like, I don't think I could do it.
00:31:19I don't think I could go a week and not say something bad about myself.
00:31:23It's, I think for a long time I thought it was a way I disarmed other people.
00:31:28Right.
00:31:29Like, oh, you know, don't mind me.
00:31:30I'm just a fat loser with no, who never graduated from college and can't fit.
00:31:35Sometimes I'm doing that because I'm trying to reset the bar.
00:31:38What does that mean?
00:31:40Oh, not the bar as in a K bar, but the bar as in like, it's a classic, you know, you know me, I procrastinate and I, I, I,
00:31:48But it became a way of saying, oh, yeah, yeah, I handed in that paper late.
00:31:51So, like, it's actually pretty good considering that I stayed up all night doing it.
00:31:55Yeah, yeah.
00:31:56You could say lowering the bar.
00:31:57But it's a way of saying, like, it's just funny, though, when that becomes somewhat permanent.
00:32:02Not funny, tragic.
00:32:03When it becomes somewhat permanent and you're constantly trying to sort of, I don't know if you're doing that, but in my case, it's not exactly fishing for compliments, but it's more like this is how I live with myself.
00:32:12Yeah, right.
00:32:12Oh, no, it's very much like that for me, too.
00:32:15Um, and that, that thing of like, don't expect too much.
00:32:18Cause I'm a fat loser.
00:32:21I'm a professional disappointer.
00:32:22Well, that's it.
00:32:23And, and so, but the thing is, it's become, it's, it was funny, tragic 20 years ago.
00:32:28Now it's tragic because it's all I do.
00:32:31I mean, if you ask me any question about myself, I will, I will say something disparaging.
00:32:38And George has been through a lot.
00:32:41And George is saying... This is George from the TV show?
00:32:44This is George Meyer, yeah.
00:32:46The TV show George.
00:32:49Original writer for the Letterman show.
00:32:52Big fan.
00:32:53And he's a very smart and wonderful and extremely sensitive person.
00:32:57And he's also susceptible to this kind of internal narrative.
00:33:04And he said, you know...
00:33:06I just try not to say something bad about myself.
00:33:09You say bad things about yourself all the time.
00:33:11And I said, well, it's because I'm an idiot.
00:33:13And he was like, see, see, you're doing it right now.
00:33:15You're saying something.
00:33:16Oh, I see.
00:33:17Oh, right, right, right.
00:33:19And so I said, I don't think I could do it.
00:33:20And he said, try it for a week.
00:33:22Try and go for a week without saying something bad about yourself to yourself.
00:33:26And what he said was we're used to – like what it does when you say something bad about yourself, even if you're – even if you are on top of it thinking like, oh, it's ironic or – he said your animal brain hears it as an attack and actually has an attack response to it.
00:33:48Even though it's self-inflicted.
00:33:52It hears it.
00:33:53And George isn't super woo, but this is all part of our model.
00:33:59No, no, no.
00:34:00I mean, in a different point in my life and career, I would have said that the easiest way to put this is whatever muscles you exercise are the muscles you will develop.
00:34:11Right.
00:34:11Right.
00:34:11So it's advisable to understand that that concept exists.
00:34:15It is real.
00:34:16And if you don't want the muscles that have gotten big on yourself, you need to develop something different.
00:34:22That's exactly what he's saying.
00:34:24So it's been a struggle for me even to know what constitutes something bad.
00:34:33Because I say so many bad things about myself that I can't even discern.
00:34:38It's like telling somebody to breathe different.
00:34:42Try breathing through your butt.
00:34:43You're like, well, that sounds fascinating, but that's not really historically how I've done this.
00:34:48It's a whole realignment of your self-doubt.
00:34:52Your self-image, your presentation.
00:34:55But of course, then, you know, a lot of us have that inside voice, inside the head voice talking to us.
00:34:59You got your Welsh troll, right?
00:35:01It sounds like George is trying to say, I'm putting that guy on notice.
00:35:04My Welsh troll is no longer desired here.
00:35:07I'm going to do a different thing.
00:35:08And he's doing it in a very assertive way.
00:35:10And of saying like, he's going to be the one who stops that voice by noting it and then saying, let's not do that as much.
00:35:17I think that's, I'm going to try.
00:35:19It's a very interesting exercise.
00:35:20Well, and you know, and, and he's kind of a hero to me in, in that he is, uh, you know, he's, he's, um,
00:35:27he's very sensitive, but he's also like, you know, he's an angry guy and he's tried to deal with his anger and he's tried to do all these things and he's a work in progress.
00:35:37And so he's telling me like, this is just something, you know, you, you have to learn to breathe out of your butt or whatever.
00:35:43You have to retrain yourself.
00:35:45And it's just like, Oh my God, I'm trying to retrain myself so many different ways.
00:35:48But yes, you know, this is something small.
00:35:51It feels like something you can't argue with.
00:35:5620 years ago, I would have argued with you, even 10.
00:36:00I would have said, you have to say something negative about yourself because that's the truth.
00:36:05It was the 90s.
00:36:05That's what we did.
00:36:07And also, you know, it's like, I'm interested in this idea of you kind of fighting oneself about this stuff.
00:36:16And it's sort of like, well, you can't tell me how to think about myself.
00:36:21And then you're fighting that.
00:36:23He wrote, wow, he wrote Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington.
00:36:25I love that episode.
00:36:26He wrote a lot of things.
00:36:28I am the American non-voter.
00:36:33People like this in your life, John, I'm going to say it's good for you to have people like that.
00:36:35Well, I agree.
00:36:37I agree.
00:36:38I have a lot of funny people in my life, but...
00:36:43The ones that are funny and then can switch gears, you know, and then you're like that.
00:36:47You know, you're and you can switch gears.
00:36:50No, I'm not funny.
00:36:50Oh, you're very.
00:36:52Oh, you said something.
00:36:54I did the thing.
00:36:55I did the thing.
00:36:57Yes, and yes, and so.
00:36:58So when I say that going car shopping, I'm I suffer from indecision paralysis.
00:37:06I don't know whether that's a negative thing I'm saying.
00:37:10I think that's part of it.
00:37:11But this is one of the ways in which you are like our worst friend, John Syracuse.
00:37:16In that, like, for John Syracuse, there's a very, very, very funny episode of our program we do.
00:37:22Just the entire episode is about him having to buy a replacement refrigerator.
00:37:27Mm-hmm.
