Ep. 311: “Friend Mode”

Episode 311 • Released October 29, 2018 • Speakers not detected

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00:00:06Hello.
00:00:07Hi, John.
00:00:10Hi, Merlin.
00:00:11How's it going?
00:00:13How are you?
00:00:14I'm really good.
00:00:16That's good.
00:00:21Trying to take a temperature on the room right now.
00:00:25Uh-huh.
00:00:25You sound, um, subdued.
00:00:29A little subdued?
00:00:31A little subdued.
00:00:34uh-huh yeah i'm i'm the same amount of dude yeah big dude wearing a hat yeah yes i well i had a hat on until moments ago you can't wear you shouldn't wear a hat with your cans no no no don't wear a hat with the cans you think sinatra would do that today you think sinatra would still wear a hat when he records well sinatra had the hat on and then didn't he he held a can up to one ear that was the style oh god he didn't want to take your hat off he had your cigarette in one hand your
00:01:03One can in the other.
00:01:05My mom said the other day, these are the kind of little glimpses into the past that I love.
00:01:20You know I love those glimpses of the past.
00:01:23They're the best.
00:01:25But she said, you know, in their time, like now you look at the Rat Pack and you think, oh, they're swabs, 60s icons.
00:01:36But she said at the time, they were such sleazeballs.
00:01:40They were like...
00:01:42They were borderline gangsters.
00:01:48They were reviled by any good upstanding citizen.
00:01:58They were considered just like...
00:02:00sleazebags making sleazy music for sleazy people.
00:02:05My goodness.
00:02:06And I was like, really?
00:02:08And she said, oh, Sinatra, Dean Martin?
00:02:11She said, Dean Martin, Dean Martin left his wife and six kids in the lurch, never looked back when he got an opportunity, and all those guys.
00:02:22She said the only one with any class was Sammy Davis Jr.
00:02:25The rest of them were just like, you know, gangster-adjacent,
00:02:31Like, basically, you know, I mean, if they could wear, if they could have worn gold, if they could have worn gold grills, they would have.
00:02:43Take a pause, take a pause, take a pause.
00:02:46Are you far away from your Wi-Fi?
00:02:48Or is anything different?
00:02:49You sound really crunchy.
00:02:52Oh, crunchy.
00:02:53Are you downloading torrents or anything?
00:02:56Well, unfortunately, I...
00:03:00Google talked me into putting my computer on the wall.
00:03:13Can you blink your eyes?
00:03:14Are you under duress right now?
00:03:17It sounds a little bit like when the guys in Korea gave the finger to the photo.
00:03:22It sounds like you might be.
00:03:24Blink twice.
00:03:25Steve Ballmer is sitting here in my office, and I really love, I put my number into Skype so Microsoft knows that I can verify my account.
00:03:37Mm-hmm.
00:03:39Right now, I know Google is telling me that I have synced 30,722 of 49,504 things that it's trying to sync.
00:03:52Oh, okay.
00:03:53I think I know the problem.
00:03:55I've used 73 gigabytes of 100 gigabytes used, and then it conveniently offers me the option of upgrading.
00:04:03John, are you sticking to the cloud?
00:04:05I'm syncing to the cloud, and I'm not sure why, but someone offered me a Google.
00:04:13A Google popped up.
00:04:14Okay, okay.
00:04:15And said, beep, boop, beep.
00:04:17Okay, I'm leaving all this in.
00:04:18This is good, and this is important.
00:04:20Google Photos can be a very good thing.
00:04:22I like the Google Photos, and you need to run their dumb sync dingus in order to do that, and it takes a good long while.
00:04:29But here's the sync dingus problem.
00:04:31Is it something you could maybe turn off until we're done?
00:04:34Well, I don't know.
00:04:35How do I do it?
00:04:36I am looking at the thing.
00:04:37How do I do it?
00:04:38It says here seconds.
00:04:39Okay, is it up in your menu bar?
00:04:41Oh, wait.
00:04:42Pause.
00:04:42Yeah, you can go ahead and quit and turn it back on.
00:04:44Will pause work?
00:04:45Pause can work.
00:04:46See, now I'm a podcast veteran, so I turn off all of the bandwidth sucking things.
00:04:52So you say quit back up?
00:04:54You say quit backup and sync is what you would click on?
00:04:58I would, yeah.
00:04:59And sometimes you get a notification right over that little three dot dingus.
00:05:03It's really annoying.
00:05:05Here we go.
00:05:05Try it.
00:05:06Ready?
00:05:06Yeah, I'm ready.
00:05:07I'm ready.
00:05:10Bandwidth.
00:05:12Good morning.
00:05:14how's that?
00:05:16Now you live in the cloud.
00:05:18Uh, I think it sounds fine.
00:05:20It's good.
00:05:21Better.
00:05:21Not, not as good.
00:05:22Oh no.
00:05:23It sounds fine.
00:05:23It sounds fine.
00:05:24You know, it's, it's hard cause you're not, it's a lot to ask.
00:05:26You're not plugged into ethernet.
00:05:28Are you?
00:05:29Oh, yes.
00:05:31Oh, yeah.
00:05:35Oh, it's already a classic.
00:05:39I can feel it already.
00:05:41I'm plugged straight in.
00:05:43I'm hotline and I'm main hot.
00:05:45Oh, you're hotboxing with the Google?
00:05:47I'm hotboxing the Googs.
00:05:49It's all happening.
00:05:51So I had my old computer.
00:05:53You sound better.
00:05:53Thank you.
00:05:54Oh, that's so good.
00:05:54I'm glad.
00:05:55The one now, was it Mike Squires traded you for like a stomp box or something?
00:05:59No, the older one, the one from before that that I bought used in like 2005 from Anna Banana.
00:06:08Anna Banana was buying a new computer and so she sold me her old computer.
00:06:12Anna Banana.
00:06:14And that was the one that I used for all of the podcasting because I got it in 2006.
00:06:21It was probably a 2002, maybe 2003.
00:06:27And a banana had a reason to get rid of it.
00:06:29Well, and a banana was upgrading.
00:06:32um and so i got it and i used it for all of the great shows uh-huh uh-huh uh and then it was the one that i took down to my new office when i got that office back in 2000 whenever that's the one where you could hear the seabirds it's the seabird computer and then this was the computer that i did you know all my campaign on and all that stuff and etc etc and it had all the things on it yes
00:06:58And then it started – then I refused to upgrade the operating system for obvious reasons.
00:07:03And so then as time slowed down – I'll tell you when it's time to upgrade.
00:07:10There were a couple of times when I said that on air and you were like, don't say that because you're exposing your voice.
00:07:16You're going to get an email.
00:07:18People are going to get – and Matt Howey sent me something.
00:07:21Oh, dear.
00:07:21Don't do that.
00:07:22Because of the vulnerabilities.
00:07:24They'll hack you because they know your vulnerabilities.
00:07:27Oh, I see.
00:07:29But anyway, so I didn't upgrade the operating system for so long that then all of a sudden the other –
00:07:36things, the Goog and the other things, started to say, well, we're no longer going to be able to service you.
00:07:45You could no longer be serviced.
00:07:47Couldn't be serviced.
00:07:48So, like, Flash...
00:07:50there was no longer a way to upgrade flash because it couldn't the new flash couldn't handle the old flash you couldn't play like fruit collection games or no audio from 1999 or anything no when i went on websites their pop-up advertisements wouldn't play because i don't know yeah i know it was really depressing you denied the full experience i really was so i didn't mind not having flash but then other things like what what were the things oh dropbox
00:08:20wouldn't drop.
00:08:24It wouldn't drop.
00:08:24It hotboxed me.
00:08:27That's what they do.
00:08:28They hotbox you into a corner.
00:08:29Yeah, there were all these things that wouldn't work anymore.
00:08:31Pretty soon, I just couldn't interact with anything.
00:08:35And then I had gone across the threshold where upgrading, like it certainly couldn't take the new operating system.
00:08:42Oh, because of the age of the hardware from Anna Banana.
00:08:44Yeah, the age of the hardware.
00:08:46Mm-hmm.
00:08:46That was when Jason Finn traded me this computer for a bag, for like a messenger bag.
00:08:53Yeah, you got Jack and the Beanstalked a little bit, didn't you?
00:08:56From which side?
00:08:58Well, I mean, you know, at first, in the first act of the story, I don't want to take a eye for story.
00:09:02I want to hear more about Anna Banana, whoever that is.
00:09:03But there's like a traveling salesman who trades, if memory serves, he trades Jack a perfectly good, he takes Jack's perfectly good cow and gives him, if memory serves, a bag of beans.
00:09:18Beans, yes.
00:09:20So, except in this case, he got a really nice bag of beans and you got stuck with a morbid cow.
00:09:25Oh, no.
00:09:25Well, what the reason that that deal was bad was that he said, buy me a steak dinner for the computer.
00:09:33Right.
00:09:34And I was like, no problem.
00:09:36So we went to a nice restaurant and then I sprung the bag on him.
00:09:40Oh, which I should have just said bag for computer because he would have given me three computers for that bag.
00:09:47No, see, the thing about the bag is it has no street value.
00:09:51Except in a very, very small group of people.
00:09:55So KEXP, 90.3 KEXP, the famous Seattle radio station.
00:10:01Very good station.
00:10:01That invented indie rock.
00:10:04Mm-hmm.
00:10:05And I know those KCRW people might argue.
00:10:09But KCRW can kiss my ass.
00:10:11There, I said it.
00:10:12Morning becomes erectic.
00:10:16It's not even a word.
00:10:18It's not even a word.
00:10:20It's not even a joke.
00:10:21It's what my daughter used to say.
00:10:22I tell her jokes.
00:10:23She said, that's not funny.
00:10:23It's not even a joke.
00:10:25Shut up.
00:10:26I'm not paying for your college.
00:10:27Piece of shit.
00:10:28Marlo has started to sit at the table and, you know.
00:10:31They get sassy, John.
00:10:31They get so sassy.
00:10:33There's a lull in conversation.
00:10:34She goes, I want to hear a peanuts joke.
00:10:37I'm like, yeah.
00:10:39And so then she, like, she kid explains a peanut.
00:10:44Oh, strip, sure.
00:10:46Charlie Brown's walking down the street, right?
00:10:50She interprets it.
00:10:51Yeah, and then she's like, do you know who Schroeder is?
00:10:53And I'm like, I do.
00:10:54I have more Schroeders than you have on dinners.
00:10:58But she only has the really old Charlie Brown, so she's like, do you know who Violet is?
00:11:02I'm like, yeah, I know who Violet is.
00:11:04Violet has like a ponytail, right?
00:11:06Yeah, she's a dark-haired girl.
00:11:08Violet says, hey, Charlie Brown, do you want to come over to my house to play?
00:11:13Mm-hmm.
00:11:14Charlie Brown says, no, I don't, because every time I come over, you get mad, and then you send me home.
00:11:22And she said, well, why don't we play at your house?
00:11:26That way, when I get mad, you'll already be home.
00:11:29That's pretty good.
00:11:30And then, you know, and then she just, like, she gives me the mic drop face.
00:11:35And I'm like.
00:11:35Deal with that.
00:11:37Deal with this.
00:11:38Kapow.
00:11:39And then, you know, she's like, you want to hear a Garfield joke?
00:11:41Oh, boy.
00:11:42I'm like, tell me a Garfield joke.
00:11:44It's like, okay, do you know who Lyman is?
00:11:47I'm like, yeah, I know who Lyman is.
00:11:49All right, Lyman and John are standing.
00:11:52This is not Nermal?
00:11:55Lyman owns Nermal.
00:11:57Oh, okay.
00:11:58Oh, no, I'm sorry.
00:11:59Lyman owns Odie.
00:12:01Nermal is visiting Garfield.
00:12:06Right?
00:12:07Lyman has a mustache.
00:12:09Odie is John's dog?