00:37:28and everything that's involved when you live in that man's head, everything that's involved in that.
00:37:33And the reason I mention it here, I don't mean to take it off track, but I would say, yes, maybe you're indecisive, you're probably indecisive, but you are, related to that, a ruminator.
00:37:43You ruminate, but also you want the right one.
00:37:47And in John's case, what could be more stressful than finding out that his refrigerator broke and he doesn't have any time to do... The man hasn't bought a new TV in like 16 years because there's always a better one coming soon.
00:37:58He's always doing the research.
00:37:59He's reading the trades.
00:38:01And then the idea of like, you're in the same situation, if I may say, which is like, well...
00:38:06Now I got to go buy a car and I feel like a sucker because yes, I'm indecisive, but also I want the good one.
00:38:12You don't want to accidentally get the one that doesn't have the thing you want or you discover there's some whoopsie doopsie about it that you didn't know about.
00:38:18And then like you're fighting your own nature as a ruminator by saying like, I'm just going to go buy a car like some kind of sucker.
00:38:25It doesn't feel good or right.
00:38:27And it's the whoopsie doopsie every time that I don't want.
00:38:30I hate the whoopsie-dipsie and I do it all the time.
00:38:32I got the wrong one.
00:38:33You know, I hate it.
00:38:34I hate that too.
00:38:35And I've been – so honestly, I've been looking for a car for four years because four years ago when the car caught on fire, I was like, well, that's probably the sign.
00:38:47And somehow I limped back into life by taking it up to my mechanic and saying like how –
00:38:54Hard would it be to paste this back together?
00:38:57What I should have done is what any normal person would have done is gone to the insurance company and said, I have this thing insured and it caught on fire.
00:39:05So therefore, pay me for it.
00:39:07Car me.
00:39:08Car me.
00:39:09And what I did was go up to this wrench turner friend.
00:39:14And who said, well, this thing's never going to be the same again.
00:39:17And no matter what I do, it's just going to be a constant rats, a rat king of of of gremlins.
00:39:29You don't even know what's going to go next.
00:39:33That's what makes it feel haunted.
00:39:35The left foot thing, though, John, I think you were smart to realize that's a point where you need to... And what I haven't said about it is that the speedometer doesn't work.
00:39:48You know that.
00:39:49You know how fast you're going.
00:39:51You know how fast you're going.
00:39:52The gear shift lever no longer has an indicator, so you have to kind of just feel what gear it's in because the little pointer fell off at some point.
00:40:00This is a car that requires extensive use of the force.
00:40:04There's a lot of the force.
00:40:05It has no heater anymore or air conditioner.
00:40:09Oh, okay.
00:40:09The heater went.
00:40:10And what did you say about the windows?
00:40:11Windows don't roll?
00:40:12Windows don't roll down.
00:40:14Well, for a variety of reasons.
00:40:16So it's like the opposite of the General Lee.
00:40:19Yeah, exactly.
00:40:21But then the windshield wipers...
00:40:24are always on.
00:40:26So what I have to do... You got some real chitty-chitty bang-bang shit going on here.
00:40:34When it's not raining, I go out and I open the hood and I disconnect the windshield wiper engine, the motor for the windshield wipers.
00:40:44I disconnect it from the power.
00:40:45I pull out the little module that provides power to the windshield wipers.
00:40:50And so I drive around without windshield wipers on,
00:40:53And to everyone else, it appears normal.
00:40:55But what that is is the windshield wipers are disconnected.
00:40:58So if I'm driving and it starts to rain, I can drive for a while.
00:41:04But if it starts to be – if it starts to – if it continues to rain, let's put it that way, I have to pull over and get out now in the rain, open the hood on the side of the road and reconnect the windshield wipers hoping that –
00:41:19As your daughter scowls at you from the passenger seat.
00:41:21Just scowling and complaining.
00:41:23And the motor's running, and I'm reaching in there, and I'm working with some electrical.
00:41:28I don't know enough about it to know for sure.
00:41:30I mean, I unplugged a couple different things before I got the windshield wipers to stop, so I plugged those things back in.
00:41:38You know, I'm not some expert, and I didn't look at a diagram.
00:41:43But so in the summer, I mostly drive around with the windshield wipers unplugged.
00:41:48In the winter, I kind of leave them plugged in with the assumption it's going to be raining.
00:41:53So when you start the car, the windshield wipers are on, you know.
00:41:56You think about like, this was true at my college.
00:41:59I think this is true in a lot of like old New York apartment buildings where like you switch over.
00:42:05And you say, like, okay, now it's time to have access to heat.
00:42:08You don't just turn on the heat.
00:42:09You've got to, like, say, this whole building is going to be able to have heat now.
00:42:12And they flip the big switch, and that stays on for a while.
00:42:15And you're saying it's rainy spider season, and it's time for me to have these on.
00:42:20In the North Country, it was when you, and by that I mean Alaska, when you put your snow tires on.
00:42:27Exactly the same, yes.
00:42:28The day you put your snow tires on, and then there was a day you took them off.
00:42:31And that marked the change of seasons.
00:42:34But the indecisiveness.
00:42:38So I need a table where I can sit and eat my food and where my children can play with their toys.
00:42:45And I've been looking for a table again for two years.
00:42:53And not as bad as a couch, but not a lot better.
00:42:58And it's just a couch.
00:42:59A couch to me is the ultimate.
00:43:00I will never find the right one of these, but I can find a thousand wrong ones.
00:43:04That's right.
00:43:05So like, for example, my wife decided to surprise us with a new table.
00:43:08You know, again, I was not consulted on this as a kind of table where like when you get in there, first of all, it's around, which I find very upsetting.
00:43:16And then you couldn't fit your knees in there because like where the legs were.
00:43:21And then I just had to live.
00:43:21I just made this phase for two years.
00:43:23You know what I mean?
00:43:26You're like, this is it now.
00:43:27I'm paying to store this in a house, and I don't love it.
00:43:31And I will hate myself if I don't get a table I can love.
00:43:35We're paying to store it, and we don't live far enough out in the country that we can take it out and burn it when we're done.
00:43:40You know what I mean?
00:43:41If you live... Yeah, you know, you could just be Saturday night, let's go make a bonfire out of table.
00:43:44Let's go throw that table out there and burn it up.
00:43:46You can't do that in San Francisco.
00:43:48You need a place to eat and for your children to play with their toys.