00:12:11Odie is Lyman's dog.
00:12:13It's Lyman.
00:12:14Lyman has a mustache.
00:12:16Lyman is John's friend or brother.
00:12:19Garfield Lyman.
00:12:21Lyman.
00:12:22L-Y-M-O-N.
00:12:23Or M-A-N, maybe.
00:12:25All right.
00:12:27Anyway, the bag.
00:12:30Was, you know, KEXP is one of these.
00:12:32It's like it's like maximum fun.
00:12:35Like a public radio thing.
00:12:37You get swag when you contribute.
00:12:39Right.
00:12:40And so they gave away these messenger bags and they were not good.
00:12:45messenger bag yeah that's that's that's a problem there's too many substandard bags being proffered in exchange for charity and it's no good this is one of those yes and i think what it was made to do honestly is um it's about this it's maybe exactly the size of a 12 inch record and you could put 10 lps in it and so it's like maybe it's designed as a dj bag okay
00:13:14So you just throw your 10 hottest copies of Purple Rain or whatever in there.
00:13:21Maybe you could put 15 LPs.
00:13:24Maybe not.
00:13:25So that's all it's good for.
00:13:27It doesn't have a pocket for your keys.
00:13:29Because you need to walk around with your LPs.
00:13:32Yeah, that's right.
00:13:33Take all the labels off so people don't know what you're sampling from.
00:13:41They gave these away at like the top donor level, these bags.
00:13:45And they were bright orange and they said KEXP on them.
00:13:50So at the time, like I did a couple of pledge drives where I sat and like called people on the – or answered the phone.
00:13:55People would call like, I'd like to donate some money.
00:13:58And I'm like, hey, how's it going?
00:13:59And they're like, is this John Roderick?
00:14:01And I'm like, sure.
00:14:02Are you the guy from Not A Serve?
00:14:05Thanks.
00:14:05Sure is.
00:14:06How can I take your credit card information?
00:14:08Uh, and so, but you know, they used to, you know, they'd give that swag out to, uh, to, to rock musicians and everybody loved that bag because it was so, it was, it was iconic of a time.
00:14:202003, 2002.
00:14:25Everybody wore their bags out.
00:14:26Jason Finn used his, it was his style.
00:14:29God, it was his like signature bag.
00:14:33Anyway, I found a mint one in my collection and I traded it to him for this computer.
00:14:38This computer that he gave me is, I know this is going to be revealing some vulnerabilities here.
00:14:48But it is a late 2012 iMac.
00:14:57Well, so this is what I got for the steak dinner slash also for the bag.
00:15:02I should have gotten a computer from 2016 for that bag.
00:15:05Yeah, yeah.
00:15:07Just in terms of the economics of it, it's something he really wanted.
00:15:10Yeah, I just wanted to give it to him, frankly.
00:15:12I just wanted to see his shining coat and his tail wag.
00:15:18A little wet nose.
00:15:19A little wet nose.
00:15:23Anyway, so the other day, here I was, sitting at the house, and the computer started to say, upgrade my operating system.
00:15:32And I said, no.
00:15:34Leave it.
00:15:35Leave it.
00:15:36The computer would not.
00:15:37This is my computer.
00:15:39This is my, that's right.
00:15:40This is my, you're in my house.
00:15:42And the computer said.
00:15:43You're here at his majesty's pleasure.
00:15:46Mm-hmm.
00:15:46Computer said, I'm connected to the internet.
00:15:50That means it is not your house.
00:15:53It is our house.
00:15:55And I said, who's our?
00:15:56And they were like, don't worry your pretty little head about that.
00:15:59Upgrade my operating system.
00:16:01Oh, no.
00:16:01And I said, I don't want to.
00:16:03Mm-hmm.
00:16:04But it wouldn't relent.
00:16:07And so I went online and I said, can you upgrade the operating system of a late 2012 Mac?
00:16:17And the online said, yes.
00:16:24I bet there's an asterisk on there somewhere.
00:16:26That is the earliest computer that will accept Mojave version 10.14.
00:16:35And I said, are you sure about this?
00:16:38The internet?
00:16:40And the internet said, abso-fucking-lutely.
00:16:44And I said to the computer, you're not, this isn't one of those.
00:16:47You're not...
00:16:50you're not gonna this isn't one of those no well you ask online i mean yeah and the computer was like online can't lie it's fine it's fine it's 2012 come on it's fine come on let's do it just do it was it was it was a particularly i'm trying to find this it was a particularly squarish on the sides or was it slightly tapered on the sides where it was like fat in the middle of the back
00:17:12That's how it is.
00:17:14It's fat in the back.
00:17:15My anaconda don't want none.
00:17:17It's got fat back.
00:17:18Fat back, okay.
00:17:19Slender sides.
00:17:20Slender sides.
00:17:21Like Kim Kardashian.
00:17:22So the one I got from – that's right.
00:17:27My computer is popping a champagne cork and it's flying up in the air and then landing on its butt.
00:17:33That's the only one I can finish.
00:17:35The one I got from Anna Banana is square.
00:17:38It's square on the sides, although it has a little bit of a fat butt.
00:17:44Interesting.
00:17:45But the one that I got from Jason is slim, and it's got a black border, and it looks very sleek.
00:17:53When it's off,
00:17:54The black border makes it seem like the whole thing is a screen.
00:17:57Yeah, that's how they get you.
00:17:59They hide the bezel.
00:18:00They hide the bezel.
00:18:01It's got a hidden bezel.
00:18:02Hidden bezel.
00:18:04So I did it.
00:18:05I upgraded the operating system to Mojave 1014.
00:18:08Really?
00:18:09And everything turned out fine?
00:18:14Your computer is not upgraded.
00:18:17Good morning, John.
00:18:17You're vulnerable, vulnerable, vulnerable.
00:18:20So what had happened was...
00:18:23Now I have the – what's cool is now I have everything turned so that it's on the dark side.
00:18:31Oh, you're in dark mode.
00:18:32I'm in dark mode.
00:18:33It's all black and gray.
00:18:36It's all sleek and slick, and I don't feel like the pixels are aggravating my rods and cones.
00:18:45Because everything is like –
00:18:48You can do some hacking now.
00:18:50It's super hacky, right?
00:18:53It's super like Mr. Open.
00:18:54Wow, you're on Mojave.
00:18:55Look at that.
00:18:56Mojave.
00:18:57But every time I click on something,
00:19:00the computer thinks about it for a while and you know that's not what i want you want it's okay for it to think but you shouldn't know it's thinking i want it to be like having a doctor that goes hmm it takes five minutes to respond that's not good or when you say to a girl like do i have a good butt oh and the girl's like yes
00:19:24well and you're like wrong answer and you know girls don't think that you that boys care right and most boys don't most boys are like i have a flat house who cares yeah it's not my problem right i don't have to look at it that's the guy attitude right that's what that's what the papers say but it's not true every every boy wants his butt to be loved
00:19:42You want a nice butt.
00:19:44And you're like, do I have a nice butt?
00:19:45And it's like.
00:19:46Even if it's not the first thing people remark about, especially if it's somebody you've known for a while.
00:19:50I don't know if we're talking about Anna Banana here, whoever that is.
00:19:52But it would be nice if you knew, if you had the confidence, if you did wake up at three in the morning and say, I wonder if I have a nice butt.
00:19:57You'd have some evidence from the last two to seven weeks where somebody said, you have a nice butt.
00:20:02You can put that in the butt bank.
00:20:03Or even like, what does it cost?
00:20:05I mean, you don't want people to lie to you.
00:20:06It's very inexpensive, John.
00:20:08But it's like on a 1 to 10 scale, you know, you're going to assume you're a 2.
00:20:12Kindness is donationware.
00:20:13It's not surpassingly costly.
00:20:15Exactly.
00:20:15Just put it in the 7.
00:20:16Just say it's a 7.
00:20:17Just say it.
00:20:18Yeah, just say it.
00:20:19It's like, okay, high C, right?
00:20:21And it's like, well, I didn't say 78.
00:20:23I said it's just, you know, between 7 and 8, but just give somebody that.
00:20:27You don't have enough of a curved grade on.
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00:22:41Oh, that gets two bells.
00:22:45So, anyway, now the computer, so I'm like, okay, let's go, let's go to the thing.
00:22:51And the computer goes...
00:22:54And I'm like, okay, let's go.
00:22:58Come on.
00:22:58You're having performance issues.
00:23:01I'm like, get on up there.
00:23:03Get on up.
00:23:04Get up.
00:23:05Get on up.
00:23:07Get on the scene.
00:23:08And the computer's like, oh, think about it.
00:23:13And it's like, I like to see somebody thinking about it while they're in motion to do it.
00:23:19You know what I mean?
00:23:20Like, how are you going to do this?
00:23:21How are you going to catch this football?
00:23:22You're not going to stop and think about it.
00:23:24You're going to run.
00:23:25And then you're going to look over your shoulder.
00:23:28That football is going to be there where you were hoping it was going to be.
00:23:32You see that a lot in that Bastic ball now.
00:23:33I started watching Bastic ball.
00:23:35And the new thing that they do now, you get a team like our local team, which is a very good team playing team.
00:23:40They did some amazing stuff.
00:23:41I still think they really need to work on their defense.
00:23:43But one of the boys will pass the ball to the other boy.
00:23:45He acts like he's going to throw it.
00:23:46Then he throws it to another one of the boys.
00:23:48You know what that boy does?
00:23:49He throws it up where it's just kind of near the Bastic, and then another boy jumps up and goes, squoosh, and puts it right into the Bastic.
00:23:58It's amazing to watch.
00:24:00That's what you're looking for.
00:24:01You're not looking for, oh, wait, what game am I playing right now?
00:24:05No, when I click, do the thing.
00:24:06He doesn't throw the ball to the fella.
00:24:08He throws the ball into the air, and the other fella just is like... And for a second, you're going, is that going to be a classic air ball?
00:24:15Nuh-uh, because this other fella comes, and he puts it right into the Bastic.
00:24:17flying fella grabs it and kapow.
00:24:20It's amazing.
00:24:21Two points.
00:24:21That's what I want my computer to do.
00:24:23I want, that's how I want my computer to interact with your computer.
00:24:27So first of all, I don't want the computer to say... You need a Kevin Durant.
00:24:31I do, I guess.
00:24:32Or you might want, you might want a green or... Or whatever.
00:24:35Somebody who's good in the key, if you know what I'm saying.
00:24:37Yeah, I'd take a Dean Stockton or whatever.
00:24:40Listen, here's the thing.
00:24:41Well, here's the thing.
00:24:42Now, uh,
00:24:43I want to hear you all out.
00:24:44I still want to hear about this Anna Banana, but here's the thing.
00:24:47Is it when you're on like a web page or you're on the Finder doing folder and file management?
00:24:53When does it make a beach ball?
00:24:54Are you getting a beach ball?
00:24:57I get beach ball.
00:24:59So, okay, let's see what happens here.
00:25:02All right.
00:25:02I'm going to click Safari.
00:25:04It popped up.
00:25:05All right.
00:25:06I was just in the middle of...
00:25:09leaving a comment on a guy's uh facebook page about an iroc z okay and so the first thing i see here is that i've written iroc okay but then you called me oh sorry so so i just put iroc i just put a z in there let me just okay i'm gonna leave that alone for a second you're in the text area you're typing um all right so i just clicked on face favorites all right let's see what happens let's um
00:25:34Let's click on a web page.
00:25:36Oh, wait.
00:25:37Oh, it got there.
00:25:39And that's the story of your life, though.
00:25:42You've been having a problem, and now you want to show somebody a problem, and then everything works fine.
00:25:45Yeah, it all seems to be working.
00:25:46It's like a reverse bat demo.