00:43:50That's right.
00:43:51And so I continue to eat dinner every night sitting cross-legged on the floor, eating out of a plate that's on my lap.
00:43:58And I have been doing that for a long time and it's time to get a table.
00:44:01So yesterday...
00:44:03I was at the store.
00:44:04The people that run the store are people that now have become friends because I'm in the store a lot because they have tables.
00:44:16And every time I run my finger all around the table and I get down on the floor and I look at it from the bottom and I talk to them about the table and I talk to them about the table's table and the friend.
00:44:24I bet you also listen to the table.
00:44:26I bet you listen.
00:44:26You listen the same way you would listen for your passport, right?
00:44:29You say, well, I'm waiting for the table that speaks to me.
00:44:31That's right.
00:44:32And I listen.
00:44:32And that takes multiple visits.
00:44:34Again, we went through this with couches for 15 years.
00:44:36Before we finally bought one off the internet.
00:44:40But there's a thing where you're like, I want the one that's going to speak to me.
00:44:44I would go and visit albums at Vinyl Fever for half a year before deciding if I was really ready to go all in on this EP by The Alarm or whatever.
00:44:53You don't want to spend your allowance on something.
00:44:55I'm not made of money.
00:44:56Well, that's the case here.
00:44:58And so I'm at this shop.
00:45:01And they have a table, and it's the first table I've seen in a very long time that I like.
00:45:06It just is a likable table.
00:45:08And it's been refinished, but I prefer the refinish because the original finish on these tables tended to be a little green over time.
00:45:19And it's a walnut table.
00:45:21They've refinished it, and it looks nice.
00:45:22Now, let me explain that the table is part of the Broyhill Brasilia line.
00:45:30Brijal Brasilia.
00:45:32And they would sell, like we would say in Florida, like a bedroom suit or a living room suit.
00:45:37You can get a whole, like, a phalanx of related things, and they have collections, you know, like, you'll love it at Levitt's kind of thing, right?
00:45:43Exactly right.
00:45:44And the... Brijal.
00:45:46The Brasilia line was actually debuted...
00:45:55At the Seattle World's Fair in 1962.
00:45:58The devil, you say.
00:46:00And so Brasilia is a style that's based on the city of Brasilia, which was designed by the architect Oscar Niemeyer,
00:46:20and he and it's and it looks very much like future town you like like it's it's a completely completely planned capital city except unlike washington dc it's not uh greek classical it is like city of the future and so the world's fair in 1962 used a lot of these elements these kind of parabolas and and um
00:46:46And so the Broyhill Company, capitalizing on the architecture of Nehemiah and his collaborators, they designed this furniture that has these big kind of parabolas and these interesting shapes.
00:47:05And I'd never been very interested in the furniture because it had a kind of a green tint of
00:47:11And it felt a little bit, you know, I didn't like mid-century anything because it all seemed so kitschy.
00:47:18But this is also, if I could say I can't stop myself, this also becomes, I've never known what this phrase means, but it's the exception that proves the rule.
00:47:25Because you think about another indecisive thing, I'm not going to use that word anymore because I don't care for it.
00:47:30But another thing where you were deliberative in your pre-purchase vetting was your housing.
00:47:37You wanted a place that hadn't gotten all goofed up and they hadn't stripped the green off.
00:47:43Right?
00:47:43Like, ordinarily, you're like, you want that original patina.
00:47:46In this case, this is more in your wheelhouse.
00:47:48Well, and the thing about it is that a table, you're going to ruin a kitchen table anyway.
00:47:53Oh, Jesus, yes.
00:47:55Dining room.
00:47:55All the crafts.
00:47:56It's just like, come on.
00:47:57Glue gun.
00:48:00I'm going to have to strip this table a couple of times.
00:48:02So let's just stop pretending.
00:48:05Yep, yep, yep.
00:48:06And so here's this Brasilia, but because it's been refinished, it's much, much cheaper.
00:48:10You know, there's like everything that's collected by somebody there.
00:48:14You know, there's there are people that have their whole houses done in this because they also made dressers and beds and China cabinets.
00:48:19That's part of the suit.
00:48:20We call it in North Florida.
00:48:22You call it a suit.
00:48:22You get a you get a dining room suit.
00:48:24You can get the side sideboard.
00:48:26all the different things and this is this is not part did you say it's parabolic john uh well the furniture is just square because all furniture is square but it has parable designs on it oh i love that okay see so it's kind of a googly sort of um uh like you know uh that that look that look of like you know big boomerangs and stuff like that but it's a table it's not a parabolic table you'd be eating at because again that would make me crazy it's a square table but it has parabolas and the table does it have a leaf john does it have a leaf in it it's
00:48:55multiple leaves it has three shut your whore mouth this sounds amazing so I'm looking at the table and I'm like this is the first table I've seen in a long time that I like and it's very reasonably priced and I'm gonna buy this table right now this has been two years I've been looking for a table here's a table and it is affordable and I need a table because it was the other day and again my daughter is driving a lot of this we're sitting on the floor
00:49:24crisp rocks applesauce and she's like she's like i want to live in this house but i cannot i'm hearing i'm hearing a couple other voices in this voice she says i can't because it's not this house is not ready for me it's ready for you you can sit on the floor
00:49:52and eat but like she i mean she doesn't say like i have dignity because she doesn't she hasn't made those formulations yet but she's like i'll come live at this house with you when you're ready and i'm like wow okay all right okay well that cuts oh yeah yeah yeah right and you know and because i've got her bedroom here she comes over and she plays in her bedroom
00:50:16But then when it's dinner time, she's like, I would like to have dinner in a house with a table.
00:50:22So I'm ready to buy the table.
00:50:24And then the woman says, you know, it has six matching chairs.
00:50:31And I'm like, tell me more.
00:50:33And she's like, they're in the back.
00:50:35We haven't refinished them yet.
00:50:36But we took the...
00:50:40The upholstery needed to be changed, and so we took the upholstery off, and underneath the upholstery was the original upholstery.
00:50:47And the original upholstery on these chairs was like gold, and it had eagles.
00:50:52Oh, wow.
00:50:54Gold eagles.
00:50:55And so she brings the chairs.
00:50:57Is that a Brasilia theme?
00:50:58Well, I don't know about it.
00:50:59I haven't.
00:51:00So I've done.
00:51:01But I mean, nobody hates an eagle.
00:51:03Nobody hates it.