00:25:48um you know i think it's uh let's see what let me see if i can find another way to uh to implement a fail here um uh well i don't want to close skype because i'm talking you think you got hacked wait i'm gonna open mail hang on here we go oh no you don't want to do no no oh no four five thanks to our sponsors this week because i won't be hearing from john anytime soon but look it's not open it's still not open oh forget with mail.app
00:26:15Still not open.
00:26:17Shit, dog.
00:26:18Don't open that garbage.
00:26:19Maybe.
00:26:20Oh, it's a bad app, John.
00:26:22Mail is?
00:26:24Oh, there it is.
00:26:27Oh, it came up.
00:26:28So you see what I mean?
00:26:29That took a lot longer than it ought to have.
00:26:34Right?
00:26:36So what do I do?
00:26:38Have I got viruses?
00:26:40Did I get hacked?
00:26:42What do I do?
00:26:43I have some technical things you could try.
00:26:46Okay, I just tried to close it.
00:26:47Now it's been in beach balls.
00:26:48Now we're going to have to run this past our technologist in residence, John Syracuse.
00:26:52I think generally when you're getting beach balls, I believe that is an indication of low memory.
00:27:00It's having trouble doing the things because your RAM is constrained in some way.
00:27:04Still beach balling.
00:27:05Oh, for the love of Pete.
00:27:07All right, try this.
00:27:08I got constrained ram.
00:27:09Try this.
00:27:10Go to the magnifying glass.
00:27:10Go to spotlight.
00:27:13Still beach balling.
00:27:15I'm over in spotlight now.
00:27:17Type activity.
00:27:19Active.
00:27:21You know, that's a great thing I've noticed now about people my age is that when they're Googling something, they spell it.
00:27:27Oh, yeah.
00:27:29Activity.
00:27:31Activity.
00:27:33I went through years of that with my dear sweet mother.
00:27:35Oh, my Firefox is down.
00:27:38Say, what does that mean, Mom?
00:27:39What do you mean your Firefox is down?
00:27:41All right, here's activity.
00:27:42I got CPU.
00:27:44Yeah, activity monitor, and you get your processes.
00:27:46Now, let's go to CPU.
00:27:48I got CPU here.
00:27:50And sort by percent CPU.
00:27:53Sort by percent CPU, Roger.
00:27:55You're probably seeing Skype.
00:27:58I see kernel task.
00:27:59Kernel task is like, that's your brain core.
00:28:01You don't want that to go away.
00:28:02That's good.
00:28:04Now, mail finally...
00:28:06Shut down.
00:28:09But for whatever reason, it left me an open window of a mail that it thinks I wanted to send.
00:28:16Oh, wait.
00:28:17No, mail didn't shut down.
00:28:19In fact, mail is still open.
00:28:21It sent me a thing, and it's trying to send an email from longwintersatme.com.
00:28:26Oh, Jiminy.
00:28:26Which is not an address I use a lot.
00:28:29All right, I'm going to try and shut you down again, mail.
00:28:32Oh, oh.
00:28:34Try this.
00:28:35Try option, command, option, command, escape.
00:28:38Oh, no, but I don't want to.
00:28:40Well, we'll just see if it's hung.
00:28:41We'll just see if it's hung.
00:28:42No, no, no, it's gone now.
00:28:43It finally went down.
00:28:44So I got Skype helper activity monitors taking up.
00:28:48Isn't that the way?
00:28:49Isn't that always the way?
00:28:51It's so meta.
00:28:51Yeah, who activities the activities.
00:28:53Now, oh, what the address book source sync was up there for a while.
00:28:58Oh, now something called Soagent.
00:29:01Call service.
00:29:02Try starting by CPU time.
00:29:03CPU time.
00:29:04And we'll see.
00:29:06Kernel task.
00:29:07Kernel task is going to be big.
00:29:09Core audio.
00:29:11Core audio.
00:29:12Okay, that's all good.
00:29:13Click on memory.
00:29:13Let's look at memory.
00:29:14Windows server.
00:29:16Try memory.
00:29:16See if anything exciting is happening in memory.
00:29:18Memory.
00:29:21Well, for some reason, Facebook is taking up 500 megabytes of memory.
00:29:28All right.
00:29:28And then Google Chrome Helper.
00:29:32Windows Server, Dropbox.
00:29:34Cloud D. So why are those things?
00:29:36Why is that?
00:29:37They're doing background stuff.
00:29:39We've got tidying up.
00:29:39I don't want Facebook doing any background stuff.
00:29:43Lighting a scented candle.
00:29:45What the?
00:29:46Quality of life issues.
00:29:48All right.
00:29:49The other thing we can do is find out if you have any problems with your hard disk or your disk drive.
00:29:55And we could walk through that.
00:29:56That's a very exciting thing.
00:29:58We go into single user mode at startup.
00:30:00After you hear the ding, you hold down Command S, and it brings up the terminal.
00:30:05All those little letters.
00:30:06It looks like MS-DOS.
00:30:07Uh-huh.
00:30:08Then I'm in the matrix.
00:30:09And you can run FSCK.
00:30:11FSCK will detect whether there are any big problems with your disk.
00:30:15But I can't do that while I'm talking to you.
00:30:17No, no.
00:30:17That would not be advisable for the show.
00:30:19I think we've already helped a lot of people with this.
00:30:21Yeah, I do feel like.
00:30:22But so what you just discovered in looking at my things was that there was no problem.
00:30:26Well, there wasn't anything crazy.
00:30:28And this is kind of why it's interesting sometimes to hit option command escape, because even if you aren't going to quit those apps, you can see if one of them is read and not responding.
00:30:36Oh, I like to do that.
00:30:37I do that too.
00:30:38I do that too.
00:30:39It's kind of like they used to say, you know, they used to say, go to the doctor, you get a checkup.
00:30:42And now they say, don't do that because it's actually turns out it's potentially fine.
00:30:47Well, and you get false positives and there's all kinds of things that can make a vulnerable, vulnerable person feel anxious.
00:30:53And you don't want your doctor to do that.
00:30:56So which one now?
00:30:57Help me out here.
00:30:58Is this the Anna Banana computer you're on right now?
00:31:00See, so for a while... Now you're on the Jason Finn computer.
00:31:04For a while I had both of... So anyway, I brought the Anna Banana computer home and I just put it on a desk somewhere and it sat there for about...
00:31:11I don't know, five months.
00:31:13And then I realized it had a lot of stuff on it that I hadn't gotten off.
00:31:17Mm-hmm.
00:31:17And I didn't want to put it into target disk mode.
00:31:21Ah, please.
00:31:22Because come on.
00:31:23Am I right?
00:31:25Am I right?
00:31:26You're right.
00:31:26So I was like, yeah, there's got to be some webinology here.
00:31:30So I hooked them both up.
00:31:32Oh, and they're next to each other.
00:31:34I did.
00:31:36I looked like I had a battle station and I was about to play some some, you know, Sergeant Rock or some massively multiplayer.
00:31:44Yeah, I was just about to get in there and just and I was going to play it on the web and I was going to make a million dollars because people wanted to watch me just play video games.
00:31:51That's right.
00:31:52You're no-scoping fools.
00:31:54No-scoping is right.
00:31:57Just when you think your battle cruiser is about to destroy my planet.
00:32:02John Roderick, he doesn't play video games.
00:32:05Turns out I beamed on board your bridge.
00:32:09You didn't expect me.
00:32:11Sucka.
00:32:15So I had them both up, but here's the problem.
00:32:19Ready?
00:32:19Here's problem number two.
00:32:20I only have one mouse.
00:32:22Oh, one mouse, two computers.
00:32:24So I had to keep unplugging the mouse and moving it to the other computer to do a thing, and then I had to move over back to this computer and do a thing, move over back to that computer.
00:32:32Savage.
00:32:34It was pretty savage.
00:32:36I had two keyboards.
00:32:38I just had the one mouse.
00:32:38And the reason I just had the one mouse is when I go to the thrift store to buy a second mouse, I don't like any of the mice.
00:32:46They're all from HP or something.
00:32:47They don't have any of the... I don't want a mouse from HP.
00:32:52I don't want a mouse from Dell.
00:32:54I want a normal good mouse.
00:32:56And the problem is people are always like, right click on this.
00:32:58I'm like, I only have the one button.
00:33:00No, no right click.
00:33:02I can't right click.
00:33:03I only have the one button.
00:33:03i'm gonna get so much email about this and people are like well i don't know man you're supposed to right click on it i'm like i don't know tell me what do i hold down option and click do i have what there's got to be a control and click is right click right i do that all the time sure right click on stuff i just control click sure anyway so i wanted a second one of those but i can't you can't find them at thrift stores and i didn't want to buy one online because maybe you maybe you get one that was made by dell and it just looks like an apple oh they just painted over it yeah
00:33:30So I got on the computer and I was like, let's do this.
00:33:35Right.
00:33:35Let's do this.
00:33:37Because I know there's a mode where you can make the computers friends.
00:33:42Mm-hmm.
00:33:43And so I went into that mode.
00:33:45Kind of a friendly mode.
00:33:46It's friend mode.
00:33:47It's like share mode.
00:33:50Share with friend mode.
00:33:53I went in and the computer was like, oh, oh, wait, no, no, no.
00:33:56So then the Anna Banana computer said, you need to upgrade your operating system.
00:34:00Oh, here we go.
00:34:01And I said, you know what?
00:34:04And I, you know, how many bad decisions have I made in my life where I started out saying, you know what?
00:34:10Well, normally you would push back on that.
00:34:12You don't like cold medicine and you don't like people telling you when it's time to upgrade your computer.
00:34:16You say, no, I'll make that decision when I'm good and ready.
00:34:18And then sometimes one capitulates and you say, fine.
00:34:22Look, I've never been married, but it doesn't mean that eventually I won't go.
00:34:26You know what?
00:34:28Yeah, sure.
00:34:29Any given Sunday.
00:34:30You never know.
00:34:31And I do I do that every once in a while.
00:34:33I say, OK, you know what?
00:34:35And that's usually when my truck catches on fire or it's usually when I end up like, I don't know.
00:34:41In a relationship with a lawyer or something, something bad.
00:34:46You've chosen poorly.
00:34:47You know what?
00:34:49Anyway, so I said, you know what?
00:34:51Strangely, this computer only upgraded its operating system to the level it was capable of, which I didn't know was a thing that they allowed it to do.
00:35:02It upgraded what it had.
00:35:05I see.
00:35:07And it turned out that the Anna Banana computer is the oldest one.
00:35:13that can still run an operating system that can still communicate with the ones from now.
00:35:18Did you just go over this online or just from process of elimination?
00:35:21Just like I'm just looking.
00:35:23I've got two screens up.
00:35:24You're doing computer science here.
00:35:26I've got my headset on.
00:35:27I've got my VR goggles.
00:35:29I've got my Imogen Heap gloves.
00:35:33And I'm all pew pew.
00:35:36And all bullets are flying by me in super slow-mo.
00:35:38And I'm bending way back like you couldn't even do.
00:35:41I've got a cape on.
00:35:43Right.
00:35:43Yep, yep, yep.
00:35:44And so I figure out, okay, like I'm in the last days of a dying era.
00:35:50If I can get, I can get stuff off the antibanana computer.
00:35:54Mm-hmm.
00:35:55But not for long.
00:35:57Oh, you got a window.
00:35:58Yeah, one of those days it's going to say, oh, that no longer, we no longer service.
00:36:03Oh, you waited too long.
00:36:05We can no longer adjust those ski bindings.
00:36:09Oh, okay.
00:36:10Did I ever tell you that story?
00:36:11I went into the ski resort and I was like, I got my old skis out.
00:36:15And the kid was like, never seen
00:36:17those before.
00:36:19And I said, what are you talking about?
00:36:20This was, these were top of the line vocals within, you know, these were like race quality, Olympic quality, Solomon 747S bindings or 747E keep bindings.
00:36:31And the kid was like, I am not authorized to work on those.
00:36:34Oh my goodness.
00:36:35And I said, bring your manager out here, young man.