00:51:03Except for maybe like a field mouse.
00:51:05And this fabric is the type of thing that you can now buy.
00:51:10You can buy reproductions of the fabric.
00:51:12People have just a swatch of the fabric in a frame on the wall.
00:51:16It's all this.
00:51:17People love textiles.
00:51:19They really do.
00:51:19And it's beautiful.
00:51:23So she brings the chairs out.
00:51:24They haven't been refinished, but they're nice and weathered and worn.
00:51:27The original upholstery is on them and it's definitely weathered.
00:51:31It's like used.
00:51:34But the whole thing appeals to me and I'm like, oh, this is wonderful.
00:51:38And I'm just – and she's like, we haven't done anything to it.
00:51:42We haven't refinished it.
00:51:42So we'll sell you the whole thing.
00:51:45And it's extremely reasonable.
00:51:49If you go online and look for this table and chairs, you know, and this is a used thing, right?
00:51:55Even though it's collectible, if I went to a store, a regular store, and bought a dining room table that was made out of walnut and six matching chairs, it would cost three times what this thing is going to cost.
00:52:09I'll tell you one thing just in passing.
00:52:12This has been true of furniture since Christ was a corporal.
00:52:14If you went to, I don't know about a Broyhill, but if you go to any of those chains, it's crazy what even crappy furniture costs.
00:52:25It's crazy.
00:52:26It's just, it's ridiculous.
00:52:28There must be something to that, like the whole mattress store jam up.
00:52:31There must be something to the pricing in those stores that makes sense to somebody.
00:52:35But it always feels like the strangest example of like, the people who have tons of money to spend on furniture would not buy this because it's gross.
00:52:43And the people who should know better do?
00:52:45It's weird.
00:52:47I think that the people that have a lot, a lot of money do buy those things because nobody knows that, you know, it's all got veneer on it, but nowadays it's all made a particle board or.
00:52:57And it's all, you know, you go to West Elm or these places and the furniture.
00:53:01Oh, I know.
00:53:02I know.
00:53:02It's expensive.
00:53:02It's like 7,000.
00:53:04England, they call it MDF.
00:53:05We get a lot of that.
00:53:06It's just blown together sawdust.
00:53:08You know, with a price tag on MDF.
00:53:09Sickening.
00:53:10That stuff off gases.
00:53:11You know that.
00:53:12Oh, I know.
00:53:13It off-gases, it out-gases, it gases.
00:53:15It's gross.
00:53:16Oh, that'll be $1,200, sir.
00:53:19So I'm looking at this, and this is a woman at the store who has dealt with me many times where I've come in and I've touched everything in the store and then I've left.
00:53:29And her brother...
00:53:31uh is like about my age and i like him very much he's also somebody who is like a john the type who who touches everything and then leaves without buying it his sister was telling me an anecdote that he had an apartment in california one time where he lived for uh two years without a bed because he couldn't choose a bed so he just slept in a sleeping bag on the floor because he would go look for beds and i was just like you're singing my sister
00:53:58So I'm about to, I'm just, I'm, I feel so ready and I'm like, I'm going to just buy this table and chairs right now.
00:54:05I'm not going to look into it.
00:54:07I'm not going to be indecisive about it.
00:54:12And I,
00:54:12And I call my daughter over because she's over playing with some thing that she found, some space oddity.
00:54:20I would have been sitting in a rocking chair or a recliner.
00:54:23You would.
00:54:24Or I would have been touching swatches.
00:54:26But is it all used?
00:54:28It's not a Levitz.
00:54:29No, it's all.
00:54:29This is all used.
00:54:31What they do is they go, the people that run this store, they go, when somebody posts a chair on Craigslist, they go get it and they come back and they fix it.
00:54:43And then they sell it in their little store.
00:54:45Sounds cool.
00:54:46They're like used store, used things store.
00:54:50And so I say, hey, honey, come over and sit down and see what you think.
00:55:00And so she comes over, sits down in the chair, and with no ceremony goes, it's hard.
00:55:06And I said, well, you know.
00:55:07Were the purveyors of the story there when she announced this?
00:55:11We're all standing around clutching our pearls.
00:55:13And she goes, it's too hard.
00:55:16And she runs off.
00:55:18And I'm like, oh no.
00:55:20And then her mother, my daughter's mother slash partner.
00:55:27Your partner, yeah.
00:55:28She comes over and sits down in it and goes, now I had been sitting in the, I'd already spent an hour going from chair to chair sitting in them and rocking back and forth.
00:55:39And I thought they were very comfortable.
00:55:41And my daughter's mother slash partner sits down in the chair and goes, hmm.
00:55:45It's a little uncomfortable, but, but you know what?
00:55:48It's your decision, which is, you know, some kind of super code for like, Jesus Christ.
00:55:54And so I was right there.
00:55:55I was right.
00:55:56I was standing.
00:55:57My feet were over the edge and now I'm getting feedback that I cannot, I can't account for it.
00:56:04And you know, and they're, they're, they're introducing doubt, introducing doubt.
00:56:08And they walk over and sit down in a set of chairs and they're like, well, these chairs are comfortable.
00:56:12And I'm like, those chairs are $2,700 because they are Herman Miller or something.
00:56:18I don't want – like, of course they're – I mean, not even of course because a lot of that stuff is terrible to sit in.
00:56:24But –
00:56:27I was just about to buy this thing.
00:56:30And then.
00:56:31Don't tell me this put you off it.
00:56:33So I came home and I had sitting crisscross applesauce on the floor and looking at the spot where.
00:56:40Eating out of a bowl like a condemned man.
00:56:42Looking at where I wasn't even sitting in the spot.
00:56:45I was sitting across the room looking at the spot where the table and chairs would have been if I had purchased them.
00:56:55So did you experience non-buyer's regret?
00:56:59Well, I have no idea.
00:57:00I mean, that's the problem with being deliberative, as you gently put it.
00:57:07I don't know.
00:57:09I don't know.
00:57:11I look at it and I go, I don't want to get the wrong one.
00:57:14I don't want to get one where I sit down.
00:57:16You want to get the good one.
00:57:17And this is my concern with the automobiles, which I assume is what we're getting to.
00:57:21Because I've heard...
00:57:22from reading the internet and listening to the news, that now is a very fraught time.
00:57:27Because on the one hand, a lot of people have been buying or trying to buy used cars, so that stock of stuff is down.
00:57:34And then you've got the problem with the chips.
00:57:36And there's not as many new cars.
00:57:38So I've heard it's difficult and costly to buy a car in a way that it was not, say, a year ago.
00:57:43That's what I heard.
00:57:44What it seems like is that car dealers are no longer incentivized to sell used cars at a great discount.
00:57:51Because there are no new cars because of the chips.
00:57:56So they've got... And also people are buying used cars like sight unseen, like sell it to me, get me out of here.
00:58:04Oh, I know.
00:58:04It's like a tulip thing all over again.
00:58:06Like it's just put me in a Camry.
00:58:08Put me in a Camry.
00:58:11So over the course of...
00:58:13of several weeks with, um, with my, and my sister is involved in this and my mother, they're all like, you need to solve this problem.
00:58:23And then all the, and the car dealers are like, well, you know, if you don't buy it, somebody will.
00:58:27So you got any wiggle room in there?
00:58:31Let's get off my nose.
00:58:33Sorry, buddy.
00:58:34And I don't like car dealers, you know, no offense to car dealers, but I just don't, I want to just buy a thing that is the price that it is.
00:58:41I don't want to, I don't want to get into, I don't want to buy a carpet.
00:58:44I just want to get a thing.
00:58:47And so I'm dragging my family all around the city and its environs and we're test driving cars and we're all climbing in, you know, all five of us in the car.
00:59:01five adults and a kid, you know, and I'm like, how does it feel?
00:59:05How does it feel way in the back there?
00:59:06You know, drive around.
00:59:08How's the acceleration?
00:59:09Oh, it's good.
00:59:09What about the features?
00:59:10And every car has so many different
00:59:13Options.
00:59:15Mm-hmm.
00:59:15They call them trim packages.
00:59:16Trim packages, Merlin.
00:59:18Oh, my goodness.
00:59:18And there's some cases, I've learned from John Saracusa, there's some cases where there's stuff you don't want that you have to agree to to get the stuff that you do want.
00:59:25Like, if you would like, go try and find yourself, as John Saracusa has, try and find yourself a nice, fancy stick shift car.
00:59:32Uh-uh.
00:59:33If you want this, and if you want the good interior, you're going to have to get the right package.
00:59:38Because it isn't just something.
00:59:39It isn't like a salad bar.
00:59:41Which is actually a pretty good idea.
00:59:42They should do that.
00:59:43We should be able to buy cars like a salad bar.
00:59:45I don't know why they don't do that.
00:59:47Because it makes... Cable TV.
00:59:48If you want this channel, you've got to get all these other channels.
00:59:52It's a whole thing.
00:59:52And that's the worst, the cable TV thing.
00:59:55All I want is these live channels.
00:59:56I do not want the sports channel.
00:59:58I don't want any shopping...
01:00:00Anyway, the problem is that in the old days, when you bought a trim, you brought different trim packages.
01:00:08Really, the heart of those trim packages was the motor.
01:00:12And at the bottom, you had the six-cylinder motor.
01:00:16And then you had the hot it up six-cylinder.
01:00:18And then you had the small displacement V8.
01:00:20And then you had the middle one.
01:00:22And then you had the hot it up one.
01:00:23And then you had the really blown out one.
01:00:26They told John DeLorean, you can't put an engine this size into this GTO you want to make.
01:00:32Like he was upsetting the apple cart.
01:00:34He was mixing up the spreadsheets.
01:00:36They got a system for how they like to do this stuff.
01:00:39And I think the marketing, the geniuses from marketing and sales get a lot of input on these packages, which a lot of it might be based on almost nothing aside from undiagnosed personality disorders.
01:00:49Well, yeah.
01:00:50But now you got to live with that.
01:00:51Bunch of young guys in suits walking around trying.
01:00:53Bunch of hot shots.
01:00:55anyway so i'm driving around i'm going to all these places and i'm like i like this one but i wish i had that i like the one i wish it was blue i did this thing i went out to i was like okay you know what why don't we try that why don't we try the nice one we'll just test drive it see what it drives like i was never gonna buy it but let's just go so we drive out to the lincoln dealer lincoln lincoln
01:01:19The Lincoln, the Ford-based automobiles?
01:01:22Lincoln Continental.
01:01:24A, they still make Lincolns?
01:01:25Barely.
01:01:25And B, oh my God, that was my mother's dream car.
01:01:29Lincoln Continental was my mom's dream car.
01:01:30So what I was looking at was the Fords, but I was like, Lincoln's got all the things, so let's go see what the Lincoln's got.
01:01:37And I get out there, and you know, here's the other thing.
01:01:40All cars now are black, gray, or white, and I don't want a black, gray, or white car.
01:01:45I want one other option.
01:01:47Give me one other thing.
01:01:48I don't want to drive around in a black car because I look like I'm for hire.
01:01:52I don't want to drive around in a white car because I look like a real estate agent.
01:01:55I don't want to drive around in a gray car because those are the people that couldn't decide.
01:01:59That's the color of the snork.
01:02:00So I get out there and there's this Lincoln.
01:02:04And it's blue.
01:02:05And not only is it blue, but it's baby blue sparkle.
01:02:09And not only is it that, but when you open the door, the leather interior is blue with white piping.
01:02:17Is it four-door?
01:02:18Well, so it's a SUV.
01:02:21It's an SUV.
01:02:25I have a suburb.
01:02:26A sparkly blue soothe with blue interior.
01:02:32Did a pimp cancel?
01:02:34Well, that's the thing.
01:02:34The guy at the dealership says to me, yeah, are you sure you want this?
01:02:43This is kind of a basketball player's car.
01:02:47Are you kidding me?
01:02:49It's all I ever wanted.
01:02:51And he again looks dubious at me and he says, yeah, but a year from now,
01:02:59Wait, what is happening?
01:03:01Well, because he doesn't care, because he's selling cars hand over fist.
01:03:04Apparently, there's no cost to honesty in this case, because he'll get some other rube that comes along.
01:03:11It's unusual to hear that kind of candor coming from somebody who sells blue cars.
01:03:14He's got his hands in his pockets, right?
01:03:16And Seattle doesn't even have an NBA team anymore.
01:03:20What about the Supersonics?
01:03:21Well, they're gone.
01:03:22They got bought and they got sold.
01:03:23Where'd they go?
01:03:24Well, they're in Oklahoma City now.
01:03:26Oklahoma City.