00:36:39And the manager came out.
00:36:40He was like 29.
00:36:42Did he call you old timer?
00:36:44And he said, Oh, I've seen those.
00:36:47And the young kid was just like looking over at him like, really?
00:36:52Like it's like Colonial Williamsburg.
00:36:55Oh, yeah.
00:36:55That's a wooden barrel you use to make butter.
00:36:58I see.
00:36:58Interesting.
00:36:59Are you freaking kidding me?
00:37:01These bindings are not that old.
00:37:02And the guy was like, when are they from?
00:37:05And I was like, 80.
00:37:07And he was like, see, I mean, I was born in 86 or whatever.
00:37:12I was like, oh, man.
00:37:13And so he said.
00:37:14Bring out your district manager.
00:37:16He said, we're not authorized to work on these.
00:37:19And I said, listen, bring out a form, whatever you need.
00:37:22I'll sign it so you can loan me your screwdriver right now and I'll adjust the bindings and take all responsibility.
00:37:31And he was like.
00:37:32I think, okay, all right.
00:37:34So he went back and he came out with some page, piece of paper that was like, I accept all responsibility.
00:37:39And you said fine.
00:37:41Yeah, because I know how to work on the bindings.
00:37:42I just was at the place.
00:37:44Well, what I was doing was renting boots.
00:37:45This isn't your first day.
00:37:46You had Olympic quality skis.
00:37:47You know from bindings.
00:37:49Yeah, I was like, I just want to rent boots.
00:37:50And he was like, well, we have to adjust the skis to fit the boots and we can't do it.
00:37:54And I was like, I'll do the bindings.
00:37:56You just get out of my, you know what?
00:37:58Clear a path.
00:37:59You guys, time to watch and learn.
00:38:02Mm-hmm.
00:38:02it's not it's not rocket science it's skiing anyway so it was so anna banana computer is like these bindings okay okay so i get it hooked up and it's all like everything's okay so far so good and then i say let's go into friend mode
00:38:26And I'm switching the mouse back and forth between the two computers.
00:38:30And the Jason Finn computer is like, let's get into friend mode.
00:38:35And I'm like, right on people going back over to the Anna banana computer.
00:38:39Here we go.
00:38:40Look it up.
00:38:41And Anna banana computer says, please put in your password, your system admin password.
00:38:50I'm like system admin password.
00:38:52It's not the same as the normal password.
00:38:55Your system admin password.
00:38:57System admin.
00:38:58So I look on that and it says there are two system admins for this computer.
00:39:05There's John.
00:39:06Oh, no, I'm sorry.
00:39:07There's three.
00:39:08Well, not three.
00:39:08Is Anna Banana still on there?
00:39:10You know who's on there?
00:39:12Hot Dogs Ladies.
00:39:15Hot Dogs Ladies.
00:39:16Oh, man.
00:39:17Is a system admin.
00:39:18Are you hacking me right now?
00:39:20No, I think Hot Dogs Ladies is a system admin on this because when I first got this, I went into target disk mode on the laptop that you and I bought at the University of San Francisco.
00:39:33Oh my goodness.
00:39:35And imported that laptop.
00:39:37Oh, because the user got imported.
00:39:39You pulled over the admin.
00:39:41I pulled over the admin.
00:39:42My legacy's alive.
00:39:43You're still alive in the machine.
00:39:45Only listen to the first 10 seconds of all your songs.
00:39:50Click.
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00:42:39I'm counting on you more than click.
00:42:49Hey Madeline, how's it going?
00:42:51Click.
00:42:51Oh, I'm doing good.
00:42:53Oh, Merlin's listening to my record.
00:42:55Almost done.
00:42:56How have you been?
00:42:57Oh, here comes Merlin.
00:42:58Hey, it sounds great.
00:43:00Thanks, Merle.
00:43:04You got the gist?
00:43:05I got the gist.
00:43:06Click.
00:43:08Okay, so Jason Finn's computer is going, wow, wow.
00:43:13And this one is saying you got to cough up an admin.
00:43:17Jason Finn's got the computer picture, the Apple computer picture of the square face with the Picasso nose and the smile.
00:43:26It's kind of one face, kind of two faces.
00:43:28It's one face or two face, right?
00:43:30It's a clever little logo.
00:43:33Face off.
00:43:33Face off.
00:43:34And the other computer is like... It's even encouraging friend mode.
00:43:37It's saying right on the logo.
00:43:38Make a friend.
00:43:39Find a friend.
00:43:40Make a friend.
00:43:41Light face, dark face.
00:43:43Make a friend.
00:43:44Oh, Hakuna Matata.
00:43:47And I'm like, system admin password.
00:43:49So I put in a password.
00:43:51I put in the password that I assumed was from the time.
00:43:56Doesn't recognize it.
00:43:57So I put in the other password from that time.
00:44:00doesn't recognize it.
00:44:02So then I put in... Car parts with a five instead of an S. Car parts with a five.
00:44:08And then I did like a later password that came along later.
00:44:12Doesn't know that one.
00:44:15Oh, I see.
00:44:15So you're flipper, flipper, flipper.
00:44:17You're going through your files thinking of what were the contemporaneous passwords that might be the admin key.
00:44:22Right.
00:44:22When I have to log into Facebook for whatever reason, the password is some password from, you know, a long time ago.
00:44:29Oh, boy.
00:44:30And the internet from then, too.
00:44:33And an email address I don't use anymore.
00:44:36What a house of cards, John.
00:44:38It really is.
00:44:39Isn't that tied to your Instagram account?
00:44:40Aren't you vulnerable in that same way because you've got all the same stuff?
00:44:43But I never log into anything.
00:44:45It just sits there.
00:44:47It's always logged in.
00:44:47Everything's logged in all the time.
00:44:51So if I get logged out, maybe I'll never get back in.
00:44:54I don't know how to get into my MySpace page.
00:44:56I couldn't get into my Flickr page if it still existed.
00:44:58You can't change your flair at all.
00:45:00No, no, can't.
00:45:03I can't change my top five.
00:45:05Yeah, your top five, your Verizon friends.
00:45:07We're working on, at this point, getting the Anna Banana computer into a state where friend mode can be enabled so you can ziba-zaba files and folders from the Anna Banana computer, transfer that over to the Jason Finn friends computer, friends face computer.
00:45:21And the problem is the Anna Banana computer.
00:45:22And you got one mouse because you don't want to Dell.
00:45:24I only got one mouse.
00:45:25The other problem is that the Anna Banana computer then threw up a clue.
00:45:31It said, here's a hint to your password.
00:45:36And it gave me a cryptic sentence that I recognized as something I would have written that gave me absolutely no insight into.
00:45:45Because what the clue was, basically, was it's the same password as this other thing.
00:45:51Oh, no, you're hoisted by your own Picard.
00:45:53From back then.
00:45:54Oh, geez.
00:45:55Right?
00:45:55Remember the password that you used for this other thing?
00:45:58Something like, you know, same as Facebook or something.
00:46:01Yeah, right, right.
00:46:02That's not a great opsec, but it might work.
00:46:07That doesn't help.
00:46:08Like, hey, pass me.
00:46:09Do something else than that.
00:46:11Say, like, mom's cat.
00:46:12You can't close the loop.
00:46:14You can't close the loop.
00:46:16And I was like, so then I said, well, surely I offered a second clue because everything now asks you for three or four clues.
00:46:22No, it's just the one clue.
00:46:24The one clue that's basically like, same, you know, second, first, same as the first.
00:46:31Mm-hmm.
00:46:31Mm-hmm.
00:46:33So that was when... I didn't know how this works out.
00:46:36Well, that was when the Goog jumped into the picture.
00:46:41Oh, the Goog is the source of the sinking.
00:46:44Do you want to sink?
00:46:45Do you want to sink?
00:46:46Do you want to sink?
00:46:48Do you, do you, do you, do you want to sink?
00:46:51Do you want to sink?
00:46:53Do you want to sink?
00:46:55Do you want to sink me there?
00:47:00Well, there.
00:47:01There.
00:47:03So the titular Google Sync is running on the Antibanana computer so that you can pull it over to the Jason Finn Faces computer?
00:47:09Antibanana computer.
00:47:10Antibanana computer becomes the source of truth.
00:47:12You push that up to the clode, and then in the fullness of time, the computer you got in exchange for a bag and or a steak will be able to pull down the files and folders, and you'll be able to be made whole.
00:47:21Now, I don't know if that... So right now, I don't know why the Jason Finn computer has to be working...
00:47:34hard in order for the Anna Banana computer to be syncing stuff to the cloud.
00:47:40So when you turned off the Google Sync, that was on the Jason Finn computer that you're mostly on right now because that's the one the mouse is attached to.
00:47:48Right.
00:47:49But to your knowledge, based on information, the Anna Banana computer is still running the Goog somewhere up in its menu bar.
00:47:57Conceive a bobble.
00:47:57Mm-hmm.
00:47:59All right.
00:48:00I can't, but the thing is I can't know because I would have to unplug the mouse and plug it into the Anna Banana computer just to get it up and running.
00:48:07Totally understood.
00:48:08And how long ago, if you can say for, you know, security and OPSEC reasons, approximately how long ago did you get the Goog on the Anna Banana computer?
00:48:17Last night.
00:48:18Last night, okay.
00:48:19Last night at...
00:48:22Well, wait a minute.
00:48:23Was it last night?
00:48:24It was Sunday, yesterday.
00:48:25Sunday was yesterday.
00:48:27It might have been the day before.
00:48:28Yesterday, what I did was I sorted all my glasses.
00:48:35I spent all day doing that yesterday.
00:48:37The day before, I downloaded a bunch of loops from my looper, and then the looper said...
00:48:46That I had corrupted it somehow.
00:48:48You corrupted the Looper on the Jason Finn computer?
00:48:51I corrupted the Looper because I didn't eject the Looper before I pushed end sync button on Looper.
00:48:58And the Looper was like, data corrupted.
00:49:01And then I had to go online and figure out what to do.
00:49:04And all they could say was like, factory reset.
00:49:06Gotta park your Blender bus.
00:49:08And a lot of the factory reset comments were from 2009.
00:49:11Oh, see, you got to be careful about the comments.
00:49:132007 looper.
00:49:15You did a good job on this beard and mustache trim.
00:49:17It's pretty good.
00:49:18Recently?
00:49:19I don't know, man.
00:49:20I'm looking at one where you got your glasses on top of your head and you're kind of looking at the camera.
00:49:24Oh, about the... You're waiting for Humans of New York.
00:49:28Yeah, Rwanda.
00:49:29Rwanda.
00:49:30On there, yeah.
00:49:31Okay, when was that?
00:49:32That was four days ago, okay.
00:49:34Humans of New York has been in Rwanda interviewing people.
00:49:37I've never understood how Humans of New York gets people to open up to him so...
00:49:41So completely open up.
00:49:43They do.
00:49:44He gets amazing stories, but he's in Rwanda and the stories are just fucking devastating.
00:49:48Oh God.
00:49:49So I didn't know how to post that before you had installed the Google sync on the Anna banana computer for sure.
00:49:56All right.
00:49:56All right.
00:49:57I think we've got a timeline.
00:49:58We've got a tick tock working now.
00:50:00Sometime between then and now.
00:50:01And the thing is I have not put everything on Anna Banana Computer up into the cloud.
00:50:06I just did some things because I wanted to test it.
00:50:09That's smart.
00:50:10And unfortunately, though, it's syncing all kinds of shit that I didn't ask it to.
00:50:15Oh, boy, it syncs a lot of stuff.
00:50:17It's just like, oh, did you want to sync all these huge files?
00:50:20Did you just point it?
00:50:22I only use it for photos.
00:50:23Do you point it at like...
00:50:24your documents folder, your desktop folder, you tell it like, just do the whole kit and caboodle?
00:50:29I know what I did was I like put a couple of folders that had like,
00:50:33Well, stuff I didn't want to lose.