01:03:27Utah Jazz.
01:03:28Give me a break.
01:03:29So the Seattle Storm is a great basketball team.
01:03:33I don't love a collective noun.
01:03:35Yeah, I agree.
01:03:37Okay, okay, okay.
01:03:39So does that buoy you a little bit, or do you think it's a twist him up where he's trying to do some Jedi Mind stuff on you?
01:03:45Oh, no, I don't think... I think that he thinks...
01:03:48You know, this guy shows up at this camp train of women who are all standing there with their arms crossed, tapping their feet, impatient.
01:03:56And I'm like a gaga over this powder blue Lincoln.
01:04:00And he's like, I don't know what I'm looking at here, but it doesn't look like a guy that's going to plop down a bag of money.
01:04:05But he lets me take it for a drive.
01:04:07And the whole time I'm just like, what kind of world do you have to live in where you get to drive a powder blue Lincoln with blue leather interior?
01:04:16A blessed life.
01:04:18And it's just like in the stereo.
01:04:20You need this car, John.
01:04:21Was the board of directors in there with you tapping their foot in the Lincoln?
01:04:27The thing is the Lincoln had everything.
01:04:30And a lot of the things were – Can you give me an idea of roughly how old this car is?
01:04:34Oh, this was a new car.
01:04:35This was a thing.
01:04:36I was going to – Sean, you looked at a new automobile?
01:04:38I was going to drive it just to see what it was like.
01:04:43Because what I needed was a benchmark, the high benchmark –
01:04:47Then everything else I could measure against this.
01:04:51I get it.
01:04:52I get it.
01:04:52It falls in this, as they say, a spectrum.
01:04:54You know, you're the kind of guy that walks into a store and you're going to touch a lot of furniture.
01:04:57It doesn't mean you're going to write a check.
01:04:58In this case, you're resetting the car bar.
01:05:01Resetting the car bar.
01:05:02That's exactly what I was doing.
01:05:03And the problem was this vehicle knew with all the things because it had a heads-up display and it had a thing where if you talked to the brakes, they would talk back to you.
01:05:14And it was $110,000.
01:05:17And the guy was looking at – How much?
01:05:25$110,000.
01:05:26The guy was looking at – Huh.
01:05:28I better come with a basketball player.
01:05:30He was like, you know, Filson jacket, sure.
01:05:32You know, like those cost $300 if you buy them – if you're not on the Filson pro team.
01:05:37But those are not the people that buy powder blue Lincoln cigarettes.
01:05:40Oh, I see.
01:05:41He's doing a little bit of a fight club on you.
01:05:42He's kind of looking you up and down, and there's going to be price tags on everything.
01:05:45He was like, the person that buys this truck comes in and doesn't even need to test drive it.
01:05:50They just put down a bag of money because of whatever.
01:05:54They're not comparison shopping because there's no comparison to this.
01:06:01Yeah, see, I would have, if you, you know, asked, I would have guessed, and this just shows you so many things about me.
01:06:08I would have guessed, and thinking I was out of my mind, $35,000.
01:06:11Yeah, I know.
01:06:13That shows you what I know.
01:06:14I know, I know.
01:06:15That seems like a lot of money for an American car.
01:06:17Well, and that's the thing.
01:06:19But the thing is that...
01:06:21Either American cars are a lot better than they were in the early 1980s, which I think is true.
01:06:27Hard not to.
01:06:28And also European cars are not as good, or the gulf between American and European and Japanese cars is not so wide anymore.
01:06:36It is said, you know, we're a long time from the days of Fix It Again, Tony.
01:06:40Fix to repair daily.
01:06:41That's right.
01:06:42Which is a little redundant, but that's okay.
01:06:45But I've heard it said that, like, you know, almost all the cars you get today are going to be mostly pretty good and reliable.
01:06:50Yeah, they're all pretty good and reliable.
01:06:53Used to be you could only really say that for a time.
01:06:55You could really only say that about Toyotas, maybe VWs.
01:06:59Well, and VWs are all cheaters now and everything's made out of plastic and the whole world.
01:07:03I get it.
01:07:04I get it.
01:07:05But so I drove this powder blue Lincoln and then I was in trouble because I was like, well, there's no other car that's powder blue.
01:07:11You can't get powder blue anything.
01:07:13Oh, the bar reset you.
01:07:15And I'm looking.
01:07:17I can only afford a used vehicle, or at least that is the standard for me, because how the hell are you going to pay more than, as you're saying?
01:07:26Yeah, like, do you want to be looking down the barrel of a what?
01:07:29My car payment in 1991 was $263 a month.
01:07:34which is a lot more money than I want it to spend.
01:07:37I'm going to guess if you can get financing on a $100,000-plus car, I mean, that's going to be hundreds of dollars a month.
01:07:44Well, yeah, it's going to be thousands, or it's going to be at least $1,800 a month.
01:07:51Thanks for nothing, big basketball.
01:07:52It's more than rent.
01:07:53That's ridiculous.
01:07:55So, of course, I'm not going to do that.
01:07:57So then I've got the high bar and then I'm test driving other things and I'm like, well, this one isn't as good as the Lincoln.
01:08:02But there were a few that were like, oh, yeah, this is fine.
01:08:04But this car is black.
01:08:06I don't want that.
01:08:06This car is white.
01:08:07I don't want that.
01:08:08Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:08:09And then so one day...
01:08:11I've got this list of things and I don't want to be doing this either.
01:08:15I'm not somebody that's like, I love test.
01:08:17You never want to do this in the first place.
01:08:19So I'm standing there.
01:08:21It's a day.
01:08:21It's just a day like any other day.
01:08:25And the word comes down from on high, which is to say the the, you know, the coven that runs my existence.
01:08:35The word comes down.
01:08:35You're buying a car today.
01:08:38Oh, boy.
01:08:38And I'm like, I'm not ready to buy a car.
01:08:42And they're like, you've been looking for this car for weeks.
01:08:45Oh, that seems extremely arbitrary.
01:08:46You've been looking for this car for four years.
01:08:49And you know what you want.
01:08:52You've narrowed it down.
01:08:55And so having narrowed... I can feel my blood pressure going up right now.
01:08:59Right.
01:09:00And I'm like, but there are all the options.
01:09:01What about this package?
01:09:02What about that?
01:09:03You know, I know I want this, but I don't want that.
01:09:06They're like...
01:09:07We're done.
01:09:07You're done.
01:09:09They can see you coming with their glasses off.
01:09:11Here he comes.
01:09:12Here comes Mr. Buy a Car.
01:09:14They're like, you're buying a car today.
01:09:17And so I'm like, uh, uh, uh, uh.
01:09:20And I called a dealership where I was like, okay, there's one that's intriguing.
01:09:24I'll call them and I'll come up and I'll buy it.
01:09:28I called the dealer and they're like, we sold that car two hours ago.
01:09:31Jesus Christ.
01:09:33Okay, okay, okay.
01:09:33The noose is tightening.
01:09:34I can't buy a car because that's the one I wanted, it turns out.
01:09:38And they sold it.
01:09:40And the coven that runs my life said, well, if you wanted it, you would have bought it yesterday.
01:09:44So there's another one.
01:09:45And you're going to buy a car today.
01:09:47And I was like, okay.
01:09:48You got a real coalition of problem solvers there, huh?
01:09:51Well, they're just like, you know, is your issue over deliberation, let's just say?
01:09:58If we're not going to speak negatively about ourselves, then we're going to solve that for you by making the decision that there's a hard line.
01:10:07That's like telling somebody who has a fear of heights they've got to get in the plane and jump.
01:10:11That's what it is.
01:10:12Here, why don't you eat a bag of spiders, you know?
01:10:15And so...
01:10:18So I drive up.
01:10:22Sorry, just real quick.
01:10:23I have to leave soon.
01:10:25What car did y'all drive to get to where you're going to look at a car for this particular day?
01:10:31We drove the Sinister car.
01:10:33You took Johnny 79.
01:10:36No, no, no, we didn't do that.
01:10:38Oh, you took her sinister car, your partner car.
01:10:40And the thing is, all the dealers always ask me, you got to trade in?
01:10:44And I was like, you want a 79 GMC three-quarter ton Suburban that you need to put your foot on the thing?
01:10:50Gets AM, gets AM, pretty good, this one station.
01:10:52Pull back and to the left.
01:10:54What's my trade in on that?
01:10:56So I was just like, no, no, no, let's not get... But so we go to this place...
01:11:01And it's, like, a used car lot, and they specialize in, like, herpaderp four-weekers.
01:11:10And this car is kind of an anomaly on the lot because it's not derped up.
01:11:16It doesn't have a, you know, there's... Oh, it's the equivalent of the Charlie Brown Christmas tree?
01:11:23Well, no, I mean, it's, yeah, but it's... But it's got no derp, and you don't, derp is something you don't like.
01:11:28I'm not looking for derp.
01:11:29I got enough, you know, I got enough derp.
01:11:31Oh, no, I know.
01:11:33This is just a car, and the problem is it's gray, but it is a, it's one of the cool colors of gray.
01:11:39It's like a,
01:11:40It's like a gunmetal gray instead of just like a bleh gray.
01:11:44It's an attractive looking vehicle.
01:11:47I get there and I drive it and it drives well.
01:11:52And it has a trim package that I was not.
01:11:55Aware of I wasn't focused on I was like I was looking at all these trim packages were like, oh, do you want loafers to go with it?
01:12:03You know, this one has serious radio and this one and so I all the trim sometimes I want to say like a sports edition and this was something else never seen the trim I didn't understand what the trim package was I think I'd seen it but I didn't know what it was and I was standing there and it was seven o'clock at night and the dealership closes at seven and I get an elbow in the ribs and
01:12:26that says buy it and i'm like buy it and it's like buy it and and there are people there are tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of people who have bought a car there are dare i say a million or more people who have bought a car merlin
01:12:51And a lot of them just see a car that they like and they go buy it.
01:12:55I know that because I see these cars on the road and I'm like, who would buy that?
01:12:59Apparently, lots of people went in and they bought it.
01:13:02They saw it and they bought it.
01:13:05And so there's not very much sympathy for me past the four-year line.
01:13:12Where it's like other people go buy cars.
01:13:14They buy them all the time.
01:13:15They buy them brand new.
01:13:16They buy cars.
01:13:18Cars are not hard to buy.
01:13:19You go in and you buy it.
01:13:20These people want to sell it to you.
01:13:22Buy this car.
01:13:23And so I bought it.
01:13:26And it was awful.
01:13:28I sat in a chair where a guy with like his hair, like a too short haircut and a polo shirt was like, how much are you willing to pay?
01:13:38You know, all that kind of stuff.
01:13:41And I was like, I don't want to deal with you.
01:13:42I don't want to talk to you.
01:13:43I don't want to make small talk with you.
01:13:45I don't want you to give me a deal because I know it's not a deal.
01:13:48I don't want you to act like you're helping me because I know you're not trying to help me.
01:13:52just just the the kindest thing that guy could do or gal or whomever is to just make it quick just make this quick make it quick yeah i mean like like don't yeah you can just skip all the niceties just just screw me in the minimal way possible and please let me just get on with what's left of my life and it wasn't quick you know uh the talk about financing options all of that and at a certain point the ladies were like well it looks like you got it well in hand and they got in the car and left
01:14:19They got it.
01:14:21And they left me in this.
01:14:22And then the dealership turned out the lights.
01:14:25And so I was sitting in a cubicle at the back of the dealership with the finance guy.
01:14:31Everybody else was gone.
01:14:33And the lights on the parking lot were off.
01:14:37I couldn't even see the truck anymore.
01:14:40And this guy's like, my job is to get you the best possible rate.
01:14:44And I was like, I know that's not your job.
01:14:46No, it's not your job.
01:14:47I know what your job is, but it's not that.
01:14:48Just let me out of here, please.
01:14:50And so I drove this car.
01:14:53And the next day, everybody was like, aren't you excited?
01:14:56Oh, wow, you got a new car.
01:14:58Aren't you excited?
01:14:59And it's not a new car.
01:15:00It's a used car.
01:15:01And I wasn't, I was like, I bought this and I thought I, and maybe I did the wrong thing.
01:15:07Maybe this isn't the one I wanted.
01:15:08Maybe this isn't the blah.
01:15:10Maybe I don't.
01:15:11And so I had that terrible experience that, that people that know me are baffled by, which is that something exciting happened to me.
01:15:20And I'm like, eh.
01:15:23I know.
01:15:23I know that noise.
01:15:24Believe me.
01:15:25And it took me about a week to,
01:15:27And what I did was I looked at the trim package.