00:50:35Oh, okay.
00:50:36All right.
00:50:36I don't care really if I lose.
00:50:38Let's be honest.
00:50:39The clock is ticking.
00:50:40You don't know how long it's going to be until this is an ineligible computer.
00:50:43Right.
00:50:44When does the Goog say, oh, we don't recognize Anna Banana Computer unless you put in the password from 2006.
00:50:49Oh, God.
00:50:52When you originally set up a system admin with Merlin.
00:50:55It wasn't even 2006.
00:50:56It was 2005.
00:50:57I'm always trying to help, but I don't always help.
00:50:59No, no, no.
00:51:00It was very helpful.
00:51:02But, you know, between the two of us, our brain trust... I mean, your passwords now are probably all 5, 2, lowercase i, x. Oh, no.
00:51:09I use upper and lowercase.
00:51:11Oh, you do?
00:51:11Yeah, I use... Upper i, lower i. Yeah, I use dash, do tilde.
00:51:17But you don't say, like...
00:51:18merlin mann and the a is a four well i couldn't really say and the e is a three you can't you can't crack something like that i mean that's your keyboard just look at your keyboard you couldn't do that up how would you even know where to begin opsec infosec that's you know and so i just do like my phone number you know like that's real easy
00:51:40Yeah, shapes, but the S is a five, and the other one's an S. Yeah, exactly.
00:51:43Lowercase, lowercase.
00:51:44That might be it.
00:51:45That might be the password.
00:51:47Shapes said the S is a five.
00:51:50Password accepted.
00:51:51You're into Anna Bonilla.
00:51:54I'm in!
00:51:55I'm in!
00:51:55You cracked the encryption!
00:51:57Now time to rewrite.
00:51:58All you want is friendship.
00:52:00You're looking for computer friendship.
00:52:02Should it be this difficult to have computers be friends?
00:52:05So here's the thing.
00:52:06I looked at, I was looking at these computers.
00:52:08I was looking at my battle station here and I was like, do, do, do.
00:52:11And I said, what would it take to,
00:52:15What would it take for me to get you into a brand new computer today?
00:52:21What kind of a deal?
00:52:22Do you want the undercoating?
00:52:23Do you want the rust proofing?
00:52:25It comes from straight from the factory.
00:52:28Do you want, look, I can get, I can get you the mag wheels.
00:52:32I can get you the in dash entertainment system.
00:52:35I can get you the headrest entertainment system.
00:52:37We're just going to, how about, why don't you be one of those people that just goes to the Mac store, picks the biggest, coolest new thing and just buys it.
00:52:45Because there are rich people that do that shit all the time.
00:52:50Shit, dog.
00:52:51That does not obviate your anti-banana problem, though, right?
00:52:53No, it doesn't, but... I mean, you can buy all the computers in the world.
00:52:56You still got stuff stuck over on the anti-banana computer.
00:52:58But if you bought some one of those computers... Are we talking about you going to get a real workhorse?
00:53:04Yeah, workhorse.
00:53:04Like a draft horse.
00:53:05One of those with five quad cores.
00:53:08Or the one that – remember the one that Apple made that looked like some kind of appliance?
00:53:15It was like a blurb.
00:53:16Yeah, they made a blurb.
00:53:17They made several things.
00:53:19They made a Wi-Fi thing, like a teardrop kind of.
00:53:22You're talking about probably like the – what's it called?
00:53:24The one they made like a long time ago that was looking like a box.
00:53:29Yeah, quad core.
00:53:30Quad core.
00:53:31There was one that looked like a Haldron accelerator or maybe like a box of Quaker Oats.
00:53:37Or a lamp.
00:53:38Or a lamp.
00:53:39It looked like a lamp.
00:53:40A mid-century modern lamp that you might get on the internet.
00:53:44That's what I was thinking of the cube.
00:53:46It was like a quadruple quad core.
00:53:50Something like that with one of those big screens where you say, is this as good as a TV?
00:53:55It's a real workhorse.
00:53:56They say it's better than a TV, but you can't really watch TV on it.
00:54:00And you say, if I had a screen... But you know what?
00:54:02You're not going to want to watch TV.
00:54:04With all that power, TV is going to be the least of your concerns.
00:54:06You've got so much going on now.
00:54:08You could be doing anything.
00:54:08You could be cracking SETI's, right?
00:54:11You'll be editing vids.
00:54:12You'll be making videos and editing them on... You'll be producing content, that's for sure.
00:54:16And then you'll put it up on the webpage that you designed with our built-in webpage put-up software.
00:54:21All right, thanks to Squarespace.
00:54:23And it would be... Hmm...
00:54:26It would be one of those blogs with a lot of video content.
00:54:30So when you have a simple question you want, like, hey, how do I do this?
00:54:34It's like, let's watch this two-minute-long video.
00:54:36And it's like, I don't want that.
00:54:38You could explain this to me in a sentence fragment.
00:54:42I've been talking to my little girl about sentence fragments lately because a lot of her homework, the teacher will say, write a sentence using the word because.
00:54:52And she'll write, because I want to.
00:54:55And I'm like, sweetie, that's not a sentence.
00:54:59She's like, well, they don't want us to write a sentence.
00:55:01They just want us to use the word.
00:55:02And I was like, it says the word sentence.
00:55:04So I'm going to use this as a teaching moment to teach you what a sentence is.
00:55:08Uh-huh.
00:55:09And she resists it because that's not, she doesn't think she needs to, but I'm like, there are things you need to know that you don't think you need to know.
00:55:17The things you want to teach them the most are the things that they least want to hear.
00:55:20That's for sure.
00:55:21I'm like subject, verb, object.
00:55:24Everything we ever do here on this homework is going to meet that basic criteria from here on out.
00:55:30Right.
00:55:30And so then we sit and we try and figure out, like, what can we add to this fragment to make it into a complete sentence?
00:55:39And that's a fun game.
00:55:41Usually it doesn't take much.
00:55:43Usually you just add a couple of words and there it is.
00:55:45Let's at least get you up to comma splices.
00:55:47But we need to build.
00:55:48Build, build, build.
00:55:49We need to get away from this just because of Winn-Dixie stuff.
00:55:51Let's move it up.
00:55:52Right.
00:55:52Exactly.
00:55:53But if I want to learn how to, like...
00:55:57uh adjust a 1986 solomon 747 e-keep i do not want to watch a video about it i just want to do that you don't use youtube to learn things i i i learn lots of things like how to fix things from youtube so i learn how to fix my ice maker from there there was a youtube video so i was having some problems with my lawnmower okay it would start push lawnmower riding lawnmower
00:56:23I don't have a riding lawnmower.
00:56:25I mean, the day that I get a riding lawnmower, I will already have the biggest Mac you can have.
00:56:31A real workhorse.
00:56:32Right, I'll get the workhorse.
00:56:33One that can do things I would never want.
00:56:35I would never want to do.
00:56:36It'll be running SETI.
00:56:39Wouldn't that be nice to have a computer that does more than you need?
00:56:42And it grows with you, and you just keep updating.
00:56:45You go past Mojave.
00:56:47You get into like Fremont, or you get Fremont Sierra, and it keeps going up and up and up, right?
00:56:52You get, I don't know, Fruitvale Station.
00:56:55It just keeps going up and up and up, right?
00:56:57You get to Eureka, Eureka Pro.
00:57:00You get to Terrapin.
00:57:01You get to Terrapin Station.
00:57:04You can't figure out Terrapin.
00:57:07what's that song i like there summer magnolia what's it called sweetie pie maple syrup what's that song i like sweetie pie maple syrup is that the one it's got the guitar solo in it is that what's that one called lullaby lullaby lullaby memories what's it called what's the one i'm thinking of the bass line goes oh it's got the drums and the percussion i like that one i like that one and then somebody goes
00:57:32Yeah, that's the one.
00:57:39So the idea is you get a real workhorse and you don't even need to watch TV.
00:57:43You're going to have no problem sucking down Anna Banana because this thing's going to have the throughput.
00:57:47It's going to have the torque that you need.
00:57:49It's going to have the engagement and it's going to have the gearbox that lets you really go boom.
00:57:53Now we're in second gear.
00:57:55You're never even going to need to change the oil on this.
00:57:57That's what it says right there.
00:57:58You never change the oil.
00:58:00Right, right, right, right.
00:58:01So I went on YouTube.
00:58:02Adam Pranica was here.
00:58:04And I said, the machine's not working, the lawnmower.
00:58:08And he said, well, it seems like the carburetor.
00:58:12And Adam is, he's mechanical.
00:58:15Is he a gearhead?
00:58:16Well, yeah, he's mechanical.
00:58:18He drives BMWs and he works on them himself.
00:58:22He puts in the Deenan chip and puts a new... What's he got?
00:58:29He's got an M-Series?
00:58:30What has he got?
00:58:31He's got everything he gets is one of those M cars right now.
00:58:36That's like a starter BMW, right?
00:58:38Well, no, I was embarrassed for him because he showed up in some SUV, but he was like, no, no, no.
00:58:42It's got the, all the, it's got a Dean and chip.
00:58:45Did you do a podcast for a living?
00:58:47yeah i think so shit that's that that's old star trek money right jesus christ star trek people like what he used to do he used to make uh what he made he made uh independent films for costco before right he made videos for boeing for a long time boeing okay they're internal internal videos like hi i suppose like welcome to oh hi i didn't see you there yeah right
00:59:09Welcome to the training video where we tell you how to wire up the bathroom fans on a 777.
00:59:17Oh, that's his new one.
00:59:18So the wide bodies.
00:59:19That's a wide body.
00:59:20Real workhorse.
00:59:21Okay, so Adam is a gearhead.
00:59:23Adam has BMWs, and he understands carburation.
00:59:26So Adam says, why don't we call up a YouTube video on the Briggs & Stratton lawnmower engine?
00:59:32So I'm like, I wouldn't have thought to do that, but all right, let's do.
00:59:35Briggs & Stratton, okay.
00:59:36So then there's a guy.
00:59:38making a video and he's like here's how we get to the carburetor of briggs and stratton 2.5 horsepower lawnmower engine and i look over at adam like okay are you gonna follow this video and fix my lawnmower and adam's like good luck
00:59:56What did that mean?
00:59:58Well, it's a teaching moment for him.
00:59:59Oh, no.
01:00:00He's like, I'm not going to fix your lawnmower.
01:00:02He's trying to teach me how to fish?
01:00:04And the thing is, I can follow a YouTube video, but he's just like, I want to see you.
01:00:08I'm going to stand here and give you moral support, but I want to see you fix this lawnmower.
01:00:12All right.
01:00:13So I follow the guy and he's like, take the screw that holds the housing and put the screw up your nose and then take the housing off.
01:00:23And you'll find under there a valve grommet that goes to the turbo and fabulator.
01:00:31And I follow the diagram here.
01:00:34I follow the instructions and I fall and I get all the way down.
01:00:37And then I'm like, then I'm really, I'm pot committed here.
01:00:39I've got my lawnmower all taken apart and
01:00:42So you're taking it apart as you're watching the video.
01:00:48And this is the first time I'd ever done one of these, and I was realizing in the moment, like, shit, I could probably fix anything with this.
01:00:54There's a guy that's like, then you take the
01:00:57You take the turbofabulator and you add it to your sauce and you put a couple of meatballs in there because you never know when you're going to have to feed a bunch of guys when they all go to the mattresses.
01:01:08So you get a rich mix on your spark plug.
01:01:10So I do it, and then he said, you'll find the jet, and I bet you the jet is clogged.
01:01:17Now, I used to replace the jets on this –
01:01:22i i used to have a ford f-250 but it had a gm 350 motor in it you can't do that well it was not supposed to be done this way you can do that that's like isn't it like a dogs and cats living together kind of thing sort of yeah pretty much they're both american but they're made by different americans right yes okay pretty much all right i bought it up in delta junction alaska for my guy and he was like you know up here in delta junction we just do we make do with what we got
01:01:50And he said, when I put the 350 into the F-250, I had to rejigger all the hoses and the belts.
01:01:59So you're going to see some belts that take an interesting path.
01:02:04And I was like, that belt has taken an interesting path.
01:02:07And he was like, yep.
01:02:08Well, that's what you have to do to get the alternator to hook up with the sinculator.
01:02:13And and so but it worked.
01:02:15It worked fine.
01:02:16But the thing is, the whole thing was Alaska done.
01:02:18So when I brought being told what to do, John, they do not.
01:02:23And he said, you know, this is going to surprise some people.
01:02:25It had a heart transplant.
01:02:26You're going to pop this hood open sometimes and people are going to take a step back or they're going to take a step forward or they're going to take a step to the side.
01:02:34They're going to do see dough.
01:02:36Mm hmm.
01:02:36But it's not going to be what they're expecting.
01:02:39You do like a Schrodinger's 250, F-250, you say to somebody, what's in here?
01:02:43They might have a real different idea until they open the lid.
01:02:46It's a quantum state.
01:02:48Yeah, they're going to say 351 Cleveland, and I'm going to say, nope.
01:02:51Sorry, pal.
01:02:53Anyway, but when I brought that truck down to America, down here in America, they have things like... Contemporaneous 48.
01:03:03Mm-hmm.
01:03:03Like you have in California, emissions controls.
01:03:06Oh, here we go.
01:03:07Here comes the government.
01:03:09That's right.
01:03:09So I went to the emissions, and the government said, this truck doesn't pass emissions.
01:03:15Oh, God.
01:03:16So you go to the Shell station where they got that banner hung out front?
01:03:19No, I didn't go to that guy.
01:03:21And this is before YouTube videos.
01:03:24But I knew enough about a thing that I went to the auto parts store.
01:03:30And I said, I think that I have some jets in this truck that are too fat.
01:03:38And I need some thinner jets.
01:03:41And you buy those jets for not very much money, and you can put those jets in for not very much hardness.
01:03:49So I sat there in the parking lot of the... And I asked the guy behind the counter, like, what do you got for me in terms of telling me what about this?
01:03:59And he was like, oh, it's real easy.
01:04:01You just derp and derp and herp.
01:04:05And...
01:04:06And I said, excellent.
01:04:10Based on his herpaderpa, you felt confident that he'd given you the high sign to say this is totally something you could put thinner jets in.
01:04:17Just do it right out in the driveway.
01:04:18It'll be fine.
01:04:19So they don't like you to do it right in front of the store, but I did it anyway.
01:04:23So this is all the car work I ever did involved going to an old-fashioned auto parts store where a guy with like a Jeff Skunk Baxter mustache said, oh, yeah, well, sounds like what you got there.
01:04:37is a clogged enfabulator and uh here's the part and it's real easy and then you know a couple of like a couple of basically like a couple of attaboys like you just get under there and you just take it apart and then you put it back together and those guys do it all the time and so i was like yeah sure and i've done a couple of things like i tried to fix the linkage on a
01:05:02On a three-on-the-tree transmission of a 68 Chevy C10 pickup.
01:05:10And I broke the fuck out of that.
01:05:12Oh, no.
01:05:13And that was a bummer because I didn't have any money and I didn't have the sense God gave a turnip.
01:05:21And I just left that truck parked on the side of the road until the city came by and took it.
01:05:26And the problem or the advantage was I had never registered it.
01:05:31Oh, smart.
01:05:33Well, it was smart, except that the guy that I bought it from for 50 bucks ended up getting a letter from the city saying we impounded your truck.
01:05:41Oh, no.
01:05:42And then he came to me and he was like, what the hell?
01:05:45I was like, hey, man.
01:05:47Why don't you just smoke a J and chill?
01:05:49Do you think you were being a poor steward of the device?
01:05:53He thought that I was being a dumb stoner, which is what I was.
01:05:57So he wasn't wrong.
01:05:58The city wasn't wrong.
01:05:59It was me that was wrong.
01:06:01One time, I was driving in my uncle's 280 SL, also a 68, and the transmission linkage for that broke.
01:06:13And that was really bad, but it was like an old Mercedes and I climbed underneath it and I found where the linkage was because I had already, this was after I'd screwed up the linkage on that three on the tree.
01:06:27So I knew what to look for.
01:06:29You learned from your mistake.
01:06:32Even though it was easy to climb under to the Chevy, but it was really hard to get under that Mercedes because it was so low to the ground.
01:06:38I found the linkage.
01:06:40My dad was with me and I said, dad,
01:06:43Uh, do we have any duct tape?
01:06:47And lo and behold, we had duct tape.
01:06:51I don't know why.
01:06:52It's not like uncle Cal kept duct tape in the car.
01:06:55I don't remember why we had tape.
01:06:57We had some tape.
01:06:58I don't even know if it was duct tape.
01:07:01And I took the tape and I wrapped the tape around the linkage like a hundred times and
01:07:09And it held long enough to get it into gear, drive down the road, and take it to the Mercedes dealer because my uncle is the type of person that buys a brand new computer that has the power.
01:07:24And he's also the guy that takes his car to the dealer to be serviced.
01:07:27They like that, don't they?
01:07:28Yeah, they do.
01:07:29They like you to do that.
01:07:30I feel like that company in particular, they're pretty tough on you going to the shade tree mechanic down the road.
01:07:35They don't care for that.
01:07:36They don't want you to do that.
01:07:37Do they put seals on and stuff?
01:07:39Oh, they do all the time.
01:07:41Expensive seals.
01:07:42Seals that the Mercedes company still makes for their products.
01:07:45A temper-free, a temper-reduction seal, like where they could say, oh, oh, Shade Tree got on this one.
01:07:51Oh, I don't, well, they can't do that with their 1968 ones.
01:07:55Maybe.
01:07:55Oh, I take your point.
01:07:57They probably don't even make those seals anymore.
01:07:58So for once, this is going to be useful to you.
01:08:01Well, when I drove in there and I was like, the linkage needs a fix, and they got under there and saw that it was taped together with tape, I bet you they knew it wasn't done by an authorized dealer.
01:08:11The Germans don't tape stuff.
01:08:13No, they don't.
01:08:14And so it got fixed, and it went back to Uncle Cal, and Uncle Cal was just like, what's the price of doing business?
01:08:19I let my nephew drive the car, and somehow... That's sanguine.
01:08:24But with the other things I've done, like change a starter, change a water pump, change the jets in this transmission, it was always a thing where some guy with a handlebar mustache said...
01:08:38Ah, it's no problem.
01:08:39Just go ahead and do it.
01:08:41And I did it.
01:08:41I never had an impact wrench.
01:08:44I never had any of those things.
01:08:46I just got into there with my craftsman tools.
01:08:50This is a problem with expertise.
01:08:52You start out knowing nothing.
01:08:53Then you learn something.
01:08:55But it takes an additional level of expertise in order to really help somebody understand whether they could do it too.
01:09:00It takes a certain amount of self-knowledge and a certain kind of humility and generosity to know when to say to somebody from behind the counter, sure, grab your craftspersons and go just change these jets.
01:09:11Yep, yep, yep, yep.
01:09:13You can't count on people to do that.
01:09:14They're just there to move units.
01:09:15Well, one time I had a real problem.
01:09:18I couldn't get the starter to work.
01:09:19And the guy with the Jeff Skunk Baxter mustache, who used to own the auto parts store,
01:09:27in conjunction with his brother who looked like Fat Freddy Freak.
01:09:32And actually, I have to admit that the other brother with the Jeff Skunk Baxter mustache kind of looked like
01:09:39And Phineas Freak.
01:09:41Or I'm sorry.
01:09:41No, he looked like Freewheel and Franklin Freak.
01:09:43Oh, okay.
01:09:44All right.
01:09:45So Freewheel and Franklin and Fat Freddy.
01:09:47I used to go down there and talk to them all the time.
01:09:51Even if I didn't have to buy an auto part, I would just go talk to them because they knew so much.
01:09:54And they had an auto part store right in the middle of Capitol Hill that now has been converted into a hot dog restaurant where you pay like $12 for a hot dog.
01:10:03But then it was a functioning auto parts store.
01:10:05And so I went down.
01:10:06I was like, my starter's busted.
01:10:09And the guy said, I bet it's not.
01:10:12And I said, I turned the key and it won't go.
01:10:15And he said, yeah, I bet you what you need to do is clean the terminals on your battery.
01:10:21That's a twist.
01:10:23So I went and I looked at it.
01:10:25And I came back and I said, starter's busted.
01:10:29I looked at the battery and it's fine.
01:10:30And he said, here's the thing about the terminals on your battery.
01:10:33You can look at it, but that doesn't really tell you anything.
01:10:38You have to take it.
01:10:39You have to take the leads off.
01:10:41You have to scrape the terminals of the battery with some, with some, you know, uh, steel wall.
01:10:49And then you get that, you get that stuff on there.
01:10:51You get that buildup.
01:10:52You get buildup.
01:10:53That's right.
01:10:53You get plaque.
01:10:56And, uh,
01:10:58And so it should work fine after you do that.
01:11:04I bet you that's your problem.
01:11:07And so here was the real problem.
01:11:10I ignored him.
01:11:12You ignored him.
01:11:13You didn't steal wool your terminals.
01:11:16You doggedly pursued the previous venture.
01:11:19Exactly.
01:11:20So I got under the truck.
01:11:22I took the starter out and I, which was not a, not 100% hard, but it was not 100% easy.
01:11:33I took the starter down to the auto parts store.
01:11:35I said, here's the old starter and freewheeling Franklin took the starter out of my hands.
01:11:41We walked over across the auto parts store to the part that had a garage door.
01:11:46He put it on the floor and
01:11:48He put his foot on it and he took a lead, an electrical lead that he had connected to a thing and he touched it to the lead on the starter and
01:12:01And the starter went, kapow!
01:12:04And, you know, I have never seen one in action, but the starter sits there, and then it shoots this rod that has a gear on the end, like, shoots it out really hard.
01:12:17Kapow!
01:12:18And the thing spins, and it's like...
01:12:21Oh, it has nothing to slow it down.
01:12:23It's operating in the free range.
01:12:26But when your car is already running and then you can't hear it and you hit the key accidentally.
01:12:30Oh, you don't want to do that.
01:12:31You don't want to do that.
01:12:32No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:12:33Well, the reason it's doing that is this thing shoots this horse penis out.
01:12:39spinning really fast, and if it hit a thing that was already spinning... Gotta respect the horse.
01:12:44Well, it's an amazing little piece of mechanical thing.
01:12:50You don't think about it when it works.
01:12:51You don't think about it when it works.
01:12:53So then he looks at me and he's like, the starter works fine.
01:12:57It just did exactly what it's supposed to do.
01:13:00Go put this... I'm not going to sell you a new starter.
01:13:02Go put your starter back in.
01:13:03Did you clean the battery terminals?
01:13:06And I said...
01:13:09No, but I'm sure the battery's fine.
01:13:13And he said, I don't think you're listening to me.
01:13:16So I went back.
01:13:17I took the starter.
01:13:19I put it back in.
01:13:23It didn't work.
01:13:25I did not believe that the battery terminals could be the problem.
01:13:29It looked fine.
01:13:31You got a little bit of sunk cost at this point because you've put in a lot of effort into that starter solution.
01:13:38And it would, on some level, I'm just guessing, it would be kind of frustrating if it really was just a need of steel wool.
01:13:45That's right.
01:13:45Wouldn't that kind of crush you a little bit after you've done all that?
01:13:48Well, let me tell you how crushed I was.
01:13:50Oh, no.
01:13:51Because I got home, I put the thing back in, hands all covered in grease.
01:13:58Didn't work.
01:13:59Uh-huh.
01:13:59I called the auto parts store.