01:15:33I went online and I was like, I bought this thing.
01:15:34I should know what it is.
01:15:36Oh, John.
01:15:37After you've already taken possession, you've driven it off the lot.
01:15:41It's too late.
01:15:42That's when you're going to find out what it does?
01:15:44That's right.
01:15:44It's too late for me.
01:15:45And it's just like...
01:15:48It's just like every time I, you know, these days, I don't want to see anything on the internet that has my name on it.
01:15:54You know, if I have to look at something, I touch the finger very gently to the thing.
01:15:59Like at the first sign that it's like, John Roderick, AKA, I'm just like, I'm out.
01:16:06But I go on and I'm waiting to read the review where they're like, this trim package is garbage.
01:16:12It's not worth the money.
01:16:13Well, it turned out that the trim package is this... It's not a trim package.
01:16:19It's an option package that you get all this stuff that I think is cool.
01:16:28It's fantastic.
01:16:31I mean, I don't love the way that it went about and you found out about it, but what a relief.
01:16:35What kind of stuff?
01:16:36Well, so it is... So Ford...
01:16:41making these SUVs, there were enough people who were like you were describing before that was like, why can't we put this package on that thing?
01:16:54That eventually somebody at Ford was like, okay.
01:16:57And what it was was all the off-roaders who were driving around in jacked up Herpa Dirt pickup trucks were like, why can't we have the Herpa Dirt package on this SUV?
01:17:10Right.
01:17:11Oh, the boys in sales hear something like that.
01:17:14And they say, you know, make this thing happen.
01:17:18Get the herpaderp on the climber boy and then blend those, right?
01:17:22I would think that's what they would do, but most of the time they're like, well, our customers don't know what they want.
01:17:27We're going to give them seven different kinds of satellite nav.
01:17:32And so what this thing has on it, this is, for those listening at home, it has the FX4 package, Merlin.
01:17:41The FX4 is the off-road equipment package on the SUV.
01:17:49Most of the packages on the SUV are like, how many in-back-of-seat television screens do you want?
01:17:56And this has got limited slip differential and jacked up shocks.
01:18:02You're practically a first responder.
01:18:04It's got a big radiator.
01:18:06Cop shocks, cop brakes, right?
01:18:08It's got skid plates.
01:18:09It's got a tow package.
01:18:11It's got all this stuff.
01:18:13And it wasn't even an option package I was aware of.
01:18:16And all of a sudden, I'm driving the coolest one of these.
01:18:22From the standpoint of somebody like me, who wants a bunch of stuff that is not just televisions, but is real.
01:18:33You don't need a chocolate fountain or something.
01:18:35If you're going to get the rugged vehicle, it's nice if it actually does rugged things.
01:18:40Well, because a lot of those cars, people buy them because I like to sit up high or whatever.
01:18:44It's like, yeah, but it's a toy.
01:18:45Think about the Ford Explorers back in the 90s and 2000s where it's like, yeah, it's fine as long as you don't go off.
01:18:53You're going to flip.
01:18:54It's not made to do any of the stuff it looks like it's supposed to do.
01:18:58It would be like buying a hammer that breaks the first time you hit a nail.
01:19:00And this is the opposite.
01:19:02Opposite of that.
01:19:03One of the problems is all these trucks have the same engine.
01:19:06All the way up to the Lincoln.
01:19:08The basketball player Lincoln and the entry-level model Ford, they all have the exact same engine because nobody – there's not 10 engines anymore like there were in 1971.
01:19:20There's just the one.
01:19:22And so the difference between all these – and one of the cars sells for $50,000 and one of them sells for $110,000.
01:19:28They all have the same engine.
01:19:31So the package differences are like, does it have blue leather or not?
01:19:34But this truck that I accidentally bought has all this like rough and tough stuff that I'll probably never use, except I will.
01:19:45Except I'll drive this up logging roads.
01:19:48I'll do wheelies in it.
01:19:49I'll stand it up in a sand dune.
01:19:51I'll do all that stuff.
01:19:54And so I accidentally on purpose ended up getting a thing that now after a week of driving it,
01:20:03When I get in, I'm kind of like, hmm, well, you know, FX4.
01:20:09What do you say about that?
01:20:10And it's very subtle.
01:20:11It's got this little badge.
01:20:12It doesn't have a bunch of graphics on the side.
01:20:16Oh, my God.
01:20:17How did you luck?
01:20:18Aren't you anxious about how you lucked out?
01:20:21Oh, yeah.
01:20:21I now feel anxious about how it turned out kind of okay.
01:20:24Well, I am.
01:20:25I'm a little anxious, and I don't— I'm anxious, and I don't even like cars.
01:20:28So I have to take it into the dealer because it's at—
01:20:32It has a mileage that's now like, well, you're at this mileage, so you got to get serviced.
01:20:37Like the mileage service, like you get it serviced at whatever.
01:20:41Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it.
01:20:43And so, but what they told me at the place that sold it was they're like,
01:20:48Look, this was just something that the dealer drove, like some manager at a dealership drove this around and then handed it off to his friend.
01:20:56And it's only had one owner, but it was a dealership that owned it.
01:21:00And when I went on the little screen, it had like 42 different people's cell phones saved in the – it was just like every – Oh, right.
01:21:10And I had driven this thing.
01:21:11So I'm anxious because I'm going to take it into the dealer – the new dealer –
01:21:17to get it serviced and say, has this thing been thrashed?
01:21:20Cause I'm not sure if it's thrashed.
01:21:21Like if it was me, I would thrash it.
01:21:24It's a, it's a, but it's, but it's off road or, but anyway, so I think I dodged a bullet because I have a car now that doesn't at least so far catch on fire.
01:21:39And it has a very subtle little badge on it that differentiates it from all the other ones that are just like,
01:21:46Right.
01:21:46Different levels of television.
01:21:49Yeah, yeah.
01:21:51And it's like I go out and I get in it and the windows roll up and down.
01:21:55Do you worry that this is going to cause your coven to just move on to another thing to bug you about?
01:22:01Do you get any relief from this?
01:22:02Do you get any credit from this?
01:22:05Well, they immediately moved on to telling me that the table, that the Broyhill Brasilia chairs weren't comfortable on their precious little bottoms.
01:22:15I gotta go.
01:22:20I gotta go get my drain snaked, if you know what I mean.

Ep. 425: "The Car Bar"

00:00:00 / --:--:--