01:14:02Is this Freewheel and Franklin?
01:14:04Freewheel and Franklin picks up the phone.
01:14:08I said, it's me, John.
01:14:09I come in there sometimes and stand around, talk to you about things, machines and stuff.
01:14:17Uh, still can't get this thing to work.
01:14:21And he said, I'll be right over the devil.
01:14:27You say, because he had my address because I'd given him checks and stuff.
01:14:31Cause you're like a frequent flyer.
01:14:32Oh, I see.
01:14:33Because of the checks.
01:14:35This guy's putting a lot of stuff together.
01:14:38It's just an auto parts story.
01:14:39He's not a mechanic.
01:14:40I don't know, man.
01:14:41This guy, he sounds like he's operating on another level.
01:14:43He drives over to my house.
01:14:45He drives to your house.
01:14:47He gets out of his truck.
01:14:50He comes over to the Ford F-250.
01:14:53Oh, no.
01:14:53Oh, no.
01:14:54He opens the hood.
01:14:55He says...
01:14:57huh he the thing is he knew it was a chevy motor already because we'd been through this a million times was i was because i was buying parts because i was trying to figure out how to get but now you're going to be revealed to be engine fluid well and the thing is he you know he was already selling me caterpillar belts to fit onto this crazy thing so he had an idea that there was something special going on yeah he was like okay okay he pulls a wrench out of his pocket he takes the
01:15:24Lead off the battery.
01:15:26He hits it with a little steel wool thing.
01:15:29Puts it back on.
01:15:30Truck starts up.
01:15:32Truck starts up like it was off the lot.
01:15:36Just like.
01:15:37And he gave me a look.
01:15:41Which was just like.
01:15:43I hope.
01:15:45We've been through this together now.
01:15:47And I feel like my diagnostic skills are confirmed.
01:15:52That's not enough.
01:15:54Did he send this all with a glance or a noise?
01:15:56This all with a glance.
01:15:57So with a glance, okay.
01:15:58He's like, I diagnosed your problem two days ago.
01:16:02Sight unseen.
01:16:03You ignored me.
01:16:05Now we both have learned something.
01:16:06I've learned that you're an idiot, but that I'm right.
01:16:10You have learned you're an idiot.
01:16:11But he's a Christ-like character in many ways.
01:16:14And I'm like, I should pay you for your time.
01:16:16He's pointing at the footprints.
01:16:18That's right.
01:16:19He said, this is where I carried you.
01:16:20This is where I carry you.
01:16:21Yeah, Free Will and Franklin.
01:16:22And I said, well, wait a minute.
01:16:24Those look like my shoe prints.
01:16:25You're not even wearing shoes.
01:16:26And he was like, it's a technicality.
01:16:27You want to do two of these in one day?
01:16:29You want to be wrong twice?
01:16:30I got all day.
01:16:31And he got in his truck.
01:16:32He was like, I don't want your money.
01:16:33He got in his truck.
01:16:34He went back to his auto parts store where he went back behind the counter and solved other people's problems.
01:16:38Franklin of Nazareth.
01:16:40Jesus Christ.
01:16:40And these are the people that we lost...
01:16:42Because they couldn't afford to live up there anymore.
01:16:45People didn't have cars anymore.
01:16:47They were all on Segways.
01:16:48And so they turned it into a hot dog stand.
01:16:50And these two guys, I don't know where they're living now.
01:16:53I mean, they weren't old enough to stop.
01:16:55They're probably building Harley-Davidson somewhere.
01:16:58Oh, I hope so.
01:16:59I hope they're doing something they enjoy.
01:17:00I hope they're helping people.
01:17:02Well, Adam Pranica did this to me.
01:17:03He was like, I'm not going to fix your lawnmower.
01:17:06So I went.
01:17:07It turns out the jets were fine.
01:17:10Did you try cleaning the battery terminals?
01:17:12I did all that.
01:17:14And the thing is, I've learned, right?
01:17:16I took the spark plug out and looked at it.
01:17:18I took everything apart while I was in there.
01:17:20It all looked fine.
01:17:21So I put it back together.
01:17:22Guess what?
01:17:22It ran fine.
01:17:24All it wanted was to be taken apart and put back together.
01:17:27Oh, you know, that's so much like the UFOs.
01:17:30You just did an UFO on there, right?
01:17:32You just did the transport repair protocol.
01:17:35Transfer repair protocol.
01:17:38You take it down to nothing, right?
01:17:41Greenfield, you come right back up.
01:17:42Now everything's working.
01:17:43It just needed a little reset.
01:17:46Yeah, TTP protocol.
01:17:47Now, a lot of times old stuff breaks because there's a seal, a secret seal you didn't know about that was actually holding the whole thing together, like Greg Brady's sedan.
01:17:54You know, the rust is all holding it together.
01:17:56But in this case, no, it was the corollary.
01:17:59It just needed to be taken apart and put back together.
01:18:02That's what Adam said.
01:18:03He was like, sometimes you just take it apart and put it back together.
01:18:05Is that what he said after the fact?
01:18:06Yeah, he said it after the fact.
01:18:08Thanks, buddy.
01:18:08Super helpful.
01:18:08And I was like, all right.
01:18:10So then a lot more worked fine.
01:18:11I got to reconnect with Adam.
01:18:12I don't know what's happening to this kid.
01:18:15The last time I turned the lawnmower on, it started to do this.
01:18:21You think the carburation's too rich?
01:18:23I think there's something like that.
01:18:24I think it is.
01:18:25I think the jets... Something to do with the jets.
01:18:28You know, it's like...
01:18:30i don't know it's benny in the jets yeah it's uh you don't you know when you're jet you're always a jet from your first cigarette to your last dying day let me let me try and um just to explore a little more do you have a sense as much as you can say for infosec and opsec reasons what are the nature of the files that are on the anna banana computer that need to make it over onto the jason finn computer
01:18:50is it the kind of thing that you could just is that a lot of stuff is it something you could put on a flash drive and just bring over are you looking for some kind of automation to ensure that the tiniest little dot file makes it over or is it really just a bunch of porn or something something you could put not porn but anything that could be mp3s you put that onto the dingus for the usb thing you pull it over and you don't have to worry so much about friend mode is that is that is that a thing you could try
01:19:14Well, first of all, the Jason Finn computer just popped up a thing that says update Apple ID settings.
01:19:20Some services will not be available until you sign in again.
01:19:23And then it offers me view.
01:19:26I can click view.
01:19:27I can't click.
01:19:28Who's asking for what for what reason?
01:19:30What even does that mean?
01:19:32Well, I have to click view because it's telling me to.
01:19:35It's modal.
01:19:36system preferences is bringing up anyway here we go it you know people give me usbs all the time i almost never plug them in that's good that's that's a best practice yeah i don't know what the hell they're trying i know from tv that that's how they get you you leave one of those in a parking lot where somebody's coming out with their grocery cart they pick it up they put it in now they're hacked
01:19:55Yeah, right.
01:19:55I don't want to get hacked.
01:19:57You lived through the 80s.
01:19:58You know enough to put your USB into every port that comes along.
01:20:01Yeah, any old port in a storm.
01:20:03That's right.
01:20:03Update Apple ID settings.
01:20:05No, no, no.
01:20:06How many files are we talking about?
01:20:07Orders of magnitude.
01:20:08How many files on a banana computer are we talking about?
01:20:11Orders of magnitude.
01:20:12Ten hundred thousand.
01:20:12How many are we talking about?
01:20:13Ten hundred thousand.
01:20:14Ten hundred thousand files could easily fit on a USB.
01:20:17So I should do that.
01:20:19That didn't occur to me to do.
01:20:20Well, it's a non-standard approach, but if it's mostly in a couple folders, you might could try that and just see how it goes.
01:20:29I think that that is a good idea.
01:20:32You know, what it is, is it's a lot of... It's a lot like cleaning the terminals, if you're honest.
01:20:36Here's what it is.
01:20:37It's a lot of... Wait a minute.
01:20:38Now, I just signed in, and why does it still have a... Oh, no, John, you're going to get hacked.
01:20:42Don't sign in.
01:20:43Don't sign in.
01:20:43Password to unlock this Mac.
01:20:45Okay, that's a different one.
01:20:51All right.
01:20:53All right.
01:20:54And you're sure it's a Mac thing?
01:20:59Well, the Apple is telling me.
01:21:01Well, it looks like it.
01:21:02Well, now it's saying update, but now it's not.
01:21:04Have you been sticking any USBs in your port you don't know about?
01:21:06Have you been shopping and picking up USBs?
01:21:09You might have a virus worm or something like that.
01:21:13Do you think that's a virus worm that's doing this?
01:21:15I don't know.
01:21:15I have no way of knowing.
01:21:16It could be malware.
01:21:18You could pick it up at the mall.
01:21:20Oh, wait.
01:21:20But it went away.
01:21:21It figured itself out.
01:21:23Would you consider trying this?
01:21:24You get a USB.
01:21:25They make them real big now, John.
01:21:26You can get a real big USB.
01:21:27Oh, I have a million of them.
01:21:28I got them lying all over here.
01:21:29Do you know if they're clean?
01:21:30I don't know.
01:21:32Dave Bazan gave me one that had some songs on it.
01:21:35Jonathan Colton gives them to me all the time that looked like him.
01:21:37Was it shaped like anything?
01:21:39Or did it look like Jonathan?
01:21:41He's got a bespoke USB that looks like him.
01:21:43He does.
01:21:44Dave Bazan, I think, oh, well, Eric Anderson.
01:21:46His looks like a red sweatshirt.
01:21:47It does.
01:21:48Eric Anderson gave me one that looks like a Swiss Army knife.
01:21:52All right.
01:21:53Anyway, that's a good idea.
01:21:54What it usually is is it's garage band things.
01:21:59You got your dot bands.
01:22:01I got dot bands.
01:22:02A dot band has many, many files inside of it.
01:22:06It's really super interesting.
01:22:07If you control click on a dot band file and it opens up, you know what it is?
01:22:12It's just a bunch of folders with other stuff in it.
01:22:14You can see your files.
01:22:15You can see the actual audio files.
01:22:17It's pretty cool.
01:22:18It's got WAVs.
01:22:20It's got WAVs, too.
01:22:20WAVs is a high-quality format.
01:22:24So it's got WAVs.
01:22:25It's got data.
01:22:26Okay, so you're looking to move some music around.
01:22:28Yeah, moving music.
01:22:30Oh, I think there's a very high chance that this could at least save some of your stuff from the Anna Banana computer.
01:22:35You think it will be... I'm not saying to stop exploring friend mode.
01:22:38I'm not saying to stop that.
01:22:39I'm saying this is called parallel processing.
01:22:42In this case, you try something else at the same time that you get in the Anna Banana computer to go into friend mode because you want it to be upgradable in the future.
01:22:49Is that what parallel processing is?
01:22:50I think so.
01:22:51Yeah, it's pulling things onto a USB drive.
01:22:54You know what I mean?
01:22:54It's like grating the cheese while you're boiling the water.
01:22:56You try to do two things.
01:22:57There's no such thing as multitasking.
01:23:00No, no.
01:23:01We had that conversation today because Marlo's mom wanted to walk to school with us.
01:23:08And we usually walk to school by ourselves.
01:23:11And it's sometimes frustrating.
01:23:12I know about that.
01:23:13You got your own way of doing things.
01:23:14Yeah, it's frustrating because the next door neighbor girl, Kayla, her dad drives her to school in the minivans.
01:23:20And we live, you know, she lives right across the street.
01:23:24So, so my little girl says, why do we have to walk when Kayla drives?
01:23:30And I said, the thing is that walking is the superior format.
01:23:34You could have just said, because this is what we do.
01:23:36Well, I think you'd like to explain a little bit.
01:23:38I was like, I was like, we are people who walk.
01:23:42That's right.
01:23:42Kayla's trip to school is an MP3.
01:23:45Our trip to school is a WAV.
01:23:48Mm-hmm.
01:23:48I totally agree.
01:23:49It's so important.
01:23:49And we do, we got a whole workflow.
01:23:51Like when we go to here, we make a remark about how it smells.
01:23:54You walk past the second, actually the house next to where Ling used to live.
01:23:57You can see there's a cat in the window and we say hello to the cat.
01:24:00There's a workflow to this.
01:24:01I pick up the rubber bands by the mailbox.
01:24:02There's a certain way you do this.
01:24:03Guess what?
01:24:04Guess what you don't get in a minivan?
01:24:06Any of that.
01:24:06Any of that.
01:24:07No smell, no cat, no Ling, no Ling Ling.
01:24:09No, no, no rubber band, no nothing.
01:24:11Sometimes we meet Flo, who's out for her morning constitutional.
01:24:15You're not going to meet Flo if you're in the minivan.
01:24:19A lot of things you're not going to get.
01:24:20What are you going to do, wave?
01:24:22Anyway, this morning, her mom wanted to walk with us.
01:24:26She said, I don't have a meeting this morning.
01:24:28Why don't I walk to school with you?
01:24:31And the little baby in this story said, no.
01:24:36And I was like, what's that supposed to mean?
01:24:38And she was like, well, it's not... She just... That's not what we do.
01:24:41You don't walk to school with us, Mama.
01:24:44It's just us.
01:24:44And I was like, guess who's coming to school with us this morning?
01:24:47That Mama, because that's not how we... We don't treat people that way.
01:24:52This is a minivan.
01:24:53This is just... This is a little family walking together.
01:24:56This is what we do.
01:24:57That's right.
01:24:57We walk together.
01:24:58So we're walking to school.
01:24:59This is this.
01:25:01And she is...
01:25:03She's telling me a story.
01:25:05She's explaining to me something about how Tintin took a rocket ship to the moon.
01:25:16And I'm listening.
01:25:17I'm listening to the story.
01:25:19And her mom pulls out her phone and starts looking at it as we're walking.
01:25:25Oh, no.
01:25:25And so we get about halfway into the story about how Tintin went to the moon.
01:25:30Mom's looking at her phone.
01:25:33We're walking down a little path that's got fallen leaves, a little brisk morning path.
01:25:40And Marla says, I don't think that mom is listening to this story.
01:25:52And I said, well, your mom is multitasking.
01:25:58And her mom said, that's right.
01:26:00I'm multitasking.
01:26:02And guess who doesn't think multitasking is a thing?
01:26:05Mm-hmm.
01:26:07You guessed it.
01:26:09Papa John.
01:26:10You know Papa John thinks multitasking is a thing.
01:26:13Oh, incidentally, I was at a party the other day, kind of a corporate event, and they had a bunch of pizza there that was the worst pizza I had ever had in my whole life.
01:26:22Don't say it.
01:26:22I was like, this pizza is so disgusting.
01:26:25I will eat any pizza.
01:26:26I will eat lunchroom pizza.
01:26:28I will eat truck stop pizza.
01:26:29Don't say it.
01:26:29I will eat any kind of pizza.
01:26:31This pizza is – it's like I'm sucking on a battery.
01:26:34It's like Szechuan pizza except it's not spicy.
01:26:37It's giving me that taste around the corner of my mouth that's like I'm sucking on a copper ball.
01:26:44I don't want this pizza.
01:26:46I want not this pizza.
01:26:48Oh, God, no.
01:26:49Was it Papa John's?
01:26:50And then I went over and I looked at it.
01:26:51It was Papa John's.
01:26:52Oh, God.
01:26:53Did they still give you that jizz sauce with it?
01:26:55They still give you a little cup of jizz with it?
01:26:56I have no idea.
01:26:57I would never have bought this.
01:26:58You know, the Maga Bomber, the stripper down in Miami, he used to deliver for Papa John's.
01:27:03He's a big fan of Papa John's.
01:27:04He would take photos of all the Papa John's boxes because he was so proud of Maga Pizza.
01:27:08Really?
01:27:08Oh, yeah.
01:27:09These people, they're monsters.
01:27:10They have no taste.
01:27:11It is garbage.
01:27:12It's like, I mean, I know this is an old joke, but they just put sauce on one of the boxes.
01:27:16It's really bad.
01:27:18It's so bad.
01:27:19I don't want to be whatever I'm being, because sometimes maybe that's all that's available.
01:27:24Right?
01:27:25Like, you know, you make fun of an Applebee's or a Ruby Tuesday's or an Olive Garden.
01:27:28Hey, Applebee's is not bad.
01:27:31Ruby Tuesday's has got great rib tips.
01:27:35I'm sure I told you the time we were in Alabama, Alabama, Tuscaloosa or whatever, and we were driving through and it was Sunday night and everything was closed.
01:27:48The gas stations were closed.
01:27:49They turned the streetlights off because it was Sunday and it was late at night and we were all starving and we had so many miles to go before we could sleep.
01:27:59Oh, and we were just driving around.
01:28:00They closed the McDonald's.
01:28:02They closed everything because I don't know, because Jesus or because who knows, maybe they're rationing electricity.
01:28:10And I'm like, sorry, dudes, I don't even think we can.
01:28:13We can't.
01:28:13We're down.
01:28:14We're done.
01:28:14We're going to die here.
01:28:16And we came around a corner.
01:28:19And there was a Ruby Tuesdays.
01:28:22Ruby Tuesdays.
01:28:23And I had never been into a Ruby Tuesday.
01:28:25Is it freestanding or part of a mall?
01:28:26No, it was freestanding.
01:28:28It was freestanding Ruby Tuesdays out by the highway.
01:28:31Oh, my God.
01:28:31And it was, I think, like really near to Louisiana.
01:28:37And I said, Ruby Tuesdays is open.
01:28:40Ruby Tuesdays.
01:28:41Oh, my God.
01:28:42Nobody in the van complained.
01:28:43That'll get your mind right.
01:28:45Because if I were to know you, you also haven't let them pee in a real long time.
01:28:48No, no, no.
01:28:49I haven't.
01:28:50I wouldn't pull over to get Wi-Fi or Wi-Fi or anything.
01:28:53I was just, come on, let's go.
01:28:54We can do this.
01:28:55So we pull into the Ruby Tuesdays.
01:28:57We pile out.
01:28:59We open up that front door and walk into the antechamber.
01:29:04Uh-huh.
01:29:06And Ruby Tuesdays is hopping.
01:29:09Hopping.
01:29:10And some like spunky little gal is like, hi, welcome to Ruby Tuesdays.
01:29:16You know, come on in.
01:29:17This is fucking Brigadoon.
01:29:18And we're looking around.
01:29:20Every table is taken.
01:29:22People are laughing.
01:29:24It's bright.
01:29:24The music's jamming.
01:29:26People are hustling.
01:29:27Waitresses and waiters are hustling past.
01:29:31And they're playing some jamming tunes.
01:29:32Right.
01:29:33And our spunky little gal seats us at a comfortable-sized table.
01:29:38Oh, man.
01:29:39And then a different person full of spunk comes over and is like, hi, welcome to Ruby Tuesdays.
01:29:43Can I take your order?
01:29:43And I was like, give me the whole thing, the platter, the big old Ruby Tuesdays special platter.
01:29:50Oh, you get a flight.
01:29:51Or like a sampler, like you get the tips and the tots and all this stuff?
01:29:56I want the tips.
01:29:57I want cornbread.
01:29:58I want black-eyed peas.
01:30:00I didn't even know you had this stuff.
01:30:02A Ruby Tuesdays, I thought it was some kind of spaghetti place.
01:30:06But it had everything.
01:30:07It had a menu that was 40 pages long.
01:30:09God, I love a story like that.
01:30:10And that food showed up.
01:30:12It's the best food.
01:30:13You've totally realigned your expectations at this point.
01:30:15I was like, this Ruby Tuesdays is the greatest place I've ever been.
01:30:19And we had, oh, and we were having fun.
01:30:21We were laughing with the people at the tables around us.
01:30:24We ate all these foods.
01:30:28And I was like, give me more Arnold Palmer.
01:30:29And they were like, Arnold Palmer coming up.
01:30:31Oh, man.
01:30:33Serving you Arnold Palmer out of a pitcher.
01:30:35That's the kind of place.
01:30:36They knew people were going to want it.
01:30:38Yeah, they were like, we make Arnold Palmer's back there.
01:30:40We got a space.
01:30:41This restaurant's so big, we got a space to put a pitcher of Arnold Palmer.
01:30:44A dedicated bespoke Palmer pitcher filler.
01:30:47A Palmer pitcher, probably.
01:30:49And I said, you know what?
01:30:51I had a snobby attitude about Ruby Tuesdays.
01:30:53And that snobby attitude probably extends to other things, including the state of Alabama and probably Louisiana.
01:31:01And I've changed my whole story now.
01:31:02That's all it takes.
01:31:03All it takes is one little brigadoon and everything changes.
01:31:05These people in here are having the times of their lives.
01:31:08Greatest people.
01:31:08The greatest people.
01:31:10And I don't know how they vote politically.
01:31:11And I don't know whether or not they believe in global warming.
01:31:13But it doesn't matter tonight because we are having ribs.
01:31:17Don't blame me.
01:31:17I voted for rib tips.
01:31:19So that solves that problem for me.
01:31:25But I recognize that you can't multitask.
01:31:27I think I'm going to do this.
01:31:28I'm going to find one of these dongles.
01:31:29I'm going to hope it doesn't have a virus on it.
01:31:33A virus worm.
01:31:35Probably doesn't.
01:31:36They're probably fine.
01:31:37It's probably fine.
01:31:38I think Jonathan probably uses Windows, so you're probably good.
01:31:42I'm going to put some stuff on there.
01:31:44Mm-hmm.
01:31:44I'm going to schlep it over.
01:31:46Try it.
01:31:46Try it.
01:31:47Do a test run.
01:31:47Just try a test run.
01:31:48But what I'm worried about now is that the Goog is going to get me up to a thing, and then they're going to be like, oh, now you've got to upgrade.
01:31:55Oh, here we go.
01:31:57Click your desired eel.
01:31:59You said that you wanted us to put all this stuff on, and we did.
01:32:03So it just took up 100 gigawatts.
01:32:07And you need to.
01:32:08You need the 50-chigger bite program.
01:32:10You need to now pay us.
01:32:13Mm-hmm.
01:32:13$30 a month.
01:32:14Do you do that in Bitcoin, John?
01:32:16How do you do that?
01:32:17Okay, now here's a question.
01:32:18I've got two computers now.
01:32:20Can I have them mining Bitcoins?
01:32:22Revenue stream, yes, I think so.
01:32:24It'll be super slow, but you'll eventually get a coin, I think.
01:32:27Can I have the Anna Banana computer just running for Bitcoins on the side?
01:32:31Shit dog, it's your computer.
01:32:32You can have it mine rib tips.
01:32:35What if I get the big quad core quad?
01:32:38Uh-huh, uh-huh.
01:32:39And then I keep these two like in a different room, put them up on a rack, put them on a rack and they have, and I'll put things on the screen that look like it's like computing some big time, like all like flashing green lights and numbers flying around.
01:32:53Numbers flying and stuff where it's just like, so if anybody peers in that room, they're like, what the,
01:32:57fuck is going on in there it's like don't look at he's mining coin but then like running behind it it'll be like running coin yeah running coin your electric bill will go up substantially but you know but you might get a coin out of it what if i get a coin i could i could have bought i could that could pay for the new computer you could reinvest it man i'm glad you got all that worked out
01:33:25Me too.
01:33:25Thank God.
01:33:26Well, I, you know, thank you for your help.
01:33:28I just, I'll do anything I can to help.
01:33:30I'm just, you can talk about Anna Banana sometime.

Ep. 311: “Friend Mode”

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